When I was a young teenager (1990) I dreamed of the day you could make a hard disk that looked like ram that you hook to to one of those slots on the pc and it would be super duper fast. I even asked a man at some computer store about this. I was laughed out the store. He said: "They don't even use that in Star trek or Star Wars, how could that even be possible in the next 20 years?" I wish I could see his face now.
BIOS: The old terminal style blue and yellow text that only uses the keyboard. UEFI: A GUI or Graphical User interface. Simply a BIOS with pictures and support for computer mice
GB is not the same as Gb - When expressing gigabits please use the lower case b for 'bit' instead of 'B' for 'byte'. EDIT: It's already corrected with an annotation, do not reply "He fixed it"
Uh... He did. EDIT: Never mind. Either way, he obviously knows this (really not sure why you felt the need to explain it to him) and it was just an editing error (and he doesn't edit the videos himself).
TheDevilFrog You realize that a lot of the things Linus does was made to be double meaning right? They discussed this in a live stream. Tech "quickie", Fast as Possible (FAP), and I believe one or two others. They actually went out of thier way to find something clever.
I have no idea why the RUclips algorithm recommended this video to me. I bought an X99 mainboard about 10 years ago so I could have SATA Express support in the hopes that I would see future devices using it. Instead, it became obsolete, only to be replaced with system boards with numerous M.2 slots. I suppose they call it "Bleeding edge" for a reason.
That's just a simple concept. Like buying extra food to last you another week. In this case, more power/speed/capacity than you already need like when you get an i7 so you won't need to upgrade for another 3 years or if you get a 6TB hard drive so you don't run in the future
Wawaweewa Rice I know what it is, but I was expecting a more.. complete analysis. A guide to future proofing, advantages, disadvantages, how to do it properly, is it worth it? etc.
SidheKnight From what I know about the subject future proofing seems to be a nice time saver, but you are going to have to pay more for it. Buying high end components when they first come out is gonna have a hefty price premium, it's usually best to buy parts in the "sweet spot" range around 150 - 250 dollars (I don't know where u live or what currency you use, but I'm sure you know the sweet spot in your currency). This USUALLY gets you the best bang for your buck and most of the time lasts a few years depending on your expectations, and will certainly outlast a couple generations of consoles if you plan on using your pc to game. Hope this helps a little.
Get a computer, save up, buy upgrades. Future proof. Honestly you can't future proof your stuff much. You could buy a top of the line computer today and it would be slow in comparison in 5-10 years.
Graphics on screen: 2:33 1GBps and 4GBps refer to 1GigaByte per second and 4GigaByte per second Mean while @ 0:24 SATAIII 6GBps is supposed to mean 6Gigabit per second Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy.
Mutant Baby You're not just a grammar nazi, you're a bit nazi! Anyone with the slightest knowledge of SATA knows what it means.. 600MB/s 600mb/s it doesn't matter..
You're likely confusing people, please annotate and describe data rates correctly. The upper/lower case of the "B" is important. MBps = MegaBYTES per second (8 bits per byte), and Mbps = MegaBITS per second... There is a vast difference between the two. 1 Megabyte = 8 Megabits...
LinusTechTips who ccurrently edits these techquickie videos. Many subtle clever improvements than past like difficult word meanings and timetotime additional text on screen to complement linus. Kudos .... Keep up the awesome work LMG ppl..
Linus, since we're moving towards SSDs as being ubiquitous for everything, and slowly phasing out magnetic drives, how about an episode on the reliability of modern SSDs, and are they comparable to the reliability of hard drives? I ask this from the perspective of someone who just had a 32GB sd card fail after four years of use, and also from the perspective of someone who had to RMA their brand new 2TB hard drive. If we're going to move towards SSDs, I would hope we have solved the problem of limited writes that is a guarantee that solid state memory solutions will fail.
LogicOwl | Let's Plays I'd say that anything is guaranteed to fail eventually. The magnetic head of the HDD will eventually wear out and modern SSDs are rated in the hundreds of TBs writes if I am not mistaken-SSDs can actually last into the /Petabyte/ range. This is an insanely high number that no normal person would ever get to until after quite a few years. Extreme stress tests were done on six SSDs, constantly being filled to the brim with data and then being erased, only to repeat the process over and over without a single break 24/7. These suckers lasted well beyond any normal person's usage. Here's the test: techreport.com/review/27062/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-only-two-remain-after-1-5pb
Hey Linus, How about a techquicke on gaming or using a monitor at its non native resolution ? I'd really love to know more on this topic. Keep up the good work.
Hi Linus, there actually are some (non Standard consumer) Sata Express SSDs available (if you have the Gold pooping donkey in your Yard). Just take a look at the *Intel SSD DC P3700*, a real Overkill, 40Gb/s Buswidth, read: 2800MB/s, write: 1900MB/s and it only costs 6000,- Euros.
Those exerpts from the dictionary were both hilarious and actually helpful, since english is my sexond language! :-D Please keep doing that! Love your channel btw :)
I think you should point out that M.2 can be either SATA or PCIe based. SATA express and PCIe 2x are about the same (theoretical 10 GB/s) but PCIe 4x blows 'em away (NEED PCIe 4x M.2 CAPABLE MOBO AND SSD).
I wouldn't worry about the 960, get in on a cheap 970 deal. The MSI 970 4G is dropping, and it's great. One or two 970's single or SLI is enough for 1080p and 1440p by far. Mine are overclocked past Titan X so not bad for $600 some.
linus PLEASE make a video about home networking under $1000. for those of us that want to centralize our media but dont want to spend $3000 on a FreeNAS that would just be used for media sharing.
At the end where Linus says "Leave a suggestion for a future AFAP" and I thought he was going to say "Leave a suggestion for a new storage technology" and I almost wrote "sperm drives" in the comments
***** in different settings you get different speeds so i dont see the point of assuming something is 600megabytes when theoretically it is 750megabytes under the right conditions.
Brick Tamland kind of like how most 32bit systems support less than the theoretical maximum of 4gb ram, or how SSDs usually get less than the theoretical maximum listest speeds
768 MegaBytes = 6 GigaBits. But no it doesn't matter in consumer standards since people only divide by 1000 and divide by 10 instead of dividing by 1024 and 8.
6Gbps equals 600MB/s because SATA uses what's known as 8/10b encoding. Basically this means that for every 8bits of usable data that is sent along a SATA connection an extra 2 bits are used for error correction. So when you take out that overhead, you end up with real world speeds closer to 600MB/s instead of the ~750MB/s.
They need to find a way to connect a standard SSD to a PCI-e slot. Find the optimal amount of lanes, most likely a minimum of 4x, and just make cable. I know, it's harder than "just make it", but we need to find a way to make it affordable. Take that SSD that plugs in directly and make it a cable.
Did I miss something or did they never actually show the sata express connector or port??? To me this is vital to understanding/recognizing sata express.
I just wish that the SAS standard (which is already compatible with SATA) would just win and totally subsume the SATA standard. That way, we can use a much better standard for "legacy" devices such as HDDs, Optical Drives, etc. The M.2 connector, I know uses a pin for SATA Express, but it would be far better and more flexible if it used SAS.
Try to cover something about video games like this: Why do new PC games (all low settings) require more PC power/performance than some old games (all high settings) even though the old ones look much better on high settings than the new ones do on low settings. Thanks Linus keep these videos coming :D Cheers.
Techquickie How about a video on SATA Controllers, like LSI's SandForce controllers? Or maybe just controllers in general? They can impact performance in a big way as well, and be a potential bottleneck that keeps PCI-Express SSDs from going much further beyond 1GBps (right now).
haha when Linus asks " how do I get my hands on SATA express " he quickly cuts to an ASUS Z97 PRO GAMER, and goes on to say that it has SATA-E :D so proud that my mobo is finally famous :D however we can't buy compatible drives yet :D
0:48 yes i remember those... not even 6 months ago i thought that was standard current hdd cables, and that you would need some sort of overpriced conversion device + one of those to run a harddrive to usb..
It’s nice to watch this in hindsight. SATA express never took off and it’s now a dead standard with no SSDs supporting it
I like how you guys now display the "not so common words" with their definition, that's awesome. Great Videos guys.
all them speeds, and i'm still using a 7200 rpm HDD
Keepo
And I'm using 7200MB/s speeds (my RAM)
5400 RPM here!
I'm using a 3 rpm ssd
Wawaweewa Rice Err... Share?
When I was a young teenager (1990) I dreamed of the day you could make a hard disk that looked like ram that you hook to to one of those slots on the pc and it would be super duper fast.
I even asked a man at some computer store about this.
I was laughed out the store. He said: "They don't even use that in Star trek or Star Wars, how could that even be possible in the next 20 years?"
I wish I could see his face now.
Can you talk about the 'raspberry pi'?
BIOS vs. UEFI
PLEASE!
I´m asking for this for a while now and I think it would be interesting to know which advantages UEFI has over the old BIOS
I could really go for an explanation of this too!
google it
Same I need that
BIOS: The old terminal style blue and yellow text that only uses the keyboard.
UEFI: A GUI or Graphical User interface. Simply a BIOS with pictures and support for computer mice
Ease of use.... thats all.... shit like being able to use your mouse in it.... its still a bios...
Gotta love those preformance gains.
+InfinityCraft Came here for this
GB is not the same as Gb - When expressing gigabits please use the lower case b for 'bit' instead of 'B' for 'byte'.
EDIT: It's already corrected with an annotation, do not reply "He fixed it"
never
Goats are mammals. Please do not wait for goats to lay eggs.
I just so happen to have a 25MB/S internet and a 120Gb SSD
DrToiletface 11/10. Would read again.
Uh... He did.
EDIT: Never mind. Either way, he obviously knows this (really not sure why you felt the need to explain it to him) and it was just an editing error (and he doesn't edit the videos himself).
When I first read the title, I though it said Santa Express, not SATA Express.
wow, i laughed. ha. ha. ha.
Kapek Five Sorry, I dont like calla dooty gamers. Its shit compared to my tripple A CS titles
I trid to rekurd TF9000, but i had prublums sury Mah lord.
LOL
Wawaweewa Rice Dunt you lol to our lurd.
Sata Express: We are fastest!
NVMe M.2: aM i A jOkE tO yOu?1!ß
wow!! this guy started RUclips channel in 2012, and already has 2 million subs. Great job Linus.
I just disassembled my dad's old PC, and now I know what those flat grey cables are!
Make a F.A.P (Fast as Possible) about low end GPU's/CPU's
lol that name
they are used for displaying am image on your monitor. Bam done, there is nothing else ot it
TheDevilFrog
You realize that a lot of the things Linus does was made to be double meaning right? They discussed this in a live stream. Tech "quickie", Fast as Possible (FAP), and I believe one or two others. They actually went out of thier way to find something clever.
sniperlif3 WAN Show is another one! (sounds similar to WANG)
no! no! nonono! noooo!
This has compressed hours of dry website and wiki readings into a faster and less dry medium. You have earned my subscription.
Did someone hit the microphone at 4:09 or is it my speaker?
Someone hit the mic.
SirCatnip someone (Linus) hit the mic. often...
Lord GabeN Thank you, oh Lord Gaben!
Lord GabeN Its Holy GabeN himself, so it must be true!
It sounds more like a deliberate sound effect to me.
I came here from the AHCI as fast as possible video by clicking the information card every time until I ended up here
I have no idea why the RUclips algorithm recommended this video to me. I bought an X99 mainboard about 10 years ago so I could have SATA Express support in the hopes that I would see future devices using it. Instead, it became obsolete, only to be replaced with system boards with numerous M.2 slots. I suppose they call it "Bleeding edge" for a reason.
Hey Linus, would you make a video about future-proofing?
(Sorry if this is the wrong channel)
That's just a simple concept. Like buying extra food to last you another week. In this case, more power/speed/capacity than you already need like when you get an i7 so you won't need to upgrade for another 3 years or if you get a 6TB hard drive so you don't run in the future
Wawaweewa Rice I know what it is, but I was expecting a more.. complete analysis. A guide to future proofing, advantages, disadvantages, how to do it properly, is it worth it? etc.
SidheKnight From what I know about the subject future proofing seems to be a nice time saver, but you are going to have to pay more for it. Buying high end components when they first come out is gonna have a hefty price premium, it's usually best to buy parts in the "sweet spot" range around 150 - 250 dollars (I don't know where u live or what currency you use, but I'm sure you know the sweet spot in your currency). This USUALLY gets you the best bang for your buck and most of the time lasts a few years depending on your expectations, and will certainly outlast a couple generations of consoles if you plan on using your pc to game. Hope this helps a little.
Get a computer, save up, buy upgrades. Future proof.
Honestly you can't future proof your stuff much. You could buy a top of the line computer today and it would be slow in comparison in 5-10 years.
He's said in the past that he doesn't like the term.
hey linus! love ur vids!
that username though...
hey his space bar is working :3 to bad it want working when he put his username in.
becausei'mjustcuriousandIwantedtoknowifyouweregoingtomentionhowmanyfartsdidyousmellbeforeyouendedsuchalongusername.
Angel Luis Trinidad about 3.
Angel Luis Trinidad i think you meant entered not ended.
Graphics on screen:
2:33 1GBps and 4GBps refer to 1GigaByte per second and 4GigaByte per second
Mean while @ 0:24 SATAIII 6GBps is supposed to mean 6Gigabit per second
Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy.
Dude in reality SATA 3 does not get 6 Gigabits pers second. So 600 mb/s is what you actually get.
alex clanton "600 mb/s"
lulz
alex clanton "600 mb/s " so 600 millibit/second?
alex clanton 1 gigaBITs per second= 125 megaBYTES per second. There fore 6 gigaBITs per second = is around 600 megaBYTES per second.
Mutant Baby You're not just a grammar nazi, you're a bit nazi!
Anyone with the slightest knowledge of SATA knows what it means.. 600MB/s 600mb/s it doesn't matter..
I like the way you used the song "Televisor- Old Skool" when it was history time.
LOL, watching this in July 2018! SATA Express was dead on arrival and M.2 and U.2 are the dominant high-speed storage interfaces.
When Linus drops the mad vocabulary. Superfluous. My new favourite word. Thanks Linus!
You're likely confusing people, please annotate and describe data rates correctly. The upper/lower case of the "B" is important. MBps = MegaBYTES per second (8 bits per byte), and Mbps = MegaBITS per second... There is a vast difference between the two. 1 Megabyte = 8 Megabits...
One of the only reasons I clicked on this video was because the thumbnail was Linus wearing a hat.
Linus, is that a Faze Clan shirt?
LinusTechTips- Sponsored by FaZe
No it's Five Four Club: www.fivefourclothing.com/
ClonesDream u w0t m85
1v1 me scrub
I wrekt u in cod of duti modrn op 2
psn is xXx_illuminate420blaz360noquikskpeDoritz_xXx
Simon Fujino Ouch, I'm sorry that you have to use a console. :'(
I don't even own a Play station lol
LinusTechTips who ccurrently edits these techquickie videos. Many subtle clever improvements than past like difficult word meanings and timetotime additional text on screen to complement linus. Kudos .... Keep up the awesome work LMG ppl..
Linus, since we're moving towards SSDs as being ubiquitous for everything, and slowly phasing out magnetic drives, how about an episode on the reliability of modern SSDs, and are they comparable to the reliability of hard drives? I ask this from the perspective of someone who just had a 32GB sd card fail after four years of use, and also from the perspective of someone who had to RMA their brand new 2TB hard drive. If we're going to move towards SSDs, I would hope we have solved the problem of limited writes that is a guarantee that solid state memory solutions will fail.
LogicOwl | Let's Plays I'd say that anything is guaranteed to fail eventually. The magnetic head of the HDD will eventually wear out and modern SSDs are rated in the hundreds of TBs writes if I am not mistaken-SSDs can actually last into the /Petabyte/ range. This is an insanely high number that no normal person would ever get to until after quite a few years. Extreme stress tests were done on six SSDs, constantly being filled to the brim with data and then being erased, only to repeat the process over and over without a single break 24/7. These suckers lasted well beyond any normal person's usage.
Here's the test: techreport.com/review/27062/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-only-two-remain-after-1-5pb
love the, "a lot more juice" graphic
I got so hyped (because I'm looking for a SSD right now) because of the SATA express cable...and then it's like "nope, you can't have it" :(
Wow, almost all comments here are 5 years ago and mostly hopping for SSD. I feel like reading the past.
Where are all the SATA Express drives now?
implement a Linus Breath Counter PLEASE!!!
3:20 its a good time to watch this video at 2021 lmao
I always learn something new when I watch Techquickie. :)
The fact that you throw in a wide vocabulary of words and have the meaning and correct pronunciation makes me very happy, :D:D:D
I thought this video was about the SANTA Express :( I'm disappointed.
2:25 PREformance gains lul
PATA, where legendary cable managers were born.
Hey Linus,
How about a techquicke on gaming or using a monitor at its non native resolution ?
I'd really love to know more on this topic.
Keep up the good work.
3 years later. Still no drives
Hi Linus, there actually are some (non Standard consumer) Sata Express SSDs available (if you have the Gold pooping donkey in your Yard). Just take a look at the *Intel SSD DC P3700*, a real Overkill, 40Gb/s Buswidth, read: 2800MB/s, write: 1900MB/s and it only costs 6000,- Euros.
a good upgrade for servers which stores files: "Upload & Download"
There is so much to learn and you 'as fast as possible's do the trick! I can just keep on watching and answering my questions!
I searched for the term yesterday and today there is a video about it, am feeling lucky.
>Might remember these from your parents computers.
>2003
Oh boy.
I love that hat ya got there Linus
Preformance gains
I think different types of Transistors as Fast As Possible would be a good episode
PATA is also called IDE
Those exerpts from the dictionary were both hilarious and actually helpful, since english is my sexond language! :-D Please keep doing that! Love your channel btw :)
With all the fitness references in this AFAP, I think its about time for a Linus Media Group/ BroScienceLife crossover
I think you should point out that M.2 can be either SATA or PCIe based. SATA express and PCIe 2x are about the same (theoretical 10 GB/s) but PCIe 4x blows 'em away (NEED PCIe 4x M.2 CAPABLE MOBO AND SSD).
Wow this comment section is as dead as Sata express
m.2 nvme wins😅
Needs more egg
That's eggzakly what it needs.
Justin Villa wow. just laughe my egg off.
Justin Villa Oh eggscelent guys!
I give you 5/5 neweggs
Guys these are some Eggcellent puns. I hope you guys are Eggcitied for the CES coverage.
Speed is one thing. I pray the NVME SSDs come with standard Power Loss Protection as seen in SATA models
The Lynda.com logo reminds me of a mix between Jane Lane and Daria Morgendorfer.
I have a 60gb kingston SATA SSD and I love it !
Super Resolution as Fast As Possible
Go ahead for QHD, Full HD and UHD
I wouldn't worry about the 960, get in on a cheap 970 deal. The MSI 970 4G is dropping, and it's great. One or two 970's single or SLI is enough for 1080p and 1440p by far. Mine are overclocked past Titan X so not bad for $600 some.
I like the popups in top left corner xD
next level hand gestures
Linus getting them unibrow ???
linus PLEASE make a video about home networking under $1000. for those of us that want to centralize our media but dont want to spend $3000 on a FreeNAS that would just be used for media sharing.
At the end where Linus says "Leave a suggestion for a future AFAP" and I thought he was going to say "Leave a suggestion for a new storage technology" and I almost wrote "sperm drives" in the comments
Snap, crackle, pop!
Showing the meaning of words used in the videos which a average "might" not know is really convenient.
soundboard setup as Fast As Possible
linus, how is sata 6gigabit translated to 600megabytes? doesn't 750megabytes = 6gigabits and 375megabytes = 3gigabits?
lel, Nerd
***** in different settings you get different speeds so i dont see the point of assuming something is 600megabytes when theoretically it is 750megabytes under the right conditions.
Brick Tamland kind of like how most 32bit systems support less than the theoretical maximum of 4gb ram, or how SSDs usually get less than the theoretical maximum listest speeds
768 MegaBytes = 6 GigaBits. But no it doesn't matter in consumer standards since people only divide by 1000 and divide by 10 instead of dividing by 1024 and 8.
6Gbps equals 600MB/s because SATA uses what's known as 8/10b encoding. Basically this means that for every 8bits of usable data that is sent along a SATA connection an extra 2 bits are used for error correction. So when you take out that overhead, you end up with real world speeds closer to 600MB/s instead of the ~750MB/s.
4:09 was my favorite part of this vide, Linus. haha! Someone make a .gif out of it.
Old Skool by televisor, not a bad choice 0:33.
2:22 "PREformance gains"?
0:22 Linus said 6 Gigabit per second but it's GigaByte (he corrected himself later in the video).
Linus: And a second is NVME
Me: M.E.M.E?
2:23 Preformance gains :)
They need to find a way to connect a standard SSD to a PCI-e slot. Find the optimal amount of lanes, most likely a minimum of 4x, and just make cable. I know, it's harder than "just make it", but we need to find a way to make it affordable. Take that SSD that plugs in directly and make it a cable.
Did I miss something or did they never actually show the sata express connector or port??? To me this is vital to understanding/recognizing sata express.
I just wish that the SAS standard (which is already compatible with SATA) would just win and totally subsume the SATA standard. That way, we can use a much better standard for "legacy" devices such as HDDs, Optical Drives, etc. The M.2 connector, I know uses a pin for SATA Express, but it would be far better and more flexible if it used SAS.
Your videos are really entertaining... :)
1:50 Wait a second, that's a PCI-slot - not a SATA Express-slot.
Clin9289 yea, if only you watched another 5 seconds before you commented.
2:21 'Preformance gains?'
Come on Linus, don't get sloppy now.
Lynda seems really bored
Lynda? bruh XD
the thumbnail made me think this video was a totalbiscuit video at first glance
It would be interesting to see a "Memes as fast as possible" So I can show it to my parents and grandparents. haha.
Is it weird that I actually look forward to the sponsored spot sections in these techquickies now? :/
Your videos are the best
Try to cover something about video games like this: Why do new PC games (all low settings) require more PC power/performance than some old games (all high settings) even though the old ones look much better on high settings than the new ones do on low settings.
Thanks Linus keep these videos coming :D
Cheers.
I think everyone's parents had a Packard bell. Always a dull grey colour.
Great video and good explanation.
Thank you for the explanation.
Awesome video.
Techquickie How about a video on SATA Controllers, like LSI's SandForce controllers? Or maybe just controllers in general? They can impact performance in a big way as well, and be a potential bottleneck that keeps PCI-Express SSDs from going much further beyond 1GBps (right now).
haha when Linus asks " how do I get my hands on SATA express " he quickly cuts to an ASUS Z97 PRO GAMER, and goes on to say that it has SATA-E :D so proud that my mobo is finally famous :D however we can't buy compatible drives yet :D
Naturo vs luffy FAST AS POSSIBLE LIKE IF U AGREE
+Vonsaker why linus tho
:))
:))
am I the only one that notice that you hiy the mic several times in this video? anywho nice informative video
4:24 really obvious spit haha
One sec Linus! Asus has a "Hyper Express" box that can house 2 M.2 drives and 2 mSATA drives. It fits in a 2.5" Drive bay and uses SATA Express
I remember those PATA cables!
0:48 yes i remember those... not even 6 months ago i thought that was standard current hdd cables, and that you would need some sort of overpriced conversion device + one of those to run a harddrive to usb..