Hello, Jose from Puerto Rico and a new subscriber to this channel. I'm viewing this video on November 23, 2020. On this date I will receive a Leatherman P4. Having said that, the reason I subscribed to your channel was the first lines of your intro. You're a tradesman who puts tools through their paces taking them to the max. I'm not a tradesman per-say, but I do enjoy the functionality of these multi-tools. I've owned the Wave, some tools from Gerber, Victorinox and other brands I don't remember now. I currently own a Leatherman Crunch multi-tool and love that locking plier mechanism. I bought the P4 because arthritis is catching up to my hands and the one-handed design was the selling point for me. But after I pulled the trigger, I've seen lots of negative reviews on the P4. You're the only tradesman who has said positive things on this tool and it's reassuring that I didn't make a bad purchase. Like you mentioned in the first 2 sentences, not everyone is a tradesman and you're putting yourself in the place of folks who are not going to put this tool in situations that you probably do in a daily basis.I'm 64 and my hand joints are hurting. I'm also retired. So I guess not all is negative with the P4.
Most of the initial reviews were positive. I was actually both. I thought the engineering behind the FREE line was brilliant, and the tool concept was lacking. However, after hearing many stories like yours, my thinking is that there is a reasonably strong market for this series. Some people just like the new and shiny, others actually need it for what it was intended to be used for. At any rate, I’m glad that the FREE series works so well for you. I appreciate your subscription very much, and welcome aboard.
@@pylant I gave the P4 as a gift to a friend, and I got myself a Surge. The only tool I had from Victorinox was the famous multi-bladed knife that had everything but the kitchen sink. I ended up giving that to a good friend too. The Surge is my go-to EDC and I take it everywhere. I've heard the Victorinox model is very good also, but I prefer the Leatherman model. I think you can't go wrong with either one, it's just a personal preference.
Im not a tradie, I have most leatherman models, and the P4 I just love it. Its so much easier to carry in pocket over a surge. I mostly fix things around home and kids toys etc, bikes and scooters. Pliers are needed but I dont need something super heavy duty. I just love how the free opens easy one handed while holding something with other hand. Love it. If I need anything stronger then the leatherman I go to the toolbox. Multitools to me are a backup to actual tools. Great video as always.
I liked the P4. The ARC has everything we wanted in the P4 and has removed the junky file/thin drivers/short file/etc. $199 for the ARC now is a DEAL! Why? The Magnacut blade can be up to $400 in a fixed blade made US side alone. So the rest of the ARC is essentially costless perfection.
I am also a tradesman. I have all the models. The ST 300 is my go to for EDC. I have tried moving to my Surge but for some reason the weight bugs me. I think after this review I will be purchasing my 7th Leatherman and it will be the Free P4. Nice review very informative.
And the pocket clip reigns Supreme over all others. A pocketclip should be Mandatory on every MT. The Free series clips are extremely well done. Another Excellent Review Sir!🇺🇸
I have this tool on the way direct from Leatherman. It'll be added to the collection of Free T2 & P2, Signal and, MUT. The Signal is my go-to tool for now and has been for a while. I do enjoy the Free T2 as I keep that in my electrical tool bag. I enjoy your reviews as they help me decide which Leatherman I will purchase next. Thanks for the reviews.
I switched to a P4 from a charge as my EDC. I love the new design. It works well for just about everything. If they come out with an updated version with the bit driver, that would be awesome. I would get one.
Hey bud, I just wanted to say thank you for this video. I’ve have a few Charge Plus TTI and it is my main multitool. Been eyeballing they one and wasn’t sure if I’d like it but you putting yourself in my shoes is definitely helping me
Good honest review, taking a perspective outside your specific use case. I picked up the Free P4 recently and really like it so far. It's really nice to be able to get to the tools without opening the pliers up. I also have the Surge and older Wave (non plus) with the bit kit. For me, I've never had to switch the bits out often, so for now anyway, the P4 is on my hip, the Surge with extra bits in my backpack in case I do need something from the extra bits, and the Wave is in the truck. I'm an IT guy though, and woodwork in by basement shop when not in the office. I carry the P4 and Victorinox Cybertool, which is a good combo for my use case. In my shop most of the tools I need are within a few feet of me. It was being in IT though why I started carry a multitool. I found I needed something handy to loosen and tighten retention screws on switch modules, etc in the datacenter (for instance). I've carried one ever since. - Jim
Jim, I appreciate you sharing your perspective. It sounds like you have found yourself a very solid combination with the P4 and Cybertool. My perspective is from an industrial application, hence the reason I tend to gravitate more to heavier duty multi tools and tools in general for that matter. I appreciate you taking the time to comment and for watching. I hope you'll take the time to view some of my other videos as well.
Got my first Free P4 and I really liked it. As i was unboxing it i brought out my other multitools and i could say is it is a well made mt compared to others but ofcourse there are some tools here that are not really awesome but it works.
I would add that when the P4 is clipped on my front pocket it is thinner, so my hand can more easily get to other things in my pocket. Also, the handles do not show scratches on the surface like most other multi-tools. The only modification I have made to my P4 is that I ground down the back edge of the awl into a point. Also, Clay Hayes used and abused his P4 in season 8 of the survival show 'Alone'. And he still uses the same P4 in very hard circumstances to this day. I has held up like a champ. And the knife is fun and easy to deploy and use. Kudos to Leatherman!
Mine arrived a few days ago. Completely happy! One handed ops, fingernails not needed (they get brittle as you get older, despite denial)... Lighter than my Surge so it's my EDC now. Surge stays in the car. Made in the USA! Great review of a multi-tool from the premium multi-tool company. Did i mention the one-handed design?
Hvac guy myself, but I think actually a multitool is very suited for HVAC units. Aside from cutting pipe,the leatherman with the hacksaw could prob handle that too. and backing out the main refrigerant valves. Which I've found the Gerber centerdrive can sometimes do with a bit - socket adapter. You can fully access and service most units with just a multitool and a multimeter. Good review as well, that's a nice looking tool
I love my P4 the tool set is ideal for me, the only thing I didn’t get was why it didn’t come with a pocket clip but that’s all sorted now thanks to their customer service. Great review as always!!! 👍🙂
Thank you. What makes the P4 the best fit for you? I felt like the tool set in this multi tool was not worth the $140 price tag. I would imagine that the ease of use plays a big part in why you like it so much.
Well in my case it won’t get hard use and it’s light and easy to carry. I like the scissors, box opener and the blade also all the tools are easily accessible. I agree with you on the price but I guess it’s to do with the magnetic architecture.
That seems a little far-fetched for me. Magnets don’t cost that much. The magnets that are going into these multi tools are pretty weak as well, so I wouldn’t think it should affect the price that much. I think leatherman is just trying to maximize their profit because of the new styling of this tool. But then again that’s just a personal opinion.
@@txtoolcrib i just bought a free p4. I have victorinox spirit X, victorinox swisstool, 2nd gen wave, Charge TTi with bits kit, SOG powerassist & gerber suspension. Among all these, including the p4, i prefer the feel of the spirit X. I am just a collector, and i hardly use any of them. If i really want to EDC, i would still prefer the spirit X. Having say that, free p4 is good, and i can live without the bit adapter. a USD 140 price tag is still a lot cheaper than the its price in Malaysia. Just for info, Retail price for a charge tti+ with bit kit can easily cost more than USD250.00
@@nitric75 agree with you.. we in Malaysia have to pay more for leatherman, but for 3 years use my Surge every day as my EDC I'm very happy so far,Love their main blade,pliers,scissors, awl and exchangeable saw and files..now I survey for new leatherman charge tti plus or P4 for my EDC.but I think more interested to charge tti plus 😊
Well I love my wave+, as a mechanical engineer I appreciate the free series. But I feel like the engineers there were trying to shove this out the door or were basically rushed by advertisement management to get this thing done
This man is correct ; a lot of people do not have a commercial.use for a multi tool. Im a limo wine tour driver. A good user friendly tool is real helpful. Free P4 has nice advancements; hello!
I used the awl once. I tried to make a peg hole bigger in a medicine cabinet made of fiberboard. Is that too much to expect? I didn't think so. Snap, the mini screwdriver broke. It didn’t bend, it snapped off. I didn’t use a lot of pressure either. Add $15 in shipping to the $140 and it’s covered. I never had to use a Leatherman warranty, and I have a PST, Signal, Surge and MUT. I had to use it for the P4 after 30 days. I’m not sure how I’ll use it now. My 30 year old PST is still working fine.
No, you're right. That shouldn't be too much to expect. That is unfortunate. I have been cautiously optimistic about this awl design from the beginning. I actually greatly prefer the Rebar awl to the new P-series tools.
Excellent review. You explained the benefits for a different kind of user. Very good idea. We are in the "golden age" for guns, multi-tools, bikes etc. Multi tools have so many categories that different types of people ,men/women, will have tools that specifically fit their needs. I think you should keep this type of "user category" for future reviews. Your expertise would help people buy the right tool the first time.(Until you become addicted)Lol
Hi, Just a quick update about the package opener on P2/P4. I have slightly modified mine, which seems to have improved it a lot. It is still not great, but the fix was very easy to do and the effect was appreciable. Part of the problem seems to have been that piercing the material you want to cut was difficult. This makes sense because if you look closely, the point you’d naturally use for piercing e.g. clamshell packaging is actually very rounded. By making the whole implement about a millimetre or so shorter, you remove that rounded edge which leaves a more acute point. I simply used my Dremel to do this, and that helped a lot. Will now use it for some time to see if further modification is necessary.
@@txtoolcrib I’ve now tried this fix for a few days, and it has been so good that I have concluded no further modification is needed. I’m not sure I want to say the package opener now is as good as the Wingman’s, but it is actually useful as a package opener. I’m amazed at how much of a difference this tiny tweak made (for me). It’d be interesting to hear your experience with this fix?
My biggest complaint with this one is the price. It's a hard sell to convince me that this tool is worth $40-ish more than the Wave + or $20-ish more than the Surge. Even the Charge + at the same price would be more compelling to me. I certainly appreciate you trying to look at the other side, but I just don't see the value compared to their other models. It seems like a Wingman redesigned with magnets. The one major thing I do like is the Free series has straight sides like the Rebar and ST (my personal favorites due to the compact size vs their function). I don't particularly care for the top of the blade protruding, but the handle shape is nice. There... that's my attempt at finding something I like about them... it's all I got and it kinda hurt. lol
I work maintenance and hvac... this review helped. I have a Surge right now. I always want to upgraded my game and since I have a carry tool bag, i think i will consider trying this to save time for quick work orders. Using the surge to change bit and a bit extender, wire strippers, can opener, blah blah. I could just walk to my bag get my proper tools. Im not sure how you use your Surge for "heavy" applications ( big jobs you have your tools with you and power) but I see you point. All those jobs cutting paracord, putting in hookers screws, cutting rope, and opening up a can of tuna fish. If your really on that leatherman surge for "heavy applications" either you take way to long to do your job and give poor product or you dont have tools and still take too long to do your project. Never used the P4 but quick accessibility with fast centered motion is what's needed for a multi tool. And please spring load all of them. Figure out how to use that magnetic shit to do it. Grip is horrible. I love my Surge though. I just wish i didnt have to have more pockets to carry other shit to compensate. Make every tool work like a real tool and make it quicker then taking 2 steps to walk over and get something way cheaper and better for the job.
To answer your question about what I consider “heavy duty use”, I will give you a couple of examples. On location we get a lot of steel orders that are bundled with #9 wire. The Surge will rip right through those heavy gauge tie wires. I use the Surge to snap metal banding on pallets. The diamond file gets used often to dress HSS drill bits. I use the pliers to back up bolts up to 1/2” in size that I tighten with an impact on occasion. Scissors are used for mostly mundane tasks. Wire stripper gets used when I’m away from my tool trailer. Large screwdriver gets used often for opening up control panels. There are a variety of tasks that I use the Surge on in any given day. Some of those tasks can be handled by lighter duty multi tools. As far as having regular tools, I absolutely do. I do find it incredibly convenient to have my Surge on my hip at all times though. I’ll just say, paracord cutting is the least of my worries on any given day.
Question, I use my flat head screwdriver on my Leatherman sidekick as a pry tool, is the Leatherman free p4 package opener/ flat head screwdriver strong and thick enough to be used as a pry tool?
In lighter duty use, I would agree with you. However, I have found quite a few problems with the FREE series tools. If you check out my review and update videos on the P4, I outline there what I see as the problems or issues with these multi tools from a tradesman's perspective.
It’s very cool! I like the new tech! You lose the bit driver and many tools are compromised to add another flathead. Wave and Surge are still my favorites, someone else will love it though!
I’m so torn between the P4 and the Surge. I like the toolset and ergos on the P4 but I really don’t like the magnets. I need a wave or surge with the P4 tool configuration. Have you had a problem with metal shavings getting stuck to the magnets?
I have had problems with the magnets, but I also work around steel pretty much on a daily basis. Metal dust will collect against the magnets and against any of the tools that come into contact with metallic dust. It can be cleaned fairly easily with just a compressor shot of air, but it is tedious. Now if you don’t work around metal, it would probably work just fine.
I also own the leatherman surge with all the bit kits I just feel like it’s a little clunky. I looked at the P4 it did not appeared to me that robust and that the tools are much smaller then other tools. for my EDC I carry either the swisstool with the ratchet or swisstool spirit, but most of the time I carry the swisstool everywhere I go. If I decide to carry swisstool out of work I use the black slim nylon case that came with it. Just love victorinox tools.
This has solid potential. However, you can't have metal file because of magnets. Only wood file. Which is limiting from the get go. Plus... Tool selection is a big drawback. Not how I would have done it. Even the serrated blade is debatable for me. Sidekick did it the best. I never needed a full size serrated blade. They really need a 2.0 of this one. It's a nice idea, it's a looker, just seems like it was not thought out all that well.
I have it. Though I must say I don’t use it very often. My initial thoughts still hold, but I will say that I do understand the appeal of having a one hand operable multi tool. It’s just not built rugged enough for what I put multi tools through.
First, I want to start off by not liking the new Free P series at all, for reasons already stated by Ben and in his other reviews - the lack of a bit holder, respectively a mini screwdriver. There is a decisive step backwards from the development of Leatherman so far. Even adding these tools someday, this multitool will remain catchy, because it has actually offered nothing new to users other than free access to one-handed tools. As a cyclist, I need a bit holder constantly to keep my bike running, so it's not a whim. That's why I refrained from getting one. In Europe, these instruments are still overprised - new from the store retails for € 180-185. So I ordered one that was supposed to be a little used for € 105 as much as I had in the collection. When I receive it, I will share my impressions! Thanks Ben for his wish to look at this topic from around the corner!
If you need a bit driver or additional bits why a multi tool in the first place? just get a screwdriver with bits? Multi tools are just that a tool you use in a pinch if you want them to cover every situation they will always be flawed and everyone has different requirements. For me the P2 is perfect and is the tool i have pretty much been waiting fo,r a straight blade and better file would have been nice but other than that it is all good. The Machining engineering and overall finish of the Free series is something else compared to other Multi tools,
The Free P4 having a Bit-Driver would be an obvious thing to add? I owned a Wingman, Wave and Surge. The Wave mostly spoiled me because i used it for several years with its multi-bit capability. The Free P4 at $169 just a bit too expensive and without the Bit-Driver. There's a lot of reviews out there, I'll be waiting for the "after 1 year" review of the P4 and see how people think of it then.
I put the Wave and FREE P4 head to head. While the FREE has a couple of strong points, I think the Wave is the better all around multi tool. I think it boils down to how you use your multi tool. That will be the determining factor as to which one is right for you.
I have a little bit of trouble getting to my pliers one handed. I always feel like I'm doing something wrong or that I'm about to break the tool, because there's a little bit of play in the handles. How can I fix it? The pinch doesn't seem to work.
It seems unusual that they are not opening smoothly for you. I haven’t encountered that problem with these models. The play that you feel in the handles is inherent to the design, unfortunately there’s not much you can do about it.
Really like your videos! Even though I do not agree with you on the design of the P4 (I find it fugly) and to me it lacks the changeable bits... Anyway not only have you sold me on the P4 for a lightweight edc option along my surge and big swisstool but also earned my subscription! Keep up the great work!!! Greetings from France
I only carry the P4 when I need to look like less of a peasant. Otherwise I carry multitools that are actually meant to get stuff done like the Surge, Supertool 300, or Center-Drive
It would be a stretch for me to ever consider the P4 over the Surge, but I can certainly see the appeal to the P4 and why people like this new design so much.
TX Tool Crib The Surge is a tough act to follow, imo. I’m just trying to be optimistic. Haha! My Surge is the only one of all the Leatherman and Vicrorinox tools I have that has my initials engraved. That’s how much I like it. I think it’d be a tougher decision if the P4 had access to bits.
Now that is a valid point. I think a lot of people probably feel the same way. While I see other issues with the P4 and P2 on a personal level, the fact that they eliminated the bit exchanger on these models was my biggest disappointment with the new design. I really think they took a step backwards by doing that. I have heard more requests for the bit exchanger in the new FREE models than any other complaint.
TX Tool Crib I might have something up my sleeve as far as bits and the P4 go. . . Maybe. So far, I’ve been using the old Tool Adapter to give my Free access to the bits. It works well enough.
The juice blade has been ground down from the original ! I have no idea why Leatherman went with this , the original blade is legal here in the UK as the law is for none locking blade no longer than three inches cutting length, the tang is not included in the blade length! I wonder if Leatherman just cut it back to remove the delicate tip of the blade ? The y do snap very easy? I have had all the juice lines, and for me the kf4 was the worst model of the line up ,no bottle or can opener no scissors! I guess that's why it went years ago?
@@thriftshop2609 I guess my Omega Seamaster just doesn’t have those problems since it’s antimagnetic to 15,000 Gauss. But I I don’t know what I’m talking about so… 🤷♂️
@@James-zy4nc Not everybody has a Seamaster. Regardless of what you think most mechanical movement watches can and do get magnetized. I also couldn't care less what you think.
Can you imagine if Leatherman created a Wave version of this where it was all one handed opening? Think the Wave with all of the same tools and everything as the Wave+, except with magnets and the same access ability as on the Free P4.
The tool set is stunted, basic, limited. One handed??? Overrated. Gimmick. The tool set in the Wave is simply unparalleled, the serrated blade, two stage file are full length, the scissors are small and precise and sharp, then there’s the versatility of the bit driver - capable, practical, efficient, the Wave is a much better multi tool.
I agree completely. I still can’t shake the urge to give a P4 or P2 a shot. There is a gentleman, ZAP wizard, he makes a bit holder for the Free. I don’t want a Free because it offers me nothing (I think). But, I hate to be so critical of something I don’t have. I know enough about tools that I can tell a lot just by looking, but I’m right on the line as to whether it’s worth the $$ gamble. I did just order my first swisstool, a standard Spirit.
I have to agree, the wave plus is always on my belt for work. Charge in my bag with the bit kit. Skeletool/bit kit in my Jeep. The P series seems like a gimmick
You’re obviously an optimist, which is good. I’m not. I think this tool is a complete joke, made to be flashy and shiny to appeal to people with cash to burn and a lack of sense. I’m sure the non-professional wrench turning tactical dorks that generally do tool reviews and get tools for free will love it. As for us working slobs, well, we can thank you for saving us the cash to experiment with this joke of a tool.
Well thank you. Yeah a lot of reviewers are really big on these tools, without a lot of reason to be. I like to think that I provide a different perspective than the masses.
Currently it is over priced, but I'm glad I bought it. I also bought this holster which has super good retention. Check it out. ruclips.net/video/06HWSQMVE9A/видео.html
This and the other Free series is and remains the most over charged piece of Junk. Nothing more than an larger version of the Juice/Sidekick/Wingman entry level tools.
I’ll take my Juice all day over any Free. It is my least used tool but it’s actually usable. The drivers are great, in fact I like the #2 Philips on the Juice better than any other multi tool I’ve ever had except the Core.
Young punk hippie kids re engineering Leatherman tools now.... Shortening the blade? Next year the knife will be replaced with a spoon and the pliers for a tampon insertion tool... California legal proposition 69
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Hello, Jose from Puerto Rico and a new subscriber to this channel. I'm viewing this video on November 23, 2020. On this date I will receive a Leatherman P4. Having said that, the reason I subscribed to your channel was the first lines of your intro. You're a tradesman who puts tools through their paces taking them to the max. I'm not a tradesman per-say, but I do enjoy the functionality of these multi-tools. I've owned the Wave, some tools from Gerber, Victorinox and other brands I don't remember now. I currently own a Leatherman Crunch multi-tool and love that locking plier mechanism. I bought the P4 because arthritis is catching up to my hands and the one-handed design was the selling point for me. But after I pulled the trigger, I've seen lots of negative reviews on the P4. You're the only tradesman who has said positive things on this tool and it's reassuring that I didn't make a bad purchase. Like you mentioned in the first 2 sentences, not everyone is a tradesman and you're putting yourself in the place of folks who are not going to put this tool in situations that you probably do in a daily basis.I'm 64 and my hand joints are hurting. I'm also retired. So I guess not all is negative with the P4.
Most of the initial reviews were positive. I was actually both. I thought the engineering behind the FREE line was brilliant, and the tool concept was lacking. However, after hearing many stories like yours, my thinking is that there is a reasonably strong market for this series. Some people just like the new and shiny, others actually need it for what it was intended to be used for. At any rate, I’m glad that the FREE series works so well for you. I appreciate your subscription very much, and welcome aboard.
@@pylant I gave the P4 as a gift to a friend, and I got myself a Surge. The only tool I had from Victorinox was the famous multi-bladed knife that had everything but the kitchen sink. I ended up giving that to a good friend too. The Surge is my go-to EDC and I take it everywhere. I've heard the Victorinox model is very good also, but I prefer the Leatherman model. I think you can't go wrong with either one, it's just a personal preference.
Im not a tradie, I have most leatherman models, and the P4 I just love it. Its so much easier to carry in pocket over a surge. I mostly fix things around home and kids toys etc, bikes and scooters. Pliers are needed but I dont need something super heavy duty. I just love how the free opens easy one handed while holding something with other hand. Love it. If I need anything stronger then the leatherman I go to the toolbox. Multitools to me are a backup to actual tools. Great video as always.
I liked the P4. The ARC has everything we wanted in the P4 and has removed the junky file/thin drivers/short file/etc. $199 for the ARC now is a DEAL! Why? The Magnacut blade can be up to $400 in a fixed blade made US side alone. So the rest of the ARC is essentially costless perfection.
I am also a tradesman. I have all the models. The ST 300 is my go to for EDC. I have tried moving to my Surge but for some reason the weight bugs me. I think after this review I will be purchasing my 7th Leatherman and it will be the Free P4. Nice review very informative.
Appreciate your videos! No nonsense, concise, honest!!!!
And the pocket clip reigns Supreme over all others. A pocketclip should be Mandatory on every MT. The Free series clips are extremely well done.
Another Excellent Review Sir!🇺🇸
hands down, this is the BEST review of the Free P4. My favorite multitool on the market for EDC.
I have this tool on the way direct from Leatherman. It'll be added to the collection of Free T2 & P2, Signal and, MUT. The Signal is my go-to tool for now and has been for a while. I do enjoy the Free T2 as I keep that in my electrical tool bag. I enjoy your reviews as they help me decide which Leatherman I will purchase next. Thanks for the reviews.
I switched to a P4 from a charge as my EDC. I love the new design. It works well for just about everything. If they come out with an updated version with the bit driver, that would be awesome. I would get one.
Really glad it is working out for you.
ruclips.net/video/RrU_kSBGWFc/видео.html you can get a bit driver for it here , also flat ones
I've tried the p4 but went back to my charge g10. Can't stand those tiny tools and bunch of screwdrivers.
You can modify to add the bit driver
The Leatherman arc which isn't out yet is rumored to have the Leatherman bit holder
Hey bud, I just wanted to say thank you for this video. I’ve have a few Charge Plus TTI and it is my main multitool. Been eyeballing they one and wasn’t sure if I’d like it but you putting yourself in my shoes is definitely helping me
Glad I could help
Good honest review, taking a perspective outside your specific use case. I picked up the Free P4 recently and really like it so far. It's really nice to be able to get to the tools without opening the pliers up. I also have the Surge and older Wave (non plus) with the bit kit. For me, I've never had to switch the bits out often, so for now anyway, the P4 is on my hip, the Surge with extra bits in my backpack in case I do need something from the extra bits, and the Wave is in the truck. I'm an IT guy though, and woodwork in by basement shop when not in the office. I carry the P4 and Victorinox Cybertool, which is a good combo for my use case. In my shop most of the tools I need are within a few feet of me.
It was being in IT though why I started carry a multitool. I found I needed something handy to loosen and tighten retention screws on switch modules, etc in the datacenter (for instance). I've carried one ever since. - Jim
Jim, I appreciate you sharing your perspective. It sounds like you have found yourself a very solid combination with the P4 and Cybertool. My perspective is from an industrial application, hence the reason I tend to gravitate more to heavier duty multi tools and tools in general for that matter. I appreciate you taking the time to comment and for watching. I hope you'll take the time to view some of my other videos as well.
TX Tool Crib you bet! I hit the sub button after watching this.
Got my first Free P4 and I really liked it. As i was unboxing it i brought out my other multitools and i could say is it is a well made mt compared to others but ofcourse there are some tools here that are not really awesome but it works.
I would add that when the P4 is clipped on my front pocket it is thinner, so my hand can more easily get to other things in my pocket. Also, the handles do not show scratches on the surface like most other multi-tools. The only modification I have made to my P4 is that I ground down the back edge of the awl into a point.
Also, Clay Hayes used and abused his P4 in season 8 of the survival show 'Alone'. And he still uses the same P4 in very hard circumstances to this day. I has held up like a champ. And the knife is fun and easy to deploy and use. Kudos to Leatherman!
Mine arrived a few days ago. Completely happy! One handed ops, fingernails not needed (they get brittle as you get older, despite denial)... Lighter than my Surge so it's my EDC now. Surge stays in the car. Made in the USA! Great review of a multi-tool from the premium multi-tool company. Did i mention the one-handed design?
Lol, sounds like it was the right fit for you.
Hvac guy myself, but I think actually a multitool is very suited for HVAC units. Aside from cutting pipe,the leatherman with the hacksaw could prob handle that too. and backing out the main refrigerant valves. Which I've found the Gerber centerdrive can sometimes do with a bit - socket adapter. You can fully access and service most units with just a multitool and a multimeter.
Good review as well, that's a nice looking tool
Thank you, and thanks for taking the time to comment. I appreciate you taking the time to watch and hope you enjoy some of my other videos as well.
That was an excellent and comprehensive review!!
I'm very happy with the P4. Great review, thanks.
Sorry for the late reply, and thank you.
Don't know about functionality, I think its most nice looking multi-tool
It is aesthetically pleasing, but I don’t think it’s as functional as some less expensive multi tools.
I love my P4 the tool set is ideal for me, the only thing I didn’t get was why it didn’t come with a pocket clip but that’s all sorted now thanks to their customer service. Great review as always!!! 👍🙂
Thank you. What makes the P4 the best fit for you? I felt like the tool set in this multi tool was not worth the $140 price tag. I would imagine that the ease of use plays a big part in why you like it so much.
Well in my case it won’t get hard use and it’s light and easy to carry. I like the scissors, box opener and the blade also all the tools are easily accessible. I agree with you on the price but I guess it’s to do with the magnetic architecture.
That seems a little far-fetched for me. Magnets don’t cost that much. The magnets that are going into these multi tools are pretty weak as well, so I wouldn’t think it should affect the price that much. I think leatherman is just trying to maximize their profit because of the new styling of this tool. But then again that’s just a personal opinion.
@@txtoolcrib i just bought a free p4. I have victorinox spirit X, victorinox swisstool, 2nd gen wave, Charge TTi with bits kit, SOG powerassist & gerber suspension. Among all these, including the p4, i prefer the feel of the spirit X. I am just a collector, and i hardly use any of them. If i really want to EDC, i would still prefer the spirit X. Having say that, free p4 is good, and i can live without the bit adapter. a USD 140 price tag is still a lot cheaper than the its price in Malaysia. Just for info, Retail price for a charge tti+ with bit kit can easily cost more than USD250.00
@@nitric75 agree with you.. we in Malaysia have to pay more for leatherman, but for 3 years use my Surge every day as my EDC I'm very happy so far,Love their main blade,pliers,scissors, awl and exchangeable saw and files..now I survey for new leatherman charge tti plus or P4 for my EDC.but I think more interested to charge tti plus 😊
Thank you for this insightful video! I recently broke my wingman and while warranty might fix it, I can’t help to itch for a new multitool haha.
I completely understand that.
Well I love my wave+, as a mechanical engineer I appreciate the free series. But I feel like the engineers there were trying to shove this out the door or were basically rushed by advertisement management to get this thing done
I’m not sure what the new line of thinking at Leatherman is. I definitely believe they missed the mark on these new lines of tool though.
This man is correct ; a lot of people do not have a commercial.use for a multi tool. Im a limo wine tour driver. A good user friendly tool is real helpful. Free P4 has nice advancements; hello!
Added a bit exchanger and removable surge file to my P4, now it’s a perfect EDC for me
I used the awl once. I tried to make a peg hole bigger in a medicine cabinet made of fiberboard. Is that too much to expect? I didn't think so. Snap, the mini screwdriver broke. It didn’t bend, it snapped off. I didn’t use a lot of pressure either. Add $15 in shipping to the $140 and it’s covered. I never had to use a Leatherman warranty, and I have a PST, Signal, Surge and MUT. I had to use it for the P4 after 30 days. I’m not sure how I’ll use it now. My 30 year old PST is still working fine.
No, you're right. That shouldn't be too much to expect. That is unfortunate. I have been cautiously optimistic about this awl design from the beginning. I actually greatly prefer the Rebar awl to the new P-series tools.
Excellent review. You explained the benefits for a different kind of user. Very good idea. We are in the "golden age" for guns, multi-tools, bikes etc. Multi tools have so many categories that different types of people ,men/women, will have tools that specifically fit their needs. I think you should keep this type of "user category" for future reviews. Your expertise would help people buy the right tool the first time.(Until you become addicted)Lol
That's actually a really good idea. I will probably be using that suggestion.
Hi,
Just a quick update about the package opener on P2/P4. I have slightly modified mine, which seems to have improved it a lot. It is still not great, but the fix was very easy to do and the effect was appreciable. Part of the problem seems to have been that piercing the material you want to cut was difficult. This makes sense because if you look closely, the point you’d naturally use for piercing e.g. clamshell packaging is actually very rounded. By making the whole implement about a millimetre or so shorter, you remove that rounded edge which leaves a more acute point. I simply used my Dremel to do this, and that helped a lot. Will now use it for some time to see if further modification is necessary.
Excellent, I understand exactly what you mean. I might give that a try myself.
@@txtoolcrib I’ve now tried this fix for a few days, and it has been so good that I have concluded no further modification is needed.
I’m not sure I want to say the package opener now is as good as the Wingman’s, but it is actually useful as a package opener. I’m amazed at how much of a difference this tiny tweak made (for me).
It’d be interesting to hear your experience with this fix?
My biggest complaint with this one is the price. It's a hard sell to convince me that this tool is worth $40-ish more than the Wave + or $20-ish more than the Surge. Even the Charge + at the same price would be more compelling to me. I certainly appreciate you trying to look at the other side, but I just don't see the value compared to their other models. It seems like a Wingman redesigned with magnets.
The one major thing I do like is the Free series has straight sides like the Rebar and ST (my personal favorites due to the compact size vs their function). I don't particularly care for the top of the blade protruding, but the handle shape is nice. There... that's my attempt at finding something I like about them... it's all I got and it kinda hurt. lol
Lol. Thanks for trying.
I can open my Surge one handed easily. One hand all the inside tools too. Smooth as well.
Hey Ben bought leatherman free p4 this multi tool is awesome it's so easy to use
Are you using it as your EDC?
I work maintenance and hvac... this review helped. I have a Surge right now. I always want to upgraded my game and since I have a carry tool bag, i think i will consider trying this to save time for quick work orders. Using the surge to change bit and a bit extender, wire strippers, can opener, blah blah. I could just walk to my bag get my proper tools. Im not sure how you use your Surge for "heavy" applications ( big jobs you have your tools with you and power) but I see you point. All those jobs cutting paracord, putting in hookers screws, cutting rope, and opening up a can of tuna fish. If your really on that leatherman surge for "heavy applications" either you take way to long to do your job and give poor product or you dont have tools and still take too long to do your project. Never used the P4 but quick accessibility with fast centered motion is what's needed for a multi tool. And please spring load all of them. Figure out how to use that magnetic shit to do it. Grip is horrible. I love my Surge though. I just wish i didnt have to have more pockets to carry other shit to compensate. Make every tool work like a real tool and make it quicker then taking 2 steps to walk over and get something way cheaper and better for the job.
To answer your question about what I consider “heavy duty use”, I will give you a couple of examples. On location we get a lot of steel orders that are bundled with #9 wire. The Surge will rip right through those heavy gauge tie wires. I use the Surge to snap metal banding on pallets. The diamond file gets used often to dress HSS drill bits. I use the pliers to back up bolts up to 1/2” in size that I tighten with an impact on occasion. Scissors are used for mostly mundane tasks. Wire stripper gets used when I’m away from my tool trailer. Large screwdriver gets used often for opening up control panels. There are a variety of tasks that I use the Surge on in any given day. Some of those tasks can be handled by lighter duty multi tools. As far as having regular tools, I absolutely do. I do find it incredibly convenient to have my Surge on my hip at all times though. I’ll just say, paracord cutting is the least of my worries on any given day.
@@txtoolcrib my man
Oh how I wish the p4 had the bit exchanger and the saw/file like the surge. For "me" that's why surge is KING
Awesome demonstration thank you
Absolutely, thank you for watching.
Question, I use my flat head screwdriver on my Leatherman sidekick as a pry tool, is the Leatherman free p4 package opener/ flat head screwdriver strong and thick enough to be used as a pry tool?
My only real complaint regarding the FREE P2 and P4 is the price tag, otherwise theyre fine. Though I do question the longevity of the magnets.
In lighter duty use, I would agree with you. However, I have found quite a few problems with the FREE series tools. If you check out my review and update videos on the P4, I outline there what I see as the problems or issues with these multi tools from a tradesman's perspective.
It’s very cool! I like the new tech! You lose the bit driver and many tools are compromised to add another flathead. Wave and Surge are still my favorites, someone else will love it though!
Ford me the Best is the VICTORINOX SPIRIT MX
Finally a trade's pov. Could you please make an about like this about the p4,the charge tti and the surge?
I love my P4, sometimes guys overthink this stuff. I personally don’t like using my finger nail to open tools. That’s why I use the P4 exclusively.
I’m so torn between the P4 and the Surge. I like the toolset and ergos on the P4 but I really don’t like the magnets. I need a wave or surge with the P4 tool configuration. Have you had a problem with metal shavings getting stuck to the magnets?
I have had problems with the magnets, but I also work around steel pretty much on a daily basis. Metal dust will collect against the magnets and against any of the tools that come into contact with metallic dust. It can be cleaned fairly easily with just a compressor shot of air, but it is tedious. Now if you don’t work around metal, it would probably work just fine.
Get both tools ; surge and Free P4
I also own the leatherman surge with all the bit kits I just feel like it’s a little clunky. I looked at the P4 it did not appeared to me that robust and that the tools are much smaller then other tools. for my EDC I carry either the swisstool with the ratchet or swisstool spirit, but most of the time I carry the swisstool everywhere I go. If I decide to carry swisstool out of work I use the black slim nylon case that came with it. Just love victorinox tools.
You’ll never hear me complain about the quality of Victorinox, they make some really great products.
This has solid potential. However, you can't have metal file because of magnets. Only wood file. Which is limiting from the get go. Plus... Tool selection is a big drawback. Not how I would have done it. Even the serrated blade is debatable for me. Sidekick did it the best. I never needed a full size serrated blade. They really need a 2.0 of this one. It's a nice idea, it's a looker, just seems like it was not thought out all that well.
Hi sir... watching after a year.. do you still have the p4? What’s your thoughts after a year of usage?
I have it. Though I must say I don’t use it very often. My initial thoughts still hold, but I will say that I do understand the appeal of having a one hand operable multi tool. It’s just not built rugged enough for what I put multi tools through.
Great review
Thank you.
I've heard that the can opener acts as a very good package opener on wave plus.
First, I want to start off by not liking the new Free P series at all, for reasons already stated by Ben and in his other reviews - the lack of a bit holder, respectively a mini screwdriver. There is a decisive step backwards from the development of Leatherman so far. Even adding these tools someday, this multitool will remain catchy, because it has actually offered nothing new to users other than free access to one-handed tools. As a cyclist, I need a bit holder constantly to keep my bike running, so it's not a whim. That's why I refrained from getting one. In Europe, these instruments are still overprised - new from the store retails for € 180-185. So I ordered one that was supposed to be a little used for € 105 as much as I had in the collection. When I receive it, I will share my impressions! Thanks Ben for his wish to look at this topic from around the corner!
Would appreciate your feedback.
If you need a bit driver or additional bits why a multi tool in the first place? just get a screwdriver with bits? Multi tools are just that a tool you use in a pinch if you want them to cover every situation they will always be flawed and everyone has different requirements. For me the P2 is perfect and is the tool i have pretty much been waiting fo,r a straight blade and better file would have been nice but other than that it is all good. The Machining engineering and overall finish of the Free series is something else compared to other Multi tools,
The Free P4 having a Bit-Driver would be an obvious thing to add? I owned a Wingman, Wave and Surge. The Wave mostly spoiled me because i used it for several years with its multi-bit capability. The Free P4 at $169 just a bit too expensive and without the Bit-Driver. There's a lot of reviews out there, I'll be waiting for the "after 1 year" review of the P4 and see how people think of it then.
I put the Wave and FREE P4 head to head. While the FREE has a couple of strong points, I think the Wave is the better all around multi tool. I think it boils down to how you use your multi tool. That will be the determining factor as to which one is right for you.
I have a little bit of trouble getting to my pliers one handed. I always feel like I'm doing something wrong or that I'm about to break the tool, because there's a little bit of play in the handles. How can I fix it? The pinch doesn't seem to work.
It seems unusual that they are not opening smoothly for you. I haven’t encountered that problem with these models. The play that you feel in the handles is inherent to the design, unfortunately there’s not much you can do about it.
I have the impression that the arms loosen up and can't open/close as intended. Am I wrong?
Why do you have that impression? I have had mine for over two years and everything continues to work fine.
I will keep my surge is amazing with some modifications obviously 😹 thanks man
I agree.
That's only 2 reasons I can think of : 1) wow, something new, & 2) wow, magnets. That's it.
Really like your videos! Even though I do not agree with you on the design of the P4 (I find it fugly) and to me it lacks the changeable bits... Anyway not only have you sold me on the P4 for a lightweight edc option along my surge and big swisstool but also earned my subscription! Keep up the great work!!! Greetings from France
Thank you very much for your subscription. It is very much appreciated.
Do you plan to do an update video on it later on?
I do plan on doing at update on the P4 at a later date.
Is there a site that's sells higher end blade steels for the Surge to replace the 420 garbage?
Not anymore. There used to be, but I’m pretty sure Leatherman sued them.
I only carry the P4 when I need to look like less of a peasant. Otherwise I carry multitools that are actually meant to get stuff done like the Surge, Supertool 300, or Center-Drive
Lol, I hear ya.
Did you got your hands on the charge tti+ ?
Well done 👌
Thank you.
Just wish the had the tweezers in this and would have been perfect
Very well said
Thank you
Do magnets 🧲 lose their strength over time
The Leatherman OHT can be opened with one hand, thus the name, but it is a POS. The Free P2 and P4 are dang near Perfect!
I think perfect is a stretch from my perspective, but I'm glad it works for you.
They screwed up with no exchangeable tips
Lot of people feel the same way.
Totally agree with ya here. The P4 is growing more and more on me. Might even end up liking it more than my Surge. . . Maybe.
It would be a stretch for me to ever consider the P4 over the Surge, but I can certainly see the appeal to the P4 and why people like this new design so much.
TX Tool Crib The Surge is a tough act to follow, imo. I’m just trying to be optimistic. Haha!
My Surge is the only one of all the Leatherman and Vicrorinox tools I have that has my initials engraved. That’s how much I like it.
I think it’d be a tougher decision if the P4 had access to bits.
Now that is a valid point. I think a lot of people probably feel the same way. While I see other issues with the P4 and P2 on a personal level, the fact that they eliminated the bit exchanger on these models was my biggest disappointment with the new design. I really think they took a step backwards by doing that. I have heard more requests for the bit exchanger in the new FREE models than any other complaint.
TX Tool Crib I might have something up my sleeve as far as bits and the P4 go. . . Maybe.
So far, I’ve been using the old Tool Adapter to give my Free access to the bits. It works well enough.
The juice blade has been ground down from the original ! I have no idea why Leatherman went with this , the original blade is legal here in the UK as the law is for none locking blade no longer than three inches cutting length, the tang is not included in the blade length!
I wonder if Leatherman just cut it back to remove the delicate tip of the blade ? The y do snap very easy?
I have had all the juice lines, and for me the kf4 was the worst model of the line up ,no bottle or can opener no scissors!
I guess that's why it went years ago?
The magnets are what you should have brought up first. Anyone that wears a automatic watch does not need this source of magnetism close to them.
I agree, magnets in a multi tool are a no go for me.
It has a very low level of magnetism. Not enough to magnetize a watch in most cases. Just don’t rest them on each other and you’re fine.
@@James-zy4nc Incorrect, I'm a watch nut, you don't know what you're talking about.
@@thriftshop2609 I guess my Omega Seamaster just doesn’t have those problems since it’s antimagnetic to 15,000 Gauss. But I I don’t know what I’m talking about so… 🤷♂️
@@James-zy4nc Not everybody has a Seamaster. Regardless of what you think most mechanical movement watches can and do get magnetized. I also couldn't care less what you think.
Surge is the best hands down.
It’s the one I carry. I definitely carry it for a reason.
Can you imagine if Leatherman created a Wave version of this where it was all one handed opening? Think the Wave with all of the same tools and everything as the Wave+, except with magnets and the same access ability as on the Free P4.
To bad the pliers aren't spring loaded
only reason wave is better because it has the eyeglass screwdriver and the replacable bit driver!
I offer a few more reasons why I think the Wave is the better multi tool in this video.
ruclips.net/video/AnJvuhn69WI/видео.html
How these are not compatible with the bit kits, is beyond me. What a fail.
The tool set is stunted, basic, limited.
One handed??? Overrated. Gimmick.
The tool set in the Wave is simply unparalleled, the serrated blade, two stage file are full length, the scissors are small and precise and sharp, then there’s the versatility of the bit driver - capable, practical, efficient, the Wave is a much better multi tool.
I agree completely. I still can’t shake the urge to give a P4 or P2 a shot. There is a gentleman, ZAP wizard, he makes a bit holder for the Free. I don’t want a Free because it offers me nothing (I think). But, I hate to be so critical of something I don’t have. I know enough about tools that I can tell a lot just by looking, but I’m right on the line as to whether it’s worth the $$ gamble.
I did just order my first swisstool, a standard Spirit.
I much prefer the Leatherman Wave as well.
I have to agree, the wave plus is always on my belt for work. Charge in my bag with the bit kit. Skeletool/bit kit in my Jeep. The P series seems like a gimmick
You need to win the lotto to afford it just to expensive .....................
You’re obviously an optimist, which is good. I’m not. I think this tool is a complete joke, made to be flashy and shiny to appeal to people with cash to burn and a lack of sense. I’m sure the non-professional wrench turning tactical dorks that generally do tool reviews and get tools for free will love it. As for us working slobs, well, we can thank you for saving us the cash to experiment with this joke of a tool.
Well thank you. Yeah a lot of reviewers are really big on these tools, without a lot of reason to be. I like to think that I provide a different perspective than the masses.
free designer should be sent to china
Currently it is over priced, but I'm glad I bought it. I also bought this holster which has super good retention. Check it out. ruclips.net/video/06HWSQMVE9A/видео.html
Nice holster.
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My wife would probably agree with you.
This and the other Free series is and remains the most over charged piece of Junk. Nothing more than an larger version of the Juice/Sidekick/Wingman entry level tools.
I’ll take my Juice all day over any Free. It is my least used tool but it’s actually usable. The drivers are great, in fact I like the #2 Philips on the Juice better than any other multi tool I’ve ever had except the Core.
I know there are varying opinions, but I also find them quite lacking for their high price tag.
Definitely not worth the $149 they are charging for it.
Young punk hippie kids re engineering Leatherman tools now.... Shortening the blade? Next year the knife will be replaced with a spoon and the pliers for a tampon insertion tool... California legal proposition 69
Lol, I don't know if it will come to that.
You speak so much, blah blah blah and nothing
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I would honestly prefer the wingman or suspension nxt; both I can use a bit ugly no concerns price side (muck or dirty jobs).
I understand what you mean.
Pass; I would rather the rebar/supertool 300.
You like the classic style? Nothing wrong with that, they are great tools.