@@dewijlr Paul is so brilliant not many can understand him, as Paul's gospel of salvation of Romans is parallel to John's gospel, Romans written before AD70 and John after to witness all prophecy fulfilled. Until Tom understands there was no atonement at the Cross, Romans 5 to 8 are baptism not salvation, then he does not know Paul. I have a Ytube video series 'Myths in so-called Christianity' to start a conversation whilst I write a book, but most is available in the videos.
19:37 This is exactly what happened in my previous church (prior to relocating to other country due to the course of work)! They only had SEVEN songs in their rosters that they sing Sunday in Sunday out for YEARS. All of these are super simple songs, a few even biblically faulty. Lovely bunch of folks, but very resistant to change. The so-called "sing a new song" is truly an alien thing for them 😭
I think it is surprisingly more pervasive among many congregrations, especially these days. That's why teachings grounded in Scripture is very important - as new creations we ought to worship the Lord in both spirit and *truth*.
I appreciated hearing the generosity of spirit, a sort of grab bag of assorted opinions and stories from Dr. Wright. Would have loved it to hear more of the views and differences between Stott and Martin Lloyd- Jones and how the church in England has developed from the 70’s into the 21st century. I also thought the brushing by of the subject of deconstruction of the faith, some have called it, subtraction, would be a vital topic to explore. I guess, for me , it reminds me of ordering something at a fine dining restaurant that presents a bunch of incredible small plates, none of which actually satisfies,but only leaves you wanting more. You know darn well, you aren’t stopping at Burger King somewhere to fill up afterwards either. The Alec Motyer reference was duly noted. His books on the Psalms and Isaiah are worthy of any library.
Yes I noticed that. I loved Unbelievable when it started out around 2009. I realise it’s difficult to find new people to interview but please bring back some of the original great Christian’s …
@@jenniferbate9682 when Justin left he said something about keeping an eye on the feed for new content, but they've never released new content from Tom Wright.
Hallelujah!!! I’m blessed and favored with $60,000 every week! Now I can afford anything and support the work of God and the church. For Your glory, LORD! HALLELUJAH!
Absolutely! I have heard stories of people who started with little or no knowledge but managed to emerge victorious thanks to Ana Graciela Blackwelder.
Not really persecution, and not really for simply "telling the truth." Rather, he openly mocked the pope & Catholic church, and was given house arrest. It was a political maneuver, not a religious persecution. The heliocentrism debate was more of a backdrop. Persecution _did_ happen at the hands of the Catholic church, as well as some protestants, but Galileo is not really a good example of this. What Galileo is, is a good example of why the Church shouldn't be tied into governmental powers.
@@JosiahTheSiah And one thing that people tend to forget about Galileo is that he hadn't actually managed to prove his heliocentric hypothesis. We can prove it now, but at the time it was merely an interesting hypothesis.
@@tonyoliver2750 Right, there had existed mathematical models for heliocentrism for centuries as well, but these were far from accepted. Most people looked up and saw something that made its way across the sky in a predictable fashion day after day, year after year. It was a safe assumption that the earth was the center of all this celestial activity. After all, that Aristotle was a pretty smart guy. Nowadays with space photography, we have quite a different shared cultural imagination-but we've only had this benefit for the past 70 odd years. So geocentrism seems laughable to us, but for most of human history, it was the safe, default assumption.
@@JosiahTheSiah I, Galileo, son of the late Vincenzo Galilei, Florentine, aged seventy years, arraigned personally before this tribunal, and kneeling before you, Most Eminent and Reverend Lord Cardinals, Inquisitors-General against heretical depravity throughout the entire Christian commonwealth, having before my eyes and touching with my hands, the Holy Gospels, swear that I have always believed, do believe, and by God's help will in the future believe, all that is held, preached, and taught by the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. But whereas -- after an injunction had been judicially intimated to me by this Holy Office, to the effect that I must altogether abandon the false opinion that the sun is the center of the world and immovable, and that the earth is not the center of the world, and moves, and that I must not hold, defend, or teach in any way whatsoever, verbally or in writing, the said false doctrine, and after it had been notified to me that the said doctrine was contrary to Holy Scripture -- I wrote and printed a book in which I discuss this new doctrine already condemned, and adduce arguments of great cogency in its favor, without presenting any solution of these, and for this reason I have been pronounced by the Holy Office to be vehemently suspected of heresy, that is to say, of having held and believed that the Sun is the center of the world and immovable, and that the earth is not the center I based my comment on the above.
'Mr Wrong'. A good title. Christianity is the false teaching reported by Paul in the NT. My latest video 'Is Christianity the truth of the NT? No. Myths in so-called Christianity'.
@@pastors.nshange7660 The title of Mr Wrong is a bit smart sounding, but about 4 years ago I emailed back and forth to Tom who required me to read his book on Justification, I did and have the answers for him he said in his book he still lacks. Truly I have found the truth of the Cross, Justification and how atonement works in the new covenant, and the truth is in the NT but Christianity is the false teaching that Paul warned of that was both bewitching and beguiling. My videos are there to be checked out, which come from teaching I call 'hereafter'.
I suspect you would give up all your comfort to become destitute for no reason? Maybe you should reflect on everything Paul gave up to become one of the most, if not the most, persecuted Christian in history.
@@dennisfakoory5426 Paul is our hero as he described the false gospel teaching whilst he was alive, he was a Jew as was Jesus and his father in the flesh was Abraham. Paul only relates to his religion that came from Abraham, and set asidehis false believing of Moses, he was a lost sheep of Israel and returned to the flock. Paul did start Christianity he warned about its false teaching. This can be found in my video series.
St Paul is brilliant... And Tom Wright is a good scholar on Paul.
@@dewijlr Paul is so brilliant not many can understand him, as Paul's gospel of salvation of Romans is parallel to John's gospel, Romans written before AD70 and John after to witness all prophecy fulfilled.
Until Tom understands there was no atonement at the Cross, Romans 5 to 8 are baptism not salvation, then he does not know Paul.
I have a Ytube video series 'Myths in so-called Christianity' to start a conversation whilst I write a book, but most is available in the videos.
19:37 This is exactly what happened in my previous church (prior to relocating to other country due to the course of work)! They only had SEVEN songs in their rosters that they sing Sunday in Sunday out for YEARS. All of these are super simple songs, a few even biblically faulty. Lovely bunch of folks, but very resistant to change.
The so-called "sing a new song" is truly an alien thing for them 😭
I think it is surprisingly more pervasive among many congregrations, especially these days. That's why teachings grounded in Scripture is very important - as new creations we ought to worship the Lord in both spirit and *truth*.
Thank you! Quite enjoyable.
Very interesting. Thank you!
I appreciated hearing the generosity of spirit, a sort of grab bag of assorted opinions and stories from Dr. Wright. Would have loved it to hear more of the views and differences between Stott and Martin Lloyd- Jones and how the church in England has developed from the 70’s into the 21st century. I also thought the brushing by of the subject of deconstruction of the faith, some have called it, subtraction, would be a vital topic to explore.
I guess, for me , it reminds me of ordering something at a fine dining restaurant that presents a bunch of incredible small plates, none of which actually satisfies,but only leaves you wanting more. You know darn well, you aren’t stopping at Burger King somewhere to fill up afterwards either.
The Alec Motyer reference was duly noted. His books on the Psalms and Isaiah are worthy of any library.
The "academic me" boils down to who we believe, and what we believe.
I notice many questions come from America. Why are there not more from the U.K.?
Is Justin still involved with Unbelievable? I was under the impression he had stopped his unbelievable journey?
It's an old episode. Justin has a new podcast called the surprising rebirth of belief in God.
@@lukebrown8847thank you. I wondered where he had gone!
Are you guys every gonna release new episodes?
Yes I noticed that. I loved Unbelievable when it started out around 2009. I realise it’s difficult to find new people to interview but please bring back some of the original great Christian’s …
@@jenniferbate9682 when Justin left he said something about keeping an eye on the feed for new content, but they've never released new content from Tom Wright.
Hallelujah!!! I’m blessed and favored with $60,000 every week! Now I can afford anything and support the work of God and the church. For Your glory, LORD! HALLELUJAH!
Oh really? Tell me more! Always interested in hearing stories of successes.
This is what Ana Graciela Blackwelder does, she has changed my life.
After raising up to 60k trading with her, I bought a new house and car here in the US and also paid for my son’s (Oscar) surgery. Glory to God.shalom.
I know Ana Graciela Blackwelder, and I have also had success...
Absolutely! I have heard stories of people who started with little or no knowledge but managed to emerge victorious thanks to Ana Graciela Blackwelder.
The Christian Church persecuted Galileo for telling the truth about God1s creation. Why?
When earthly power and politics and personal ego become intertwined with the church, then that kind of stuff happens.
Not really persecution, and not really for simply "telling the truth." Rather, he openly mocked the pope & Catholic church, and was given house arrest. It was a political maneuver, not a religious persecution. The heliocentrism debate was more of a backdrop.
Persecution _did_ happen at the hands of the Catholic church, as well as some protestants, but Galileo is not really a good example of this. What Galileo is, is a good example of why the Church shouldn't be tied into governmental powers.
@@JosiahTheSiah And one thing that people tend to forget about Galileo is that he hadn't actually managed to prove his heliocentric hypothesis. We can prove it now, but at the time it was merely an interesting hypothesis.
@@tonyoliver2750 Right, there had existed mathematical models for heliocentrism for centuries as well, but these were far from accepted. Most people looked up and saw something that made its way across the sky in a predictable fashion day after day, year after year. It was a safe assumption that the earth was the center of all this celestial activity. After all, that Aristotle was a pretty smart guy.
Nowadays with space photography, we have quite a different shared cultural imagination-but we've only had this benefit for the past 70 odd years. So geocentrism seems laughable to us, but for most of human history, it was the safe, default assumption.
@@JosiahTheSiah I, Galileo, son of the late Vincenzo Galilei, Florentine, aged seventy years, arraigned personally before this tribunal, and kneeling before you, Most Eminent and Reverend Lord Cardinals, Inquisitors-General against heretical depravity throughout the entire Christian commonwealth, having before my eyes and touching with my hands, the Holy Gospels, swear that I have always believed, do believe, and by God's help will in the future believe, all that is held, preached, and taught by the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. But whereas -- after an injunction had been judicially intimated to me by this Holy Office, to the effect that I must altogether abandon the false opinion that the sun is the center of the world and immovable, and that the earth is not the center of the world, and moves, and that I must not hold, defend, or teach in any way whatsoever, verbally or in writing, the said false doctrine, and after it had been notified to me that the said doctrine was contrary to Holy Scripture -- I wrote and printed a book in which I discuss this new doctrine already condemned, and adduce arguments of great cogency in its favor, without presenting any solution of these, and for this reason I have been pronounced by the Holy Office to be vehemently suspected of heresy, that is to say, of having held and believed that the Sun is the center of the world and immovable, and that the earth is not the center
I based my comment on the above.
Harry potter fan club is in session. Who’s your favourite wizard 🧙. Jesus?
'Mr Wrong'. A good title. Christianity is the false teaching reported by Paul in the NT. My latest video 'Is Christianity the truth of the NT? No. Myths in so-called Christianity'.
😂 Research better, please
Are you trying to sound smart maybe?
@@pastors.nshange7660 The title of Mr Wrong is a bit smart sounding, but about 4 years ago I emailed back and forth to Tom who required me to read his book on Justification, I did and have the answers for him he said in his book he still lacks.
Truly I have found the truth of the Cross, Justification and how atonement works in the new covenant, and the truth is in the NT but Christianity is the false teaching that Paul warned of that was both bewitching and beguiling. My videos are there to be checked out, which come from teaching I call 'hereafter'.
I suspect you would give up all your comfort to become destitute for no reason? Maybe you should reflect on everything Paul gave up to become one of the most, if not the most, persecuted Christian in history.
@@dennisfakoory5426 Paul is our hero as he described the false gospel teaching whilst he was alive, he was a Jew as was Jesus and his father in the flesh was Abraham.
Paul only relates to his religion that came from Abraham, and set asidehis false believing of Moses, he was a lost sheep of Israel and returned to the flock. Paul did start Christianity he warned about its false teaching.
This can be found in my video series.