Thank you Mr Tardis - for your amazing content! As a gay man, and a human in 2023 I appreciate you reminding the world of how much shit is spewed and how articulately and intelligently you do it. It’s so appreciated and you are a good man ❤
Something that wasn't challenged, presumably because you weren't prepared to do any historical fact-checking, was their claim that great expectations was set (in 1839) 30 years after the abolition of slavery. The UK's slavery abolition act came into force in 1834, and outlined a _gradual_ abolition of slavery - which took many years to take full effect. Most slaves didn't even start to be freed until 1836, and the east india company was exempt. What they're presumably talking about is the abolition of the slave trade, which most major european powers outlawed at the beginning of the 1800s. It's notable that this was just a few years after the haitian revolution - the largest successful slave revolution in recorded history. Much of the motivation for abolishing the slave trade had a lot to do with preventing something like this from happening again - as importing new slaves from west africa, who had not always been slaves, risked spreading ideas of freedom among the existing slaves that were born into slavery and knew no better life. The reason they kept bringing up the royal navy is because the navy did in fact try to prevent slave ships from crossing the atlantic after the slave trade act in 1807 - it's extremely frustrating when nationalists try to paint this as some act of benevolence on the part of the british empire, and not simply because it was in the empire economic interests to prevent further imports - especially when they act as if this somehow absolves the british empire of its role in upholding slavery in the first place.
The UK right has some nerve importing the moral panic against drag here when Drag queens where a massive part of UK culture for decades without any issue and these same cretins just weeks ago where showing respect to the passing of Paul O'Grady. I remember on Saturday nights during the 1990s Blankety Blank used to be on TV with Lily Savage and it was considered family television.
@@MrTARDIS Russel needs to bring Jinx back A LOT more she is incredible, also fuck the Tories, fuck the right wing, fuck The Daily Wire, fuck Fox News, fuck Matt Walsh, fuck neo-Nazis, fuck homophobes, fuck transphobes, fuck ableist people (speaking as an autistic person here fuck Autism Speaks and fuck Sia for her movie Music a few years ago, no hate to the actress Maddie as she didn't want to be in the movie but fuck Sia for making the movie and forcing Maddie to be in that movie against her will)
@@MrTARDIS that's a lot of fucks I have to give sorry for venting on one of your videos but as I said autistic person here your videos are a comfort to me, also recovering alcoholic and addict watching your videos helps cheer me up when I feel close to a relapse, I dunno I just find your videos a source of comfort my dude, you're a good man you care about your viewers, you champion your viewers in a deeper way then just on the surface showing gratitude, it goes way further than that, that dedication to your fans and your support of your fans makes you one of my favorite RUclipsrs
If, back in the day, JNT had "stunt-casted" a drag celeb like Danny LaRue, Lily Savage or Edna Everage to appear in Doctor Who - the kind of thing he might well have done - I doubt it would have attracted anything like this level of (faux-)outrage. How ironic, then, that three decades later, in supposedly more enlightened times, some people are pissed off about the casting of Jinkx Monsoon. It's like we've gone backwards.
There are so many genuine issues in the world right now, but these Tories decide to focus their attention on a drag queen guest starring in an episode of a show that hasn't even come out yet, and they will no doubt not watch
It's 1966, the BBC is screening their prestigeous adaptation of Alice In Wonderland, written and directed by Jonathan Miller, among the cast -Leo Mckern as The Dutchess. Grow up people!
I know this is a month old but you're just so class at this. True debate team natural. How I managed to contend with you in a debate show absolutely alludes me. The idea of being on the receiving end of one of these incisive analysis videos chills me to the bone.
do they not understand that the character of jinxx monsoon is a woman, so she would obviously use she/they pronouns when in character??? Drag styles are also incredibly varied, they represent so many facets of femininity, some are hyperfeminine and some are completely gender nonconforming in their drag... neither are mocking women at all.
The BBC: **has one soap character who happens to moonlight as a drag performer, UK broadcasting rights to a reality game show involving drag, and a drag performer made famous by said game show soon to be guest-appearing in their flagship sci-fi drama (a genre known for being progressive)** Kevin O'Sullivan: "Whoa, slow down -- don't you think you're doing too much, too quickly?!"
23:37 I don’t think Kevin O’Sullivan has read it. Not that I’m saying he’s wrong about its contents (I haven’t read it) but Kevin doesn’t strike me as a voracious reader.
Michael Grade has worked with every main UK broadcaster - BBC, ITV and Channel 4, so no surprise to me that he was appointed to Ofcom. To be fair to Michael, I have listened to some things he said, and he is no rabid, foaming at the mouth right wing tory. He is your stereotypical centrist tory, wanting to keep the status quo.
@@seankelly8432 Yeah. His excuse on Top Gear was along the lines of: “I seen Star Wars, E.T., Star Trek and Doctor Who was rubbish compared to them” despite all three would be considered “woke”, if they were released today.
I get that, but it's still really iffy for the Conservative Government full of scandals to install a regulatory chairman at around the same time new Conservative/Fake-News outlets are being established in the UK.
I wish I could formulate sentences and arguments as well as you when discussing these types of topics when annoying hard right wing people bring it up 😂
@@Tolstoy111 Doctor Who is queer in parts: the first director back in 63, showrunners back in the 80s and 2000s + one is returning this year, multiple LGBTQ+ characters in said show since 2005.
What do you mean by "queering the imagination"? Because I watched Mrs Doubtfire as a kid, watched "authentic" Shakespeare productions and such and I was never "queered".
@@MrTARDIS Again I didn't say that men dressed up as women is always that. As noted, it's been around forever. But the current trend to overtly sexual adult performers reading for kids and being around kids has to do with Drag Pedagogy. Google it. I posted a link earlier but it was removed.
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All this outrage over what will almost certainly be a one episode guest role for the musical is hilarious.
Russell should definitely bring her back fuck the Tories, fuck the right wing, fuck neo-nazis
Laughing at all the bigots who thought RTD was gonna "save" Doctor Who from wokeness....
It's like they've never actually seen his first era. Or any of his other shows, or literally any about the man
"I have nothing against drag queens but..." Aaaaannd there we go, enough said with the but.
Thank you Mr Tardis - for your amazing content! As a gay man, and a human in 2023 I appreciate you reminding the world of how much shit is spewed and how articulately and intelligently you do it. It’s so appreciated and you are a good man ❤
Is Kevin okay? He looks like he’s rotting away. I suppose pretending to be angry 24/7 really does stuff to you.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug my friend
Something that wasn't challenged, presumably because you weren't prepared to do any historical fact-checking, was their claim that great expectations was set (in 1839) 30 years after the abolition of slavery. The UK's slavery abolition act came into force in 1834, and outlined a _gradual_ abolition of slavery - which took many years to take full effect. Most slaves didn't even start to be freed until 1836, and the east india company was exempt. What they're presumably talking about is the abolition of the slave trade, which most major european powers outlawed at the beginning of the 1800s. It's notable that this was just a few years after the haitian revolution - the largest successful slave revolution in recorded history. Much of the motivation for abolishing the slave trade had a lot to do with preventing something like this from happening again - as importing new slaves from west africa, who had not always been slaves, risked spreading ideas of freedom among the existing slaves that were born into slavery and knew no better life.
The reason they kept bringing up the royal navy is because the navy did in fact try to prevent slave ships from crossing the atlantic after the slave trade act in 1807 - it's extremely frustrating when nationalists try to paint this as some act of benevolence on the part of the british empire, and not simply because it was in the empire economic interests to prevent further imports - especially when they act as if this somehow absolves the british empire of its role in upholding slavery in the first place.
The UK right has some nerve importing the moral panic against drag here when Drag queens where a massive part of UK culture for decades without any issue and these same cretins just weeks ago where showing respect to the passing of Paul O'Grady.
I remember on Saturday nights during the 1990s Blankety Blank used to be on TV with Lily Savage and it was considered family television.
also, have they never been to a panto before??? Drag has been part of the entertainment industries for literal centuries...
I kind of laughed when dude just rolled up like “yeah I really don’t like drag lmao”, just so openly coming out with the dodgy stuff
P.S the world needs more drag and not less 🎉
Why?
@@Tolstoy111 it's fabulous.
@@MrTARDIS Russel needs to bring Jinx back A LOT more she is incredible, also fuck the Tories, fuck the right wing, fuck The Daily Wire, fuck Fox News, fuck Matt Walsh, fuck neo-Nazis, fuck homophobes, fuck transphobes, fuck ableist people (speaking as an autistic person here fuck Autism Speaks and fuck Sia for her movie Music a few years ago, no hate to the actress Maddie as she didn't want to be in the movie but fuck Sia for making the movie and forcing Maddie to be in that movie against her will)
@@MrTARDIS that's a lot of fucks I have to give sorry for venting on one of your videos but as I said autistic person here your videos are a comfort to me, also recovering alcoholic and addict watching your videos helps cheer me up when I feel close to a relapse, I dunno I just find your videos a source of comfort my dude, you're a good man you care about your viewers, you champion your viewers in a deeper way then just on the surface showing gratitude, it goes way further than that, that dedication to your fans and your support of your fans makes you one of my favorite RUclipsrs
If, back in the day, JNT had "stunt-casted" a drag celeb like Danny LaRue, Lily Savage or Edna Everage to appear in Doctor Who - the kind of thing he might well have done - I doubt it would have attracted anything like this level of (faux-)outrage. How ironic, then, that three decades later, in supposedly more enlightened times, some people are pissed off about the casting of Jinkx Monsoon. It's like we've gone backwards.
i got a little bored hearing old white men spew hate and noticed you have shudder saved on your browser which made me love this channel so much more
if I spent my entire life pretending to be outraged so I could pander to morons I’d top myself
You managed to set of my "OK, Google" at 7:24
3:12 Just when you thought they couldn't bring back an even more vile foe of The Doctor's. Didn't even update the rubber mask.
There are so many genuine issues in the world right now, but these Tories decide to focus their attention on a drag queen guest starring in an episode of a show that hasn't even come out yet, and they will no doubt not watch
It is just a one sided arguement interviewing someone who agrees with Kevin. Got to have a balance to have any meaning at all.
Jinx Monsoon sounds like the Moxx of Balhoon's sister.
THEESE DAYS you can’t even go to Albert Square without literally swimming in Drag Queens… it’s quite exhilarating I tell you!
'They're mocking women'
"It's only a joke mate! Like in Top Gear!"
It's 1966, the BBC is screening their prestigeous adaptation of Alice In Wonderland, written and directed by Jonathan Miller, among the cast -Leo Mckern as The Dutchess. Grow up people!
I know this is a month old but you're just so class at this. True debate team natural. How I managed to contend with you in a debate show absolutely alludes me. The idea of being on the receiving end of one of these incisive analysis videos chills me to the bone.
There is a mission is Red Dead 2, set in 1899, where you are trying to stop an underground slave workhouse.
Sorry, the title says this is about Kevin O'Sullivan? This appears to be Edward from The League of Gentlemen.
Anytime someone mentions Rupaul, all I can think of is when he’s yelled on a late night show “drag queen! A drag queen? I am the queen of drag!”
Really enjoyed the livestream, hoping to catch the next one! How dare they have so much fun!
Great work!
great takes, you never miss 🙏🙏
do they not understand that the character of jinxx monsoon is a woman, so she would obviously use she/they pronouns when in character??? Drag styles are also incredibly varied, they represent so many facets of femininity, some are hyperfeminine and some are completely gender nonconforming in their drag... neither are mocking women at all.
This is low key excellent marketing for 'Great Expectations' I shall be watching!
Kevin: " Gn! I was *never* confused! o.O "
11:32 won’t they be paying the licences fee when they are older?
Trilby- God bless you, mate! To paraphrase the OTHER Mr.T, l pity the fool who gets your attention.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Christ Edna Mode has gotten even worse
The BBC: **has one soap character who happens to moonlight as a drag performer, UK broadcasting rights to a reality game show involving drag, and a drag performer made famous by said game show soon to be guest-appearing in their flagship sci-fi drama (a genre known for being progressive)**
Kevin O'Sullivan: "Whoa, slow down -- don't you think you're doing too much, too quickly?!"
We'll have no shouting here!
23:56-23:59 🤣
Even IF drag queens were mocking women(they aren’t) Comedians can mock trans people without conservative backlash? Ahhh. Bias
23:37 I don’t think Kevin O’Sullivan has read it. Not that I’m saying he’s wrong about its contents (I haven’t read it) but Kevin doesn’t strike me as a voracious reader.
Bloody Rupert Murdoch
Michael Grade has worked with every main UK broadcaster - BBC, ITV and Channel 4, so no surprise to me that he was appointed to Ofcom. To be fair to Michael, I have listened to some things he said, and he is no rabid, foaming at the mouth right wing tory. He is your stereotypical centrist tory, wanting to keep the status quo.
Isn't he the guy who got Doctor Who cancelled in the 80s? Doesn't suprise me he's a right wing arsehole
@@seankelly8432 Yeah. His excuse on Top Gear was along the lines of: “I seen Star Wars, E.T., Star Trek and Doctor Who was rubbish compared to them” despite all three would be considered “woke”, if they were released today.
"Centrists" are just right-wing gatekeepers of the overton window
I get that, but it's still really iffy for the Conservative Government full of scandals to install a regulatory chairman at around the same time new Conservative/Fake-News outlets are being established in the UK.
@@MrTARDIS shame that due to these cunts you cant just cover Doctor Who solely
I wish I could formulate sentences and arguments as well as you when discussing these types of topics when annoying hard right wing people bring it up 😂
WTF
The purpose of placing drag artists in children's entertainment is tied up with Drag Pedagogy. It's all about "queering" the imagination.
Have you never heard of or been to a panto? they’re for children and part of British culture.
@@tokublwhovian Men dressing up as women for comic effect is ancient. But the current mania for drag has its roots in Critical/Queer Theory.
@@Tolstoy111 Doctor Who is queer in parts: the first director back in 63, showrunners back in the 80s and 2000s + one is returning this year, multiple LGBTQ+ characters in said show since 2005.
What do you mean by "queering the imagination"?
Because I watched Mrs Doubtfire as a kid, watched "authentic" Shakespeare productions and such and I was never "queered".
@@MrTARDIS Again I didn't say that men dressed up as women is always that. As noted, it's been around forever. But the current trend to overtly sexual adult performers reading for kids and being around kids has to do with Drag Pedagogy. Google it. I posted a link earlier but it was removed.