420mm/s 145k accel, 70k decel, 125 square corner velocity, 335C eSun ABS plus on a Voron Design V2.4 with some weight mods and 48v stepper drive. #speedboatrace
Im calling it right now, there is going to be a 3d printing tournament or something where people compete with fast printers where someone tells a problem or task and a team has to work as fast as possible to design and print out the solution.
It will be the F1 for 3D printing. Excellent way to improve the overall technology and performance of all 3D printers. Think of all the new techniques that would come about that could trickle down to regular 3DP. The faster 3D printing becomes, the more useful it is for everyone.
@@csandford you're right, imagine new innovations similar to non-planar slicing, or like people do with gamers where they copy settings and upgrades to get better prints at home. That'll drive the price of entry further down as well as the mods getting cheaper and more recognition means greater chance of cool ideas.
Now that would be a nice challenge, building a model that actually makes the printer play a song while printing it... That might be the hour of birth to a knew form of art: visualizing music in static 3D-Objects! 😲
If the compressed air is integrated into the printer such as with the "berd air" cooling pumps available, I could see that being in the spirit of the game. They may be loud but so is the printer vibrating the house's foundation away!
im ashamed i didnt think of that myself. compressed air is wildly used in laser cutters as well as down draft ventilation. I could see a compressed air, not very high psi i would imagine but with some engineered ducting (using airflow modeling) i believe it really could be done. maybe add a variable flow valve to restrict airflow at first so its not on full blast at first and then wide open as the print progresses. coupled with a down draft ventilation plate like a laser cutter has, printing ABS would be less stinky. i dunno im spitballing here but honestly, compressed air would be a great way to target problem hotspots while cooling the print and reducing mass on the gantry
@@MrRevolverkiller yes but its harder to control and à too precise cooling could even damage the build so I dont realy see why using compresed air instead of fans
@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart Yes I understand, I'm not interested in actually going this fast. I just love that the basis with this design is there to even make this possible. Which means, I think, that a Voron is a nice platform to have.
@@lunchbox1341 Is there an alternative for beginners? I have an Anycubic I3 Mega-S, and have really taken to the hobby. I'm not looking to set records with my printer, but am already in the market for an upgrade, hahaha.
I can put out a 100% perfect, no-blemish benchy in about 15 minutes. Any faster than that and you start to get errors, and lack of cooling on the plastic.
@@slummybell23 Jesus! I can bust out a perfect one on my stock Ender 3v2 in 45 min. I could probably do it faster but I've only been printing for 2 months so I'm still learning.
This is some great work! Idk if you could move the camera a little further away. It can be very hard to hear what you’re saying sometimes because of the printer noise. I don’t wanna miss any of what you’re saying lol.
Need to ditch the steppers for servos and get a remote air source using tubing to the ducts. Will help eliminate the fans moment of inertia and their weight. Maybe find the lightest linear carriage possible and maybe a flying bowden overhead with its own positioning system decoupled from the print head. I think this would be close to the "ideal limits" of what printers could achieve in the near future.
I can hear the LM guides and belts going beyond its designed capabilities but who cares -- it's fun. HAHA. If I hit the jackpot tonight, I'll try to break the sound barrier: carbon fiber frame, linear electromagnetic actuators, plasma hot end, and a Bugatti Veyron powered extruder capable of pushing 1kg/sec. LOL.
Genius! Deff maxed oout your thermal Heat transfer in your extruder setup. MORE WATTAGE :) YOU sir have earned a subscriber! Pushing the limits of tech like this! Thanks for the inspiration!
Awesome! That is a perfectly acceptable benchy! I had the same issue on the first version of my hot end assy with normal prints before I went with two shrouds at 90deg. V3 is going to be at 180 degrees, gotta cool from both sides. I'm shocked it even makes a difference at this speed. IMHO it would be totally legal and within the spirit to have a fan on the side. That is part of this community. It's your printer. You are also finding what our limits are, and this is really amazing to watch you find them. Do what you have to that is within the rules.
Where did you get this dope ass purple excursion? That's the best color ive seen on any printer so far. Damn that moves fast. Now I'm mad I git 2 prusas instead of building this but next one is ratrig corexy can't wait to build that.
You may be able to get more adequate cooling without resorting to something like compressed air by looking at server cooling fans. They are a bit heavier but push a LOT more air.
That's amazing I'm sold I am about to order one. I believe after this ender 3 I am a certified 3d printer mechanic I ain't scared to build the voron lol.
Wow, that is incredible. Have you thought about doing more to dampen vibrations? Attaching some dead weight might really help, either covering the extrusions and filling them with sand, or just placing the whole Voron on a big slap of concrete with rubber feet underneath that. I'm sure there's more possibilities than that, too. Deadening the vibrations might help a little with the insane accellerations you're running. Anyway this is super impressive, thanks for sharing!
I-........ I just got into 3D printing, getting and ender 3 pro.... it takes me hours to print a benchy and this shit was so fast I blinked and it was done. Even if it was slowed down a bit, I bet his printer can print that benchy in 15 min and have the perfect print quality. When I heard Voron builds are fast, I legit didnt imagine it was THIS fast lmao
The main problem here is that everything including the desk is shaking. You should try to fix the printer to the ground, or to a really, really heavy desk. At this point, the plastic springs under the printer are only allowing it to move more.
A thorough guide on what's necessary for such fast speeds is missing on the internet. I've found guides about individual components and settings but nothing that just goes through everything necessary to be so fast. I'm currently upgrading my ender 3 V2 for higher speeds (higher flow rate hotend, dual fan setup, tweaking jerk, acceleration etc) but I'm more or less going by what I think makes sense instead of having proper guidance. If someone like you could explain what goes into this, I'd happily pay you 20€ for that video.
WTF I thought it was speeded up video, so the print was done in under 6 hours :D Checked again your phone's clock and holly shit this was a realtime video.
Someone get that printer a cigarette! Here i am scrolled down to read a few of these hilarious comments real quick, looked up and it was on the smoke stack!!
Consider a Peltier cooler before the bl9wer so it creates cooler air to blow at the print head. No clue how you could mount it and keep the extra mass secure as they work better with a heatsink on them. I had to reverse power on one to find which way worked better for cooling on a different project. With your setup I wolud recommend putting it above the hotend, flip the blower fan to suck air from the cooled fins on the peltier and blow down at the nozel. They use 12V so you might want to add a FET or relay to power it.
Liquid cooling is next :D . Cooling should not be a problem AT ALL. You can remove heat from the print with more/colder air. An extended ceramic heating tube with ceramic nozzle would allow more time for the plastic to heat up, allowing you to feed thicker filament through a smaller opening at higher pressure but at a lower feed speed. I think there are ways to remove lots of weight from the printer. I would use a carbon fiber space frame rail with thin aluminum strips as sliding surface. This will drop the weight a lot and give you lower inertial forces and better acceleration. Look at the speeds PnP machines run at, and you know there is a lot of performance left on the table. The most extreme would be PEEK. It is a high temp resin that can hold up to 600 degrees. That way you could go 100% composite. After all that has been exhausted the switch to dual nozzle systems will double the print speed.
I don't see an issue with fans off the printhead (just like having your extruder off the printhead), in fact my oldest machine has no cooling fan for PLA (I almost exclusively use ABS, so there is no need for one), but when I did PLA recently I put an airplane motor with 13" prop blowing gently across the whole bed and it did alright (really should have had 2x, one for each side), but it worked well enough. I don't see a reason you would need your fan to be on a moving piece, just like you don't require your screen to be moving around too.
I wonder if you got rid of the fans, added a silicone aquarium airline tube and a custom shroud for the printhead, hooked the tube up to a shop vac on the blower side, or a squirrelcage floor drying fan. That way it's not manual, and integrated into the design of the printer. though at that point you might need to slap heat sinks onto your steppers.
When that thing started printing my first thought was "JESUS". Impressive. Definitely a good way to find out if there are any lose screws lol.
Looked like it was having a seizure.
Probably needs locktight lol
no need, all screws will be loose after this
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nice
Hopefully he used loctite.
Yeah well my printer can almost get up to printing temps in the time it took you to print that
But your Benchy will look better I hope
oh oh yeah? well my skr mini just broke out of nowhere and btt support is garbage. so there
@@CrowClouds I once had the thermistor inputs break on a SKR 1.3.
@@soundspark I ended up just buying a replacement myself. Been working so far
I like how this guy is just casually talking over the video while the printer just goes brrrrrr and seemingly about to disintegrate in the background.
Yeah, I put the (autogenerated) subtitles because I couldn’t understand him and funny enough, half of the time CC takes the printer noise as _music._
How can he be so calm during an intense print like that
Never thought I would want to se a slowmo of a 3D printer in action.
just look at the printer u have at home print and boom u now have a voron in slow mo
@@stevenr3544 damn
@@stevenr3544 Jesus, Dude. You killed him.
@@stevenr3544 hahaha stop it he is already dead, no need to double tap lol
@@stevenr3544 Sadge 🤣🤣
When you have to do your homework at the last min...
Me printing my engineering capstone project so I can be done with school
This is what I first imagined 3d printers were like
As someone who is used to manual machining timeframes, the idea of printing a benchy in 1 hour and 45 minutes still sounds like Sci-fi to me.
@@mchagnon7 regular printers can go under ans hour with good parameters, technology evolve every day
@@valian8985 I think evolve is the wrong word, advance is far more accurate
@@Eagle_K1A nah, I like evolve. Advance implies linearity, evolve just denotes adaptation to the pressures of necessity
Im calling it right now, there is going to be a 3d printing tournament or something where people compete with fast printers where someone tells a problem or task and a team has to work as fast as possible to design and print out the solution.
instead of world championships for soccer we'll have one for fast printers or best print quality etc xD
@@at0mic282 that's what i was thinking too 😂
Thats a damn Good idea 💡
It will be the F1 for 3D printing. Excellent way to improve the overall technology and performance of all 3D printers. Think of all the new techniques that would come about that could trickle down to regular 3DP. The faster 3D printing becomes, the more useful it is for everyone.
@@csandford you're right, imagine new innovations similar to non-planar slicing, or like people do with gamers where they copy settings and upgrades to get better prints at home. That'll drive the price of entry further down as well as the mods getting cheaper and more recognition means greater chance of cool ideas.
personally, i'm simply impressed that you got it held down to the table tight enough to lean your phone against it without welding it down.
Its on a floor dude... lol
@@Enders they still should have welded the phone to the floor
amazingly, it's just sitting on a dormer shelf, like a big window shelf... it has big rubber feet which helps.
I swear that I hear a midi version of a Metallica song in there.
Darkness!!! Imprisoning me!!! 😲
Yep, I hear that bit in One too :D
Now that would be a nice challenge, building a model that actually makes the printer play a song while printing it... That might be the hour of birth to a knew form of art: visualizing music in static 3D-Objects! 😲
somebody recently pointed out that the auto-subtitles actually say [Music] at one point!!! Like some deathmetal rip.
@@JoshMurrah You could do an ASMR video...
I never thought I’d see speed running in the 3d printing community. I’m still fairly new and just found this now. God this is insane.
If you haven't yet seen it there is a guy who did like a 3 minute benchy on a voron 0
It's cool....but printing functional parts in a reasonable amount of time....not days is why it is so attractive.
If the compressed air is integrated into the printer such as with the "berd air" cooling pumps available, I could see that being in the spirit of the game. They may be loud but so is the printer vibrating the house's foundation away!
im ashamed i didnt think of that myself. compressed air is wildly used in laser cutters as well as down draft ventilation. I could see a compressed air, not very high psi i would imagine but with some engineered ducting (using airflow modeling) i believe it really could be done. maybe add a variable flow valve to restrict airflow at first so its not on full blast at first and then wide open as the print progresses. coupled with a down draft ventilation plate like a laser cutter has, printing ABS would be less stinky. i dunno im spitballing here but honestly, compressed air would be a great way to target problem hotspots while cooling the print and reducing mass on the gantry
Yes but why have compresed air, when u dont need it ? These kind of fans are already enough to cool the parts.
@@valian8985 i meant to replace the fans with compressed air
@@MrRevolverkiller yes but its harder to control and à too precise cooling could even damage the build so I dont realy see why using compresed air instead of fans
@@valian8985 yeah it was an idea just spitballing
the tiny bit of smoke coming from the smoke stack when the print is finished is perfect.
First time that I see what they mean with a speed benchy, holy moly. So going to built a Voron. :)
The Voron is great, but be aware that this is a heavily modified version, and a stock Voron won't get anywhere near this.
@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart Yes I understand, I'm not interested in actually going this fast. I just love that the basis with this design is there to even make this possible. Which means, I think, that a Voron is a nice platform to have.
@@VincentGroenewold Yeah a voron is a very nice printer, but damn is it expensive to build
@@lunchbox1341 Is there an alternative for beginners? I have an Anycubic I3 Mega-S, and have really taken to the hobby. I'm not looking to set records with my printer, but am already in the market for an upgrade, hahaha.
Blv mgn or hevort printers are a little cheaper to build usually. I think the hevort said it's related builds are where it's at imo.
That thing sounds more like a sewing machine than a printer, but DAMN that's fast...
Imagine running this in a dorm
Just 5 minutes and 20 seconds of noise
@@brimful-cookie5947 5 minutes and 20 seconds of the sound of Megatron trying to get it on without lube.
@@dynamicpaintball 🤣🤣🤣
@@soundspark haha
These speed benchies are going to make 3d printing much faster for all of us 👍🏻
This is literally 4x the speed of my Ender 3 on the fastest setting. This is incredible.
how'd you get your ender 3 so fast?
a basic ender 3? fat chance lmfao
Great Scott! I'm givin' her all she's got, Captain!
Those are 2 different franchises.
420mm/s extrusion?! Amazing! Blazing fast
That's incredible. I'd love to see how much quality improves as speed decreases though. 7 min, 10 min, vs 15 min benchy.
I can put out a 100% perfect, no-blemish benchy in about 15 minutes. Any faster than that and you start to get errors, and lack of cooling on the plastic.
@@JoshMurrah 15 minuits is inane! My printer takes like 2 hours to get a good benchy.
@@slummybell23 min takes 2h 45m and I have a problem with stringing I'm solving rn
@@JoshMurrah that is insane
@@slummybell23 Jesus! I can bust out a perfect one on my stock Ender 3v2 in 45 min. I could probably do it faster but I've only been printing for 2 months so I'm still learning.
awesome work! nice to see a new record! #speedboatrace. also, noticed the smoke stack was literally smoking at the end
Yeah i noticed that too !!! that was awesome
This is how it feels to do homework when the teachers collecting it
I like how this is explained in a normal matter and not making it sound like time travel
The speed at which the head moves at is insane. Ridiculously awesome.
This is some great work! Idk if you could move the camera a little further away. It can be very hard to hear what you’re saying sometimes because of the printer noise. I don’t wanna miss any of what you’re saying lol.
Honestly I'm most impressed with that bed adhesion. When I go above 20mm/s I start having issues lol
That’s faster and a better print than what I’ve seen from Ratrig printers
HAHAHA the little puff of smoke coming from the Benchy Smoke pipe at the end of the print is so fitting xD
Need to ditch the steppers for servos and get a remote air source using tubing to the ducts. Will help eliminate the fans moment of inertia and their weight. Maybe find the lightest linear carriage possible and maybe a flying bowden overhead with its own positioning system decoupled from the print head. I think this would be close to the "ideal limits" of what printers could achieve in the near future.
I have an overkill addition: use an AC to cool the benchy and the hotair output to preheat the filament
Why not just put more motor and more fans xD ?
My printer takes 2.4 hrs to print the benchy. Your printer looks like mine on time lapse. Good job.
So, I was designing a a Delta to compete.... Now I'm just designing a Delta :P
Mind to share your Voron config file? :)
I can hear the LM guides and belts going beyond its designed capabilities but who cares -- it's fun. HAHA. If I hit the jackpot tonight, I'll try to break the sound barrier: carbon fiber frame, linear electromagnetic actuators, plasma hot end, and a Bugatti Veyron powered extruder capable of pushing 1kg/sec. LOL.
You need to do the Stone slab upgrade. The entire thing is about to take off
The best-looking Voron I've seen.
Genius! Deff maxed oout your thermal Heat transfer in your extruder setup. MORE WATTAGE :)
YOU sir have earned a subscriber!
Pushing the limits of tech like this! Thanks for the inspiration!
Awesome! That is a perfectly acceptable benchy! I had the same issue on the first version of my hot end assy with normal prints before I went with two shrouds at 90deg. V3 is going to be at 180 degrees, gotta cool from both sides. I'm shocked it even makes a difference at this speed. IMHO it would be totally legal and within the spirit to have a fan on the side. That is part of this community. It's your printer. You are also finding what our limits are, and this is really amazing to watch you find them. Do what you have to that is within the rules.
bro in that time I can barely do the slicing
Amazing how fast it can go. Surprised it hasn't simply caught itself on fire or exploded.
Where did you get this dope ass purple excursion? That's the best color ive seen on any printer so far. Damn that moves fast. Now I'm mad I git 2 prusas instead of building this but next one is ratrig corexy can't wait to build that.
www.printedsolid.com/products/ldo-voron-2-4-frame-kit
@@hudsoncraftworks that’s the kit I ordered in red.
mount it to a 50kg stone plate. should help with those vibrations
Holy carp!
Excellent explanation of everything you've done to achieve this! Thanks
This is beautiful. Truly incredible!
That was mental, it looks sped up but then you see the timer!
I would like to recommend installing a nozzle cam.if possible😁
That would shake it to bits! Lmfao
Now this is the geek's choice of ASMR ;) Awesome printer
Very cool exercise at the limit of this mechanical system, absolutely fascinating
Him: super chill and soothing talking
Printer : completly dying! fast as f boy
Wtf did I just watch? That benchy appeared out of nowhere 😳
You may be able to get more adequate cooling without resorting to something like compressed air by looking at server cooling fans. They are a bit heavier but push a LOT more air.
I didn't realize I NEEDED to see high speed printing until now....m..
420 mm/s... Lol. Thank you for this.
That purple is gorgeous
D: jesus the noises are scary.
I'm tempted to make a 2mm nozzle or osmething an dupload a parody just making a half molten mess
That's amazing I'm sold I am about to order one. I believe after this ender 3 I am a certified 3d printer mechanic I ain't scared to build the voron lol.
Thanks Josh for the benchy test, but please next time give us less sound from the printer and more sound from your mic. Have an amazing day!!!
My first printer was made of plywood.
Can’t wait for my parts kit.
jesus christ, this a benchy only a mother could love ...
Jesus! It even has a headband on it's "head", that's how serious that speed is
I love the purple! What a cool printer
My printer does the same when i have a damaged stepper driver. 🤣
Wow, that is incredible.
Have you thought about doing more to dampen vibrations? Attaching some dead weight might really help, either covering the extrusions and filling them with sand, or just placing the whole Voron on a big slap of concrete with rubber feet underneath that. I'm sure there's more possibilities than that, too. Deadening the vibrations might help a little with the insane accellerations you're running.
Anyway this is super impressive, thanks for sharing!
I-........ I just got into 3D printing, getting and ender 3 pro.... it takes me hours to print a benchy and this shit was so fast I blinked and it was done. Even if it was slowed down a bit, I bet his printer can print that benchy in 15 min and have the perfect print quality. When I heard Voron builds are fast, I legit didnt imagine it was THIS fast lmao
For 5 mins that's amazing !
Hard to hear over the [Music] ;D
Great result for team voron!
This is insane! I watched in x0.5 speed and it is still 10x faster than my printer 🥲
"How fast can your machine print a Benchy?"
*YES*
The main problem here is that everything including the desk is shaking. You should try to fix the printer to the ground, or to a really, really heavy desk. At this point, the plastic springs under the printer are only allowing it to move more.
At 5:59, you can see smoke coming from the chimney. Nice!
You singlehandedly convinced me to build one.
Even the chemney got some smoke!!
running a bit faster than the BMG-MVN you sold me! Awesome!!
Its kinda like a Harley! Tighten all fasteners between trips or its gonna rattle itsself apart! VERY COOL!
A thorough guide on what's necessary for such fast speeds is missing on the internet. I've found guides about individual components and settings but nothing that just goes through everything necessary to be so fast.
I'm currently upgrading my ender 3 V2 for higher speeds (higher flow rate hotend, dual fan setup, tweaking jerk, acceleration etc) but I'm more or less going by what I think makes sense instead of having proper guidance.
If someone like you could explain what goes into this, I'd happily pay you 20€ for that video.
WTF I thought it was speeded up video, so the print was done in under 6 hours :D Checked again your phone's clock and holly shit this was a realtime video.
Hi, this is amazing, and can I forward this video to bilibili so people from CHINA can see this. I'll refer to this channel in the description. Thanks
The poor poor printer, you almost hears him scream
_Almost?_
*_A L M O S T ?_*
Giving birth to Benchy. So beautiful. 😊
Someone get that printer a cigarette! Here i am scrolled down to read a few of these hilarious comments real quick, looked up and it was on the smoke stack!!
Consider a Peltier cooler before the bl9wer so it creates cooler air to blow at the print head. No clue how you could mount it and keep the extra mass secure as they work better with a heatsink on them. I had to reverse power on one to find which way worked better for cooling on a different project. With your setup I wolud recommend putting it above the hotend, flip the blower fan to suck air from the cooled fins on the peltier and blow down at the nozel. They use 12V so you might want to add a FET or relay to power it.
I absolutely love the colors on this, did you purchase it purple or customize it?
Curious about that myself. The color is insane!
Oh. My. God.
That purple color.
Just kidding. That was amazing.
Liquid cooling is next :D . Cooling should not be a problem AT ALL. You can remove heat from the print with more/colder air. An extended ceramic heating tube with ceramic nozzle would allow more time for the plastic to heat up, allowing you to feed thicker filament through a smaller opening at higher pressure but at a lower feed speed. I think there are ways to remove lots of weight from the printer. I would use a carbon fiber space frame rail with thin aluminum strips as sliding surface. This will drop the weight a lot and give you lower inertial forces and better acceleration.
Look at the speeds PnP machines run at, and you know there is a lot of performance left on the table. The most extreme would be PEEK. It is a high temp resin that can hold up to 600 degrees. That way you could go 100% composite. After all that has been exhausted the switch to dual nozzle systems will double the print speed.
Jegs has a universal transmission blanket you could strap around that thing easy. Part# 555-60970
The faster it goes, the faster it flys..apart.
And it still looks better than the benchy that my first crappy printer took 2 hours to print
I don't see an issue with fans off the printhead (just like having your extruder off the printhead), in fact my oldest machine has no cooling fan for PLA (I almost exclusively use ABS, so there is no need for one), but when I did PLA recently I put an airplane motor with 13" prop blowing gently across the whole bed and it did alright (really should have had 2x, one for each side), but it worked well enough. I don't see a reason you would need your fan to be on a moving piece, just like you don't require your screen to be moving around too.
I wonder if you got rid of the fans, added a silicone aquarium airline tube and a custom shroud for the printhead, hooked the tube up to a shop vac on the blower side, or a squirrelcage floor drying fan. That way it's not manual, and integrated into the design of the printer. though at that point you might need to slap heat sinks onto your steppers.
5:39 that is a nice samba right there.
Sweet Baby Jesus its all Purple.. so good
nice one Josh..
Thanks Nitram!!
Bro that’s like newlyweds hiking, fucking in tents
You’re pushing that much material with a sherpa mini?! Holy moly
For 5 minutes, the result is ULTRA AWESOME!
thanks!
Pretty good at this insane speed really good 👍
Don't leave this purple beauty out in public. I WILL steal it.
No but seriously, glorious build. #want
you can buy relatively small high cfm 110v blowers, mount one above the printer and have a cooling tube or two come down with the bowden tube
Brother : Its an earthquake....RUUUUUUUUUNN...
Me : You Voron... it's a 3d printer... get back here
Turned out better then my first few prints on my Rostock max… hahah
Talking about rapid prototyping. This is literally 3D printer goes BRRRRR
Dudeee. This speed is unimaginable.