The cars look like they're made for an action video game that wants an "F1" car but has no license and need it a bit extreme and they sound like nascar. This has potential
Imagine seeing them along with Rubens Barichello on the grid at Albert Park next year. It would be awesome to see. I was thinking as I was watching the livestream that Mark Webber should give it a go. Gil de Ferran was working with McLaren for their Indy project, so maybe for Fernando Alonso? They gotta make this happen! It would be epic.
While I agree with you, that Australian fascination with lumpy V8s has been the major reason we have made little progress in motorsport here over the last 40 years. This formula addresses that problem. The trouble is that V8 Stupidcars are so entrenched here that most Australians know no other type of racing or if they do, they only see it refracted through V8 Stupidcars references.
F1 V8 sound much better. These low tec V8 engines do not rev over 8000 rpm. F1 V8 18000rpm max. I understand the intention of using these engines. They are made to last a whole season. This makes S5000 very boring.
Siegbert schnösel Have you ever been to an S5000 race? I can promise you they are not boring. I was at Sandown and the sight of Macrow, Martin and Golding going up the back straight at 250-260, covered by a pocket handkerchief was one of the best things I’ve seen in racing in decades. If all you’re interested in is technical things then you’re welcome to the processional events like Formula 1 but if you like racing and want to know who the best driver is then S5000 does a better job. The engines were not just chosen for their reliability. They cost about $30,000 complete. How much does an F1 engine cost? A million maybe? Even a V8 Stupidcar engine costs $160,000. Anyone starting a new category of open wheelers in Australia either has rocks in their head or they have been very careful with identifying running costs and target public. It’s still a gamble but clearly one a hard-nosed businessman like Garry Rogers was prepared to put his money behind. I don’t know how anyone could call this boring.
I'm already behind it. I just hope they get more high profile events than Shannons Nationals. They're gonna be at the Grand Prix next year which is great, but they should at least be a support category at Supercars events so they're live on TV. Scrap the SuperUtes and bring in these.
Lachyy Fair enough. But if you are interested in motorsports - and particularly racing - I encourage you to get yourself to an S5000 event as soon as you can.
@@thethirdman225 Oh I will be lol, not gonna miss V8 open wheel racing, with modern aero etc. Their an excellent idea, make them supporting races at supercars rounds and they should draw a big crowd.
Man this is fantastic.. and only the first meet ... dam you have a series on your hands.. Great coverage too .. thanks very much for this up load . Bloody bonza !!
Thanks for uploading this First race. I think its bloody Fantastic. To see rubens in A single seater again is so Cool. And second at that. Hope this turns into something Big. Love it 👍👌👊
I hope Alex Davison is okay. That crash was frightening. What a fun new racing series! I love that Rubens is back in open wheelers again. It is fun to watch. Thank you for uploading. Where can I watch the full race or the live coverage? (Europe/Germany)
Davison's okay, he said in an interview that it didn't even hurt. The races are all broadcast on the Shannon's Nationals website for free as well as on Motorsport.tv.
Eu sei que não é a mesma coisa de quando o rubinho estava na F1, mas é bom ter você volta (pude ver você pegar em um carro parecido da F1) como falei: é bom ter você de volta ☺❤
Australia is far from home But Rubens would do great in this series Hasnt driven a open wheeler car in 7 years, goes on to finish in 5th and 2nd, thats pretty good
I wouldn’t rate Sandown as particularly suited for single-seaters, but they put on a good show. If these cars can perform as well on more a flowing type of circuit, I’d be very impressed.
I don't want to belittle this series at all, quite the opposite, but just to make it easier to understand, would you call the s5000s more economical, NA, Australian F2 cars?
Thanks. This is great. Is S5000 like Formula 5000, using big old V8s? I've loved this type of car since I was a kid going to SCCA races in the US. They called this class Formula A, I think.
In America Formula A was the amateur class of the professional Formula 5000. Back in the day they were all pushrod chevys except for an occasional Ford and the UOP cars that all had Dodge 5-liter engines. Now they're all DOHC 5-liter Fords. It would be nice if more chassis manufactures would get involved
Create interstitial transitions for your edits. It's too choppy and amateurish otherwise. If you want S5000 to appear as a legitimate top tier open wheel class, smooth and slick packaging is important.
What I saw was excellent except for Alex Davidson. Why though are they so heavy? 900kilo, My Sports sedan was only 20 kilos heavier. XU1 Chev. They seem to have brake balance issues though, the number of locked brakes, Rubens especially. The new part over the top down to Dandenong Rd though lets people deliberatly short cut. That is great piece of road being spoilt more and more every year
They can adjust the brake bias. As for the weight, I don’t know. I had a look at a weight distribution chart in the pits and it would be more like 900 including driver and fuel. Empty weight would be about 820. Still not light for a single seater. An old F5000 Lola T332 weighs about 665 kg. The new chassis should be lighter. The engine is all alloy, compared to cast iron... I can’t see where the extra 150 kilos comes from.
MrCpolzin Well, the circumstances were a bit different. Lex basically died of a heart attack, which caused his crash. And there was no guardrail there so he went the other way, onto the horse track.
Awesome series and so nice to see Rubens Barrichello again.
he is running on Stock Car Brazil
The cars look like they're made for an action video game that wants an "F1" car but has no license and need it a bit extreme and they sound like nascar. This has potential
Guaoooo fantastic race
So Project Cars basically lol
Dude. They are F3 chassis; and 2x the horsepower of W series...
I disagree there is nothing outstanding about this league and suspect it will dry up in a couple if years
best description of these cars
NASCAR engines in an F2, F1, Indycar hybrid body! Beautiful!
Barrichello sayd: "Mark Webber, Jenson Button and Gil de Ferran call me to ask about the category". Can you imagine?!
Oooooowwwww, please, please make that happen, I'm soooo keen. Hope they give it a go.
Imagine seeing them along with Rubens Barichello on the grid at Albert Park next year. It would be awesome to see. I was thinking as I was watching the livestream that Mark Webber should give it a go. Gil de Ferran was working with McLaren for their Indy project, so maybe for Fernando Alonso?
They gotta make this happen! It would be epic.
Dont forget Alonso too
@@F1Ady Alonso...hm. I doubt about that..
Webber is Aussie... so that should be a no brainier surely?
Aussies love their V8s... and thank god for that!
You can’t beat that sound.
yeah you can. v8s usually sound pretty bland as does this one.
While I agree with you, that Australian fascination with lumpy V8s has been the major reason we have made little progress in motorsport here over the last 40 years. This formula addresses that problem. The trouble is that V8 Stupidcars are so entrenched here that most Australians know no other type of racing or if they do, they only see it refracted through V8 Stupidcars references.
@@nanderlizernanderlizer684 Well, I was there and they are pretty wild.
F1 V8 sound much better. These low tec V8 engines do not rev over 8000 rpm. F1 V8 18000rpm max. I understand the intention of using these engines. They are made to last a whole season. This makes S5000 very boring.
Siegbert schnösel Have you ever been to an S5000 race? I can promise you they are not boring. I was at Sandown and the sight of Macrow, Martin and Golding going up the back straight at 250-260, covered by a pocket handkerchief was one of the best things I’ve seen in racing in decades. If all you’re interested in is technical things then you’re welcome to the processional events like Formula 1 but if you like racing and want to know who the best driver is then S5000 does a better job.
The engines were not just chosen for their reliability. They cost about $30,000 complete. How much does an F1 engine cost? A million maybe? Even a V8 Stupidcar engine costs $160,000. Anyone starting a new category of open wheelers in Australia either has rocks in their head or they have been very careful with identifying running costs and target public. It’s still a gamble but clearly one a hard-nosed businessman like Garry Rogers was prepared to put his money behind.
I don’t know how anyone could call this boring.
The sound...
I'm so glad people still want to see roaring beasts race against each other.
Great series! Wonder if they could convince webber to jump on this?
I think webber gave away his racing license because he doesn't want to race anymore
A. Donis He did
Weber also lives in the UK and is under the thumb
@@stuartmarshall7099 LOL!! Yep!
Exactly Rubens! It's been 7 years since we last saw you in an open wheeler. What a pleasure. So many memories. Good luck and all best from Greece!!!
This could potentially be the Australian counterpart to Super Formula
I'd drop F1 for this!
FOX POPVLI yeh I wouldn’t go that far 💀
Or the Toyota racing series
No h pattern
Hope Australians get behind this series!
When 80% of the race is under yellow, who couldn't love it!
@@between2spaces340 well they did have a big crash...yeah did take a long time to recover. but sure they will learn faster.
I'm already behind it. I just hope they get more high profile events than Shannons Nationals. They're gonna be at the Grand Prix next year which is great, but they should at least be a support category at Supercars events so they're live on TV. Scrap the SuperUtes and bring in these.
AJA I was at Turn 9 that day. If they're at Sandown, then I'll be there to watch
@@Streetw1s3r Supercars seem to be doing everything they can to kill it.
Great Racing. I'm a fan already.
Barrichello hasn't lost his form.
Who’s here because of Rubens Barrichello?!
That's how you gain attention of fans, great marketing move from series owners
@Khristian Gillespie4444 but i read they are a FIA F3 spec chassis....
the rest of the grid didnt achieve anything else in racing. One is here for his grandpas achievements in F1 (Brabbham)
Who here to post click bait
oranjelicht You sounds like one of them internet experts.
I'm here because of Rubens :)
It would be great to have permanent famous guest starter from other great series.
Absolutely love seeing Rubens Barrichello back in the racing seat. Such a legend and I hope he is here to stay.
Europe has F1, USA has Indy Cars this is what we need....looks like they spent a lot of cash on the new run off areas....well done cheers....
and AUS has V8 supercars... These are awesome but you can't beat the supercars.
Lachyy Of course you can.
@@thethirdman225 Nah personally I prefer the supercars. Just an opinion
Lachyy Fair enough. But if you are interested in motorsports - and particularly racing - I encourage you to get yourself to an S5000 event as soon as you can.
@@thethirdman225 Oh I will be lol, not gonna miss V8 open wheel racing, with modern aero etc. Their an excellent idea, make them supporting races at supercars rounds and they should draw a big crowd.
Thoroughly enjoyable racing. And you have to love the Aussie tracks, they always have such an old-school feel to them. Great series overall!
It’s indeed nice to see you racing again Rubens.
Barrichello still in a good shape! Go Barrichello!
Much better than the V8 Super Taxi series.
Great start to what will be an awesome series. Nice to Rubens, would love to see more Ex F1 pilots in the future!
I LOVE IT.
PLEASE, keep this camera style. In F1 the cars look like they are going slow.
Leave it to the Aussies to come up with another awesome series. This has a lot of potential. More Please!
Man this is fantastic.. and only the first meet ... dam you have a series on your hands.. Great coverage too .. thanks very much for this up load .
Bloody bonza !!
Thanks for uploading this
First race. I think its bloody
Fantastic. To see rubens in
A single seater again is so
Cool. And second at that.
Hope this turns into something
Big. Love it 👍👌👊
nice racing...S5000. good start
wish u guys only the best
vai RUBINHO❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗
Ruebens. Class act.
1:50 - 2:20 is what this is all about. Best thing I saw all weekend. Edge of your seat stuff.
I had no idea that existed 😳
Love the sound and the low aero design. F1 should watch this.
Thoroughly impressed by this! Lots of potential in the near future.
Yeah, that was awesome. It was also great to see Rubens drive. I wish I could like this video 100 times.
These are brilliant - Love it!!
Great Series, Great Drivers, Great Work Dudes! 👍💪
My gosh, that sound in an open wheel car. Incredible.
Cars look good, racing is good, nice series!
It's similiar like IndyLight, amazing!!
Fantástica, corrida, e como e bom ver Rubens, fazendo aquilo que ele mais gosta que e correr feliz, parabéns, sucesso..
Rubens did it knowing the car only on race weekend. This man is a machine!
Australia needs this.. would love to see it become the top level of racing here in oz
...its F3 dude...
@@AmsterdamHeavy ok, I had no idea.. good stuff
@@AmsterdamHeavy this isnt australian f3
We need something touring cars is terrible now don't even watch it anymore.
@@uteboy86 exactly
Why do I see this for the first time 😣. So awesome to see Rubens Barrichello end-up second.
damn if not for that crash Rubens could have been onto a winner!
get Webber and Alonso in this series, that would be awesome!
Full Race! Full Race! Full Race! Full Race! Full Race! Full Race! Full Race! Full Race!
The track was damaged for to the crash
The barrier was not safe for the drivers to continue the race
It was the right call
In case this means you wanting to watch the full race you can do so on motorsport.tv
@@agenthoini Great! I will watch there! Thank you!
These things sound and race awesome.
I hope Alex Davison is okay. That crash was frightening.
What a fun new racing series! I love that Rubens is back in open wheelers again. It is fun to watch. Thank you for uploading. Where can I watch the full race or the live coverage? (Europe/Germany)
Davison's okay, he said in an interview that it didn't even hurt.
The races are all broadcast on the Shannon's Nationals website for free as well as on Motorsport.tv.
@@ladystrawberries5267 thank you! Glad to hear! Cheers!
@@racedrummer1 wait.. you from germany too?
@@marvinlinnarz5856 yes I am.
@@racedrummer1 wait.. ist this a Jojo reference?
wow that was exciting...i pretty much underestimated this series...will keep a check
Eu sei que não é a mesma coisa de quando o rubinho estava na F1, mas é bom ter você volta (pude ver você pegar em um carro parecido da F1) como falei: é bom ter você de volta ☺❤
They sound like old school indy cars. i like it!
We love and miss you Rubens.
Love the series guys
Really hope it become successful
great to see rubens.
this is awesome!!!
Can't wait to see this on Bathurst.
This series was good to watch and sounded great to
An epic race, can't wait for more
The s5000 sound remember me to Irl 97. Nice sound!
Fantastic! Some of those other so-called "top tier" open wheel series could learn something from this.
Australia is far from home
But Rubens would do great in this series
Hasnt driven a open wheeler car in 7 years, goes on to finish in 5th and 2nd, thats pretty good
Sick!!! Rubens Barrichello and all!
barrichello second place great driver
these rear wings are epic... wow
Rubens Barrichello 👏👏👏👏
This looked very fun.
This is really good racing, in cool cars which sound as good as they look. I sincerely hope S5000 gets the attention it deserves. It's cool as fuck.
The S5000 series winner ought be awarded "The Chris Lambden" Trophy
my fucking god the sound.......tears of joy
Can you hear this, F1? Take note.
Vai Rubinhooooo!
Good stuff
Love to see big rear tyres again
I just found out about the series. Looking to learn more. Seems interesting. 👌🏻
RUBITO MITO....
Sick
Barrichello 👍👍
Barrichello pra sempre...
I've heard the nickname "Formula Thunder" tossed around, sounds about right.
Cars look good kinda of mix of IndyCar and F2
This is race 😎
Awesome make it a big category like indycars 😀😀
Feliz de ver Rubinho mandando ver
Would love to see things going around Phillip Island
I want to see this series race on Mount Panorama. That would put the touring cars to shame.
@@epistte It's happening www.highwayf1.com/news/2019/9/19/s5000-to-race-at-bathurst-in-2020
@@rhyslbw thanks mate I didn't think they would do it
I wouldn’t rate Sandown as particularly suited for single-seaters, but they put on a good show. If these cars can perform as well on more a flowing type of circuit, I’d be very impressed.
epistte Touring cars - as in V8 Stupidcars - mostly put themselves to shame.
Unfukinbeleivable
Looks like F1 sounds like Nacscar, isn't what we want?
I don't want to belittle this series at all, quite the opposite, but just to make it easier to understand, would you call the s5000s more economical, NA, Australian F2 cars?
Thanks. This is great. Is S5000 like Formula 5000, using big old V8s? I've loved this type of car since I was a kid going to SCCA races in the US. They called this class Formula A, I think.
Yep, S5000 is based on Formula 5000. The engines are 5.0-litre naturally aspirated Ford V8s, capable of putting out 560 hp.
@@TheOriginalStix please mic the engines more somehow haha it's glorious
In America Formula A was the amateur class of the professional Formula 5000. Back in the day they were all pushrod chevys except for an occasional Ford and the UOP cars that all had Dodge 5-liter engines. Now they're all DOHC 5-liter Fords. It would be nice if more chassis manufactures would get involved
Miatacrosser The idea was to keep it a one-make series to keep the costs down and push driver skill to the front.
Oval race?
So... When do thay start to save fuel and tyres?
Nordi Mejia nope nope nope nope! Best thing S5000 can do is NOT become F1 as it is presently.
Vettel should join this series
Great sound v8 pure espectaculo
I cant even hear the car engine noise 😂😂😂
Put on some headphones.
We are a website from Greece (F1racingnews.gr) and we watched the race and it was awesome. We're going to create a column just for S5000 ;)
These cars seem extremely unstable. Seems like a fun car to drive!
?? about Rubens chevy patch...with all cars ford powered??
The series isn’t sponsored by Ford so I doubt if anyone got bent out of shape about it.
900kg? why are they so heavy?
5 litre V8's are normally pretty heavy
A27200 Yeah but these are all alloy engines.
That new Design. The old Front Wing would have looked much better.
Essa categoria tem potencial para dominar a Ásia. Seria Loko!!!
Leandro Ribeiro Corrêa Ásia ? Australia é na Oceania
@@DinhosGamer Oceania é muito pequeno. Se fossem adicionadas corridas na ásia, que é mais perto, seria o ideal.
Leandro Ribeiro Corrêa Amigo, o automobilismo aqui na Australia é GIGANTE.. só isso que eu te falo
Create interstitial transitions for your edits. It's too choppy and amateurish otherwise. If you want S5000 to appear as a legitimate top tier open wheel class, smooth and slick packaging is important.
I don't even know what interstitial edits are so I didn't miss them.
What I saw was excellent except for Alex Davidson. Why though are they so heavy? 900kilo, My Sports sedan was only 20 kilos heavier. XU1 Chev.
They seem to have brake balance issues though, the number of locked brakes, Rubens especially.
The new part over the top down to Dandenong Rd though lets people deliberatly short cut. That is great piece of road being spoilt more and more every year
They can adjust the brake bias. As for the weight, I don’t know. I had a look at a weight distribution chart in the pits and it would be more like 900 including driver and fuel. Empty weight would be about 820. Still not light for a single seater. An old F5000 Lola T332 weighs about 665 kg. The new chassis should be lighter. The engine is all alloy, compared to cast iron... I can’t see where the extra 150 kilos comes from.
Isn't that the same spot Davisons G'dad crashed and died ? The same straight and lh turn into the barrier..? :O
Yep.
@@thethirdman225 Damn.. that's a hell of a coincidence
MrCpolzin Well, the circumstances were a bit different. Lex basically died of a heart attack, which caused his crash. And there was no guardrail there so he went the other way, onto the horse track.
@@thethirdman225 That's the one. I had a friend at Sandown that day who told me the story years ago. Bloody glad Davo walked away okay mate
MrCpolzin Yep.
Whats the point of the halo if your head is sticking over it?
The top of the air box is also the top of the roll hoop. The driver’s head is well clear.
@@thethirdman225 Still, if debris goes flying...
RampantFury925 Go on then, tell me how you would improve things.
@@thethirdman225 Raise it higher, for one thing.
@@RampantFury925 Raise the halo higher? And make the opening underneath bigger for debris to go through?
What are these cars worth? Will they race lakeside
You can get into one of these for about US $200,000 (AU $300,000).