Save the Pan Am Worldport / Delta JFK Terminal 3
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2012
- This is a collage of video clips taken inside Delta Air Lines Terminal 3 at JFK during my November 2011 trip to Buenos Aires.
Some of you may know I am part of a campaign to help save the iconic historically important Terminal 3 "umbrella" building from demolition. If you are familiar with the issue, Delta Air LInes, in conjunction with the Port Authority of NY/NJ and the Schiphol Group, is expanding Terminal 4 and is planning to move most of its Terminal 3 operations there as of May 2013.
Sometime after May 2013, the entire Terminal 3 structure is expected to be demolished and repaved for additional aircraft parking to help ease unnecessary aircraft movement around the airport. Delta plans to keep the ugly box Terminal 2 next door and extend the connector between Terminal 2 and Terminal 4.
The campaign seeks to petition Delta Air Lines, the PANYNJ, government officials and other influential people to demolish only the rear expansion section of Terminal 3 but leave the iconic round "umbrella" building intact, restored, and an integral part of the proposed Terminal 2 to Terminal 4 connector.
The restored umbrella will continue to be a unique, historical part of JFK like the restored Saarinen TWA terminal, but would also house revenue-generating services.
Other ideas include moving Terminal 2 regional jets to the "umbrella" or housing a JFK chapter of the Delta Heritage Museum, which would also honor Pan Am's history.
Too much to describe here, so please visit our Facebook page for more info.
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Pan Am's WorldPorts should never have been demolished. It was a masterpiece.
Final destination was Buenos Aires. JFK-ATL was a 757-200 then ATL-EZE was 767-300ER. Same thing in reverse for the return trip.
I miss the Pan Am terminal. They should have never tore it down. I remember flying into this terminal back in the early 2000s going and coming from Istanbul. Those were the days.
Dude! I've always wondered what the present-day Delta Airlines/Frmr Panam Air Lines World Terminal at JFK looked like on the inside! Nice Vid!! Where were you headed, and on what aircraft?
I was back at the terminal in November 2012 and took a lot more high-res photos. Check out savetheworldport org to see lots more current and historical photos.
Nostalgia, but mostly sadness and anger at the thought that it might be torn down.
RIP JFK Airport Terminal 3 1960-2013
Awesome video! Flying out of it tomorrow! Hey, have you signed the change. org petition?
I don't understand if our (TWA) Earo Saarinen (Architect TWA Terminal 5) was saved and declared a landmark how Delta, NY Port Authority, New York City, The State Of New York are even considering the demolition of that architectural wonder?
SO SAD :( She's gone :(
LOL!! I remember two agents (a guy and his honey) were screwing in that jetway in the dark. Some passenger saw it and just had to report it. Poor couple got fired. (that was in the Delta times)
The Worldport Building at JFK has so many uses. Delta Airlines leaving it was for the Best. let them move off to the Newer Terminal 4 at Kennedy Airport.
How many other Airlines would love to have Gates at the Worldport Building ? Many. Everything from Fire, Safety and Rescue would be able to use the Worldport for one reason or another.The Airline Support Companies from Fueling Companies to Snowplow Companies and Security Services would make good use of the Worldport
Commuter Planes can use it.
From JFK to EZE there is Aerolineas Argentinas who is a Skyteam alliance member like Delta.
What can be done to sabe this historic landmark. ???
This...coming from someone whose name is that of the man who pioneered the creation of this terminal.
nice building but traveling through it SUCKS so I'm glad to see it go. Perhaps it can be used as a hotel/gym or something else but as a terminal? No way.
A torture chamber for decades that is thankfully no longer able to inflict its wrath upon the innocent airport user.
Wow...hard to believe the STWP campaign is STILL completely misunderstood to this day. Sadly unfortunate that more people couldn't see past the disrepair Delta and the Port Authority allowed it to fall into and not realize its historic and architectural significance and reuse potential. Yes, the rear add-on part of the terminal was useless, but the original 1960 front saucer could have easily been repurposed as some other functional part of the airport.
I'm sorry that you feel misunderstood, but I simply do not agree that all period buildings are worth saving. Personally, I put a very high value on worthy venerable structures and I truly appreciate seeing them rehabilitated or successfully repurposed. I do not believe this was the case with the Pan Am structure. I think the TWA Eagle at JFK was a great save and the Marine Air Terminal at LGA is a historically significant gem.
I grew up with the Pan American Worldport and knew it intimately. Pointing a finger of blame at Delta for letting it fall into disrepair is either disingenuous or just ill-informed. Delta poured countless millions into the miserable excuse for a functioning airline terminal that they inherited in the 1991 Pan Am transaction.
I trust you won't be similarly disappointed when the old blue box (Terminal 2) sees the long overdue wrecking crew hopefully before too many more years have passed.
Oddly, I think we really do agree on principle. I just do not think that the principle applies in every single case.
ejstar111 I also agree that not all buildings are worth saving, but the original Pan Am terminal absolutely was. Not the rear add-on as I mentioned, but the original elliptical structure. The original structure was magnificent in its heyday (and still is - and yes I understand that it's not aesthetically pleasing to everyone.) Many of the design features first used on this terminal we take for granted now. But architecture and engineering aside, it represented Pan Am, a cultural icon and the many historic events associated with Pan Am.
The TWA Flight Center is indeed a masterpiece and it has a starchitect's name attached to it, which made it an easy save (although both TWA and Port Authority wanted to do away with it decades ago.) But saving the Flight Center wasn't a free pass to demolish the Pan Am terminal. The two could have easily co-existed, and the Pan Am terminal's shape would have made it far easier to re-purpose.
You don't take on a campaign of this magnitude and face off against these two juggernauts without diligent research. We made many FOIL requests on Port Authority documents (leases, modifications, proposals, etc.) and we talked to several Delta employees (some of whom were former Pan Am employees, and some who were not) who provided us with a wealth of information. We also consulted with architects, engineers and many preservationist organizations, and we had the ear of several top people at the Port Authority who were sympathetic to our cause.
Every airport tenant must "pour countless millions" on upkeep and upgrades just to keep business going, even on new terminals. That's just part of doing business and satisfying liability. Delta spent about $10M across both T2 and T3 in 2006/7 to mostly upgrade their Sky Clubs, without really doing anything to fix structural issues on the flying saucer. They've just been applying band aid fixes here and there over the years to roof leaks, chipping paint, and plaster. I mean for chrissake sake, the rotunda's windows were filthy when I was there in 2011 and they were filthy when I went back in 2012 and 2013. If they couldn't be bothered with something as fundamental as washing the windows, how could anyone expect them to fix anything else? As I mentioned in my first response, the blame also falls on the Port Authority who is ultimately responsible for the property, not just Delta. So you see, pointing the finger at Delta or the Port Authority is neither disingenuous nor ill-informed even on the most basic level. What they HAVE poured countless millions into, however, is its demolition - estimated at something between 40 and 60 million as per a 2010 Port Authority document.
Regarding Terminal 2, we made it clear in several of our proposals that the eventual demolition of Terminal 2 would provide further expansion that would largely outweigh keeping the flying saucer in place. The only reason Terminal 2 has any value whatsoever is its association with Braniff, Northeast and Northwest, but that's about it. From what we understand from long-term Port Authority plans, there will likely be an expansion of Terminal 1 after Terminal 2 is demolished. But we were told back in 2012 that would likely not happen for at least 10 years. But when it comes to the Port Authority and JFK, these things are never static and for all we know plans might change entirely in the course of a few years.
I value all the points you have made. As someone who grew up with that terminal and spent decades in and around the airline business, I did not come to my opinion lightly. We simply do not agree about the value of the Worldport. It was magical to me when I was 4 years old. Unfortunately, it's design had it sitting on the airside and that made saving it impractical and overly expensive.
I do not dismiss your opinion or the sincerity of what you tried to do. We just don't agree on this one.
Arrived here on PANAM flight 001 from London Heathrow in 1979..found it much more pleasent that the international terminal for foreign carriers at JFK..