Manga You Can Never Read Again.
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
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There are some manga you can’t read again for reasons you don’t even realize. Let’s discuss.
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As someone who's caught up to the One Piece manga and is currently re-experiencing through the anime. I'd say there's a difference in how One Piece can be enjoyed. Reading the first time is all about mystery, adventure, exploration and going through an emotional rollercoaster. But rereading/rewatching it provides some puzzle piece to help solve said mysteries, picking up on a lot of foreshadowing pieces, Easter eggs, but also appreciating the world building and character development. I don't know how other One Piece fans feel about this but I believe that the author wrote One Piece in a way that can be reread after final chapter's release and provide a completely different experience.
That’s good as :)
@@mugenbop Another thing is one piece is about the journey, you love expiriencing it again because of the joy it does to watch the characters u love goof off. and also the things jospeh said (watch jojos rather than reading them also part 2 is fire)
Rereading Alabasta will be a different experience for me after the recent chapters.
Yeah, skypiea hits different after enies lobby for me
So you’re reading 1000+ chapters to look good on a one piece Reddit discussion fr, while probably still being wrong about your theories in the end. One piece is not quality enough to go through it all again. You could have watched multiple series that had better quality to length ratios fr
I'll let you know as a big JoJo & One Piece fan, reading the beginning is really fun, seeing the seeds of larger themes and plot points that come way later is really instresting.
Really only works with super long manga like JoJo and One Piece
One Piece had the opposite effect on me. Tried for years to get into it through the anime, but the whole East Blue arc is such a slow burn, it only picks up when the Straw Hats enter the Grand Line. The manga has been way more of a digestible format for me personally.
@StrayTato I'm surprised I made it to the times kipper on the anime alone. I can't fathom watching it all again. After punkhazard I started the manag an haven't turned back since(accept for watching some of the big fight scenes that got animated)
Completely disagree about rereading berserk. When you reread a series with so much subtext and symbolism, it doesn’t matter if you know what happens or what characters say, the amount of ways you can interpret these scenes and dialogue gives rereads that much more enjoyment
I see what your saying but I guess for me I don’t look even deeper than that on each read as opposed to the character development and layout of the story :3
Yeah I never get bored of rereading Berserk. There are some manga/anime (Berserk, AOT, HxH, Vinland Saga) that I don't think I'll ever stop rereading.
Berserk is the only manga I read 3 times. Once as an anxty teen once in my early 20 and now in my late 20s
Agreed I have already reread berserk 4 times and i will probably reread it again after sometime.
Yeah I would definitely re-read one piece. Because of the world building and constant call back to earlier details, it makes going back really rewarding. Even more so as someone who was a fan of it as a kid before I was really media literate and being able to experience so differently through understanding more of the subtext and literary devices being used
I would reread it once it ends
ive reread it over 9 times(back when it was much shorter i used to read it more often lol) and then i fell off for like 6 years... and to experience the hype moment that was trending, i said fuck it lets read it again from where i left off... read it until i caught up, and just HAD to reread it again to completion bc i just like the world and characters so much, its a very compelling story once it gets you, you just wanna reexperience it.
Personal opinion on Jojo: the first series is an 80s artifact, ad aside from a couple of interesting ideas, very milquetoast. However, the second series is where Araki found his identity, and is still quite unique in the shonen landscape. I strongly recommend it, especially considering most of its ideas were dropped from the third series on.
Ok ok I’m intrigued :)
i genuinely really like part 1 its way more emotional for me now at least at a rewatch/read
@@SoupSter19 same and tbh I prefer part 1 over part 3 despite the people prefer part 3
@@afrina3781 TRUE
@@mugenbop I don't know who said part 2 was a "slog" to get through, as it's a real step up from the first part. Part 1 is basically: "Oh okay well that's bizarre I guess", but part 2 onwards basically IS "We'll show you bizarre!"
Claymore can be re-read immediately after, especially because of the dialogue and the way it's drawn.
I personally don't think that reading a story multiple times means that you'll necessarely "crack the code" and understand it perfectly. That would be kind of impossible, since only the author knows exactly what the story is about and how everything came to be. Most of my favourite manga/comics are the ones that I've read multiple times and that I think still require more to understand them better.
That being said, the editing on this video was great, you're outdoing yourself!
Thanks man :)
In defense of part 1 I absolutely love when I read it because I went in with a completely open mind and no expectations. from my perspective it moved very fast beautiful panel work beautiful artwork and it was nice to see the evolution of the series over time especially with the how interconnected is the different characters are across the parts.
To me, Claymore was perfect. I enjoyed the mystery of the organization, but I think the main story is about Clare. How she interacted with her companions, their relationship and how they evolved and worked together to stop the organization and ultimately her personal antagonist/nemesis. That was the real plot imho. I think The mystery and the work of the organization in another continent was just world building.
Cool video tho, I really liked it!
PS: You'll be surprise how many times people have read this manga over and over again. I've joined a Claymore Facebook group where people claim that they've read the story like 9 or 10 times lol.
yes its just a cool thing to make the world more interesting while giving miria a option to kill her bosses without consequences, the warriors themselve have no reason to care, after all it even ends with them telling rubel to never return since all they want is to live their lives in peace
I can reread stories like Claymore over and over again for a simple reason: because I cared about the characters. Even though the first-time experience of finding out what happens is gone, the feelings I have for the characters is still there.
We legit need a Claymore sequel because this story is too damn amazing and didn't get fully finished and I'm always sad about that because I LOVE Claymore so much. Read that shit from day 1! I remember when it dropped in that shonen jump all those years ago so if we ever get it, I'd be stoked!
One piece is great but it can be a slog to reread all the way through. But getting to watch it again with someone who had never experienced it is a strangely great feeling. Maybe that’s why One Piece fans are always trying to share it with others.
13:00 As a one piece fan YES I would I don't know how many times I've re-watched/re-read one piece just a couple days ago I read the first 100+ chapters of OP and it just gets better every time easily cementing it as my favorite piece of fiction and considering it's the best selling manga of all time I'm sure I'm not the only one
Respect :3
yea me too
I disagree about Claymore. The revelation about The Organization is what drives our protagonists to try and destroy it, which is a big enough task in itself. At the end they are satisfied with freeing themselves. I don’t see why there would be a need to go overseas. The war isn’t the point; the manipulation of the Claymore’s is. Priscilla was also the main antagonist, so her defeat also meant it was a good place to end. The important part of the mystery was solved; we don’t need to know absolutely everything. To do so would risk stretching and expanding the series farther than it should. It’s possible, but not necessary. As it stands, it feels perfect to me by ending where it needed to and not dragging itself for the sake of answering everything or showing us everything or undoing everything.
I agree about the point of the organisation but I think the reason the organisation was made should not have been because of warring nations far off on the main land make those battles really cool and interesting as it detracts from the awesome conflict in front of us :)
Have it be the church wanted someone to fear to drive people to religion or for the rich to cull the population. That way they do it for themselves and the nation plus we fill like this isn’t just a small island in a hushed world. That said I do really like the series and this is just me :)
@@mugenbop we also really don't know what is true and what is not... Miria might just have "discovered" various "info" that the Organization wanted her to find... there may not even be a larger continent and world... we just don't know... a lot of the "info" we the readers get, is from the Organization... we learn that they can't be trusted, so why do we trust them and the info that they provide to us the readers???
yes Miria did find the chained Dragon, that is real, but that's the only thing that's confirmed for us, we still don't even know if the "yoma" is the dragon's own cells, or if the dragon was merely a host for it, being its own separate organism, a parasite: "the Yoma virus", and the dragons were just its "first" hosts, before the Organization would then experiment with it... we don't even know exactly how the normal yoma are created... are the normal yoma created from infecting humans with the yoma, or was the yoma just developed/grown/evolved/etc into normal yoma without humans
there's also a lot of other deeper mysteries, but not going to get into all of them here...
(for example, if the "island" is just a research lab for the Organization and there's that secluded village where the island humans never knew of yoma existence, then how do the same island humans have their "pagan" legend of the twin goddesses of love, telling their children and their children, and even having statues of it in towns, despite now having their new religion, church, and capitol city of their God of Rabona, so suspicious, maybe, there is a lot more to this "island" and its history, in relation to the yoma, than we're to believe or told/shown to not believe, maybe even the Organization itself is also unaware as well... with the possible exception of Rubel... laughs)
(and many other such deep mysteries)
I'm 36 and i read mang since 2004. I think i have over 180 manga read on MAL😅. I usually don't reread manga, but there are 10 or so that i have read countless times:
One Piece - 3 times
Dragon Ball - 3 times
GTO - 3 times
Shounan Junai Gumi - 3 times
Diamond no Ace - 2 times
Eyeshield 21 - 5 times
Berserk - 8 times
Vagabond - 2 times
Hajime no Ippo - 3 times
Holyland - 2 times
Gantz - 2 times
Hokuto no Ken - 2 times
Crows, Worst and Slam Dunk - more than 10 times each..easily😅😅
There are tons of manga that i loved but i won't read ever again:
Because of the shity endings - Bleach, Naruto, Tenjou Tenge.
Because of how heavy they are - Oyasumi Punpun, 20th Century Boys, Pluto
Honorable mentions to all of Jojo's, Hunter x Hunter, Nana, Beck, One Outs, Haikyuu, Vinland Saga, all of Baki, Arslan Senki.
The big one that i already read and want to reread soon is Kingdom.
huge respect :)
Damn you been reading manga for 19 years? I was literally born in 2004 only got 9 years of reading manga got any recommendations?
@@laseanbrown9217 I'm 36😅, just a little older🤭. Tell me what you like so i can recomend you some good ones.
Reading One Piece 3 times over is deserving of respect. Have you tried Gash/Zatch Bell? It's a pretty regular shonen but I love rereading it!
@@shinseijuurou6229also 36 started collecting shonen jump in 6th grade, your list is fire. You are a monster
I'm almost a year late to your question lmao and many people have given you the answer already but here's my 2 cents anyway. One Piece gets BETTER on a reread. I've read the manga twice and I'm currently watching the anime slowly with my friend who's watching it for the first time (We're barely 70 eps in).
The first one piece read is like a web of mystery you slowly untangle and try to connect loose threads that can be left unconnected for hundreds of chapters. But once you've read the story, going back and seeing more stuff that was set up, hinted at or mentioned off hand is a crazy and rewarding experience.
All in all I agree with some of your video. I wouldn't go back and read reiraku or punpun. But I do find myself going back and reading series with some high potential but mediocre execution. For example I find Bleach painfully bad at times but I've read certain parts couple time. Re-readability depends on the tone of the series IMO. If it's a melancholic or bleak series; I'll probably not reread it but if it's just an underachieving positive story I'll probably reread it at some point.
PS- Just found your channel through Crash's twitter lol! There's some good stuff.
I actually watched one piece up until episode 500 and continued with the manga up until the dressrosa arc (chapter 700 and something, i guess). I have since stopped reading it for couple of months now (actually its a lot of months). I think about coming back to it and re-reading it from the start, because there are some things i dont remember and it would be good to relive that. But at the same time, I already read a good chunk of the manga, so I would just be reading what I already read. Idk how to describe it, I just think I cant start from the beginning now, but at the same time I don't want to continue from where I left of...
Maybe in the future I'll read it again, when I've forgotten more of it. Im actually reading Naruto, which I watched some years ago, but dont remember much of it. And I dont watched shippuden, so it will me a new experience...
I dont think anyone read all of this, but thanks if you did. And sorry for wasting your time lol
Great video, as for jojo you do really need to just read through it. I like part 1 more than most and always have (fast pace, fun villain, great ending) but I can see how most people find it boring and even for me it is my least favorite part.
I'd say part 2 is where you can really tell if its for you, despite stands not being introduced yet I think its where Araki really started to establish what jojo is with the heavier focus on comedy, more strategic battles, heavily improved character writing, etc. If you read through part 2 and don't at least like it, for one you have no soul, but also it might not be worth continuing.
Part 3 is kinda weird, its the most popular part but also one of the most divisive, and its honestly a slog to get through on a first watch. It went for a mostly episodic approach with major plot development only happening at the beginning, halfway point, and final few fights. This is a real slog when binging and turns a lot of people off because they think its how the rest of the series is gonna be, which really isn't the case. Part 3 gets a lot better on a reread, just being able to enjoy the fun fights without rushing to the end like on a first read, and you really appreciate them more considering how surprisingly dark the final fights are.
Part 4 is my 2nd favorite part and a 10/10 for me, it retains some of the episodic aspects of part 3 in its first half, but it fits way more in the small town setting and all the fights feel like they're building to something. The cast is great and stands are so much more fleshed out here, fights are way more interesting and the first half having low stakes means you get interesting arcs where the villains goal isn't just to kill the main characters, but something like stealing their money instead, and thats not to say there aren't more serious fights, but that's mostly saved for the second half which becomes way faster and gives focus to the main villain who is one of the best in the series, part 4 is just great.
Part 5 is basically part 3's concept done much better. We're back to the travelling setup of part 3 but its heavily improved here, the fights carry over the increased complexity and the characters have so much more depth than the ones in part 3, which even extends to the minor villains that often have more development than some main characters from something like part 1. This is also greatly helped by there not really being plot armor here, some major characters die off shockingly early but it doesn't feel cheap and makes every fight important. This is considered one of the best parts and while I personally wouldn't agree with that (kinda weak main villain, an insane amount of dropped plot points, giorno is a bit boring and has no real personal connection to anything in the plot besides bruno, who really would've made for a better protagonist), I still think its pretty great and is arguably the most famous part now.
Part 6 is the most controversial, its either one of the best or worst depending on who you ask but I'm leaning towards it being one of the best. Without spoilers, part 6 is the ending of jojo with part 7 starting an entirely new storyline, and because of that its heavily tied to the previous parts (mostly 3) and I think it does a great job at that. The fights here are the most out there yet and while some of them fall flat because of the over explanation required, most are really interesting. Not to mention a prison break being such a perfect setting for jojo, and the entire last third is so chaotic and perfectly wraps up jojo, the ending is weird and lots of people hate it but I thought it was fantastic. The middle portion can be a slog, but it is really worth getting through and pucci has to be the most underrated villain in all of jojo
Part 7 is a masterpiece, but seeing fan discussion at all probably already let you know that and it more than lives up to the hype. It's my favorite manga of all time, blew everything I'd read up to then out of the water and even now after reading hundreds of manga since its still at the top, other series have come close (aot, berserk, hxh, one piece, pluto, etc) but I don't think I'll ever enjoy a manga more than sbr, it's perfect to me.
Jojolion is weird, there's no real consensus on its quality and I've seen it anywhere from the top of rankings to dead last, and as someone who read it monthly I can say discussion of it during the final arcs run was equivalent to the aot ending discussion now (so fucking miserable). That said, the first half is generally agreed to be great, being heavily based off part 4 the first half is a mystery focusing on the main characters identity, the fights are the most insane in the series but are extremely good, all the villains are great, the setting is so strong, the way it connects to part 7 is great, art is incredible, the main characters are all super unique and josuke is one of the best jojos. It all builds up to the vitamin C arc which is one of the absolute best in the series. The second half is where it gets controversial though, with the mystery solved it shifts to a high stakes action series, and while I do think there was a bit of a drop off in quality, it still remains very solid with good new characters up to the unfortunately underwhelming final arc. The final arc starts strong but when it gets to the actual fight is goes downhill fast, the main villains stand is very poorly defined and basically immortal and the villain himself is the worst in the series. Reading it monthly was such a pain, it was just this endless cycle of them hyping up a solution only for it to be completely innefective, then anticlimactically kill off a character and repeat like 5 times until there's a complete asspull that barely makes any sense and defeats him instantly. It just feels like wasted potential but t's not enough to ruin the series for me because the rest is so strong.
Part 9 is cool so far but way too early to judge, anyways sorry for rambling about jojo for way too long
Thanks for this break down dood! Ive only watched parts 1 and 2 ( me and a buddy would get stoned and watch it together. Some of the best experiences of my life honestly) and I really enjoyed them! I haven’t gotten around to continuing it but I do plan to read/watch the rest of the series.(currently watching one piece and I’m on ep 626) I was always confused on the order of story after part 6 so thanks for the clarification!
Being confronted is just something I enjoy, and even when it’s dark, there is a sublime experience that art that doesn’t confront me lacks. And I am also rereading One Piece rn because I also enjoy pleasant things.
You and me are the same 👌🏼
You're very introspective and i like that. You, just like my favorite stories (my pfp being from the one most important to me), make me look into and at myself in ways I may find uncomfortable, but at the end, make me better.
As a One Piece fan, yes I was one of the ones answered with “YES” to your question lol .. but the thing is I have watched One Piece more than once and I am not joking or exaggerating but the first and second and third is all different from each other. It’s just different. BUT I am a huuuge Slam Dunk fan as well but I really can’t read/watch it fully again but I still love it dearly. That’s why I love one piece in a different sense than Slam Dunk, Naruto, Bleach or any other series I’ve read/watched. Not to make them as if they’re less than OP but for me AT LEAST it’s the only manga I can re-read/watch again and feel the same emotions if not more than I had before.
As someone who’s read a lot of mangas from different genres I always say that OP and Slam Dunk are my always all time favorite, and for different reasons which make them more enjoyable to me.
As a huge one piece fan I've reread the manga over 10 times and watched the anime easily over 20 times. I've been a fan of the series since the 4kids version came out. Even with how bad that version was I've watched it multiple times including the reruns. By the time I entered middle school I was watching the sub and have been watching and reading it consistently. One piece is a series that has tons of foreshadowing that keeps me coming back. The characters are so enjoyable and Luffy is what i consider a perfect main character. and the world building has me always coming back to re-experience it all over again. I believe long running series are perfect to re-experience. Manga I personally can never experience again are all short series. Short series can't ever get me invested enough to reread/rewatch a series.
Ngl watching JJBA part one didn't really impress me too much and with the ending I was thinking about stopping it there
but my little bro who was watching with me got me to keep going. The switch up was insane and now Jojo's is one of my favorite series
This was beautiful and you're right if youre in a bad place then something that can speak with you deeoly but when you feel better not want to engage with it and thats completely okay:). Loved the essay thankyou:)
Yeah, that makes sense.
im someone caught up on one piece and id say that i get the urge to read it all again a decent amount but then i always decide to give a new story a shot
One piece has so many specific foreshadowings, call backs and Chekhov's guns that it's actually popular to do a second read through.
Eg: (not spoiler) In chapter 1018, there was a call back to chapter 1 and the fan base collectively lost their minds.
Some book-tuber named
Murphy something (can't remember her last name) did a second read and seem to enjoy it.
Murphy Napier
@@barryallen2240 yeah, her.
I feel like one of the most important parts of reading part 1 of Jojo’s is truly you get to see how Araki’s Art evolved from each part. That is truly one of my favourite things about reading longer running series of manga.
i had more fun rewatching part 1 of jojos than my initial watch tbh, seeing how the series unfolds and the heights it reaches really lets you understand and appreciate the simplicity of the first part i feel
I've heard of people struggling w/ part 1 JoJo (I often recommend getting to it after part 2 to make sense of part 3 especially) since Araki was getting his footing then. I find part 2 was when Araki really started to lean into his style bit by bit. Rarely until recently heard people struggling with part 2 (guess hamon does pale a fair bit compared to stands versatility). Personally, I really enjoy watching an artist evolve over time (maybe it comes from enjoying things like drawing as a child but seeing these nigh inhumanly amazing artists progress to their heights is a rather great way to see they're like anyone else who constantly strives to improve their heights).
I started with part 5 cause at the time the french scans for earlier parts were awful but after falling in love with the show it made reading the bad scans way more bearable.
IMO Re-Reading Great Stories Like One Piece, HxH, Monster and JOJO"S is so much fun. Because You see hints and foreshadowing for future plot revelations. It makes it even better.
For Example, Hints for Gear 5 started Dropping Since Thriller Bark which takes place 600 chapters before it's actual reveal. It's so much fun to experience all these hints and foreshadowing dropped.
loved the new greenscreen
I almost laughed my ass off when you used the "I am tragedy" edit of that one panel from Tokyo Ghoul, it's so famous that people think it's real, almost like that one sequence from Billy bat that people put the ending speech from attack on Titan into
To answer your question about One Piece; yes. I am currently half way through a re-read, and it is wonderful in an entirely new way. Plot connections, foreshadowing, and experiencing the character growth again is completely worth it. I would go so far as to say that re-reading One Piece elevates the story. It is meant to be read again. On its surface, it is a fun pirate adventure manga, but underneath... it is really confronting so many societal issues from a place not often truly explored in shonen.
I've returned to this video to say I recently re-read Berserk and I was so hesitant at first because of the events that would occur, how heart wrenching it is, but I just decided to re-read it because I simply wanted to and honestly, it enlightened me further of what Berserk is and it's characters, I also enjoyed it more but it also broke me harder because I knew the things that would occur, it felt more personal since I already knew these characters, but the fun that I had with this story even though the events are horrific are theorizing on what happened to King Gaiseric & his kingdom a 1000 years ago with Void's upbringing, what lead up to those events, who were the previous God Hand members, etc. Things like that make me invest so much more into the story than I already did, just learning about the lore, also after rereading Berserk, Griffith to me became my favorite villain, idk why even tho he was already in my top 5, despite me hating him & despising him, I cant ignore the fact that his character is just so intriguing & fascinating, his dynamic with Guts is just so immense, I cant describe it with simple words, also the Wounds Chapter is my favorite sequence in Berserk, just throwing that out there, Berserk is truly one of a kind I well def be re-reading it again at some point next year
Fire Punch is actually a shonen series, but it DOES feel like seinen at times. 😵💫
This sounds like a you problem i reread my favorite arcs or whole mangas all the time. Sometimes you just have to turn your brain off and just enjoy the ride
I've actually re-read 900 chapters of One Piece and I've rewatched some of the anime several times. Im actually rewatching it right now. For me, I have to let several years go by so that I've forgotten a lot of stuff before I can go back and do it though. However, there are stories that I've read or watched and went, yep that was good but I don't think I'll ever do that again.
As some one who watched Part 1 of JoJo's 5 times because of bringing different people into JoJo's and watching it with them, it is really hard work to watch even though I try to hype myself up for the good scenes, but Part 2 is really nice
the music you had in the bg when giving the synopsis of 20th century boys was unnerving. I loved it and has convinced me to start reading this series.
It is the music from the live action adaptation which pls god do not watch
The thing about Jojo is that each part is its own story with different characters, settings and conflicts so it feels natural to just reread from the beginning of a part instead of the beginning of it all. In fact, part 7 is an entirely new continuity with no story ties to the previous parts except for the power system.
I've reread part 7 alone much more than I do other parts because it is so good.
in contrast to mangas that we can re-read, i’d say the top one for me is haikyuu, i’ve read it all the way through about 6 times and a few times just different sections, it’s such a fun experience and honestly just doesn’t get old! i know it’s more of a childish manga, but i’m still waiting for another one to sweep me off my feet quite like this one does :)
As someone that read one piece up to about 10% through wano before taking like a 2 year break. I recently decided to re-read the whole series again just to refresh my memory i actually am finding it much more enjoyable the 2nd time around as I feel like i can appreciate a lot of the early foreshadowing so much more knowing whats coming up. One Piece may have a rocky beginning but everything after the grandline is gold and delivers massive payoffs to it's readers.
You've raised very interesting points! Excellent video!
Duuude absolutely sick! I was one of your below 200 subscribers and seeing you now with 16k+ is NUTS! Keep it up and awesome video 💪🏻💪🏻🤘🏻
Thanks man appreciate the patience and watching :)
There are going to be some major major 20th Century Boys spoilers ahead so be warned
I think Friend's identity being Kawamatsu was for sure weird and felt like it didn't fit especially since the Fukubei reveal was so good. However I do like the idea that Friend, this invincible figure that supposedly rose from the dead, is actually just a man whose immaturity drove him to such horrible lengths. A kid whose gripes were so minor and inconsequential but he just never learned to grow up and cope. The scene with Kenji and Friend talking at the end was great because it was the first time Friend lost it. His calm demeanor fell apart and he was just that kid again. So I do think the ending falls a little flat, but I think it's still interesting and has some value
Totally agree :)
Is it weird that i didnt care who freind was and was more invested in learning what his plan for world domination was
I have reread one piece many times,each time discovering something new or being to understand the characters better
Part 1 I absolutely agree 2 is a different for me it’s really awesome in my opinion
regarding on One Piece, Yes, I've read it 2x now from start to the current chapter....
I love One Piece, but I'm not sure I'll ever reread the whole series. I've reread moments and arcs, but thats it lol. Partly because of how long the series is, partly because the beginning is just fine, and partly because I just don't want to feel sad anymore! As for 20th Century Boys, super happy you mentioned it, it's one of my favorite mangas. I've actually reread it twice and will probably reread it again, though I might stop when the second time skip happens. It definitely didn't end strongly, though I found myself appreciating the ending more on my second read especially since I understood why the series' tone felt so different, it didn't make me like the ending just understand a little more what bothered me about it. Maybe I'll like it more next time I reread it, but even if I don't I love the last third or so it's a series I enjoy the journey reading. Most of the time I don't reread a series because I'm done with it and am moving on to something else, occasionally I'll forget I read a series and get around half way or further before I remember I read it before lol. I'll have to really like the series or certain moments in it to reread it on purpose.
Part 1 of jojo is a hard entry point but you come to appreciate it so much after reading the later parts and I think part 2 gets a lot of undeserved slander, the villains and protag in part 2 are so good
Claymore is what got me back into manga last year. I watched the anime with subs and was really bummed at where it left off it kinda sorta aaa had it's own ending because at that time the anime had caught up to the manga but it's SO FUCKIN GEWD. I waited months to read the last 15 chapters because I just didn't want it to end but reread is a very viable thing as you go in knowing way more and these little puzzle pieces have been there in the open the whole time and tou just go "fuckin a"😅
I've started re-reading One Piece at the start of the year. After 50 chapters i started skipping a lot of them and i'm mostly focusing on more important parts. I think after reading it weekly for almost 16 years (since chapter 525 that came out in december 2008) most of the early parts of it lost the charm for me. I'm still interested in answers for some mysteries and characters story but honestly I don't wait for new chapters like before. After so many years I might just become too old to enjoy it on the same level.
When it comes to JoJo Part 1, it's definitely a product of its time so i don't blame people saying its a slog to read. Part 2 thankfully is a lot better, then Part 3 is good but has a proble of being too long, has too many fights that aren't very interesting but ending is why its worth going trough all of it. Part 4 imo has the worst cast out of all parts, setting isn't the strongest and i find main villain not very interesting (mostly because i saw his archetype many times in western media). Part 5 is basically the same as 3 but done a lot better with better pacing and more interesting fights. Part 6 is a wild ride that you either love or hate, there is no in between :)
Part 7 is the best out of it, with interesting characters, setting and fights and the best main villain that Araki created.
Haven't read Jojolion yet so i can't say anything about it.
Last year i've re-read Monster and without spoilers i can say only that before i thought it was a very good written story but now i think its an excellent story.
I paused the video right before you revealed the ending to downfall to read the whole thing, what a ride
I haven't read any of Asano's manga before today but i now get why punpun is so well known, everything just felt so grounded and realistic
Great manga
I do not think i could ever read the manga "Orange" again. I read it at a very romantically lonely point in my life and it cut me really deep to see this girl try everything possible to protect this boy she loved. Wayching her freinds cry over this boy they barely know. Maybe others have read it and they dont fell the same way but holy crap dude, the end will stick with me forever but i couldnt put my self through that again
Great video as always, but the highlight of this video was the green screen 👍
Rec is definitely a manga you can only truly read once. It ends fantastically but knowing how it ends totally changes the experience if you were to read it again.
the only thing that pulls claymore down for me is the pacing in the north arc imo and that's why I wouldn't want to reread it. However if we got a good anime adaptation I'd def watch
Also regarding one piece: there is foreshadowing for gear 5 going back as early as the first volume iirc and there's a ton of this kind of stuff within one piece, making it extremely rewarding to reread with later knowledge so you can actually pick up on all these little details
The discussion on enjoying a medium a second time. While it's true the initial experience is unlikely to be recreated, there are some works that are better on reread and others that are not. A great mystery loses the mystery aspect, but now you can see all the foreshadowing and that the story has been consistent. More cryptic shows like Serial Experiments Lain may leave you with different interpretations on the rewatch. One for me was 'C Money Possibility Control.' The ending of the show didn't make too much sense to me on the first watch through, but when I showed it to friends and looked at the finer details, I suddenly understood it. Some shows are not good on rewatch, like Claymore. Way too much exposition in the show hurts it. Great on the first watch, but very unwanted on the second. So is a rewatch better than the first watch? Sometimes. It just depends on how the story was written and if it was created with rewatching in mind. If rewatching was always worse, than there'd be no point in collecting media. No point in reruns on television. So it's good to acknowledge the nuance of the topic.
I've never expect anyone to talk about downfall after reading it randomly thinking it would be a different story and finishing it with more questions than I started
Evangelion was the series that i will probably not rewatch again, though i love the series entirely.
Eva opened my mind up to alot of complex ideas and philsophies to my younger adult mind when i was questioning my future and self worth to the people around me (18/19). When the last rebuild came out (26) i felt as if i had finished grieving a traumatic break up or saying goodbye to a sibling that I may not see for a long time or maybe ever again, but knowing that their life will continue, maybe even for the better.
There was this feeling of closure that made me feel like it was ok to never dive into the series and pick apart the ideas and philosophies, or try to empathize/ sympathize with the characters again.
I read Berserk for the first time this year, and while I'm keeping up with the updates, Idk if I could ever experience the whole story again. Especially the eclipse
I dont understand why people think part 1 is a slog. Its so tight nit and made me love the series. Personally love hamon.
For me I've read one piece manga 4 times and rewatched the anime once (only arabasta/enis lobby/shabondi/marineford/dressro/whole cake/wano) , Not because I did not understand the whole story, but the amount of information, themes, secrets, and dialogues hidden between the lines of texts in the story that makes me see the story from a different perspective every time.
When it comes to JoJo, I honestly prefer part 1 and part 2 over where I currently am (part 3). I just though hamon was so much more interesting than the stands
Nice video mate. IMO, I never re-read long series manga especially if its not done yet, but adventure type manga like Berserk and One Piece is different, I'm always curious on what happened back then, what's the easter egg, what kind of hints and foreshadowing that I missed when I'm reading it back then. That's why I go back in some series that highly interesting for me.
so when it comes to claymore i think that was kind of the point, all of these struggles didnt matter, its a bleak ending sure, but thats kind of the point of it. i was all for some other purpose, they were just pawns, but to the characters that grander purpose mattered very little in front of their small goals, just like they mattered little to the bigger world.
Whenever the section titles come up i keep expecting the summoning salt music to play for some reason.
I do like my summoning salt :)
I just started collecting 20th Century Boys perfect volumes, so I'm excited to read. But we shall see about the ending lol.
Still worth the read hope you enjoy :)
I’m re reading all of jojo and love it especially part 1
I mean isn't the magic going away by re reading good, it can give insight on how it ticks
It’s like magic tricks, it’s cool to have an idea of how it works but then suddenly it isn’t magic :3 obviously some stories never have this issue
I watched the anime of JoJo's Part 1 and thought that the first three episodes were amazing, but then it become kind of meh until the amazing last episode. I told the people that wanted me to watch it that I wasn't going to continue into Part 2, so they decided to make me watch the first episode of Part 2 and... damn, was it insane.
I'd say Part 2 is as amazing as it is because of how it plays off of Part 1. That's why I'll always love Part 1 for how it elevated the rest of the series, even though my initial viewing of it was bad.
I agree with the 20th Century Boys analogy on the ending, but I would say that about large parts of the story. The story relies too much on red herrings. Things either don't matter in the long run or don't live up to the crazy suspense buildup.
I did reread Claymore a few years ago, but it was a lesser experience that time around, but not because they never explored the rest of the world. I think plot-wise, it had enough. However, the “winged” hair technique reveal and how the final arc dragged were not that great to retread.
Claymore made a lot of grand implications about the world. I think it was to attempting to make it feel more filled with depth. But it just never got shown so even taking the time ended up feeling like a waste of energy. You had implications that the mainland wasn't at all medieval and was in fact a very modern, maybe even post modern society. Those hints being some of the tech the orginization has. The yoma were created to fend off some invading force. Some of the translation makes it seem like the invaders were dragons. Some make it seem like they were aliens. But either way the Yoma proved to be just as much of a problem. The mainland still needed a combat force and they didn't want to waste the work they did on the Yoma entirely so the Claymore program and flesh inter mingling began.
One Piece fan here. I would definitely reread the entire series. It's like a comfort series for me at this point. It's a series that seems way too long at first, but then becomes something that you can't get enough of.
I do admire that :)
Beastars was great up until the last arc and for that reason idk if I can read it again even with all 22 volumes on my shelf
Part 1 is fun as hell to me. The rest is just amazing. You’re doing yourself a disservice by not reading it as someone who’s into manga
So I’ve never read JoJo properly, but I’ve seen the entire anime 6+ times through.
And on my 4th rewatch I finally learned to appreciate Part 1. It’s very reminiscent of old school adult animation like Heavy Metal. It’s so rock and roll.
(I’ve only read Part 5,6,7,8,9)
Personally I find that for me to be able to truly love a series, it needs to be something I can reexperience. If something is truly good, it's going to be even better on a reread as you catch more things you didn't the first time. It's why I can't say I loved 20th Century Boys even though I did enjoy many parts of it (that twist ending reveal at the end of 21st Century Boys just made the central mystery not make any sense), but when it comes to one of my favorites like Hunter x Hunter I'll at the very least reread the entire Succession War when it comes back from Hiatus x Hiatus.
Berserk is definitely can be reread. I recently read it again and it's so good!
One piece, in my opinion, gets better on rewatch because you start to pick up on things that are paying off, even now back in the beginning of the story
For me personally, im somebody who rarely reread series simply because i like to experience new things and if i am rereading something its because its one of my favs but havent read in a long time so i forgot alot of details( currently rereading op for example). I’ve had stories impact me greatly but just dont read it again simply because i remember the details but the ones that get better the second time are the only series i give 10/10s (aot, samurai champloo, mob psycho).
Endings also dont effect my rating of the overall story so long as i enjoyed most of it. Sorry if this sounds like im arguing, im not, just giving my perspective. Great video although admittedly i had to skip the 20th century boys section out of fear of spoilers.
I don't spoil how it ends just that it feels not the best haha :) but thanks for the comment
@@mugenbop oh añright, better safe then sorry for me then. I only recently started first volume and enjoying it but i can believe the ending is bad. In my experience with urasawa through monster and pluto he has great stories but both endings kind of lack thst final punctuation mark to give me a full satisfaction with the ending.
Hope you enjoy it though it is an amazing ride regardless :)
it always saddens me when people say they drop jojo after part one because from the start of part 2 its so monumentally much better
I will finish it I swear :)
Although not an anime Mr robot left this same feeling. Goated show but I would never want to watch it again.
One Piece can be a totally different experience when you do a second read, because you will notice alot of foreshadow and little details you miss the first time because you didn´t have context.
that is very exciting :)
I won't ruin it's ending - or even its story details. But a one-shot by Hiroaki Samura called "Luncheon of Tears Diary" falls into that category for me, but for entirely different reasons.
For the record, I've read One Piece and Berserk twice. They were actually more enjoyable the second time around.
Also, to explain Gear Five would be spoiling key parts of the manga.
I just kept saying, "YES...YES...YES." for the one piece questions.
i haven't watched the video but i can't finish claymore because i can't remember where i was, the series is so auspicious but i'll try
It’s a quick read honestly :)
yes, i would gladly rewatch/reread one piece
As a one piece fan, I wish I can wipe my memory to read experience OP. But the great thing about OP is that it’s also amazing on re reads/watch. You just have to take the leap and you’ll see why.
I am excited :)
@@mugenbop I'm excited for you!. Would love to follow your jouney through the grand line :)
I have been thinking maybe after two other big series I need to read that it is time :)
About Claymore - I think the reason why we aren't told about the nation over the sea is because it's not the point. Clare and the other Claymores want their own freedom and lives, apart from what the Organization wants. Their lives are on the island, not the mainland, and a war beyond that has nothing to do with them.
I also admit Claymore has been my favorite manga for a long time and there is this theme of living their own human lives away from their monstrous sides and tendencies that is a bit more apparent on a reread. They don't give a shit about the mainland, because on the mainland, they'd just be warriors. On the island, they're people. The entire manga, the characters are constantly fighting against becoming full-fledged yoma - And they can only stay human on the island. Why WOULD they want to go to the mainland? Them going onto the mainland to fight in a war that they don't care to fight in wouldn't make sense either. They get their freedom at the end on the island.
I agree I understand that’s the point of the story and like that aspect, however if you need a mystery to create intrigue about the Claymores origin; having the answer be a place and world bigger with its on full scale action and battles in a battle manga.
Ultimately takes focus away from the main intention of the story in my opinion even though it reflects that they were tools.
Not saying I want a sequel and go to the mainland but I think don’t make the world larger without a promise of seeing it
I've actually reread and rewatched One Piece multiple times, I've watched and watched with peoplewho go through the journey, and it is still as enjoyable as the first one for me and even more so in some parts
That’s awesome as :)
To me I can't reread manga or anime or anything else because to me the magic just isn't there anymore.
Plus to me, rereading and re experiencing are 2 completely different things. You can't re experience something by rereading it because the you of today is different to the you who read it the first time.
I really forgot to mention this :3
I mean evangelion movies are pretty sad but the eva fights is just the coolest thing so i've rewatched them all like 3 times :^ )
Im defintly watching or rereading one piece when its over, and i already went back in the anime and you see things you missed alot of times
That would be something amazing actually :)
to be completely honest, i really really need to read claymore, but i keep putting it off 😅 i found out about it through a fanfiction based on the world, and the fanfiction was so good that i thought to check out what it was based on, but i never did 😅
Worth reading for sure :)
Plenty of people read and re-read One Piece often. One Piece is actually a story that gets better the more you read it because new information completely re-contextualizes previous moments and makes them more amazing on the next read.
have you read the monster manga? i just started it and it is so good i have gotten gooswbumps 4 times in the first two chapters
This is an excellent story. Naoki Urasawa is the master. Enjoy, brother. And a lot of his other works are great. I've never seen a person that could do as many good mangas as him.
I have same dude who made 20th Century, very much enjoy which also has another ending worth discussing :)
@@eversongabriel7099 i just finished it, and it was incredible im definitely gonna have to check out his other stuff
One piece is a bad example because there are so mant small things that stumble into huge things later that i for 1 didnt see coming at all. So going back and re reading them gives them a whole new context.
Amazing video
I really don't disagree with your opinion on rereading same things again, heck I though the same few years ago.
Why watch or read same things again?
But in past years I really came to view it differently.
There is really something to rereading or revisiting work you really enjoyed first time.
Sure it's not -the same- as first time, but it's like meeting with old friend and having retelling together on some sort of adventure you had years before. You still smile and laugh remembering those moments, maybe even starting to remember them more and more fondly with each retelling of it.
That is way I think the longer works like One Piece has -more- value of rereading it, because to be frank I really don't remember what I read years ago on XXX chapter.
And I don't think, because those parts weren't imports, it's just that there is -so much of it-.
I think it's same reason people rewatch all the LOTR or HP movies multiple times.