@GregoryBSadler May 1st 2034. All set. It's interesting how our philisophical interests change over time. I think another interesting video would be those works we don't need in that situation because the concept is straightforward.
That's something entirely relative to the reader, as well as something many readers are likely mistaken about, thinking concepts are more straightforward than they really are
Hi there, Dr S. Interesting to see you have picked Montaigne. The complete essays, translated by Screech, was probably the first philosophy book I ever read. I was in my late teens, with no classical background, and it's fair to say that most of it went over my head. That volume has been travelling around with me for 30 years, often stored in less than ideal conditions, and is now in danger of falling to bits, so I recently picked up the penguin edition of selected essays with the intention of revisiting them. I wonder, can you highlight any essays that you particularly enjoy? Thanks for all the content!
Pleasantly surprise Montaigne is here! Just a question: what do you think about the whole "French Moralist" tradition following him? La Rochefoucauld, Chamfort, etc. Do you find them interesting? Do u personally consider them philosophers? In my own view, for someone thats a fan of Ancient and Hellenistic Philosophy Tradition (seeing philosophy more of a reflective, spiritual practice, way of life rather than academic search for knowledge) they supplements my understanding of how to brought these wisdom to the modern age. Sometimes I feel like La Rochefoucauld presents "an update" of Epicurean understanding to his time, for instance.
I do think that change is important in ones life. I'm similar to who I was in some aspects and quite different in others, I would probably find myself detestable in some ways heh... Ten years ago, I was only vaguely familiar with philosophy having only read a little Plato as a teenager (roughly ten years before that point as well) and even then quickly realized I was just reading words and getting nothing out of it. I don't think I have fully read ten philosophy books as of right now too, having finished Nietzsche's works a few times but mostly read about a quarter to half a book before dropping and moving to something else (its a terrible affliction and I intend on changing that). Cheers for the list, its nice to see what someone who really studies and applies philosophy to their life would choose if they only had a small number of books to read.
That's a great list you made! It's interesting that you put Kant's 3rd Critique as, coincidentally, that's the next book that I will be digging into very soon (which also happens to be same translation as yours). I'm looking forward to working through the book.
Have you read the Cloud of Unknowing? I wouldn't say it's a contender for the desert island ten but it's an interesting one. Wonder what you'd make of it
I've read all the books in the last ten years, obviously! Otherwise, it would be really weird for me to be saying I'd want to bring them along based on memories of having read them more than ten years ago. Perhaps you mean read for the first time in the last ten years?
Thank you for the video update! And thank you for more interesting leads. I agree, if you're list ain't changing every so often, it's time to change your life. Below are my ten. I assume blank notebooks don't count. If they did, then nine blank notebooks and Hericlitus' fragments. The Waste Books by Lichtenberg (auf Deutsch) Pensees by Pascal The Meditations by Descartes (same edition as yours) An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding by Hume A Treatise Concerning the Principles of Human Knowledge by Berkeley Philosophical Investigations by Wittgenstein (4th ed.) A Presocratics Reader (cheating, but at least it's short) A robust German dictionary/usage book A robust French dictionary/usage book A robust Latin dictionary/usage book
Dr. Sadler, I have a rather ambiguous question but I hope you can answer it if you can. I have yet to explore Anselm, and do you consider Anselm a mystic? Here his book about prayer sounds interesring. I am always drawn to the (what people call) "mystical side" of the Christian Religion: Ive read St John of the Cross, St Teresa of Avilla, Meister Eckhart, Simone Weil. Would you think he was in the same vein with them? Someone that believe he has a personal contact with God?
Having a personal contact with God doesn't make one a mystic. I'm myself uninterested in mysticism. Why don't you actually read Anselm, since he's a great writer, and find out for yourself.
I can tell you as someone who had worked in the field of philosophy of religion for decades, there is no “how people usually use the term” for mysticism. Good luck with your studies
Nice job Greg on this list! I agree with you on Seneca's Letters. That's certainly one of the books I would bring to a desert island. Reading Seneca has helped me live a more vibrant life, specifically in handling life's challenges.
I've just been reading The Fall by Camus so looking forward to Augustine now. Would love to see what if any phil-fiction would make it onto the island! (or what more non-fiction, in time 😀 but this is a great list 👍)
Montaigne’s Essays seems like kind of collected works! (😈) Also I’m quite glad to hear someone who’s read as much as you gets so much out of Pascal, I’ve always found him underrated
Passions of The Soul by Rene Descartes also looks really interesting. Right now I'm specifically self studying Stoic Philosophy but perhaps when I get more into Western I'll look into some of Descartes main works along with someone with a differing view just to contrast between them. Your videos are really helpful so thanks for the hard work kind sir.
@@GregoryBSadler I completely respect that. I was actually speaking for myself personally but it's fine:) I'm new to Descartes so I've been doing a lot of researching and your channel comes across as extremely helpful so again I appreciate the insight. I hope you can confirm for me but would owning Meditations, Discourse, and Passions of The Soul give you a deeper overview of his philosophy as a beginner? I don't have much shelf space so I have to keep it somewhat limited with the amount of books I get.
1. Science of Logic - Hegel 2. Das Capital - Marx 3. Ethics - Spinoza 4. Beyond Good & Evil - Nietzsche 5. Difference and Repetition - Deleuze & Guattari 6. Less then Nothing - Zizek 7. Ecrits - Lacan 8. Being and Event - Badiou 9. Discipline and Punishment - Foucault 10. What is Sex - Zupancic Have you studied any Eastern Philosophy?! Is so who, and what did you think?!
Decent list. Questions are irrelevant to the video and discussed many times in AMAs (including why I don't use the term "eastern", and don't take seriously people who still do)
In no particular order -Song of Song: womanist wisdom by Abi Doukhan -Sharing the world by Irigaray -Athens and Jerusalem By Lev Shestov -Capital volume 1 by Karl Marx -Works of Love by Kierkegaard -An aesthetic education in the age of globalization by Spivak -The Cultural Politics of Emotion by Sarah Ahmed - Introduction to Classical Chinese Philosophy Book by Bryan W. Van Norden - Gay science by Nietzsche - Totality and Infinity Book by Emmanuel Levinas -Consolation of Philosophy by Boethius -Black Skin White Mask by Fanon. Thank you for the video prof. Sadler.
Isn’t changing your desert island list the opposite of what you should do. You say one should change and not stagnate, but if you were on a desert island you want books that are foundational throughout your change. Hence the 10 for the rest of your life, not the 10 you currently connect with.
I've already set a reminder for June 14th 2034.
You'd need to set a reminder for you to remind me
@GregoryBSadler May 1st 2034. All set.
It's interesting how our philisophical interests change over time. I think another interesting video would be those works we don't need in that situation because the concept is straightforward.
That's something entirely relative to the reader, as well as something many readers are likely mistaken about, thinking concepts are more straightforward than they really are
One of my favorite videos of yours! Great to revisit it
Glad to read it
This is great timing. Just watched the original video. Thanks Dr. Sadler!
You’re welcome!
Hi there, Dr S.
Interesting to see you have picked Montaigne. The complete essays, translated by Screech, was probably the first philosophy book I ever read. I was in my late teens, with no classical background, and it's fair to say that most of it went over my head. That volume has been travelling around with me for 30 years, often stored in less than ideal conditions, and is now in danger of falling to bits, so I recently picked up the penguin edition of selected essays with the intention of revisiting them. I wonder, can you highlight any essays that you particularly enjoy?
Thanks for all the content!
Pleasantly surprise Montaigne is here! Just a question: what do you think about the whole "French Moralist" tradition following him? La Rochefoucauld, Chamfort, etc.
Do you find them interesting? Do u personally consider them philosophers?
In my own view, for someone thats a fan of Ancient and Hellenistic Philosophy Tradition (seeing philosophy more of a reflective, spiritual practice, way of life rather than academic search for knowledge) they supplements my understanding of how to brought these wisdom to the modern age. Sometimes I feel like La Rochefoucauld presents "an update" of Epicurean understanding to his time, for instance.
I don't think about them
🥲
I do think that change is important in ones life. I'm similar to who I was in some aspects and quite different in others, I would probably find myself detestable in some ways heh... Ten years ago, I was only vaguely familiar with philosophy having only read a little Plato as a teenager (roughly ten years before that point as well) and even then quickly realized I was just reading words and getting nothing out of it. I don't think I have fully read ten philosophy books as of right now too, having finished Nietzsche's works a few times but mostly read about a quarter to half a book before dropping and moving to something else (its a terrible affliction and I intend on changing that). Cheers for the list, its nice to see what someone who really studies and applies philosophy to their life would choose if they only had a small number of books to read.
Glad you enjoyed the list video
That's a great list you made! It's interesting that you put Kant's 3rd Critique as, coincidentally, that's the next book that I will be digging into very soon (which also happens to be same translation as yours). I'm looking forward to working through the book.
It is perhaps his most interesting work
Have you read the Cloud of Unknowing? I wouldn't say it's a contender for the desert island ten but it's an interesting one. Wonder what you'd make of it
Yep. Not into mysticism. Wouldn’t bring it
Were any of the newly included titles ones that you read in the last ten years?
I've read all the books in the last ten years, obviously! Otherwise, it would be really weird for me to be saying I'd want to bring them along based on memories of having read them more than ten years ago.
Perhaps you mean read for the first time in the last ten years?
Thank you for the video update! And thank you for more interesting leads.
I agree, if you're list ain't changing every so often, it's time to change your life.
Below are my ten. I assume blank notebooks don't count. If they did, then nine blank notebooks and Hericlitus' fragments.
The Waste Books by Lichtenberg (auf Deutsch)
Pensees by Pascal
The Meditations by Descartes (same edition as yours)
An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding by Hume
A Treatise Concerning the Principles of Human Knowledge by Berkeley
Philosophical Investigations by Wittgenstein (4th ed.)
A Presocratics Reader (cheating, but at least it's short)
A robust German dictionary/usage book
A robust French dictionary/usage book
A robust Latin dictionary/usage book
You're welcome!
I really enjoyed this video. I like ones like this. I’ll have to purchase some of the books that you have mentioned. 📚
Glad you enjoyed it
I don't even know where I would start when making a list like this, and I'm no where near as well-read as you are
You can always make a list and change it when you know more
Great list!
Thanks!
Dr. Sadler, I have a rather ambiguous question but I hope you can answer it if you can.
I have yet to explore Anselm, and do you consider Anselm a mystic? Here his book about prayer sounds interesring.
I am always drawn to the (what people call) "mystical side" of the Christian Religion: Ive read St John of the Cross, St Teresa of Avilla, Meister Eckhart, Simone Weil. Would you think he was in the same vein with them? Someone that believe he has a personal contact with God?
Having a personal contact with God doesn't make one a mystic. I'm myself uninterested in mysticism.
Why don't you actually read Anselm, since he's a great writer, and find out for yourself.
well, I don't care about the terminology but that's usually how people use the term.
Will do! Anselm have been on my tbr for a while
I can tell you as someone who had worked in the field of philosophy of religion for decades, there is no “how people usually use the term” for mysticism. Good luck with your studies
Thanks for the positivity!
you're welcome!
Nice job Greg on this list! I agree with you on Seneca's Letters. That's certainly one of the books I would bring to a desert island. Reading Seneca has helped me live a more vibrant life, specifically in handling life's challenges.
Glad to read it
I've just been reading The Fall by Camus so looking forward to Augustine now. Would love to see what if any phil-fiction would make it onto the island! (or what more non-fiction, in time 😀 but this is a great list 👍)
Fiction would be a different list
The rhetoric book sounds interesting, but on a desert island? You'd have nobody to argue with but Wilson.
If you think rhetoric is only about arguing with a person present, you probably should read the book
Montaigne’s Essays seems like kind of collected works! (😈)
Also I’m quite glad to hear someone who’s read as much as you gets so much out of Pascal, I’ve always found him underrated
Not really. They've traditionally been assembled together into one work.
Funny, Dr. Sadler, that it was only yesterday I watched the previous video. Thanks as always for the videos.
That is fortuitous!
Passions of The Soul by Rene Descartes also looks really interesting. Right now I'm specifically self studying Stoic Philosophy but perhaps when I get more into Western I'll look into some of Descartes main works along with someone with a differing view just to contrast between them. Your videos are really helpful so thanks for the hard work kind sir.
It's interesting to be sure. For the desert island, it's still going to be Meditations
@@GregoryBSadler I completely respect that. I was actually speaking for myself personally but it's fine:) I'm new to Descartes so I've been doing a lot of researching and your channel comes across as extremely helpful so again I appreciate the insight. I hope you can confirm for me but would owning Meditations, Discourse, and Passions of The Soul give you a deeper overview of his philosophy as a beginner? I don't have much shelf space so I have to keep it somewhat limited with the amount of books I get.
If you study Meditations, Discourse, and Passions of The Soul you'll get a good sense of what Descartes is up to
@@GregoryBSadler I appreciate it Prof. After those what would you suggest? I'd imagine Principles would be a little more advanced.
@@Manuel421 I'd suggest work through those first before worrying about what comes next
Can’t say I’m surprised Hegel didn’t make the list this time, but it still feels like something critical is missing 😂
It's a list of ten, so there's always going to be some things missing from it
1. Science of Logic - Hegel
2. Das Capital - Marx
3. Ethics - Spinoza
4. Beyond Good & Evil - Nietzsche
5. Difference and Repetition - Deleuze & Guattari
6. Less then Nothing - Zizek
7. Ecrits - Lacan
8. Being and Event - Badiou
9. Discipline and Punishment - Foucault
10. What is Sex - Zupancic
Have you studied any Eastern Philosophy?!
Is so who, and what did you think?!
Decent list. Questions are irrelevant to the video and discussed many times in AMAs (including why I don't use the term "eastern", and don't take seriously people who still do)
Tyteca's The New Rhetoric is something I need to read, thanks.
Typically, it gets more associated with Perelman, but yes, it's well worth reading and rereading
No Hegel? :(
Yep.
By posting this video you just answered the question I wanted to ask in July Q&A 😅 thanks!
Hahahah! Someone beat you to it in a previous AMA!
Isn't the Montaigne cheating because it's not a single work, but rather a collection of works? lol (same with the Seneca)
It’s not
Surprised you dropped Plato!
I’m not
Has he just been displaced by a rising interest in other authors? Or has Plato simply been demoted in your interest?
I’d avoid asking questions already answered in the video.
In no particular order
-Song of Song: womanist wisdom by Abi Doukhan
-Sharing the world by Irigaray
-Athens and Jerusalem By Lev Shestov
-Capital volume 1 by Karl Marx
-Works of Love by Kierkegaard
-An aesthetic education in the age of globalization by Spivak
-The Cultural Politics of Emotion by Sarah Ahmed
- Introduction to Classical Chinese Philosophy
Book by Bryan W. Van Norden
- Gay science by Nietzsche
- Totality and Infinity
Book by Emmanuel Levinas
-Consolation of Philosophy by Boethius
-Black Skin White Mask by Fanon.
Thank you for the video prof. Sadler.
Isn’t changing your desert island list the opposite of what you should do. You say one should change and not stagnate, but if you were on a desert island you want books that are foundational throughout your change. Hence the 10 for the rest of your life, not the 10 you currently connect with.
No
@ you want something to spend the rest of your life with, not the next ten years??
@@Aypher I said what I said