Mary Scotvold: A TSL Interview
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Mary Scotvold is a legend in figure skating. Born Mary Batdorf, she rose up the ranks of U.S. Figure Skating in the late 1950s alongside her twin sister, Anne. The twins excelled in the sport until their father decided it was time for them to quit - mid-competition. Following her competitive career, Mary Scotvold quickly became a top coach in U.S. Figure Skating - first alongside Ron Ludington and then her eventual husband, Evy Scotvold. While she is best known to the general public for guiding Nancy Kerrigan through the attack and her successful performance at the 1994 Olympics, Mary is known within the sport for her work as a choreographer, her mastery of the Gus Lussi technique, and for her coaching of Paul Wylie, Nancy Kerrigan, David Santee, Jimmie Santee, Jenny Kirk, Gordy McKellen, Terry Kubicka, Sandy Lenz and many others. We recently caught up with Mary to learn about her life and her views on figure skating.
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Another interview with living history. She is quite the character and actually I was surprised how diplomatic and empathetic she was towards Tonya.
I have an appreciation for Mary's straight-forwardness in this interview and am so glad you and Jenny were able to get this interview!
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Such a great interview!! Love these types of interviews, it really brings such inside information to the world of skating and what you see on TV.
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Great interview! I loved hearing the stories about Paul Wylie, Nancy Kerrigan. Jenny Kirk and Tonya. I couldn't watch I Tonya the movie either. Thank you Mary, Jenny and Dave!!!
I loved ❤ I Tonya movie !
I really love these interviews with the coaches. They have a lot to offer with their stories. I really enjoyed this!
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@@TheSkatingLesson I'll dream that some day with an interpreter there will be an interview with Yao Bin!
Mary was a great choreographer, loved all her programs (esp. Paul's 1989-1990 LP). She's looking great, so happy you did this interview.
Indeed, she is known for that, but in fact Mary was a technical master, as she had learned from Gus Lussi. Having studied with Ronny Ludington, Donny Laws and other pros, as well as Mary, I can tell you that she is underrated on that front. After she left Wilmington, I could always tell when she had choreographed someone's program because she had a spectacular sense of artistry, but if you wanted to learn superior jumping and spinning technique, Mary was the best, bar none.
I'm so glad to hear her say Paul Wylie was better than Petrenko at the 1992 Olympics, especially in the LP where Petrenko fell on, fell out of or downgraded at least four jumps. Paul stood everything up and had artistry that Petrenko couldn't touch. As she says, "in retrospect" yes, Paul definitely should have won. Petrenko's LP in 1992 is easily the most unworthy men's Olympic gold medal "win". Sadly, that "win" was followed up by Oksana Baiul's juvenile, two-footed LP Olympic "win" with just one combination jump tacked on in the last five seconds in 1994. Nancy Kerrigan's far more sophisticated, elegant, and fluid program easily should have won gold. Both Paul and Nancy were robbed. I'm glad to hear her say Nancy should have won too, and by a mile had it been under the current system. It seems the Eastern Bloc was working overtime at both those Games. What a coincidence two Eastern Bloc skaters "win" over better Americans skaters at the Olympics twice in a row.
I agree so much. What I cannot understand after all these years, is how three of the judges gave Oksana the victory based on the technical mark. She should have LOST based on the technical mark, not won from it. Nancy had far more content, should have been .2 higher on the technical mark and won the gold from that. And with Paul, I think it was an obvious case of judging on reputation/past results. Paul would have needed to be 100% perfect for the judges to even consider Victor not winning, especially when Browning crashed and burned. I loved the sport in the 90's but the amateur events were rife with corrupt and political judging...
@@mikeg8375 Most definitely. Oksana clearly two-footed her triple flip, a triple toe loop, and to my eye, her opening triple lutz. Nancy had footwork, step sequences, and a spiral sequence going into her jumps whereas Oksana telegraphed her jumps terribly. Nancy had two combinations, including triple salchow - double toe loop and triple toe loop - triple toe loop. Oksana's only combination was double Axel - double toe loop. Nancy did her triple lutz three minutes into the program while Oksana did hers right at the beginning. Any way you look at it, Nancy crushed Oksana technically and artistically.
When the media started "branding" Oksana as the "Orphan from Odessa" in the days leading up to the ladies competition, I knew Nancy was in trouble. The hidden hand behind figure skating was working to make Oksana the "feel-good" story of the Olympics. I could see the headlines: "Orphan from Odessa Wins Olympic Gold Just Two Years After Adopted Surrogate Father, Viktor Petrenko Won Gold in Albertville." What a coincidence. Some people criticized Nancy for her reaction at those Olympics, but it was a perfectly normal one from someone who KNEW she just got robbed of a rightful victory after probably 15 years of grueling training, exhausting travel, and financial struggles. It was her only chance at Olympic gold, she skated the performance of her life and yet, it was denied her. She had every right to be angry. Such a shame.
In a truly objective and fair competition, what Paul skated in the LP should have been more than enough to get the gold, especially when compared to Petrenko's disastrous LP. Yes, it makes sense that Paul was judged on his reputation and not how he skated at the 1994 Olympics. Award the Olympic gold medal to a skater who'd never won a World medal or even a National Championship? Never! I guess the judges could have been thinking that, but Sarah Hughes was in the same position in 2002 and won Olympic gold easily. That's why I believe the fix was in for both Viktor and Oksana. There were just enough eastern or Eastern Bloc countries on those judging panels to tip the win their way. It's why I'm so glad the 6.0 system is gone forever.
@@mikeg8375 Oksana had some technical edges on Nancy.
1. Her triple lutz was better and higher.
2. She had a slightly two footed triple flip but that was still a large edge on just a double flip. The flip is the 2nd most important triple after the lutz, and Nancy was missing it entirely. Oksana atleast stood up and landed all 5 different types of triples.
3. Oksana's spins were more difficult.
One problem for Nancy is her choreography was not up to her 92 and 93 standards, which really stood out vs Oksana who was such a great artist. She purposely cut back on the choreography and had a simpler and less sophisticated program to focus on the jumps as she had problems with jump consistency in 92 and 93 in big events. It allowed her to hit almost all the jumps, but probably hurt her 2nd mark some.
@@dougierichardson484 I disagree. Oksana's choreography was basic at best, something that was right out of juniors with her skipping and posing, complete with ponytail scrunchie, and yet she still two-footed three jumps and only did a double-double for her one combination. Nancy's choreography was mature, fluid, and sophisticated, along with her overall look. There just is no comparison either technically or artistically. Nancy was robbed in an Eastern Bloc coup to create the feel-good story of the Olympics for the "Orphan from Odessa".
What a fantastic interview, bravo! ⛸️🌹
I love Mary’s stories, and completely agree that Isabeau (apart from odd jump technique), is the most exceptional US figure skater today, and Christy Ness said basically said the same thing after watching the ladies field at 2023 Nats.
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Loved this interview, learned a lot! Dave, both you and Jenny are doing work that no one is. Not even the major sports networks with full staffs. Thank you!
What a great interview!
Thank you for this interview
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"Thank You" Jenny and Dave... I have been waiting for this interview for literally YEARS. It was well worth the wait.🥰
I took skating lessons from Evy for an entire summer sometime during the mid 1960’s in Burlingame, Ca. Fantastic interview!!
OMG what a.pleasure ti see Mary Scotvold
I love Mary so much ! ❤
So glad to see Mary doing well and in good health. Great interview.
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One of my favorites
Epic interview!!!
This is fantastic gold - thank you so much yet again - hearing this from the UK is even more interesting. ❤🙏
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Thank you for doing this interview! Really enjoyed Mary’s stories & insights!
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This is incredible, such a wonderful interview. ❤
Great interview THANK YOU!!!!!!! 😊
Great interview! And nice to have Jenny back!
Good interview! I found out that Mary grew up in Lebanon, PA, not far from me!
Bravo! Love it
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I was happy Oksana won, and still am to this day. But I really like the way Mary addressed CBS catching Nancy’s comment before the ceremony. I view that incident as the media’s way of dragging out this story…and betraying Nancy, who had been their darling. I would not consider myself a fan of Nancy’s and I don’t think she shouldn’t have said what she did, but I think she has gotten way too much unnecessary hate for it.
Terrific interview, thank you!
Waul Pylie was such a dynamic skater.
100%
She is a treasure. This woman is one of the key figures responsible for advancing the sport in various ways, particularly in terms of gender equality and recognition.
So what was the issue with Dick Button and the Ice Capades? Anyone know? ty
Nancy & Paul both deserved the Golds! I actually really liked Nancy’s style, it was modern & clean, she hit good positions & her jumps were fantastic, excellent air position & snap into the rotation. She was robbed, as was Paul. Tonya never showed genuine remorse or took responsibility for herself, like to play the victim.
I loved ❤:I Tonya Movie !
sounds like Mary needs a cigarette
Rude
Good for her on managing to quit