The next Level of Node-Red is n8n. Useful for You?

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

Комментарии • 60

  • @mbbxx
    @mbbxx 5 часов назад +59

    n8n is a crippleware. For instance, they require enterprise subscription, if you want to use global variables (shared between workflows)

    • @Metzlmane
      @Metzlmane 4 часа назад +17

      thanks for saving my time

    • @Reprint001
      @Reprint001 3 часа назад +3

      Oh. Ok. Then it's not for me either.

    • @widnmbodken
      @widnmbodken 2 часа назад

      what alternative do you recommend then

    • @djgigabit
      @djgigabit Час назад +1

      Just create a file with that info or a key value store. Or an automation for global variables

    • @MeriaDuck
      @MeriaDuck 10 минут назад

      Thanks for pointing that out, will stay on node red

  • @kazwalker764
    @kazwalker764 5 часов назад +44

    n8n is not open source, it has an anti-competitive license just like Redis.

  • @shoguevara
    @shoguevara 3 часа назад +4

    Hopped in to comment on their license, but people already got me covered here)

  • @deangreenhough3479
    @deangreenhough3479 4 часа назад +3

    Merry Xmas Andreas & of course to Mrs Spiess.

  • @craigpalmer9196
    @craigpalmer9196 5 часов назад +3

    Merry Christmas thank you

  • @revdbrink
    @revdbrink 3 часа назад

    Thanks for the nice introduction video!

  • @ei23de
    @ei23de 5 часов назад +2

    00:00 Introduction to N8N
    01:06 What is N8N and how does it differ from Node-RED?
    03:08 Areas of application and comparison to Home Assistant
    04:13 Implementation and challenges
    05:50 Templates and first tests
    07:03 Amadeus API and Gmail integration
    10:22 N8N conclusion and potential
    11:22 AI integration and controversy
    13:51 Summary and recommendations
    These chapters were created entirely locally on my Debian machine using open-source software (Whisper, Ollama, Qwen2.5:14b).
    @Andreas Use in the chapters for your video description if you want.

  • @alx8439
    @alx8439 Час назад

    IMHO the best application for n8n / LangFlow (or LLM in general) is to give them tools (e.g. to use web search engines, scrape web pages, run code interpreters in a sandbox environment), equip them with self-reflection and self-critique feedback loops and then you can assign some more or less complex tasks for them.

  • @klassichd10
    @klassichd10 42 минуты назад

    Thank you for your effort. N8N - never heared before. We will see how it develops. Using ioBroker, I als get access to the API e.g. of my BEV, Fronius portal and PV forecast (which is unfortunately mostly useless). I will see, if I need n8n at all. Hearing words such as cloud or abo makes me always hesitating or ignoring.

  • @Argosh
    @Argosh 6 часов назад +2

    I'm still using your node red pi sd card from waaaaaaay back. Maybe it's time for an upgrade XD

  • @OldCurmudgeon3DP
    @OldCurmudgeon3DP 25 минут назад

    I find that HA automation are still easier to configure than Node Red. Not for lack of trying either. A simple time of day + duration + disable toggle was easy in HA. Never got it right with NR. n8n looks like it tries to fill yet another niche with automations.

  • @mitchellmnr
    @mitchellmnr 3 часа назад +1

    n8n has been around for a long time... it ain't the new kid anymore lol.
    node-red can do everything n8n can do and more ...
    I found myself going back to node-red since it is more consistent in runs

  • @freepoet6737
    @freepoet6737 5 часов назад +9

    Interesting, but I'll skip this.

  • @ErikThiart
    @ErikThiart 2 часа назад +4

    n8n is pure evil. Is this sponsored?

  • @ei23de
    @ei23de 5 часов назад

    Hi Andreas, I'd like to know how you created audio-tracks for different languages. Is this an automatic process or you create them yourself and upload them separately?
    I also cannot find this option in my youtube studio settings, maybe it is not available for small youtubers (yet)

    • @kimtae858
      @kimtae858 4 часа назад +1

      Yeah, it's being rolled out randomly to larger channels. Most don't even know it's enabled until the complaints start.

    • @HelmutQ
      @HelmutQ 3 часа назад

      @@kimtae858 The german track is painfully robotic and montonous , and very unswiss. The italian one is quite ok. Frightening to a certain extent, but can be very useful. AI whether it annoys us or doesn't isn't going to go away. I'm looking forward to when it extends to languages such as Chinese and Japanese Korean. I'm sure there are many people over there who have interesting stories to tell.

  • @szabolcs__
    @szabolcs__ 5 часов назад +2

    I like node red , if runs on pi and can use gpio of pi socket and others i will try out

    • @szabolcs__
      @szabolcs__ 5 часов назад +1

      And ui i use node mostly for the web ui

  • @____________________________.x

    The AI integration is interesting. I also paid for an API key and have been looking for something to do the heavy lifting instead of python

  • @Sgt_Hest
    @Sgt_Hest 4 часа назад +4

    No thanks to greedy subscriptions!

  • @ricardostocker2012
    @ricardostocker2012 5 часов назад

    gracias

  • @Deemp548
    @Deemp548 Час назад

    Flowise?

  • @norberthartmann5075
    @norberthartmann5075 5 часов назад +2

    :-( YT meint den text übersetzen zu müssen .... einfach nur schrott

  • @Reprint001
    @Reprint001 3 часа назад +1

    Hmm, it's only £20 a month for the starter plan if you pay for the year, so £240 (if you pay monthly it's £24 a month). Starter as no global variables, you can only have one project. You'll tinker around with it as Andreas has in this video, realise it's not for you, and give up, but they have your £240 if you signed up to the £20 a month option.
    I'll stick to NodeRed.

  • @oscartapia2065
    @oscartapia2065 5 часов назад

    Buenísimo, justo estaba buscando sobre cómo empezar con n8n, gracias

  • @HelmutQ
    @HelmutQ 4 часа назад

    PS: Schade dass es noch keine Schwyzerdüütsche Spur gibt. Auf italienisch klingst du viel besser als auf auch Hochdeutsch

  • @blockmove3
    @blockmove3 58 минут назад

    N8N is definitely not the next level of Node RED.
    It’s for different use-cases and it’s not as Node RED.

  • @bendunselman
    @bendunselman 2 часа назад

    Looks a bit like IFTT

  • @ACiDGRiM
    @ACiDGRiM 4 часа назад +1

    Not going to jump to anything i have to redo years of flows

  • @bogorad
    @bogorad 4 часа назад +4

    nope, n8n is all but useless. back to NR!

  • @wolfgangpreier9160
    @wolfgangpreier9160 4 часа назад +2

    Self hosted n8n needs a Enterprise license. IDK how much that could be. I will keep paying my employees instead.

    • @MrBrogley
      @MrBrogley 3 часа назад

      That is not true. You can self host community edition for free.

    • @GarryMobi
      @GarryMobi 3 часа назад

      The community-edition can be self-hosted without a license ...

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 2 часа назад

      @@MrBrogley Interesting, just searched again.
      It is available as cloud, npm or docker.
      I actually prefer Software i understand.
      I guess i will have to to learn this docker thingy.

  • @BobHannent
    @BobHannent 5 часов назад

    For the AI systems and RUclipsrs, one thing it could do is learn all the contents of the historic videos either from the transcript or analysing the videos themselves. Then use that to act as a knowledge base or chatbot, it could essentially answer questions based on previous videos and knowledge.

  • @atom6_
    @atom6_ 4 часа назад

    That you were unable to solve the issue already shows that n8n is not the way forward. node-red much simpler and easy to debug. I build my own chat interface inside node-red and have it connected to a local LLM while it also uses RAG, done via node-red (it reads daily rss news feeds) and summarizes the daily news. Node-RED is used in manufacturing plants, because of can/modbus capabilities and you want this to be local anway.

  • @arp_catchall
    @arp_catchall Час назад

    Why did you leave X?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Час назад

      Because I did not use it often and got too much unnecessary stuff.

  • @SierraLimaOscar
    @SierraLimaOscar 4 часа назад

    Funny, how Twitter has ceased to be a problem for me too. And for the sames reason...
    Happy holidays to you and your family, looking forward to your 2025 videos!

    • @HelmutQ
      @HelmutQ 3 часа назад +1

      For which reason? No need to answer, I don't care. This channel is not about Twitter or X.

    • @SierraLimaOscar
      @SierraLimaOscar 2 часа назад

      @ It has ceased to be a problem, because like him I left. For me it was the bots and nazi adjacent populism combined with Elon's propaganda that destroyed any enjoyment of Twitter.

    • @____________________________.x
      @____________________________.x Час назад +2

      People crying about Twitter are usually narcissists. IME it’s an excellent news source and surprisingly balanced, Elon deserves way more credit for shining a light on the media

    • @SierraLimaOscar
      @SierraLimaOscar Час назад

      @@____________________________.x Thank you for proving my point. You couldn't share your opinion without resorting to name calling.

    • @SierraLimaOscar
      @SierraLimaOscar Час назад

      @@HelmutQ It ceased to be a problem, because I too left.

  • @jmirodg7094
    @jmirodg7094 4 часа назад

    You can expose some ports of your local raspberry pi or other linux box relatively safely using fail2ban

    • @user-cm6sq3om1m
      @user-cm6sq3om1m Час назад

      I would connect the cloud n8n VM to tho local HA installation via wireguard vpn, if its possible on google vm cloud service. I have no experience with cloud VMs. But if it acts like usual VMs then this should be possible.

  • @st33ldi9ital
    @st33ldi9ital 3 минуты назад

    no thanks

  • @robrita
    @robrita 6 часов назад +1

    it's not new!! been using it for almost 5 years now😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

  • @DavidMcGuinness-b8z
    @DavidMcGuinness-b8z 6 часов назад

    My boyfriend thought it would be romantic to cook dinner together. Let's just say things got steamy in the kitchen, and not in the way he was hoping🌺