Korg WAVESTATE // Review and full tutorial // Wave sequencing and Vector synthesis explained

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

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  • @loopop
    @loopop  3 года назад +33

    IMPORTANT UPDATE 2: Korg just released a software-only version of Wavestate with a discount for people who bought the hardware version.
    IMPORTANT UPDATE 1: You know all the cons in this video? Korg pretty much addressed them in firmware version 2... Here's my full coverage: ruclips.net/video/eBCSvTLYF1Q/видео.html

  • @Garethduffy707
    @Garethduffy707 2 месяца назад +3

    I am from 2024 and have an MK2 module…I still found this review incredibly helpful and a joy to watch

  • @nestorparedes2996
    @nestorparedes2996 3 года назад +56

    I am amazed at your ability to learn and retain the operation of so many gears in such a short time.

  • @GeorgeChaidaris
    @GeorgeChaidaris 4 года назад +188

    To all the other "reviewers" out there. THIS IS HOW A REVIEW SHOULD BE. Thank u loopop. Excellent.

    • @levilewin3364
      @levilewin3364 4 года назад +3

      This is the same as literally every review like wut

    • @Anthony-sn9kl
      @Anthony-sn9kl 3 года назад +2

      It’s pure poetry

    • @SkuStyle
      @SkuStyle 3 года назад +6

      @@levilewin3364 No it's not, it's explained & simplified much better than most reviews so no, it's not the same wut.

    • @Curious_Skeptic
      @Curious_Skeptic 3 года назад +4

      AMEN! Always professional and easy to understand, organized. My go to when I want to do some research.

    • @koinpusher
      @koinpusher 2 года назад +1

      Loopop always has the best reviews! His knowledge on all the gear too tho. The stuff he shows off he does with it almost always give those 'insta-buy' vibes

  • @Beatprisoner
    @Beatprisoner 5 лет назад +353

    What I really can‘t understand are people which are giving this kind of review a thumbs down!
    Really, I don‘t get it. They might not like the reviewed device, ok, fine. But this guy has spend so much time on an excellent and professional review. What‘s wrong with that.
    Just haters and idiots I guess. No friends, no fun, no life.
    Anyway loopop: excellent review, as always. A lot of usefull information. I already ordered the Wavestate even I do still have some concerns in regards to modmatrix and menue diving.

    • @argiopeMusic
      @argiopeMusic 4 года назад +27

      Yeah, some people expect every review/demo to just be playing - which is dumb to me because I don't care what someone else can do with an instrument. I want to know what I can do with an instrument. That's where @loopop is awesome -- he shows us what we can do with things.

    • @MSS-g7f
      @MSS-g7f 4 года назад +3

      I had a chat about this the other day with another YT regular and the conclusion was that in a lot of cases it is ire at the item being reviewed not the reviewer, having said that is this not what the comments section is for? But when you see virulent reaction from fanboys who have someone chip away at their perceptions it then becomes more understandable.

    • @johneffinger6977
      @johneffinger6977 4 года назад +5

      Very professional tutorial! I would have watched it if it was 45 minutes longer with demos accompanying all he explained!!

    • @FlockOfHawks
      @FlockOfHawks 4 года назад +19

      @Beatprisoner
      nah nah nah , you're making a big mistake here : those upside down thumbs are australian likes !

    • @fisk0
      @fisk0 4 года назад +2

      As I've heard it there are people who are paid to thumb down (and up) semi-random videos in order to influence the "suggested videos" algorithm too.

  • @Da5eK
    @Da5eK 5 лет назад +94

    We are witnessing the Korg golden age.

    • @TheSynthZone
      @TheSynthZone 4 года назад

      could be better, more repros less cash required to get it hahaha!

    • @lundsweden
      @lundsweden 3 года назад

      If this is too expensive for you, buy a Volca. I have a few of them and they are AWESOME!

    • @DS-nw4eq
      @DS-nw4eq 9 месяцев назад

      @@lundsweden. No they are not awesome.

    • @DS-nw4eq
      @DS-nw4eq 9 месяцев назад

      Drama much. Sheesh

    • @RorertoLombardo
      @RorertoLombardo 8 месяцев назад

      It sounds thin and cheap sometimes, good for sound effects but not a serious sounding synth.

  • @connerdacus1344
    @connerdacus1344 3 года назад +6

    Thank you Loopop. I ordered a wavestate and your video has been extremely helpful. I'm still surprised that something with this much depth is around $700! Seeing your update video is also a blessing, because now we can get multisamples from analog synths into the wavestate! A very wonderful, deep and portable synth in my opinion. Cheers.

  • @metaspherz
    @metaspherz 5 лет назад +7

    You did it Loopop...your review made me pre-order a synth for the first time in 25 years. And I've never seen such a massive new synth unveiling by a company. Korg must have over-nighted dozens of units to YT influencers! Genius!

  • @gvickerschtick
    @gvickerschtick 5 лет назад +90

    20 seconds in and I’m already wanting this....

    • @nym053
      @nym053 5 лет назад +2

      Same

    • @srsneakyrussian7618
      @srsneakyrussian7618 5 лет назад +3

      I have the same feeling with every review from loopop

    • @vjfrankwalker
      @vjfrankwalker 5 лет назад

      15 sec :-)))))

    • @R---66---R
      @R---66---R 5 лет назад +1

      14,9999999 sec ;-}

    • @TheSynthZone
      @TheSynthZone 4 года назад

      The keyboard is frustratingly short it seems. Use a bigger board I guess.

  • @AwakeFM
    @AwakeFM 5 лет назад +31

    Aw man, they brought back the joystick. Korg hittin' me right in those feels.

  • @HH-Thorsten
    @HH-Thorsten 5 лет назад +2

    If there is a new synth on the market you only need one channel to get all the information available. This is the channel. Love it !

  • @Hainbach
    @Hainbach 5 лет назад +36

    Very nice review, my friend! Love the OG Wavestation, cool to see this out.

    • @manuelsteinmair
      @manuelsteinmair 5 лет назад +3

      With all those sequencers i totally can see this thing controlling a new form of nuclear reactor. So basically you could use it in some way to create music with it? ;-)

    • @loopop
      @loopop  5 лет назад +4

      Thanks very much - would be very interesting to see what you'd do with this!

    • @TheSynthZone
      @TheSynthZone 5 лет назад +1

      I have a mint wavestation , I want this also. Maybe I am being greedy but I want another wave sequencing machine. I only have a hand full right now from Waldorf, Fizmo, wavestation... I could sell the ws if this can do even more, but I like the yamaha keyboard the tech spotted doing a small repair. Flat out yamaha in mine.

    • @bobcatt2294
      @bobcatt2294 4 года назад +1

      You nailed it. Great technology bending waves and the magic of the randomisation tools but how does it work within the context of music? Perhaps background music for a video game?

    • @ErraticFaith
      @ErraticFaith 4 года назад

      It doesn't but lets be honest, these people care about nothing sans their own opinion. Leave them to it. Wavestate is a bedroom gimmick at best. 37 keys with GB's of piano sounds from mainline boards? Sure. Ok. Would you like some octaves and actual customization with that rehashed 90's breakfast at all?

  • @misius164
    @misius164 4 года назад +3

    4 minutes in and as a total newb who has never even owned a synth: very clearly presented what's happening under the hood!

  • @mike7755
    @mike7755 4 года назад +9

    You made this confusing instrument seem pretty approachable. I really love that this thing is just UNIQUE, and can do bizarre things that an analogue synth can't even scratch. And it gets into the strange territory that retro romplers explored, but it in a way more approachable way. That asynchronous sequence and effect concept is out of this world. I may end up getting obsessed with this puppy. Time will tell ;) Thanks for a great review!

    • @efnbrg
      @efnbrg 3 года назад +1

      I agree I’m looking for something a bit weird and this one seems to have that down

    • @dirtycelinefrenchman
      @dirtycelinefrenchman 2 года назад

      Synthesis as a form of music making is pretty weird in general

  • @killroy123
    @killroy123 5 лет назад +115

    I've always wanted a synth where I could cover songs from Akira and Ghost in the Shell. Sounds amazing

    • @CO5MA
      @CO5MA 5 лет назад +4

      killroy123 ❤️

    • @providief
      @providief 5 лет назад +3

      exactly the vibe i got !

    • @robertsyrett1992
      @robertsyrett1992 5 лет назад +1

      NAILED IT!

    • @slakk5093
      @slakk5093 5 лет назад +1

      Yes!! I love both those soundtracks and yes you nailed it with that comment

    • @ExaVortex
      @ExaVortex 5 лет назад +4

      Very well spotted, it's those 80s/90s inspired tribal percussions. Which were a big part of the sound on the Roland D-50 as well.

  • @winddealer1
    @winddealer1 5 лет назад +6

    Bravo on creating a structuring yet another in-depth surperlative review on such a dynamic instrument. No better RUclips channel destination to gather a no non-sense feature value proposition for this vertical. Gratefully.

  • @tomd7706
    @tomd7706 4 года назад +5

    Just picked this up. I'm still learning my Virus TI Polar after over a decade. Thank you for this.

  • @TPsynth
    @TPsynth 5 лет назад +75

    Amazing synth, pro demo. I vote for a desktop module too.

    • @NineHellHeaven
      @NineHellHeaven 5 лет назад +7

      Agreed but please make it rack mount.

    • @n_o_
      @n_o_ 5 лет назад +2

      @@NineHellHeaven won't fit, its 3" too wide and already cluttered. maybe if they dump the pitch/mod wheels and squish everything over o top of that lonely help button

    • @superultrathanksmom3845
      @superultrathanksmom3845 5 лет назад +5

      @@n_o_ Well of course they'll dump the pitch and mod wheels in a desktop version. That always happens.

    • @josephwright5921
      @josephwright5921 5 лет назад +4

      I vote for the desktop version with a tilting panel like the very rare Redsound ELEVATA!

    • @pumpernickelplace
      @pumpernickelplace 5 лет назад

      waaaaant a module ♡ ‿ ♡

  • @lucist
    @lucist 5 лет назад +25

    i was just alerted this existed 20 minutes ago & promptly you have a video!!! 👏❤👍👏

    • @lucist
      @lucist 5 лет назад +5

      you deserve more subs

  • @Diskoboy1974
    @Diskoboy1974 5 лет назад +3

    Just pre-ordered one this weekend. Cannot wait to play with this thing. Almost all the sounds I've heard this thing create so far are just incredible.

  • @michael7018
    @michael7018 9 месяцев назад +4

    Got my hands on a Wavestate to add to a couple analog synths for the purpose of sequencing Berlin school, 80s pop etc. it takes a while to master this beast but wow! You can get very good results very quickly. Amazing synth. Just be patient and spend the time you will be rewarded fairly quickly. Combining this with a knob for knob analog synth makes this synth the best I’ve seen in over 20 years. A timeless synth that won’t get old. Then there’s full midi implementation… blows my mind.

  • @danpreston564
    @danpreston564 5 лет назад +45

    For someone like me, who bought my first synth in 1992, this is what synths are supposed to sound like. 😚👌

    • @Heathcliff_hensel
      @Heathcliff_hensel 5 лет назад +3

      Gen x synth gang! Is the Prophecy or Z1 coming next?

  • @alexvincent4465
    @alexvincent4465 4 года назад +2

    Becoming interested in a synth and then discovering a loopop demonstration of that synth... it’s a great thing.

  • @ivanhirlander2004
    @ivanhirlander2004 4 года назад +6

    I made Slovak subtitles for Czech and Slovak speaking synthgeeks. Zev, thank you for letting me translate them. Excellent review, btw. :)

    • @loopop
      @loopop  4 года назад +2

      Thanks for taking the time to do this!

  • @kokomanation
    @kokomanation Год назад

    This thing doesn't exist anywhere in the market now I really needed it.

  • @vaspers
    @vaspers 3 года назад +2

    My last digital synth was Roland V-Synth. Mostly buying analog gear now, but this tutorial review has convinced me that Korg Wavestate is a necessity in my studio! Well done, as usual, Loopop! Much respect!

    • @fjdubya5726
      @fjdubya5726 2 года назад +1

      I'm in exactly the same boat. Really trying to focus on analog gear, especially with Behringer making it so cheap to experiment and try it out. I'm 50 and I've been playing keyboards since around 1984. But unfortunately that was pretty much the same year that digital slammed the market. By the time I was affluent enough to go buying and experimenting with various synthesizers that was pretty much all there was on the market. The first since I bought with my own money and also the first I gigged with, was a Korg N5ex. A few years later I bought at least I on because I had always wanted to try analog gear.... But it was the closest I could get in my price range. I think I spent 500 bucks on each of those two synths. My first experiences with true analog in my own studio still weren't actually completely analog. I eventually acquired a Kawai K3 and a Korg DW8000, both with analog filters but the waveforms were sampled. 2 years ago I bought behringer's Crave and Odyssey, finally getting to sink my teeth into true analog at last! I'm interested in getting a Moog Subharmonicon, Dreadbox Nymphes or similar as my next analog synth...but Wavestate is making me rethink that a little! 😏

  • @ebhd33
    @ebhd33 2 года назад

    Excellent! I was so overwhelmed with the complexity of this machine when I saw all the controls, but now I fell confident enough to purchase it. Thank you very much.

  • @geecen
    @geecen 5 лет назад +6

    Amazing! Finally synth companies making stuff I want.

  • @thom-alphaxiii-5106
    @thom-alphaxiii-5106 5 лет назад +9

    my gosh, this is quite an impressive and clever synth

  • @crimsonweather
    @crimsonweather 5 лет назад +36

    This synth will be amazing in creating cheesy-lovescenes-in-90s-horror-movies!
    On a serious note, I had the original wavestation,and I am happy that KORG respects their people by recreating the old stuff in a good way unlike *cough*Roland*Cough*

    • @TheSynthZone
      @TheSynthZone 5 лет назад +9

      Ambient music needs love too.

    • @TheSynthZone
      @TheSynthZone 4 года назад

      @@alexsartandmusic While the wavestate may seem like another "rompler" I assure you that it is not. It will choke doing a roland TB3 but so does the clones. Not a TB 3. Not a rompler. It truly synthesizes and is designed for programmers. It is a different beast than any I ever owned or own. I LOVE analog too.

    • @joebrewer4529
      @joebrewer4529 3 года назад

      No I think Roland did the right thing but they did the wrong thing by not using the form factor that they presented in the reissues that they did to percent newer concepts and that form factor. I think the JD 08 they finally got a ride and if they were smart they would actually develop newer modules and actually try to revolutionize. I mean they're blowing a huge market and a huge opportunity to capitalize. I mean who wouldn't want like an electronic maybe not as full-blown because the form factor will be a little bit smaller but something comparable I mean you got all kinds of ways you can run without form factor.

    • @fjdubya5726
      @fjdubya5726 2 года назад

      Wise man once say, "Many of the best things have already been done, the trick is to do those same things better."

  • @architectofechoes4
    @architectofechoes4 4 года назад

    Some reviews are all talk and no play, some are sounds and no talking, but loopop reviews are more or less perfect, you get to hear what's on offer as well as a great tutorial on what does what. IMO the best Wavestate demo there is. And with a contents list on the side as well !!

  • @RikMaxSpeed
    @RikMaxSpeed 4 года назад +6

    I am loving this synth, finally managed to get hold of one despite Covid, and it is really a breath of fresh air: great sounds, and very well thought out, quick to navigate around, easy to program. Even the voice allocation is smart (like a Nord Lead 3), for example you can have a mono bass sound on the lowest note you're playing, a pad in the middle and a mono lead on the highest note, use the 4th track for drums and you have a band-in-a-box!! KORG are going to have to issue a big-brother version of this synth with a full keyboard 😘

    • @TheSynthZone
      @TheSynthZone 4 года назад +3

      The wait was agonizing! Still wish it had more keys or was a module...sigh ....Super nice to work with but a little intimidating at first glance.saving up for that , Korg! Performance controls rock my world!

  • @timriley4648
    @timriley4648 4 года назад +1

    Amazing lesson. Have been here a few times and will be coming back many many more for awhile. May be most watched youtube video ever for me and I have been here for 15 years or so, so that is a pretty high compliment sir!

  • @danphillips2137
    @danphillips2137 5 лет назад +4

    Thanks for the review! I'm glad that you like the synth. Re sample sorting: when in the Sample Select list, use PAGE + to go to the Filters & Sort Order page.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  5 лет назад +2

      Thanks! Indeed I show that in the video (categories and sample bank) - it would be great to favorite and search as well

    • @CharlesFerraro
      @CharlesFerraro 5 лет назад +1

      Didn't know you have a youtube, Dan! Congrats on launching Wavestate! I subbed in case you decide to upload some vids ;)

  • @d-dub8890
    @d-dub8890 3 года назад +2

    Wow! That's the best board review I've ever watched. Nicely done!

  • @guitarman9526
    @guitarman9526 5 лет назад +5

    This is the synth I've always wanted but either didn't exist or I couldn't afford. Sign me up for that preorder!

  • @marcosburgos3173
    @marcosburgos3173 3 года назад +1

    Seriously you should make a video for all the other reviewers on how to review!
    This video was incredibly helpful Thank you!!

  • @colonelrjb3608
    @colonelrjb3608 5 лет назад +21

    I was going to buy the Hydrasynth, after seeing this I’ve changed my mind.

    • @jaykeel7309
      @jaykeel7309 4 года назад +4

      Big mistake

    • @colonelrjb3608
      @colonelrjb3608 4 года назад +6

      Jay Keel such as? I do not like the sound of the Modal. The hydra is still a menu diver and I like the overall sound from the Korg.

    • @Jason75913
      @Jason75913 4 года назад +1

      @@colonelrjb3608 trading a wavetable synth for a compact rompler?

    • @jaykeel7309
      @jaykeel7309 4 года назад +1

      @@colonelrjb3608 Menu diver? Have you ever played one? Enjoy your Korg...

    • @colonelrjb3608
      @colonelrjb3608 4 года назад +6

      Jay Keel well considering I don’t see anything of significance of your expertise on synths posted here, I’ll assume you’re a troll, and take your words of wisdom with a grain of salt. To each their own.
      Now yes the ease of sound production: ASM > Modal >> Korg. Look and feel of the synth: ASM=Korg>>Modal. Generated sounds:Korg>=ASM>Modal. Modal and ASM wave morphing, Korg wave sequencing. Each synth has its pluses and minuses but they are all fine synths. I just prefer the Korg personally.

  • @TimesOfTheSines.official
    @TimesOfTheSines.official Год назад +1

    Thanx for this review, now I realise they are 4pt multi instruments. This has, & is more like the original Wavestations than I had thought. My 2nd synth in about 93... was a Wavestation EX. I learned to properly create & time my own original wavesequences with it. Most who tried or purchased one for this feature, failed the learning curve of the synth... or found wavesequencing & headache to master & understand for programming. I've honestly found most hardware synths especially... Usually to be at least a few notches easier to work out than those Wavestations were. Wavestates aren't the 1 track wonders that I had mistaken they were tho. So this has great appeal now, & I can get the old school Wavestation tricks working too with these. Top marks & review thanx

  • @andrelenz405
    @andrelenz405 5 лет назад +22

    Well played Korg, welcome back in the game, we shall say.
    Loopop always the best reviewer, subscribe to him!

    • @Оченьплохойдиджей
      @Оченьплохойдиджей 5 лет назад

      I like this synth, like new korg, take my subscribe.
      Пацаны, пацаны, реально рад за коржей, есть их гитарный тюнер, 16 лет работает, все четко.

  • @dpwaldman3145
    @dpwaldman3145 3 года назад +2

    Amazing review and tutorial. Probably the best I’ve seen for any keyboard. I am so excited to pick up the 61-key version of Wavestate as soon as it becomes available. Very inspiring! Thank you! This will be my first foray into synthesis.

  • @tomsdffdf1452
    @tomsdffdf1452 5 лет назад +5

    Much more than I was expecting. That looks like fun!

  • @kevinmcguirk3212
    @kevinmcguirk3212 5 лет назад +1

    I really, truly, badly, desperately, passionately want this synth. Great video, & well done, Korg!

  • @ConwayBob
    @ConwayBob 5 лет назад +158

    Well, I was just sitting here wondering where to spend that extra grand that I don't have lying around, and now I know!

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 5 лет назад +5

      Is the price confirmed to be $1,000? I can't seem to find it anywhere. I expected it to be $1,200 - $1,500. $1,000 sounds about right too. If it were any less this would be quite a steal. My eyes are currently on the Lyra8 and Argon8 though. My wallet... It's hoping I don't even buy a Behringer Neutron/Model D, let alone something like this. :D

    • @jimshannononsounds
      @jimshannononsounds 5 лет назад +3

      @@mikeexits I read $800 US most likely ~ Cad $1000 but I can't confirm this

    • @johngudgeon7454
      @johngudgeon7454 5 лет назад

      I saw a price on one of the sites I frequent. It was at $1250 Australian. Grab the calculators!

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 5 лет назад +5

      @@jimshannononsounds I found a pre-order page on Guitar Center's website, it's indeed $800. Quite a deal!

    • @ScottsSynthStuff
      @ScottsSynthStuff 5 лет назад +1

      @@mikeexits Sweetwater has it listed at $800

  • @yvesbajulaz
    @yvesbajulaz 2 года назад

    Always so well made and clear, the king of tutorials

  • @TheSynthZone
    @TheSynthZone 5 лет назад +17

    The wavestation and it's kind makes picking out a square wave and a couple of triangles and using a filter look like a walk in the park.This looks like a nice way to spend a weekend making a patch or two....

    • @PutItAway101
      @PutItAway101 5 лет назад +2

      To be honest if I had one I'd probably keep hitting "random" til it came up with something good for me

    • @TheSynthZone
      @TheSynthZone 4 года назад +1

      @@PutItAway101 I try that once in a while, I needed a sound that was a combination of synthesizer, voices, strings and a gong every few random beats and this did it easily. I had to add the vocoderized track separately and over dub but it blended OK. Then it was a matter of fitting it into a mix with moog and novation BS2 and some other bits.

  • @athanasioskaralias
    @athanasioskaralias 3 года назад

    This is not only a comprehensive review but a full user manual as well. Very good work!

  • @TheScreamingFrog916
    @TheScreamingFrog916 5 лет назад +2

    I hope Korg will listen to user feedback, and continue to support the Wavestation with software updates, to address unforeseen shortcomings, and provide extra features.
    That is the kind of thing, that I really appreciate from a company.
    I for one, am willing to pay for updates that add features, as long as the updates that fix bugs, are free.

    • @TheScreamingFrog916
      @TheScreamingFrog916 2 года назад

      @Nigel Day Yes, Great update.
      I have installed it.
      Thanks for the tip, and have a wonderful day.

  • @viezurelepanykt
    @viezurelepanykt 3 года назад

    I've been watching for a year your videos... I was looking into a synth to take my creativity beyond just playing... I have been looking into every synth there is (mostly the affordable ones) but I think this is the one! this kind of synth is in that 90% range of what I'm looking for, and your tutorials are the best I could find on RUclips to explain properly how to use this kind of gear. Thank you loopop for the amazing tutorials you are providing us with!

    • @viezurelepanykt
      @viezurelepanykt 3 года назад

      I was curious about your opinion on this versus a behringer deepmind 12 for composing more melodic deep house and minimal genres

    • @loopop
      @loopop  3 года назад +1

      I think they're totally different synths, but I can’t give any specific advice because I really believe no one should make the decision for you, and every time I tried, people went up going with something different, probably rightfully so, because my needs aren’t like yours. Obviously I hope the information in my videos and book help people out, but ultimately what to buy is a mix of emotions, workflow, features, brand affinity, an artist that inspired you, etc…

    • @viezurelepanykt
      @viezurelepanykt 3 года назад

      @@loopop i keep coming to this video just because i love the sounds that you create on this synth! :D just freaking love it!, btw i've seen you covered some of the volca series of synths, but i was wondering if you have in your plans to cover a review for most of them (volca keys, volca beats, volca sample etc)

    • @loopop
      @loopop  3 года назад

      No current plans...

  • @DavidTimberDKT
    @DavidTimberDKT 5 лет назад +8

    Synth manufacturers are living in the 90's still when it comes to the output screens on the synths. The are in monochrome text like a raster or vector monitor and about 2"'-3"" . Event top end workstations and arrangers have a small output monitor with no option for an external monitor.

    • @mmhcreates
      @mmhcreates 4 года назад

      External monitor output makes sense.

    • @TheSynthZone
      @TheSynthZone 4 года назад

      The 45k $ Fairlight had a screen but the Emulators for 7.5k $ won the day. Had to buy a computer and software to really dig in . Went for an Atari, Akai X7000 and 400 software for 2k. total. Mac was that much alone. Not sorry!

  • @BlackMytilus
    @BlackMytilus 3 года назад +1

    Very good tutorial. I just recently purchased one of these great machines, but there was only a very abridged manual added.. So by watching this video I can learn much more about this magic music box with all the capacities it contains!

  • @wickeddubz
    @wickeddubz 5 лет назад +6

    Well, i can say only 2 things. 1. Great demo and explanation 2. Who can recommend any affordable anti-GAS pills?

  • @JansKanaal
    @JansKanaal 5 лет назад +1

    With every new synth announced, only two youtube channels matter. SonicState to check PWM capabilities (kidding), and Loopop for the full tutorial. And not affiliated with large german webshops, haha. This one nails it again. Keep up the good work man, much appreciated.

  • @gladtobeangry
    @gladtobeangry 5 лет назад +3

    Strong vibes of the Akira OST in that outro. Looks like a fun instrument to play with.

  • @jjrusy7438
    @jjrusy7438 4 года назад +2

    lol. I made a general comment 3 months ago when I first watched this video in "overview" mode. It was a large part of my decision to order one. I finally received my wavestate, and this video has much more meaning and I am working through it slowly now. This video really takes a lot of the scary out of operating the beast.
    btw, the momentum is building for your journey to rule the world of synth reviewers. I am seeing other videos where the author basically says to go see loopop about how, whatever they are playing with that day, functions. If you watch the korg tutorial series, you will see so many things they could have done better = bush league. lol
    stay safe...…..

  • @athopi
    @athopi 5 лет назад +20

    Glad I bought my new telescope before I heard about this!

    • @james9789
      @james9789 5 лет назад +3

      Good seeing!

    • @TheSynthZone
      @TheSynthZone 4 года назад +1

      I wanted to tell you about the garage sale I went to in the 1980s. Found a 14 inch celestron and equatorial mount on the rafters in the shed. they did not care about. , they wanted 800. True story! 4 bottles of windex later.

    • @athopi
      @athopi 4 года назад

      @@TheSynthZone Score!

  • @teriakamoto
    @teriakamoto 2 года назад

    Best Channel for Synth. Comprehensive. Insightful. Stimulating. Oh Yeah Baby.

  • @buzzfunk
    @buzzfunk 5 лет назад +7

    Korg never disappoints..in the age of touchscreen and OLED, presenting yet another tiny screen.

    • @n_o_
      @n_o_ 5 лет назад +9

      yea but think how much better this is than whatever nightmares a touch ui from korg would involve. let them do knobs. they know knobs.

    • @BlisterHiker
      @BlisterHiker 3 года назад +3

      @@n_o_ The damn screen should be at least 2x bigger. It's the XXI century, wtf are they doing? it's worse than some home computers 40 years ago!
      Small displays are no big issue in synths that do not involve so much complexity, but that's not the case here. With so many samples, sequencing etc, Wavestate begs for more space on the screen.

    • @ShadowriverUB
      @ShadowriverUB 6 месяцев назад

      Problem is software, coding ui is hard on embeded devices and you need to focus on sound generation

  • @MaikSchott
    @MaikSchott 3 года назад

    Thanks a lot - I appreciate the time you spent getting busy with the Wavestate to get familiar with the features and then even bring it to such a level to be able to do a very smooth 45min performance without stumbling around. Really good!

  • @mc2engineeringprof
    @mc2engineeringprof 5 лет назад +46

    I don't know. I own an original Wavestation (and the software version) and this really isn't all that different from either. So, I'm certain that there's been a hardware synth around for about 25 years that can function fairly similarly and a softsynth for nearly a decade as well.
    It sure would be nice to see Korg or Roland or Yamaha or any of the big synth manufacturers actually do some real R&D and advance the state of the art instead of digging up their back catalog to repackage old ideas as new ones to keep their lights on. The smaller players are certainly trying to do just that in some cases, but the big guys with all of the money and resources are like Disney: they play it safe by looking back instead of being courageous and taking a chance on something new and novel and different.
    Where are the FPGA additive or spectral modeling synths? Where are the hardware units with dedicated processors and RAM sufficient for true real-time physical modeling and additive synths? Where are the next - gen DSP chips that are commensurate with modern PC and server processors?
    If Korg and their contemporaries won't do it, then they'll have no right to cry when someone else DOES and wipes the floor with them in the next few years.

    • @DaneXbsinthe
      @DaneXbsinthe 5 лет назад +1

      Brian McCalla I hear you. I got my WS 30 years ago.... the approach to synthesis is really a different paradigm here. Every synth since the 90s has a certain disappointment, ‘ what no vectors, no 256 stage envelopes or lfos only 4 waves shapes... ‘
      Yeah... where’s the additive synths?

    • @DarkLightProjector
      @DarkLightProjector 5 лет назад +6

      Brian McCalla
      To address the first part of your comment, I’m looking forward to a proper comparison between the original WS and this one. I’m primarily interested in how this DAC sounds versus the one of the original in an A/B comparison. The original Wavestation has an almost magical sound to it, with a pretty warm tone for being digital (although the JD-800/990 has it beat in when it comes to warmth). While this new one does appear to have expanded capabilities, I’m not sure it’s to the extent that I would get rid of my EX.
      As for the rest of what you said, I think Korg has taken a cue from Behringer and is going to push further into revivals and remakes. Behringer has a set of consumers with a voracious appetite for clones who will go on to rebuke the original companies for not reissuing what Behringer has cloned. Music companies like Korg see this and want to get in on the money while reclaiming their former glory in the eyes of consumers hungry for rehashes. Yamaha is catapulting further into this foray as well, with a poll back in Summer 2019 that asked if people wanted to see a CS-80 remake amongst other, more modern takes.
      But you’re absolutely right in asking where the new technologies are-the music tech industry appears to be a dog that gets paid to chase its tail. Hey, I like this old stuff a lot myself, but I concede that too little focus is being put into true innovations. In fact, it seems most companies are not pushing into new sound creation territories at all! It’s a shame, because in this world saturated with clones and vst repros, we need something fresh more than anything. We need new sounds with new ways to make them!

    • @cubis
      @cubis 5 лет назад +6

      The wavestation interface is atrocious in comparison.

    • @cubis
      @cubis 5 лет назад

      @@DarkLightProjector if he was talking about behringer I can't help but laugh.
      Behringer has over 10k employees and an actual city full of factories manufacturing chips and synth parts. They are NOT "the little guy".

    • @DarkLightProjector
      @DarkLightProjector 5 лет назад +1

      cubis
      Nah, it was crucial to talk about the company that all the other companies know is putting numbers on the board. I wasn’t really thinking about the ones OP refers to

  • @earlsfield
    @earlsfield 3 года назад +2

    New update is amazing. Just made Wavestate into ultimate sample-based synth by allowing user sample building. Wavestate and Oktatrack - you are set for life when it comes to sample manipulation. Also, it is important to notice how much Elektron's sequencer resembles wave sequencing, in its core.

  • @DoctorJRx
    @DoctorJRx 4 года назад

    My favorite channel .. I'm always blown away by your in-depth reviews..my go-to before buying a synth !!

  • @murdockscott
    @murdockscott 5 лет назад +10

    Oh well hell, just when I thought I would never buy another synth... I absolutely love the Wavestatation but came to despise how predictable it sounded. This seems like perfection to me.

    • @TheSynthZone
      @TheSynthZone 4 года назад

      Yes, wavestation way overused, very tough to program. But, it can nest side by side now with it's genealogical descendent, if you kept one. Wavestation SR a real bargain right now. Maybe an EX if you have a few bucks.

    • @murdockscott
      @murdockscott 4 года назад +1

      @@TheSynthZone I still have an SR, I consolidated many years back and acquired it for my “compact essentials rack” I would love to have the full unit, but it’s hard to justify taking up the space as I also own Korg’s quite capable software emulation of the WS. 😀

  • @doughankins3996
    @doughankins3996 3 года назад

    This device is incredibly functional. You present things very well too!! Thanks!!

  • @TheBusterMan
    @TheBusterMan 5 лет назад +9

    This reminded me of segments of Depeche Modes 'Music for the masses'.

    • @TheSynthZone
      @TheSynthZone 4 года назад +1

      A sampling based band and a sampling based synth, incredible!

    • @nivac5227
      @nivac5227 3 года назад

      Yes, like Never let me down again first seconds.

  • @strangersun7721
    @strangersun7721 5 лет назад

    YOU LUCKY DOG! So glad to see a video from you about this synth shortly after rumors on Reddit. What a time to be alive.

  • @Heathcliff_hensel
    @Heathcliff_hensel 5 лет назад +7

    the ambient jam nerds on Reddit will love this.

    • @TheSynthZone
      @TheSynthZone 4 года назад

      says the headmaster." Let the feast begin!

  • @vgfxworks
    @vgfxworks 4 года назад +1

    amazing again ! wavestate + opsix could easily make one dive into a
    state of completely loosing the notion of time and space for days...
    thanks for another great review LOOPOP ! 👏

  • @xiaoxia5
    @xiaoxia5 4 года назад +3

    as much as i'd like to order one of these right now, i'm going to wait on it. what i'm hoping is, that Korg released the current Wavestate to see how it sells. if it's a hit, perhaps they will release a expanded version of it later, with 61 keys, a bigger display, and more goodies.

    • @VincentPresley
      @VincentPresley 4 года назад +1

      Yeah, just got one and it definitely feels like a crappy toy. I wish it was built like the Hydrasynth. Shit, even the all plastic Korg DS8 feels 100 times better than this thing. It seriously feels like if it fell off a stand once it would shatter or if you shook it real hard it just wouldn't work at all. It's weird to me because it seems like if you're building a synth very small and light you are aiming for the easy tour synth market but if it's meant to go on the road it probably shouldn't be make out of cardboard and tissue paper.

  • @FlockOfHawks
    @FlockOfHawks 4 года назад +2

    So much beauty in Syntheland these days , i'm completely overwhelmed
    Aaannnd . . . SUB

  • @MarcWeertsMusic
    @MarcWeertsMusic 5 лет назад +4

    Great demo! Again an expressive synth without aftertouch though...

    • @MrBothandNether
      @MrBothandNether 5 лет назад

      it's got it in the synth itself...it's own keybed what is incapable of transmitting it, though.
      Waiting for the desktop, and the Osmos :P

  • @rockhead11
    @rockhead11 5 лет назад

    Thank you for this excellent review/tutorial.
    Your channel has become the Litmus Test for synthesizers.

  • @RichardGroulx
    @RichardGroulx 5 лет назад +10

    Interesting. COuld be an impulse buy if they ever drop the keyboard and come out with a module version.

  • @axeast
    @axeast 4 года назад

    hats off sir, yours is a review this beast deserves. didn't see much even coming close :)

  • @okeribok
    @okeribok 5 лет назад +20

    Another Con: no aftertouch. Almost all of the WaveStation got ported over, but the 61 keys and the aftertouch. Hope Korg make a desktop/rack/app version with A/D input and sample loading.

    • @JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION
      @JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION 5 лет назад

      Exactly
      The AD is missing.. Great for vocoding lime Teddy Riley used on his countless hits.

    • @blakecasimir
      @blakecasimir 5 лет назад +1

      @Rhizosphere easy way to cut costs and create product segmentation

    • @TheSynthZone
      @TheSynthZone 5 лет назад

      Or use a keyboard and midi it, or wait for a possible desktop unit.

    • @homeslice1479
      @homeslice1479 5 лет назад

      @@TheSynthZone Mmmmmmm desktop version. Gimme.

  • @joshmozdzen7397
    @joshmozdzen7397 4 года назад +1

    Got mine a month ago. Love it. Love it more thanks to this tutorial

  • @DaneXbsinthe
    @DaneXbsinthe 5 лет назад +4

    I’m curious about compatibility with old Wavestation patches. Looks like this has the classic stuff so...?

    • @wavesequencer
      @wavesequencer 5 лет назад +3

      Not going to be directly compatible, but you could reconstruct the wavesequences since it has all the original waveforms. So you could create similar patches. The storage architecture for patches/performances is also very different so making a software translation tool would be extremely difficult.

    • @GrahndDorkus
      @GrahndDorkus 5 лет назад

      Wavesequencer cue: oscillator sink! 😂

  • @life-is-inspiring3953
    @life-is-inspiring3953 4 года назад +2

    The best Wavestate tutorial

  • @cermet1320
    @cermet1320 5 лет назад +5

    How does this compare with Argon8? Or is it different synthesis formats?
    Edit: Though I can see the sound is completely different to Argon8

    • @MrBothandNether
      @MrBothandNether 5 лет назад

      6:30 This keybed has no aftertouch, but can be triggered by another keybed with poly or regular aftertouch

    • @CharlesFerraro
      @CharlesFerraro 5 лет назад +2

      Totally different synthesis.

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 5 лет назад +1

      @@CharlesFerraro Yeah, it's pretty easy to confuse wavetable synthesis and this wavestation thing.

    • @CharlesFerraro
      @CharlesFerraro 5 лет назад

      @@mikeexits Well in ways the two methods can be pretty similar. I do a technical deep dive somewhere on my channel into how granular, wave sequencing, and wavetables can be pretty similar!

  • @Ardspans
    @Ardspans 5 лет назад +1

    Another excellent overview Mr.Loopop. You knocked it out of the park with this one. I love what Korg have done with this. I’ve always been a fan of the original wavestation but this takes it to a whole new level -and then some. It would make a perfect companion to my Korg minilogue xd. Well done

  • @atommachine
    @atommachine 5 лет назад +5

    Im shinning shoes at weekends for this :)

    • @axi0n
      @axi0n 5 лет назад

      Nice. Now go get your fucking shinebox!

  • @efnbrg
    @efnbrg 3 года назад

    This is one of those “but wait, there’s more…” synths. Thanks for a great tutorial 👍

  • @BIG_PASTA
    @BIG_PASTA 5 лет назад +9

    I just bought a Minilogue xd and when I saw this video thumbnail, not knowing what it was yet, I immediately got scared and thought "nooooo!". I was thinking I would want this instead... upon watching this video I'm thinking "nope, I'm definitely good with the xd" :)

    • @MrBothandNether
      @MrBothandNether 5 лет назад +1

      this unit has no aftertouch, so I'm hoping for a module.

    • @sacredgeometry
      @sacredgeometry 5 лет назад +3

      They are very different synths. The minilogue is more for basic bread and butter synth sounds, this is for more convoluted and evolving textural sounds.

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 5 лет назад +3

      @@MrBothandNether It supports aftertouch over MIDI. You could connect a Keystep to it and have aftertouch.

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 5 лет назад

      @@sacredgeometry I'd say it can do a lot more than the "bread and butter" stuff, especially with the custom oscillator section. Also, love your name. :)

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 5 лет назад +6

      "The best gear is the gear you already own."
      - Oscillator Sink

  • @erimahmet4461
    @erimahmet4461 4 года назад +2

    This synth just sounds so beautiful

  • @fortheloveofnoise
    @fortheloveofnoise 5 лет назад +7

    5:20....that tone reminds me of the very beginning of: Unreal - Eastern Temple

  • @thomasdavis8722
    @thomasdavis8722 5 лет назад +1

    THANK YOU i was looking for a nice detailed vid about this synth that covered all the features, and yours was perfect. There were a lot of controls and knobs and things i didnt know what they were. But now i can make a fully educated decision on whether or not to get this absolute beast.

  • @MrBothandNether
    @MrBothandNether 5 лет назад +4

    I don't have room for a keybed that doesn't have aftertouch on it.
    Hoping that there is a desktop model, at some point.

    • @BlisterHiker
      @BlisterHiker 3 года назад

      I totally agree.
      I am still waiting for desktop... The 61-key version will be expensive, but that is what Korg should have been doing all the time: desktops and fully functional 61-key AT versions instead of those crippled 37-keys in Opsix, Wavestate or minilogue xd. At least they did minilogue xd desktop.

  • @tonysharp1615
    @tonysharp1615 3 года назад

    Outstanding review as always. When I have doubts about purchasing a synth, your reviews are a deciding factor. In this case, I’m ordering a Wavestate now and I suspect I’ll be referring to this review again once it arrives. Many thanks for your hard work, it’s much appreciated.

  • @AfterNothingsEnd
    @AfterNothingsEnd 5 лет назад +50

    At first I was hooked. But then I was like I have the wavestation app on my iPad that I never use.

    • @CO5MA
      @CO5MA 5 лет назад +16

      After Nothings End Because it was an App and not an hardware synth.

    • @AfterNothingsEnd
      @AfterNothingsEnd 5 лет назад +12

      CO5MA You should check out some of the iOS apps out there. You’d be surprised how great some of them sound.
      Although, I always find hardware feels and sounds better, but isn’t this digital, “software in a box”? The $800 price point surprised me, I was expecting around the $650 price point. I preordered mine, but wasn’t given a ship date.

    • @CO5MA
      @CO5MA 5 лет назад +14

      After Nothings End I have tons of hardware synths and tons of VST/Apps on my MacBook and iPad. But at the end of the day, when i need/want instant fun, I only use my hardware synths or my modular. I love Falcon, Omnisphere, Dexed, Animoog, Korg Gadget... but I could not live without my Waldorf Quantum or my Elektron Digitone :)

    • @TheSynthZone
      @TheSynthZone 5 лет назад +10

      Well, if you have a 500 dollar sound card and a 1.5 k computer you can make a 50 dollar program rock your world. Or just buy a piece of gear and have at it. I love choices.

    • @valdiskrebs566
      @valdiskrebs566 5 лет назад +8

      AUM and many iOS great synth apps allows you to construct 4,6,8-part multi-timbral synths/arps/seqs. But hardware is always more fun - turning real knobs is much easier.

  • @athenachristinemusic
    @athenachristinemusic 5 лет назад +2

    I personally enjoy the lush, simpler tones out of this particular machine. But in general it’s just all gorgeous no matter how you mix it up.

  • @Glokta09
    @Glokta09 4 года назад +25

    This is basically a Berlin Schooler's or Steve Reich fan's dream come true it looks like...

    • @TheSynthZone
      @TheSynthZone 4 года назад

      More likely Steve's nightmare. He once swore off of soft synths and non analog gear because he forsaw people grabbing a program or machine and making inroads....his sales not too high lately, I enjoy the personal feel of his attitude and sound. I want to emulate his stuff a bit, must admit. No one has a strangle hold on a sound anymore, very personal. I like my own as well as certain others? Allrighty then!

  • @von_Apa
    @von_Apa 4 года назад

    It’s a really good tutorial for people who already are advanced tech people. For a musician without earlier experience it’s like most RUclips tutorials - a slap in the face. The problem is that the performer knows it all and the reciever don’t know anything. 👨‍🎓🎶

    • @loopop
      @loopop  4 года назад +1

      You do need to know synth basics before watching a review about an advanced synth like this, but you certainly should not see that as a slap in the face

    • @von_Apa
      @von_Apa 4 года назад +1

      loopop I’m sorry, I didn’t feel that way myself. But I have had that feeling during some years when I have tried so hard from 0 knowledge to grasp a home studio and now I start to understand better. But it would be great with different levels on tutorials in general. From beginners to pro. So many musicians get their own home studio now and most tutorials are for advanced users. That was my point of view! I will watch your very good tutorial over and over until I can control my new instrument. Finally - Thank’s for sharing! 👍🎧🎶❤️

  • @jc3drums916
    @jc3drums916 5 лет назад +2

    This synth looks incredible, a monster for pads and evolving sounds, but I worry it will be overhwelming - too many options, menu diving, etc. - I don't know if I'd have the patience for it.

  • @BobMcCarroll
    @BobMcCarroll 4 года назад

    Watched it again and got even more out of it than the first time. Thanks again. Great stuff.

  • @James-ip1tc
    @James-ip1tc 5 лет назад +5

    what does it cost?

    • @powermix24
      @powermix24 5 лет назад

      799

    • @sonarfreq
      @sonarfreq 5 лет назад

      Looks like the RRP will be £699 in UK.

  • @petervandewoestijne9371
    @petervandewoestijne9371 4 года назад

    as usual a very good review with depth analysis. Did pre order one after this one. Please continue this way of review, very much value and worth while viewing

  • @jona_KardCiv1
    @jona_KardCiv1 5 лет назад +48

    I hope they do a desktop version of this.

    • @strangersun7721
      @strangersun7721 5 лет назад +9

      Same here. I want this hardware and workflow, but I need another keyboard in my studio like I need an extra hole in my head.

    • @starwars007oele
      @starwars007oele 5 лет назад +2

      Yes who wants 20 keyboards in his studio!

    • @lordundhimself1310
      @lordundhimself1310 5 лет назад

      @@starwars007oele 🤚🏾

    • @matokun79
      @matokun79 5 лет назад +3

      Hakuna Matata me, I wish even more 😅😝

    • @absolute0815
      @absolute0815 5 лет назад

      Hakuna Matata meee!so i could play everyone immitialy and „together“(robotarm upgrade😁)

  • @mailman108
    @mailman108 3 года назад

    This review was so good Holy how. I gotta re-watch it probably several times. And I probably will

  • @vinylarchaeologist
    @vinylarchaeologist 5 лет назад +6

    8:11 So this is the synth they do all those *NEWS ALERT* music with. I see.

  • @ReasonedWhistle
    @ReasonedWhistle 5 лет назад +1

    Great start of 2020 with new Korg synth and loopop review