Working over apple trees, result of brutal pruning
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2012
- These Bramley apple trees were growing and cropping well but we could not sell the fruit profitably and as part of of long term plan for the orchard are converting them over to cider apple varieties. Last winter I pruned these apples very severely with the saw, the trees looked as if they would be killed but all 8 have put out new growth, some very strong. In this operation, I thin out the growth, leaving selected branches to form a balanced framework. In April 2013 I will graft these over to select varieties.
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Aha, i like your aggressive style of pruning & energetic commentary 🤣🍎
I've done nearly the same amount of pruning on apple trees, and regularly cut a bad grape vine down to a stump and start over. It certainly shocks people, but it's all good 😊
thank you, stephen, for making such a simple & easy to understand video, keep up the good work !
Your trees are beautiful and I love that you’ll be grafting onto the variety that you cut down.
Excellent info sir. Good to see your up & about on your feet.
nicely explained. I actually learn alot from all your videos.
It's nearing the end of winter in the great southern land and i've just planted your favourite apple Stephen. I must say it wasn't easy finding the Orleans Reinette, but pleased with the maiden whip. Extremely well rooted with a healthy year old graft. I also planted one each of Kidd's Orange Red, Nonpareil and Sturmer Pippin. Truly a matter of preference but the flavour, sugar and acids of these were exceptional when tasted at an apple festival, perhaps owing to our sun-blessed climate.
I moved into a house and a lemon tree in the back looks JUST like that. Its been almost a year with new branches/springs so ill see if it ever produces anything
I always hesitate to advise drastic treatment without seeing the tree. The purpose of these videos is to show rather than tell what i do, the camera does not lie.
If you have large fruit trees that have been badly neglected for a long time, I would counsel radical pruning but not as radical as you see here. Cut out maybe 60%, certainly remove diseased wood. Its hard to kill a tree by pruning.
2 years ago I posted some videos about restoring a neglected backyard orchard you may find helpful.
thanks very much for this much educational video
I see what I need to do now. I’ve gotta prune the middle straight branch down about three feet. I’d’ve never thought about doing that but I see how much better that it will grow and I don’t want it to get tall.
Interesting video my friend!!
If you're interested in some very rare old cider varieties, speak to Derek at Bernwode. Their collection is astonishing and includes the original Foxwhelp.
By the way, the Sturmer Pippin and the cider apple scions you sent me have all taken and are growing away nicely on M27s.
Take it easy.
A suggestion pertaining to ease of harvest .
Two branches trained horizontally in opposite directions would not only yield larger fruit but just as importantly make chest high harvest possible , no ladders required .
🤔 💭 Give one a go , I think you'll be pleased 😀👍
Super Video.Danke!
Thanks. Its not a pebbe, just that after 6 weeks on maximum downard felxion, it wasn't possible to manipulate the foot all the way back to neutral so the ankle is set partially flexed down. I'm pushing the limits here!
Do you have any recommendations on good and scab resistant/tolerant cider apples which ripe before 15th of October in England?
Hi stephen.was just watching rick steins food heroes and he was at winchester farmers market.i wondered while i watched if yourself would be on television as a subscriber to your channel i know you sell your produce st the venue.and there you and your wife was!..well done stephen!
I am watching this 8 and 1/2 years later, but have a very real dilemma with two apple trees in a house I have just bought. My decision is to cut hard back now (spring 2019) and graft on new shoots next year. In my country we have a heritage program, so grafting material should/maybe available. I have never tried this, any suggestions? I have not watched all your videos, is there one you could suggest?
Can I do this to a prune plum tree? I have problems with fungus knot and hole shot in an old tree I've inherited. Could I cut it off the same as your Bromleys and expect the same response from the tree? And then start again using the shoots?
What time of year to cut "brutal" cut apple tree please?
I have an old Apple Tree in my yard and it has no bark towards the base of the tree , but still has life on the top . How do I cover the big scar on the tree trunk ? I pruned it a couple of times year after year , so it’s been pruned two years !
Do you have any Reinette Simirenko apple trees? Can I use saplings grown from grocery store apple seeds for rootstocks?
Thank you, Stephen. I look at your videos constantly for pruning tips. I live in Athens, Georgia USA, and I bought six 3 yr old Bramley's last year, and planted them in the middle of my back garden. They are not in shade, but I do have a few very mature oaks around the edge of the garden which offer shade during the early morning and late afternoons. As it's quite hot during the summer's here I was wondering if you think I will be successful with these apples in this climate? Do they need an English climate to succeed?
The tiny fruit fell off my first year of planting, but I think that was normal as the branches were too thin to hold up any fruit. I do have a Fuji, a Cox Pippin, a Hewes Crab Apple, and an heirloom apple tree called The Mother as co-pollinators. Also, as the trees grew during the summer I noticed that the new leaf growth at the tip of the trees would curl up, go brown/dry out and drop off sometimes in clusters on the Bramley's and the Cox Pippin only. A few other leaves would turn a little yellow with rusty looking spots and drop also which I would remove immediately and dispose off far away from the trees just in case it was some kind of fungus. I watered twice a week and sprayed them with a sprinkler during the hottest part of the day in the brutal months of summer to keep them cool but I think they were suffering from sunburn if that's possible. It's now January, and we are now down in the 20's Fahrenheit and I am getting ready to prune them. The trees are still alive but wondering if I am babying these too much, and what can I do to help them get healthy and stronger in the future. Any advice would be appreciated.
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no and yes. However, saplings grown from seed will be unpredictable. In my view a bad way to save a very little money, if the stock raised from a pip proves bad, you will have wasted 5 years by tthe time you know. Is that a good way to save the price of half a pint of beer (at English prices)?
buy named root stocks from reputable suppliers. You can THEN save money by propagating from them as I have shown in videos, but I strongly advise you to start with stock of known quality
Would putting grafting wax or something over the cut help the tree at all?
Hi Stephen i got a few different trees including (apple-pear-walnuts-pomegranate ) 10 out of 57 in my back yard are infected with fire blight. my question is if i brutally prune the trees down to the main stem (50-60 cm from the ground) would i kill them or grow back. the trees are only 3 4 years old.
PS. i really like your videos and hope your leg gets better
thanks in advance
I’m not convinced he needs more cider trees! 😂
Hi Stephen, I really like your videos and have learned so much, which month do you recommend the pruning in order to get new shoots for grafting? Many Thanks, Nadeem
Well, I'm going to take the plunge. I have 4 old apple trees that are going to get converted to something better. I have no idea what type of apples they are. I'll pick one and do some serious pruning this spring with the hope of graphting some scion to it next year. Hope springs eternal.
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Please do a video on how to care for and maintain your snips. :)
Winter banana accepts pear
Hawthorne too
I'm confused. You are going to "convert" bramleys grafts into cider apples? How does that work?
Hi Stephen, First I want to say that I find your videos very informative. I have a problem and I was wondering if you could give me a suggestion. On a new plot of land I have four pear trees in a group about 20-30ft apart near an oak treeline. The pear trees do not look like they have been pruned in many years. They are between 20 and 40 feet tall and one of them is badly hollowed. Can I just brutally cut out the tall middles and prune the lower branches? I'm afraid I'll kill them.
40 foot high pear trees? XD
Can apple tree grow in asia climk? I have 4 tree apple growing from seed and 3year old now.
No such thing as an Asian climate. If you get cold/freezing winters then yes. If tropical climate then no. Apples grown from seed won't come true and the fruit is likely to be unpalatable and the tree huge. Don't waste your time caring for that seedling any further.
@@MultiKangaroo It's probable that the fruit won't be anything special but it is also possible that he is raising an interesting new variety. After all every variety we have was once a chance seedling, or a sport. If he's enjoying raising his seedling, he should continue with it. In general though you are right, he should plant known cultivars.
Yes you can graft a apple onto a pear ,as i have one in my garden, yes apple and pear on the same tree...........
Yes, he was wrong about that. Many Rosaceae species accept cross-genus grafts, but his point was to preempt questions about grafting apple scions on to plum stock, etc. I have seen people asking if they can graft apple on to oak!
How do you find your "family tree"? Is it productive, do you get good crops of both kinds of fruit?
Why they were cutted?
He says in the video, difficulty selling the fruit. Bramley is a cooking apple that is quite common and many people have trees. It is not uncommon to see cooking apples given away in suburban areas in the UK. The cider varieties he intended to graft on would be more reliably saleable as there's quite a demand for the fruit from cider producers. The price achieved would be relatively low but cider varieties tend to produce heavy crops.
He could have sold those cuttings on ebay.i would have bought them 😃
You don't raise apples from cuttings - usually. Scions for grafting are taken during dormancy, scions are grafted on to rootstocks with known qualities so that you know how large and vigorous the resulting tree is likely to be. Planting a cutting would be somewhat unpredictable, Bramley being a relatively recent variety we actually do know what form it takes on its own roots which is a large and rambling tree. However generally best to grow varieties on specific suitable rootstocks.