@@Ingwar1993 Very true, counterpoint, every other game's fuckin mtx even in the modern gaming landscape isn't this garbage (besides, of course, Acti-Blizz games).
From someone who has never played a Diablo game ever. My first experience in closed beta, open beta, and server slam I have to say I had a lot of fun and enjoyment out of it. A lot of exploration, story, and side quests/stories. I am excited for it! I think it will be a lot of fun and a good experience over all.
diablo 4 will be good Don't just play through the story do seasons too every few months like in Path of exile then it's worth it,games like these you play for years.
Asmons logic toward the end gets a little flawed, or maybe hypocritical... deciding not to play D4 because of what has happened with OW2 is perfectly logical in the sense that as he always preaches, speak with your wallet. Why hand a company more money, in any franchise when you have lost faith in their ability to deliver overall.
@@asddasdasdasdadsa you kind of proved my point. On one hand he’s preached about how things won’t change unless people do these types of things. And then he will turn around and also say what you’ve said. On this subject at least, he flip flops repeatedly depending on whatever side he wants to argue that day seemingly.
@@asddasdasdasdadsa it only works when people dont buy it look at battlefield and halo they bought the new ones play them went back to what they were playing previously had they stayed updated would still be playing them
They put the cosmetics at 2800, just to add that 300 bonus to the 25$ bundle, so, later in the game lifespan, they will either lower that bonus or get rid of it, and people will have to buy either the next bundle, or the 25$ and a smaller one
@@shinski8114 necro set is the only thing mabey worth it.But that being said still the class has better looking gear.The necro horse armor is pretty sick though.
@@fatbroccoli8 Yup and if people throw money at it they will.I dont give a fck and I dont need a skin to play the game.What I dont understand is the people up in arms trying to tell others how to spend their money and btching about something they are saying they are not going to purchase anyway.GREAT dont buy it then!
The Blizzard cycle: - desperately wants the game to be as good as old-school Blizzard - spends 100 EUR on pre-purchase - game is super good for 2 months - Bobby notices player count and wants a new yacht - Bobby calls the BoD and forces priority on cash shop - game goes to waste because every cool cosmetic is now in the shop for 25 EUR and sense of achievement of actually playing drops below 0 - large part of the player base quits, only whales stick around - game is dead but Bobby never made more money because cashcowing a minority of idiots is more lucrative then respecting the player base - Bobby takes a few months of on his new yacht before ruining another franchise - oh wait, no...Diablo was the last great franchise left to ruin for Bobby
While I agree with you and hate cosmetic shops and the monetization behind them I still don't understand why people lose their shit about a cosmetic shop. I don't see the value of buying something that makes you look cool and how that makes the game shit, I just don't see the correlation
@@mikef410 it's not so much its existence in so far as its knowing full well how much more important that feature is over everything else. Many live service games will curtail any meaningful progress in the game to prioritise the cosmetic shop and battle pass. Even removing content that was supposed to be included, and paywalling it. They will very intentionally add very bad looking customisers that you can earn in the game for free. Intentionally making the base game look ugly, incentivising the cash shop. A major offender of this are games like Apex Legends. Cosmetics don't feel genuine anymore. They're not add-ons that feel optional like gun skins in Black Ops 2 or League of Legends skins. They are screaming at your face and almost mock you for not having it in these new games.
@@RaeneYT while I do agree with you on your points, that is the problem with some people that you are "mocked" for not having these skins. It's like being at a party and being mocked for not doing really hard drugs that can hurt you potentially in the long run. I just tell people where to go and how to do it if they have a problem and especially in a game where I have to buy something to appease them
once again I totally get your gripes. I'm going on 42 in August and don't like where some of these companies have gone with season passes and battles passes but one thing you have to consider is this, when I was growing up some Nintendo games were $99.99 CAD. This game came out to I think $120 after taxes for the early access. I just choose not to give extra money because I can skip those bundle options because they mean nothing to me in the grand scheme of things because I value gameplay over the look of a game and I think that their is more of metric why people play games for gameplay more than looks. That's just me though
@@mikef410 it’s also the fact why aren’t half of the cosmetics obtainable in game? We paid 60-100$ for the game and cosmetics is one more thing that can be available content for players to work for. You can implement cosmetics to be both attainable in game and through using the credit card. Like one guy said it takes resources away from making the game better when you paid 70+ for the game
@@savuflorin6242 they are at that price because there are enough idiots playing games nowadays fall for predatory monetization psy ops. The world is full of NPC's that will take anything up the rectum and smile their way through it. Cosmetics really should be included in the 100 $ version of the game. Hell, at this point I would gladly pay 200 USD/EUR for a version that just eliminates the countless bundles of 25 USD cashgrabs getting flaunted in my face every hour I play.
@@Iron883Man "Cosmetics really should be included in the 100 $ version of the game" - you dont get it, this is live service game with free seasons and some free new content in future, another thing is that is always online - you need servers to run this game - they needs money to run this and support this game. There is only two monetization models - microtransactions or subscription (wow style) and they choose microtransaction. There is not possible to run and support this game in long run without any new money injections.
@@Daidalos66 you are clearly one of the type I mentioned if you think there are only 2 monetization models. You're the one not getting you are being slapped with 3 monetization models in 1 game: 1) 70 USD base price 2) Battle pass 3) In-game shop, and a particular egregious one at that You are an idiot if you think Activision would not be able to support this game for at least a few years without 25 USD bundles in the in-game shop. There are free-to-play games that are doing perfectly fine with cheaper bundles or season pass. But please go on simping for a billion dollar multinational as if they were a small indy company barely keeping afloat while telling everyone who doesn't do the same 'is just not getting it' :'D
These companies really need to re evaluate the pricing for skins. $20 should be max price. But you’d think they would realize they’d sell way more skins at 10-15$ rather than 20-30.
why evaluate when dumbasses are still paying for it. if anything, i'm surprised they aren't pricing it at 30 or 40 dollars, clearly people are still gonna buy it
@@GhostMan407 Your logic does not work in reality in the slightest, people are extremely complex. Me for example, I've bought 1 cod blueprint my whole life and it was 13 dollars on sale and I solely bought it because of the cod points you got in return. I've never spent a single dime on another blueprint before or after. People aren't black and white, there are tons of factors that go into someone's decision whether or not to purchase mtx, 10 is fine for me, 30 is insane.
@@GhostMan407 bro I'll spend 10$ on a skin but not 30 because I'm not spending the amount a full fucking game costs for some fucking colorful pixels. Look at you shilling like corporate bootlicker. You got blizzards stocks or something?
While I agree diablo 4 looks really good, trying to condemn people for not trusting blizzard when they have just shit on the players trust time and time again over and over at every single step seems ridiculous to me. When you corrode your player bases trust as much as blizzard has done, you breed a skeptical fanbase. Even if everything revealed so far looks amazing, every player will always have in the back of their mind "oh but I can't forget that time blizzard literally fucking lied about this bullshit or that bullshit". People see patterns, and blizzard has a pattern of fucking over their player base, so even if everything on a surface level looks okay, not wanting to support blizzards bullshit or being skeptical of if the game will actually be good is completely reasonable
yep, I totally agree with you. I've already said before here and to friends that I really want to play this game, badly. But I'm obviously reticent about it given all the information we have on Blizzards m.o. There is a very self-evident difference between rationally hesitating and hating, and it seems to fly way above a lot of people's heads. Not because they bought the game, but because if presented with others' reasons not to buy it RIGHT NOW, they simply brush it aside as "copium", as a means to disable the fun out of those who have actually bought it. Many times that's simply not the case. Like I said, I really want to play this. I can afford the price tag. I'll probably play it at some point, when all's patched and done and said for. I'm just VERY hesitant about jumping in because there is literally no way of knowing how Blizzard will handle the game's future, given Blizzard being Blizzard, so there's that.
Some insight for California businesses, they seem to be struggling although they say they are not Companies like mine are pulling out of the major cities because it costs too much rent. We went from being the wealthiest place to being drowned by our own prices The irony.....*sighs* Blizzard must be feeling some of this heat Hopefully D4 is a W for them despite everybody hating them
no matter how much I hate some of the systems in Lost Ark, D4 don't even come close to what it could of been if it just added more stuff from Lost Ark. Like combat and boss fights
Pro tip. The mount can be unlocked in the 3rd act/zone but you can skip the first two acts and jump to the 3rd immediately to get the mount. Source, another video from a reviewer
@@TheDispiteous in the quest journal the will be filled under which act they are from. The main quests for the act will show up will a number on the map symbol pertaining to which act it is.
Id rather go play Guild Wars 2. It has everything people seem so hyped about, Mount Abilities, a truly MASSIVE open world, fast paced combat with an emphasis on evading rather than tanking damage, nonlinear questing where you get to chose what you play first, a deep crafting system and then some. The base game is also f2p with a cosmetic/convenience only cashshop. Standardized gear stats might not be to everyones liking, altho it allows really good balancing especially in PvP. Vastly superior game imho. While D4 is undoubtedly a massive upgrade over previous Diablos, Blizz couldve still done alot more. Where are Raids? Wheres actual new mechanics from Paragons instead of plain stat increase? FFA events? Flying mounts? Etc, etc... Im kinda dissapointed.
I've never liked armor cosmetics, as soon as transmog hit WoW, they stopped trying to make the in-game armor sets look unique or good. Nothing made me want to raid more than seeing a warrior standing in Orgimar wearing T3 armor. I have zero care about someone's gear score.
Its so weird to me that you can get the ENTIRE game for 70 dollars, yet they think it makes sense to Charge 100 dollars for enough premium currency to get like 5 skins. Since when does 5 skins cost most then the Entire game that costed millions of dollars and over 10 years to make??? its so obviously predatory towards people who cant control themselves..
I think this game looks great, and well I don't understand your chats comments about it being a D3 re-skin. I spent thousands of hours in that game, and yea there are comparisons you can make, but it defiantly is not a re-skin in the least bit. Played beta and it left me craving for more honestly. Blizzard fucked up with Immortal and they have been trying fix that since the " Don't you people have phones " comment. Not going keep holding that over them tbh. If game does end up dying FF16 and Revenant 2 is right around corner soooooooo. Think this will be another great Diablo though.
Y'all can't ding games for being repetitive but then praise this. All you're doing is clicking on enemies to kill them. That is all of the different things you can do. What's it going to be?
ARPGs are slot machines, ppl might not want to admit this but in the end you're not playing the game because of the game play its the high of dropping the rare item, same as slot machines its not rly fun to play but thats not why people spend hours on them.
Look boring to me. First time ever i don’t buy blizzard game and i play D2 for a decade. Maybe when he come to 50% off and a few season passed but i haven’t the hype for this game.
Exactly, mostly because WT2 doesn't effect main and side quest rewards so you end up getting the same amount of gold anyways... As for XP you are going to be more or less reach level 50 before you even touch all those hundreds of dungeons.
The idea among Gamers[tm] that anything involved in game development can be considered lazy is hella stupid. Designing armor, while not looking the way you want it to, is not easy, or something you can do lazily. It's hard as shit. People need to start educating themselves
oh how the tides have turned, all kinds of arpgs taking aspects of diablo they like (incl PoE) and now diablo does it (from PoE). Hurrah for ARPGS getting better. (or at least staying fresh)
i personally hate the mount. not because its in it but because what it means and symbolizes. that the world is too big and generic to hold your attention for long enough so you need to speed through it. not interesting enough from waypoint to waypoint.
I’m taking the campaign slow, not going to rush it I’ll only do the campaign once and after that I’ll cut scenes and speed run and worry about endgame but first time I’m clearing everything.
my biggest complaint is getting half way through a dungeon and the game loses connection, or a mission bugs out and I have to relog doing the mission all over again.
I've played for 15 hours and I haven't started act two yet. I've been enjoying completing all the side quests, exploring the world. Basically, I played D4 like breath of the wild, and I highly recommend it. I'm sure I will eventually get burned out, but as of right now, the game is extremely enjoyable just running through all the dungeons and struggling with world tier two bosses.
The reviews will be positive until the start of the first season where all that hard work building up your first main character gets thrown in the fkn trash and you have to start all over then. And then you have to do that every few months. GAG. Seasonal content IS story content monetized because they will let the fomo wreck your mental health. GL to you all.
4-6 weeks is about a month and a half which is pretty avg for season retention for people give or take a couple weeks depending on the strength of the season itself.
I think this world is just the first version, the sanctuary is about 3 times as big as what we get on launch. Sounds sometimes that people doesn't realize that mount that drop aren't realy mounts, they're just mount skins.
Reviewers don't tend to be overly negative about pre-release games because either the game is different from release or they'll get blacklisted if they don't recommend the game. It's not about being a "shill" or not, reviewers only want people to consume their content and make money from that. No game review because blacklisted means no content for the reviewer. Simple.
So many reviewers saying endgame isn't at all challenging. Sounds pretty boring. At least GRs in D3 took some skill (other than excessive fishing). I've played every previous Diablo, but not touching this shit. OW2, WC3 Reforged, Diablo Immortal, all have been awful. Calling it now this is gonna flop HARD. Streamers will play it for a few days-weeks (likely sponsored) and drop it once they hit endgame.
Blizz has perfected SELLING the games, but they forgot how to MAKE the games - the cinematic trailer for any blizzard has been absolutely amazing since the beginning
The chase is better than the catch. And this is one of the reason why I didnt buy Diablo 4. I am not interested into gearing my character by no lifing in 2-3 weeks time, im more interested in no lifing to find creme de la creme like in Diablo 2. I want to enjoy the journey of slow leveling and taking my time with it. I dont want to see rain of uniques or legendaries, i am perfectly fine with ocassional rnd dopamine shots like in D2 when Ber rune drops or even lesser ones. Something that rewards me for my countless grind.
100% on the scaling. Higher level weapons feel like lower level weapons at a lot of points for no reason. Makes the character feel slow and not powerful
These are Nightmare Dungeons and they have already been announced and will be at the start of the season. But do not forget that there is also a 4th level of difficulty - Hell. I dare to suggest that the main killer feature of the 2nd season will be the introduction of the Hell Dungeons, access to which will be opened only to those who have passed 100 ND in solo. Also the open world is huge, but it's only 1/4 of the Sanctuary. With a new patch, season or addon, along with a new hero, 100% will introduce new locations, a new region, ideally like 2 current regions.
I think a lot of people just don't want to give Blizzard any money after the shit they pulled on Classic WoW, Overwatch 2 and Diablo Immortal, even if Diablo 4 is a decent game. I can understand the "I play the game 1 month, get my money's worth and move on before they ruin it with microtransactions" though.
Why does nightmare dungeons remind me of mythic + and torghast. Cinder farming reminds me of elemental overflow farming. I feel like diablo 4 is just a WoW reskin!
so now that the game is out, it really did not deserve all the hype in my opinion. although some will say '' well its live service , so obviously it wont have much content on release'' , this is really bare bones for a game of this type. very few items to chase come late game and you feel like you have seen everything around level 60-70 , and by the time you hit 70-75 , all you do is chase down the exact same gear you already have , just higher item power. currently there is also not that much build diversity per class, and some are almost forced to use certain skills depending on if you are playing HC or not. Don't even see D4 becoming a worthy game in its genre before maybe after 1-2 years of added content and ironing out bugs / faulty systems (resist stat cant possibly be working as intended f.ex)
yes you can group capstones which defeats the whole purpose of them. I guess blizzard will change that at some point though cause its jsut stupid. Also the second one needs to be either harder or getting item lvl 700ish gear in wt3 needs to be harder. Ppl rush through wt3 currently. Clearing second capstone at lvl 55-60 instead of 70ish.
I've been doing this and I love it. I refused a carry through the capstone I haven't looked up any builds for my character and I haven't used the interactive Map. I want diablo to but fun as long as possible
It's my first Diablo and I'm lvl 62 in 3 days world 2 is what I started on I'm addicted and in world 3. But there also wasn't shit to play when it dropped so who knows. Still grinding tho. Def start world 3 veteran stomp out campaign then put it on world 3 to do side quests and all that because more exp in world 3
I just dont get why everyone is saying the world is so massive, seems small to me. Even though we played only a part of it in beta, it was fully discovered in no time.
I hope Diablo 4 is the greatest, most viral, must play game ever because I own company stock. I personally won't be buying it though, repetitive loot farming isn't my cup of tea.
Been playing for a few days by now, level 48 rogue. All I can say is that I’ve had so, so much fun doing the content so far, and seeing the content left ahead I’m really happy to see the content that’s to come
Literally could not care less about cosmetics. I don't even transmog. As long as it stays cosmetics they can charge whatever they want as far as I am concerned
the mount you get from the mainquest. Right at the start of Act 4 (giving a lvl is kind of dumb). On a second char you have it from the start when you unlocked it before. Even if you play the campaign again.
I like what you were saying about the people hating on a game (the I told you so effect). Also, seventy dollars is like what.....20 beers in the US? Less? How much value are you going to get out of 20 beers?
Asmongold: if u cant afford 70 dollar game in a western world u prolly shouldnt be playing games. Agreed. But its not equal. In canada the standard edition is 90 CAD! W/O gst/hst added! T_T So... it does feel brutal sometimes.
In dif 4 legendaries will be yealows, sacred will be legendaries, and uniqe will be uniqe after seson 1 they add sets for all classes than in the 2024/2025 we will hear abut first big expansion to the game for 75 us dolars.
What? Lost ark is not a good game. I have one character at 1500 gs and 2 character over 1450. Lost ark is extremely Pay to win garbage with absolute shit endgame
@@dillonwatkins1511 he talks about combat which is hard to compare imo since its two completely different style, but lost ark combat indeed looks and feels better then D4 but idk if its even fair to compare its like complaining gta driving isnt as good as forza.
The micro transactions aren't the problem, it's the price. Fortnite sells licensed skins for $15, I loved buying skins to support the games I love to play but it's gotten to expensive anymore to do so
Asmond say mmo like features are good in diablo, also asmond fromsoft secret... Yeah i would love to have diablo just for single player but blizzard dont want to earn lot of money they want all the money. And thats why fromsoft, CDP etc are soo good becasue their games are made for single player as experience not daily quest, or as I like to call it chores. Becasue evrybody likes to do boring repeatable stuff not specially crafted activities, places quest etc
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a new class für d3 coming with new skills, items, voicelines, and so on: $15
a new cosmetic set in d4: $24
some time has passed since 2014
bro just fucking stop already. We get it.
@@Ingwar1993 Very true, counterpoint, every other game's fuckin mtx even in the modern gaming landscape isn't this garbage (besides, of course, Acti-Blizz games).
Chicken breast in 2014: $1.99
Chicken breast in 2023: $34.29
You mean expansion like necromancer an extra $50
From someone who has never played a Diablo game ever. My first experience in closed beta, open beta, and server slam I have to say I had a lot of fun and enjoyment out of it. A lot of exploration, story, and side quests/stories. I am excited for it! I think it will be a lot of fun and a good experience over all.
Diablo is great but the end game being poorly designed is the issue but we will see 🤟🤟
Going to be my first Diablo experience too. Playing on my first ever gaming pc. I’m anticipating having a blast for several months.
diablo 4 will be good Don't just play through the story do seasons too every few months like in Path of exile then it's worth it,games like these you play for years.
I enjoyed the beta also. Especially with friends
Same dude! So excited!
Asmons logic toward the end gets a little flawed, or maybe hypocritical... deciding not to play D4 because of what has happened with OW2 is perfectly logical in the sense that as he always preaches, speak with your wallet. Why hand a company more money, in any franchise when you have lost faith in their ability to deliver overall.
@@asddasdasdasdadsa you kind of proved my point. On one hand he’s preached about how things won’t change unless people do these types of things. And then he will turn around and also say what you’ve said.
On this subject at least, he flip flops repeatedly depending on whatever side he wants to argue that day seemingly.
But he still gets on wow even though he says its dying but gets on it every day to keep his account active
@@asddasdasdasdadsa it only works when people dont buy it look at battlefield and halo they bought the new ones play them went back to what they were playing previously had they stayed updated would still be playing them
Thats really nothing new. He always does that with games wich would make for good streaming content for him.
I dont think anyone watches him for his genius logic tbh 😂, we watch for the same reason that we watch xQc, live degeneracy 😂
They put the cosmetics at 2800, just to add that 300 bonus to the 25$ bundle, so, later in the game lifespan, they will either lower that bonus or get rid of it, and people will have to buy either the next bundle, or the 25$ and a smaller one
@@shinski8114 Isn't that the point?
@@shinski8114 it's pretty much always going to be that way, people aren't paying otherwise, welcome to cash shops 🙏
@@shinski8114 lol the stuff you earn looks way better than the stuff in shop.
@@shinski8114 necro set is the only thing mabey worth it.But that being said still the class has better looking gear.The necro horse armor is pretty sick though.
@@fatbroccoli8 Yup and if people throw money at it they will.I dont give a fck and I dont need a skin to play the game.What I dont understand is the people up in arms trying to tell others how to spend their money and btching about something they are saying they are not going to purchase anyway.GREAT dont buy it then!
The Blizzard cycle:
- desperately wants the game to be as good as old-school Blizzard
- spends 100 EUR on pre-purchase
- game is super good for 2 months
- Bobby notices player count and wants a new yacht
- Bobby calls the BoD and forces priority on cash shop
- game goes to waste because every cool cosmetic is now in the shop for 25 EUR and sense of achievement of actually playing drops below 0
- large part of the player base quits, only whales stick around
- game is dead but Bobby never made more money because cashcowing a minority of idiots is more lucrative then respecting the player base
- Bobby takes a few months of on his new yacht before ruining another franchise
- oh wait, no...Diablo was the last great franchise left to ruin for Bobby
While I agree with you and hate cosmetic shops and the monetization behind them I still don't understand why people lose their shit about a cosmetic shop.
I don't see the value of buying something that makes you look cool and how that makes the game shit, I just don't see the correlation
@@mikef410 it's not so much its existence in so far as its knowing full well how much more important that feature is over everything else. Many live service games will curtail any meaningful progress in the game to prioritise the cosmetic shop and battle pass. Even removing content that was supposed to be included, and paywalling it. They will very intentionally add very bad looking customisers that you can earn in the game for free. Intentionally making the base game look ugly, incentivising the cash shop. A major offender of this are games like Apex Legends.
Cosmetics don't feel genuine anymore. They're not add-ons that feel optional like gun skins in Black Ops 2 or League of Legends skins. They are screaming at your face and almost mock you for not having it in these new games.
@@RaeneYT while I do agree with you on your points, that is the problem with some people that you are "mocked" for not having these skins. It's like being at a party and being mocked for not doing really hard drugs that can hurt you potentially in the long run. I just tell people where to go and how to do it if they have a problem and especially in a game where I have to buy something to appease them
once again I totally get your gripes. I'm going on 42 in August and don't like where some of these companies have gone with season passes and battles passes but one thing you have to consider is this, when I was growing up some Nintendo games were $99.99 CAD. This game came out to I think $120 after taxes for the early access.
I just choose not to give extra money because I can skip those bundle options because they mean nothing to me in the grand scheme of things because I value gameplay over the look of a game and I think that their is more of metric why people play games for gameplay more than looks. That's just me though
@@mikef410 it’s also the fact why aren’t half of the cosmetics obtainable in game? We paid 60-100$ for the game and cosmetics is one more thing that can be available content for players to work for. You can implement cosmetics to be both attainable in game and through using the credit card. Like one guy said it takes resources away from making the game better when you paid 70+ for the game
Force was the first review I watched for D4 and one of the best imo. Gives you all the details, clear cut, no bs.
V rising has a great mount skill system. V rising mounts have speed boost, jump obstacles and attack while mounted.
@@leafarasta4517 You don't know what a "MMO" is do you?
v rising as mmo would be suxx af. they keep the arpg style is better...
I like turtles!
The price of cosmetics need to be reduced by 75%. Cosmetics shouldn't be 1/3 the price of the full game.
They are at that price because people buy it
@@savuflorin6242 they are at that price because there are enough idiots playing games nowadays fall for predatory monetization psy ops. The world is full of NPC's that will take anything up the rectum and smile their way through it.
Cosmetics really should be included in the 100 $ version of the game. Hell, at this point I would gladly pay 200 USD/EUR for a version that just eliminates the countless bundles of 25 USD cashgrabs getting flaunted in my face every hour I play.
@@Iron883Man "Cosmetics really should be included in the 100 $ version of the game" - you dont get it, this is live service game with free seasons and some free new content in future, another thing is that is always online - you need servers to run this game - they needs money to run this and support this game. There is only two monetization models - microtransactions or subscription (wow style) and they choose microtransaction. There is not possible to run and support this game in long run without any new money injections.
@@Daidalos66 you are clearly one of the type I mentioned if you think there are only 2 monetization models.
You're the one not getting you are being slapped with 3 monetization models in 1 game:
1) 70 USD base price
2) Battle pass
3) In-game shop, and a particular egregious one at that
You are an idiot if you think Activision would not be able to support this game for at least a few years without 25 USD bundles in the in-game shop. There are free-to-play games that are doing perfectly fine with cheaper bundles or season pass. But please go on simping for a billion dollar multinational as if they were a small indy company barely keeping afloat while telling everyone who doesn't do the same 'is just not getting it' :'D
@Jiggy B like most people do.
Can we stop calling them "micro" transactions. They are macro.
Yeah keep telling all the girls that buddy
The concept fell victim to capitalism most have no idea
Don’t buy them, nobody is making you. If you really want them get a job
You don’t like it don’t buy it 🤷♂️
what's the joke here?
These companies really need to re evaluate the pricing for skins. $20 should be max price. But you’d think they would realize they’d sell way more skins at 10-15$ rather than 20-30.
But you can have this deluxe skin for $50 and people will buy it because FOMO is so powerful
why evaluate when dumbasses are still paying for it. if anything, i'm surprised they aren't pricing it at 30 or 40 dollars, clearly people are still gonna buy it
Skins should be cents not dollars… fight me.
@@GhostMan407 Your logic does not work in reality in the slightest, people are extremely complex. Me for example, I've bought 1 cod blueprint my whole life and it was 13 dollars on sale and I solely bought it because of the cod points you got in return. I've never spent a single dime on another blueprint before or after. People aren't black and white, there are tons of factors that go into someone's decision whether or not to purchase mtx, 10 is fine for me, 30 is insane.
@@GhostMan407 bro I'll spend 10$ on a skin but not 30 because I'm not spending the amount a full fucking game costs for some fucking colorful pixels. Look at you shilling like corporate bootlicker. You got blizzards stocks or something?
D4 devs: So what about endgame?
Just make Greater rifts but call them Nightmare dungeons...
Amazing innovation...
While I agree diablo 4 looks really good, trying to condemn people for not trusting blizzard when they have just shit on the players trust time and time again over and over at every single step seems ridiculous to me. When you corrode your player bases trust as much as blizzard has done, you breed a skeptical fanbase. Even if everything revealed so far looks amazing, every player will always have in the back of their mind "oh but I can't forget that time blizzard literally fucking lied about this bullshit or that bullshit". People see patterns, and blizzard has a pattern of fucking over their player base, so even if everything on a surface level looks okay, not wanting to support blizzards bullshit or being skeptical of if the game will actually be good is completely reasonable
yep, I totally agree with you. I've already said before here and to friends that I really want to play this game, badly. But I'm obviously reticent about it given all the information we have on Blizzards m.o. There is a very self-evident difference between rationally hesitating and hating, and it seems to fly way above a lot of people's heads. Not because they bought the game, but because if presented with others' reasons not to buy it RIGHT NOW, they simply brush it aside as "copium", as a means to disable the fun out of those who have actually bought it. Many times that's simply not the case.
Like I said, I really want to play this. I can afford the price tag. I'll probably play it at some point, when all's patched and done and said for. I'm just VERY hesitant about jumping in because there is literally no way of knowing how Blizzard will handle the game's future, given Blizzard being Blizzard, so there's that.
Blizzard is like cheating or lying girlfriend , you can never trust becouse you know she can do it again even if she is now behaving perfect ;p
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Played Diablo 3 and enjoyed it im no expert on Diablo but this looks like a good game and im looking forward to playing it .
Some insight for California businesses, they seem to be struggling although they say they are not
Companies like mine are pulling out of the major cities
because it costs too much rent.
We went from being the wealthiest place to being drowned by our own prices
The irony.....*sighs*
Blizzard must be feeling some of this heat
Hopefully D4 is a W for them
despite everybody hating them
always laugh at the end of the diablo 4 videos asmon spends like 7 minutes running defense for dear old blizz what a good guy
Because his stream is full of troglodytes and he’s gotta set them straight
bills cant be paid by good will alone
Found the hater
no matter how much I hate some of the systems in Lost Ark, D4 don't even come close to what it could of been if it just added more stuff from Lost Ark. Like combat and boss fights
Diablo 3.5 with shop/upraged graphics. i will wait 1-2weeks before even thinking buy it
Pro tip. The mount can be unlocked in the 3rd act/zone but you can skip the first two acts and jump to the 3rd immediately to get the mount. Source, another video from a reviewer
Does that actually skip story or can you just go back and do it as soon as you get the mount?
@@Skullgar no you can do the acts in any order also the mount quest is just a side quest.
Which zone is the Act III? I mean are they numbered in game or how do I know?
@@TheDispiteous in the quest journal the will be filled under which act they are from. The main quests for the act will show up will a number on the map symbol pertaining to which act it is.
@@atorothcassidy4866 legandary behaviour mate, thank you!
Id rather go play Guild Wars 2. It has everything people seem so hyped about, Mount Abilities, a truly MASSIVE open world, fast paced combat with an emphasis on evading rather than tanking damage, nonlinear questing where you get to chose what you play first, a deep crafting system and then some. The base game is also f2p with a cosmetic/convenience only cashshop.
Standardized gear stats might not be to everyones liking, altho it allows really good balancing especially in PvP.
Vastly superior game imho. While D4 is undoubtedly a massive upgrade over previous Diablos, Blizz couldve still done alot more.
Where are Raids? Wheres actual new mechanics from Paragons instead of plain stat increase? FFA events? Flying mounts? Etc, etc... Im kinda dissapointed.
my biggest questions were about the paragon board and this video got me extra hype now
I've never liked armor cosmetics, as soon as transmog hit WoW, they stopped trying to make the in-game armor sets look unique or good. Nothing made me want to raid more than seeing a warrior standing in Orgimar wearing T3 armor. I have zero care about someone's gear score.
When it's half price i may check it out, doesn't look worth 70 bucks at the moment..
Yeah might get it after first DLC, think the base game will be pretty hollow just like D3
Too much monetization for me. There are plenty of other games out there.
Its so weird to me that you can get the ENTIRE game for 70 dollars, yet they think it makes sense to Charge 100 dollars for enough premium currency to get like 5 skins. Since when does 5 skins cost most then the Entire game that costed millions of dollars and over 10 years to make??? its so obviously predatory towards people who cant control themselves..
Sounds like a them problem tbh.imo in game cosmetics are better than the shop ones rn
I have most of the rogue skins but it’s more of a if you don’t want them don’t buy them if u want them buy them
Been watching Force since the starcraft 2 days, man what a ride
Remember the force fed days 😂
"I'm not gonna bore you with the basics" - proceeds to talk about the basics.
i watched force review it, now im reactin to asmon watchin forces review lmao
I think this game looks great, and well I don't understand your chats comments about it being a D3 re-skin. I spent thousands of hours in that game, and yea there are comparisons you can make, but it defiantly is not a re-skin in the least bit. Played beta and it left me craving for more honestly. Blizzard fucked up with Immortal and they have been trying fix that since the " Don't you people have phones " comment. Not going keep holding that over them tbh. If game does end up dying FF16 and Revenant 2 is right around corner soooooooo. Think this will be another great Diablo though.
Y'all can't ding games for being repetitive but then praise this. All you're doing is clicking on enemies to kill them. That is all of the different things you can do. What's it going to be?
I don't think it looks interesting at all! Black desert and Genshin have raised my standard for action immensely, I guess.
ARPGs are slot machines, ppl might not want to admit this but in the end you're not playing the game because of the game play its the high of dropping the rare item, same as slot machines its not rly fun to play but thats not why people spend hours on them.
Look boring to me. First time ever i don’t buy blizzard game and i play D2 for a decade. Maybe when he come to 50% off and a few season passed but i haven’t the hype for this game.
Asmon's dumbass takes:
>You can't mistrust blizzard before the product is out!
The entirety of blizzard's history:
Just admit you're selling out.
Zizaran has said he’s doing world tier 1 because world tier 2 rewards are not worth the step up in difficulty
Exactly, mostly because WT2 doesn't effect main and side quest rewards so you end up getting the same amount of gold anyways... As for XP you are going to be more or less reach level 50 before you even touch all those hundreds of dungeons.
I totally agree on the character customization. It felt lazy, I know we gonna get armours and stuff but still lol.
Not if you don't pay for it, everything that's not paid in this game will most likely look like trash
The idea among Gamers[tm] that anything involved in game development can be considered lazy is hella stupid. Designing armor, while not looking the way you want it to, is not easy, or something you can do lazily. It's hard as shit. People need to start educating themselves
oh how the tides have turned, all kinds of arpgs taking aspects of diablo they like (incl PoE) and now diablo does it (from PoE). Hurrah for ARPGS getting better. (or at least staying fresh)
i personally hate the mount. not because its in it but because what it means and symbolizes. that the world is too big and generic to hold your attention for long enough so you need to speed through it. not interesting enough from waypoint to waypoint.
I’m taking the campaign slow, not going to rush it I’ll only do the campaign once and after that I’ll cut scenes and speed run and worry about endgame but first time I’m clearing everything.
my biggest complaint is getting half way through a dungeon and the game loses connection, or a mission bugs out and I have to relog doing the mission all over again.
so POE is free but has an optional cosmetics shop, Blizzard - lets charge £60 for the game and have the POE model on top...
lol, huge open world multi-player arpg with mounts and mounted combat? Sacred 2 anyone?
Welcome Blizzard 15 years later.
I've played for 15 hours and I haven't started act two yet. I've been enjoying completing all the side quests, exploring the world. Basically, I played D4 like breath of the wild, and I highly recommend it. I'm sure I will eventually get burned out, but as of right now, the game is extremely enjoyable just running through all the dungeons and struggling with world tier two bosses.
"I'm sure I will eventually get burned out"... Gamepad really helps hey.
The reviews will be positive until the start of the first season where all that hard work building up your first main character gets thrown in the fkn trash and you have to start all over then. And then you have to do that every few months. GAG. Seasonal content IS story content monetized because they will let the fomo wreck your mental health. GL to you all.
Hmm, idk why the game doesn't look interesting enough for me. Probably because I'm just really into the games im currently playing.
10:50 They were called Balrogs in D1-D2-D3. It'd be weird if they weren't called Balrogs in D4.
Asmongold doesn't know shit about the Diablo franchise.
Because they have to be different for some reason
4-6 weeks is about a month and a half which is pretty avg for season retention for people give or take a couple weeks depending on the strength of the season itself.
Don’t forget a month and a half is about 42 days and 42 days is about 11.5% of a year
Thats normally the drop off of for most games unless your hardcore or do bot farms for equipment
Really hope they make the end game worth sticking around for
I'm so happy I got my refund
I think this world is just the first version, the sanctuary is about 3 times as big as what we get on launch.
Sounds sometimes that people doesn't realize that mount that drop aren't realy mounts, they're just mount skins.
Reviewers don't tend to be overly negative about pre-release games because either the game is different from release or they'll get blacklisted if they don't recommend the game. It's not about being a "shill" or not, reviewers only want people to consume their content and make money from that. No game review because blacklisted means no content for the reviewer. Simple.
Nightmare dungeons are just GR's you can't TP to, change my mind.
That's the safe option unless its done like tiny tina wonderland where you start it die and you lose everything
calling it now, ember packs will be sold on the store, aswell as generall resource boosters
So many reviewers saying endgame isn't at all challenging. Sounds pretty boring. At least GRs in D3 took some skill (other than excessive fishing). I've played every previous Diablo, but not touching this shit. OW2, WC3 Reforged, Diablo Immortal, all have been awful. Calling it now this is gonna flop HARD. Streamers will play it for a few days-weeks (likely sponsored) and drop it once they hit endgame.
Blizz has perfected SELLING the games, but they forgot how to MAKE the games - the cinematic trailer for any blizzard has been absolutely amazing since the beginning
The chase is better than the catch. And this is one of the reason why I didnt buy Diablo 4. I am not interested into gearing my character by no lifing in 2-3 weeks time, im more interested in no lifing to find creme de la creme like in Diablo 2. I want to enjoy the journey of slow leveling and taking my time with it. I dont want to see rain of uniques or legendaries, i am perfectly fine with ocassional rnd dopamine shots like in D2 when Ber rune drops or even lesser ones. Something that rewards me for my countless grind.
Anyone here playing it on the steam deck? It looks like the controller configuration looks really good.
100% on the scaling. Higher level weapons feel like lower level weapons at a lot of points for no reason. Makes the character feel slow and not powerful
I’m definitely going to take my time and side quest it. Take it all in.
These are Nightmare Dungeons and they have already been announced and will be at the start of the season. But do not forget that there is also a 4th level of difficulty - Hell. I dare to suggest that the main killer feature of the 2nd season will be the introduction of the Hell Dungeons, access to which will be opened only to those who have passed 100 ND in solo.
Also the open world is huge, but it's only 1/4 of the Sanctuary. With a new patch, season or addon, along with a new hero, 100% will introduce new locations, a new region, ideally like 2 current regions.
I think a lot of people just don't want to give Blizzard any money after the shit they pulled on Classic WoW, Overwatch 2 and Diablo Immortal, even if Diablo 4 is a decent game. I can understand the "I play the game 1 month, get my money's worth and move on before they ruin it with microtransactions" though.
I mean destiny 2 all there new skins or even old skins are all 20$ also so don’t see why people would be mad at This it’s literally nothing new…
When he said “its time” my brains like Its time to D D D D D D DUELLL!!!!
someone needs to tell this dude what a review is good lord.
Glad Im not buying it. Looks worth skipping and Im shocked to say or feel that way.
Took me 3 days to finish the campaign. It was awesome.
I feel like im the only one who thinks Lost Ark was in a league of its own and im really worried Diablo is gonna flop in comparison
Why does nightmare dungeons remind me of mythic + and torghast. Cinder farming reminds me of elemental overflow farming. I feel like diablo 4 is just a WoW reskin!
path of exile 2 here i come.
DIABLO IS OLD and remains old in 2023
Knowing Zack doesn't fuck with RUclips. makes the titles fucking cringy when they put "I's and "Me's" Iuno, feels weird.
The nightmare, dungeon enemies go all the way to level 150
Re PVP..Great, who cares about that? Arpgs is not for PVP . As a grupy old git,played Diablo 1 at release=Im hyped
"Grumpy" 😃 blame it on my K-board..
31:16 thats the reason gaming industry became what it is
Can’t wait for D4, now if only 3 kids and wife will allow me to play
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This is why god created child support.
so now that the game is out, it really did not deserve all the hype in my opinion.
although some will say '' well its live service , so obviously it wont have much content on release'' ,
this is really bare bones for a game of this type. very few items to chase come late game and you feel like you have seen everything around level 60-70 , and by the time you hit 70-75 , all you do is chase down the exact same gear you already have , just higher item power.
currently there is also not that much build diversity per class, and some are almost forced to use certain skills depending on if you are playing HC or not.
Don't even see D4 becoming a worthy game in its genre before maybe after 1-2 years of added content and ironing out bugs / faulty systems (resist stat cant possibly be working as intended f.ex)
yes you can group capstones which defeats the whole purpose of them. I guess blizzard will change that at some point though cause its jsut stupid. Also the second one needs to be either harder or getting item lvl 700ish gear in wt3 needs to be harder. Ppl rush through wt3 currently. Clearing second capstone at lvl 55-60 instead of 70ish.
I've been doing this and I love it. I refused a carry through the capstone I haven't looked up any builds for my character and I haven't used the interactive Map. I want diablo to but fun as long as possible
Just finished watching the original video, now im here, in case i missed something
This game looks so bad for 2024. This is worth money?
Yes and No,most skills are simply copied from other games,wtf
It's my first Diablo and I'm lvl 62 in 3 days world 2 is what I started on I'm addicted and in world 3. But there also wasn't shit to play when it dropped so who knows. Still grinding tho. Def start world 3 veteran stomp out campaign then put it on world 3 to do side quests and all that because more exp in world 3
ummmmm balrog is copyrighted under the tolkein estate last i knew.....that seems like a copyright lawsuit waiting to happen
I just dont get why everyone is saying the world is so massive, seems small to me. Even though we played only a part of it in beta, it was fully discovered in no time.
I hope Diablo 4 is the greatest, most viral, must play game ever because I own company stock. I personally won't be buying it though, repetitive loot farming isn't my cup of tea.
imho a 70$ game having microtransactions should be banned
W title straight to the point 😂
Been playing for a few days by now, level 48 rogue. All I can say is that I’ve had so, so much fun doing the content so far, and seeing the content left ahead I’m really happy to see the content that’s to come
9 days of grinding and they are included in the race. What a joke of a company
Damn I already watched this without Asmon but I see Asmon videos so I have to click.
in Australia the standard edition for us is $109.95
That's 71 American, seems in line
Literally could not care less about cosmetics. I don't even transmog. As long as it stays cosmetics they can charge whatever they want as far as I am concerned
the mount you get from the mainquest. Right at the start of Act 4 (giving a lvl is kind of dumb). On a second char you have it from the start when you unlocked it before. Even if you play the campaign again.
I like what you were saying about the people hating on a game (the I told you so effect). Also, seventy dollars is like what.....20 beers in the US? Less? How much value are you going to get out of 20 beers?
31:30 blizzdrone moment
Asmongold: if u cant afford 70 dollar game in a western world u prolly shouldnt be playing games.
Agreed. But its not equal. In canada the standard edition is 90 CAD! W/O gst/hst added! T_T So... it does feel brutal sometimes.
In dif 4 legendaries will be yealows, sacred will be legendaries, and uniqe will be uniqe after seson 1 they add sets for all classes than in the 2024/2025 we will hear abut first big expansion to the game for 75 us dolars.
And what about the lore? Guess D4 is not for me, grinding and looting to max a build is such a waste of time IMO
Lost Ark > d4 sadly the combat of LA ruined d4 for me.....refunded after the beta
What? Lost ark is not a good game. I have one character at 1500 gs and 2 character over 1450. Lost ark is extremely Pay to win garbage with absolute shit endgame
@@dillonwatkins1511 he talks about combat which is hard to compare imo since its two completely different style, but lost ark combat indeed looks and feels better then D4 but idk if its even fair to compare its like complaining gta driving isnt as good as forza.
The micro transactions aren't the problem, it's the price. Fortnite sells licensed skins for $15, I loved buying skins to support the games I love to play but it's gotten to expensive anymore to do so
for someone who has never played a Diablo game before, is Diablo IV a good game to start with? Or should I start with III first?
Its a good game to start then play the others to understand the full story
no way asmongold rizzes blizzard for free haha or maybe he got paid hehe
Asmond say mmo like features are good in diablo, also asmond fromsoft secret... Yeah i would love to have diablo just for single player but blizzard dont want to earn lot of money they want all the money.
And thats why fromsoft, CDP etc are soo good becasue their games are made for single player as experience not daily quest, or as I like to call it chores. Becasue evrybody likes to do boring repeatable stuff not specially crafted activities, places quest etc