DrumTalk - How to Choose the Best Crash Cymbal For Your Playing
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
- This video is about how to choose the best crash cymbal for your playing style. I discuss how I choose cymbals, methods for playing cymbals and other techniques that will help you to be a better drummer.
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Thanks for the feedback Claude! 😎🥁
Great drum talk.... can’t get enough
Missed ya six months ago! 😳😀
My first set of "real" cymbals were some SABIANs that I got for my 15th birthday back in 2005, along with my first legitimate drum kit, a Sonor Force 3005, and I've been playing exclusively SABIAN ever since. My crash was a 16" B8 Rock Crash. SABIAN had many more lines of cymbals back in the day, so for you younger viewers, the B8 line was what is now called B8X. Decent cymbal, a little thick, and very loud, but you could have definitely done worse for the price.
A few years later, I upgraded to two crashes. An 18" B8 Pro Thin Crash, and a 19" Pro Sonix Crash. Neither of these lines exist anymore either, but they were decent cymbals, I was 17/18, so I was just happy to have anything other than my B8s..
Fast forward another two(ish) years, I was working more, and making more of my own money, so the time to upgrade came once again. I got a 19" AAX X-plosion Fast Crash. I loved it, so I went and got the 18", and... I hated it, so I returned, and exchanged it for a standard 18" AAX X-plosion model. Much better, far more explosive sounding, and better feel when hit. I stuck with these for years up until about a year ago.
After almost making the switch to Zildjian 🤮, I discovered a 22" HHX Complex Thin Crash in my local drum shop, and it brought me back to the light. From there I eventually went on to sell my AAX X-plosions to a friend who was in serious need of an upgrade, and bought 19", and 20" AAX Thin Crashes to replace them. They possess the same qualities as the X-plosion Crashes, such as the unlathed bell, but they're not as loud, and don't require as much "muscle" to get a full sound out of them. They still sound huge though. I also found an 18" HHX Evolution Crash I got a good deal on, I don't love it, but I keep it around when I need a crash that's quick, and not too loud. I got a 19" Evolution more recently, which is the exact opposite of the 18".. It's probably the loudest crash I own, definitely an arena cymbal.
Thanks for watching and your story! I played Sabian cymbals from 1988 through 2013 pretty much all the time. I’d occasionally use a Paiste or Zildjian in the mix but my Sabian cymbals were my main thing! Sabian HH OR AAX crashes … I never liked the AAs. I find that thinner crash cymbal are my thing … now I’ve added rides too! I always liked thin chinas! I still have my Sabian cymbals … I think about selling them often because they don’t get the love any more!
@@earldrum Agreed on the AAs! I've never been into those. Well, the crash cymbals at least. They made an AA Medium Heavy Ride back in the day that was amazing. Real pingy, and the bell cut like crazy, and with minimal effort. I've never played an HH Crash, but I used to have a 20" HH Rock Ride. I eventually "outgrew" it though, and sold it along with my X-plosion Crashes to my friend. Chinas have always been tricky for me to pin down, as a lot of them sound real gongy to me. The 19" Paragon China is great though, and the AAX X-treme Chinese seems to be very popular as well, would definitely love to give that a try if I ever got the chance. If you do sell your SABAINs, maybe trade them in and get some HHX Complex. The Crashes are very nice to the touch, and the Thin Rides are very crashable, unlike most ride cymbals that claim to be crashable. I have a 22" Complex Thin Ride I use for gigs with my band, it doubles as my ride, and my right crash. Easily the best cymbal I own.
Watching this the 4th time! Love ya buddy! Great stuff!
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Great video Earl. Love your cymbal discussion vids.
return2energiser ... thank you for the feedback and watching! It’s my desire to let drummers attain knowledge before buying. I’m happy to hear you enjoy the videos! 😁
I’d love to get my hands on that 19” kerope crash
Bryan the Kerope is a much quieter crash then most crashes. I love playing the Kerope cymbals on live gigs when the room calls for cymbals that don’t over power the room! It works great! Thanks for watching
@@earldrum yea iK ,,,, I just love the darkness and trashy sound it offers, too bad it doesn’t project more
Bryan Corey drums ... the Kerope series are really dark and low volume cymbals. I love them for my church gig. Even when I overplay them they don’t get super loud. But they are just so dark. If all I did was jazz then great, but I’m a pocket drummer. I really like the 14” hi hats! With the others!
Another great helpful video :)
DrumMan190 ... thanks! I’m trying to put out unique content that helps the drumming community. Thanks for your support! 🥁🥁🥁
Earl Bennett Your very welcome . Keep up the amazing work!! :)
DrumMan190 ... you are an encouragement to the drumming community! Keep up the good work too! 😀👍🏻
The AAX are really gems and quite obtainable.
Paul Moakley ... I have a few AAX studio crashes that are beautiful cymbals! I agree 👍🏻😀🤟🏻
All then crashes sound really nice brother
JAZZDRUMMERMAN thank you for watching my friend! I really like these crashes too! Thanks for the feedback!
You made a great point! Playing the hats to loud is to much, people do it all the time. Let the stick do the work on the hats, the hats will naturally project if you have a good quality cast set of hats
Thanks for watching my friend! I appreciate your feedback! Good point!
at last a vid with bass drum too...all crashes need bass drum...great vid
tune73 thank for the feedback! I agree, crash cymbals need the kick drum! I’m glad you enjoyed the video! 😀👍🏻
yes, cymbals! Love them - how they look and how they sound :) Recently my set of cymbals has been increased - that new cymbol was gifted to me by the cool drummer Alexander Lyulyakin :)
Kate Kuziakina thanks for your comments and feedback. 😀
Good review, I am trying to pair up my A Custom 17" Zildjian Crash. It is a superb versatile crash and is quite dark in tone, which has led to me being unsure as to what to pair up with. Don't like heavy cymbals. People have said just buy a 19" A same family, but they are very expensive new and difficult to source second hand. Therefore I do like that HH you played there and loved the Kerope although again...expensive
Ciara Donnelly ... I am like you, I like thin crash cymbals! Try an 18” Armand Thin crash ... it’s a beautiful cymbal. Actually all the newer A Zildjians are thinner so you might try a regular A Zildjian thin crash. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I always wanted light fast crashes till I started recording, and they got drowned out when I was hitting a crash in 8th notes. So I have opted to go with various manufacturers to get fast and medium crashes, and have different tones too. I have Sabian AAX Xplosion 16 and 18, Vintage Zildjian 16" thin crash, Paiste Sound Formula 16" Crystal crash, and a few splashes (6,8,12). I use a paiste Alpha 14" hi hat right now, and use a Zildjian A Custom 20" ride currently. It's well balanced, and the AAX line whispers, speaks, and roars when you want to. It's been an expensive journey with a Paiste Alpha 18" medium crash and a vintage Zildjian 18" thin crash, and a couple different rides too. I am very happy now.
crankysports ... that’s what it takes ... knowing your sound and the style music you are playing and finding the right cymbals for you. It sounds like you have found what works for you! As you can see I’m a cymbal nut ... I have a lot of different sounds for different gigs or songs. Thanks for watching and your comments! 😀
Earl Bennett - earldrum I completely agree, I spent much time at guitar center testing different brands in series of symbols to get something that sounded good together. I bought a few in between that I thought would sound good, but didn’t and ended up putting them on another person’s drum kit and they sound good on that kit. Having an ear for what you want is key.
Earl......just love your videos and opinions......After recently returning to my percussion first love after a 40 year hiatus,I find myself trying to buy cymbals by listening to them on RUclips. This probably isnt a good strategy. At this point I have a Sabian HH raw bell dry ride and a Paiste signature full ride that are truly VERY INTERESTING and mysterious cymbals that I am growing to love , but they just aren’t what I thought they would be......neither are a nice , mellow , sit back and practice kind of ride that I can do some light jazz or rock practice.......other thank keep on plunking down boatloads of money, I guess I’m not sure how to proceed......keep up the great videos, partner!
Rob Alexander ...thanks for sharing and the feedback! Finding great cymbals is really a life long obsession for me. I have grown to love Paiste 2002 alloy cymbals for rock, pop, 60s - 90s music. I have a wonderful set of Zildjian Kerope cymbals and some nice Armand cymbals ... and some older 70s A Zildjians ... so I have that sound to. Also, I have some great 1980s Sabian HH cymbals! So I love vintage cymbals as much as new cymbals! Keep looking and you will find what you are after! Thanks for watching
Much valuable information gleaned from your experiences, bro! I got tired just listening to all the energy & time you invested to find your cymbals! Hahaha I haven't done much studio work, so for me it's simple: I'm a Zildjian guy. :-) Give me a 20" A series Ride, 14" Newbeats, a 15" & 17" fast crashes & I'm ready to boogie! :-) Great video, man!
Skip Trace ... oh to be a Zildjian guy only! I think discovering Sabian cymbals back in the mid 80s help me to be such a cymbal lover. Plus Sabian cymbals used to cost less than Zildjians and sounded the same to me! But I have my share of Zildjians! I always liked that K Zildjian sound and the Sabian HH cymbals was that Canadian K sound that’s what opened my mind to more than Zildjian. But I understand digging one cymbal company!
Hey Earl, have you thoughts on sizes that work well together? I have a 19 inch 2002 crash, wondering whether to go with another 17 or 18 inch 2002
Thanks for the feedback and questions. My quick answer is that odd sized cymbals sound great! Paiste 2002 crashes are wonderful cymbals! I have a bunch of odd sized cymbals that are Sabian and Zildjian they all sound great! They pair well with even sized cymbals! I explain it better on my Ask Earl Anything show in June!
@@earldrum No worries, thanks. I had a friend suggest to pair cymbals with a two inch difference. E.g. 16 with 18 or 17 with 19 but not sure if this is true.
@@shamusenright5387 one or two inches either one works! I’ve paired a 16” with a 20” crash. There are no rules! It’s what your ear hears!
I've been trying to match a set of cymbals for a year now. According to this vid, I started backwards I guess bc I started with a 16" aax concept crash. I started there bc when I think of how a cymbal is supposed to sound its exactly like this one. I've also discovered that I don't like 18" cymbals. So I ended up pairing it with a 16.5" zildjian A and a 17" bosphorus thin. They make a triad sound like a chord when played in succession. I found an old 70s era zildjian ride and a pair of 505 sound edge hats and I'm about to call it a done deal. I went through a hundred cymbals in my search for a match. It was a great education. Next I'm matching big cymbals for a jazz kit starting with a 20" Istanbul I got for Xmas. Wish me luck and send suggestions.
Travis Abshire ... thanks for watching! There is no right way to find a cymbal, it all comes down to your ears. I hope my journey helped you discover your method for finding that perfect cymbal. Thanks for watching!
@@earldrum I love ur vids man. It's bc of them that I know about paiste 404 505 which I like a lot bc sounds better than the $... Which is not usually the case in my journey so far lol. Thanks for reply. Keep up the good work.
I am an amateur percussionist, and I am in search for better thin or fast crashes to accompany timbales, cajon, congas, and some other hand percussions that I play. I prefer crashes with thin weights because they have faster vibrations especially if I hit with a hand. Popular manufacturers have made some specialities such as Zildjian FX El-Sonido, Sabian AA El-Sabor, Paiste PST7 and PSTX Cajon Crash, and Meinl Candela Series. Regardless of these series, please give the advice what is the best for percussionists. Is it okay if I choose other thin crashes even they are not actually designed for hand playing. I ask for this because there are rare videos of crash cymbal comparisons in hand-playing style. Thanks.
Michael Souhoka ... I’m sorry RUclips didn’t notify me of your question. I think the Paiste Giant Beat thin 18” cymbal is a wonderful hand cymbal. Some larger splash 12” cymbals are quite thin which could be great for hand crashing. I’m not an expert on hand cymbals, but I have crashed my studio AAX crashes with my hands! Sorry for the delay on my answer!
Paiste has its own website were they have a sound lab that is far better than Memphis drum shops IMHO.
paiste.com/e/cymbals.php?menuid=257&family=5&category=2&action=category&model=430
You should do a drum cover with a hybrid set up, different hi hat, different crash, different ride, mix all the families up! LOL JK you don’t have to do that but it would be cool
Maybe someday ... I mix Sabian and Zildjian, but not Paiste to often. Thanks for watching again.
Ha you mentioned Coral Springs! I live 2 minutes from there and my drum teacher lives in Coral Springs. Have you been to Ressurection drums?
Vladimir Lopez ... I’ve been to Resurrection Drums many times. Who are studying with ... Evan? We should get together sometime in the real world ... maybe meet at Resurrection Drums and grab some lunch. I live in Lake Worth.
Earl Bennett - earldrum yes Evan! I used to work up in LW! Small world. I’d love to meet up with you there.
Vladimir Lopez ... we should do it sometime! I like meeting with other drummers.
sent you a request on facebook so I can message you there
Earl, has Paiste always been a little more expensive than Zildjian and Sabian??
Sorry I missed this great question … yes I think so! When you talk about pro level cymbals!
my cymbal bag at the moment contains a 22" Bosphorus New Orleans and a 20" Avedis Ride that I use as a crash, pair or Tosco 15" Hats. I've one 18" Zanchi crash, but selling it later today. I really need some proper crashes! This is a great video. Love the Keropes,
alan I understand! I’ve been playing drums for over 40 years. I’ve acquired a lot of stuff!! But there was a day when I only had a few choices. The kerope cymbals are amazing instruments. The kerope cymbals would go nice with the Bosphorus ride. I appreciate your feedback!
Earl Bennett Absolutely, I've been selling a lot lately and buying new stuff with the cash. I've a serious lack of crashes at the moment though. I'll keep an eye out for some used Keropes. You have that kit sounded nice. Great video. 👍👍
I had a bag of pies stolen from me as well last year which was hard to take. Trying to get the right cymbals now.
alan duncan ... look at eBay and follow interstate music and other serious drum outlets ... if you see anything that is sold as slightly used and the price is seriously lower than the current “new” price that might be a really good buy. I purchased my last 5 cymbals doing that method and received essentially brand new cymbals ... not a mark on them! They were “b” stock or last years stock ... the best time is right after Christmas, but if you track cymbals you might see this trend all year long. This is a common practice of the major drum selling outlets.
Earl Bennett Thanks so much, Earl. I don't mind a second hand cymbal as long as I know the weight and / or can hear a sound file before buying like you said. I'll keep an eye out for some deals. 👍