I personally think that most people don't really quit because they cannot reach 1520 ilvl. Many hit 1520 ilvl and get gatekept to death on classes like scouter, reaper, and berserker or wait for 30+ minutes for a single support to join their at-ilvl lobby, and that's why most people quit. It feels like pushing for latest content punishes you and increases your level of stress exponentially as finding groups becomes that much more difficult unless you are a support player. Gatekeeping and support shortage are hands down two major reasons why people quit. Everything else is just not an issue - they have been showering us with mats from login rewards, ark passes, and events - people who play the game consistently can reach 1520 on their main at least no problem while being F2P.
For me its the idea that I have to spend a huge chunk on time and energy doing dailies, doing raids over and over again just for a few chances for honing at a ridiculous rate. By the time I actually manage to get into the lvl for the new content I probably have to wait 20 -30 mins while trying to get into a party. Thats 2 weeks probably of investment at the very least if I am starting from 1490(which i wasnt). So in all that time I could have done something else, invested my time into another thing. That's why I feel like just quitting cause if I slow down too much it will take me and eternity before I can even play the new content if I don't get bored and burnt out.
I'd say chaos dungeons are the easiest and one of the most important things to do casually. You can press "Alt + Q" to access chaos dungeons as well as other stuff!
I agree about the take it slow mentality and trying to go hard on top is only for hardcore players, that being said people don't quit because of patience, but more about needing to frind same stuff again and again everyday like a job on 3-6 characters. Not doing the must daily grind will dramatically slow progress in a way where progress becomes non existance. Seeing the numbers of players in the west shows how this system isnt working for us. It's a shame cause the combat is really good, but just that isnt enough.
100% with everything you said here man. A lot of new players want to be on the same footing as some of these high tier players/streamers that have been doing this grind since the start of Lost arks release in NA/EU. Rushing to get there only removes the fun of the game. Take your time, collect mokoko seeds, island souls and meet some people. Don't just rush MSQ & swipe your credit card for matts and call it a day because there's so much to experience in Lost ark. The game isn't just raid and repeat, there 's social aspects to the game, there's life skills and I'm sure with time there'll be more added to Lost Ark.
only got my main to 1520 last week, and did a prog party myself for brel, and eventually we did it. now im changing main class again, keeps you interested to play, on my way to 1520 with my new main :P
Finnaly...a video who that includes truth and not all this bs spread all around. Im a one trick pony - no alts to farm gold - i just dont wanna do them and spend time gearing them up and pumping mats,gold, pheons into them. And even tho i play only 1 character - i am 1537 ilvl - did g6 3 times so far during last 3 weeks. Not having alts i have enough pheons from all the freebies to actually get accesories and whatnot that i need on my char. Im a working guy - i dont have 6 h a day to do all the dailies too - sometimes cant even find time to do dailies on my one single char not to mention possible alts. People tend to spread myths you need alts to reach endgame - and this video as well as my playstyle confirms its not needed - it can help speed up but definitly not needed. And when we at the "speed up" thing - what there is to even rush for really...next content wich is brelshaza hardmode will be here in april - prolly like somewhere in the middle of it - so exactly 3 months from now - thats roughly 12 weekly resets - theres tons of time for anyone to actually get gears and even hone them high enough to go hardmode - no need to rush things god damned - its an mmo rpg - theres no ending to it really other then min maxing - take it slow and enjoy insted of being in this rat race and burn yourself out. Worth mentioning is fact you dont need to swipe for that too - as you said in the videos - you can do it with just bound mats - i presonally use anything i farm even the unbound mats - but definitly not needed to swipe and buy mats from mari shop. But hey its an unpopular opinion - ppl prefer to copy paste things they hear on other videos - reddit - forums - and cry they had enough of this constant grind. And here i am like "what grind"
im currently 1450 4x3 and the most annyoying thing since coming back to the game at the moment is the fact that im pretty much gatekept out of pugging vykas, all people do are title runs and its just this loop of i need the title to get in but need to run it for the title, ive also done it before but not enough times for the title
I'm on NA east azena looking for some homies to run 5-6 with. I have 2 characters at 1520+ soon to be 3, but I still haven't ran 5-6 yet cuz no friends.
Thanks! The top is one of the skins from the 2022 summer collection (can't remember the exact name since I'm not on lost ark atm) and the bottoms are from the recent lost ark season pass we just got!
I main a Paladin so I never get gate kept for obvious reasons. The honing in this game is the only soul crushing activity. Everything can be done casually. I barely do chaos dungeons except to get some mats on one character. FOMO in this game is real and everyone is inpatient 😂 Just play the game and try to hone and pray it goes up.
"I haven't even done my dailies" while none of the chars are full rest apart from Paladins Unas lol. I don't even touch dailies unless I would overcap on rest and even then I often skip it. The daily grind is the worst part of the game because its mind-numbingly boring.
It's a fun game. I share your sentiment, but everywhere I go everyone is just straight up stressed or just a giant a hole. You're probably the first chill person I've seen. I still play 6 characters, but they're all trapped at 1490 with 4x3. I try to make them 5x3 so I can actually do Brel 1 and 2 but it seems like it's just too much at this point for a f2p person like myself. I have not done a single raid in this game to date, I've bussed myself to that level because gatekeeping in this game is so out of this world. No one has time to teach or run anything in this game b/c they have a million things to do. They say the community is a reflection of the developers. If that's true, then I think the community and the company in general are just a bunch of selfish jerks.
First of all thanks for the kind words and secondly, I never knew I'd meet someone with 6 1490 characters who's never done a single raid!! That's quite interesting tbh but at the same time I do feel for you. I remember when Valtan came out, I did it with a group and we went in completely blind. I think everyone should experience those kind of raids like that but unfortunately it's so hard to find a group of chill people. I only have one person I play this game with. Also, getting a 5x3 will now be easier for sure since the new patch notes JUST dropped and even tho I was going to make a video about it, I'll leave it here in the comments as well just in case someone reads it. There's a huge PHEONS change that's going through tomorrow which will make tier 1+2 accessories cost no pheons and reduce the cost of tier 3 legendary/relic accessories significantly!
Best advice is to try and find a group for Raids, either a guild or some discord community. I have one static that I'm quite tryhard on (Hellmodes, bussing etc...) with people I've met in game and we've been playing together for like 9 months but I'm also part of a guild on my alts that have a lot of newer or casual players and we teach and run raids with them every week. All of them said they would've quit if they hadn't joined that guild so I'm convinced that's the way to go about the game if you're inexperienced.
Other than the Founder's pack and a character slot, I don't spend a dime on this game or swipe/RMT my butt off to catch up to the pack. I don't give in to peer pressure and I'm fine taking my time with things. The economy is so god damn inflated from the massive botting that yea it is hard to make a 5x3 roll 7-7 stones, so I pump my alts. You should honestly consider yourself lucky there are still players hanging around trying to make the game work, otherwise all you jackoffs would be stuck raiding and gatekeeping each other on your 18 legion raids every single week. And once Diablo 4 comes out, the game will be even more dead. So enjoy your time while it lasts, the end is near for you guys.
I don't get that "Sell all your tradeble mats" everyone says. Bro i need them to hone, I don't have enough bound mats. But yeah great video love you cheers
I only sell excess honing mats which I haven't done since Brel released. I'd rather use those mats to push my main. I run buses with a lot of my roster so luckily don't have a problem with gold.
Most people quit because the devs and decision makers in NA are trash and dont listen to their playerbase. All we wanted was all classes by 2023. Now we got the whole game and still no artist/aeromancer. If you check the forums everything anyone says falls on deaf ears. Like talking to a wall lol. CMs always say we will pass your message to the dev team. And the dev team can't do anything because the publishers and marketers tell them what to do and use them as the scapegoat for player hate. I have 9 t3s and 2600 hours played and i quit when i saw the roadmap just like everyone else.
I like how u acknowledge the fact that ags can't do much since smilegate have all the control and tell them what to do. That's very true and ngl, I also felt like quitting when I saw the roadmap but that was also the day I decided to play this game less and less. We've been told that we'd always be about 3-6 months behind KR which is sad but honestly Lost Ark has been the most fun mmo for me so I don't see myself quitting yet until a new one comes out
Ah yes it must be tough finding parties for lower level guardians. I'd definitely recommend honing up until 1415 and then searching for guardians because that's where majority of the players are currently. Deskaluda is one of the easiest guardians to farm as well. Way easier than Night Fox Yoho so definitely skip that one it's not worth your time. Once you get to 1415+, you'll realise why you can't find any lobbies and it's cuz the later guardians are extremely easy so everyone just uses the events to hone as much as they can and then do guardians :)
Basically if you want the game to be your main, good luck. Got to 1415 spent weeks gathering honing materials and only got one piece to +16. Massive yikes. If you don’t play an entire roster and swipe to get the roster to 1370 or bucket shit the game you will never get to a meaningful point. It’s sad because I like the game but it’s one extreme or the other.
Completely disagree. This sounds like a comment that would hold some meaning to it if it was posted in the second month lost ark release but the game has drastically changed to the point where you can get to 1445 with the hyper express event easily and the upcoming 1460 hyper express in April.
@@kazdaz0356u call that answering ? ‘Oh how did u get to 1520 man ?’ Oh i just have something easy i used bound mats and doing g1-g2 like everyone else 😂
@@GriimReaber that is the whole point LOL the answer is supposed to be simple because its supposed to not be hard to get to 1520. The video is also short because its short answer...
it's not about the destination...it's about the JOURNEY! Enjoy while you're at it
I personally think that most people don't really quit because they cannot reach 1520 ilvl. Many hit 1520 ilvl and get gatekept to death on classes like scouter, reaper, and berserker or wait for 30+ minutes for a single support to join their at-ilvl lobby, and that's why most people quit. It feels like pushing for latest content punishes you and increases your level of stress exponentially as finding groups becomes that much more difficult unless you are a support player. Gatekeeping and support shortage are hands down two major reasons why people quit. Everything else is just not an issue - they have been showering us with mats from login rewards, ark passes, and events - people who play the game consistently can reach 1520 on their main at least no problem while being F2P.
For me its the idea that I have to spend a huge chunk on time and energy doing dailies, doing raids over and over again just for a few chances for honing at a ridiculous rate. By the time I actually manage to get into the lvl for the new content I probably have to wait 20 -30 mins while trying to get into a party. Thats 2 weeks probably of investment at the very least if I am starting from 1490(which i wasnt). So in all that time I could have done something else, invested my time into another thing. That's why I feel like just quitting cause if I slow down too much it will take me and eternity before I can even play the new content if I don't get bored and burnt out.
Good to know! I'm going really slow, but I keep at it. I still haven't figured out how to hone or even done a chaos dungeon, but I have fun.
I'd say chaos dungeons are the easiest and one of the most important things to do casually. You can press "Alt + Q" to access chaos dungeons as well as other stuff!
I agree about the take it slow mentality and trying to go hard on top is only for hardcore players, that being said people don't quit because of patience, but more about needing to frind same stuff again and again everyday like a job on 3-6 characters. Not doing the must daily grind will dramatically slow progress in a way where progress becomes non existance.
Seeing the numbers of players in the west shows how this system isnt working for us. It's a shame cause the combat is really good, but just that isnt enough.
My problem with playing at my own pace is that now I'm behind and gatekept :(
100% with everything you said here man.
A lot of new players want to be on the same footing as some of these high tier players/streamers that have been doing this grind since the start of Lost arks release in NA/EU. Rushing to get there only removes the fun of the game. Take your time, collect mokoko seeds, island souls and meet some people. Don't just rush MSQ & swipe your credit card for matts and call it a day because there's so much to experience in Lost ark. The game isn't just raid and repeat, there 's social aspects to the game, there's life skills and I'm sure with time there'll be more added to Lost Ark.
I think they were gonna add a music maker thing? I'm really hyped for that!!
yeah when there were no raids and so much homework the game was chill af and really enjoyable. now its all about that homework check basically
That stoopzz part out of nowhere sent me 💀 Great video tho
only got my main to 1520 last week, and did a prog party myself for brel, and eventually we did it. now im changing main class again, keeps you interested to play, on my way to 1520 with my new main :P
This is proof that there is no correct way to play games. But if there was then this video would be the closest one 😊
Finnaly...a video who that includes truth and not all this bs spread all around.
Im a one trick pony - no alts to farm gold - i just dont wanna do them and spend time gearing them up and pumping mats,gold, pheons into them.
And even tho i play only 1 character - i am 1537 ilvl - did g6 3 times so far during last 3 weeks.
Not having alts i have enough pheons from all the freebies to actually get accesories and whatnot that i need on my char.
Im a working guy - i dont have 6 h a day to do all the dailies too - sometimes cant even find time to do dailies on my one single char not to mention possible alts.
People tend to spread myths you need alts to reach endgame - and this video as well as my playstyle confirms its not needed - it can help speed up but definitly not needed.
And when we at the "speed up" thing - what there is to even rush for really...next content wich is brelshaza hardmode will be here in april - prolly like somewhere in the middle of it - so exactly 3 months from now - thats roughly 12 weekly resets - theres tons of time for anyone to actually get gears and even hone them high enough to go hardmode - no need to rush things god damned - its an mmo rpg - theres no ending to it really other then min maxing - take it slow and enjoy insted of being in this rat race and burn yourself out.
Worth mentioning is fact you dont need to swipe for that too - as you said in the videos - you can do it with just bound mats - i presonally use anything i farm even the unbound mats - but definitly not needed to swipe and buy mats from mari shop.
But hey its an unpopular opinion - ppl prefer to copy paste things they hear on other videos - reddit - forums - and cry they had enough of this constant grind. And here i am like "what grind"
All I have to say to this is that you're an absolute legend 🖤 and I hope you continue to enjoy the game the way you decide to play it!
im currently 1450 4x3 and the most annyoying thing since coming back to the game at the moment is the fact that im pretty much gatekept out of pugging vykas, all people do are title runs and its just this loop of i need the title to get in but need to run it for the title, ive also done it before but not enough times for the title
Ah that's unfortunate :/ but I think your best option would be to make your own lobby since you've already done the raid and know how to clear it!
Join a discord and find some people to prog with
if it wasnt for buses, half of us would be gone.
Aye I'm down for some brelsheezy, will be looking forward to your streams!
I'm on NA east azena looking for some homies to run 5-6 with. I have 2 characters at 1520+ soon to be 3, but I still haven't ran 5-6 yet cuz no friends.
What skin are you using? Look gorgeous
Thanks! The top is one of the skins from the 2022 summer collection (can't remember the exact name since I'm not on lost ark atm) and the bottoms are from the recent lost ark season pass we just got!
@@CrypticBoss so i cant buy the bottom ? :((
I main a Paladin so I never get gate kept for obvious reasons. The honing in this game is the only soul crushing activity. Everything can be done casually. I barely do chaos dungeons except to get some mats on one character. FOMO in this game is real and everyone is inpatient 😂 Just play the game and try to hone and pray it goes up.
"I haven't even done my dailies" while none of the chars are full rest apart from Paladins Unas lol. I don't even touch dailies unless I would overcap on rest and even then I often skip it. The daily grind is the worst part of the game because its mind-numbingly boring.
im on kharmine and yeah if you can find me foralis is the name, im 1490 now
Any game that takes that long isn't fun and the developers don't care
welcome to mmos
@@CrypticBoss Welcome to Lost Ark*
It's a fun game. I share your sentiment, but everywhere I go everyone is just straight up stressed or just a giant a hole. You're probably the first chill person I've seen. I still play 6 characters, but they're all trapped at 1490 with 4x3. I try to make them 5x3 so I can actually do Brel 1 and 2 but it seems like it's just too much at this point for a f2p person like myself. I have not done a single raid in this game to date, I've bussed myself to that level because gatekeeping in this game is so out of this world. No one has time to teach or run anything in this game b/c they have a million things to do. They say the community is a reflection of the developers. If that's true, then I think the community and the company in general are just a bunch of selfish jerks.
First of all thanks for the kind words and secondly, I never knew I'd meet someone with 6 1490 characters who's never done a single raid!! That's quite interesting tbh but at the same time I do feel for you. I remember when Valtan came out, I did it with a group and we went in completely blind. I think everyone should experience those kind of raids like that but unfortunately it's so hard to find a group of chill people. I only have one person I play this game with. Also, getting a 5x3 will now be easier for sure since the new patch notes JUST dropped and even tho I was going to make a video about it, I'll leave it here in the comments as well just in case someone reads it.
There's a huge PHEONS change that's going through tomorrow which will make tier 1+2 accessories cost no pheons and reduce the cost of tier 3 legendary/relic accessories significantly!
Best advice is to try and find a group for Raids, either a guild or some discord community. I have one static that I'm quite tryhard on (Hellmodes, bussing etc...) with people I've met in game and we've been playing together for like 9 months but I'm also part of a guild on my alts that have a lot of newer or casual players and we teach and run raids with them every week. All of them said they would've quit if they hadn't joined that guild so I'm convinced that's the way to go about the game if you're inexperienced.
6 characters ilvl 1490 4x3 and you've never done a single raid? I think you have other problems than ppl gatekeeping you mate.
Other than the Founder's pack and a character slot, I don't spend a dime on this game or swipe/RMT my butt off to catch up to the pack. I don't give in to peer pressure and I'm fine taking my time with things. The economy is so god damn inflated from the massive botting that yea it is hard to make a 5x3 roll 7-7 stones, so I pump my alts. You should honestly consider yourself lucky there are still players hanging around trying to make the game work, otherwise all you jackoffs would be stuck raiding and gatekeeping each other on your 18 legion raids every single week. And once Diablo 4 comes out, the game will be even more dead. So enjoy your time while it lasts, the end is near for you guys.
@@nejiisurgod Are you okay? lol
I don't get that "Sell all your tradeble mats" everyone says. Bro i need them to hone, I don't have enough bound mats. But yeah great video love you cheers
I only sell excess honing mats which I haven't done since Brel released. I'd rather use those mats to push my main. I run buses with a lot of my roster so luckily don't have a problem with gold.
Most people quit because the devs and decision makers in NA are trash and dont listen to their playerbase. All we wanted was all classes by 2023. Now we got the whole game and still no artist/aeromancer. If you check the forums everything anyone says falls on deaf ears. Like talking to a wall lol. CMs always say we will pass your message to the dev team. And the dev team can't do anything because the publishers and marketers tell them what to do and use them as the scapegoat for player hate. I have 9 t3s and 2600 hours played and i quit when i saw the roadmap just like everyone else.
I like how u acknowledge the fact that ags can't do much since smilegate have all the control and tell them what to do. That's very true and ngl, I also felt like quitting when I saw the roadmap but that was also the day I decided to play this game less and less. We've been told that we'd always be about 3-6 months behind KR which is sad but honestly Lost Ark has been the most fun mmo for me so I don't see myself quitting yet until a new one comes out
Just came back to the game, can't even get into a guardian raid 1340+ ilvl lol what is this game? 200,000+ bots?
Ah yes it must be tough finding parties for lower level guardians. I'd definitely recommend honing up until 1415 and then searching for guardians because that's where majority of the players are currently. Deskaluda is one of the easiest guardians to farm as well. Way easier than Night Fox Yoho so definitely skip that one it's not worth your time. Once you get to 1415+, you'll realise why you can't find any lobbies and it's cuz the later guardians are extremely easy so everyone just uses the events to hone as much as they can and then do guardians :)
O brel runs I just have a bunch of 1370s
im gonna go at my own pace which is not doing my chaos cuz i think thats even more fun >:D
at this point I don't even know what to say to u leah
Basically if you want the game to be your main, good luck. Got to 1415 spent weeks gathering honing materials and only got one piece to +16. Massive yikes. If you don’t play an entire roster and swipe to get the roster to 1370 or bucket shit the game you will never get to a meaningful point. It’s sad because I like the game but it’s one extreme or the other.
Completely disagree. This sounds like a comment that would hold some meaning to it if it was posted in the second month lost ark release but the game has drastically changed to the point where you can get to 1445 with the hyper express event easily and the upcoming 1460 hyper express in April.
@@CrypticBoss I missed the hyper express by 3 days, so I'm just stuck getting pity on every item, feels hopeless
@@CrypticBoss So if i want to come back in to play the game, i'll need to wait ? Yeah, no, i play something else then, i guess.
wanna see slow?
started as early founder and just now getting my main to 1445 with a second character just hitting 1445 as well. semi-active player 🤣
Hitting 1445 is so big cuz now u can do Valtan which is honestly the most fun raid in the entire game!
where is the (how) ? 3 minutes without the HOW YOU DID IT
he answered that in the video many times about using bound mats and only doing g1+g2 brel...
Did you even watch the video lmao
@@kazdaz0356u call that answering ? ‘Oh how did u get to 1520 man ?’ Oh i just have something easy i used bound mats and doing g1-g2 like everyone else 😂
@@GriimReaber that is the whole point LOL the answer is supposed to be simple because its supposed to not be hard to get to 1520. The video is also short because its short answer...
@@kazdaz0356 bruh.. if thats how , there is no reason for a video to begin with because thats what everyone is doing lol
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