I'm looking at this stand for my home studio. I'm hoping to put it up against a wall and not have too big a gap between the back of the keyboard and the wall. How far do the backs of the base stick out relative to the back of the tabletop?
Ah, the installation instructions have all the measurements I needed. In case anyone else is curious www.k-m.de/cdn/installation_instructions/int/18810-015-55.pdf
I'm glad you found that! Probably more helpful than what I could guess. I did look at the stand when you asked and it looks like there's about a 7 inch difference between the top and the bottom on the back side. so I'd guess there would be a gap but the gap also depends on how deep the keyboard is that you are supporting.
The lowest level of the stand height is 600 mm. Do you happen to know whether this is measured 600 mm all the way above the main horizontal frame, or just below the frame, because the frame is kinda thick? Very well explained video by the way!
As I said in my main reply, my needs: - foldability (for storage for making space, or taking it with me on the bicycle - I'm Dutch) - adjustibility for sitting down / standing up - since you can convert the Omega system into a DJ-table now (and I also DJ) - expandility, which is why I love the Omega system, which the 18810 & 18820 are the base of
I have this keyboard stand.. I did not need the foldable one because this was the stand for my keyboard which weighs about 50 lbs. I was so thrilled to find there was a matching keyboard bench that matched. After I assembled both and sat down on the bench it reminded me of a piano bench. I am on the shorter side so I needed a stand that would have lower settings so my keyboard would be at the right height. I have had it for over 3 years and it still looks and works great.
I own both the standard Omega and the foldable Omega. I keep the non-folding version in our practice studio, and I take the foldable one with me on the road. I also have the second tier for both. The stands are incredible and built like tanks. They are simple to set up and break down and have plenty of adjustments if you play sitting or standing. I've had other stands through the years and none of them can compare to the K&M Omega. These are the best I've played on. I place a Yamaha CP88 on the base and stack a Yamaha Montage 6 on the second tier. The stand could hold even more weight if needed and is rock solid. They are expensive but will last for years - well worth the investment and you get what you pay for. I highly recommend the folding version.
Great info I've been using x stands with 2 and three tiers Couple keyboards and the light board for thirty years finally revisited upgrade options I like the speed of the x stand but hit and miss about stability plus when you do a gliss you'd better hold on or the board will go flying I watched your video a I made the change First job was on a bunch of flat rocks the leveling legs shined, solid as a rock Bought the second and third tier will be getting the adapter and boom Tear down was a breeze with the folding legs Not sure how much more I want to add music stand ect Don't want an octopus but so far with just the 2nd and 3rd tiers it packed up in seconds
I love K&M and definitely recommend anything that they make. I user their Spider Pro column stands, which can hold up to three tiers. They are rock solid and also allow for attacment of mcrophones and laptop/tablet holders. I'm sure that their table stands are equally well-made and desirable.
Very useful vid. I was planning to buy the pro version with the second tier and the computer stand. I play in cover bands where I use a full VST configuration, this thing seems to be the only one giving full support to my computer. Your experience helped me to choose finally. In my shopping list
Great video. Thank you. I like RUclips reviews where they SHOW you and not merely TELL you. This one shows and tells. Esoteric subject but it was precisely what I needed to know. I love RUclips. Thank you for an informative video.
I can relate to much of this video, and my experiences with a veritable alphabet soup of other stand types led me to this keyboard stand, the best one for me. I am also tall - about 6'4'' and change, so stand height has always been an issue since I started playing. The early days of my first bands were comical - crouching over a wobbly X-stand that looked like an ironing board. Later I had the idea of getting a 2-tier X-stand and only using the top tier, with a board across the lower tier to hold the set list and other bits and pieces. A few years later, when I had a bit more money, I tried an Ultimate I-stand supporting two synths, but it also felt shaky and wasn't easily height adjustable. Fast forward five years, after equally unsuccessful encounters with A-stands, V-stands and Z-stands, I eventually settled on the Quiklok Monolith, which was (and still is) an excellent stand, but extremely heavy and bulky. Because I like to switch between playing seated and standing, that also presents a problem. With the Monolith, I set the stand near the top of its height range and sat on a bar stool, which allowed me to stand up without the entire stand height suddenly becoming too low. That has been my setup ever since, but I switched to the K&M because of its lighter weight and foldability. Crazy that I was 20 years into my semi-pro keyboard playing career before I found a stand that worked for me. The number of synths that I went through in that time is another story...
The experience taught me that table-top keyboard stands are the only ones for me. They're the only ones where increasing the playing height doesn't compromise the load-bearing capacity and/or the stability of the stand. And the K&M Omega comes in a ruby red variant, which looks awesome on stage with my Nord Electro 6. 😊
I like the 18810, but the 18820 is on top of my list. As you explained, for me that € 29 is worth it. I wouldn't upgrade a 18810 to 18820 unless you really need to - things can change after all - but since I haven't bought a keyboardstand yet, the 18820 wil lbe my first. In case you wonder, before this I would put my keyboard on the floor as a child and on my half height bed as a teenager / young adult. Now I'm back into music making with a DAW and I miss using a keyboard. Exactly because I could put my midikeyboard in a closet, therefore I want the 18820 since that also can go in the closet very tightly if I need more space in this room. Still, great choice!
Awesome, thanks for the feedback on that. It's all about what works for you. If I need to get a stand again, I'll probably go for the 18820 because I do so much setup/teardown in the live application.
Okay, I came here for the stand, but I see you need subscribers, so I subscribed. Now if all viewers of this video did that... It's complete free, people!
Hallo, i am going to use a Fantom-08 on that. Which set-up / would you recommend to place the Keyboard. Should i use the max possible distance to place the Keyboard on these Black Tubes?
Indubbiamente il miglior supporto per tastiere: la tastiera non si muove di un millimetro, è ben stabilizzata. Ma onestamente dovrei avere un roadie per portarlo in giro. E' ingombrante, ogni volta per trasportarlo va smontato. Un vero incubo sinceramente. Credo sia un po' meglio il KONIG & MEYER 18950, che è richiudibile e trasportabile.
Grazie per il tuo commento. Sono d'accordo che l'altro modello è più portatile. Ho trovato un modo semplice per trasportare il mio, quindi questo modello funziona bene anche per me.
@@mikebardenpiano Well ... that sucks !!! What would you recommend ( that's not too costly and has nothing hampering the feet / legs ) ?!? Thanks for replying BTW ...
@@mikebardenpiano I hear you , but I have a pinched nerve problem right now , so I have to do everything from sitting ... i.e. lying on a lazy boy chair !!! Hence the necessary empty space underneath the gizmo , and starting to stack up layers would be too massive and unmanageable !!!
I see. Unfortunately I don't have a working knowledge of all the other stands currently available that would help for your situation. Sorry I couldn't be more help!
@Mike Barden Piano. i dont need portability and am kinda new to the piano. i have a kawai es110 i purchased last year to learn on and now i just purchased roland fp60x. both are about 54" wide and 12"-15" depth. kawai is 30lb and roland about 45lb. do you think this rack would hold both securely if i get the 2 tier option... im worried that the left and right keyboard hang off will make it unstable.. i sit while playing so low center of gravity should help a bit im guessing.... just need some re-assurance on that left, right wobble i worry about.. i dont think my fortissimo would be so aggressive my piano's just crash into pieces but you never know..
Sorry, I have no experience with the two tier option so unfortunately I can't say about that specifically. However based on the construction quality I've seen with my stand and the attachments my guess would be that they would totally support that. They are built like a tank. Sorry I couldn't give more help with that question.
@mikebardenpiano no problem. Thank you for the speedy response i ended up ordering the apex spider pro, i believe the name was. Expensive for me but some folks told me it will handle my needs with no problem. I just hope i dont have to send back because it doesnt. I should do a review if it does though. Im sure plenty of folks have or will have the same question.
I hope this helps you in your search for the best keyboard stand. I know this is the one for me! What are the needs you have in a keyboard stand?
I'm looking at this stand for my home studio. I'm hoping to put it up against a wall and not have too big a gap between the back of the keyboard and the wall. How far do the backs of the base stick out relative to the back of the tabletop?
Ah, the installation instructions have all the measurements I needed. In case anyone else is curious www.k-m.de/cdn/installation_instructions/int/18810-015-55.pdf
I'm glad you found that! Probably more helpful than what I could guess. I did look at the stand when you asked and it looks like there's about a 7 inch difference between the top and the bottom on the back side. so I'd guess there would be a gap but the gap also depends on how deep the keyboard is that you are supporting.
The lowest level of the stand height is 600 mm. Do you happen to know whether this is measured 600 mm all the way above the main horizontal frame, or just below the frame, because the frame is kinda thick? Very well explained video by the way!
As I said in my main reply, my needs:
- foldability (for storage for making space, or taking it with me on the bicycle - I'm Dutch)
- adjustibility for sitting down / standing up - since you can convert the Omega system into a DJ-table now (and I also DJ)
- expandility, which is why I love the Omega system, which the 18810 & 18820 are the base of
It’s hard to find real-world examples of the stands I’m researching, thanks for making this video, it was really helpful.
thanks for the video, you'd think K&M could make a 5 minute video explaining their products, so glad you took the time to do this.
Glad it was helpful!
You just saved back-and-forth dialogue with my sales rep.
Thank you.
great!
Extremely beneficial comment and great video! Respect and thanks a lot.
Super helpful. I’m using a spider pro and will have trouble finding anything that sets up and tears down more quickly.
Thanks for this good advice ! I will get the 18820 with option for a 2nd keyboard
I have this keyboard stand.. I did not need the foldable one because this was the stand for my keyboard which weighs about 50 lbs. I was so thrilled to find there was a matching keyboard bench that matched. After I assembled both and sat down on the bench it reminded me of a piano bench. I am on the shorter side so I needed a stand that would have lower settings so my keyboard would be at the right height. I have had it for over 3 years and it still looks and works great.
I absolutly agreeeee. That's Stand may be one of de very best and not so expensive
I own both the standard Omega and the foldable Omega. I keep the non-folding version in our practice studio, and I take the foldable one with me on the road. I also have the second tier for both. The stands are incredible and built like tanks. They are simple to set up and break down and have plenty of adjustments if you play sitting or standing. I've had other stands through the years and none of them can compare to the K&M Omega. These are the best I've played on. I place a Yamaha CP88 on the base and stack a Yamaha Montage 6 on the second tier. The stand could hold even more weight if needed and is rock solid. They are expensive but will last for years - well worth the investment and you get what you pay for. I highly recommend the folding version.
Great to hear! Thanks for the additional information!
Great info I've been using x stands with 2 and three tiers
Couple keyboards and the light board for thirty years finally revisited upgrade options I like the speed of the x stand but hit and miss about stability plus when you do a gliss you'd better hold on or the board will go flying
I watched your video a I made the change
First job was on a bunch of flat rocks the leveling legs shined, solid as a rock
Bought the second and third tier will be getting the adapter and boom
Tear down was a breeze with the folding legs
Not sure how much more I want to add music stand ect
Don't want an octopus but so far with just the 2nd and 3rd tiers it packed up in seconds
Awesome!
Doing some stand shipping atm, very helpful video tysm!!
Glad it helped!
I love K&M and definitely recommend anything that they make. I user their Spider Pro column stands, which can hold up to three tiers. They are rock solid and also allow for attacment of mcrophones and laptop/tablet holders. I'm sure that their table stands are equally well-made and desirable.
Dude, nothing to say more than, i just love you.
Aw, thank you!
Very useful vid. I was planning to buy the pro version with the second tier and the computer stand. I play in cover bands where I use a full VST configuration, this thing seems to be the only one giving full support to my computer. Your experience helped me to choose finally. In my shopping list
Thanks for this. I've been using scissor stands for decades. I'm not a fan of column stands. You answered every question I would have had. Thanks.
Great to hear, thanks for letting me know!
Great video. Thank you. I like RUclips reviews where they SHOW you and not merely TELL you. This one shows and tells. Esoteric subject but it was precisely what I needed to know. I love RUclips. Thank you for an informative video.
Thank you for the feedback!
Key Mike - Nice video on the K&M 18810 Omega stand. What attachments do you use to hold your tablet and microphone to the stand?
Great review Mike. I play a Roland RD88 which is not very wide. Can you adjust the width of the stand so the keyboard sits solid on the rubber?
Thanks for the vid ! that was very helpfull !
You're welcome, glad it helped!
I can relate to much of this video, and my experiences with a veritable alphabet soup of other stand types led me to this keyboard stand, the best one for me. I am also tall - about 6'4'' and change, so stand height has always been an issue since I started playing. The early days of my first bands were comical - crouching over a wobbly X-stand that looked like an ironing board. Later I had the idea of getting a 2-tier X-stand and only using the top tier, with a board across the lower tier to hold the set list and other bits and pieces.
A few years later, when I had a bit more money, I tried an Ultimate I-stand supporting two synths, but it also felt shaky and wasn't easily height adjustable. Fast forward five years, after equally unsuccessful encounters with A-stands, V-stands and Z-stands, I eventually settled on the Quiklok Monolith, which was (and still is) an excellent stand, but extremely heavy and bulky.
Because I like to switch between playing seated and standing, that also presents a problem. With the Monolith, I set the stand near the top of its height range and sat on a bar stool, which allowed me to stand up without the entire stand height suddenly becoming too low. That has been my setup ever since, but I switched to the K&M because of its lighter weight and foldability.
Crazy that I was 20 years into my semi-pro keyboard playing career before I found a stand that worked for me. The number of synths that I went through in that time is another story...
The experience taught me that table-top keyboard stands are the only ones for me. They're the only ones where increasing the playing height doesn't compromise the load-bearing capacity and/or the stability of the stand. And the K&M Omega comes in a ruby red variant, which looks awesome on stage with my Nord Electro 6. 😊
🤠 K&M worth the premium over the Gravity KSTS01B?
I like the 18810, but the 18820 is on top of my list. As you explained, for me that € 29 is worth it. I wouldn't upgrade a 18810 to 18820 unless you really need to - things can change after all - but since I haven't bought a keyboardstand yet, the 18820 wil lbe my first. In case you wonder, before this I would put my keyboard on the floor as a child and on my half height bed as a teenager / young adult. Now I'm back into music making with a DAW and I miss using a keyboard. Exactly because I could put my midikeyboard in a closet, therefore I want the 18820 since that also can go in the closet very tightly if I need more space in this room. Still, great choice!
Awesome, thanks for the feedback on that. It's all about what works for you. If I need to get a stand again, I'll probably go for the 18820 because I do so much setup/teardown in the live application.
Okay, I came here for the stand, but I see you need subscribers, so I subscribed. Now if all viewers of this video did that... It's complete free, people!
Thanks for the plug Steven! I appreciate it.
do you know if this keyboard stand supports wheel casters?
Loving the stability and functionality- priced less than the Gibraltar. X stands simply not stable enough- esp if you are stacking!
Great video! Very helpful! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
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thanks for the feedback!
Thank you!!!
thanks! May I ask which model of tablet holder do you use? Best, Carlos
I use an iKlip. It works great!
I'm 6'5" - I know you're about 6 feet based on your video. Do you have the height of this stand max'd out, or is there more room to raise it?
I just checked and it is at the top level available
Hallo, i am going to use a Fantom-08 on that. Which set-up / would you recommend to place the Keyboard. Should i use the max possible distance to place the Keyboard on these Black Tubes?
For that size of a keyboard I'd want to make the base as wide as possible.
Can you confirm the accessories part number for the iPad and the microphone, please?
KM18817 is the Universal Holder for each piece, KM18814 is the Adaptor, the Tablet holder is IK Multimedia iKlip, Mic Boom Arm is K&M 21140
@@mikebardenpiano thanks.
can you add wheels to the omega?
Indubbiamente il miglior supporto per tastiere: la tastiera non si muove di un millimetro, è ben stabilizzata. Ma onestamente dovrei avere un roadie per portarlo in giro. E' ingombrante, ogni volta per trasportarlo va smontato. Un vero incubo sinceramente. Credo sia un po' meglio il KONIG & MEYER 18950, che è richiudibile e trasportabile.
Grazie per il tuo commento. Sono d'accordo che l'altro modello è più portatile. Ho trovato un modo semplice per trasportare il mio, quindi questo modello funziona bene anche per me.
Hello !!!
I wonder if one can tilt the inclination on this stand ,as it doesn't look like one can !?!
Not with this one, no.
@@mikebardenpiano
Well ... that sucks !!!
What would you recommend ( that's not too costly and has nothing hampering the feet / legs ) ?!?
Thanks for replying BTW ...
@@TheYamaduta If you get the K&M 18811 Stacker 2nd Tier with this stand, you would be able to incline the 2nd teir.
@@mikebardenpiano
I hear you , but I have a pinched nerve problem right now , so I have to do everything from sitting ... i.e. lying on a lazy boy chair !!!
Hence the necessary empty space underneath the gizmo , and starting to stack up layers would be too massive and unmanageable !!!
I see. Unfortunately I don't have a working knowledge of all the other stands currently available that would help for your situation. Sorry I couldn't be more help!
The 18820 is a better because it fol.... Oh I just got to that part in your video do'h
Haha yes. I also wish I knew that before I bought the 18820. lol
The X stands SUCK. Where do you even put your legs??
Well yes, exactly
@Mike Barden Piano. i dont need portability and am kinda new to the piano. i have a kawai es110 i purchased last year to learn on and now i just purchased roland fp60x. both are about 54" wide and 12"-15" depth. kawai is 30lb and roland about 45lb. do you think this rack would hold both securely if i get the 2 tier option... im worried that the left and right keyboard hang off will make it unstable.. i sit while playing so low center of gravity should help a bit im guessing.... just need some re-assurance on that left, right wobble i worry about.. i dont think my fortissimo would be so aggressive my piano's just crash into pieces but you never know..
Sorry, I have no experience with the two tier option so unfortunately I can't say about that specifically. However based on the construction quality I've seen with my stand and the attachments my guess would be that they would totally support that. They are built like a tank. Sorry I couldn't give more help with that question.
@mikebardenpiano no problem. Thank you for the speedy response i ended up ordering the apex spider pro, i believe the name was. Expensive for me but some folks told me it will handle my needs with no problem. I just hope i dont have to send back because it doesnt. I should do a review if it does though. Im sure plenty of folks have or will have the same question.