I use to be a store manager for pizza hut. I HATED this job, but after not being able to work for years becauseof having a back injury then surgery its all I could get.. I had to be in store at least 60 hr a week, no weekends off. I worked this for years, because it was the only position that got health insurance and I needed that because my now 8 yr old was diagnosed with T1 diabetes and celiac disease at 3 yrs old. Well on my only day off one week, both of my kids were really sick early morning and I had to bring them to the ER ( mainly for my T1D kid). While at the ER my boss calls and said I needed to come In Cause another manager didn't show.. I told him I couldn't and explained. He then started threatening my job because of it. It turned into a yelling match. It ended with me telling him I'm calling HR and we will see how they feel about you threatening my job, on my day off, while at the ER with my daughter's. I didn't call HR though.... instead after getting home with the kids, I went online and found an opening at a school district and applied to be a custodian. Luckily they needed help bad so I got hired a couple days later. So when I went into work that Friday I got to see my bosses face go ghost white as I told him that today was my last day and I wouldn't be there tomorrow. About 6 months later it was out of buisness because they couldn't find a replacement that could handle the job. Now I'm in a union making almost twice as much as I made there while working 20+ hours less and have the weekends off. I'm glad I finally found my self worth and left that hell hole
I'm IN HR, and I still don't go to HR when I'm unhappy. Realistically, there is nothing they can do. I specialize in Benefits, LOA and HRIS (so not anything in employee relations) but leadership doesn't actually give HR authority. I've been in HR for 10 years and trying to move to just do HRIS, because its mostly IT. If you are in HR you are either burnt out, like me, because you can't actually do good.... or you are a manipulative suck up and company hack. Edit. I also quit EPICALLY in 2019.
@@singularity___ pretty much. It's useful if you want resources for extra training paid for by the company to develop your career or something, but for anything vaguely shady they're not going to help you
Also reminds me of how "can't function without my coffee" is seen as a normal mindset. Caffeine is a drug. We're basically saying that it's a completely normal thing to be unable to function in society without drugs.
That businesses that are "short staffed" will still threaten termination over a single shift says a lot regarding work culture and how they view an employee
Last week, my work fired my coworker for accidentally stealing a sub $20 can of protein powder. He has ADHD and made a careless mistake when he was buying it. He had worked there for 4 years, and he offered to pay for it once they showed him that he had stolen it. He was also an annoyingly hard worker. Now they want me to work harder, despite my own disabilities, because "having a second person is extra." Oh yes, fire my friend for having ADHD (which I also have)... that is totally going to motivate me to do more work by myself, especially with my strong beliefs on capitalism, worker's rights, and rights for those with disabilities. That is when I realized that the company really just does not care about the employees, even now, in the middle of a labor shortage. If retention is your goal, you just dont do shit like this. The person in question found a job that paid almost as much already though, so good for him.
It says more about bad management than overall work culture. Businesses that treat their staff this poorly will go through a lot of staff and will suffer from being short staffed as a result.
It's really so weird how our culture glorifies working yourself to the bone your entire life until you are literally too old to keep doing it, just so that someone who makes 10+ times as much as you can keep getting richer
It's so true. I live in the crappy crap hole known as crappington. Aka texas... I run a shop. Work my arse off. 6 days a week. 80 hours a week. It's a lot of friggin work. Customers often tell me I look tired. I tell em yeah! Work work work. Wish I could have some time off to actually uhhhhh.... LIVE ya know? Want to hear the majority of responses I get? "Well having work is better than the alternative" "Beats having no work right?" "We should be grateful for what we have" Lol phuck all of that. And I have a good job... I can't really blame people for wanting to not work. Especially in late stage run away capitalism that treats workers worse than just about ever...
oh yes, it is why i became anti-work in the first place. at my last job i had so much free time as long as i did what was needed when it was needed, i know because i could hide where no cameras were or talk to friends without a single complaint. this was _after_ taking on a few things that i technically wasn't in charge of, just because it made the place run smoother, my basic job was literally 90% standing around unless it was spring/early summer and then we were encouraged to do the absolute minimum because of heat stroke. but god forbid anyone actually saw me doing nothing. i'd get shit if i ever spent time only doing what was needed not what the dipshit up top through looked pretty. work not for productivity, not to get the necessary done, not to make the place better, but because i should look busy. thank christ i worked outside so no manager ever bothered to check unless we were already busy. it was a good place until things started changing ( then it just became better than the other places), but what really drove me up the damn wall was the commute changing due to infinite, never ending bullshit road work (it has been 2 years since i quit, the same road work that made me late for almost a year straight is still going on for a stretch of _maybe_ 3 miles) but that is a different rant.
I used to be "pro work" and fall for that propaganda. Years later, I said fuck it. I don't owe companies anything, especially my loyalty. They're not loyal to me so I'm not loyal to them. I give the bare minimum to get work done. I work from home, get my work done, watch Netflix while working and done. I don't participate in work culture bs. I do what not needs to be done with just enough effort to make sure the work is done properly. That's it. No extra mile, no giving my 200%. Fuck that. I'm a person before an employee. Thankfully, the job has lately been understanding and easy going. Hopefully it stays that way. And if it doesn't, I'm out.
Yeah if they pay minimum give them the bare minimum it helps keeping you less stressed because you don't have to impress or stress and get sick for anyone. And I think its weird when they say we're a family but just don't get your things/ car stolen cause management won't do shit and you'll be out of luck. And "team" when you work by yourself and I'd hate to be a manager cause your going to live at work. System Definitely needs work a lot of it. But at least you can trust you work buddies.
@@mattl9972 *When I go beyond and do extra training* "Oh, thank you so much for being an asset to the team!" *When I physically and mentally cant get the amount of work done that they want because we are understaffed.* "Well, thats the expectation, so you just have to find a way."
i joined before it was cool (totally a hipster) and was suuuuuper bummed because the general consensus around the web was still weird work-cult mindsets, but it changed _so_ fast. i felt kinda hopeless before, but now there is a small chance that things improve!
@@comyuse9103 Withholding our labor is the one leverage we have as the non-capitalist class. Forgoing one's freedom, dignity and short time on this planet in exchange for an insulting wage is obscene, and it needs to be denormalized.
@@xblade11230 are you shitting me lmao. China is one of the most pro-work nations on the planet. This just shows how ignorant ppl on the internet are. China isn’t even communist anymore, they havent been at all under Xi-Jinping
Just remember that a lot of the people who call a strike "entitlement" are the people that would throw away democracy if it means they get to stay in power.
Democracy is an illusion anyway, we all vote for parties that do completely different shit to what they say they will to get in, striking/protesting is the only way to remind the government that the people merely tolerate them
Anti-work and a strike are two different thing that shouldn't be conflated with each other. Strike is a specific negotiation tactic between a union of workers and employer or union of employers. There's always two sides: you a signed a contract where you agreed to work or $9/hour, now your union comes in an coerces us to pay $13/hour; ergo maybe the unions are the assholes? Whether you agree with that proposition or not; you cannot have the same kind of debate with people who refuse to take minimum wage jobs in the first place; unless of course you're debating a fascist.
In late 2017, my oldest brother started feeling slower and weaker and in December we found out he had leukemia. Doctors didn't know how the hell he was "still alive." My mother was a manager at a Dollar Tree in our small town since 2007. She asked her boss (regional manager) for some time off. She realized that her, as a grandmother at this point too, she spent entirely too much time at work. When the boss only allowed for a week, with no regards for sympathy She called it quits. After all the years she spent meeting sales, pulling freight nonstop and doing inventory which continued to drained her, especially around the holidays she knew she wasn't going to take this anymore. She called it quits. My father is retired and together they're good moving forward in their lives. They go fishing a few times a week now (off to the sides not on a boat) and they spend more time with their grandkids and with each other. She still works, but only part time at a hospital gift shop just to "do something." My brother's cancer is in remission, and he is doing fine surrounded by his wife and kids. No matter people's reasons for leaving or working, one thing is clear, no employer has the right to your dignity, and any unfair act should not be tolerated.
And glad your brother is doing better! And that your mom quit from a terrible place A boss like that sucks I mean I'm glad she cared enough to give her time off but a week?! TBH I don't think she'd understand if she quit almost always the boss of the manger is the heartless one and is just there for the numbers and doesn't care if people get hurt and the manger has to do xyz to keep their job 😒my mom was a manager and from what ive seen its stressful and can be overwhelming firing people you like, trying to be there while being " professional" and questioning your own morality for a paycheck its so much that eventually you just quit . definitely agree if something is unfair and just wtf just leave the place, I'm trying to as well ( I like the co workers and boss but the company itself ...)
There is joy in being productive and feeling like you are contributing to a good cause... But just like with everything else, when you introduce money into the equation, all hell breaks loose and suddenly it's more worth it to you to work for a Big Corp on the other side of the world doing a repetitive soul-sucking task than to do something productive that would benefit your immediate community.
@@schnozchan6606 I agree, but there is also a difference between being exploited and feeling exploited. There are legit cases of abuse where someone is criminally undervalued and takes advantage of because of a circumstance, but there are legit cases where someone just doesn’t like working the jobs their skills allow them to.
@Hyperion 666 no, exploitation means to treat someone unfairly to benefit from their work. In a corperation, employees leverage tthe work of others to get things done. For example, the cashier of a super market has no working knowledge of the logistics systems to get the store to work the way it is. So, in order for the cashier to be employeed there needs to be the entire infrastructure of a corperations built so they that may express their skills as a cashier to benefit from that labor. Here is a working example: lets say you wanted to make money from your skills as a cashier, what context could you do that in? Can you simply be a cashier anywhere and make value from that skill? no, you need to do it in some business where that skill is relevant. So, the cashier would theoretically need to build all of that infrastructure, and take the risk of that business venture failing OR join an already established venture that has a model already built and seems to be working. If you choose the first route, congrats, you're a business owner, if you choose the second route, congrats, you're an employee that makes a portion of the profits you contribute to the over all organization. Each player in the organization bargains for their share of the profit based on the contribution they bring to the org and the scarcity of the value they bring.
People need to stop replying to work-related messages when they are not on the clock. That is literally working for free. Their messages can wait until you're being paid.
@@maxcheese382 Who the fuck cares. Get fired. Find another job. How useless are you that you need more than 6 months to get a fucking job? You can literally learn a new skill and get a job in it in that time. Think cooking, plastering, hair-dressing or driving trucks. 6 serious months and you'll be good to go. Just go for whatever has the best conditions in your area, and you'd be reasonably comfortable doing.
@@DudeWatIsThis how’s that boot taste? I’ve had plenty of jobs they aren’t hard to find I’m just saying people shouldn’t be fired if they don’t respond on their day off but the sad reality is they often are. The issue isn’t that it would be hard to find another job the problem is people are forced to put up with stuff like that because their job security is unfairly (also illegally) threatened.
@@DudeWatIsThis some people, no most people, don't have 6 months to 'learn a new skill" specifically for one job that might not even take entry level workers. They have one month tops. Time doesn't stop and wait for you to get the job dipshit, there's rent, phone bill, WiFi and garbage and sewer and transportation and insurance and any streaming service you can afford and food and supplies and more. Each month.
I had to quit my job in healthcare this year because it literally caused me to have a mental breakdown. Like how the fuck am I supposed to tell people they can't have necessary, live-saving medications because y'all are too cheap to pay for it??? And that was after my company was bought by a conglomerate which sucked away all of our good benefit and THEN turned it all into a giant call center. SN: Holy shit, dude, you've got your Master's???
@@vixen_0072 I feel you on that. There’s only so many times I could handle hysterical mothers without power in Texas, tired old men who just need their chemo, and diabetics who can’t afford their insulin and supplies. I don’t have the stomach for it.
The same thing happened to me. I was working 8 to 16 hour overnight shifts 5 days a week as a behavioral health tech. I would be ready to head out after working my 11 pm to 7 am shift, and someone would come in and tell me someone called out and I had to stay an additional 8 hours….with no breaks. I’ve had multiple seizures due to lack of sleep, I said I could work there as long as I didn’t have to work random 16 hours shifts. They said they couldn’t accommodate me, that was when I bailed It was so intense, and the residents there could be really violent depending on the day. It was really hard to operate on little to no sleep. I had to get of there. I honestly felt just as bad for the middle management, they’re also in a terrible position being stuck between the highest ups and the lower level employees. They’re catching shit from both sides.
I would say there is overlap between teacher’s pets and bootlickers buuut, I was a teacher’s pet and soc dem(back in college), learning is not a capitalist construct, authority figures in academia actually do put in work and are quite often very knowledgeable about their field not in exploiting student/student labor and care not about profit but instead getting a student from A-B (not knowing x to knowing x and being able to show proof) I think shitting on teacher’s pets misses the point that anti-capitalist critique is correct because capitalism needs exploitation, and that exploitation creates a need to shit on shitty bosses and and take big wet turds on poopy corporations who exploit workers. (For context I am an American who did not go to traditional Highschool but went to a traditional 4-year college and 1 year masters so my experience with teacher’s pets is no monolith and yes I’m white cis het male so privilege may have guided my views)
@@onyourleft5648 it was just an analogy lol. I loved school but you know there's a difference between the kid who is like that cause they love learning vs the kid who does it as a weird type thing of master/slave dynamic. Some people love being the most cherished slave even if it means they're still a slave. Being close to power is worth it, because its assumed to be safer, even if you have to sacrifice your humanity. Thats what it seems like with these bootlickers. Its better to hob nob with the higher ups, get in their good graces by any means, sometimes even fucking over other workers, but to the bosses you're still just a peasant.
@@onyourleft5648 the thing that would effect your judgement here the most is that you are neurotypical and (probably, the way you talk about it seems that way) did well in school. But regardless, the primary function of the education systems of many countries, including America, is indoctrination into capitalism. Its part of the mechanism that supports capitalism. It normalises undemocratic, usually over controlling hierarchies so much that many people go their entire lives without questioning it.
@@bilbobaggins9451 I’d say 6 months is the cut off maybe. I’ve been a nurse for 4 years but I’ve worked 4 different jobs in nursing in that time (admitted one of those was a secondment). It’s never been an issue.
@@bilbobaggins9451 There is no "it" that it is. Those people who look at your resumé are individuals. The most successful job interviews I had were ones where I didn't follow stereotypical rules but was frank and acting natural. Because I have a "no lying in a job interview" policy.
this is deliberately why I try to never ask someone what they do for a living. Even if I've just met them, I will ask anything else. A person is more than their job.
I worked at a liquor store back in college for a while. I put up with a lot of abuse (mostly from my boss but also from a few customers) in a high stress working environment. I was more concerned with being polite and 'not burning bridges' than my own wellbeing at the time, so to get out of the job I gradually whittled down my hours until I finally left for the last time. I had given my two weeks several times but my boss kept calling me in and I just couldn't say no for whatever reason. One time I was unloading the boss's car with some supplies and she was yelling at me about something. I start hearing these two other people get into a shouting match near us and I turn to see what's up - it was my boss and some random guy. The guy was standing up for me telling my boss that she can't talk to someone that way. That should have been the sign for me to get up and leave right that day.
I hear you. I used to let bosses push me around. Gaining the perspective and experience to stand up for ourselves is so empowering. Hope you've found your footing.
r/TalesfromRetail and the like are a big reason why I'm a socialist today. They showed me that I wasn't the problem at my job, but my job was the problem. No big "I Quit" story, I just transferred to a different location. COVID's been the bigger problem with things at work, but I do expect things to get better. Or I will just quit.
I used to buy into the "I am the one with the problem, if i say its society i have an ego problem" but no this shit is fucking inhumane! Working so long, in a stressful environment for shit pay is god awful and should be abolished
Socialism means government gets to steal income from the people and redistribute as they see fit. STEALING IS WRONG. And all you're doing is lining the pockets of do nothing middle persons. They produce and provide nothing. And yet the redistribution scams pay them handsomely. With your money and stolen labor. The taxes of the poor go to them, and the taxes from themselves GO BACK TO THEM, as there is massive overlap between government and the wealthy. This is why taxation makes no sense. Among other things. Capitalism is the free market and the free market is your freedom. It's in the name.
I worked as a Collector for donations, it was one of the most disgusting jobs I ever had. Everyday we needed to "score", which meant that we needed to sign up enough people for this stupid and probably fishy NGOs, I couldn't sign up anyone although you would get more money if you do so, because I felt so disguted by lying to our """costumers""". After we started to work again after the first Lockdown I quitted my Job because I simply hated it and told my boss, that he should be ashamed and simply went home.
Walking around with a donation bin and asking for money/singing pepople up is illegal in most developed nation. Glad that you dropped this before getting caught
I have a friend who used to work door to door sales and he ended up quiting because he said the methods they used were absolutely scummy and made him feel like garbage every day. I now have zero guilt refusing to answer the door when they come around.
I quit my job at target a while ago after management continually failed to address issues with rude entitled customers straight up HARASSING myself and other employees. All of us who have worked in retail are used to entitled behavior from customers and used to customer-is-always-right attitudes from mgmt, but the complete lack of care that they had for the workers went to such an extent that they tolerated customers cussing out or screaming at employees at the registers or in the aisles. This was in a very low income area and there were a lot of customers who obviously had bad lives and were trying to take it out on workers, which is understandable, but mgmt basically allowed them to do this and use us like punching bags. I didn’t formally quit, I just stopped showing up one day, and they immediately started calling me the next day threatening to fire me, which was quite funny. The worst part though was posting about it on r/target and getting no sympathy from other employees there as that sub is unfortunately full of corporate shills and bootlickers for management.
I work as a hostess at a restaurant and I really get this!! Even thought I’ve been working for over a year I still have incidents where a customer is abusive and I have to go cry in the bathroom. It ruins the whole week for me man. Treat customer service with respect and TIP WELL
Get a life. Imagine if your coworkers found out that how resentful you are about a job that your writing about it all over the internet. No shit this happened you weirdo. You have my absolute condolences in that you one day wake tf up and get a bag.
@@Mrprobonowordwide my guy, target is a megacorp that does not need to be defended, and entitled shitheads that abuse workers should be called out and refused service
When I was a manager for a well known coffee chain, all I did was stand up for and defend my staff, and the ops managers HATED me for it. Eventually they stopped inviting me to manager meetings because of it. I was once given a 'top level' disciplinary for not firing a member of staff who was a great person to work with, but the ops manager had personal drama with.
Yeah its weird how they always hate on the good mangers. They did that to my mom either sell so many of the product or fire her best manger,she quit. But its sounds like get rid of good, easy people while the other crappy people keep sucking up to ceo and manger.
The Worst is the double standard, i was in a job when a guy was really disrespectful to women to the point of physical h4r4assment, he was lazy and the whole shift was smoking but supervisors liked him (Also m1s0gyni5t1c guys), so Made the girls finish his part, he's still working there
The misogynistic brodowns are rampant. Any lying fool who likes to say patriarchy isn't alive and well all over the world can just stuff it honestly. Some of us have lived through some bad stuff. But then, so many of the men enjoy hearing that. It really validates them and they revel in our misfortune. The misfortune they create.
I love painting rooms for my family, I love working in the yard for my aging dad. I love getting back and feeling exhausted. But I think if I did those things for a paycheck, I would hate them. Just different experiences when nothing you do is appreciated. I think the number one reason people feel that way is management. Bad management is a job killer. I've never really had bad coworkers....
Agreed they take it for granted and want you to do more and better ; your just tired all the time and when they say to do x like this trust me they don't notice I try to give it my best but sometimes some things are not worth it. ( My Mom was a manager and apparently you always have to find something wrong even in your best workers and it sucks and is draining but I guess its to help improve you)
I genuinely liked working as a research assistant. I was allowed to make mistakes, encouraged to ask questions, and not berated even when those questions were a little dumb. I was treated like a person who was allowed to have a personality and emotions and my work was appreciated.
Was a busboy in a very conservative area. I paid no mind to a lot of the things my ex boss and the customers would say because it simply wasn’t worth it. They also didn’t treat our kitchen staff which consisted entirely of Latino people too great and would always use weird micro aggressions with us (I’m Latino too). I’d like to think Im a patient guy so I would always brush it off. However, one day when cleaning the tables I overheard my boss say “white power” to his friend over the phone. I didn’t really care whether or not he was joking at that point cuz you could tell he said it with a “funny cuz it’s true” kind of tone. So I quit right after. He never gave me my tips for that week lol.
Waited tables on and off for a decade. A holes joking to my face about how they were not going to tip me. Co workers trying to make me look bad in front of the managers and owner so I'd get fired or ignored on any promotions. Oh and sometimes I would work 6 hours and only make like 15 bucks in tips on top of my 2.15 a hour... I felt like offing myself several nights. They made me feel like a worthless loser who would be stuck in that crap job forever. So glad those days are behind me... For now at least : / There was this one chef who was a gigantic pos to me. Before I quit that crap job I pissed on his chef hat while he wasn't lookin while it was on his teppan kart lolz. I can be pretty vengeful : )
I'm an older millenial, and I was first pushed left wing when I had to get a job. Things have only gotten worse since then. it gives me joy that so many people are not putting up with workplace shit like they used to.
I used to think that the government was super wasteful and businesses were incentivized to be efficient, so blah blah blah, capitalism good and reform government programs to be less bloated. Oh, past me, you sweet summer child.
yeah that is our own collective doing, we gave bad employers and bad government power instead of giving the individuals power, i totally agree that we need more libertarianist thought in this government run world
I quit because my boss had to move to another state after her boyfriend passed away from covid. Her boss then told me I would become the de facto manager but I wouldn’t have any say in anything, and I wouldn’t get a raise. I was getting paid minimum wage with a manager’s responsibilities - I was getting paid the same as the people I was training.
Yup, this summer I quit my job as mailman of 8 years. They have always been extremely disrespectful like saying 5 months notice for vacation was “too soon” and treating me like shit. When covid hit we had to keep working while the managers could work from home. It has never been as busy as during the lockdown so they must have made record profits. But did we see any appreciation for that? No nothing, not a thanks or a day off or anything. Then suddenly we were going to receive a bonus. I was shocked, could it be that they found some sense of honor and duty towards their workers? Nah it wasn’t a bonus for us, the people working through rain and snow and pandemics for minimum wage. No only the full time workers got a real bonus and guess who works full time? Not the workers, we all get 30 hour work week, the managers get 40 hour work weeks and thus got 1,000 euro bonus. Even though they could work from home during covid. We got a measly 50 bucks for risking our lives and keeping society running. At that point I was already looking for new work because this was just degrading. Then they decided to change up the way we worked. It had to be greener so we got electric bikes. Even though we already used normal bikes and most of the work is be one on foot. Then first day of this new system I found out why. They gave us electric bikes so they could give us 4x the amount of mail. And they still expected us to do it in roughly the same time because “you got electric bikes this is easy” even though nearly all work is done on foot. I did my shift as agreed to, I had like 6 hours worth of mail (which means a 12 hour workday) left, rode back to the depot, parked the bike full of mail, went home and wrote my letter of resignation telling them I quit on the spot and left them a nice surprise as a show of the respect they deserve. Best thing I ever did. Now I deliver food and the work is 10x and easier, pays more and the people I work with are super nice and friendly.
@@LesterBrunt have they been privatized? I work for Canada Post, and the former CEO Moya Greene tried like hell to privatize us. When she couldn't do it here she moved to the UK and got her wish.
Communism is whatever i feel like it is, today communism is when my neighbour didnt open the elevator door for me to enter Pim Tool is a literal tool lol
@Hyperion 666 communism is total government control, where you replace the billionaire socialists (america is on the socialist scale, you can not have capitalism with government regulation, that is why you literally can only be a capitalist if you are an anarchist) with politicians being the billionairs (points to china)
@@xdinteractive I: Anarchism stands against all unjust hierarchies. Capitalism is a money-based hierarchy with the richest on the top and the rest of us toiling for them. Anarchism thusly opposes capitalism. No, anarcho-capitalists aren´t anarchists, since under their ideal society, there would still be the hierarchy upheld by capitalism. Do your maths from there. Communism is not "total government control", what communism strives for is a classless, moneyless society. That the word has been misused by various regimes doesn´t mean more than Democratic People's Republic of Korea calling itself "democratic".
@@lambslaught lol, government creates this shit where changing jobs becomes incredibly hard, under communism you can't choose what kind of job to work, in capitalism you can, antiwork is capitalism working, i hate my boss i quit, but i guess american schools are bad at educating lol
I just discovered this sub and it’s great. I’ve told a few employers to shove it. It’s all about controlling workers and a lot of it is unnecessary. Had a couple of jobs where I was treated like a human being and I was a lot more productive. One where I was left to get on with it and make the choices myself. That was the best and had very few complaints-the ones I did get were legit.
That first post got me so angry. You can do the best work possible, yet because of petty bureaucracy, you can be punished for minor "infractions", like sitting down. They want absolute, total obedience, not productivity.
Where I work, it is against company policy to listen to music... in a job that is largely repetitive, mind numbing tasks. Now, when safety or immediate customer service is an issue, thats one thing, but it's the policy all around. It is often ignored, especially by night shift, but still... why would you make a rule that makes people more miserable and less efficient?
If they know how bad it is, it's easier to get fired or get fed up with it after enough time if something new and more interesting appears. Sadly good stories are rare in capitalist dystopias.
I applied to work at a Taco Bell and was desperate. The manager I interviewed with said he could guarantee 30 hours a week, which was still my unideal amount, but I could barely afford rent at 30 hours and took it anyway. The next week he scheduled me for 20 hours, like 3-4 hours a day for six days a week, for the next two weeks and the commute was like 30 minutes in a beater car. I said “I need 30, or I’ll have to find another job.” “I’ll see what I can do next month” “No now, please.” “We’ll see how you do and then next month… (blahblahblah)” “Fuck this. I can just sell plasma and sell my stuff and find a better job”. And I left and got a job that paid a few more an hour and about 40 hours a week. Pretty much the next week or two. When all the jobs around are bottom barrel minimum wage and your work doesn’t matter anyway - your commute time and a stable schedule is the only thing that matters, for basic sanity, really. Moral of the story, if your employer isn’t offering any stability or benefits and they’re starting to re-neg on the most basic things that made you take the job in the first place, get out. In the limited time I was working there, the manager would ask everyone if they’re under 18, and if they weren’t he’d remind us he only had to give us breaks (even bathroom ones) if we were working more than 6 hours a day, which none of us were. Denied the benefit of being able to use the toilet. Awful job all around.
Taco bell was my very first job. Quit by coming in and leaving my uniform on the counter. I was in highschool at the time and they'd constantly keep me there until 1 am when I was supposed to leave at 11
I was fired immediately after reporting a safety hazard but I'm sure that doesn't count. Of course my firing was not applicable for unemployment because it was during a trial period. I guess the employer had more leverage to dictate terms for some reason hmm...
A popular Smash Bros RUclipsr called ESam once said "Nigga Go Boxing Faggot". I'm hoping that the Smash Bros community gets him kicked out. How can I help the Smash Bros community do that? He also has accused MewTwoKing who's also a popular Smash Bros eSports competitor of serious inappropriate/sexual stuff. MewTwoKing was forced to inform the Smash Bros community of his medical condition/autism in a separate RUclips video. Absolutely disgusting and manipulative individual ESam is.
Most of my bosses have been fine, with one exception. He ran a café and I washed dishes there. He was an unpleasant and short tempered man. Shortly before the Christmas market (our most busy day of the year) he gave a pep talk. "Let's work really hard today, and if we take enough we'll be going to Jamaica." By 'we' he meant him and his wife. His workers weren't going on holiday with him so why should we care? I managed to find a new job while he was in Jamaica.
Wow, thats fine to say in your head to motivate yourself, but daaamn, it's really unprofessional, demoralizing, and stupid to rub it in your employees' faces.
The heads of the store was telling everyone I have asbergers, I don’t have autism. They promised me when I started working there they would train me to do cake decorating they hired a cake decorator and she started training me but then they fired her because she had surgery on her hand and they wanted her to come back to work two weeks after her surgery and her hand kept hurting (they also didn’t like that they were paying her 15 dollars an hour) and they fired her and told everyone she resigned. A month later the new girl came in to do donut making they found out that she was pretty decent at cake decorating so they started giving the jobs they promised me I got upset and when I asked about it they defensive and said “We don’t have to give you the job just because we promised you.” They also wrote me up because coworkers saw me upset and because my output slowed down which because I called in sick because my dog died. Two coworkers kept antagonize me to the point where the would yell some days I was in tears and when I kept bringing it up with the heads of the store they gaslit and told me it was just a disagreement but other workers told me they were being shitty to me and when I was wasn’t working with these two people I was the best worker to be around. I had been working there for a whole year and put up with so much abuse and I was the best worker there it was the final straw when I found out they were giving the job I wanted to someone else and not only that they were paying the new girl 12 dollars an hour while they were only paying me 9 dollars an hour. I applied for a cake decorating and frosting job somewhere else it was the first job I applied for and I quit a week later. I’m sorry this was pretty jumbled it’s liked 3 am here.
On my first orientation they showed me a video on the dangers of unions and how unions are criminals for stealing from your paycheck. How little did I know back then.
This "work yourself to death for the glory of buying the overlords a 5th yacht" mentality *really* doesn't fly when my ancestors were literal slaves and peasants. We're not on the plantation anymore, my guy. I'm genetically incapable of working for free.
Thats why you gotta "go with the system" They've planned it for you to work to death and get you in debt cause why teach basic life skills in school.( which is another topic in it of itself😒) Work as a cop or military or government jobs be there ,do the time retire around 30 cause if I have to retire at 60! fuck that ! Save money build good credit and have some emergency money (credit cards aren't emergency money) Working to death ain't glory its a scam to make you feel special the economic system needs to change but I doubt it will that why you learn about it and put in your minimum effort .( I still can't believe people retire at 60! And it makes me sad and upset cause they can't enjoy life as they would if they were younger)
I wish I could have the mindset you and these guys have. I work overnight shifts and have had no bad experiences with my bosses, my hours are consistent and my pay is solid. I'm a socialist who wants better rights for my fellow workers but I myself have no desire to achieve those rights for myself. I have no passions to spend time on outside of work so my job is the only thing that gives me some form of structure to my life. I'm a walking conundrum.
@@TheKavernacle Lol i hear ya. Its kinda inspiring ngl. Thanks for the response. I really do appreciate the work you're doing. Ive been throwing the idea around of creating some of my own content and you're a big reason why i ever would... I intend to contribute to your patreon as soon as I can because you definitely deserve it. Keep it up man!
@@hash-slingingslasher1374 Awesome! I am glad I could inspire you to make some lefty content too? What did you have in mind? If you ever want advice or an opinion on what you are working on throw me a message on Instagram or Discord! Thanks for the nice words
@@TheKavernacle Thanks i really appreciate that....well, im passionate about international leftist movements, history, and geopolitics, but also cringey alt right wackiness and breaking down culture war rhetoric like you do. My brother is currently getting grant money from his university to stay a while in Brazil, covering the upcoming election between Lula and Bolsanaro. ill be joining him next month, so thats a good start i think. im gonna help with scripts and production. Depending on how well his channel goes/ how good i am at it, i might create my own channel as well to cover topics his uni may not approve of. Anyway thanks for reaching out, ill let you know on instagram when we get a channel going. We're both big fans and the input would be very appreciated.
The r/prowork posters sound a lot like Jordan Peterson and his lobsters. Its so sad and pathetic to see people defend and even glorify their own exploitation. Captalist social conditioning is a hell of a drug.
not my personal quit, but one I saw. Busy restaurant, downtown Seattle, I am the morning grill/fry, Lance is the evening grill/fry. I get absolutely railed my whole shift, as is tradition, not just because of how popular the restaurant is, but because it's Friday; payday. Lunch ends, family meal made, the line has been cleaned up for the evening shift, the chef de cuisine comes down, and asks "where is lance? has anyone seen lance?" There was a plate on his station, half done, just sitting there with half the order on it. Apparently he'd gotten his check, went upstairs to grab his bag, and left. Didn't say a word to anyone, didn't even finish a the plate he was working on, just left a chef holding the bag. This place was infamous for being rough on evening grill/fry and this particular incident has stuck with me through all those moments where I really consider just walking away.
Forget the bosses, that sounds fairly dickish to their coworkers. Better to leave in an explosive diatribe to the oppressors than slip out like a self centered coward.
You should see me then. I've become quite successful ever since. Meanwhile the a holes I worked with are still boot lickin while I have just about everything I could want in life.
So true. Most office jobs are unskilled labor. I was working with an SAP programmer once and she didn't know a very basic computer thing ( I don't remember what it was, only that it seemed very basic to me-- something on the level of Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V). I was like, "how did you learn SAP if you don't know that?" Alternatively, I was on a construction site and we needed to trim an inch and a half off a sheet of plywood, and this guy made a mark an inch and a half in with a measuring tape, then took a pencil and --ZIP!-- drew a perfectly straight line down the entire eight feet of plywood that was an inch and a half from the edge. I was STUNNED. I would need ten minutes and some other lumber to do that.
As an office worker, the one thing on my contract that makes my life a nightmare is the phrase “ad hoc responsibilities”, because it’s basically cart blanche for the company to assign whatever work they want to you without compensating you accordingly. There are days when half of my workload is ad hoc, usually delegated from my manager, who then tells me I need to manage my time more effectively if I have to keep working overtime to complete my tasks.
So glad you did a video on this!! I've been thinking about this so much lately. I've been lurking in the r/antiwork subreddit for over a year on and off and to see it explode like this is really awesome. The growth of r/antiwork is further highlighting that there's a huge labor movement going on right now, and it gives me hope that people are standing up to their employer and demanding better pay and working conditions! It's so cathartic reading about everyone's experience quitting their shitty job after I myself quit a shitty job last year. Power to the proletariat, baby!
I think even youtubers like yourself saying that you’re “doing what you love now “ or “following your passion” is a product of so much pro-work propaganda. Dont sell yourself short dude, youre still doing work and required to keep up with and follow youtubes ridiculous trends and algorithms to make these videos. I get why saying that these videos are passion projects helps make it more enjoyable for viewers but its still work that you dont have total control over. You dont need to love it!
100 PERCENT I have been thinking, over the past week or so, about this. About how it's okay to hate working, about how it's possible to live with the knowledge that all the shit we HAVE to do to simply get through to the next day feels like a chore BECAUSE IT IS ONE. I don't know what the way forward after these thoughts are, but I feel more at peace after acknowledging these.
In ameica currently, theres literally only a handful of jobs a normal person can do that is actually stable. The industry im planning on getting into is said to increase by 8 percent in 10 years. It sounds good but its capitalizing on the current housing crisis. Im hoping in future I can write a book exposing the industry because honestly it is so much messed up compared to what MSM tells you
Amazing how so many people in r/prowork demonstrate textbook symptoms of work addiction: Exhaustion followed by hollow satisfaction, used as an excuse to not live your life, often an escape from the wife and kids
I remember my first job, when I was 16, I worked in a cafe on the weekends as a waitress. I was the only waitress in a 60 seater cafe, and my boss completely ignored under 18 labour laws and refused me a break through my whole 8 hour shift. I fainted one day and my manager took me to the back and gave me a drink and food, but my boss (the owner) came in and screamed at me and told me to get back to work. I walked out on the spot lol
There's a special place in hell for bosses like this. I used to work in an office where the boss absolutely refused to acknowledge that we were understaffed and overworked. Daily someone would have a breakdown/panic attack at their desk, but we'd all just leave them to cry it out and get back to work. One time the fire alarm went off and half my office just stayed at their desks because they had too much work to do. My mom also worked in that office and the boss found out she was taking her work home at night to finish and the boss told her it was because she wasn't smart enough to keep up, meanwhile every single person in that office was doing the same thing. When I told my boss I wanted to go back to school to finish my bachelor's and was willing to go back to the part time position I had started at, she said there were no part time positions available even though the one I had been working had never been filled. Not only did I quit, pretty much everyone I worked with eventually followed suit.
I hate interviews so much I stuck in the same shitty job for 13 years watching people I trained get promoted above me while they repeatedly tried to fire me for having a disability. In the end I was like hey y'all wanna get rid of me that badly I'll take redundancy lol...they apparently wanted rid of me that badly and I got a chunk of money to pay off my debts, which was nice.
Waking up? You make it sound like we didn't already know. Us millennials knew that the basics of a stable income were unattainable for _years._ We just needed the right time and situation to finally do something about it
what's crazy is the current situation is creating growing class warfare among the workers themselves. i was in a walmart a few weeks ago waiting in a customer service like, after about 20 minutes of the line barely moving some guy a few heads behind me started yelling at some passerby worker that she should help out behind the customer service desk because "this is ridiculous" and she just snapped back "don't blame me blame all the leeches who don't want to work". once i heard that i was just like damn girl you see how bad this shit is at your current job why would you wish it on anyone else? madness
I've seen that, kinda. Had that conversation. It feels weird, but I usually tell them they should be getting paid more... and by implication, so should anyone they hire?
Oh fuck yes. I have this all the time from workers and customers. I started pulling out my rant saying how no, it's not that people dont want to work. They just dont want to be treated like dirt and I dont blame them. So, they went and found better jobs or decided to alter their arrangements. I find my job so soul crushing I have to limit my hours per week for my sanity, so why would I expect anyone else to do it when they have other options? I certainly won't be as soon as I have a better offer.
Don't you have especially young people working those zero contracts where it's hardly possible to live on your wage? It was used as an example to strive for here in Finland maybe already 10 years ago. Of course we have more and more of that here all the time. Never forget that if it seems good for you under capitalism, someone's being more downtrodden than you, whether that's in the global south or around the corner.
@@derpinguin5390 basically work contracts where the employer can give the employees any amount of work per week 0-40 hours. So the employee never knows if they make a meager living or not really make it at all. Maybe my recollection is faulty and it was another of many modes of holding power over the lives of workers.
RIP Anti-Work. Moderator killed millions of people work, views, and thoughts within 3 mins. Didn't even question himself at all and made everyone look like a fool. *Swivels in chair furiously*
My best quitting moment came when a restaurant that I had been working full time at for years was sold to new owners. The old owner was a great boss and is still a friend, but the new owners had no idea what they were doing, left the restaurant INSANELY short-staffed, weren't following proper food safety procedures, and were extremely harsh and rude on top of it. The new owners were a couple, and two of my coworkers were relatives-in-law (my female coworker was married to the brother of my male coworker). The female worker told the owners that she wanted to quit, and the woman who had just bought the place started having a go at her brother-in-law, presumably because she knew he actually needed the job and thus couldn't say anything. She punctuated her rant by screaming "fuck you" at him and walking away, and I remember we made eye contact and had a "what the actual fuck just happened" moment, and I was already pissed off but I assumed that would be it. I assumed wrong, and she came back into the kitchen and started having ANOTHER go at him, and what really infuriated me was that once again, she was only doing this to him because she knew he didn't want to quit despite the fact that she was running him ragged and had him doing the job of three people. Thankfully she didn't realize I already had a part-time job writing online, so I sat there listening to her pop off while taking a few moments to consider whether or not I just wanted to confront her and take my chances on my other job. It probably took me less than a minute to decide, and I just walked up to her and said "uh excuse me, you just yelled fuck you in his face and that is outrageously inappropriate". She turned to me and said "no, I said fuck IT". I responded "no, I was standing right there, and you said fuck YOU". And at this point I can't remember exactly what happened, but she started yelling at me, I quite forcefully explained that it was wildly inappropriate for her to be speaking to my coworker like that, both in terms of her tone of voice and the fact that she was essentially shit talking one of his own family members to him, and she told me to leave in not very nice terms. I went out to the front of the restaurant to get my stuff and my coworker followed, gave me a hug, asked me if I was alright, and then turned to the dude who I had completely forgotten was there to interview for a job and who had just heard this entire screaming match that we had about what a shitty asshole this woman was and said "this is just a very stressful time for us, I'm sorry about that". I left, texted my old boss who still lived five minutes away, she said OMG come to my house and tell me everything right now, I went there and one of my other coworkers happened to be there hanging out, I regaled them with the story and we all had a laugh. I started writing a lot more to make up for the lost income, thank god it's a work-from-home job so I remained employed throughout the pandemic when I 100% would have lost any restaurant job I had, and I got promoted a few times to the point where now I was offered a senior editing position literally two weeks ago. It's an extremely flexible job that I really like, where I hardly have to deal with anyone, and that I can do in my apartment in my pajamas. It was absolutely the best career decision I made and it was all ultimately driven by the fact that I just could not deal with the possibility of not telling a shitty asshole boss what a shitty asshole they truly were. It's great that the pandemic has made so many workers realize their individual worth and that life is too short to waste on some shitdicks on a power trip who almost certainly couldn't even do the job that they're mistreating you for anyway.
At my last job I worked harder than most, came in whenever I was called in and was still paid less than my white coworkers and dealt with racism. I remember being told I'm "one of the good ones" because I'm half white. That was when I decided to leave with no job lined up
Nothing feels as good as quitting a toxic work environment midway through a busy shift, then going to the pub over the road for a couple of beers... ...or so I’ve heard...I wouldn’t know cos I’m a good little worker... **cough** ...
the "I'm not asking, I'm telling" line is my favorite to see from a manager. They act as if there isn't a major labor shortage already. I could just go down the street and get another job from somebody else that also just lost 5 employees because they don't understand that there is a major labor shortage.
I used to get severe anxiety at work, i wouldn't sleep the night before because i djdnt want to go and watch my life pass me by. I now work a job i want to do and my anxiety has improved a lot and i dont spend everday feeling worthless. It's not perfect and i dont agree with the people who think you have to sacrafice your life for theatre, but it has improved my mental health so much
I have to work a job in order to fund my passion of creating art and video work. I do enjoy my job, this is my 8th job in life. It's necessary cause I would not be able to survive trying to claw my way to relevance let alone being funded by fans, but if I could do my work and make a living entertaining others with stories and art I'd do it. Who wouldn't. Just gotta find that break out project I guess.
@@kenshix7902 capitalism won’t support you pursuing your passions. Not unless that dovetails with some rich guy making money off it without having to break a sweat.
I worked at a family owned pizza place in Florida and the boss I had was not only horrible, but dangerous as well. In the span of a month of me working there, I'd already seen him berate me and my coworkers for not doing things correctly even though he'd never shown us prior and all the while trying to act like best friends outside the workplace. I realized he was a hothead that wanted everyone to be friendly to him but wanted to give none of it back. I put up with it, but once you see the signs of a toxic workplace...listen just run. Because it went from him being an asshole, to him being a creep around his own daughter, to him literally pulling an unloaded firearm on one of my coworkers as a "joke". All of that leading up to him sitting me down and fake firing me; trying to tell me I "yelled" at some of the managers in a noisy setting, saying I was going too slow even if orders always were coming out and flat out lying about things I would never do. Then he says I can "come back" in a couple days if I wanted to keep the job. I never went back. Of course, I was friends with some of my coworkers who had stayed and worked there longer than I. They told me that how I got "fired" was how the boss avoids paying for unemployment. I guess if you don't come in for the "second chance" you technically didn't get fired, just didn't show back up to the job. Fucking scum in this country.
I used to work in a pub and my friend died very suddenly and i was scheduled to work the next day and when i told my boss i wasnt coming in becuase my friend died (they had actually contacted me to ask if i was in a good enough state to come in) and they responded "next time can you give us more warning" id literally been in bed crying all day and was going to miss the wake for work. I ended up going to the wake and felt a lot better as i hadnt seen anyone who knew him after i heard the news
As a unionized worker, I am so so happy to see these types of posts and acts against their employers. My employer would never in a million years think of coming down on me or any one of my coworkers like this because we will straight up make their job a nightmare. We trained our boss, not the other way around, and we get paid a lot of money doing it.
I made minimum wage at a "local"(funny because half their board are also owners of whole foods) bookstore fresh out of highschool. I had to work overtime to make my bills and the whole thing was physically and mentally draining. I didnt get to quit in some outrageous way because it ended in a stay at the local mental health facility. Fuck toxic work enviroments
The only job I ever QUIT, I typed up my resignation and my two weeks notice, and put it on my boss's desk (he usually comes in several hours after I do.) When he came in and read it, he stuck his head out of the office and shouted "NO TWO WEEKS! IF YOU DON'T WANNA BE HERE THEN FUCK OFF!" and sent me home. My co-workers begged me to come back the next day, because I was literally the only person in the office who knew how to program the CNC machine. My resignation included ways I could help teach my replacement, but my boss decided that wasn't necessary. Good times.
@@leehalloway8787 Canada. Maybe different labor laws here than you. I hear a lot of rough things about what constitutes "just cause" if you're in the states.
The best part of these exchanges where the workers quit is that the bosses are so confidently asserting they have full control and the worker deserves no autonomy. They're bluffing because they know they need the worker, and the worker calls their bluff. Beautiful
Employers have been spoiled by years of employees who pushed and sacrificed their own health for the company and now they wonder why we are finally saying no.
It has never made a lick of sense to me working yourself to the bone during your healthiest, best years to save money for when you're old and feeble and can't do half the stuff younger you could do. Given the current state of things I don't expect the country to make it until I'm 50, let alone 65, and we could all get hit by a car tomorrow so I would much rather be able to live a fulfilling life now and foster enough good relationships to have somewhere to go and people I know to help me later in life
Pretty much all of my jobs have sucked. My first job, i was given a paycard instead of a check and was laid off without being notified. My second job i was continually sabotaged and gaslit by the more senior employees. eventually, they decided to fire me within earshot of everybody (including the customers), which triggered a severe panic attack. My third (and most recent) job was going fairly well until the owner decided to take over. He shunted me to dishes & slashed my hours, fired our best cook over a relatively minor infraction, & bragged about how he was refusing to sign off on paperwork for some of our ex-employees (INCLUDING A MAN WITH CHILDREN) to get food stamps. Eventually, i was fired after asking for better hours so i could afford to pay my college tuition
In the UK we believe we live in a democracy, but we spend 80% of our lives at work, where we have no say, aren't truly ourselves and our bosses dictate how much we get paid and what we do.
I have a story. Back in 99 my severely disabled brother passed away. The day before his funeral, my boss at the time asked me to drive to Wiltshire to work on site at a client for the day. This typically meant a long drive, long day, and a late finish that would usually mean me staying in a hotel due to the distance from my house. My boss knew my brother had died and that it was his funeral the following day, but was trying to force me because they were short of people who were able to do my job. My boss became really nasty with me when I told her that it's not something I wanted to do, considering what was going on at the time. In the end I went to the client but warned her that this wasn't the end of it. When I arrived I told the client what they were making me do (they were pretty shocked and released me early). The following day I slapped a fuck you resignation letter on her desk and within two weeks had a new, better job. I sent HR a damning letter and made her short staffing problems worse. Felt fucking awesome to walk out on my last day, saying goodbye to everyone on my team apart from my boss.
Good for you. I quit Amazon during the pandemic after years of it's oppressive atmosphere and while I can't say things have been easy, I can without a doubt say that I'm mentally doing like 200% better. Still, none of us get paid nearly enough what we should so let's unionize 🤝
i quit my last job literally the day after christmas just before the pandemic. thanks to the payments, my savings, and not living alone i have been free for 2 years. going back soon, though, its a downer but hey it looks like its gonna be better than when i left.
@@comyuse9103 right? I had some time between job--like almost a year, and it really opened my eyes to the fact that there is so much more I want to do that's not just underpaid labor and that outside the warehouse walls there's a whole world out there that I'm being kept from
@@UmbraSomnium1 every single day i wake up, even recently where i gotta be more careful with my money, has just been so much better than any day i have had since high school. even if i am feeling like absolute shit it is still better than any day i have to worry about work.
Used to work as a line cook at one of the biggest fast food chains, open 24/7. I worked night shift on fri/sat and a few more days day time, the night shift was expected to sell food, clean litteraly every machine, dishes, take out garbage, scrub the floors and get breakfast ready guess how much staff we had.... 2 people. Now i complained for months and months that we are understafed and i had to come in 1 hour early unpaid to manage to get all this done. Keep in mind fri/sat were some of our best days sales wise especially night because drunks and teens would come in and order huge amounts like 20 burgers ish per order. Earlier this year i was on vacation and came back nothing had changed no more staff or help as usuall and i just felt burnt out isntantly with all the responisbility and stress that came with the job so i quit on my first shift back after my vacation. Best decision ive made ever.
I don't know if this counts, but I worked at Panera Bread when I was 15. The GM was super passive aggressive, and being an angsty 16 year old I matched his energy directly. One of the managers (who had always been nice to me up until this night, she was older too for the average age of employee at this particular panera) was frustrated with the pace by which my coworkers and I were closing (we were closing at the same pace as always..). I think she was going on a date after clocking out and was stressed about making it there in time. I didn't feel any sympathy because she was yelling at my coworkers! She eventually started yelling at me for listening to music while cleaning up the line. I was literally on the final steps of cleaning, and here comes Jen angry as shit yelling about how I'm cleaning, even though I had been it the same way for my entire time working there. I let her yell at me, I stood there and stared at her like she was stupid, then after giving her a couple seconds of stank eye simply replied by saying, "OK". This made her so angry, she went to the other side of the counter and threatened to fire me over my "attitude" and began throwing an absolute TANTRUM. She grabbed a breadbowl and THREW IT AT ME! It was only sitting there because at the end of the nights we bag all the bread and it gets picked up and donated somewhere, so employees get first dibs on all the extras-- one of us had planned on taking a breadbowl home, apparently. They were shit out of luck because the breadbowl was now on a freshly mopped wet floor. I was in shock, here is a mid 40s year old woman throwing shit around and yelling like a baby. I helped my coworkers close and finished my shift. I wrote on a piece of receipt paper "I QUIT!" and put it on the soft drink machine with a sticker. Fuck panera, and fuck Jen.
I genuinely didn't mind the backbreaking work when I was paid well, but when the business was bought out because the owner got leukemia everyone near the bottom was fired. I never had the opportunity to make the money I did again even 10 years later. Worse than that, I then was paid less for harder work and it never seemed worth it again. I quit my last job in 2020 when covid was ramping up and I'm not re-entering the market until wages are nearly doubled.
I quit pretty much at the start of the pandemic, I quit before we had any restrictions here in Germany. It was just a part time job at a bakery, two days a week but it basically became a full time job as I was called in every single day. Even on days I said beforehand I didn't have time. I complained once, after that the calls stopped for about a week but soon started up again. I pretty much had enough when I complained the second time and got a really pissed off response in return. The manager even wanted to explain to me, how among 14 part time workers, I was the only one who always was free. On my very last day I complained to the manager directly about how shitty I was treated and you can imagine she was pissed of for the rest of the day. Probably not as bad as some other stories but still it was my worst story so far. From what I found out by talking with my co-workers it wasn't much better for most of them. It was mostly the part-time and younger workers which were exploited this way.
I quit my job at Amazon 2 days before my actual resignation date. I had 2 days of paid time off save up and i decided to use it. So basically on my last day i didn't do anything at all and i was just the break room watching RUclips and movies. Well, they didnt like that and they called in the SWAT team to get me and i was sent to the District Managers office. They interrogated me and asking me why i wasn't working. I told them the truth because at that time i was going to college and my parents where divorcing. The District Manager was understanding but my Manager was a complete Narc and told me i needed to work an extra day to make up for that time. I left the warehouse right then and there, went on a date with my Girlfriend, ate IHOP, and got laid. I used my 2 days and got paid also i got the rest of my sign on bonus which was $500. Moral of the story dont work at Amazon and always leave on a high note.
I think this is great. I think one flaw with the direction the left took within the last decades was a stupid switch towards a generalized "pro work" attitude (often inspired by a certain few strains of feminism), where work is seen as bringing inclusivity, self fulfillment and independence. Even if its the absolutely shittiest job imagineable. The homo oeconomicus model pushed by (classical and modern) liberals is stupid and its not better to be dependand on a shitty boss than to be dependant on a shitty husband. Both is awful. And many pro wage labor liberals I met almost sounded like PragerU idiocy. Its great that many people of the left again realize that wage labor is exploitation. 👍 And that being exploited does not make people free.
No one wants to work themselves to the bone anymore to make a select few assholes unfathomably rich anymore. This movement is good. We all deserve bigger pieces of the pie, not crumbs.
I'm a 53 year old woman who has given my life to a job I hate for over 30 years. It's no way to live. It's a good time for people to take back their power.
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🙏Ever consider renouncing your capitalist material possessions & going off somewhere to learn how to live selflessly while learning how to die in peace & happiness?
I use to feel so alone in wanting change for work. I use to have a job where they work you 10-12 hours a day 6 days a week. I just want a four day week that’s all. I really hope things change. I’m so thankful for this pandemic in the way I feel it opened up a lot of eyes. The thought of working for ever makes me hate life.
I worked for a major, now defunct electronics company here in the states. The GM hired me and proceeded to go on PTO the following week. Now I had accepted the job on the condition I did not have to cut my hair, and the GM said that this was fine. Assistant GM day after GM went on PTO tells me I have to cut my hair, I reply with the GM said it was fine. Assistant GM says he does not care, I need to cut my hair. At this point I think it had been three years since I had cut it? So obviously I wasn’t going to. So I quit the next morning. Not exceptionally bad, but honestly not going to cut my hair for a shitty computer sales job. Also, here I am, some 11 years later? Still haven’t cut my hair.
Ah, the age-old question: Do you listen to what your boss says or to what you're boss who's also your bosses boss says? And before you answer: The one lower in the hierarchy, the one you could more easily tell that it was their boss who said the opposite to what they just told you to do, is the one you see 95% of the time, while you see the boss who's higher up the ranks only 5% of the time.
My previous job I was oncall managing a pretty unstable system. There were only three people in the on call rotation by the time I left. My direct boss was the oncall I was secondary to, he never responded to any oncall events so I was for practical purposes oncall 2/3rds of the time. It was horrible for my sleep and my mental health, I got to the point that I had started crying when my phone went off. When I left, my bosses boss gave me an exit interview and they fired my boss the same day. My bosses boss tried to tell me that I wasn't really on call two out of three weeks because sometimes I am in the office working and that's not being on call. And then he got mad when there wasn't a way he could convince me to stay asking why I even let him do an exit interview. This was my first 'career industry job' during and after university, I tried to be my most professional but that job was legit killing me.
I've got 2 I have a medical condition which can sometimes cause me to lose consciousness, under particular stress. On this day I had already had an episode and knew that driving to my graveyard shift to run a shift was going to be pretty dangerous. When I texted my boss, I asked "would it be alright if I took the night off?" (I was 18 and scared of getting fired). He replied, "You can either come in or you can quit." To which I said "Sweet thanks, have a great night." He called me about an hour later losing his mind bc nobody showed up for the grave shift and they had to shut down. #2 Working in a shitty fast food kitchen, the owner called the store at 6:30pm, absolutely smashed, to scream at one of the employees for over an hour. The poor girl came back to the kitchen sobbing, saying she wanted to leave, but didn't want to finish out 2 weeks. I said "dude, just leave. I mean if you care to, you can ask if someone wants your shifts, but fuck this place, you don't owe her anything. Just go home, dude. Enjoy the freedom." Never saw her again, but I hope she's living her best life.
I quit my warehouse production job to work at the local record store chain. I was thrilled, I had wanted to work at this place for at least 5 years, and loved working with people and their interests. When I started I took a pay decrease and now had a half hour commute. Naturally working retail I was not allowed to sit or lean on the counters, and I was responsible for organising the book section of the store. While doing my task, the store got a call and I picked up, the customer’s record was warped, and the store generally doesn’t cover warping due to the desert climate. I asked the customer if they had gone straight home or had left the record in the car. She explained that she had left it in the car while she went shopping. I told her that the store wouldn’t cover it as it was her fault it warped. She then proceeded to scream thru the phone expletives and demand I replace her record. I told her to come in and the manager would take care of it. The manager later told me about that lady and she made a complaint against me, that I yelled at her, and the store replaced her record. Then we got the schedule for the next week, where I was scheduled for the days I had explained I couldn’t work. And my manager said “well we can’t really workout a consistent schedule ya know?” and I responded with “no I don’t, I can’t work these days” Monday morning came, I was working at the warehouse again, and got a call, my manager from the record store. “Hey Danny, you still comin in today?” “Uh nah.” then hung up I don’t harbour any anger toward that manager or the rest of the store, it just really opened my eyes to the flaws of the system and how ridiculous it could be, and led me to my anticapitalist beliefs now edit: I only lasted an entire week at this place and this is only one of several different things that pushed me back, retail workers are saints and I love y’all
what kinda fuckwit manager listens to customers? even my most soulless reptile of a boss would always come to me about complaints only to laugh at them, and that guy murdered prostitutes (probably. no proof. yet.)
I've always wanted to just do volunteer work for a living instead of "actual work" because it's far more fulfilling to make a difference instead of getting yelled at for not putting in enough effort into my job. But it's hard to donate my time when I barely have enough for mental health days because I have to work to live :,)
I use to be a store manager for pizza hut. I HATED this job, but after not being able to work for years becauseof having a back injury then surgery its all I could get.. I had to be in store at least 60 hr a week, no weekends off. I worked this for years, because it was the only position that got health insurance and I needed that because my now 8 yr old was diagnosed with T1 diabetes and celiac disease at 3 yrs old.
Well on my only day off one week, both of my kids were really sick early morning and I had to bring them to the ER ( mainly for my T1D kid). While at the ER my boss calls and said I needed to come In Cause another manager didn't show.. I told him I couldn't and explained. He then started threatening my job because of it. It turned into a yelling match. It ended with me telling him I'm calling HR and we will see how they feel about you threatening my job, on my day off, while at the ER with my daughter's.
I didn't call HR though.... instead after getting home with the kids, I went online and found an opening at a school district and applied to be a custodian. Luckily they needed help bad so I got hired a couple days later.
So when I went into work that Friday I got to see my bosses face go ghost white as I told him that today was my last day and I wouldn't be there tomorrow. About 6 months later it was out of buisness because they couldn't find a replacement that could handle the job.
Now I'm in a union making almost twice as much as I made there while working 20+ hours less and have the weekends off. I'm glad I finally found my self worth and left that hell hole
Hell yeah, great story
I'm IN HR, and I still don't go to HR when I'm unhappy. Realistically, there is nothing they can do. I specialize in Benefits, LOA and HRIS (so not anything in employee relations) but leadership doesn't actually give HR authority. I've been in HR for 10 years and trying to move to just do HRIS, because its mostly IT. If you are in HR you are either burnt out, like me, because you can't actually do good.... or you are a manipulative suck up and company hack.
Edit. I also quit EPICALLY in 2019.
@@jessigirlrae1688 I never trust HR. I see HR 100% as something designed to protect the company from the employees.
@@singularity___ pretty much. It's useful if you want resources for extra training paid for by the company to develop your career or something, but for anything vaguely shady they're not going to help you
Congrats for sticking up for yourself and it paying off! Also, hope your daughters are doing better, too! 👏👏👏👍🖤🧡🕊✌️
So that pro-work guy essentially thinks you need to drink to deal with work, I wonder why alcoholism is such a problem
Lol
Also reminds me of how "can't function without my coffee" is seen as a normal mindset. Caffeine is a drug. We're basically saying that it's a completely normal thing to be unable to function in society without drugs.
I mean, I rely on weed to survive my job and life.
@@tsharabrown3719 I rely on antidepressants otherwise i won't even look into the direction of my work computer when i'm WFH.
That businesses that are "short staffed" will still threaten termination over a single shift says a lot regarding work culture and how they view an employee
Last week, my work fired my coworker for accidentally stealing a sub $20 can of protein powder. He has ADHD and made a careless mistake when he was buying it. He had worked there for 4 years, and he offered to pay for it once they showed him that he had stolen it. He was also an annoyingly hard worker.
Now they want me to work harder, despite my own disabilities, because "having a second person is extra." Oh yes, fire my friend for having ADHD (which I also have)... that is totally going to motivate me to do more work by myself, especially with my strong beliefs on capitalism, worker's rights, and rights for those with disabilities.
That is when I realized that the company really just does not care about the employees, even now, in the middle of a labor shortage. If retention is your goal, you just dont do shit like this.
The person in question found a job that paid almost as much already though, so good for him.
@@tsharabrown3719 i don’t know if you’re American but your company could have violated the Americans with disabilities act.
It says more about bad management than overall work culture. Businesses that treat their staff this poorly will go through a lot of staff and will suffer from being short staffed as a result.
yep and thanks to libertarian thought they are free to quit their shitty jobs if they don't get enough money
They wouldn't if finding replacements cheaply wasnt so easy. But then most of the anti-work crowd are also pro mass immigration.....hmmm.
It's really so weird how our culture glorifies working yourself to the bone your entire life until you are literally too old to keep doing it, just so that someone who makes 10+ times as much as you can keep getting richer
Even more bizarre, that is not considered "selling your body" but sex work is.
It's so true. I live in the crappy crap hole known as crappington. Aka texas...
I run a shop. Work my arse off. 6 days a week. 80 hours a week. It's a lot of friggin work. Customers often tell me I look tired. I tell em yeah! Work work work. Wish I could have some time off to actually uhhhhh.... LIVE ya know?
Want to hear the majority of responses I get?
"Well having work is better than the alternative"
"Beats having no work right?"
"We should be grateful for what we have"
Lol phuck all of that. And I have a good job... I can't really blame people for wanting to not work. Especially in late stage run away capitalism that treats workers worse than just about ever...
And most of that work is to produce useless garbage that no one really wants or needs.
@@DiThi *Prostitution
oh yes, it is why i became anti-work in the first place. at my last job i had so much free time as long as i did what was needed when it was needed, i know because i could hide where no cameras were or talk to friends without a single complaint. this was _after_ taking on a few things that i technically wasn't in charge of, just because it made the place run smoother, my basic job was literally 90% standing around unless it was spring/early summer and then we were encouraged to do the absolute minimum because of heat stroke. but god forbid anyone actually saw me doing nothing. i'd get shit if i ever spent time only doing what was needed not what the dipshit up top through looked pretty. work not for productivity, not to get the necessary done, not to make the place better, but because i should look busy. thank christ i worked outside so no manager ever bothered to check unless we were already busy.
it was a good place until things started changing ( then it just became better than the other places), but what really drove me up the damn wall was the commute changing due to infinite, never ending bullshit road work (it has been 2 years since i quit, the same road work that made me late for almost a year straight is still going on for a stretch of _maybe_ 3 miles) but that is a different rant.
I used to be "pro work" and fall for that propaganda. Years later, I said fuck it. I don't owe companies anything, especially my loyalty. They're not loyal to me so I'm not loyal to them. I give the bare minimum to get work done. I work from home, get my work done, watch Netflix while working and done. I don't participate in work culture bs. I do what not needs to be done with just enough effort to make sure the work is done properly. That's it. No extra mile, no giving my 200%. Fuck that. I'm a person before an employee. Thankfully, the job has lately been understanding and easy going. Hopefully it stays that way. And if it doesn't, I'm out.
Yeah if they pay minimum give them the bare minimum it helps keeping you less stressed because you don't have to impress or stress and get sick for anyone.
And I think its weird when they say we're a family but just don't get your things/ car stolen cause management won't do shit and you'll be out of luck.
And "team" when you work by yourself and I'd hate to be a manager cause your going to live at work.
System Definitely needs work a lot of it.
But at least you can trust you work buddies.
@@mattl9972 *When I go beyond and do extra training* "Oh, thank you so much for being an asset to the team!"
*When I physically and mentally cant get the amount of work done that they want because we are understaffed.* "Well, thats the expectation, so you just have to find a way."
I've been doing the same I'm not gonna slave away my whole life for the CEO to make billions.
This anti-work movement makes me hopeful. It's a sign of growing class consciousness.
i joined before it was cool (totally a hipster) and was suuuuuper bummed because the general consensus around the web was still weird work-cult mindsets, but it changed _so_ fast. i felt kinda hopeless before, but now there is a small chance that things improve!
@@comyuse9103 Withholding our labor is the one leverage we have as the non-capitalist class. Forgoing one's freedom, dignity and short time on this planet in exchange for an insulting wage is obscene, and it needs to be denormalized.
@@Heyoka86 keep spitting facts.
Lol chinese communist propaganda hook line and sinker
@@xblade11230 are you shitting me lmao. China is one of the most pro-work nations on the planet. This just shows how ignorant ppl on the internet are. China isn’t even communist anymore, they havent been at all under Xi-Jinping
When we vote, it's 'democracy'
When we strike it's 'entitlement'
Striking is just democracy without the medium of a vote.
Just remember that a lot of the people who call a strike "entitlement" are the people that would throw away democracy if it means they get to stay in power.
Democracy is an illusion anyway, we all vote for parties that do completely different shit to what they say they will to get in, striking/protesting is the only way to remind the government that the people merely tolerate them
@@aydennichols3055 exactly. Going on strike has more genuine influence than actual institutional democracy.
In the US and UK ‘democracy’ isn’t even democratic, they both have first-past-the-post
Anti-work and a strike are two different thing that shouldn't be conflated with each other. Strike is a specific negotiation tactic between a union of workers and employer or union of employers. There's always two sides: you a signed a contract where you agreed to work or $9/hour, now your union comes in an coerces us to pay $13/hour; ergo maybe the unions are the assholes?
Whether you agree with that proposition or not; you cannot have the same kind of debate with people who refuse to take minimum wage jobs in the first place; unless of course you're debating a fascist.
In late 2017, my oldest brother started feeling slower and weaker and in December we found out he had leukemia. Doctors didn't know how the hell he was "still alive." My mother was a manager at a Dollar Tree in our small town since 2007. She asked her boss (regional manager) for some time off. She realized that her, as a grandmother at this point too, she spent entirely too much time at work. When the boss only allowed for a week, with no regards for sympathy She called it quits. After all the years she spent meeting sales, pulling freight nonstop and doing inventory which continued to drained her, especially around the holidays she knew she wasn't going to take this anymore. She called it quits. My father is retired and together they're good moving forward in their lives. They go fishing a few times a week now (off to the sides not on a boat) and they spend more time with their grandkids and with each other. She still works, but only part time at a hospital gift shop just to "do something." My brother's cancer is in remission, and he is doing fine surrounded by his wife and kids. No matter people's reasons for leaving or working, one thing is clear, no employer has the right to your dignity, and any unfair act should not be tolerated.
Agreed
And glad your brother is doing better!
And that your mom quit from a terrible place
A boss like that sucks
I mean I'm glad she cared enough to give her time off but a week?!
TBH I don't think she'd understand if she quit almost always the boss of the manger is the heartless one and is just there for the numbers and doesn't care if people get hurt and the manger has to do xyz to keep their job 😒my mom was a manager and from what ive seen its stressful and can be overwhelming firing people you like, trying to be there while being " professional" and questioning your own morality for a paycheck its so much that eventually you just quit . definitely agree if something is unfair and just wtf just leave the place, I'm trying to as well ( I like the co workers and boss but the company itself ...)
There is joy in being productive and feeling like you are contributing to a good cause... But just like with everything else, when you introduce money into the equation, all hell breaks loose and suddenly it's more worth it to you to work for a Big Corp on the other side of the world doing a repetitive soul-sucking task than to do something productive that would benefit your immediate community.
Having a good work ethic: good.
Having good work ethic exploited: very bad.
@@Uhlersoth77 this is a very important distinction that the r/prowork and conservative types don't seem to understand.
@@schnozchan6606 I agree, but there is also a difference between being exploited and feeling exploited. There are legit cases of abuse where someone is criminally undervalued and takes advantage of because of a circumstance, but there are legit cases where someone just doesn’t like working the jobs their skills allow them to.
@Hyperion 666 no, exploitation means to treat someone unfairly to benefit from their work. In a corperation, employees leverage tthe work of others to get things done. For example, the cashier of a super market has no working knowledge of the logistics systems to get the store to work the way it is. So, in order for the cashier to be employeed there needs to be the entire infrastructure of a corperations built so they that may express their skills as a cashier to benefit from that labor.
Here is a working example: lets say you wanted to make money from your skills as a cashier, what context could you do that in? Can you simply be a cashier anywhere and make value from that skill? no, you need to do it in some business where that skill is relevant. So, the cashier would theoretically need to build all of that infrastructure, and take the risk of that business venture failing OR join an already established venture that has a model already built and seems to be working. If you choose the first route, congrats, you're a business owner, if you choose the second route, congrats, you're an employee that makes a portion of the profits you contribute to the over all organization.
Each player in the organization bargains for their share of the profit based on the contribution they bring to the org and the scarcity of the value they bring.
People need to stop replying to work-related messages when they are not on the clock. That is literally working for free. Their messages can wait until you're being paid.
In theory yeah but when it comes to reality you can definitely still get fired. And if you have a shit job you ain’t takin it to court
@@maxcheese382 Collect if you're fired.
@@maxcheese382 Who the fuck cares. Get fired. Find another job. How useless are you that you need more than 6 months to get a fucking job? You can literally learn a new skill and get a job in it in that time. Think cooking, plastering, hair-dressing or driving trucks. 6 serious months and you'll be good to go.
Just go for whatever has the best conditions in your area, and you'd be reasonably comfortable doing.
@@DudeWatIsThis how’s that boot taste? I’ve had plenty of jobs they aren’t hard to find I’m just saying people shouldn’t be fired if they don’t respond on their day off but the sad reality is they often are. The issue isn’t that it would be hard to find another job the problem is people are forced to put up with stuff like that because their job security is unfairly (also illegally) threatened.
@@DudeWatIsThis some people, no most people, don't have 6 months to 'learn a new skill" specifically for one job that might not even take entry level workers. They have one month tops. Time doesn't stop and wait for you to get the job dipshit, there's rent, phone bill, WiFi and garbage and sewer and transportation and insurance and any streaming service you can afford and food and supplies and more. Each month.
I had to quit my job in healthcare this year because it literally caused me to have a mental breakdown. Like how the fuck am I supposed to tell people they can't have necessary, live-saving medications because y'all are too cheap to pay for it??? And that was after my company was bought by a conglomerate which sucked away all of our good benefit and THEN turned it all into a giant call center.
SN: Holy shit, dude, you've got your Master's???
I resonate with this soo much. I sold Medicare last season and it fucking sucked.
@@vixen_0072 I feel you on that. There’s only so many times I could handle hysterical mothers without power in Texas, tired old men who just need their chemo, and diabetics who can’t afford their insulin and supplies. I don’t have the stomach for it.
@@ZeroN1neZero f'n Texas! I swear. That's where I was as well.
The same thing happened to me. I was working 8 to 16 hour overnight shifts 5 days a week as a behavioral health tech. I would be ready to head out after working my 11 pm to 7 am shift, and someone would come in and tell me someone called out and I had to stay an additional 8 hours….with no breaks. I’ve had multiple seizures due to lack of sleep, I said I could work there as long as I didn’t have to work random 16 hours shifts. They said they couldn’t accommodate me, that was when I bailed
It was so intense, and the residents there could be really violent depending on the day. It was really hard to operate on little to no sleep. I had to get of there.
I honestly felt just as bad for the middle management, they’re also in a terrible position being stuck between the highest ups and the lower level employees. They’re catching shit from both sides.
Just started a job in medical billing... 😬
Those "pro-worker" may be even worse. They are adult versions of a "teacher's pet". Anything to impress those above them
I would say there is overlap between teacher’s pets and bootlickers buuut, I was a teacher’s pet and soc dem(back in college), learning is not a capitalist construct, authority figures in academia actually do put in work and are quite often very knowledgeable about their field not in exploiting student/student labor and care not about profit but instead getting a student from A-B (not knowing x to knowing x and being able to show proof)
I think shitting on teacher’s pets misses the point that anti-capitalist critique is correct because capitalism needs exploitation, and that exploitation creates a need to shit on shitty bosses and and take big wet turds on poopy corporations who exploit workers.
(For context I am an American who did not go to traditional Highschool but went to a traditional 4-year college and 1 year masters so my experience with teacher’s pets is no monolith and yes I’m white cis het male so privilege may have guided my views)
@@onyourleft5648 it was just an analogy lol. I loved school but you know there's a difference between the kid who is like that cause they love learning vs the kid who does it as a weird type thing of master/slave dynamic. Some people love being the most cherished slave even if it means they're still a slave. Being close to power is worth it, because its assumed to be safer, even if you have to sacrifice your humanity. Thats what it seems like with these bootlickers. Its better to hob nob with the higher ups, get in their good graces by any means, sometimes even fucking over other workers, but to the bosses you're still just a peasant.
@@gelly123agreed and I think that clarifies what I perceived as missing from the original post, have a good day comrade
@@onyourleft5648 wow comrad! I'm part of the club lol. Have a good one too, stay strong!
@@onyourleft5648 the thing that would effect your judgement here the most is that you are neurotypical and (probably, the way you talk about it seems that way) did well in school. But regardless, the primary function of the education systems of many countries, including America, is indoctrination into capitalism. Its part of the mechanism that supports capitalism. It normalises undemocratic, usually over controlling hierarchies so much that many people go their entire lives without questioning it.
Work becomes your whole identity, we ask ‘what do you do?’ rather than ‘how are you doing?’
@@bilbobaggins9451 and most people do 2 or 3 different careers in a lifetime. I’m a nurse now but who knows what I’ll be doing in 10 years time.
@@bilbobaggins9451 I’d say 6 months is the cut off maybe. I’ve been a nurse for 4 years but I’ve worked 4 different jobs in nursing in that time (admitted one of those was a secondment). It’s never been an issue.
@@bilbobaggins9451 There is no "it" that it is. Those people who look at your resumé are individuals. The most successful job interviews I had were ones where I didn't follow stereotypical rules but was frank and acting natural. Because I have a "no lying in a job interview" policy.
@@bilbobaggins9451 No, they ask you what you want to *BE* when you grow up - it's just taken for granted that what you do for a job is what you are.
this is deliberately why I try to never ask someone what they do for a living. Even if I've just met them, I will ask anything else. A person is more than their job.
I worked at a liquor store back in college for a while. I put up with a lot of abuse (mostly from my boss but also from a few customers) in a high stress working environment. I was more concerned with being polite and 'not burning bridges' than my own wellbeing at the time, so to get out of the job I gradually whittled down my hours until I finally left for the last time. I had given my two weeks several times but my boss kept calling me in and I just couldn't say no for whatever reason.
One time I was unloading the boss's car with some supplies and she was yelling at me about something. I start hearing these two other people get into a shouting match near us and I turn to see what's up - it was my boss and some random guy. The guy was standing up for me telling my boss that she can't talk to someone that way. That should have been the sign for me to get up and leave right that day.
I hear you. I used to let bosses push me around. Gaining the perspective and experience to stand up for ourselves is so empowering. Hope you've found your footing.
Props to that stranger.
r/TalesfromRetail and the like are a big reason why I'm a socialist today.
They showed me that I wasn't the problem at my job, but my job was the problem. No big "I Quit" story, I just transferred to a different location. COVID's been the bigger problem with things at work, but I do expect things to get better. Or I will just quit.
I used to buy into the "I am the one with the problem, if i say its society i have an ego problem" but no this shit is fucking inhumane! Working so long, in a stressful environment for shit pay is god awful and should be abolished
The subreddit is not about socialism. It's about fighting for better human conditions.
@@ivangh94 Tbf, it was Socialists(And, at the very least Left-leaners/Center-left people)who went to bat for these conditions to be better.
Socialism means government gets to steal income from the people and redistribute as they see fit. STEALING IS WRONG. And all you're doing is lining the pockets of do nothing middle persons. They produce and provide nothing. And yet the redistribution scams pay them handsomely. With your money and stolen labor.
The taxes of the poor go to them, and the taxes from themselves GO BACK TO THEM, as there is massive overlap between government and the wealthy.
This is why taxation makes no sense. Among other things.
Capitalism is the free market and the free market is your freedom. It's in the name.
@@ivangh94same thing.
I worked as a Collector for donations, it was one of the most disgusting jobs I ever had. Everyday we needed to "score", which meant that we needed to sign up enough people for this stupid and probably fishy NGOs, I couldn't sign up anyone although you would get more money if you do so, because I felt so disguted by lying to our """costumers""". After we started to work again after the first Lockdown I quitted my Job because I simply hated it and told my boss, that he should be ashamed and simply went home.
Walking around with a donation bin and asking for money/singing pepople up is illegal in most developed nation. Glad that you dropped this before getting caught
@@anpatman Its not illegal in germany, but it felt illegal and I am still pretty happy that I quitted, one of the best decisions I ever had.
I'm from Germany too and nearly agreed to do this work as well
I have a friend who used to work door to door sales and he ended up quiting because he said the methods they used were absolutely scummy and made him feel like garbage every day. I now have zero guilt refusing to answer the door when they come around.
I quit my job at target a while ago after management continually failed to address issues with rude entitled customers straight up HARASSING myself and other employees. All of us who have worked in retail are used to entitled behavior from customers and used to customer-is-always-right attitudes from mgmt, but the complete lack of care that they had for the workers went to such an extent that they tolerated customers cussing out or screaming at employees at the registers or in the aisles.
This was in a very low income area and there were a lot of customers who obviously had bad lives and were trying to take it out on workers, which is understandable, but mgmt basically allowed them to do this and use us like punching bags.
I didn’t formally quit, I just stopped showing up one day, and they immediately started calling me the next day threatening to fire me, which was quite funny.
The worst part though was posting about it on r/target and getting no sympathy from other employees there as that sub is unfortunately full of corporate shills and bootlickers for management.
I work as a hostess at a restaurant and I really get this!! Even thought I’ve been working for over a year I still have incidents where a customer is abusive and I have to go cry in the bathroom. It ruins the whole week for me man. Treat customer service with respect and TIP WELL
Get a life. Imagine if your coworkers found out that how resentful you are about a job that your writing about it all over the internet. No shit this happened you weirdo. You have my absolute condolences in that you one day wake tf up and get a bag.
@@Mrprobonowordwide my guy, target is a megacorp that does not need to be defended, and entitled shitheads that abuse workers should be called out and refused service
@@TheChannelTroll tru
When I was a manager for a well known coffee chain, all I did was stand up for and defend my staff, and the ops managers HATED me for it. Eventually they stopped inviting me to manager meetings because of it. I was once given a 'top level' disciplinary for not firing a member of staff who was a great person to work with, but the ops manager had personal drama with.
Yeah its weird how they always hate on the good mangers.
They did that to my mom either sell so many of the product or fire her best manger,she quit. But its sounds like get rid of good, easy people while the other crappy people keep sucking up to ceo and manger.
They want yesmen. They have no room for ppl with empathy or even ppl that question their orders.
The Worst is the double standard, i was in a job when a guy was really disrespectful to women to the point of physical h4r4assment, he was lazy and the whole shift was smoking but supervisors liked him (Also m1s0gyni5t1c guys), so Made the girls finish his part, he's still working there
The misogynistic brodowns are rampant. Any lying fool who likes to say patriarchy isn't alive and well all over the world can just stuff it honestly. Some of us have lived through some bad stuff. But then, so many of the men enjoy hearing that. It really validates them and they revel in our misfortune. The misfortune they create.
I love painting rooms for my family, I love working in the yard for my aging dad. I love getting back and feeling exhausted. But I think if I did those things for a paycheck, I would hate them. Just different experiences when nothing you do is appreciated. I think the number one reason people feel that way is management. Bad management is a job killer. I've never really had bad coworkers....
Add money to the equation, they'll point out flaws.
Agreed they take it for granted and want you to do more and better ; your just tired all the time and when they say to do x like this trust me they don't notice I try to give it my best but sometimes some things are not worth it.
( My Mom was a manager and apparently you always have to find something wrong even in your best workers and it sucks and is draining but I guess its to help improve you)
I genuinely liked working as a research assistant. I was allowed to make mistakes, encouraged to ask questions, and not berated even when those questions were a little dumb. I was treated like a person who was allowed to have a personality and emotions and my work was appreciated.
Was a busboy in a very conservative area. I paid no mind to a lot of the things my ex boss and the customers would say because it simply wasn’t worth it. They also didn’t treat our kitchen staff which consisted entirely of Latino people too great and would always use weird micro aggressions with us (I’m Latino too). I’d like to think Im a patient guy so I would always brush it off. However, one day when cleaning the tables I overheard my boss say “white power” to his friend over the phone. I didn’t really care whether or not he was joking at that point cuz you could tell he said it with a “funny cuz it’s true” kind of tone. So I quit right after. He never gave me my tips for that week lol.
Waited tables on and off for a decade. A holes joking to my face about how they were not going to tip me. Co workers trying to make me look bad in front of the managers and owner so I'd get fired or ignored on any promotions. Oh and sometimes I would work 6 hours and only make like 15 bucks in tips on top of my 2.15 a hour... I felt like offing myself several nights. They made me feel like a worthless loser who would be stuck in that crap job forever.
So glad those days are behind me... For now at least : /
There was this one chef who was a gigantic pos to me. Before I quit that crap job I pissed on his chef hat while he wasn't lookin while it was on his teppan kart lolz. I can be pretty vengeful : )
Dude that's fucked. Hope ur doing better now
Where was this?
should have got your money before you quit
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 if you don't make minimum wage after tips, the store has to make up the difference
I'm an older millenial, and I was first pushed left wing when I had to get a job. Things have only gotten worse since then. it gives me joy that so many people are not putting up with workplace shit like they used to.
I used to think that the government was super wasteful and businesses were incentivized to be efficient, so blah blah blah, capitalism good and reform government programs to be less bloated.
Oh, past me, you sweet summer child.
yeah that is our own collective doing, we gave bad employers and bad government power instead of giving the individuals power, i totally agree that we need more libertarianist thought in this government run world
I quit because my boss had to move to another state after her boyfriend passed away from covid. Her boss then told me I would become the de facto manager but I wouldn’t have any say in anything, and I wouldn’t get a raise. I was getting paid minimum wage with a manager’s responsibilities - I was getting paid the same as the people I was training.
Yup, this summer I quit my job as mailman of 8 years. They have always been extremely disrespectful like saying 5 months notice for vacation was “too soon” and treating me like shit.
When covid hit we had to keep working while the managers could work from home. It has never been as busy as during the lockdown so they must have made record profits. But did we see any appreciation for that? No nothing, not a thanks or a day off or anything.
Then suddenly we were going to receive a bonus. I was shocked, could it be that they found some sense of honor and duty towards their workers? Nah it wasn’t a bonus for us, the people working through rain and snow and pandemics for minimum wage. No only the full time workers got a real bonus and guess who works full time? Not the workers, we all get 30 hour work week, the managers get 40 hour work weeks and thus got 1,000 euro bonus. Even though they could work from home during covid. We got a measly 50 bucks for risking our lives and keeping society running.
At that point I was already looking for new work because this was just degrading. Then they decided to change up the way we worked. It had to be greener so we got electric bikes. Even though we already used normal bikes and most of the work is be one on foot. Then first day of this new system I found out why. They gave us electric bikes so they could give us 4x the amount of mail. And they still expected us to do it in roughly the same time because “you got electric bikes this is easy” even though nearly all work is done on foot.
I did my shift as agreed to, I had like 6 hours worth of mail (which means a 12 hour workday) left, rode back to the depot, parked the bike full of mail, went home and wrote my letter of resignation telling them I quit on the spot and left them a nice surprise as a show of the respect they deserve. Best thing I ever did. Now I deliver food and the work is 10x and easier, pays more and the people I work with are super nice and friendly.
Lester Brunt
Where is this? In the UK? They privatized the Royal Mail, didn't they?
@@YoYo_Ma Dutch mail
PostNL
@@LesterBrunt have they been privatized?
I work for Canada Post, and the former CEO Moya Greene tried like hell to privatize us. When she couldn't do it here she moved to the UK and got her wish.
Meanwhile, Tim Pool: "actually this is about how bad communism is"
Communism is whatever i feel like it is, today communism is when my neighbour didnt open the elevator door for me to enter
Pim Tool is a literal tool lol
Both systems are toxic so yeah if people want better they're gonna need something new.
Tim Pool needs to go take a nap and never get back on the internet.
@Hyperion 666 communism is total government control, where you replace the billionaire socialists (america is on the socialist scale, you can not have capitalism with government regulation, that is why you literally can only be a capitalist if you are an anarchist) with politicians being the billionairs (points to china)
@@xdinteractive I: Anarchism stands against all unjust hierarchies. Capitalism is a money-based hierarchy with the richest on the top and the rest of us toiling for them. Anarchism thusly opposes capitalism. No, anarcho-capitalists aren´t anarchists, since under their ideal society, there would still be the hierarchy upheld by capitalism. Do your maths from there.
Communism is not "total government control", what communism strives for is a classless, moneyless society. That the word has been misused by various regimes doesn´t mean more than Democratic People's Republic of Korea calling itself "democratic".
"You really want to put your insurance on the line?" See, that's the sort of "freedom of choice" you get with capitalism.
yeah yeah capitalism is when you can't quit your job, try educating yourself
@@BasicEndjo to over simplify it, it is
@@lambslaught lol, government creates this shit where changing jobs becomes incredibly hard, under communism you can't choose what kind of job to work, in capitalism you can, antiwork is capitalism working, i hate my boss i quit, but i guess american schools are bad at educating lol
I just discovered this sub and it’s great. I’ve told a few employers to shove it. It’s all about controlling workers and a lot of it is unnecessary. Had a couple of jobs where I was treated like a human being and I was a lot more productive. One where I was left to get on with it and make the choices myself. That was the best and had very few complaints-the ones I did get were legit.
Those r/prowork threads read like astroturf made in like 5 minutes
That first post got me so angry. You can do the best work possible, yet because of petty bureaucracy, you can be punished for minor "infractions", like sitting down. They want absolute, total obedience, not productivity.
Where I work, it is against company policy to listen to music... in a job that is largely repetitive, mind numbing tasks. Now, when safety or immediate customer service is an issue, thats one thing, but it's the policy all around. It is often ignored, especially by night shift, but still... why would you make a rule that makes people more miserable and less efficient?
Maybe it's just me but it kind of reads like a r/thatHappened post.
@@jaryRim I: Nothing is "too bad to be true" in this capitalist dystopia 😔
If they know how bad it is, it's easier to get fired or get fed up with it after enough time if something new and more interesting appears.
Sadly good stories are rare in capitalist dystopias.
I applied to work at a Taco Bell and was desperate. The manager I interviewed with said he could guarantee 30 hours a week, which was still my unideal amount, but I could barely afford rent at 30 hours and took it anyway. The next week he scheduled me for 20 hours, like 3-4 hours a day for six days a week, for the next two weeks and the commute was like 30 minutes in a beater car. I said “I need 30, or I’ll have to find another job.” “I’ll see what I can do next month” “No now, please.” “We’ll see how you do and then next month… (blahblahblah)” “Fuck this. I can just sell plasma and sell my stuff and find a better job”. And I left and got a job that paid a few more an hour and about 40 hours a week. Pretty much the next week or two.
When all the jobs around are bottom barrel minimum wage and your work doesn’t matter anyway - your commute time and a stable schedule is the only thing that matters, for basic sanity, really.
Moral of the story, if your employer isn’t offering any stability or benefits and they’re starting to re-neg on the most basic things that made you take the job in the first place, get out.
In the limited time I was working there, the manager would ask everyone if they’re under 18, and if they weren’t he’d remind us he only had to give us breaks (even bathroom ones) if we were working more than 6 hours a day, which none of us were. Denied the benefit of being able to use the toilet. Awful job all around.
Taco bell was my very first job. Quit by coming in and leaving my uniform on the counter. I was in highschool at the time and they'd constantly keep me there until 1 am when I was supposed to leave at 11
I’ll pin the best comment of anyone who has a good story of quitting their job
ruclips.net/video/9A4UGtM4hDQ/видео.html
Backstory: ruclips.net/video/Mzhm0_ucs8g/видео.html
On second though you should hit this person up, I'd love an interview on your channel!
I was fired immediately after reporting a safety hazard but I'm sure that doesn't count. Of course my firing was not applicable for unemployment because it was during a trial period. I guess the employer had more leverage to dictate terms for some reason hmm...
A popular Smash Bros RUclipsr called ESam once said "Nigga Go Boxing Faggot". I'm hoping that the Smash Bros community gets him kicked out. How can I help the Smash Bros community do that? He also has accused MewTwoKing who's also a popular Smash Bros eSports competitor of serious inappropriate/sexual stuff. MewTwoKing was forced to inform the Smash Bros community of his medical condition/autism in a separate RUclips video. Absolutely disgusting and manipulative individual ESam is.
Most of my bosses have been fine, with one exception. He ran a café and I washed dishes there. He was an unpleasant and short tempered man.
Shortly before the Christmas market (our most busy day of the year) he gave a pep talk. "Let's work really hard today, and if we take enough we'll be going to Jamaica." By 'we' he meant him and his wife. His workers weren't going on holiday with him so why should we care?
I managed to find a new job while he was in Jamaica.
Wow, thats fine to say in your head to motivate yourself, but daaamn, it's really unprofessional, demoralizing, and stupid to rub it in your employees' faces.
The heads of the store was telling everyone I have asbergers, I don’t have autism. They promised me when I started working there they would train me to do cake decorating they hired a cake decorator and she started training me but then they fired her because she had surgery on her hand and they wanted her to come back to work two weeks after her surgery and her hand kept hurting (they also didn’t like that they were paying her 15 dollars an hour) and they fired her and told everyone she resigned. A month later the new girl came in to do donut making they found out that she was pretty decent at cake decorating so they started giving the jobs they promised me I got upset and when I asked about it they defensive and said “We don’t have to give you the job just because we promised you.” They also wrote me up because coworkers saw me upset and because my output slowed down which because I called in sick because my dog died. Two coworkers kept antagonize me to the point where the would yell some days I was in tears and when I kept bringing it up with the heads of the store they gaslit and told me it was just a disagreement but other workers told me they were being shitty to me and when I was wasn’t working with these two people I was the best worker to be around. I had been working there for a whole year and put up with so much abuse and I was the best worker there it was the final straw when I found out they were giving the job I wanted to someone else and not only that they were paying the new girl 12 dollars an hour while they were only paying me 9 dollars an hour. I applied for a cake decorating and frosting job somewhere else it was the first job I applied for and I quit a week later. I’m sorry this was pretty jumbled it’s liked 3 am here.
I hope your cakes are nicer now!
It's good you're practicing cake decoration. Once society collapses and the Hunger Games begin, you can disguise yourself as a tree.
I’m so glad you left.
Horrifying to hear autism being used as an insult like that
@@johannageisel5390 I: I feel bad for laughing, since it´s a horrifying prospect, but still the reference made my day, so thanks
On my first orientation they showed me a video on the dangers of unions and how unions are criminals for stealing from your paycheck. How little did I know back then.
This "work yourself to death for the glory of buying the overlords a 5th yacht" mentality *really* doesn't fly when my ancestors were literal slaves and peasants.
We're not on the plantation anymore, my guy. I'm genetically incapable of working for free.
You can still be scammed for your labour. You are being scammed.
Thats why you gotta "go with the system"
They've planned it for you to work to death and get you in debt cause why teach basic life skills in school.( which is another topic in it of itself😒)
Work as a cop or military or government jobs be there ,do the time retire around 30 cause if I have to retire at 60! fuck that !
Save money build good credit and have some emergency money (credit cards aren't emergency money)
Working to death ain't glory its a scam to make you feel special the economic system needs to change but I doubt it will that why you learn about it and put in your minimum effort .( I still can't believe people retire at 60! And it makes me sad and upset cause they can't enjoy life as they would if they were younger)
loving the more anti imperialist, anti capitalist videos - good to see you not only focusing on the culture wars
I wish I could have the mindset you and these guys have. I work overnight shifts and have had no bad experiences with my bosses, my hours are consistent and my pay is solid. I'm a socialist who wants better rights for my fellow workers but I myself have no desire to achieve those rights for myself. I have no passions to spend time on outside of work so my job is the only thing that gives me some form of structure to my life.
I'm a walking conundrum.
“I’m a walking conundrum.”
Aren’t we all?
It's enough to want the best for others
Cause I'm ok with my job doesn't mean I'm not anti-work...lol
This aged perfectly.
How the hell do you put out so much content? You're a machine
Hopefully the story about my own experience at work shows what put a fire under my ass lol
@@TheKavernacle
Lol i hear ya. Its kinda inspiring ngl. Thanks for the response. I really do appreciate the work you're doing. Ive been throwing the idea around of creating some of my own content and you're a big reason why i ever would... I intend to contribute to your patreon as soon as I can because you definitely deserve it. Keep it up man!
He has a good manager
@@hash-slingingslasher1374 Awesome! I am glad I could inspire you to make some lefty content too? What did you have in mind? If you ever want advice or an opinion on what you are working on throw me a message on Instagram or Discord! Thanks for the nice words
@@TheKavernacle
Thanks i really appreciate that....well, im passionate about international leftist movements, history, and geopolitics, but also cringey alt right wackiness and breaking down culture war rhetoric like you do. My brother is currently getting grant money from his university to stay a while in Brazil, covering the upcoming election between Lula and Bolsanaro. ill be joining him next month, so thats a good start i think. im gonna help with scripts and production.
Depending on how well his channel goes/ how good i am at it, i might create my own channel as well to cover topics his uni may not approve of.
Anyway thanks for reaching out, ill let you know on instagram when we get a channel going. We're both big fans and the input would be very appreciated.
The r/prowork posters sound a lot like Jordan Peterson and his lobsters. Its so sad and pathetic to see people defend and even glorify their own exploitation. Captalist social conditioning is a hell of a drug.
Some people are addicted to copium
So is your socialist / Marxist / communist BS.
@@egorkhristov2467 hurr durr yyyyy... Yyyouu too!!!11!
@@egorkhristov2467 How is taking charge of your own value as a person copium? Why should I sacrifice my life for rich people?
tell that to the conditioning that killed millions of Jews and minorities in Germany or starved tens of millions in Russia.... But ya capitalism BAD
SOLIDARITY FOREVER FOR THE UNION MAKES US STRONG! ✊✊✊
not my personal quit, but one I saw. Busy restaurant, downtown Seattle, I am the morning grill/fry, Lance is the evening grill/fry. I get absolutely railed my whole shift, as is tradition, not just because of how popular the restaurant is, but because it's Friday; payday. Lunch ends, family meal made, the line has been cleaned up for the evening shift, the chef de cuisine comes down, and asks "where is lance? has anyone seen lance?" There was a plate on his station, half done, just sitting there with half the order on it. Apparently he'd gotten his check, went upstairs to grab his bag, and left. Didn't say a word to anyone, didn't even finish a the plate he was working on, just left a chef holding the bag. This place was infamous for being rough on evening grill/fry and this particular incident has stuck with me through all those moments where I really consider just walking away.
Forget the bosses, that sounds fairly dickish to their coworkers. Better to leave in an explosive diatribe to the oppressors than slip out like a self centered coward.
@@kingbugs3558
He can leave however the fuck he wants.
@@kingbugs3558 Umm you do realize both ways end with the same result. Blow up or slip out it is all gonna affect the co workers.
@@AB-ou8ve
Sure kiddo. You've never had a coworker flake out and leave you holding the bag?
@@Masonicbrother
Same result? How do you figure two completely different responses end in the same result? Same result for who?
I’ve quit every shitty, exploitive job I’ve ever had and it never stops feeling good.
You should see me then. I've become quite successful ever since. Meanwhile the a holes I worked with are still boot lickin while I have just about everything I could want in life.
So true. Most office jobs are unskilled labor. I was working with an SAP programmer once and she didn't know a very basic computer thing ( I don't remember what it was, only that it seemed very basic to me-- something on the level of Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V). I was like, "how did you learn SAP if you don't know that?"
Alternatively, I was on a construction site and we needed to trim an inch and a half off a sheet of plywood, and this guy made a mark an inch and a half in with a measuring tape, then took a pencil and --ZIP!-- drew a perfectly straight line down the entire eight feet of plywood that was an inch and a half from the edge. I was STUNNED. I would need ten minutes and some other lumber to do that.
Antiwork is a certified reddit moment
I had a work ethic, then I worked 3 essential jobs during 2020, so I fixed that
As an office worker, the one thing on my contract that makes my life a nightmare is the phrase “ad hoc responsibilities”, because it’s basically cart blanche for the company to assign whatever work they want to you without compensating you accordingly.
There are days when half of my workload is ad hoc, usually delegated from my manager, who then tells me I need to manage my time more effectively if I have to keep working overtime to complete my tasks.
Yes, dont you love it when they give you extra tasks and then wonder why you are behind on your actual job? It's like managers cant do math somehow.
As a Nocturne fan might say _"ONE MORE JOB REJECTED!!"_
So glad you did a video on this!! I've been thinking about this so much lately. I've been lurking in the r/antiwork subreddit for over a year on and off and to see it explode like this is really awesome. The growth of r/antiwork is further highlighting that there's a huge labor movement going on right now, and it gives me hope that people are standing up to their employer and demanding better pay and working conditions! It's so cathartic reading about everyone's experience quitting their shitty job after I myself quit a shitty job last year. Power to the proletariat, baby!
I think even youtubers like yourself saying that you’re “doing what you love now “ or “following your passion” is a product of so much pro-work propaganda. Dont sell yourself short dude, youre still doing work and required to keep up with and follow youtubes ridiculous trends and algorithms to make these videos.
I get why saying that these videos are passion projects helps make it more enjoyable for viewers but its still work that you dont have total control over. You dont need to love it!
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I have been thinking, over the past week or so, about this. About how it's okay to hate working, about how it's possible to live with the knowledge that all the shit we HAVE to do to simply get through to the next day feels like a chore BECAUSE IT IS ONE. I don't know what the way forward after these thoughts are, but I feel more at peace after acknowledging these.
In ameica currently, theres literally only a handful of jobs a normal person can do that is actually stable. The industry im planning on getting into is said to increase by 8 percent in 10 years. It sounds good but its capitalizing on the current housing crisis. Im hoping in future I can write a book exposing the industry because honestly it is so much messed up compared to what MSM tells you
Amazing how so many people in r/prowork demonstrate textbook symptoms of work addiction: Exhaustion followed by hollow satisfaction, used as an excuse to not live your life, often an escape from the wife and kids
I remember my first job, when I was 16, I worked in a cafe on the weekends as a waitress. I was the only waitress in a 60 seater cafe, and my boss completely ignored under 18 labour laws and refused me a break through my whole 8 hour shift. I fainted one day and my manager took me to the back and gave me a drink and food, but my boss (the owner) came in and screamed at me and told me to get back to work. I walked out on the spot lol
There's a special place in hell for bosses like this. I used to work in an office where the boss absolutely refused to acknowledge that we were understaffed and overworked. Daily someone would have a breakdown/panic attack at their desk, but we'd all just leave them to cry it out and get back to work. One time the fire alarm went off and half my office just stayed at their desks because they had too much work to do. My mom also worked in that office and the boss found out she was taking her work home at night to finish and the boss told her it was because she wasn't smart enough to keep up, meanwhile every single person in that office was doing the same thing. When I told my boss I wanted to go back to school to finish my bachelor's and was willing to go back to the part time position I had started at, she said there were no part time positions available even though the one I had been working had never been filled. Not only did I quit, pretty much everyone I worked with eventually followed suit.
I hate interviews so much I stuck in the same shitty job for 13 years watching people I trained get promoted above me while they repeatedly tried to fire me for having a disability. In the end I was like hey y'all wanna get rid of me that badly I'll take redundancy lol...they apparently wanted rid of me that badly and I got a chunk of money to pay off my debts, which was nice.
You can’t convince me that r/prowork isn’t a bunch of bosses posing as happy workers.
Waking up? You make it sound like we didn't already know. Us millennials knew that the basics of a stable income were unattainable for _years._ We just needed the right time and situation to finally do something about it
what's crazy is the current situation is creating growing class warfare among the workers themselves. i was in a walmart a few weeks ago waiting in a customer service like, after about 20 minutes of the line barely moving some guy a few heads behind me started yelling at some passerby worker that she should help out behind the customer service desk because "this is ridiculous" and she just snapped back "don't blame me blame all the leeches who don't want to work". once i heard that i was just like damn girl you see how bad this shit is at your current job why would you wish it on anyone else? madness
I've seen that, kinda. Had that conversation. It feels weird, but I usually tell them they should be getting paid more... and by implication, so should anyone they hire?
Oh fuck yes. I have this all the time from workers and customers. I started pulling out my rant saying how no, it's not that people dont want to work. They just dont want to be treated like dirt and I dont blame them. So, they went and found better jobs or decided to alter their arrangements. I find my job so soul crushing I have to limit my hours per week for my sanity, so why would I expect anyone else to do it when they have other options? I certainly won't be as soon as I have a better offer.
Sometimes I'm so grateful to live in Germany, hearing all this stories really shows how good we have it here
Don't you have especially young people working those zero contracts where it's hardly possible to live on your wage? It was used as an example to strive for here in Finland maybe already 10 years ago. Of course we have more and more of that here all the time.
Never forget that if it seems good for you under capitalism, someone's being more downtrodden than you, whether that's in the global south or around the corner.
@@paavohirn3728 what do you mean with Zeri contracts ? Never heard that before
@@derpinguin5390 basically work contracts where the employer can give the employees any amount of work per week 0-40 hours. So the employee never knows if they make a meager living or not really make it at all. Maybe my recollection is faulty and it was another of many modes of holding power over the lives of workers.
Exported the misery elsewhere....
How is it in Germany
RIP Anti-Work. Moderator killed millions of people work, views, and thoughts within 3 mins. Didn't even question himself at all and made everyone look like a fool. *Swivels in chair furiously*
*herself
My best quitting moment came when a restaurant that I had been working full time at for years was sold to new owners. The old owner was a great boss and is still a friend, but the new owners had no idea what they were doing, left the restaurant INSANELY short-staffed, weren't following proper food safety procedures, and were extremely harsh and rude on top of it.
The new owners were a couple, and two of my coworkers were relatives-in-law (my female coworker was married to the brother of my male coworker). The female worker told the owners that she wanted to quit, and the woman who had just bought the place started having a go at her brother-in-law, presumably because she knew he actually needed the job and thus couldn't say anything. She punctuated her rant by screaming "fuck you" at him and walking away, and I remember we made eye contact and had a "what the actual fuck just happened" moment, and I was already pissed off but I assumed that would be it.
I assumed wrong, and she came back into the kitchen and started having ANOTHER go at him, and what really infuriated me was that once again, she was only doing this to him because she knew he didn't want to quit despite the fact that she was running him ragged and had him doing the job of three people. Thankfully she didn't realize I already had a part-time job writing online, so I sat there listening to her pop off while taking a few moments to consider whether or not I just wanted to confront her and take my chances on my other job.
It probably took me less than a minute to decide, and I just walked up to her and said "uh excuse me, you just yelled fuck you in his face and that is outrageously inappropriate". She turned to me and said "no, I said fuck IT". I responded "no, I was standing right there, and you said fuck YOU". And at this point I can't remember exactly what happened, but she started yelling at me, I quite forcefully explained that it was wildly inappropriate for her to be speaking to my coworker like that, both in terms of her tone of voice and the fact that she was essentially shit talking one of his own family members to him, and she told me to leave in not very nice terms. I went out to the front of the restaurant to get my stuff and my coworker followed, gave me a hug, asked me if I was alright, and then turned to the dude who I had completely forgotten was there to interview for a job and who had just heard this entire screaming match that we had about what a shitty asshole this woman was and said "this is just a very stressful time for us, I'm sorry about that".
I left, texted my old boss who still lived five minutes away, she said OMG come to my house and tell me everything right now, I went there and one of my other coworkers happened to be there hanging out, I regaled them with the story and we all had a laugh. I started writing a lot more to make up for the lost income, thank god it's a work-from-home job so I remained employed throughout the pandemic when I 100% would have lost any restaurant job I had, and I got promoted a few times to the point where now I was offered a senior editing position literally two weeks ago. It's an extremely flexible job that I really like, where I hardly have to deal with anyone, and that I can do in my apartment in my pajamas. It was absolutely the best career decision I made and it was all ultimately driven by the fact that I just could not deal with the possibility of not telling a shitty asshole boss what a shitty asshole they truly were. It's great that the pandemic has made so many workers realize their individual worth and that life is too short to waste on some shitdicks on a power trip who almost certainly couldn't even do the job that they're mistreating you for anyway.
r/antiwork is dead now, the mod killed it following a fox news interview for those that are wondering
At my last job I worked harder than most, came in whenever I was called in and was still paid less than my white coworkers and dealt with racism. I remember being told I'm "one of the good ones" because I'm half white. That was when I decided to leave with no job lined up
Nothing feels as good as quitting a toxic work environment midway through a busy shift, then going to the pub over the road for a couple of beers...
...or so I’ve heard...I wouldn’t know cos I’m a good little worker... **cough** ...
the "I'm not asking, I'm telling" line is my favorite to see from a manager. They act as if there isn't a major labor shortage already. I could just go down the street and get another job from somebody else that also just lost 5 employees because they don't understand that there is a major labor shortage.
The fact that “furries and bronies” ended up being your salvation is hilarious.
I used to get severe anxiety at work, i wouldn't sleep the night before because i djdnt want to go and watch my life pass me by. I now work a job i want to do and my anxiety has improved a lot and i dont spend everday feeling worthless.
It's not perfect and i dont agree with the people who think you have to sacrafice your life for theatre, but it has improved my mental health so much
I have to work a job in order to fund my passion of creating art and video work. I do enjoy my job, this is my 8th job in life. It's necessary cause I would not be able to survive trying to claw my way to relevance let alone being funded by fans, but if I could do my work and make a living entertaining others with stories and art I'd do it. Who wouldn't. Just gotta find that break out project I guess.
I feel ya fam. Capitalism won't allow us to chase our passions
@@kenshix7902 capitalism won’t support you pursuing your passions. Not unless that dovetails with some rich guy making money off it without having to break a sweat.
Im in the same position. Hang in there, things aren’t easy at the moment
Your videos are cringe.
@@XXXXX8 just wait until tomorrow
I worked at a family owned pizza place in Florida and the boss I had was not only horrible, but dangerous as well. In the span of a month of me working there, I'd already seen him berate me and my coworkers for not doing things correctly even though he'd never shown us prior and all the while trying to act like best friends outside the workplace. I realized he was a hothead that wanted everyone to be friendly to him but wanted to give none of it back.
I put up with it, but once you see the signs of a toxic workplace...listen just run. Because it went from him being an asshole, to him being a creep around his own daughter, to him literally pulling an unloaded firearm on one of my coworkers as a "joke". All of that leading up to him sitting me down and fake firing me; trying to tell me I "yelled" at some of the managers in a noisy setting, saying I was going too slow even if orders always were coming out and flat out lying about things I would never do. Then he says I can "come back" in a couple days if I wanted to keep the job.
I never went back. Of course, I was friends with some of my coworkers who had stayed and worked there longer than I. They told me that how I got "fired" was how the boss avoids paying for unemployment. I guess if you don't come in for the "second chance" you technically didn't get fired, just didn't show back up to the job. Fucking scum in this country.
I used to work in a pub and my friend died very suddenly and i was scheduled to work the next day and when i told my boss i wasnt coming in becuase my friend died (they had actually contacted me to ask if i was in a good enough state to come in) and they responded "next time can you give us more warning" id literally been in bed crying all day and was going to miss the wake for work. I ended up going to the wake and felt a lot better as i hadnt seen anyone who knew him after i heard the news
As a unionized worker, I am so so happy to see these types of posts and acts against their employers.
My employer would never in a million years think of coming down on me or any one of my coworkers like this because we will straight up make their job a nightmare. We trained our boss, not the other way around, and we get paid a lot of money doing it.
I made minimum wage at a "local"(funny because half their board are also owners of whole foods) bookstore fresh out of highschool. I had to work overtime to make my bills and the whole thing was physically and mentally draining. I didnt get to quit in some outrageous way because it ended in a stay at the local mental health facility. Fuck toxic work enviroments
The only job I ever QUIT, I typed up my resignation and my two weeks notice, and put it on my boss's desk (he usually comes in several hours after I do.) When he came in and read it, he stuck his head out of the office and shouted "NO TWO WEEKS! IF YOU DON'T WANNA BE HERE THEN FUCK OFF!" and sent me home.
My co-workers begged me to come back the next day, because I was literally the only person in the office who knew how to program the CNC machine. My resignation included ways I could help teach my replacement, but my boss decided that wasn't necessary. Good times.
I always thought that two weeks resignation was odd since the boss can fire you the same day.
@@leehalloway8787 But if he fires me without cause, I get two weeks pay anyways and I can take him to arbitration for firing me without just cause.
@@toppersundquist Oh, what state or country do you live in?
@@leehalloway8787 Canada. Maybe different labor laws here than you. I hear a lot of rough things about what constitutes "just cause" if you're in the states.
The best part of these exchanges where the workers quit is that the bosses are so confidently asserting they have full control and the worker deserves no autonomy. They're bluffing because they know they need the worker, and the worker calls their bluff. Beautiful
Employers have been spoiled by years of employees who pushed and sacrificed their own health for the company and now they wonder why we are finally saying no.
It has never made a lick of sense to me working yourself to the bone during your healthiest, best years to save money for when you're old and feeble and can't do half the stuff younger you could do.
Given the current state of things I don't expect the country to make it until I'm 50, let alone 65, and we could all get hit by a car tomorrow so I would much rather be able to live a fulfilling life now and foster enough good relationships to have somewhere to go and people I know to help me later in life
Pretty much all of my jobs have sucked. My first job, i was given a paycard instead of a check and was laid off without being notified.
My second job i was continually sabotaged and gaslit by the more senior employees. eventually, they decided to fire me within earshot of everybody (including the customers), which triggered a severe panic attack.
My third (and most recent) job was going fairly well until the owner decided to take over. He shunted me to dishes & slashed my hours, fired our best cook over a relatively minor infraction, & bragged about how he was refusing to sign off on paperwork for some of our ex-employees (INCLUDING A MAN WITH CHILDREN) to get food stamps. Eventually, i was fired after asking for better hours so i could afford to pay my college tuition
In the UK we believe we live in a democracy, but we spend 80% of our lives at work, where we have no say, aren't truly ourselves and our bosses dictate how much we get paid and what we do.
I don't think people would care as much about billionaires if they were paid a liveable wage and given better working conditions.
No one cared 1945-1980.
That the problem with american liberals there little have to be a fascist take over imminent to get them to do anything other then vote.
capitalism is when things cost too much
I want a basic income with rent caps because employers aren't entitled to employees, period.
I have a story. Back in 99 my severely disabled brother passed away. The day before his funeral, my boss at the time asked me to drive to Wiltshire to work on site at a client for the day. This typically meant a long drive, long day, and a late finish that would usually mean me staying in a hotel due to the distance from my house. My boss knew my brother had died and that it was his funeral the following day, but was trying to force me because they were short of people who were able to do my job. My boss became really nasty with me when I told her that it's not something I wanted to do, considering what was going on at the time. In the end I went to the client but warned her that this wasn't the end of it. When I arrived I told the client what they were making me do (they were pretty shocked and released me early). The following day I slapped a fuck you resignation letter on her desk and within two weeks had a new, better job. I sent HR a damning letter and made her short staffing problems worse. Felt fucking awesome to walk out on my last day, saying goodbye to everyone on my team apart from my boss.
Good for you. I quit Amazon during the pandemic after years of it's oppressive atmosphere and while I can't say things have been easy, I can without a doubt say that I'm mentally doing like 200% better. Still, none of us get paid nearly enough what we should so let's unionize 🤝
i quit my last job literally the day after christmas just before the pandemic. thanks to the payments, my savings, and not living alone i have been free for 2 years. going back soon, though, its a downer but hey it looks like its gonna be better than when i left.
@@comyuse9103 right? I had some time between job--like almost a year, and it really opened my eyes to the fact that there is so much more I want to do that's not just underpaid labor and that outside the warehouse walls there's a whole world out there that I'm being kept from
@@UmbraSomnium1 every single day i wake up, even recently where i gotta be more careful with my money, has just been so much better than any day i have had since high school. even if i am feeling like absolute shit it is still better than any day i have to worry about work.
Used to work as a line cook at one of the biggest fast food chains, open 24/7. I worked night shift on fri/sat and a few more days day time, the night shift was expected to sell food, clean litteraly every machine, dishes, take out garbage, scrub the floors and get breakfast ready guess how much staff we had.... 2 people. Now i complained for months and months that we are understafed and i had to come in 1 hour early unpaid to manage to get all this done. Keep in mind fri/sat were some of our best days sales wise especially night because drunks and teens would come in and order huge amounts like 20 burgers ish per order. Earlier this year i was on vacation and came back nothing had changed no more staff or help as usuall and i just felt burnt out isntantly with all the responisbility and stress that came with the job so i quit on my first shift back after my vacation. Best decision ive made ever.
I don't know if this counts, but I worked at Panera Bread when I was 15. The GM was super passive aggressive, and being an angsty 16 year old I matched his energy directly. One of the managers (who had always been nice to me up until this night, she was older too for the average age of employee at this particular panera) was frustrated with the pace by which my coworkers and I were closing (we were closing at the same pace as always..). I think she was going on a date after clocking out and was stressed about making it there in time. I didn't feel any sympathy because she was yelling at my coworkers! She eventually started yelling at me for listening to music while cleaning up the line. I was literally on the final steps of cleaning, and here comes Jen angry as shit yelling about how I'm cleaning, even though I had been it the same way for my entire time working there. I let her yell at me, I stood there and stared at her like she was stupid, then after giving her a couple seconds of stank eye simply replied by saying, "OK". This made her so angry, she went to the other side of the counter and threatened to fire me over my "attitude" and began throwing an absolute TANTRUM. She grabbed a breadbowl and THREW IT AT ME! It was only sitting there because at the end of the nights we bag all the bread and it gets picked up and donated somewhere, so employees get first dibs on all the extras-- one of us had planned on taking a breadbowl home, apparently. They were shit out of luck because the breadbowl was now on a freshly mopped wet floor. I was in shock, here is a mid 40s year old woman throwing shit around and yelling like a baby. I helped my coworkers close and finished my shift. I wrote on a piece of receipt paper "I QUIT!" and put it on the soft drink machine with a sticker. Fuck panera, and fuck Jen.
I genuinely didn't mind the backbreaking work when I was paid well, but when the business was bought out because the owner got leukemia everyone near the bottom was fired. I never had the opportunity to make the money I did again even 10 years later. Worse than that, I then was paid less for harder work and it never seemed worth it again.
I quit my last job in 2020 when covid was ramping up and I'm not re-entering the market until wages are nearly doubled.
I quit pretty much at the start of the pandemic, I quit before we had any restrictions here in Germany. It was just a part time job at a bakery, two days a week but it basically became a full time job as I was called in every single day. Even on days I said beforehand I didn't have time. I complained once, after that the calls stopped for about a week but soon started up again. I pretty much had enough when I complained the second time and got a really pissed off response in return. The manager even wanted to explain to me, how among 14 part time workers, I was the only one who always was free. On my very last day I complained to the manager directly about how shitty I was treated and you can imagine she was pissed of for the rest of the day.
Probably not as bad as some other stories but still it was my worst story so far. From what I found out by talking with my co-workers it wasn't much better for most of them. It was mostly the part-time and younger workers which were exploited this way.
I quit my job at Amazon 2 days before my actual resignation date. I had 2 days of paid time off save up and i decided to use it. So basically on my last day i didn't do anything at all and i was just the break room watching RUclips and movies. Well, they didnt like that and they called in the SWAT team to get me and i was sent to the District Managers office. They interrogated me and asking me why i wasn't working. I told them the truth because at that time i was going to college and my parents where divorcing. The District Manager was understanding but my Manager was a complete Narc and told me i needed to work an extra day to make up for that time. I left the warehouse right then and there, went on a date with my Girlfriend, ate IHOP, and got laid. I used my 2 days and got paid also i got the rest of my sign on bonus which was $500.
Moral of the story dont work at Amazon and always leave on a high note.
I think this is great. I think one flaw with the direction the left took within the last decades was a stupid switch towards a generalized "pro work" attitude (often inspired by a certain few strains of feminism), where work is seen as bringing inclusivity, self fulfillment and independence. Even if its the absolutely shittiest job imagineable.
The homo oeconomicus model pushed by (classical and modern) liberals is stupid and its not better to be dependand on a shitty boss than to be dependant on a shitty husband. Both is awful.
And many pro wage labor liberals I met almost sounded like PragerU idiocy.
Its great that many people of the left again realize that wage labor is exploitation. 👍 And that being exploited does not make people free.
No one wants to work themselves to the bone anymore to make a select few assholes unfathomably rich anymore.
This movement is good. We all deserve bigger pieces of the pie, not crumbs.
Best video you've done yet. I would write my crappy work experience, but I actually have to go to bed so I can go back work in the morning. Lol. 🙃😓
I wish you all the best, man.
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going off somewhere to learn how to live selflessly
while learning how to die in peace & happiness?
I use to feel so alone in wanting change for work. I use to have a job where they work you 10-12 hours a day 6 days a week. I just want a four day week that’s all. I really hope things change. I’m so thankful for this pandemic in the way I feel it opened up a lot of eyes. The thought of working for ever makes me hate life.
I worked for a major, now defunct electronics company here in the states. The GM hired me and proceeded to go on PTO the following week. Now I had accepted the job on the condition I did not have to cut my hair, and the GM said that this was fine. Assistant GM day after GM went on PTO tells me I have to cut my hair, I reply with the GM said it was fine. Assistant GM says he does not care, I need to cut my hair. At this point I think it had been three years since I had cut it? So obviously I wasn’t going to. So I quit the next morning. Not exceptionally bad, but honestly not going to cut my hair for a shitty computer sales job. Also, here I am, some 11 years later? Still haven’t cut my hair.
Ah, the age-old question: Do you listen to what your boss says or to what you're boss who's also your bosses boss says? And before you answer: The one lower in the hierarchy, the one you could more easily tell that it was their boss who said the opposite to what they just told you to do, is the one you see 95% of the time, while you see the boss who's higher up the ranks only 5% of the time.
My previous job I was oncall managing a pretty unstable system. There were only three people in the on call rotation by the time I left. My direct boss was the oncall I was secondary to, he never responded to any oncall events so I was for practical purposes oncall 2/3rds of the time. It was horrible for my sleep and my mental health, I got to the point that I had started crying when my phone went off.
When I left, my bosses boss gave me an exit interview and they fired my boss the same day. My bosses boss tried to tell me that I wasn't really on call two out of three weeks because sometimes I am in the office working and that's not being on call. And then he got mad when there wasn't a way he could convince me to stay asking why I even let him do an exit interview. This was my first 'career industry job' during and after university, I tried to be my most professional but that job was legit killing me.
Great subreddit. Hope this sentiment spreads. Class consciousness for all
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I have a medical condition which can sometimes cause me to lose consciousness, under particular stress. On this day I had already had an episode and knew that driving to my graveyard shift to run a shift was going to be pretty dangerous. When I texted my boss, I asked "would it be alright if I took the night off?" (I was 18 and scared of getting fired). He replied, "You can either come in or you can quit."
To which I said "Sweet thanks, have a great night."
He called me about an hour later losing his mind bc nobody showed up for the grave shift and they had to shut down.
#2
Working in a shitty fast food kitchen, the owner called the store at 6:30pm, absolutely smashed, to scream at one of the employees for over an hour. The poor girl came back to the kitchen sobbing, saying she wanted to leave, but didn't want to finish out 2 weeks.
I said "dude, just leave. I mean if you care to, you can ask if someone wants your shifts, but fuck this place, you don't owe her anything. Just go home, dude. Enjoy the freedom."
Never saw her again, but I hope she's living her best life.
I quit my warehouse production job to work at the local record store chain. I was thrilled, I had wanted to work at this place for at least 5 years, and loved working with people and their interests. When I started I took a pay decrease and now had a half hour commute. Naturally working retail I was not allowed to sit or lean on the counters, and I was responsible for organising the book section of the store. While doing my task, the store got a call and I picked up, the customer’s record was warped, and the store generally doesn’t cover warping due to the desert climate. I asked the customer if they had gone straight home or had left the record in the car. She explained that she had left it in the car while she went shopping. I told her that the store wouldn’t cover it as it was her fault it warped. She then proceeded to scream thru the phone expletives and demand I replace her record. I told her to come in and the manager would take care of it. The manager later told me about that lady and she made a complaint against me, that I yelled at her, and the store replaced her record. Then we got the schedule for the next week, where I was scheduled for the days I had explained I couldn’t work. And my manager said “well we can’t really workout a consistent schedule ya know?” and I responded with “no I don’t, I can’t work these days”
Monday morning came, I was working at the warehouse again, and got a call, my manager from the record store.
“Hey Danny, you still comin in today?”
“Uh nah.”
then hung up
I don’t harbour any anger toward that manager or the rest of the store, it just really opened my eyes to the flaws of the system and how ridiculous it could be, and led me to my anticapitalist beliefs now
edit: I only lasted an entire week at this place and this is only one of several different things that pushed me back, retail workers are saints and I love y’all
what kinda fuckwit manager listens to customers? even my most soulless reptile of a boss would always come to me about complaints only to laugh at them, and that guy murdered prostitutes (probably. no proof. yet.)
I've always wanted to just do volunteer work for a living instead of "actual work" because it's far more fulfilling to make a difference instead of getting yelled at for not putting in enough effort into my job. But it's hard to donate my time when I barely have enough for mental health days because I have to work to live :,)