This scene portrays the early days of the war (summer 1861) when the Confederate forces were just beginning to form. Gray uniforms had not been widely distributed throughout the ranks just yet. Because Jackson and Stuart both served with the U.S. Army before their state (Virginia) seceded, they are wearing the only military uniforms they had at that time which would've been the U.S./Union uniform.
it was very impressive that they adhered to that historical distinction as well as accurately portraying how Jackson was only a Colonel at this point. He had gained that rank after complaining to the Governor of Virginia when his first appointment in the south was as a Major of Topographical Engineers.
@@abrahamlincoln9758 He was appointed a colonel of infantry volunteers by the governor of Virginia. The regular Confederate army made him a major of topographic engineers. He later held permanent rank as major of artillery after he was a lieutenant general in the provisional Confederate army
@Ryan McDoogal he did and it's shown in the Directors cut. In real life I read that Jackson wore the new uniform on the day of Fredricksburg and pretty much astounded everyone including Lee and Longstreet.
Jackson was a stone wall in more ways than one. He was about as rigidly disciplined a man in his behaviors as you'd ever see, and he had some pretty odd behaviors.
A great actor like Lang can make you believe he actually is a cur like Ike Clanton in Tombstone or a great General like Stonewall Jackson in Gods and Generals. Only a very talented actor can make you love or hate him depending on the role he plays.
Stonewall Jackson was a rather unpopular commander amongst his own men. He was known as a very stern and straightforward commander, due to this him and the combative AP Hill despised one another, and Ewell respected him, but wasn't close to him. Jackson would grow easily frustrated if his orders were not followed exactly as given, and for Stuart to maintain a close friendship with Jackson really says something. Coincidentally the two died almost exactly one year apart with Jackson passing away on May 10, 1863 and Stuart on May 12, 1864.
Thomas Jackson has many parallels to Marshal Davout - the Iron Marshal. He too was disliked by other generals, particularly high class ones, for his cold and aloof personality. He preferred family life over status and intrigue. He was tough and firm with his men, had a demanding set of standards and expected of them a lot. But he led them to victory after victory against all odds and was probably the most talented and able leader amongst Napoleon's highly gifted officers. Including pulling off a near miraculous victory with just a single corps against the entire main Prussian Army at the Battle of Auerstädt.
Stonewall Jackson was a strange, quirky man to say the least. He had a habit of eating lemons on the battlefield, and was also often seen raising one of his hands in the air above his head to help 'stimulate circulation.' In his personal study at his house at VMI there were no chairs, as Jackson believed that sitting down while reading hampered the brain's ability to absorb the material being read. But as a commander on the field he was one of the best. He was shrewd, dedicated and unrelenting, believing that once you made contact with the enemy you went at him with everything you had, and when he ran you put just as much effort into the pursuit as you did the battle. If he had been alive at Gettysburg I think things would have turned out differently. And if Stuart had been doing his job instead of showboating to get his name in the papers, Gettysburg wouldn't have happened at all because Lee would have known what was in front of him and not engaged.
@@traveller4790 It is often believed that he has ASD or OCD, he displayed many odd symptoms - Creature of habit - Obsessive over interest - Grew easily frustrated if his system was messed with - Freakishly worried about his health - Very specific about the way he wanted things done - Reserved and kept to himself - Never really cared to make new friends
@@traveller4790 I definitely think we see a lot of this with the symptoms you noted, but also his extremely tense relationship with his subordinate officers like General Gregg and General Hill.
@@briangulley6027 it's a bit confusing I originally thought your palm up meant your country had lost a war against an invader and palm down meant you haven't lost a war on your soil but I guess that's a myth like the one originating with it resembling Knights opening their visors.
charles neely what a pity you have no sense of due respect for those, who unlike you, fought heroically in a cruel war and once again, unlike you, remain to the end of time in history
As much as I love this movie, and Gettysburg aswell, I can from experience tell you all that watching both movies (the extended versions at that) back to back in one sitting is not advisable. +9 hours of movie in one go = brain well and truly fried
Unfortunately, he didn't foresee his death from one of his own sentries the night he returned from a reconnaissance patrol. It was the nail in the coffin for the Confederacy. That night they lost everything. Jackson was the South's most valuable general, and I really do believe that if he had been at the Battle of Gettysburg Lee would have won the battle, because Jackson would have talked Lee down from the insanity of Pickett's charge.
@@jebbroham1776 Completely agree with your assessment. People either don't know or seem to forget that Stonewall died only a few weeks before the Gettysburg Campaign began in the summer of 1863. Unable to even enjoy the great victory at Chancellorsville because losing Jackson there made it a pyrrhic victory. Would've obviously been better to lose the battle and not the man. After the doctors tried to save Stonewall's life by amputating his arm: “He has lost his left arm...but I have lost my right.” -REL. Lee held no one's counsel in higher regard. He respected and valued Longstreet, but his aforementioned nickname for Jackson vs calling Longstreet his "old warhorse" should perfectly illustrate the difference. Lee also had not yet lost a battle he personally commanded, and sometimes that in and of itself is a negative when the only person who could've reigned you in perished shortly before.
There's a television recording from 1953 on RUclips of an interview of someone who was at Ford's Theatre when Lincoln was assassinated. He was on *television.* Unbelievable.
@@abrahamlincoln9758 That man, Samuel Seymour, built the earliest houses in a neighborhood near me: Herald Harbor in Crownsville, Maryland. Ford's Theater has stated recently that they do not believe Mr. Seymour's story. He died at 96, but never started mentioning the story until he was 94. The cannot place him, or the 2 women he was with there that night. The theater used a sign-in book, but their names did not appear in it.
I was very glad to see that they got most of the actors from "Gettysburg" to reprise their roles in "Gods and Generals" even though the latter was made some time after the former. The actor who plays Stuart was, I think, a perfect choice. I also think that Stephen Lang was perfect for both roles he played, both as General George Pickett and General Thomas Jackson. But I'm glad they didn't have Martin Sheen portray General Lee again. I think Robert Duvall - who is actually related to Lee - did a MUCH better job.
No way dude… Sheen was by far a better Lee. His mannerisms, accuracy of speech and accent as well as candor went lengths and bounds beyond that of Duvall. And don’t get it twisted, I still believe Robert Duvall to be one of the better actors the past 50 years. It’s also a shame they didn’t bring back Tom Berenger for Longstreet. He nailed that role in Gettysburg perfectly.
@@LicardoDeBousee I disagree. I'm from Virginia and I'll tell you that Sheen's attempt at a Southern accent was nothing short of atrocious. Lee was a soft-spoken commander, and the only time anyone could recall him losing his temper and lashing out at one of his officers was at Gettysburg when he blew up on Stuart (who had it coming). Both actors had Lee's physical traits/actions down pat, but in my opinion Duvall was the much better portrayal of this great American.
I don't see Jackson as a guy who would talk politics at all to another officer, especially J.E.B. Stuart. But Jackson holding up the Bible saying, proverbiably, 'this is the answer' is definitely up Jackson's alley.
Not to mention Avatar, Terra Nova, Salem, Into the Badlands, etc... Almost every role I can think he's played has been military or some sort of warrior.
One romantic legend has it that today’s military salute descended from the medieval knight's gesture of raising his visor to reveal his identity as a courtesy on the approach of a superior. Another even more fantastic version is that it symbolizes a knight's shielding his eyes from the dazzling beauty of some high-born lady sitting in the bleachers of the tournament.
Sounds very romantic but almost certainly wrong. It was a gesture as an alternative to removing your hat and first recorded in 1745 since hats had become large and very ornamental. If based on the visor, funny how it skipped a few centuries.
Jackson was right, we should have made the war so horrific for the north that they'd come begging us to end it. The problem was that the south fought with honor and the north didn't, and that's why we lost.
General Jackson was under no illusion about the realities of war. He had experienced it already and he wanted it to be over as quickly as possible. He shocked others when he said these things but he was right. He was surrounded by people with a civilian background who thought it would all end in a glorious calvalry charge. He was tough on his men but he did get results.
tonyrosam Wrong, man must have honor in war you must have bravery and zeal. Clearly sir you have never been on a battlefield. I have killed many men in Afghanistan and I'm glad I did.
Now, I WILL say that I believe that the Southern armies...particularly the ANV...fought gallantly against overwhelming odds and, for the most part, out-Generaled the Northern armies. James Longstreet was correct, though: Lee cost the South the war by his actions at Gettysburg. He should have sent Longstreet's 1st Corp to Vicksburg, like Longstreet requested. Dorsey Pender's wife was correct in her assertion that the invasion of the North was a huge mistake. Religion was her concern.
These two men would both be dead before the war ended. Jackson was a victim of fratricide at Chancellorsville and Stuart died in a cavalry battle the following year. There is much debate over how the war (especially Gettysburg) would have progressed had Jackson lived. This film is good, but Stephen Lang is great, as he is in just about all of his work.
I didn't think the film was very good. It tried to cover 4 major battles with one movie. That just doesn't work. You can't cover so many battles in one film, even a 4 hour one.
Too bad Forrest was a senseless butcher whose men murdered over 200 unarmed black POW’s and Tennessee Tories during the Fort Pillow Massacre in 1864… the only legacy he should have is one of a ruthless, white-supremacist barbarian.
You do know Jackson was possibly one of the strongest Christians in an army full of Christians? That while he owned slaves he thought it the master's Christian duty to love them and treat them with nothing but respect. He was a man of his time, and saw that the bible did not condemn slavery, so he did not think it his place to question the God he strongly believed in. Be careful about applying modern morals to historical figures.
Let me add to what I just said about Stephen Lang. I believe that learning how to act can often be gleaned from just watching the performances of other actors. I've kept mental list of such great performances: Alistair Simm in Scrooge, Ron Moody in Oliver, F. Murray Abraham in Amadeus, in Gladiator the trio of Richard Harris, Oliver Reed, and Russell Crowe, Stephen Lang in Gods and Generals, Heath Ledger in Batman, and Hugh Jackman in Les Miserables. There are far many more but these I've selected and my favourite male acting performances.
The following explanation of the origin of the hand salute is perhaps closest to the truth: It was a long-established military custom for juniors to remove their headgear in the presence of superiors. In the British Army as late as the American Revolution a soldier saluted bv removing his hat.
@M Zach JEB wasn't doing his job and scouting the area for good ground to fight Lee didn't have the home field advantage and didn't get help from southern farmers/soldiers like previous battles, and lee was lost at gettysburg he didn't know if he should advance after the union retreat so they wouldn't have time to dig in on those heights and other strategic defences
ORIGIN OF THE HAND SALUTE No one knows the precise origin of today’s hand salute. From earliest times and in many distant armies throughout history, the right hand (or "weapon hand") has been raised as a greeting of friendship. The idea may have been to show that you weren't ready to use a rock or other weapon. Courtesy required that the inferior make the gesture first. Certainly there is some connection between this old gesture and our present salute.
or public option of the Confederacy ways of making war would have become negative, an thus making it even harder for them to get support from the outside which they really needed.
Luigi, Sir I agree with your intent, although even the lowest of humans can be saved from that eternal damnation. Let us pray that this young man finds that truth out before our heavenly father takes him home for his judgement.....
Can you imagine getting into a time machine and landing right beside the two of them, you take with you a ballistic helmet, a kevlar vest, night vision goggles, M4A1 with an M203 Grenade Launcher, AK-47, AA-12 full auto shotgun, M1911, an M249 SAW, an AT4 and some frag grenades. Just the look of shock and awe in the faces of Stonewall Jackson and JEB Stuart, top that off with a smartphone.
+Glaber Marian US Cavalry was not outdated, it was as advanced as anywhere in the world. Before the machine gun, Cavalry got Spencer repeating rifles, to supplement large caliber repeating handguns. Sheridan said Cavalry was just infantry with 4 detachable legs.
+DonMeaker very few regiments of cavalry were equipped with repeating rifles. If your referring to mounted infantry(primarily approaching and dismounting and forming a line of battle)i believe stuart's unit was dragoons mostly used for scouting and sometimes used for melee charge PS i said during a war that was outdated tactically, i never said cavalry was outdated read it again
It was the first Total war in Modern times Honor of armies only fighting each other was sacrificed in this war and the worlds been sliding toward anarchy ever since
Lincoln was elected without one single southern state. He wasn't even on the ballot in several. Do you understand what this means? That is the very definition of "without representation." The most radical of 4 candidates winning without 1 southern state. How many states were there? And let's not tell tails here about Lincoln or the Republicans wanting to make blacks free and equal. This war was about Hamiltonian economics, central banking, Federalist vs Anti Federalist. This was about power.
@@DaManBearPig How exactly did the Confederates betray the states? It was the North that invaded the South first. Learn about history before arguing against it.
"they just didnt like being told they couldnt own slaves." Yet this was years before the emancipation proclomation. Also whatever the reason for secession is irrelevant. If a state wishes to relieve itself from the union as it believes it to be wither corrupt or too over-bearing then they have the right to do so. That's what the United States was originally, a confederacy of united independent states.
yup that's why russian have great beards all the time, Russia is freaking cold most of the time, even though I still love russia, so that's why russian must have at least a short beard
I don't mind real beards. What I'm saying is I still cringe every time I see Longstreet's in 'Gettysburg'. Stephen Lang's is probably real, just because he's an awesome actor.
So, JEB Stuart addresses Jackson as “Colonel Jackson” for much of the conversation, and Jackson addresses Stuart as “General Stuart”, even though he was introduced as “Lt. Colonel”????
History is written by the victors. The War of northern aggression, was a culmination of events that started in 1824. The southern states were large consumers of manufactured goods, and producers of raw goods. The north wanted to force the south to purchase their goods at higher prices, rather than import the same goods from Great Britain and Europe for a lower price. Having a numerical advantage in congress, they began passing oppressive tariffs on imported goods that the south needed. They also raised the tariffs on any exported goods the south tried to sell to Europe, therefore forcing the south to sell their goods to the north at lower prices. By the 1840's, 65% of all federal tariff revenue came from the southern states. This further enriched the north, while bankrupting the already less wealthy south. In 1861, at the outbreak of war, the South was paying 86% of all federal tariff revenue. This was unsustainable for the southern states. Oppressive taxation, without representation was the cause of the civil war. Sounds oddly familiar to our war of independence of 1776. In 1861, the act of succession was protected in the constitution as a counterbalance to a overreaching central government. Lincoln could not lose his "cash cow" southern states. The north and federal government had grown extremely wealthy off of the backs of Dixie. This war was never about slavery. Only 1.5% of the entire Southern population owned slaves, and some of those were black as well. The emancipation proclamation wasn't signed until 1863, 2 years into the war. It was only done, to prevent Great Britain and France from entering the war on the side of the south. Lincoln also said that he would allow slavery in the south, if it would save the union. It only freed slaves in the south, while the northern states still retained their slaves. Black and white fought for the confederacy. Unlike the northern black regiments, that were segregated and paid less, black confederate soldiers received the same pay as their white counterparts. The units were also mostly integrated as well. After the war, Lincoln had plans to ship all of the blacks back to Africa to the newly established nation of Liberia. There is so much more to this story. Sadly, no one cares anymore about the truth, just what is politically expedient. "Sic semper tyrannis"
This is the stupidest thing ever uttered by a person. The South was smaller, poorer, and agrarian. The amount consumers the South had were infinitesimal compared to the North. The North was more than two times the size of the South, wealthier, and had a far more advanced economy. The South was backward economically and culturally. The war was about soccer as even the Confederates themselves admitted. Anyone who says otherwise is purposefully ignoring the words of the Secessionists themselves. The audacity of you to present ahistorical claptrap as truth impresses. You would make Goebbels proud.
+wolverineeagle Yes the South was agrarian, much smaller and less populated, and less wealthy than the North. Nevertheless, the South paid 3/5 of all the taxes and tariffs levied by the Federal government. And the slaves they purchased were not only heavily taxed by the Federal Government since they were viewed as property, they were also sold by the slave traders of Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Maine. Next time, try basing your posts on facts rather than biased opinion!
Stephen Lang - one of the most underrated actors of all time !!
This scene portrays the early days of the war (summer 1861) when the Confederate forces were just beginning to form. Gray uniforms had not been widely distributed throughout the ranks just yet. Because Jackson and Stuart both served with the U.S. Army before their state (Virginia) seceded, they are wearing the only military uniforms they had at that time which would've been the U.S./Union uniform.
As is the pants
it was very impressive that they adhered to that historical distinction as well as accurately portraying how Jackson was only a Colonel at this point. He had gained that rank after complaining to the Governor of Virginia when his first appointment in the south was as a Major of Topographical Engineers.
Jackson is wearing a Colonel's shoulder straps. I thought he was a Major in the reg? Perhaps he found some to use?
@@abrahamlincoln9758 He was appointed a colonel of infantry volunteers by the governor of Virginia. The regular Confederate army made him a major of topographic engineers. He later held permanent rank as major of artillery after he was a lieutenant general in the provisional Confederate army
@@zekeigtos7240 A major in the Virginia Militia?
Like the fact that Jackson and Stuart were actually very good friends and that Stuart was was the only one who could get Jackson to laugh in public.
@Ryan McDoogal he did and it's shown in the Directors cut. In real life I read that Jackson wore the new uniform on the day of Fredricksburg and pretty much astounded everyone including Lee and Longstreet.
Stephen Lang never disappoints. I’ve seen so much of his acting and never realized it was him until I rewatch. He is superb.
He also plays pickett in Gettysburg. Still though, my favorite role of him is still Avatar, he was born to play that role!
@@JagerFrostTroll yeah he played a good bad guy. I also like him in men who stare at goats and of course Ike from tombstone.
Stephen Lang is great at portraying these kind of characters.
An underrated actor. I saw him recently as a crooked mayor in some cheap western. He was best part of movie.
He is... he's a wonderful 1800's actor for sure!! I loved him in Tombstone too..
He was made for depicting the 1800's lol
Yes in both gettysburg and this
He was perfect as General Pickett in Gettysburg, very underrated actor.
"Stuart was the only man that could make the stonewall laugh and he was the only man that dared to try".
If I could only grow a beard like these men I'd be a happy man.
Hell I'd be too. Like a buck jackass in a swamp of crap.
Less chemicals in the food. Just guessing
And invite squirrels to nest?
I once had a beard like these gentlemen. Had to shave it off. “Kept tastin’ my soup three days after I ate it.” - Little Bill Daggett
The beards were epic, the hats, impeccable.
Stonewall actually said that about whiskey..."I found I liked the taste of it, and thereby resolved to do without it."
Jackson was a stone wall in more ways than one. He was about as rigidly disciplined a man in his behaviors as you'd ever see, and he had some pretty odd behaviors.
Polar opposite of Grant
@@jasoncarswell7458 If only he had the discipline to not use official orders as a cigar wrap.
@@abrahamlincoln9758 LOL, Jackson didn't smoke. That was Gen. D.H. Hill, his brother-in-law, who lost his copy of Order 191.
@@jasoncarswell7458 Still, though. Pick something a little less likely to get your army destroyed.
A great actor like Lang can make you believe he actually is a cur like Ike Clanton in Tombstone or a great General like Stonewall Jackson in Gods and Generals. Only a very talented actor can make you love or hate him depending on the role he plays.
He makes it difficult to believe the same man played Pickett and Stonewall.
For all the issues I have with Gods and Generals , Lang is not one of them
"That hat, suh, is impeccable."
Stephen Lang from Stonewall Jackson in Gods and Generals to George Pickett in Gettysburg, such a great actor.
I'm JEB Stuart and I approve this message.
I have a J.E.B.stuart whiskey decanter
“Jeb” just hits differently now
Greetings General Stuart, been a while since we talked last.
@P.G.T Beauregard Greetings General Beauregard!!!!!!!!!!!!
@P.G.T Beauregard I miss General Longstreet, I talked to Lee the other day and he's still 6 feet under he said.
Stonewall Jackson was a rather unpopular commander amongst his own men. He was known as a very stern and straightforward commander, due to this him and the combative AP Hill despised one another, and Ewell respected him, but wasn't close to him. Jackson would grow easily frustrated if his orders were not followed exactly as given, and for Stuart to maintain a close friendship with Jackson really says something. Coincidentally the two died almost exactly one year apart with Jackson passing away on May 10, 1863 and Stuart on May 12, 1864.
Thomas Jackson has many parallels to Marshal Davout - the Iron Marshal. He too was disliked by other generals, particularly high class ones, for his cold and aloof personality. He preferred family life over status and intrigue. He was tough and firm with his men, had a demanding set of standards and expected of them a lot. But he led them to victory after victory against all odds and was probably the most talented and able leader amongst Napoleon's highly gifted officers. Including pulling off a near miraculous victory with just a single corps against the entire main Prussian Army at the Battle of Auerstädt.
Stonewall Jackson was a strange, quirky man to say the least. He had a habit of eating lemons on the battlefield, and was also often seen raising one of his hands in the air above his head to help 'stimulate circulation.' In his personal study at his house at VMI there were no chairs, as Jackson believed that sitting down while reading hampered the brain's ability to absorb the material being read.
But as a commander on the field he was one of the best. He was shrewd, dedicated and unrelenting, believing that once you made contact with the enemy you went at him with everything you had, and when he ran you put just as much effort into the pursuit as you did the battle. If he had been alive at Gettysburg I think things would have turned out differently.
And if Stuart had been doing his job instead of showboating to get his name in the papers, Gettysburg wouldn't have happened at all because Lee would have known what was in front of him and not engaged.
@@traveller4790 It is often believed that he has ASD or OCD, he displayed many odd symptoms
- Creature of habit
- Obsessive over interest
- Grew easily frustrated if his system was messed with
- Freakishly worried about his health
- Very specific about the way he wanted things done
- Reserved and kept to himself
- Never really cared to make new friends
@@stonewalljackson5692 That wouldn't surprise me one bit.
@@traveller4790 I definitely think we see a lot of this with the symptoms you noted, but also his extremely tense relationship with his subordinate officers like General Gregg and General Hill.
I was in the military myself and had to take history classes. That is the way the US military saluted back then
@@kincaidwolf5184 I wonder why? Almost every navy in the world copies from the British Royal Navy.
@@briangulley6027 it's a bit confusing I originally thought your palm up meant your country had lost a war against an invader and palm down meant you haven't lost a war on your soil but I guess that's a myth like the one originating with it resembling Knights opening their visors.
epic beards
And impeccable hats!
Enviable.
And he's a native Virginian.
Yep, epic beards
Those beards remind me of the two guys in that Bug Bunny cartoon, “Hillbilly Hare”.
I visited General Stuart's grave last week in Richmond. It was chilling to be there.
charles neely learn to spell and go back to your internet porn .
charles neely
what a pity you have no sense of due respect for those, who unlike you, fought heroically in a cruel war and once again, unlike you, remain to the end of time in history
why was there a breeze
IronPiedmont1996
chilling is 18 degrees in Albuquerque
As much as I love this movie, and Gettysburg aswell, I can from experience tell you all that watching both movies (the extended versions at that) back to back in one sitting is not advisable. +9 hours of movie in one go = brain well and truly fried
Casual Movie Goers-No thank you
Tolkienists-Challenge excepted after I binge The Lord of the Rings Trilogy for the Nth time.
Southern Fried? Or just...fried...?
Haha totally agree with you 😊
Jackson was one of the only people that saw what was coming.
I often wonder if maybe things in our country would be better if we kept the Article's of Confederation or at least improved upon them.
Unfortunately, he didn't foresee his death from one of his own sentries the night he returned from a reconnaissance patrol. It was the nail in the coffin for the Confederacy. That night they lost everything. Jackson was the South's most valuable general, and I really do believe that if he had been at the Battle of Gettysburg Lee would have won the battle, because Jackson would have talked Lee down from the insanity of Pickett's charge.
@@jebbroham1776 Longstreet couldn't talk him down, Idk if Jackson could
@@firingallcylinders2949 Losing Jackson was akin to losing Lee right hand, and Lee admitted to it.
@@jebbroham1776 Completely agree with your assessment. People either don't know or seem to forget that Stonewall died only a few weeks before the Gettysburg Campaign began in the summer of 1863. Unable to even enjoy the great victory at Chancellorsville because losing Jackson there made it a pyrrhic victory. Would've obviously been better to lose the battle and not the man.
After the doctors tried to save Stonewall's life by amputating his arm: “He has lost his left arm...but I have lost my right.” -REL. Lee held no one's counsel in higher regard. He respected and valued Longstreet, but his aforementioned nickname for Jackson vs calling Longstreet his "old warhorse" should perfectly illustrate the difference. Lee also had not yet lost a battle he personally commanded, and sometimes that in and of itself is a negative when the only person who could've reigned you in perished shortly before.
I named my son Jeb Stuart. He was born in Virginia.
I love this scene, the two Friends meet, and Stonewall remarks on J.E.B. Mighty Fine Hat :)
Its hard to believe I actually knew someone that was born 2 years after this war ended.
There's a television recording from 1953 on RUclips of an interview of someone who was at Ford's Theatre when Lincoln was assassinated. He was on *television.* Unbelievable.
and then everybody clapped.
@@abrahamlincoln9758 They literally have audio from that war and video of the older veterans after it. It's insane.
@@abrahamlincoln9758 That man, Samuel Seymour, built the earliest houses in a neighborhood near me: Herald Harbor in Crownsville, Maryland. Ford's Theater has stated recently that they do not believe Mr. Seymour's story. He died at 96, but never started mentioning the story until he was 94. The cannot place him, or the 2 women he was with there that night. The theater used a sign-in book, but their names did not appear in it.
“That’s an impeccable hat sir.”
Thank you sir.
I was very glad to see that they got most of the actors from "Gettysburg" to reprise their roles in "Gods and Generals" even though the latter was made some time after the former. The actor who plays Stuart was, I think, a perfect choice. I also think that Stephen Lang was perfect for both roles he played, both as General George Pickett and General Thomas Jackson.
But I'm glad they didn't have Martin Sheen portray General Lee again. I think Robert Duvall - who is actually related to Lee - did a MUCH better job.
Yes, Duval thoroughly nailed the great gentleman general.
Amen!!!!! Thank you!!!! Glad to hear that someone else thinks the same thing about General Lee.
No way dude… Sheen was by far a better Lee. His mannerisms, accuracy of speech and accent as well as candor went lengths and bounds beyond that of Duvall.
And don’t get it twisted, I still believe Robert Duvall to be one of the better actors the past 50 years.
It’s also a shame they didn’t bring back Tom Berenger for Longstreet. He nailed that role in Gettysburg perfectly.
@@LicardoDeBousee I disagree. I'm from Virginia and I'll tell you that Sheen's attempt at a Southern accent was nothing short of atrocious. Lee was a soft-spoken commander, and the only time anyone could recall him losing his temper and lashing out at one of his officers was at Gettysburg when he blew up on Stuart (who had it coming). Both actors had Lee's physical traits/actions down pat, but in my opinion Duvall was the much better portrayal of this great American.
Sheen had much more screen time. He could do more with the character.
I don't see Jackson as a guy who would talk politics at all to another officer, especially J.E.B. Stuart. But Jackson holding up the Bible saying, proverbiably, 'this is the answer' is definitely up Jackson's alley.
Stephen Lang as Stonewall Jackson, other credits:General Pickett in Gettysburg and Ike Clanton in Tombstone.
Not to mention Avatar, Terra Nova, Salem, Into the Badlands, etc... Almost every role I can think he's played has been military or some sort of warrior.
One romantic legend has it that today’s military salute descended from the medieval knight's gesture of raising his visor to reveal his identity as a courtesy on the approach of a superior. Another even more fantastic version is that it symbolizes a knight's shielding his eyes from the dazzling beauty of some high-born lady sitting in the bleachers of the tournament.
That is oddly based
@@jacksonguillory8114 Queen Elisabeth I loved that sort of flattery.
Sounds very romantic but almost certainly wrong. It was a gesture as an alternative to removing your hat and first recorded in 1745 since hats had become large and very ornamental. If based on the visor, funny how it skipped a few centuries.
who knows ? @@janandersen8735
"the South will give them a warm reception..."...love it.
Is that foreshadowing Sherman's March
the north gave an even more warm reception.
@@xenophonBC especially southern homes 😏
@John Wilkes Booth the confederacy is dead.
@John Wilkes Booth the USA defeated the british twice, the nazis, the soviets..the mob. the better conscious will always win.
did he just casually drifted his way in, with a horse!? thats some ol school badass trick right there!
“If the north triunfs it is the triumph of commerce,banks and factories “ ooof this was man was a prophet truly saw what was coming for this country
No quarter to the violators of our homes and firesides
In today's political climate these words are worth remembering
@@mopar21 amen
Traitorous Rebs are gonna get the same stick!
@@mopar21 Amen.
@@ROLtheWolf cool I'm taking as many oath forgetting assholes as I can with me.
Jackson was right, we should have made the war so horrific for the north that they'd come begging us to end it. The problem was that the south fought with honor and the north didn't, and that's why we lost.
General Jackson was under no illusion about the realities of war. He had experienced it already and he wanted it to be over as quickly as possible. He shocked others when he said these things but he was right. He was surrounded by people with a civilian background who thought it would all end in a glorious calvalry charge. He was tough on his men but he did get results.
Good. Honor is a fools prize. I say that as a southerner. Fuck the CSA.
Two men who were the walking examples of intensity, yet in entirely different ways. Fascinating all around.
Valor has no side in war. Bravery has no side in war. You just respect it no matter what side your on. Period.
tonyrosam Wrong, man must have honor in war you must have bravery and zeal. Clearly sir you have never been on a battlefield. I have killed many men in Afghanistan and I'm glad I did.
@@creaturesofdarkness3365 I think you missed his point.
Jackson knew what was coming. As great as Lee was he was to much of a Gentleman.
Ok I'm a girl so yeah. But Stonewall Jackson is my uncle so yeah I have a good history
Now, I WILL say that I believe that the Southern armies...particularly the ANV...fought gallantly against overwhelming odds and, for the most part, out-Generaled the Northern armies. James Longstreet was correct, though: Lee cost the South the war by his actions at Gettysburg. He should have sent Longstreet's 1st Corp to Vicksburg, like Longstreet requested. Dorsey Pender's wife was correct in her assertion that the invasion of the North was a huge mistake. Religion was her concern.
These two men would both be dead before the war ended. Jackson was a victim of fratricide at Chancellorsville and Stuart died in a cavalry battle the following year. There is much debate over how the war (especially Gettysburg) would have progressed had Jackson lived. This film is good, but Stephen Lang is great, as he is in just about all of his work.
I didn't think the film was very good. It tried to cover 4 major battles with one movie. That just doesn't work. You can't cover so many battles in one film, even a 4 hour one.
"Hey, Jeb, dont go riding off on your own like a jackass when we invade pennsylvania"
-Stonewall if he wasn't killed at Chancellorsville
Trot...Gen. Jackson had to be kind of laughing at that little remark by Lt. Col. Stuart. You could tell that he liked this young Officer immediately.
The biggest reason they liked each other was because they agreed on offensive, North invading, reckless endangerment of there own men
"Served since in the cavalry. Fort Clark Texas. Operations against the Apache, Comanche.....but have you ever saw a Na'vi?"
JEB Stuart announces himself as Lt. Colonel, yet his shoulder boards have an eagle on them. That would mean he's a full Colonel.
Thomas jefferson foresaw this. He knew wealth and international banks would be concentrated in the north which would cause the south to split.
That's actually pretty interesting.Very prophetic. Actions and reactions.
Citation needed. The Civil war had nothing to do with wealth concentration or banks.
@@TheStapleGunKid Are you joking?
He also knew, collectively speaking, blacks and whites could not coexist...
Nick Pane they’re doing better now than ever. Honestly. Still a ways to go from both sides. But it’s improving
Jeb Stuart, greatest cavalry commander in the Confederate Army!
Nathan B. Forrest: Hold my beer.
What about Joseph Wheeler.? The war child.!. Commanded Johnston's cavalry.
Too bad Forrest was a senseless butcher whose men murdered over 200 unarmed black POW’s and Tennessee Tories during the Fort Pillow Massacre in 1864… the only legacy he should have is one of a ruthless, white-supremacist barbarian.
Jeb Stuart died a hero. Nathan Forrest lived long enough to become a villain
"tha,ts an impeccable beard young JEB,do you hide badgers in it"
lol
Baz theblue he killed badgers at gettysburg,
beards don't make sense..to me. it is a backwards reaction to baldness? beards are not practical. romans shaved.
@@xenophonBC I don't know, they look awesome.
@@thedefinitionoflife9192 they do but maybe long beard means short dick.
I miss Stuart, Longstreet and Lee
You do know Jackson was possibly one of the strongest Christians in an army full of Christians? That while he owned slaves he thought it the master's Christian duty to love them and treat them with nothing but respect. He was a man of his time, and saw that the bible did not condemn slavery, so he did not think it his place to question the God he strongly believed in. Be careful about applying modern morals to historical figures.
The American Civil War produced some of the greatest Generals in Western Civilisation History
Of God's and Generals was a great movie which I own on DVD. Plus I own the movie Gettysburg.
They love you and are very great full of their rememberance and their cause.
Stephen Lang plays Stone Wall Jackson and George Pickett 😂😂
Thats an impeccable beard sir
They were great beards
Let me add to what I just said about Stephen Lang. I believe that learning how to act can often be gleaned from just watching the performances of other actors. I've kept mental list of such great performances: Alistair Simm in Scrooge, Ron Moody in Oliver, F. Murray Abraham in Amadeus, in Gladiator the trio of Richard Harris, Oliver Reed, and Russell Crowe, Stephen Lang in Gods and Generals, Heath Ledger in Batman, and Hugh Jackman in Les Miserables. There are far many more but these I've selected and my favourite male acting performances.
Mr. Lang was the person/thing that saved this film for me.
Stuart introduced himself as Lt.Col., but is waring full Col. Eagles on his shoulder.
Was he Breveted?
I think the full gold is Lt Col, and the blue background is Full Colonel
Stwphen Lang. Master of his craft.
Stephen Lang telling it like it was! :P
Those are some glorious beards.
Yes, I try to take good care of it
Two great men of Virginia.
All I see is two Traitors
Stonewall Jackson was actually clean-shaven at the beginning of the war
Stephen Lang is on the apex of the Swanson pyramid chart.
Poise, meat, fish -for sport only. Fish meat is basically a vegetable. Crying: acceptable at funerals and the Grand Canyon.
The Civil War was not won by acts of valor or skill on the battlefield, but by the size and scope of each man's beard.
Holy shit he almost broke that horse's leg. he stopped way to fast
What leader of forces would not be honored to be dubbed. Stonewall!
0:27 "Do you use Tobbacah?"
@@jacksondoegg4001 Greetings President Davis sir *salute*
President Lincoln..................still wearing the hat huh????
The War of the Magnificent Beards
Name of song in background. McLeods Reel. Your welcome :)
Stuart must remove his Impeccable Hat because he is under the cover of Jackson's tent. In the U.S. Army we don't wear our covers inside!!!!!!
In actuality, Turner Ashby commanded Jackson's cavalry.
The following explanation of the origin of the hand salute is perhaps closest to the truth: It was a long-established military custom for juniors to remove their headgear in the presence of superiors. In the British Army as late as the American Revolution a soldier saluted bv removing his hat.
Can you get a more Scottish name than James Ewell Brown Stuart?
JEB Stuart handbraking his horse to a stop...
"Your experience and your zeal will be invaluable . . . ."That "zeal" yielded deadly cost at Gettysburg.
Agreed, but I believe the more costly decision was Lee not putting Jeb in the place of Jackson after Jebs performance in his stead.
@M Zach JEB wasn't doing his job and scouting the area for good ground to fight Lee didn't have the home field advantage and didn't get help from southern farmers/soldiers like previous battles, and lee was lost at gettysburg he didn't know if he should advance after the union retreat so they wouldn't have time to dig in on those heights and other strategic defences
@M Zach it was actually Longstreet Lee just said whenever you are ready my old warhorse and i beg you plan it well i think this might be the end
If Lee could see the sense Longstreet was arguing the entire thing would have been avoided. Longstreet is the great underrated general of that war.
But it supplied and fed the army for another year.
ORIGIN OF THE HAND SALUTE
No one knows the precise origin of today’s hand salute. From earliest times and in many distant armies throughout history, the right hand (or "weapon hand") has been raised as a greeting of friendship. The idea may have been to show that you weren't ready to use a rock or other weapon. Courtesy required that the inferior make the gesture first. Certainly there is some connection between this old gesture and our present salute.
I bet that if Stonewall's strategy had been followed, it would have broken Lincoln's resolve to try to conquer the Confederacy.
or public option of the Confederacy ways of making war would have become negative, an thus making it even harder for them to get support from the outside which they really needed.
Or the Union would’ve stopped pussyfooting around and unleashed their full industrial and economic might on the south
No Quarter is fucking stupid and if Jackson thought that was a good idea he was probably a better order-taker than strategist
Instructive on so many levels.
Over and over and over Stephen Lang made this movie great!
Looked at the buy or rent tab. 15 bucks for this?! I recall watching this in the cinema. Even the most ardent fans of the author suffered through it.
the triumph of the banks...Just look at what we endure today in the FEDeral Reserve!
Which is not owned by the government, but by the big wealthy bankers (no I do not mean the Jews).
Luigi, Sir I agree with your intent, although even the lowest of humans can be saved from that eternal damnation. Let us pray that this young man finds that truth out before our heavenly father takes him home for his judgement.....
Can you imagine getting into a time machine and landing right beside the two of them, you take with you a ballistic helmet, a kevlar vest, night vision goggles, M4A1 with an M203 Grenade Launcher, AK-47, AA-12 full auto shotgun, M1911, an M249 SAW, an AT4 and some frag grenades. Just the look of shock and awe in the faces of Stonewall Jackson and JEB Stuart, top that off with a smartphone.
Whyd he reign that horse so hard?
I'm pretty sure Stuart died on the field, takes balls to lead Calvary during a war that was outdated tactically
+Glaber Marian Died at Yellow Tavern seeking to block Federal cavalry from flanking the army and capturing Richmond.
+Glaber Marian US Cavalry was not outdated, it was as advanced as anywhere in the world. Before the machine gun, Cavalry got Spencer repeating rifles, to supplement large caliber repeating handguns. Sheridan said Cavalry was just infantry with 4 detachable legs.
+DonMeaker very few regiments of cavalry were equipped with repeating rifles. If your referring to mounted infantry(primarily approaching and dismounting and forming a line of battle)i believe stuart's unit was dragoons mostly used for scouting and sometimes used for melee charge PS i said during a war that was outdated tactically, i never said cavalry was outdated read it again
Yeah to be in the cacalary was more scary than to be in the infantry, mostly because of the way infantry was able to defend
Glaber Marian he died at yellow tavern in 64
It was the first Total war in Modern times Honor of armies only fighting each other was sacrificed in this war and the worlds been sliding toward anarchy ever since
Lincoln was elected without one single southern state. He wasn't even on the ballot in several. Do you understand what this means? That is the very definition of "without representation." The most radical of 4 candidates winning without 1 southern state. How many states were there? And let's not tell tails here about Lincoln or the Republicans wanting to make blacks free and equal. This war was about Hamiltonian economics, central banking, Federalist vs Anti Federalist. This was about power.
what i like about this movie is many of the main actors are actors who were in the movie gettysburg...very cool
Ole JEB let us down there towards the end of the war, a couple times. RIP JEB
Especially at Gettysburg, leavinig Lee blind. Unforgiveable.
I disagree it falls on Lee. He knew he was blind correct? And in the end Stuart’s spoils supplied and fed the army through the rest of the year.
Let who down? Traitors to the United States of America?
General Lee was my friend, but he sometimes got too cocky. Should've let Longstreet lead at Gettysburg.
@@DaManBearPig How exactly did the Confederates betray the states? It was the North that invaded the South first. Learn about history before arguing against it.
Joseph Fuqua as Gen. Jeb Stuart and Stephen Lang as Gen. Thomas Stonewall Jackson
Did he make Lt Gen?
What's the song in the background?
Bonnie blue flag
@@brettanymichellelawson-top5197 Wrong! Its McLeods Reel
The beards, dear lawwwwwd the beards
"they just didnt like being told they couldnt own slaves."
Yet this was years before the emancipation proclomation.
Also whatever the reason for secession is irrelevant. If a state wishes to relieve itself from the union as it believes it to be wither corrupt or too over-bearing then they have the right to do so. That's what the United States was originally, a confederacy of united independent states.
That hat is indeed impeccable.
Come on make-up department....those beards.
the beards are awsome
People dont get it. If you are outside alot when its cold . Beards are perfect.
They had mighty stylish beards and mustaches back then.
yup that's why russian have great beards all the time, Russia is freaking cold most of the time, even though I still love russia, so that's why russian must have at least a short beard
I don't mind real beards. What I'm saying is I still cringe every time I see Longstreet's in 'Gettysburg'. Stephen Lang's is probably real, just because he's an awesome actor.
Well you don’t got to be Stonewall Jackson to know you don’t want to fight in a basement.
Stephen Lang made a better Stonewall Jackson than George Pickett, and he was a fairly decent Pickett.
Anyone recognize the actor who played Jackson? I'll give you a hint...."Stuart you are no longer in Virginia. You are on Pandora!"
Lang.
Joseph Fuqua was also in Gettysburg as General Stuart.
Interesting they have not changed the uniforms or the rank insignia yet.
+Krister Andersson i was thinking the same thing.
+Krister Andersson It took time to change uniforms, it caused a lot of confusion at the 1st battle of Bull Run.
Aren Self understandably.
Aren Self I can imagine so, I do wonder who thought out the new rank insignia though?
And Stuart correctly introduced himself as a Lt. Colonel, yet he's wearing the spread eagle shoulder straps of a full Colonel of cavalry.
So, JEB Stuart addresses Jackson as “Colonel Jackson” for much of the conversation, and Jackson addresses Stuart as “General Stuart”, even though he was introduced as “Lt. Colonel”????
History is written by the victors. The War of northern aggression, was a culmination of events that started in 1824. The southern states were large consumers of manufactured goods, and producers of raw goods. The north wanted to force the south to purchase their goods at higher prices, rather than import the same goods from Great Britain and Europe for a lower price. Having a numerical advantage in congress, they began passing oppressive tariffs on imported goods that the south needed. They also raised the tariffs on any exported goods the south tried to sell to Europe, therefore forcing the south to sell their goods to the north at lower prices. By the 1840's, 65% of all federal tariff revenue came from the southern states. This further enriched the north, while bankrupting the already less wealthy south. In 1861, at the outbreak of war, the South was paying 86% of all federal tariff revenue. This was unsustainable for the southern states. Oppressive taxation, without representation was the cause of the civil war. Sounds oddly familiar to our war of independence of 1776. In 1861, the act of succession was protected in the constitution as a counterbalance to a overreaching central government. Lincoln could not lose his "cash cow" southern states. The north and federal government had grown extremely wealthy off of the backs of Dixie. This war was never about slavery. Only 1.5% of the entire Southern population owned slaves, and some of those were black as well. The emancipation proclamation wasn't signed until 1863, 2 years into the war. It was only done, to prevent Great Britain and France from entering the war on the side of the south. Lincoln also said that he would allow slavery in the south, if it would save the union. It only freed slaves in the south, while the northern states still retained their slaves. Black and white fought for the confederacy. Unlike the northern black regiments, that were segregated and paid less, black confederate soldiers received the same pay as their white counterparts. The units were also mostly integrated as well. After the war, Lincoln had plans to ship all of the blacks back to Africa to the newly established nation of Liberia. There is so much more to this story. Sadly, no one cares anymore about the truth, just what is politically expedient. "Sic semper tyrannis"
natej912 *applauds* well said indeed sir!
This is the stupidest thing ever uttered by a person. The South was smaller, poorer, and agrarian. The amount consumers the South had were infinitesimal compared to the North. The North was more than two times the size of the South, wealthier, and had a far more advanced economy. The South was backward economically and culturally.
The war was about soccer as even the Confederates themselves admitted. Anyone who says otherwise is purposefully ignoring the words of the Secessionists themselves.
The audacity of you to present ahistorical claptrap as truth impresses. You would make Goebbels proud.
+wolverineeagle Yes the South was agrarian, much smaller and less populated, and less wealthy than the North. Nevertheless, the South paid 3/5 of all the taxes and tariffs levied by the Federal government. And the slaves they purchased were not only heavily taxed by the Federal Government since they were viewed as property, they were also sold by the slave traders of Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Maine. Next time, try basing your posts on facts rather than biased opinion!
+natej912 blah blah blah blah justification blah blah
+natej912 Yeah, and the fact that they wanted slavery to stay legal. You forgot that part.