Azerbaijan in a double header with Canada and then heading to Silverstone also makes you scratch your head, when COTA and the Mexican GP were put next to one another.
TV direction was dreadful this race. At one point it was nothing but Max driving around with no one around him for an entire lap while people were swapping positions left and right in the midfield. Absolutely infuriating seeing multiple cars with
Direction has been awful this whole season. We have seen moments were the director cuts away to a crowd shot DURING a takeover shot. It's absolutely mindboggling. Like, 'oh Leclerc is now side-by-side with Verstappen for 1st, let me just show this random mercedes fan drinking a beer'.
@@Lucade2210 yeah that was terrible, the weird thing is to their credit they did cut perfectly to Lando and gasly before the crash so they obviously can get it right
On the Point of the missing tec-pro barrier: The FIA actually investigated wether auch a barrier would be a Good idea at that specific corner. However they deemed it a Bad idea because such a Barrier (or any other barrier that would reduce impact forces) would have a high likeliehood to make the car bounce off the Wall and rebound into the track because of the corner specification. This would then be a High risk of a car-to-car accident instead of a car and Wall accident which would be FAR More dangerous. Because the speeds the cars reach at that Turn aren‘t very High to begin with, the FIA deemed it more safe to risk a few cars colliding with the Barrier rather than having a car bouncing back into Traffic and causing a huhge collision with far worse consequences. Obviously though, the drivers disaggreed with the FIAs' assessment. Whom you believe to be right in this case is up to you, ultimately though there isn't a clear cut decision to be made.
You are right. Also they were not able to move the barriers further away because the track is build to the edge of the hard rock property. Anything that goes beyond the current barrier is property of the town so they are not able to move the barrier onto it.
If the "bouncing back onto the live track" being the issue of not putting a Tecpro, there's still an alternative to a concrete barrier in that section, and since we already in the US, it's such a perfect place to get actual SAFER barrier....
If that were the case then the tech pro at Russia turn 3 would have spat cars back out, but it didn't, think to Grosjeans 2015 shunt, or the 2020 and 2021 F2 shunts
@@ey7290 I am not an expert on these things but I think wether a Tecpro Barrier bounces cars back onto the track or wether it just stops them is dependend on the angle of the car at the moment of impact. From my understanding the angle with which cars would probably hit the wall at turn 14 in Miami during for example a wheel to wheel fight during the race is what makes it so likely that they would ricochet back onto the track. This dynamic appears to be different for turn 3 in Sochi (they would probably hit the wall at a much steeper angle and hence be more likely to get stuck in the barrier but again I am not an expert on this sort of thing I am just relaying information I read/heard about from the FIA).
If it weren’t for the idea of quickly being able to scan in the event of serious injury, I’d agree with Lewis about the driver’s ability to wear jewelry. However, as an EMT, I can attest to how difficult, fiddly, and surprisingly time consuming it is to remove jewelry in the event that a CT scan is necessary (and we don’t even do that unless asked to lend a helping hand to nurses in the emergency department). Despite safety features getting better to protect the neck and head, when you need to not only remove metal objects so the magnetic scanner doesn’t turn them into a projectile attached to skin, but also needing to keep the head and neck as stable as humanly possible during transport, jewelry can be the difference between a fixed aneurysm leaving only minor injury and debilitating or lethal brain injuries.
Totally on par that USA produces similar racing entertainment as Russia. They are essentially the same countries that chose to bomb other smaller countries.
Agreed, surprised Chain Bear sounded so optimistic about it. The lack of alternate racing lines was so painfully obvious, and that mistake generator was just the worst. To think people were calling it a potential Monaco killer... more like a Sochi replacement ffs. Mandatory resurface should be bare minimum for 2023 consideration.
I enjoyed it better than the ones in Australia and Imola. There were good midfield battles, but they didn't show much of that. This race had 45 overtakes. It is the 2nd highest this year behind Bahrain (58) and 32 more than Imola but the tv didn't show that many. I used F1 TV and heard it had much better shots than ESPN or Sky.
While I completely agree about the tractors. But then as an ex Marshall I would say what about the guys out on track why don't we get a ultra slow zone? Going on track during a SC is still insanely scary
That should also be the case. Especially after Japan, i think the incident area must have a double waved yellow or a white flag to indicate that drivers must be ready to stop.
Dude I mean it wasn’t the greatest race,, but we had leader get passed from the Driver who started 3rd on the grid … we had some pretty good midfield battles,, GR and Ocon on recovery drives who both recovered nicely … and then we had what everyone seems to want to make a good race nowadays a safety car… With Charles putting mega pressure on Max for a few laps,, not a bad little Sunday
One thing missed in this video regarding the jewellery ban is that the rule specifically mentions necklaces, piercings and watches, but emits rings and other such objects. Rings have a much higher risk factor due to horrible things like degloving so for the FIA to enforce the rule but ignore them suggests that there is something wrong with the way they are enforcing it. Secondly, Hamilton's jewellery is all MRI scan safe and so that's not a problem either.
@@J5L5M6 Or you're looking for a way to make your favourite sportsperson a victim since the FIA who apply this rule is still owned and headquartered in France.
Overhyped is the perfect way to sum up this weekend. It just made me feel like the flop that was the race seem far bigger as a result, the more they hyped it, the bigger the flop it has become. You can tell it's bad when cameras spend more time looking at the "threat" of rain than what little action there was on track (well, car park more accurately)
TV direction was the main problem. And this track is far more than a car park track imo. There were some actual elevation changes on the track. The main issue was the surface which should hopefully be changed
The fact that this was race was hyped at all is a fabrication. All I've seen is cynicism even when it was first announced. And of course the predictable dig at the fact that it's used as a car park certain months of the year (which completely disregards the labor put into setting up the event in the first place). I hope you keep this same level of scrutiny and pessimism throughout the season.
@@woogaoogaboogafooga it was hyped, far too much. COTA, when it staged its first race in 2012 left a warm glow because it is close to Austin, Texas, to enable teams, drivers and fans to sample the Texan State Capital's city life. Being a purpose built venue and being inspired by features from other race tracks, as well as bespoke aspects to the track itself meant that it was and is a superb place for a race, best of all, that first race was pretty good (there was a race long battle between the then championship leader, Sebastian Vettel and Lewis Hamilton, who was in his penultimate race with McLaren, with Hamilton ultimately coming out on top). Journalists at the time raved about it, saying the saddest part was going home. If there are concerns, they stem from those who point out that the United States has a superb array of other purpose built tracks, heck, if they wanted a venue in Florida, what's wrong with the Daytona Road Course? There's a reason why hard core fans expressed concern about street tracks in the US. Venues like Dallas, Phoenix, Caesar's Palace and Detroit showed all the stereotype issues with street tracks, concrete walls, right angled corners and poor track conditions. In the case of Miami, nobody can deny, with the ongoing works throughout the weekend to patch up the track, that the condition of the track wasn't perfect, causing what most people who tuned for, the race, to be a snoozer for 80% of it. If the on track action doesn't live up to the hype, there's only one way to refer to it. The criticism isn't a reflection of those who worked to get the track ready, it's more criticism of F1 for not learning from the mistakes of the past. What frustrates me, is that they have made all this effort with Miami and (next year) Las Vegas, but there are no home grown American drivers on the grid? What good is 3 Grands Prix in a country with no drivers from that country on the grid?
I'd say the most hyped event is the Monaco GP. It's always praised for its glitz and well-healed celebrities and patrons, but when the race actually gets underway it's dull and processional unless a crash happens. What's the point of having a race on a track where you don't have enough space to overtake? I know there's a great deal of tradition involved in the event, and the organizers are really passionate about it, but thinking objectively you'll realize that modern F1 has outgrown the track. Let's see how it is this year.
With the jewelry, Hamilton and Mercedes got what they asked for. After last year, they demanded that all rules apply to all drivers without exception. Fair enough, but they can’t have it both ways and demand that rules not be bent (lapped cars during a safety car) unless it’s a rule you don’t like (jewelry). Be careful what you wish for.
@N.B. That's complete bs as a justification for the newly enforced jewellery ban. First of, on safety grounds. The points highlight makes little sense when scrutinized. The melting point of skin is 40 odd degrees depending on the person. The melting point of gold is over 1000 degrees. The melting point of platinum, the alloy in lewis' nose ring melts at 1800 degrees. Meaning, by the time gold and platinum has absorbed enough heat to transfer it to one's flesh, said flesh would already be gone. So no, it's not a safety hazard. Romain Grosjean said on sky that the only part of his hand that didn't burn was underneath his wedding ring because gold is a well known heat shield. Which is why the bay of the mclaren f1 roadcar was lined with it. It's fair to say a neck chain can potentially cause a snagging hazard which is fair. Reports from first responders say wedding rings are the most troublesome. As they're near impossible to remove due to swelling in the hands. The fireproof undies is even stupider. Drivers must wear fireproof nomex racing suit, fireproof onesies, fireproof balaclava, fireproof socks and gloves. Not to mention helmet. If the fire is severe enough to burn through all those layers chances are you're already dead. No point protecting your dick and balls if the rest of you is charred to a crisp.
@@Bahamuttiamat Nope. None of what you said refutes what I said. I never said that there is full merit to the safety argument. I said that Lewis demanded that all rules be followed and enforced after last season. He got exactly what he asked for, and now he’s complaining about it.
6:16 the war on jewellery... simple. Tell 'em to loose the jewellery! I run construction sites in Australia. Jewellery is pretty much banned outright from all our job sites. For safety reasons, and this includes wedding rings and religious icons. The overpaid prima donna's of F1 need to realise they're not above the rules. The F1 cockpit is their work environment, and a dangerous one. This includes rules on protective clothing as well. Hell, it's already banned from our kids touch-football comp.
Its just a bit hollow when they also choose to race in an active war zone, literally a few kilometers from missile strikes. Also how did you come to the conclusion that they're overpaid?
The only sport I'm pretty sure doesn't ban it is American Baseball, and there there's minimal contact between players or anything else that could make the jewelry dangerous.
I thought it was a solid race, better than the ones at Albert Park and Imola though the tv direction should be better; they didn't show much of the midfield battles. All of the Miami grand prix reviewers seem to miss that this race had 45 overtakes. It is the 2nd highest this year behind Bahrain (58) and 32 more than Imola, but we didn't see many videos in the F1 community saying that the Imola race was dull or boring.
How can yo u say that about the tv direction, It was a classy shot of the crowd, it wasn't their fault Leclerc decided to try and overtake Verstappen at right that moment. Blame the drivers for having such bad timing, not the guys who are supposed to show us what they do...... wait i think i got this the wrong way round.
@@yoeriw7099 the TV direction was bad in other races too especially the saudi race where for some reason camera kept cutting to the crowd when leclerc and max were switching positions and locking up , that entire race all the best parts was provided in replay rather than the live view.
@@thesaint5991 yeah, I start getting the feeling that whoever is in charge there doesn't like racing. Or had the orders to get pretty shots of the scenery and crowd, no matter what happened on track. I get the feeling that if you put a neutral racing fan in charge it might be better than this
I feel like thr biggest issue in what makes a race good and fun to watch is mainly the TV directors there was a lot of overtakes we didn't see because the directors dont allow multiple events to be shown at once
About the heavy machinery on track, a good example was Juan Pablo Montoya hitting a jet dryer under caution in nascar. Accidents can happen even under yellow
They already don’t wear watches when racing. A lot of the teams are sponsored by watch companies so have a picture of a watch on their wrist of the race suit. You can see the top 3 putting on their watches when they go to their little podiums with their hat and water after the race
Alot of people are saying that F1 should not use this kind of track surface again, and I have to say that I strongly disagree. F1 is about innovation, and innovation doesn't mean you give up on the first try. There can sometimes be the odd step back, but what if there is a great idea in there lurking under a few problems? Of course they shouldn't persist if they repeatedly have the same issues, and have no way of solving it, but we should encourage F1 to try to persevere with an idea if there is a chance it improves the sport. The surface was worse than usual, but it wasn't that bad. We even saw an on track overtake for the lead. It should make sense that a new and relatively untested composition is not immediately as good as the highly understood and highly optimised one we currently have. For a first outing this seems like a decent result, and if they do continue with this kind of surface we should hopefully see rapid improvement to its quality.
Thanks for always offering so much well thought out insight! So refreshing amongst the reactivity that seemed to come out of this race. I’d love to see a breakdown of how different types of turns and track surfaces affect tyre degradation (just a suggestion obviously!)
@@MrYoungHegelian not the best track of the season indeed lets see how this year cars will do. But the cranes in some corners is smart specially for that kind of tracks. The cars are off the track in no time and no heavy duty vehicles on track.
I agree with you 100%. Those tractors shouldn't be anywhere near an F1 track or any race track. Do what we did in the 80's and 90's and get a crane onsite to lift the car right off the circuit.
I agree with you %100 about heavy removal vehicles on track during a live race. Bianchi was killed by a crane parked in the runoff area. Its as simple as that. The fact that the FIA hasn't accepted their responsibility in that makes me sick...and they are still doing it. I wonder who will die next. Anyone who thinks a plastic halo is going to save your head from a 5,000 lb cast iron counterweight on the back of a truck is a fool.
Cannot believe they did not cover the concrete barriers after the practice incidents. Should have been an easy fix and they chose to ignore driver requests. Not a good look for the race directors who proclaim their interest in safety first.
@@SuperMafia864 it's more that they should have red flaged or established an extreme caution zone under safety car, like Chain Bear suggested, while removing the car
Your PTSD about Bianchi is a bit over the top. Ultimately, his crash was caused by going too fast, which is why the safety car was clearly used on Sunday when they needed a tractor. As for de Villota, her crash was at a runway where the facilities aren't comparable to a Grade 1 circuit.
But when Spa is moving a literal mountain to make itself safer after the Hubert crash. It is surely odd that such a dangerous scenario as tractors on track is allowed to continue so long after the Bianchi crash.
@@chainbear The tractor crane is safe as long as the driver's speed is curtailed and kept under control. Hence why the safety car is deployed if it's needed. What other options do you have that don't involve stopping the race?
"Locally sourced" = saving money because shipping dirt and rock is expensive. They ended up mixing 60% north georgia rock with 40% local limestone because they did 60% of the job they needed to do and left the remaining 40% up to wishes and hopes, basically.
On the jewelry, I think the main point is that Lewis and the FIA are in a bit of an argument right now on a lot of fronts (i.e. over the end of last season, and not attending the award ceremony) this inforcement seems more unusual in that context where the most bedazzled driver is the one with the most issues with the FIAs handling of the the rules
That argument just seems like paranoia. It’s already a rule and if you’re unhappy about the end of last season then the argument would be to start strictly enforcing rules. Can’t have it both ways
@@TheUSDebt I just mean in the video it's treated as a Hamilton being against the enforcement for the rule because it's not been enforced before and drivers should get to choose, Vs safety but the context of last season and the ongoing relationship between them is missing. I think that the point should have been made that for Hamilton it feels personal because he has the most jewelry and he did not show up to the award show and he was out spoken over last season.
@@jacoblawton6350 OK yeah I see why context would make it more clear, I just don’t think the context really makes Hamilton look any better for arguing this rule.
Looking back now and seeing Red Bull labelled as “less reliable” and Ferrari as “more reliable” made me chuckle, even if it was totally accurate at the time :)
Russell’s strategy was probably just “Fuck it latifi is likely to crash at some point might aswell slap the hards on and hope for a safety car late on”
It was a decent idea as either outcome of this plan was okay. 7th/8th without a safety car in a car that had been completely out of whack in FP3 and Qualifying. If he had the same setup from FP1 I think he might have raced aggressively but this was using the only benefit the Merc has right now with it being reliable, not to harsh on the tyres and that allows it to run on these hards at better quality for longer. Russell has been given quite a bit of grief for being lucky which is true but a brand new circuit, street layout and as you said Latifi can seem to crash while parked so with a dodgy track surface and new track it must multiply the chances and even without it the Merc at Miami wasn't looking so good anyway but at least they got a working setup for Hamilton I suppose so now they have two cars in the top 10.
I feel like the FIA should put more effort into making the fireproof underwear comfortable. IDK why else drivers wouldn't want to wear it, and that seems like a fairly simple thing to do. As for jewelry, I'm not an expert in safety, but I do think it's important to note that different cultural groups have different beliefs on jewelry and the current regulations have little impact on what is considered normal for straight white men from western countries to wear, only impacting crosses worn by some Christians. Obviously, there are also safety concerns, but I do wonder why wedding rings are exempt but other items aren't. IMO, instead of a blanket ban, the FIA should evaluate the safety of different pieces of jewelry independently. Other sports ban jewelry because of the potential for it to be snagged, but F1 has different safety concerns.
There is this track here called CotA and its one of the best tracks ever built and then there is this Miami freeway sized parking lot thing...Florida and Texas both SUUUUUCK but when it comes to tracks one is massively better than the other. I hope they give up on this crap as soon as contracts will allow.
Limestone is very prevalent in FL - not sure if it would actually be worth the money to rip up everything and redo it or to even put a new layer over the top.
Yeah, I can see why drivers complained about turns 14-16. The cars had to slow all the way down to 'my Vespa has more downforce' twice. I get that it was to deal with the quick elevation change, but they took what could have been a slow speed technical challenge...and took it so far that it became a no-speed tip-toe where nothing happened.
The ban on jewelry would not cause any "distraction" unless some spoiled entitled Diva creates huge drama out of it and drag the sensatiolist media to focus on it for weeks. I mean how can the enforcement of jewelry ban be that hard? Drivers only need to remove them from their bodies and a simple site inspection will suffice it ain't as hard as compared to reconfiguring a track layout, or track resurfacing or installing tecpro barriers right in the middle of the weekend race
F1 circuits are all about THE MOST/THE BEST/THE FASTEST. At the rate F1 is going I can see the next press release now: NEW F1 GRAND PRIX CIRCUIT HAS THE MOST CONCRETE WALLS AROUND THE FASTEST BLIND CORNERS! IT'S SO EXCITING! COME JOIN US IN THE PADDOCK CLUB FOR SALTINES AND PUNCH ONLY $25K
I don’t know how Verstappen managed to get Driver of the day as Russell and Sainz saw more action Russell keeping his top 5 finish even after bad quali and Sainz pulling a quick one to get out of DRS range of Perez 😁 The most there was from Verstappen was a simple pass at lights out for second then a boring DRS passed Leclerc on a straight 🥱
Regarding the subject of tractors on track you mentioned: I bet the tractor that killed bianci will be there at suzuka this year. They never changed thoise vehicles.
Thank you for you thoughtful analysis of the race. It’s hard to take the FIA seriously on their stance regarding jewelry and fire proof underwear when they didn’t even respond to the drivers’ requests regarding the Tekpro barriers after both Sainz and Ocon crashed in the same place with significant impact. I think Sainz’s crash was a relatively low speed crash also.
*how many drivers and crew now have COVID?* ...as absolutely no one wore masks there, normally at all the other races they have, and in Florida COVID is huge problem(one of the worst places in the world for it?) altho vastly under reported and downplayed there to remove safety concerns
With the vehicles going on track to lift cars off. Wouldn’t it be better that at every opening they have winch equipment eg a winch on a Landrover. Put a loop to hook to on every car and just pull them back behind the barriers. No vehicles on track and very quick. Also they should paint a box to stop in at each of the openings in the barriers. Drivers have to stop in the box if they have an issue on track, car in neutral wheels pointing dead ahead. Norris’s car even on 3 wheels could have been pulled back behind the barrier easily
I hope next year things change a lot with the Miami GP. It was overhyped and in more than one ocasion I heard the flexing "best of the world" or "top of the world" in sunday. The truth is, it was below average. Add to that the amount of local celebrities that thought they were the most importan thing, the absurd amount of shots of the stantds instead of the race or the "americanization" of the different things in the event (the police thing in particular was as cringe as it gets). I like to think it was a one off mistake because they were trying a new thing and they will hear the complaints and criticism, fixing most things for the next year but, if Liberty think this is the way forward because short term profit is what they want, I predict they will lose a lot on medium/long term.
In the jewellery argument I more agree with the FIA as it could cause more injuries than intended But on the other hand if the driver crashes I think jewellery isn't gonna be my concern as they may have done a high G hit and that in itself is a higher priority than the jewellery
The thing that puzzles me the most on this track is the 3 highway paths going over it, which blocks our view. I don't understand it. Even the third world countries with poor city planning dont have traffic going over their tracks!
I still think you're missing something obvious, it's not so much that the cars are much better at following it's that the tyres don't overheat as quickly. Previous gen cars could follow others just fine but only for a lap or two on fresh tyres. After that they would overheat (as they were designed to do). I think it's a good thing the era of fast degrading tyres seems to be coming to an end after more than 10 years.
When it comes to jewellery, I think Grosjean put it well when he was talking about how his wedding ring helped him during his incident. Whether or not you think that these kind of good luck charms have any real power, or if like me you think they are ultimately just plain objects, that doesn't matter. The important thing is how the driver feels. If, for example, a wedding ring or a religious symbol helps the driver feel safe on the track, or gives them some kind of mental fortitude to stay calm in an incident, then it could actually end up saving someone's life. It's an extreme example, but remember that this is an extreme sport. While there are certainly risks involved, it needs to be considered that there is a risk involved in everything. The FIA's job is to mitigate risk, but they simply cannot remove it entirely unless they pack up the whole show and call off F1 completely. Some of these risks are considered small enough that we agree they are acceptable. I think a good potential solution, would be to have an approval process for wearing any items of jewellery, since it still gives the FIA the ability to remove anything they deem to be dangerous, while allowing them the flexibility to make reasonable exceptions. Possibly even include a few specific and named exceptions for expediancy (example, a wedding ring of up to *dimensions and *weight). This would also mean that for the purposes of medical procedures, the medical staff will know exactly what items of jewellery are being worn by each specific driver should they need to. It would take some time to setup, but there are not so many drivers competing in formula racing that it would be impossible. Once the system is in place then it should actually be quite easy to maintain.
My take on the turn 14/15 and the possible lack of better walls is that, does the turn 12-15 need to be the way it is? Is there only 1 possible track design around that area? Could the track instead go from the current-t12 to current-t16 in a different way? The complain about the walls wouldn't be an issue entirely if the track maybe goes to the left at t12, then went through a different route to get to where the current t16 is, thus avoiding the very perimeter of the track area at current t13-t14 where the walls are at the very limit and unable to be moved back further to provide more runoff space. Of course this is assuming there are other ways to do a track through that part of the track.
Lewis's reaction to the jewelry thing is ridiculous to me. Just because the rule hasn't been enforced doesn't mean it shouldn't be. There's a new president of the FIA who's simply starting to enforce existing rules. Too often changes have only been made _after_ they were needed, and even though fires have luckily gotten extremely rare, I'd like to never have to see the kinds of injuries this rule is meant to prevent.
Does Ferrari really have the fastest engine? If so, the fact that RB can compete with them around the corners while they are sacrificing wing angle for straight line speed must mean that their floor produces far more downforce than Ferrari's, right?
Contrary to popular fanboy belief, the differences between engines aren’t enough for us to notice. Apparently Perez was down 40hp when he had his issues which resulted in a loss of 4 tenths per lap. All the difference come from aero, always has been. Vettels Red Bull won four championships because of the blown diffuser despite having the weakest engine from Renault. Ferrari lost the 2017 and 18 championships despite having the strongest engine The red bulls has always been the best in the corners so they can afford to take off a lot of wing to get straight line speed. Ferrari can’t be beaten in qualifying but makes overtaking easier in the race. It’s hard to say who has more downforce, the Ferrari seems to run a lot of wing which has been giving them a lot of advantage in the corners. Thinking about vettels Red bull, prioritising corners is a faster strategy. That’s what f1 cars are built for after all.
@@lekudos "Thinking about vettels Red bull, prioritising corners is a faster strategy. That’s what f1 cars are built for after all." Except it isn't paying off these days, is it?
@@TheUSDebt then it's already 2 races where RB has had huge straight line speed due to set up, maybe Ferrari should approach their car in this manner, plus, they are eating those tires pretty bad
@@syntheovaldy5173 maybe, or maybe Ferrari’s concept is not tailored to be set up the same way. Obviously we don’t know but I’m sure Ferrari will continue to put up a fight to RB
I didn't notice the recovery vehicle on track as dangerous, but I think if the drivers all behind the safety car, it's safe. One thing I noticed the call of SC. There was so many time as VSC, but it was clear that they need SC to recover Norris's car. Why did it take so long? One more thing: the recovery speed was slow (especially after Sainz FP crash). I don't want imagine how long the race taken if somebody crash in the same place (and if they put there a barrier, the repair time...)
It just seems like they lack the experience to properly design and build the track. Hopefully they can do a better job next time around, and these mistakes can be learned by the 2023 Vegas GP.
No, this race was not fine. Our standards are way too low. They are building tracks that are antithetical to the racing efforts made in the new design. As a newish fan, I'm concerned that F1 and other decision makers do not care, and are only focused on making money at any cost. Watching this race after the incredible GT and Trans Am events the past week was incredibly disappointing.
Honestly? This might've been the result of putting *20-22 FREAKING RACES* in consecutive seasons. I think other disciplines can get away with less and shined because they can at least choose what tracks are more suitable for racing at that time. Here, it's like F1 was in a rush for no reason.
For the argument that jewelry is banned in most other sports and so F1 should too, I think that there are significant caveats: a lot of those sports ban the jewelry as it can be dangerous/injurious *to other players* as they are (semi-)contact sports (football/soccer). Additionally, sports such as basketball banned jewelry for brand image reasons rather than any safety implications. Sports such as tennis do not ban jewelry as there are not situations where it can injure other people or players (though theoretically could injure the wearer). As for the comparison to mandates of the HANS device or fireproof suits or the halo or homologated helmets, the lack of all of these things could theoretically improve the performance of the car during a race through either weight savings, better aero potential, or lower CoG. However, wearing jewelry will only ever have the chance to worsen the CoG of the driver (since it is mostly worn on the upper body) at worst, but will generally not have any performance impact on the car. That leaves the argument that jewelry can hinder medical proceedings after a severe incident. Firstly, this would mean that the drivers would only be potentially risking the health of themselves. The only motive for the ban left is that a driver dying because of jewelry hindering quick medical recovery would damage the reputation of F1 and the FIA. Thus this leaves it as a conflict between the (literal) image of the drivers vs. the image of the FIA. I think there are other solutions than a wholesale jewelry ban that the FIA can explore. First, they could ban all jewelry that is slow to remove (fiddly or welded piercings, etc.) that would cause problems during an MRI (or X-ray and other relevant procedures). This is based on the fact that easy to remove(?) wedding rings that are likely to be MRI sensitive are excluded from the FIA's ban. Second, they could potentially require that relevant jewelry should not have sharp or hard edges that could cause snagging, and this could be enforced by a demonstration test where the relevant clothing (skintight fireproof undergarments, balaclava, suit, etc.) should have to be removed within a certain amount of time (similar to the Post-Grosjean Crash rule where drivers would have to demonstrate that they can extract themselves from the car within a set time).
Here so early the video title was still “Miami Talking pts YT”
Same.
He done did it again
i have replied just to say i was also here
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Whoever's idea was to put Australia, Imola, Miami, Catalunya and Monaco in a row on the schedule must be a really funny person
You have to look at weather. That's literally the only time you can do those circuit and still have workable temperature at the track.
Azerbaijan in a double header with Canada and then heading to Silverstone also makes you scratch your head, when COTA and the Mexican GP were put next to one another.
@@Good_Horsey gotta work around the hurricane season in the south.
@@Good_Horsey and moving Canada down would have massive weather issues
@@trance9158 but f1 could have made miami-montreal double header and set azerbaijan standalone (or clubbed baku with any other middle east race)
TV direction was dreadful this race. At one point it was nothing but Max driving around with no one around him for an entire lap while people were swapping positions left and right in the midfield. Absolutely infuriating seeing multiple cars with
Awesome observation! At one point the only reason I knew Hamilton moved up one place was the "scorecard" on the side
Im gonna re-watch that race again because I didn't think that was the case. Then again my brain could've just ignored it so im gonna re-watch it
Direction has been awful this whole season. We have seen moments were the director cuts away to a crowd shot DURING a takeover shot. It's absolutely mindboggling. Like, 'oh Leclerc is now side-by-side with Verstappen for 1st, let me just show this random mercedes fan drinking a beer'.
@@Lucade2210 The people want to see the man drink his beer
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@@Lucade2210 yeah that was terrible, the weird thing is to their credit they did cut perfectly to Lando and gasly before the crash so they obviously can get it right
Glad Chain Bear reminded me that I’m watching on YT 👍
On the Point of the missing tec-pro barrier:
The FIA actually investigated wether auch a barrier would be a Good idea at that specific corner. However they deemed it a Bad idea because such a Barrier (or any other barrier that would reduce impact forces) would have a high likeliehood to make the car bounce off the Wall and rebound into the track because of the corner specification.
This would then be a High risk of a car-to-car accident instead of a car and Wall accident which would be FAR More dangerous.
Because the speeds the cars reach at that Turn aren‘t very High to begin with, the FIA deemed it more safe to risk a few cars colliding with the Barrier rather than having a car bouncing back into Traffic and causing a huhge collision with far worse consequences.
Obviously though, the drivers disaggreed with the FIAs' assessment. Whom you believe to be right in this case is up to you, ultimately though there isn't a clear cut decision to be made.
You are right. Also they were not able to move the barriers further away because the track is build to the edge of the hard rock property. Anything that goes beyond the current barrier is property of the town so they are not able to move the barrier onto it.
If the "bouncing back onto the live track" being the issue of not putting a Tecpro, there's still an alternative to a concrete barrier in that section, and since we already in the US, it's such a perfect place to get actual SAFER barrier....
If that were the case then the tech pro at Russia turn 3 would have spat cars back out, but it didn't, think to Grosjeans 2015 shunt, or the 2020 and 2021 F2 shunts
Thats a very interesting point. I sure deem it safer to have a car-wall collision rather than a car on car collision.
@@ey7290 I am not an expert on these things but I think wether a Tecpro Barrier bounces cars back onto the track or wether it just stops them is dependend on the angle of the car at the moment of impact. From my understanding the angle with which cars would probably hit the wall at turn 14 in Miami during for example a wheel to wheel fight during the race is what makes it so likely that they would ricochet back onto the track. This dynamic appears to be different for turn 3 in Sochi (they would probably hit the wall at a much steeper angle and hence be more likely to get stuck in the barrier but again I am not an expert on this sort of thing I am just relaying information I read/heard about from the FIA).
I’ve been waiting all day for Miami Talking pts YT!
If it weren’t for the idea of quickly being able to scan in the event of serious injury, I’d agree with Lewis about the driver’s ability to wear jewelry. However, as an EMT, I can attest to how difficult, fiddly, and surprisingly time consuming it is to remove jewelry in the event that a CT scan is necessary (and we don’t even do that unless asked to lend a helping hand to nurses in the emergency department). Despite safety features getting better to protect the neck and head, when you need to not only remove metal objects so the magnetic scanner doesn’t turn them into a projectile attached to skin, but also needing to keep the head and neck as stable as humanly possible during transport, jewelry can be the difference between a fixed aneurysm leaving only minor injury and debilitating or lethal brain injuries.
It's amazing how F1 managed to go to Sochi without going to Russia. Without the safety car this would have been incredibly dull.
Totally on par that USA produces similar racing entertainment as Russia. They are essentially the same countries that chose to bomb other smaller countries.
Agreed, surprised Chain Bear sounded so optimistic about it. The lack of alternate racing lines was so painfully obvious, and that mistake generator was just the worst. To think people were calling it a potential Monaco killer... more like a Sochi replacement ffs. Mandatory resurface should be bare minimum for 2023 consideration.
I think the tv directors played a big Part in that too. There were heaps of great scraps but None of them were really shown live
@@mircoh.8367 agreed the tv director was awful this weekend
I enjoyed it better than the ones in Australia and Imola. There were good midfield battles, but they didn't show much of that. This race had 45 overtakes. It is the 2nd highest this year behind Bahrain (58) and 32 more than Imola but the tv didn't show that many. I used F1 TV and heard it had much better shots than ESPN or Sky.
While I completely agree about the tractors. But then as an ex Marshall I would say what about the guys out on track why don't we get a ultra slow zone? Going on track during a SC is still insanely scary
That should also be the case. Especially after Japan, i think the incident area must have a double waved yellow or a white flag to indicate that drivers must be ready to stop.
Dude I mean it wasn’t the greatest race,, but we had leader get passed from the Driver who started 3rd on the grid … we had some pretty good midfield battles,, GR and Ocon on recovery drives who both recovered nicely … and then we had what everyone seems to want to make a good race nowadays a safety car… With Charles putting mega pressure on Max for a few laps,, not a bad little Sunday
One thing missed in this video regarding the jewellery ban is that the rule specifically mentions necklaces, piercings and watches, but emits rings and other such objects. Rings have a much higher risk factor due to horrible things like degloving so for the FIA to enforce the rule but ignore them suggests that there is something wrong with the way they are enforcing it. Secondly, Hamilton's jewellery is all MRI scan safe and so that's not a problem either.
Historically, in American sports, the banning of jewelry has been reactionary to 'flashy' athletes who coincidentally were always black...
It's more to stop snagging on anything and stopping burns. As for the other comment, F1 isn't an American sport and doesn't exist for that reason.
@@jakem5039 It's owned by Yankees now and coincidentally shares the characteristic.
@@J5L5M6 Or you're looking for a way to make your favourite sportsperson a victim since the FIA who apply this rule is still owned and headquartered in France.
Overhyped is the perfect way to sum up this weekend. It just made me feel like the flop that was the race seem far bigger as a result, the more they hyped it, the bigger the flop it has become. You can tell it's bad when cameras spend more time looking at the "threat" of rain than what little action there was on track (well, car park more accurately)
@@harrybirchall3308 TV direction was atrocious
TV direction was the main problem. And this track is far more than a car park track imo. There were some actual elevation changes on the track. The main issue was the surface which should hopefully be changed
The fact that this was race was hyped at all is a fabrication. All I've seen is cynicism even when it was first announced. And of course the predictable dig at the fact that it's used as a car park certain months of the year (which completely disregards the labor put into setting up the event in the first place). I hope you keep this same level of scrutiny and pessimism throughout the season.
@@woogaoogaboogafooga it was hyped, far too much. COTA, when it staged its first race in 2012 left a warm glow because it is close to Austin, Texas, to enable teams, drivers and fans to sample the Texan State Capital's city life. Being a purpose built venue and being inspired by features from other race tracks, as well as bespoke aspects to the track itself meant that it was and is a superb place for a race, best of all, that first race was pretty good (there was a race long battle between the then championship leader, Sebastian Vettel and Lewis Hamilton, who was in his penultimate race with McLaren, with Hamilton ultimately coming out on top). Journalists at the time raved about it, saying the saddest part was going home. If there are concerns, they stem from those who point out that the United States has a superb array of other purpose built tracks, heck, if they wanted a venue in Florida, what's wrong with the Daytona Road Course?
There's a reason why hard core fans expressed concern about street tracks in the US. Venues like Dallas, Phoenix, Caesar's Palace and Detroit showed all the stereotype issues with street tracks, concrete walls, right angled corners and poor track conditions. In the case of Miami, nobody can deny, with the ongoing works throughout the weekend to patch up the track, that the condition of the track wasn't perfect, causing what most people who tuned for, the race, to be a snoozer for 80% of it. If the on track action doesn't live up to the hype, there's only one way to refer to it. The criticism isn't a reflection of those who worked to get the track ready, it's more criticism of F1 for not learning from the mistakes of the past.
What frustrates me, is that they have made all this effort with Miami and (next year) Las Vegas, but there are no home grown American drivers on the grid? What good is 3 Grands Prix in a country with no drivers from that country on the grid?
I'd say the most hyped event is the Monaco GP. It's always praised for its glitz and well-healed celebrities and patrons, but when the race actually gets underway it's dull and processional unless a crash happens. What's the point of having a race on a track where you don't have enough space to overtake? I know there's a great deal of tradition involved in the event, and the organizers are really passionate about it, but thinking objectively you'll realize that modern F1 has outgrown the track. Let's see how it is this year.
With the jewelry, Hamilton and Mercedes got what they asked for. After last year, they demanded that all rules apply to all drivers without exception. Fair enough, but they can’t have it both ways and demand that rules not be bent (lapped cars during a safety car) unless it’s a rule you don’t like (jewelry). Be careful what you wish for.
@N.B. That's complete bs as a justification for the newly enforced jewellery ban. First of, on safety grounds. The points highlight makes little sense when scrutinized. The melting point of skin is 40 odd degrees depending on the person. The melting point of gold is over 1000 degrees. The melting point of platinum, the alloy in lewis' nose ring melts at 1800 degrees. Meaning, by the time gold and platinum has absorbed enough heat to transfer it to one's flesh, said flesh would already be gone. So no, it's not a safety hazard. Romain Grosjean said on sky that the only part of his hand that didn't burn was underneath his wedding ring because gold is a well known heat shield. Which is why the bay of the mclaren f1 roadcar was lined with it.
It's fair to say a neck chain can potentially cause a snagging hazard which is fair. Reports from first responders say wedding rings are the most troublesome. As they're near impossible to remove due to swelling in the hands.
The fireproof undies is even stupider. Drivers must wear fireproof nomex racing suit, fireproof onesies, fireproof balaclava, fireproof socks and gloves. Not to mention helmet. If the fire is severe enough to burn through all those layers chances are you're already dead. No point protecting your dick and balls if the rest of you is charred to a crisp.
@@Bahamuttiamat Nope. None of what you said refutes what I said. I never said that there is full merit to the safety argument. I said that Lewis demanded that all rules be followed and enforced after last season. He got exactly what he asked for, and now he’s complaining about it.
I think someone forgott to change the video name
6:16 the war on jewellery... simple. Tell 'em to loose the jewellery! I run construction sites in Australia. Jewellery is pretty much banned outright from all our job sites. For safety reasons, and this includes wedding rings and religious icons. The overpaid prima donna's of F1 need to realise they're not above the rules. The F1 cockpit is their work environment, and a dangerous one. This includes rules on protective clothing as well. Hell, it's already banned from our kids touch-football comp.
Its just a bit hollow when they also choose to race in an active war zone, literally a few kilometers from missile strikes. Also how did you come to the conclusion that they're overpaid?
The only sport I'm pretty sure doesn't ban it is American Baseball, and there there's minimal contact between players or anything else that could make the jewelry dangerous.
Only on RUclips will you find someone hold a professional driver to the standards of a construction work zone
@@Sticktothemodels dude frankly they're in more danger there's a reason it's banned.
Jewelry should be banned. Shouldn’t even be a discussion. I play soccer and we can’t wear it.
I thought it was a solid race, better than the ones at Albert Park and Imola though the tv direction should be better; they didn't show much of the midfield battles. All of the Miami grand prix reviewers seem to miss that this race had 45 overtakes. It is the 2nd highest this year behind Bahrain (58) and 32 more than Imola, but we didn't see many videos in the F1 community saying that the Imola race was dull or boring.
How can yo u say that about the tv direction, It was a classy shot of the crowd, it wasn't their fault Leclerc decided to try and overtake Verstappen at right that moment. Blame the drivers for having such bad timing, not the guys who are supposed to show us what they do...... wait i think i got this the wrong way round.
@@yoeriw7099 the TV direction was bad in other races too especially the saudi race where for some reason camera kept cutting to the crowd when leclerc and max were switching positions and locking up , that entire race all the best parts was provided in replay rather than the live view.
@@thesaint5991 yeah, I start getting the feeling that whoever is in charge there doesn't like racing. Or had the orders to get pretty shots of the scenery and crowd, no matter what happened on track. I get the feeling that if you put a neutral racing fan in charge it might be better than this
Imola was super boring. I hope they don't go back next year. Miami was a little boring but not as bad as imola
1:59 cheers for reminding me Corden exists…I’d blissfully forgotten for a minute -_-
I feel like thr biggest issue in what makes a race good and fun to watch is mainly the TV directors there was a lot of overtakes we didn't see because the directors dont allow multiple events to be shown at once
About the heavy machinery on track, a good example was Juan Pablo Montoya hitting a jet dryer under caution in nascar. Accidents can happen even under yellow
I thought the main argument from Lewis was the arbitrary that stuff like wedding rings or watches would be allowed still, but maybe I'm wrong
They already don’t wear watches when racing. A lot of the teams are sponsored by watch companies so have a picture of a watch on their wrist of the race suit. You can see the top 3 putting on their watches when they go to their little podiums with their hat and water after the race
Alot of people are saying that F1 should not use this kind of track surface again, and I have to say that I strongly disagree.
F1 is about innovation, and innovation doesn't mean you give up on the first try. There can sometimes be the odd step back, but what if there is a great idea in there lurking under a few problems?
Of course they shouldn't persist if they repeatedly have the same issues, and have no way of solving it, but we should encourage F1 to try to persevere with an idea if there is a chance it improves the sport.
The surface was worse than usual, but it wasn't that bad. We even saw an on track overtake for the lead. It should make sense that a new and relatively untested composition is not immediately as good as the highly understood and highly optimised one we currently have.
For a first outing this seems like a decent result, and if they do continue with this kind of surface we should hopefully see rapid improvement to its quality.
Great Analysis Thank You
When the thing you most remember from a GP weekend is a "fake Marina" something is not right.....
Thanks for always offering so much well thought out insight! So refreshing amongst the reactivity that seemed to come out of this race. I’d love to see a breakdown of how different types of turns and track surfaces affect tyre degradation (just a suggestion obviously!)
The recovery vehicle needs a low slung attenuator (mobile crash cushion) attached on the back
They need it on all sides like rental go karts have.
I like what zandvoort have done with cranes along the track, maybe it can be done on some more places?
Maybe they can also do something about the racing which is nonexistent. We don't need two Monaco gps in a season.
@@MrYoungHegelian not the best track of the season indeed lets see how this year cars will do. But the cranes in some corners is smart specially for that kind of tracks. The cars are off the track in no time and no heavy duty vehicles on track.
Wish there were more channels like this one.
I agree with you 100%. Those tractors shouldn't be anywhere near an F1 track or any race track. Do what we did in the 80's and 90's and get a crane onsite to lift the car right off the circuit.
I agree with you %100 about heavy removal vehicles on track during a live race. Bianchi was killed by a crane parked in the runoff area. Its as simple as that. The fact that the FIA hasn't accepted their responsibility in that makes me sick...and they are still doing it. I wonder who will die next. Anyone who thinks a plastic halo is going to save your head from a 5,000 lb cast iron counterweight on the back of a truck is a fool.
It was just under yellow though, probably the biggest mistake of Charlie’s career to not SC or Red flag sooner.
Cannot believe they did not cover the concrete barriers after the practice incidents. Should have been an easy fix and they chose to ignore driver requests. Not a good look for the race directors who proclaim their interest in safety first.
Glad to have found your channel. Great episode. Subscribed.
i would have thought heavy machinery on a live track would have been instantly banned after Jules??? regardless of halos that is so dangerous.
And how else then they would get the cars out of the track?
@@SuperMafia864 it's more that they should have red flaged or established an extreme caution zone under safety car, like Chain Bear suggested, while removing the car
Well... Its's a straightforward title
Your PTSD about Bianchi is a bit over the top. Ultimately, his crash was caused by going too fast, which is why the safety car was clearly used on Sunday when they needed a tractor. As for de Villota, her crash was at a runway where the facilities aren't comparable to a Grade 1 circuit.
But my point is a tractor isn't a grade 1 safety feature. It's an unsafe anomaly
But when Spa is moving a literal mountain to make itself safer after the Hubert crash. It is surely odd that such a dangerous scenario as tractors on track is allowed to continue so long after the Bianchi crash.
@@chainbear The tractor crane is safe as long as the driver's speed is curtailed and kept under control. Hence why the safety car is deployed if it's needed. What other options do you have that don't involve stopping the race?
@@Batters56 You're conveniently ignoring all the procedures that were implemented and changed as a result of the Bianchi crash.
The surface thing was the biggest talking point imo
Locally sourced all good and well but it's gotta uphold F1 standards
"Locally sourced" = saving money because shipping dirt and rock is expensive. They ended up mixing 60% north georgia rock with 40% local limestone because they did 60% of the job they needed to do and left the remaining 40% up to wishes and hopes, basically.
@@Trendyflute Miami has dozens of massive limestone quarries. Why on earth would they not use local limestone?
What a brilliant debrief! Congrats from Spain.
On the jewelry, I think the main point is that Lewis and the FIA are in a bit of an argument right now on a lot of fronts (i.e. over the end of last season, and not attending the award ceremony) this inforcement seems more unusual in that context where the most bedazzled driver is the one with the most issues with the FIAs handling of the the rules
That argument just seems like paranoia. It’s already a rule and if you’re unhappy about the end of last season then the argument would be to start strictly enforcing rules. Can’t have it both ways
@@TheUSDebt I just mean in the video it's treated as a Hamilton being against the enforcement for the rule because it's not been enforced before and drivers should get to choose, Vs safety but the context of last season and the ongoing relationship between them is missing. I think that the point should have been made that for Hamilton it feels personal because he has the most jewelry and he did not show up to the award show and he was out spoken over last season.
@@jacoblawton6350 OK yeah I see why context would make it more clear, I just don’t think the context really makes Hamilton look any better for arguing this rule.
@@TheUSDebt think we agree then :D he is being silly but can see why he thinks it's personal
Going after jewellery for the sake of safety but not installing techpro barriers says a lot
Here when the title is ‘Miami Talking pts YT’
Looking back now and seeing Red Bull labelled as “less reliable” and Ferrari as “more reliable” made me chuckle, even if it was totally accurate at the time :)
Maybe a SAFER Barrier can be installed in the T13-15 to reduce the forces on the Driver
Yup. Miami was all foam, no beer.
Your animations are the best!!
LuLu initially disliked halo. I guess it's safe to say that he's NOT the person who understands safety.
Nice title lmao
Russell’s strategy was probably just “Fuck it latifi is likely to crash at some point might aswell slap the hards on and hope for a safety car late on”
It was a decent idea as either outcome of this plan was okay. 7th/8th without a safety car in a car that had been completely out of whack in FP3 and Qualifying. If he had the same setup from FP1 I think he might have raced aggressively but this was using the only benefit the Merc has right now with it being reliable, not to harsh on the tyres and that allows it to run on these hards at better quality for longer.
Russell has been given quite a bit of grief for being lucky which is true but a brand new circuit, street layout and as you said Latifi can seem to crash while parked so with a dodgy track surface and new track it must multiply the chances and even without it the Merc at Miami wasn't looking so good anyway but at least they got a working setup for Hamilton I suppose so now they have two cars in the top 10.
I feel like the FIA should put more effort into making the fireproof underwear comfortable. IDK why else drivers wouldn't want to wear it, and that seems like a fairly simple thing to do. As for jewelry, I'm not an expert in safety, but I do think it's important to note that different cultural groups have different beliefs on jewelry and the current regulations have little impact on what is considered normal for straight white men from western countries to wear, only impacting crosses worn by some Christians. Obviously, there are also safety concerns, but I do wonder why wedding rings are exempt but other items aren't. IMO, instead of a blanket ban, the FIA should evaluate the safety of different pieces of jewelry independently. Other sports ban jewelry because of the potential for it to be snagged, but F1 has different safety concerns.
There is this track here called CotA and its one of the best tracks ever built and then there is this Miami freeway sized parking lot thing...Florida and Texas both SUUUUUCK but when it comes to tracks one is massively better than the other. I hope they give up on this crap as soon as contracts will allow.
Coming here after reading the Autosport article on the fact it also made a loss because they wanted it to all be "first class".
Brilliant as always
Limestone is very prevalent in FL - not sure if it would actually be worth the money to rip up everything and redo it or to even put a new layer over the top.
Yeah, I can see why drivers complained about turns 14-16. The cars had to slow all the way down to 'my Vespa has more downforce' twice. I get that it was to deal with the quick elevation change, but they took what could have been a slow speed technical challenge...and took it so far that it became a no-speed tip-toe where nothing happened.
Let's see the upgrades that Ferrari brings to Barcelona. Might get them back on top
The Lando incident was terrible. VSC when it was clear it would have to be full immediately, marshalls took a month to remvoe the debris. Ooof.
The ban on jewelry would not cause any "distraction" unless some spoiled entitled Diva creates huge drama out of it and drag the sensatiolist media to focus on it for weeks.
I mean how can the enforcement of jewelry ban be that hard?
Drivers only need to remove them from their bodies and a simple site inspection will suffice
it ain't as hard as compared to reconfiguring a track layout, or track resurfacing or installing tecpro barriers right in the middle of the weekend race
Better option for safety: stop adding stupid 'street circuits'.
F1 circuits are all about THE MOST/THE BEST/THE FASTEST. At the rate F1 is going I can see the next press release now: NEW F1 GRAND PRIX CIRCUIT HAS THE MOST CONCRETE WALLS AROUND THE FASTEST BLIND CORNERS! IT'S SO EXCITING! COME JOIN US IN THE PADDOCK CLUB FOR SALTINES AND PUNCH ONLY $25K
I don’t know how Verstappen managed to get Driver of the day as Russell and Sainz saw more action
Russell keeping his top 5 finish even after bad quali and Sainz pulling a quick one to get out of DRS range of Perez 😁
The most there was from Verstappen was a simple pass at lights out for second then a boring DRS passed Leclerc on a straight 🥱
11:25 Chain bear: Ferrari is more reliable
Well that aged well
you massively understated how dull the race was
Regarding the subject of tractors on track you mentioned: I bet the tractor that killed bianci will be there at suzuka this year. They never changed thoise vehicles.
Thank you for you thoughtful analysis of the race. It’s hard to take the FIA seriously on their stance regarding jewelry and fire proof underwear when they didn’t even respond to the drivers’ requests regarding the Tekpro barriers after both Sainz and Ocon crashed in the same place with significant impact. I think Sainz’s crash was a relatively low speed crash also.
*how many drivers and crew now have COVID?* ...as absolutely no one wore masks there, normally at all the other races they have, and in Florida COVID is huge problem(one of the worst places in the world for it?) altho vastly under reported and downplayed there to remove safety concerns
I think you meant Leclerc and Sainz would have ended up behind Perez, not Verstappen, had they pitted under the safety car
With the vehicles going on track to lift cars off. Wouldn’t it be better that at every opening they have winch equipment eg a winch on a Landrover. Put a loop to hook to on every car and just pull them back behind the barriers. No vehicles on track and very quick. Also they should paint a box to stop in at each of the openings in the barriers. Drivers have to stop in the box if they have an issue on track, car in neutral wheels pointing dead ahead.
Norris’s car even on 3 wheels could have been pulled back behind the barrier easily
I hope next year things change a lot with the Miami GP. It was overhyped and in more than one ocasion I heard the flexing "best of the world" or "top of the world" in sunday. The truth is, it was below average. Add to that the amount of local celebrities that thought they were the most importan thing, the absurd amount of shots of the stantds instead of the race or the "americanization" of the different things in the event (the police thing in particular was as cringe as it gets). I like to think it was a one off mistake because they were trying a new thing and they will hear the complaints and criticism, fixing most things for the next year but, if Liberty think this is the way forward because short term profit is what they want, I predict they will lose a lot on medium/long term.
In the jewellery argument
I more agree with the FIA as it could cause more injuries than intended
But on the other hand if the driver crashes I think jewellery isn't gonna be my concern as they may have done a high G hit and that in itself is a higher priority than the jewellery
The thing that puzzles me the most on this track is the 3 highway paths going over it, which blocks our view. I don't understand it. Even the third world countries with poor city planning dont have traffic going over their tracks!
Damn sure better than Monaco.
Pts in this YT video are really good
can you consider adding sections to your videos it makes it much easier to follow. great video though.
Great point about ancillary vehicles on a live track. Can't forget about the Daytona Fireball Incident caused by Juan Pablo Montoya
Someone's forgotten to change the title from Miami Talking pts YT".
I can looking at the flags on the podium at 0:48 for instance. Are those two flags from Monaco or two from the Netherlands? Or something else? 🤔
Mickey mouse in Florida?! Who would have guessed?
Honestly, I feel like Catalunya could be a good time. I personally quite enjoy the track and I think the new cars will do well
I still think you're missing something obvious, it's not so much that the cars are much better at following it's that the tyres don't overheat as quickly. Previous gen cars could follow others just fine but only for a lap or two on fresh tyres. After that they would overheat (as they were designed to do). I think it's a good thing the era of fast degrading tyres seems to be coming to an end after more than 10 years.
Is there not a Fantasy GP episode for this race???
This upload is BRILLIANT
(haha... get it?)
Yes
When it comes to jewellery, I think Grosjean put it well when he was talking about how his wedding ring helped him during his incident.
Whether or not you think that these kind of good luck charms have any real power, or if like me you think they are ultimately just plain objects, that doesn't matter. The important thing is how the driver feels.
If, for example, a wedding ring or a religious symbol helps the driver feel safe on the track, or gives them some kind of mental fortitude to stay calm in an incident, then it could actually end up saving someone's life. It's an extreme example, but remember that this is an extreme sport.
While there are certainly risks involved, it needs to be considered that there is a risk involved in everything. The FIA's job is to mitigate risk, but they simply cannot remove it entirely unless they pack up the whole show and call off F1 completely. Some of these risks are considered small enough that we agree they are acceptable.
I think a good potential solution, would be to have an approval process for wearing any items of jewellery, since it still gives the FIA the ability to remove anything they deem to be dangerous, while allowing them the flexibility to make reasonable exceptions. Possibly even include a few specific and named exceptions for expediancy (example, a wedding ring of up to *dimensions and *weight). This would also mean that for the purposes of medical procedures, the medical staff will know exactly what items of jewellery are being worn by each specific driver should they need to.
It would take some time to setup, but there are not so many drivers competing in formula racing that it would be impossible. Once the system is in place then it should actually be quite easy to maintain.
My take on the turn 14/15 and the possible lack of better walls is that, does the turn 12-15 need to be the way it is? Is there only 1 possible track design around that area?
Could the track instead go from the current-t12 to current-t16 in a different way?
The complain about the walls wouldn't be an issue entirely if the track maybe goes to the left at t12, then went through a different route to get to where the current t16 is, thus avoiding the very perimeter of the track area at current t13-t14 where the walls are at the very limit and unable to be moved back further to provide more runoff space. Of course this is assuming there are other ways to do a track through that part of the track.
Love the intro music!
Lewis's reaction to the jewelry thing is ridiculous to me. Just because the rule hasn't been enforced doesn't mean it shouldn't be. There's a new president of the FIA who's simply starting to enforce existing rules. Too often changes have only been made _after_ they were needed, and even though fires have luckily gotten extremely rare, I'd like to never have to see the kinds of injuries this rule is meant to prevent.
I dare you to keep that title. Do it.
Kamal chicane
Excellent analogy. Thank you.
14 and 15 should be even steeper
Does Ferrari really have the fastest engine? If so, the fact that RB can compete with them around the corners while they are sacrificing wing angle for straight line speed must mean that their floor produces far more downforce than Ferrari's, right?
Contrary to popular fanboy belief, the differences between engines aren’t enough for us to notice. Apparently Perez was down 40hp when he had his issues which resulted in a loss of 4 tenths per lap. All the difference come from aero, always has been.
Vettels Red Bull won four championships because of the blown diffuser despite having the weakest engine from Renault.
Ferrari lost the 2017 and 18 championships despite having the strongest engine
The red bulls has always been the best in the corners so they can afford to take off a lot of wing to get straight line speed. Ferrari can’t be beaten in qualifying but makes overtaking easier in the race.
It’s hard to say who has more downforce, the Ferrari seems to run a lot of wing which has been giving them a lot of advantage in the corners.
Thinking about vettels Red bull, prioritising corners is a faster strategy. That’s what f1 cars are built for after all.
Based on both teams interviews, it sounds like the speed difference was due to car setup choices and not the engine
@@lekudos "Thinking about vettels Red bull, prioritising corners is a faster strategy. That’s what f1 cars are built for after all." Except it isn't paying off these days, is it?
@@TheUSDebt then it's already 2 races where RB has had huge straight line speed due to set up, maybe Ferrari should approach their car in this manner, plus, they are eating those tires pretty bad
@@syntheovaldy5173 maybe, or maybe Ferrari’s concept is not tailored to be set up the same way. Obviously we don’t know but I’m sure Ferrari will continue to put up a fight to RB
Promise you'll do this series every season, ok?
I didn't notice the recovery vehicle on track as dangerous, but I think if the drivers all behind the safety car, it's safe.
One thing I noticed the call of SC. There was so many time as VSC, but it was clear that they need SC to recover Norris's car. Why did it take so long?
One more thing: the recovery speed was slow (especially after Sainz FP crash). I don't want imagine how long the race taken if somebody crash in the same place (and if they put there a barrier, the repair time...)
So weird that Leclerc wears rings of fallen drivers/mentors and Lewis wears jewelry to be flashy... guess which one is complaining..
It just seems like they lack the experience to properly design and build the track. Hopefully they can do a better job next time around, and these mistakes can be learned by the 2023 Vegas GP.
Not even changed the video title yet haha
How is it not an automatic red flag if anything other than a race car has to come on the track?
If a driver is injured and requires surgery, they remove all jewelry before operating. Do we want to delay an operation?
Nice title!
No, this race was not fine. Our standards are way too low. They are building tracks that are antithetical to the racing efforts made in the new design.
As a newish fan, I'm concerned that F1 and other decision makers do not care, and are only focused on making money at any cost.
Watching this race after the incredible GT and Trans Am events the past week was incredibly disappointing.
Honestly? This might've been the result of putting *20-22 FREAKING RACES* in consecutive seasons. I think other disciplines can get away with less and shined because they can at least choose what tracks are more suitable for racing at that time.
Here, it's like F1 was in a rush for no reason.
@@genmeriphoton7655 A great point. I'd much rather have 10 really good races on fun tracks than 22 where overtaking is measured in DRS drive-bys.
The race was good on later parts, sadly we don't get to see it
Is the point of track design to cater to every driver's wants and needs?
For the argument that jewelry is banned in most other sports and so F1 should too, I think that there are significant caveats: a lot of those sports ban the jewelry as it can be dangerous/injurious *to other players* as they are (semi-)contact sports (football/soccer). Additionally, sports such as basketball banned jewelry for brand image reasons rather than any safety implications. Sports such as tennis do not ban jewelry as there are not situations where it can injure other people or players (though theoretically could injure the wearer).
As for the comparison to mandates of the HANS device or fireproof suits or the halo or homologated helmets, the lack of all of these things could theoretically improve the performance of the car during a race through either weight savings, better aero potential, or lower CoG. However, wearing jewelry will only ever have the chance to worsen the CoG of the driver (since it is mostly worn on the upper body) at worst, but will generally not have any performance impact on the car.
That leaves the argument that jewelry can hinder medical proceedings after a severe incident. Firstly, this would mean that the drivers would only be potentially risking the health of themselves. The only motive for the ban left is that a driver dying because of jewelry hindering quick medical recovery would damage the reputation of F1 and the FIA. Thus this leaves it as a conflict between the (literal) image of the drivers vs. the image of the FIA.
I think there are other solutions than a wholesale jewelry ban that the FIA can explore. First, they could ban all jewelry that is slow to remove (fiddly or welded piercings, etc.) that would cause problems during an MRI (or X-ray and other relevant procedures). This is based on the fact that easy to remove(?) wedding rings that are likely to be MRI sensitive are excluded from the FIA's ban. Second, they could potentially require that relevant jewelry should not have sharp or hard edges that could cause snagging, and this could be enforced by a demonstration test where the relevant clothing (skintight fireproof undergarments, balaclava, suit, etc.) should have to be removed within a certain amount of time (similar to the Post-Grosjean Crash rule where drivers would have to demonstrate that they can extract themselves from the car within a set time).
it was a good race with poor coverage