The military is about 50 years more advanced than the civilian release of the technology they control and the civilian roll out directly correlates with mass surveillance of the technology.
Since the answers are so big, start it as a list of collapsed steps with labels so we only see the details if we expand it. It would be much faster to get to what we're interested in seeing.
You gotta try the problem for yourself to understand how impressive this is. I have been thinking about it for like 20 minutes and gave up. Maybe I’m just dumb lol
math major graduate here, let x be the prince's current age and y be the princess' current age. First, we know the princess is older than the prince, since the prince 'will be' as old as she is now at some point given the conditions. So we have: (x+y)/2 is half the sum of their present ages, when the princess was that age the prince was y-x years younger, and we want twice the age of the prince when she was half the sum of their present ages, so thats 2((x+y)/2 - (y-x)). When the princess is that age, the prince will be again y-x years younger, so he will be 2((x+y)/2 - (y-x)) - (y-x), which is how old the princess is now. So the full equation is 2((x+y)/2 - (y-x)) - (y-x) = y. We solve this equation, first distribute the negative signs to get 2((x+y)/2 - y + x) - y + x = y, distribute the 2 to get x + y - 2y + 2x - y + x = y, combine terms to get 4x - 2y = y, add 2y on both sides to get 4x = 3y, divide both sides by 4 to get x = (3/4)y where x,y ∈ Z+. ...however (x+y)/2 ∈ Z+ too since that must be a valid age, so x+y must be even, so either x,y are both even or x,y are both odd. Let's assume x,y are both odd, then we have 4x = 3y, but we arrive at a contradiction, since the left side is even (even times odd is always even) and the right side is odd (odd times odd is always odd), hence x,y are both even. Therefore we know x = (3/4)y where x,y ∈ Z+ and x,y are even. Since we must divide y by 4 and get an even integer x, y must have factors 4 and 2, hence y is a multiple of 8. Finally we arrive at our solution of y = 8n and so x = (3/4)y = 6n where n ∈ Z+. Interestingly enough the trivial solution of both of them being zero years old is in the solution space. Also practically n should be less or equal to 15 considering human lifespans. o1 got this right, though I don't like its proof.
It is quite difficult, I would say it is easily an exam problem at a university level math course. Solvable for a math major, but requires significant effort.
Let's say Q represents age of the princess and K represents the age of the prince For "the princess is as old as the prince will be", that can be represented by Q(present) = K(at time 2) For "when the princess was twice as old as the prince was", that can be represented by Q(at time 2) = 2 * K(at time 1) For "when the princess's age was half the sum of their present age", that can be represented by Q(at time 1) = (Q(present)+K(present))/2 I think the main thing you have to realize is that the difference between the prince and the princess remains the same throughout the different stages. So, then Q(present) - K(present) = Q(at time 2) - K(at time 2) = Q(at time 1) - K(at time 1). Using those you can solve for the different variables in a variety of ways. i solved for k1 and k2 and then was able to come up with the 6 and 8 possible solution
It took me an hour to solve it myself, maybe because I am not a native english speaker and i gave my soul to understand the question, the translators doesnt work well on this complex question (that makes the question really hard xd). I am assuming it solved the question faster than every human being in the world anyways.
I know a lot of people (engineers, math majors, or people preparing for competitive examinations) who could solve this under 5 minutes. I have mentioned, the solution in a previous comment, this could be done in 2 minutes if you are good with algebra.
For anyone about to ask why it's so "slow": It's slow because it's very new technology. AI in the past never actually "thought" or "reasoned". It was just predicting the answer based on its data, so if you asked a question that was never asked before, it may not get it right. GPT-4o did have some minor capabilities with this, as it could "work" and code an algorithm to solve certain types of problems. But GPT-o1 is actually reasoning and not just predicting. Which makes the capabilities even larger. Yet it's a very new technology that has never yet been seen before, so of course it's going to be slow. But you can expect it to get faster in the future, of course ;) And keep in mind that it's still very fast compared to the average human :P
I don't seem to quite understand, what differentiates it from regular chain of thought though? Did they figure out how to use more compute per token or something? From what I've seen in the news blog its just a hidden chain of thought. Its not super clear what part of it is reasoning.
It’s not AGI, but it’s closer than we’ve ever been, and that’s saying everything. I predict a few more months and boom, we’ll have it. People don’t understand how fast things are progressing 🤯
I find it interesting that in this specific comment section people seem more impressed and not scared compared to the videos about it generating a game. The comments in there is filled with anxiety-boosted wannabe programmers telling every junior-engineer they are no longer needed and doomed. I like this comment section alot more because, well, you seem more level-headed and quite frankly, smarter than those in that commentsection 😄
To solve this, work backwards. Start at the end of the sentence and define your variables+equations They all simplify and the answer falls out. It's incredible this model can do it but like I'm sure cg4 with a push can do it too
@@AncientPrayers This applies only if this problem has never been publicly solved or talked about in YT videos / on twitter. Do you think that is the case?
@@flutteredlearning yeah, i dont trust this presentation, this problem is already contaminated to begin with. i will see this AI models performance on SIMPLE Bench to see the real result
It unnecessarily complicated the solution. I solved it in under 2 minutes. The essence is that the difference of ages prince and princess would be the same in the two scenarios. Assume princess age to be x and prince age to be y. Hence, we get the equation x - y/2 = y - (x + y)/2. Solving this, we get the ratio of x : y = 4 : 3, which is the correct answer.
i don't know how to say this politely but this is a problem a 9th grader can solve. You have to set up the equations and it works. I can for sure do it on par with the system and the solution is barely 4 lines
I think the better question is to ask this: consider the number of resources that went into creating this model. The entire thing. GPUS, datacenters, electricity, manpower. Now get a group of 3 highschoolers together in math class, watch them come up with a solution (slower), and tell me this is that impressive.
@@flutteredlearning Good point. But think about the scale: deploy this model across the whole world. How many problems can it solve over time? compare it to how many problems a group of high schoolers can solve over the same time.
@@adityakhanna113 @ I don't know how to say this politely, but you need to get out and explore the world more and talk to the majority of people in the world - in 3rd world and developing countries. You're so very smart, but ironically you used 4o thinking instead of o1 and didn't actually answer the question 🤣
@@ShpanMan Bro, respectfully... In my country this is 100% of 2nd graders. The point of the demo is that previous AI can do basic: 'If I have 4 strawberries and...' for something outside of it's training data, but once the loops became convoluted/nested etc, LLMs had a difficult time, even with scratchpad memory. Being able to do this effectively is a big deal, although I have yet to like this new model, it seems to come up short in other areas, and most of what it does is just giving you a loading banner for stuff that 4 was doing in the background anyway...
Sam Altman was acting pretty tense lately when people asking for voice mode. it's all on OpenAI man, you're being absolutely opaque about something you got us excited about. we would stop asking if you would start explaining what's up with it. was it just a bluff? are you waiting for us to forget about it?
Given the context it clearly means the sum of the ages of the prince and princess at the present time. Those are the only two integers that apply given the specified time, and it's asking for the sum. Maybe they should have said "ages" but I think that's a linguistic edge case and the model was able to figure it out anyway.
@@cajbajthewhite4889 When performing math, you don't make assumptions without stating them upfront. That's a reasonable assumption, but it should state it explicitly or ask for clarification before spitting out an answer.
@@cajbajthewhite4889 Also, I haven't worked it out yet, but just glancing at it, this looks like a basic Algebra level 1 system of equations that it has grossly overcomplicated.
It's slow because it's very new technology. AI in the past never actually "thought" or "reasoned". It was just predicting the answer based on its data, so if you asked a question that was never asked before, it may not get it right. GPT-4o did have some minor capabilities with this, as it could "work" and code an algorithm to solve certain types of problems. But GPT-o1 is actually reasoning and not just predicting. Which makes the capabilities even larger. Yet it's a very new technology that has never yet been seen before, so of course it's going to be slow. But you can expect it to get faster in the future, of course ;)
It's slow because it is generating 100's of different ideas in the background before choosing the right one. Faster than a human can write all of that reasoning up into a report.
This is not reasoning, llm are never made to reasoning. Its scraping data, labeling into model, and showing where the problem already solved into sets of words.
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!
If they are selling this type of technology, imagine what they are working on now
Yup! I would give anything to be able to work with the new systems !✨
maybe some tech that can invent new AI xD Terminator coming soon!
The military is about 50 years more advanced than the civilian release of the technology they control and the civilian roll out directly correlates with mass surveillance of the technology.
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Right ✅️ 😮
you put us on hold again for the new sound mode.
Yeah wtf, idk why I keep subscribing they promised it ages ago ...
I think it's because of the legal issues with Scarlett Johansson
I hate to say this but, They will never release it bro! Caz it’s against privacy policy, anyone can use this to do bad things , including the API
@@ababiya_worku Maybe they gave up as you said, they don't give much explanation, we don't know.
Since the answers are so big, start it as a list of collapsed steps with labels so we only see the details if we expand it. It would be much faster to get to what we're interested in seeing.
The response is being streamed so we'd have to wait as long anyway
@@happyjohn1656 I mean faster to read the response after it's done
@@mfpears ohhh
lazy ass future kids not showing any interest for the process, just results. bravo
Still waiting on 4o voice mode...
You gotta try the problem for yourself to understand how impressive this is. I have been thinking about it for like 20 minutes and gave up. Maybe I’m just dumb lol
math major graduate here, let x be the prince's current age and y be the princess' current age. First, we know the princess is older than the prince, since the prince 'will be' as old as she is now at some point given the conditions.
So we have: (x+y)/2 is half the sum of their present ages, when the princess was that age the prince was y-x years younger, and we want twice the age of the prince when she was half the sum of their present ages, so thats 2((x+y)/2 - (y-x)). When the princess is that age, the prince will be again y-x years younger, so he will be 2((x+y)/2 - (y-x)) - (y-x), which is how old the princess is now. So the full equation is 2((x+y)/2 - (y-x)) - (y-x) = y. We solve this equation, first distribute the negative signs to get 2((x+y)/2 - y + x) - y + x = y, distribute the 2 to get x + y - 2y + 2x - y + x = y, combine terms to get 4x - 2y = y, add 2y on both sides to get 4x = 3y, divide both sides by 4 to get x = (3/4)y where x,y ∈ Z+.
...however (x+y)/2 ∈ Z+ too since that must be a valid age, so x+y must be even, so either x,y are both even or x,y are both odd. Let's assume x,y are both odd, then we have 4x = 3y, but we arrive at a contradiction, since the left side is even (even times odd is always even) and the right side is odd (odd times odd is always odd), hence x,y are both even. Therefore we know x = (3/4)y where x,y ∈ Z+ and x,y are even. Since we must divide y by 4 and get an even integer x, y must have factors 4 and 2, hence y is a multiple of 8. Finally we arrive at our solution of y = 8n and so x = (3/4)y = 6n where n ∈ Z+.
Interestingly enough the trivial solution of both of them being zero years old is in the solution space. Also practically n should be less or equal to 15 considering human lifespans.
o1 got this right, though I don't like its proof.
It is quite difficult, I would say it is easily an exam problem at a university level math course. Solvable for a math major, but requires significant effort.
No, you are Nerd enough to think 20 minutes!
university level math course maybe for history majors
Let's say Q represents age of the princess and K represents the age of the prince
For "the princess is as old as the prince will be", that can be represented by
Q(present) = K(at time 2)
For "when the princess was twice as old as the prince was", that can be represented by
Q(at time 2) = 2 * K(at time 1)
For "when the princess's age was half the sum of their present age", that can be represented by
Q(at time 1) = (Q(present)+K(present))/2
I think the main thing you have to realize is that the difference between the prince and the princess remains the same throughout the different stages.
So, then Q(present) - K(present) = Q(at time 2) - K(at time 2) = Q(at time 1) - K(at time 1).
Using those you can solve for the different variables in a variety of ways. i solved for k1 and k2 and then was able to come up with the 6 and 8 possible solution
ai really is the future
😂happening now
AI is the present.
It has come
Calling everything AI is the future.
Good, human slavery ends soon
It'll be a different day when these systems can reliably do math, that day is a lot sooner then I thought.
It took me an hour to solve it myself, maybe because I am not a native english speaker and i gave my soul to understand the question, the translators doesnt work well on this complex question (that makes the question really hard xd). I am assuming it solved the question faster than every human being in the world anyways.
I know a lot of people (engineers, math majors, or people preparing for competitive examinations) who could solve this under 5 minutes. I have mentioned, the solution in a previous comment, this could be done in 2 minutes if you are good with algebra.
@@richikdadhich733 well , it solved faster than 2 minutes so this means am i still right ?
@@dorukilhan4329 the last part of your original statement is not correct.
@@richikdadhich733Unlikely there’s anyone solving it at this speed.
Graphical solution is the easiest one!
For anyone about to ask why it's so "slow":
It's slow because it's very new technology. AI in the past never actually "thought" or "reasoned". It was just predicting the answer based on its data, so if you asked a question that was never asked before, it may not get it right.
GPT-4o did have some minor capabilities with this, as it could "work" and code an algorithm to solve certain types of problems.
But GPT-o1 is actually reasoning and not just predicting. Which makes the capabilities even larger. Yet it's a very new technology that has never yet been seen before, so of course it's going to be slow. But you can expect it to get faster in the future, of course ;)
And keep in mind that it's still very fast compared to the average human :P
I don't seem to quite understand, what differentiates it from regular chain of thought though? Did they figure out how to use more compute per token or something? From what I've seen in the news blog its just a hidden chain of thought. Its not super clear what part of it is reasoning.
@@kingfirebone2000 more compute on inference
Do you mean to tell that it like AGI than ai
@@kshitijbhattarai9887 It's not AGI ...yet
It’s not AGI, but it’s closer than we’ve ever been, and that’s saying everything. I predict a few more months and boom, we’ll have it. People don’t understand how fast things are progressing 🤯
I was so hoping for them to eventually have come of age.
we are reaching the event horizon
The military already has. The civilian population hasn't yet.
OpenAI regains its crown!
You need to write down four equations with five unknowns. You can then simplify them down to 3x = 4y (if x is the current princess's age).
I find it interesting that in this specific comment section people seem more impressed and not scared compared to the videos about it generating a game. The comments in there is filled with anxiety-boosted wannabe programmers telling every junior-engineer they are no longer needed and doomed. I like this comment section alot more because, well, you seem more level-headed and quite frankly, smarter than those in that commentsection 😄
Where is Sora? Voice?
To solve this, work backwards. Start at the end of the sentence and define your variables+equations
They all simplify and the answer falls out. It's incredible this model can do it but like I'm sure cg4 with a push can do it too
1:48 Aw man! I was just going to say that!
This system hopefully will be implemented in all hospitals accross north America and the EU
OMG THE DISTOPYAN CYBERBIOPUNK FUTURE IS REAL
I watched all o-1 videos, still confuse why they keep coming to the same sofa
bc where they live its all matrix, we just get some demo Ai versions to test our reactions how we adapt to technology
this goes crazy in middle school math club
Also how do we know this problem wasn't in the training set? If chatgpt is trained on everything
Because it provided a detailed step by step how it arrived to the solution. It actually thought about it.
@@AncientPrayers This applies only if this problem has never been publicly solved or talked about in YT videos / on twitter. Do you think that is the case?
@@flutteredlearning yeah, i dont trust this presentation, this problem is already contaminated to begin with. i will see this AI models performance on SIMPLE Bench to see the real result
@@CoolIcingcake3467well you got that lol
are wee finally going to get some good Riddler stories in Batman comics😮
This is really awesome, but still waiting for the live vision and voice features you teased a couple months ago
You’ve been told when to expect it. Calm down.
I think that 4k for Princess and 3k for Prince where k is a natural number is the correct answer
There's another number in the problem that must be an integer, which is why o1 says 8k and 6k. (i.e. 4k and 3k with k being even) I missed this too.
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or he may not, who knows.
Ok yeah I get it, it's smart, geez. Just rip off the band-aid and release AGI already so I can stop wondering whether I'll still have a job
This is gona replace thinkers
Next video could be totally done with a stable AI animation.
What grade math is this? Seems like quite the high level algebra...
It unnecessarily complicated the solution. I solved it in under 2 minutes. The essence is that the difference of ages prince and princess would be the same in the two scenarios. Assume princess age to be x and prince age to be y. Hence, we get the equation x - y/2 = y - (x + y)/2. Solving this, we get the ratio of x : y = 4 : 3, which is the correct answer.
Not bad, it took me like 30 minutes to come up with it...
Your equation is giving a 2 : 3 = x : y ratio tho
It's just a simple system of equations, nothing crazy. CHatgpt does way more complicated math I dont know why they dont show case that.
Nobody cares what you solved in 2 minutes. You’re not an LLM.
I think things will start to become Crazy in in the 2030s
try 2025
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Is O1 giving the correct answer here? I get the princess age to be 1.4 times of prince
I may each month, and yet I still don't have advanced voice mode.
can it spell Strawberry? Show us
They did. Check the other videos. (ChatGPT 1o Reasoning Counting)
I couldnt solve the problem . ITs difficult.
Now I really feel like 'dumb' or like a 'chimpanzee' in front of that A.I.
It's a well known problem that's in the training data set.
i just asked this model to word count its response and it got it wrong..
Shouldn't it read "their present ages", and not "present age"... ?
How many 'r's are in strawberry?
Money is going to go away
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What percent of humans can solve this? And no human can solve it this quickly, or write out the solution this quickly.
i don't know how to say this politely but this is a problem a 9th grader can solve. You have to set up the equations and it works. I can for sure do it on par with the system and the solution is barely 4 lines
I think the better question is to ask this: consider the number of resources that went into creating this model. The entire thing. GPUS, datacenters, electricity, manpower. Now get a group of 3 highschoolers together in math class, watch them come up with a solution (slower), and tell me this is that impressive.
@@flutteredlearning Good point. But think about the scale: deploy this model across the whole world. How many problems can it solve over time? compare it to how many problems a group of high schoolers can solve over the same time.
@@adityakhanna113 @ I don't know how to say this politely, but you need to get out and explore the world more and talk to the majority of people in the world - in 3rd world and developing countries.
You're so very smart, but ironically you used 4o thinking instead of o1 and didn't actually answer the question 🤣
@@ShpanMan Bro, respectfully... In my country this is 100% of 2nd graders. The point of the demo is that previous AI can do basic: 'If I have 4 strawberries and...' for something outside of it's training data, but once the loops became convoluted/nested etc, LLMs had a difficult time, even with scratchpad memory. Being able to do this effectively is a big deal, although I have yet to like this new model, it seems to come up short in other areas, and most of what it does is just giving you a loading banner for stuff that 4 was doing in the background anyway...
Hey I thought gpt-5 is the next. Wtf is o1
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Sam Altman was acting pretty tense lately when people asking for voice mode. it's all on OpenAI man, you're being absolutely opaque about something you got us excited about. we would stop asking if you would start explaining what's up with it. was it just a bluff? are you waiting for us to forget about it?
That puzzle isn't that easy. Try to solve it on your own first.
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what?
I bet 20 bucks that it still fails in simple logic
Where is the new fast voice?
O(1)
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There are things I can do better.
It’s good. But it still doesn’t know 9.11 < 9.9
"half the sum of their present age"? Stop right there, because you can't have a "sum" of a singular "age." The question doesn't even make sense.
Given the context it clearly means the sum of the ages of the prince and princess at the present time. Those are the only two integers that apply given the specified time, and it's asking for the sum. Maybe they should have said "ages" but I think that's a linguistic edge case and the model was able to figure it out anyway.
@@cajbajthewhite4889Came to say this
@@cajbajthewhite4889 When performing math, you don't make assumptions without stating them upfront. That's a reasonable assumption, but it should state it explicitly or ask for clarification before spitting out an answer.
@@cajbajthewhite4889 Also, I haven't worked it out yet, but just glancing at it, this looks like a basic Algebra level 1 system of equations that it has grossly overcomplicated.
@@QuantumVoid-ro3hithe equations aren't even that complicated tbh
It's super slow tho
That's the point. Use a different model if you don't need the reasoning edge
Still faster than me an probably you
It's slow because it's very new technology. AI in the past never actually "thought" or "reasoned". It was just predicting the answer based on its data, so if you asked a question that was never asked before, it may not get it right.
GPT-4o did have some minor capabilities with this, as it could "work" and code an algorithm to solve certain types of problems.
But GPT-o1 is actually reasoning and not just predicting. Which makes the capabilities even larger. Yet it's a very new technology that has never yet been seen before, so of course it's going to be slow. But you can expect it to get faster in the future, of course ;)
It's slow because it is generating 100's of different ideas in the background before choosing the right one. Faster than a human can write all of that reasoning up into a report.
@@spin4team4096 It is closed source and overhyped. Every ML model is based on statistics and not reasoning.
what a low quality video. Why does every tech video look like its being done off cuff by some random surfer bum
This is not reasoning, llm are never made to reasoning. Its scraping data, labeling into model, and showing where the problem already solved into sets of words.
Thanks for your deep insights
Still no advanced voice mode for 4o lmao