Hey Bill Nye, 'Let's Save Planet Earth before We Move to Mars'
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As the public face of science for so many people, Bill Nye frequently encounters people who are eager to explore Mars and establish a human population on the Red Planet. Big Think fan Sam Whitehead wants to know what explains this enthusiasm? We are by our nature explorers, says Nye. Human history is the history of expanding beyond known boarders in search of something else. But our usual enthusiasm for terrestrial adventure does not automatically translate to a martian expedition.
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BILL NYE:
Bill Nye, scientist, engineer, comedian, author, and inventor, is a man with a mission: to help foster a scientifically literate society, to help people everywhere understand and appreciate the science that makes our world work. Making science entertaining and accessible is something Bill has been doing most of his life.
In Seattle Nye began to combine his love of science with his flair for comedy, when he won the Steve Martin look-alike contest and developed dual careers as an engineer by day and a stand-up comic by night. Nye then quit his day engineering day job and made the transition to a night job as a comedy writer and performer on Seattle’s home-grown ensemble comedy show “Almost Live.” This is where “Bill Nye the Science Guy®” was born. The show appeared before Saturday Night Live and later on Comedy Central, originating at KING-TV, Seattle’s NBC affiliate.
While working on the Science Guy show, Nye won seven national Emmy Awards for writing, performing, and producing. The show won 18 Emmys in five years. In between creating the shows, he wrote five children’s books about science, including his latest title, “Bill Nye’s Great Big Book of Tiny Germs.”
Nye is the host of three currently-running television series. “The 100 Greatest Discoveries” airs on the Science Channel. “The Eyes of Nye” airs on PBS stations across the country.
Bill’s latest project is hosting a show on Planet Green called “Stuff Happens.” It’s about environmentally responsible choices that consumers can make as they go about their day and their shopping. Also, you’ll see Nye in his good-natured rivalry with his neighbor Ed Begley. They compete to see who can save the most energy and produce the smallest carbon footprint. Nye has 4,000 watts of solar power and a solar-boosted hot water system. There’s also the low water use garden and underground watering system. It’s fun for him; he’s an engineer with an energy conservation hobby.
Nye is currently the Executive Director of The Planetary Society, the world’s largest space interest organization.
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TRANSCRIPT:
Sam: Hi Bill. My name is Sam. My question for you is why are we trying to live on Mars and re-create Earth there by making an atmosphere and soil and water we can drink and such? Why can't we take those ideas, that motivation and direct it at our own planet that we clearly need the help with? Why is it easier to start fresh on another planet than to get people talking about our own?
Bill Nye: Sam. Sam, you are my man. Sam, you're thinking as I do. I meet a lot of people. I am the CEO of The Planetary Society. We advanced space science and exploration. I encourage you to join. And as I say about The Planetary Society, we are not crazy. You meet a lot of people. I meet a lot of people who want to go to Mars and make it like Earth, just as the very idea that you're questioning. And I think people, first of all, just don't grasp the scale of it. It's a planet. It's a whole planet. It's not a wetland that you can reclaim and build a parking garage on top of, it's a whole planet. Furthermore, this planet where you and I are from is perfectly suited to us. We, our ancestors and their ancestors and so on grew up here tuned to these environments, to these climates that we have here on earth. And so people want to go to Mars in the spirit of adventure. Now, as you may infer from my accent I'm from the United States and a lot of my ancestors came here from Denmark and Europe and they set up shop in what the colony of Massachusetts and then they went all the way across North America through Wyoming, the state of Wyoming and now to the West Coast to Washington state and California. And they did that in this great tradition of a pioneering spirit is keep going, keep expanding, keep spreading out and humankind has done that. Everybody is from Africa. Our ancestors are all from the continent of A...
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Hey all, I'm the guy from the video. I just wanted to clarify (after seeing some comments) that I don't want to cancel any missions to Mars, be them for exploration or for some sort of settlement. My issue is with our own messed up planet. We are getting caught up in the excitement of colonizing another planet and we're directing a lot of ideas, technology, money, etc to a barren planet. I'd like to see more enthusiasm directed at our own. Just think, if engineers and scientists and dreamers can come up with many ways to make Mars habitable, why can't we use some of those same ideas, money, technology, etc, to fix the problems we've caused here on Earth. We don't even have to start from scratch! We have oceans, rivers, forests, oxygen, soil, and everything else we need to survive, so why not dedicate some of this time and money into making it a better place? I don't care if you don't believe in climate change (well, I kind of do), I'm sure you can at least agree that we have some issues here - greenhouse gases, pollution, deforestation, fast rate of animal extinctions, overpopulation, hunger, etc. Focusing the attention on starting fresh on Mars seems like giving up. Yes, the future of our species relies on moving away from Earth, but we won't need that for quite some time. Yes, exploration is a great thing. Yes, the search for life outside of Earth is an exciting adventure. Yes, we should keep funding our space programs to keep us discovering more about the universe and ourselves. Yes, we need to be able to monitor threats to our own planet (large clumps of rock/ice hurtling toward us for example). I do not deny our involvement in any of those things, and more! BUT we cant just give up on our own Spaceship Earth when we know we have problems that can easily be fixed if we all just learned to get along and invest in our future! Without a healthy planet to sustain us there will be no getting to Mars anyway. So before I ask us all to hold hands and sing Kumbaya, just stop for a minute and look around before you look up. I love you all. Thank you.
+Sam Whitehead have you considered going vegan? Animal agriculture is one of the leading causes of climate change.
+Ariel Marazzie According to a couple of reputable sources I found online, the animal agriculture industry accounts for like 6% of total greenhouse gas emissions in the United States. Compared to fossil fuels that account for 80% of greenhouse gas emissions. And apparently beef in particular is the biggest part of that because of the resources required in the process of... cow growing. Not to say that animal agriculture isn't at all a problem because it's smaller, but you might want to paint a clearer picture when you say "Animal agriculture is one of the leading causes of climate change." Just to be realistic ya know what I mean?
+Ariel Marazzie I've been a vegetarian for five years and have considered going vegan.
Sam Whitehead i highly recommended the doc conspiracy on Netflix, if you haven't seen it yet. the dairy industry is just as cruel as the meat industry and going fully plant based will be an easy switch thats better for your health.
K0sm1cKid, SWIMlovesyou www.new-harvest.org/the_world_s_leading_driver_of_climate_change_animal_agriculture
Regardless of whether animal agriculture is responsible for 14.5% of GHGs or 51%, it is still a primary driver of climate change. But almost even more important, it is the leading cause of deforestation, desertification, ocean dead-zones, species extinction, habitat destruction, water use, water pollution, top soil erosion, etc. The fact that the entire environmental movement is focused on fossil fuels and not animal agriculture is to the detriment of true sustainability. A global shift to a vegan lifestyle will do more to repair the damage done to the earth than a global abandonment of fossil fuels. Fossil fuels absolutely must be addressed and movement towards renewable energy is essential.
Water resources will be one of the most important issues of the 21st-century and animal agriculture uses up a tremendous amount of water. For this reason alone, drastically cutting back and eventually eliminating animals agriculture is a worthwhile goal.
"THERE IS NO AIR! There is no air."
LMAO
+Jacob D Wunsch LOL!
+Jacob D Wunsch and why is that funny?
+Efe Ozata I think he's laughing at all the people that are so gung ho to go to Mars to terraform the planet. It's a pretty ludicrous idea when you really consider the undertaking. We need to preserve the planet we have, which is teeming with life (although not as much as before humans started killing everything) and already has exactly what we need to THRIVE, not try to create a new one! I'm glad to hear a scientist who actually speaks out about this as Bill does here, b/c I always have these thoughts when I hear people talking about colonizing Mars. Do you know what has happened to Mt. Everest since commercial guides started leading expeditions to the summit every year several decades ago? The place is LITTERED w/ discarded oxygen canisters, dead bodies, damaged and discarded equipment, and trash. There are actually expedition leaders and experienced climbers who do Everest expeditions for the *sole purpose of getting our garbage down from the mountain*!! And people think they can just hop on a rocket and go terraform a planet, taking resources away from THIS planet to get there, and colonize the place. So, THAT'S what's so funny.
Donna Brooks wow thanks. thats a long explanation. I look at mars terraforming like a very interesting scientific experiment. human like to discover. i dont think we go to mars because earth isnt enough and that we need to start consuming another planet or that we need to make the earth right first to have the right to go to mars. we go there because we want to see if we can do it, that if we can give a life to a lifeless planet and make it habitable. thats the eventuality of human race, we will probably even travel out of our solar system when the time comes. so I dont think its about human being greedy and not self sustaining but human being curious.
+Efe Ozata I think you missed my point. So tell me, how are we going to provide enough oxygen for humans to live on Mars? If we can BARELY live on our own planet, what makes you think we have the capacity to do so on another planet? You are basically saying "we" want to go to Mars to see if we can do it. That's why people climb mountains. That's why Sherpas die carrying equipment and setting up ropes and ladders for rich tourists to use to get to the top. That's why people enter an altitude known as the "death zone", above which, only one extremely lucky man has ever survived getting caught overnight and was rescued, at great risk to others. Another man was found still alive, but people kept walking past him b/c there was a long line of people who were in a hurry to get to the top and start the descent, b/c more people die on the descent and it's important for them to get back to Camp 4 before dark. He froze to death on the mountain, close to an exposed pair of legs wearing green boots. People want to explore, to take on challenges, and when they do, they can become obsessed with their dream and lose good judgement and other people often pay the price. The exorbitant cost of terraforming Mars could fund the restoration and preservation of every ecosystem that sustains life right here on earth, AND could prevent the extinction of countless species being wiped out by human encroachment and activities. Those places will suffer as we channel our energies and money into playing Dr. Frankenstein w/ a dead planet while letting our own spectacular and unique planet die. Watch the documentary, "The Man Who Skied Down Everest." Six sherpas died so he could do his ego-gratifying stunt. So I don't think much of doing something just to see if you can do it. It's often done on the backs of the poor, either literally or figuratively, in terms of resources taken from them to fuel our insatiable ego. Would you let me adopt a child if I said I wanted to prove to myself that I could raise a child?? No. Because it's about the child, not about me. We know more about the surface of Mars than we do about our own oceans or about the subterranean world of caves, both of which we have hardly explored b/c it's so DANGEROUS and COSTLY to do so!! And if people want to practice terraforming, why not do it on a much more accessible celestial body, like the moon or even an asteroid? While still insanely expensive to colonize the moon, it would be cheaper than doing so on Mars. And don't give me that, "Mars has water!" argument. You can live for days w/o water, but only minutes w/o oxygen!! And speaking of water, we had better start terraforming Earth b/c we lose more land to desertification every year b/c we have altered the ecosystems that used to keep deserts in check.
"The planet is fine. The people are fucked."
I couldn't agree more.
But the human people control the future of this planet and it's inevitable repeat inevitable that they will eventually destroy it. It's not if but when. Look up the Second law of thermodynamics. Therefore in order to preserve the future survival of our species WE MUST find another planet to escape to.
+Sawyer Giffin save the bees save the trees, save the whales saves those snails xD
You're a bad virus
+meandmymouth I think we will all be dead from something else before entropy takes us to the grave.
Humans won't destroy the Earth, we'll make it unlivable for humans and the planet will go on being a rock.
"Put a man on Mars... How about putting a homeless man in an apartment."
-David Cross
ultrviolencemusic makes a lot of sense. That’ll be too much like right.
Yes @M O let’s look after each other before doing something expensive and moronic. I can’t believe no one pointed out your heartless comment for a whole year! Stagnate scientifically? Did you watch the vid?
@M O Tbh, you're such a complete moron for having such an idea. Mars is not our home by nature. With our current best technology, it takes us 7 months to arrive Mars. Do you know what it would take to transport humans to mars on a 7 months trip? We don't just have what it takes to colonise Mars. How about the low gravity and harsh weather? Every attemp at colonising mars would be a complete waste of energy and money. Instead of wasting those energy and money, why don't we just use it to better our natural home which is earth? Lastly, those making an attempt at colonising mars aren't even doing it for the good of humanity but for profit. If it was for the good of humanity, they should start from here. They don't need to colonise Mars to help humanity.
@M O i support how you said we can do both simultaneously - colonising Mars and helping the poor on earth. The way you put this in your original comment was kind of disrespectful IMO
Again, how is colonising Mars going to make us advance scientifically? What discoveries do you think could be made on Mars that couldn't be made on earth? How gravity works? Other types of Invisible radiations? other kinds of life form? Or other forms of energy? I would like to hear how you think not colonising Mars could make us stagnant scientifically.
Invest in agriculture and explore earth? how about fix your hunting and gathering skill first?
People still trying to hang on to this idea that Bill Nye is not educated in hard science. Without question he has more expertise on these subjects than more than 90% of the general population, but you are allowed to think that Sarah Palin is more of a scientist. Thankfully that says enough about you to discredit pretty much every opinion you have anyway.
Problem is that he's smart enough to put some serious spin and disinformation out there for the sheep to gobble up. Never mind that Mars would need a century or more terraforming before it is viable, we'd need some serious space ships, at which point why limit ourselves to just Mars?
Jason Bristol That is his point with Mars too. The obstacles at this point are great enough that going there for exploration and scientific reasons can be justifies, but the fantasy of terraforming mars for human habitation is pretty much not going to happen.
As far as the travel thing goes, I think making the trip significantly shortly is definitely doable, and something that we are pursuing, but even if we can get there in a shorter time, stopping there is really our only option, unless we plan on living on a moon of jupiter or something. Extra-solar travel is even more far fetched until we come up with warp drives of some sort, which even to the most fanciful physicist is unrealistic in probably the next 500+ years, which is really the time frame we need to care about when it comes to Earth.
+Jason Bristol I haven't seen him put out any disinformation...
+Polygeekism Exactly. Spot on with the last sentence.
+C.S. Ewens he's more like a mechanic telling you need to replace a slightly worn part because the car might completely break down if you don't
I agree with Bill. Let's get our own house in order before going out to other houses, so to speak.
Bill Nye's best answer to a question in a while. Beautifully said and I was hooked throughout all of it.
What an excellent question!! This was one of my favorites from Bill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree more. Mars is a dead rock.
Genuine question. Why don't we populate antarctica before mars...?
Good point. Or why don't we explore the oceans. We've only explored about 5% of the oceans. We still got a whole planet to explore.
"You know what I love most about Mars? They still dream. We gave up. They're an entire culture dedicated to a common goal, working together as one to turn a lifeless rock into a garden. We had a garden and we paved it."
Great talk! Bill Nye is amazing!
I think it’s human nature to not be content with what we have but always be searching for more.
Creating a colony on Mars should NEVER be placed in competition with/or blamed for the lack of investment in making Earth better.
There are thousands of reasons why, but I will mention some of the most obvious ones.
1) Earth has 7.5 billion people; with a great number that just can't get along very well. On Mars, people WILL get along, or die due to lack of cooperation.
2) Unlike on Earth, there are no borders on Mars. There are no states, nor continents. On Mars, there is no such thing as "Americans, Russians, Chinese or Australians. People will be all seen as equal humans from the same home: Earth.
3) Dozens of billions of $ get poured into helping developing nations and our world is better off than ever before. People live better, are better educated, live longer, have more rights, and kill each other less today than at any point in history. Unfortunately, war, poverty and corruption will always happen , it's in our very DNA to fight sometimes, but the scopes, ways and durations in which we fight are more limited than ever.
Thanks to technology, poverty is on the decline and with the rise in education, so is corruption as people begin to fight for more fairness and transparency from both government and corporations.
4) changing a planet's climate is hard. Very hard. That is especially true when you are trying to reverse greenhouse gas emissions while the Earth's population keeps growing and doing so requires us to impose severe restrictions and changes in the very way we live.
On Mars, the inverse needs to happen. We would need to pump as much greenhouse gas into the atmosphere as possible so that we could warm up the planet, and producing greenhouse gases is something much easier to do than producing one at all!
5) expanding human presence throughout the universe is something that will inevitably have to happen if humans hope to preserve their mere existence from man a made and natural disasters. Mars is just one stepping stone in that direction, but it is a crucial stepping stone that should not be skipped.
The amount of stuff we will learn by going to Mars will help us look after Earth
+Reckless Nova Just like how we discovered Earth when we went to the moon.
I really like the way Bill talk. It shows so much passion in his explanation.
This is why I'm becoming an environmental engineer.
Can we please stop saying we are saving the planet? The planet is fine, it will always be fine regardless of how much harm we do. The Earth has been here for billions of years and has survived major events.
What we need to save is our own skin. Period.
Why don't we just do both?
+Atomic That's the reason why I can't take people with this "save the earth first"-argument seriously. Everybody on this planet can work on something different, and both space exploration and helping the environment are important. But they are also both possible at the same time, and extremely cheap compared to stuff like military.
+SaHaRaSquad oh hell yeah
@@SaHaRaSquad You're not making any sense, dude...
@@RadioactiveSand When you can't understand my comment after trying for 3 years I can't help you.
@@SaHaRaSquad Well I could say the same to you. You had three years to figure out the contradiction of doing something "after" while doing it "at the same time"; but apparently there was no luck.
“We live in a closed system.” - Bill Nye
“We can only orbit within Earth’s atmosphere” - NASA
“The Earth is photoshopped, because it has to be.” -NASA
hey Bill Nye I was wondering if you could do a video of thorium fluoride reactors. I have done my own research on the subject with mixed reviews. some of the research I've gathered says it has some great potential in energy saying it has a 95% yield over traditional reactors your thoughts.
I highly recommend checking out thunderf00t's video on the subject.
I think we can do both!
+Bugzy's Evil Deeds Yeah I think so.
I agree with you Sam!
As many have surely said already, why not both? No doubt technology developed to help us live on other worlds could be used here to benefit Earth.
2:30 Now I'm no grammar nazi and I say it all the time but Bill Nye said 'Nother 😂
Great discoveries come from the furthest edges of knowledge.
I'd be interested to hear Bills opinion on the environmental sustainability of animal agriculture with our growing population.
#1 To move to Mars we would need closed system human habitation.
#2 If we used closed system habitation here on Earth we would likely start to repair the problems we are having with the environment.
#3 If we think up a way that we would all like to live when we start to colonize space and then work backwards.We create an end goal for our current situation.
just my humble opinion.
2:32
"A whole nother"
Come on Bill you know better
How dare Bill use an accepted colloquialism?
How are we supposed to get the technological proficiency to solve anything without some serious exploration projects?
+true reality And my point is that that point is actually nonsensical.
There is only one science. We really never got anywhere just by sitting on butts. Talking about sustainable environments, what better laboratory could we even imagine than Mars, where we can start from scratch again and again. Only effing desert loving romantics are to oppose this goal of utmost importance.
+true reality
Mars colonisation would require solar panels and atmosphere engineering, which could be used to solve the problems of climate change.
+ColegaBill You are skewing science to your agenda.
true reality
True, but my points stands that developing new technology and achieving great things inspires people and gives us new tools to fix our problems, learning to efficiently grow plants in building from Mars could solve world-wide hunger for example, we could solve every problem on earth if we wanted to, the issue is that those in power don't.
Don't put all your eggs into one basket.
Mars isn't a basket.
What you are suggesting is taking an egg from the basket, and placing it in a trash can.
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The tech pursued and perfected to allow humans to survive off this planet can certainly help us here.
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I don't have any degree in space engineering, but the equation that I always have in my head is as it follows; 1- Better up human welfare, so we can learn to respect and take care of our home.
2- Once we can solve our own misery, aim for a lunar base to run every single experiment that can help us to change the Martian atmosphere, so when we plan to send future astronauts, they can run less risk of dying on arrival.
3- Once we can build a new human colonies in Mars, let's visit each other very often, so we can be the best neighbors in this solar system.
You'll never know if one of your future grand, grand, grand, kids marries a Martian girl, then your family tree will expand beyond earth.
If your ever feeling sad then just remember that you may be on the only planet in the universe that has life on it. That's lucky if you ask me.
Another brilliant idea Bill ..
Bill, how long do you think it would be before we could colonize other planets? Also, do you think we as a species will have to resort to that and become the first intelligent multi-planet species (to our knowledge) before we figure out the over population issue?
I feel the question of "lets save earth first" vs "Let's go to mars" is a near false dichotomy, and its quite likely to be very difficult to be successful with the former if we don't do the latter. Mainly since the sheer scale of our drain on the Earth's Ecology and resources are such that even though the first world birth rates are dropping (and the third world birth rate growing) we're still having an accelerating effect on the world. Its possible that in order to preserve Earth, we may have to leave it behind.
I don't think the reason to colonize mars is to ditch Earth but to continue advancing and learning.. We might be close scientifically, but I don't think Humanity is ready to leave Earth. We're totally reckless with how we treat our planet and our people. We have so much maturing to do as a species. A quote I think is good for this topic: "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." -Edward Abbey
+Lemur Licker I don't think it's a radical idea to want to fix Earth first before colonizing another planet. It's not as if we have to fix absolutely all problems, but energy, food, shelter, all of these are factors we have not yet dealt with on a grander scale involving so many billions of people. And the fact that we still have people denying climate change is worrisome. That is not a seed we should be planting if we are to expand our civilization to other worlds.
And the better way is to make efforts in both directions.....in making the planet greener and prosperous plus exploring other planets BUT colonising them is just way too beyond our technology. However, we might colonise other planets in the future with super advanced techno.
This is a good one, it takes agreement and teamwork to meet any goal like that (stationing a group on any other planet).
Earth is not perfect for us we are perfect for the earth. Its very different Bill. Love you!
Look past conservation laws, positive time directionality, time constant, infinity negates to zero, and mass gravity relations.
I would love to see colonization of mars. Though terraforming is kinda rediculouse.
but building a comprehensive infrastructure on mars may not be impossible.
I feel like Bill's answer is completely missing the argument. The objection is "X sounds nice, but before we try it we must first bring Y into order." As in: "Giving women the right to vote is sure great, but we can get to that after no child on Earth has to go to bed hungry anymore. Clearly starving children are a more urgent crisis to address. One is a First World luxury problem that we can easily postpone, the other is matter of survival!"
It shouldn't be too hard to discover the two glaring problems of that argument are:
1.) The criterion to meet is not only arbitrary, but often unrealistic or even impossible.
2.) There is no reason to assume that holding back the solution for one problem will speed up the solution for the problem.
Neil deGrasse Tyson replies to this question in a much better way. He points out how innovations have frequently provided completely answers in unexpected and unintended areas. Military and Space technologies are now common itemy in every kitchen, office, hospital, not only making life tremendously easier, but actually saving lives every day.
*That's* a response that can convince a doubter.
My sentiments exactly. Well said.
People have different passions and we shouldn't prioritize one endeavor, excluding all others. Anything that's scientific and non harmful is worth pursuing. There are much more useless/wasteful areas we could take money from to help the earth than thwarting space programs. *Cough* war budgets *cough*
Love ya Bill.
I love how he just rambles away, saying interesting stuff though.
That's Bill Nye for you..
I agree to a certain extent, but my from my experience in observing the real world, looking at history and through simulations (such as the video game Civilization) the way to make progress fastest is by pushing the boundaries. We didn't make sure everyone had a black and white TV before coming up with colour ones. We didn't We didn't make sure everyone had a basic computer before building better ones.
Push the boundaries in science and the worst stuff gets to be smaller and smaller issues. Here in England, things are pretty good. Sure, there are still rich people and poor people but 86% of us have internet access at home. 96% have TVs, and the 4% literally just don't want TVs. People have more opportunities and nice stuff than they did 100 years ago, and it wasn't really because people cared more about them (I do understand the labour and rights movements, but it merely propelled what I'm saying).
The folks at the bottom get give the scraps that the people at the top don't want, in this case that's still flat screen TVs and the previous generation of iPhones. That doesn't mean we shouldn't care at all about the villages without wells, but rather put even more focus on the bigger projects. The homes of tomorrow! The cars of tomorrow! The planets of tomorrow!
We're going to need to venture out at some point, and my time playing Civilization for over 1000 hours has shown to me that the people who spend to much time trying to get everything equal are left in the dust.
+Liam Pouncy You nailed that. I like to think that exploration leads to innovation. Necessity is the mother of innovation; and what better place to find answers to problems than the unknown. Having a base on Mars and working to make it a livable environment can only help with the improvement of technology and experience in regards to our environmental issues here on Earth. If people want to colonize Mars I say we let them, and it isn't like we are going to stop a curious human from exploring if we wanted to. :P
Learning how to survive on other planet could help us survive on a devasted earth.
okay Bill seen as you didn’t say it i have to lol “dare I say it” ..”change the world!” 🤗 I got your back Bill
we need a segment with Sarah Palin
+Fla-Fla-Flo-Hi *NO.*
Turn a desert green See if its possible first. Pine tree's would be best to start with. In the United States we could start from Texas move out west New Mexico is pretty empty a lot of tree's could be planted. Then used water could water the land. Instead of just dumping it into the sea.
Sure we have problems here on earth. But we always had problems and always will have problems. We can't wait for a time where we have none because this time won't come.
I'm all for saving our planet (and the people on it of course) but I'm also for saving our whole species and colonizing mars is a big step towards making sure that our species survives. There are just so many benefits to a multi-planetary species that its urgent to be one.
And besides, its not like we are throwing all our money at getting to mars and just neglecting our planet (well, we are but not because of mars). The annual budget of NASA is about 0.5% (2016) to 1% of the federal budget. There has been a newly sparked motivation in astronomy and space in the recent years (at least from my perspective) and rightfully so it gets some needed attention.
That time won't definitely come thinking like that.
Fixing Earth's problems doesn't mean getting rid of every single possible bad moment. It means learning to coexist. It means achieving piece and finding a sensible way to organize our resources. If we don't manage to do that on Earth, I don't think we deserve to go anywhere else. I'd rather live good than forever. I'd prefer that our specie go extinct than see humanity turn into a toxic virus spreading all around.
I totally agree about the Earth as first priority, but colonizing Mars for exploration, etc. is a whole separate and also very important issue!
+Oborowatabinost exploration yes, but as an alternative home for humans, that is the part that he has consistently had reservations about. Terraforming is something that will be extremely difficult until a lot of sciences we have advance much further than we are, most specifically energy and fast space travel.
No its not. spoiler. ..you'll all be dead by then
+Curious Alien I knew it ! Thanks for the info, Alien ! Oh and under us... How much does immortality cost ?
Mohammad ali oo Your soul
Curious Alien Fuck. But this doesn't even make very much sense for me. Something else ?
Sam.....SAM!..........sam......SAAAM!!.............my man!
YES. Go Bill.
What's Palin think? I hear she can see pretty good!
Don't plant all the seeds in once place.. Spread them!!!!!
I agree with bill nye and the questioner that we should "save" our planet first (I use quotation because there's nothing broken on the Earth YET and we are really just trying to prevent catastrophy) however, traveling to mars would also contribute to saving the Earth since part of the problem on Earth is a growing population problem. So if a good portion travelled to Mars, that's less people contributing to waste on Earth and potentially saving the Earth.
The situation on Earth considering all ecological problems is very severe, and, unlike unmanned missions, manned missions to Mars would be very risky and costly and developing new technologies to make it less risky is also expensive. Plus no Mars colony in this century will be able to support more people than an average Antarctic science station, and any Mars colony will probably also serve only as science station. After all Antarctic was discovered 200 years ago and it is much closer and has better conditions, but still not colonised, so why do you think that plans of colonising Mars quickly will work any better? Exploring for science - that is ok, for sure, but for that unmanned missions are enough for now
Here's my quip: the same change that would come from discovering life on Mars is, as Bill said, a shift in perspective which is ALREADY accessible to us via the discovery of Copernicus let alone other science of the mind traditions, which is, namely, that we are NOT THE CENTER of the cosmos. We have a very peculiar vantage point, not just spatially, but temporally. Consider that 100 years ago the idea of an atomic bomb would have been unthinkable. That said, it is fundamentally a question of how we educate each other and live together because we can have all these wonderful (new) perspectives, but in a sense we already know them, we just don't embrace how unsettling they truly are on a consistent basis (for then they would no longer be unsettling - we would grow accustomed to them hence ignore their import). It would undermine every action we perform if we seriously lived the realization that WE do not matter as much as matter matters, for we are like vessels performing a special structural dance, assembling and repairing constantly, creating and destroying simultaneously. So, in the end it's not a new scientific discovery that will change the world so much as a new approach to science as such, namely one that treats it as a playful exploration of happenstance qualities jumbled together and constantly being ripped apart. In that case though, may as well turn to art, cinema, literature, other people even, to change the world, in which case science becomes less privileged as the savior of the human. It too is just a vessel, a perspective, one in which we have become obsessed with to the detriment of our fellow animals.
Why does life have to be so short? I'll be dead before I get to see anything significant..
I'm sure someone said that 200 years ago... They aren't missing much.
+Joshua Smith A lot has changed in 200 years.
+Joshua Smith I think you are just living under a rock; a REALLY big, heavy, rock.
Science will allow you to live for a very long time. Depending how old you are now, you could live to a thousand years or more.
***** I'm not going to get my hopes up..
Bill, you have the right idea. I want science to get the point where it is "that easy". And i want it to be that easy even further out. Will we ever get to that point?
Bill Nye off the chain
It seems like we go to Mars for the same reason we do general research. We don't know what we'll figure out when we spend time there, but we'll undoubtedly find something interesting and develop awesome new technology in the process.
It's substantially easier to "colonize" empty space than it is to colonize mars. Mars has gravity to over come, a lot of dust, and a day and night cycle, not to mention it being 3 years away.
It offers no advantages over just some space station.
Yes, lets practice takeing care of this one first.............
2:45 xD
Hes got a BSc in Mechanical Engineering. Like most 25 year olds...........
I don't know where this concept that Bill Nye isn't well versed in science came from; but I think the fact that it's uncritically accepted by religious people is fairly telling.
There's a reason he's respected in the scientific community, ykno? If you think that a magic, invisible man governs the cosmos, are you really even in a position to deride other people's scientific legitimacy?
Tuesday with Bill!
Must I make a video to ask a question? Can't I just email the question in text?
We will download consciousness one day like music hopefully soon in my lifetime I am 26 this February 12 so I expect by 2070 there will be a way to live forever we can change everything.
Lol you think you're gonna live another 50 years.
We are innately adventurous as humans and in denial of our own fate. ( keep laughing,)
Go to Death Valley, CA for 12 hrs with six bottles of h20 and a sandwich.
Then think about setting up a tent or cabin.
Come back to that location a week later and build it.
Study the science in that area.
Finish.
Then go home.
Clean your house.
That’s what I think about going to Mars, mostly simple shit. Thx-
Last part of the video perfectly pointing out religions flaw.
We just don't want to end up like dinosaurs. If we are only on earth, a huge asteroid can make humans extinct. That's why terraforming Mars or any other place outside earth should not be downplayed.
How about both?
I think going to Mars and establishing a colony will teach us a lot of things and help us gain access to resources in the long-term.
But it will take centuries at the very least before having a colony on Mars would save humans from extinction in the event that we were wiped out on Earth, since Mars will at least at first be dependent upon supplies from Earth.
I wish people like Elon Musk would stop trying to use "to prevent human extinction" as a selling point. Most people aren't thinking centuries ahead and most people hear that and think he means to use Mars as an escape valve in case global warming gets too bad, which is nonsensical.
That then leads people to apply the fallacy fallacy and assume that because going to Mars is sometimes supported by false reasoning that therefore going to Mars is bad and has no good reasons, even though there are plenty of good reasons for going to Mars i.e. long-term economics and scientific research.
In the meantime we also need to take protecting the Earth's climate seriously. While climate change isn't going to make us go extinct it already has disrupted people's lives and will continue to get worse if we don't do enough about it.
a better title would be: Let's save planet earth before we "move" to venus
+Lazur Mars*
Uranus*
Venus will never happen on earth if that's what you're getting at. All the carbon trapped in the ground was already at one point in the atmosphere. We will never ever have a runaway greenhouse effect.
+Uhohhotdog I meant it as a joke. But thanks for your answer anyways.
Viar Sedik Nah, it was pretty damn hilarious actually.
Because earth is boring. Mars ftw!
You could really be a great Doctor.
Tell Elon Musk that. Wait a minute he's the one actually "Changing the world"
'Let's Save Planet Earth before We Move to Mars'
The planet isn't in any danger.
The best way to save it is with BIll and Rachel's Sex Junk song.
"One day soon, man is going to be able to harness incredible energies, maybe even the atom... energies that could ultimately hurl us to other worlds in... in some sort of spaceship. And the men that reach out into space will be able to find ways to feed the hungry millions of the world and the cure their diseases. They will be able to find a way give each other hope and a common future. And those are the days worth living for." - Edith (ST:TOS City on the Edge of Forever)
the polynesians in canoes 100 000BC "were spreading out man were going"
I want to know why we use glass bottles for using one time the same one time use we do to cardboard boxes. It is crazy the amount of wasted resources, time and added pollution by these one use products.
Question. Why aren't we trying to make mars our launching point for space exploration? It would be easier to make air tight structures rather than making an atmosphere. Not to mention but the lessened friction (with out an atmosphere) and gravity it would make it way easier and cheaper to launch things from there. I'm sure there are more rare minerals on mars and in asteroids near mars to help build what we need there to launch these things. Also wouldn't the lack of an atmosphere make our telescopes much more sensitive? as a final note with out the planet holding onto an atmosphere (unlike with earth) couldn't you produce more co2 and other harmful gasses from building things with out having the toxic build up effect? I mean with the giant rock hurling though space with at something to protect it at least some of these gasses should be wiped off the planet. You guys are thinking to big, we need to micromanage this now haven before its lost.
As for the topic of saving earth I agree completely, no need to think about all these crazy things if your race wont live long enough to see any of it happen.
I so agree...let’s first heal our own planet before we pollute another! Can u imagine humans on mars? Humans will destroy it!
maybe the mars project is the earth project. near term antarctica.
Carry on
O'Neill Cylinder.
Anyone who thinks they want to be a Mars colonist should try out Antarctica for a decade - it is PARADISE compared to Mars!
If we moved to other planets, will there be a planet olympics?
+Hestia It would be interesting since they would have to choose a host planet and the conditions (such as gravity and atmosphere) would vary so much that a home field advantage would be so great it'd be unfair. The only way I think it could be made correct is to choose a place where nobody lives or trains so that it is unfamiliar to both sides.
+Hestia there will be Miss Galaxy Beauty pageants :P
We've never landed a man on the bottom of the ocean, nor colonized it, nor even set up a base or a station there.
Yeah 'cause that's lame dood
#onceadaneallwaysadane !!
There will always be naysayers in exploration.
Amen !, Let us better learn to live here on earth in at least a more harmonious and less incongruous manner with each other and, further, how to manage our emotions with regard to managing the technology that we already have developed that we are clearly incapable of managing properly at present before we even begin to consider intentionally migrating and taking the sickness that is humanity that infects this planet to infect another planet.
There is no good reason to support human life on Mars . We can learn everything we need to know with robots, advanced sensors and AI.
+Ken Bell we all need some *Elbow room*
+David n "manifest destiny" was an excuse for racial genocide and destruction of entire ecosystems. Pretty sure we dont want to drag that heavy baggage to the stars.
+David n Manifest Destiny was the reason White people wiped out First Nations. It was a primitive, evil philosophy, and one more American shame!
+David n wrong on both accounts
David n why?
I like your videos Mr. Nye but often you seem to answer what you like to answer instead of what the the people are questioning. Please listen a little more carefully in the future.
Because we already know what to do about earth and we just aren't doing it.
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I am doing it. Why don't you?
Why would it change the world of we found life on Mars. If we found life wouldn't it just prove that given the conditions we have here (temperatures, chemicals, etc.), if they are repeated elsewhere, life exists? Sure, I'd like to discover life elsewhere cuz it's fun to explore, but, it wouldn't really prove anything to us that wasn't already obvious on this planet.