Dylan Talks Tone Guitar setup - Pickup Height
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This channel deserves more attention. This is very good information given in a basic practical manner so that the tech dummy like myself can understand. Keep it up!
Sean Van Wyk thank you so much. Please share as much as you can!!
I like how you give people a starting point and then encourage people to experiment and be creative with their own pickups, then you still get thumbed-down. Man, some people just can't be pleased. Great video.
#1 underrated music gear channel. Keep up the honest work my dude
You are right about the pickup hith
. I lower my pickups way down , it makes the guitar sound sweeter .
Of all the good info Dylan drops in this vid, the most important is in giving a guitar you are having trouble with a "restart". Pretend you just brought it home and start with a complete inspection and neck setup, taking nothing for granted. Maybe change up some of your flexible settings like string height. Some players think that the lowest string height you can achieve without buzz is the best. Challenge that assumption. You might be surprised.
Chris Cook great input!
Best channel concerning guitar information on youtube, amazing video as usual.
Had to convert to metric. 3.8 mm (what can I say, Europe is weird)
Turns out I was pretty much spot on with what you said. Nice.
Yet another great, informative and accurate video. Cheers Dylan.
mm are much better and logic with the way numbers and math work
Most excellent video for semi-techs like me. The two dimes did the trick for me. Thanks.
I remember when I was young and starting out and having a hell of a time getting a decent tone out off a guitar, of course as a kid higher is stronger is better, somebody at a music store told me to lower my pickups, thay is perhaps the best advice I've ever gotten on tone on a strat, humbuckers, just crank it.
everytime I need some pickup advice or whatever, I turn to your videos
thanks again dude!
Note- In my experience with a 3 pickup, H-S-S configuration, setting the middle single coil pickup almost all the way down will yield the most "chime" when using the humbucker and middle pickup together (i.e.- the #2 switch position). Not everyone's preference, but mine for sure. Thanks.
gr8 advice . no big " hey I'm the only guy who Knows! " stuff .. makes me believe in & trust him .. I wish he worked in our local garage .. those mechanics really take advantage when you don't know .. So glad to find someone who is honest . From an old muso in Ye olde Forest of Englande .. tired of being ripped off by guitar techs I am trying to teach myself . Thanks Dylan .
Finally someone knows that magnet pull is such an insignificant factor in regards to sustain and all that. I'm not going into why pickups too close to strings affect sustain again. But the main reason has nothing to do with magnetic pull on strings.
Everything you said is correct, but important to note that the amp (vol) setting when talking pickup adjustment is just as important. One might do the adjustment as the amp set up at room volume (relatively low) then at practice or gig (while amp volume increases) things will change, what I do, is set it up while my amp is at it’s loudest CLAEN sound (that I like) then adjust the pickups at that point.
Hello Dylan! My basic adjustment of the pickupheight is finding first the highest position , and from there I ajust down to my taste. The highest position is right below where the low E frettet at the 19th played clean starts to sound worbly, not as a clean constant note. Then I lower the pup at least one turn of the mounting screw. I can agree with you, that lowering the pup, makes the sound nicer, more musical. But same time loosing bit of trebble. You can compensate that with amp-settings, or (and) replacing the pots with higher value...
I played with a guy who hand a Less Paul with the pickups a bit lower than the rings. What he was after was making his Marshall work harder and give a smoother overdrive. He did have a really smooth sound. I've tried it and it works. Pickup hight really is subjective. If you play a lot of stuff where you need to turn the pickup down to get the growl your looking for try lowering the pickup.
Dylan,
A Happy Pandemic Sunday to you & yours.
I've got a nice Tele HH, played through a Fender BassMaster, with various pedals, which often sounds as if she's trying to sing through 3 feet of muddy pond water. I can crank Trebel(s) up and/or press the BRIGHT button and/or play cleanly through channel 1 to get close to what I want...I believe, however, that the problem may be the entire "upgraded" controls, which has 4 knobs in total = a tone control ring situated beneath the Volume ring for BOTH bass & treble as well as the 3 way switch...i believe in "less is more" & feel this set-up may be trying to be too clever...and, after watching various DTT vids, think the controls, as a unit, may simply be sub-par.
Looking forward to your thoughts and towards remedying this angst-y situation.
Thank you for all your videos, expertise & insight.
Very truly,
johnjohn
* I'm happy to send any and all pix/info you might want. - j
Helpful info, thanks Dylan. Per comments from others, maybe reference dimensions in 1/64" or 1/32" increments would be helpful, as many steel rulers used for visual adjustment have those imperial measurements. Note that according to my calculator, 8/64" = .125, 9/64" = .141, 10/64" = .156.
The best advise i ever got vis a vis pickup height is to go "as low as possible" (obviously within reason) and to use the amp to get your level. This opens up any pup tremendously and makes it more dynamic and fuller in range. It is just what i find appealing but i don't think many try this and the "go to" philosophy is to go higher instead of lower as people are attracted to that initial increase in power when they raise the pickups not realizing their amp is on 4 or thereabouts. All of my pups ( 5 electrics) are just about under their respective chassis (pickguards, pickup rings etc) --
Thanks a lot. I needed some logical input on pickup hight after working on my Tele neck pickup.
I watch your videos with the thought in my mind that "these are not paid opinions". That's why I like these so much. Just changed my new pickups during the holidays, everything else is set, height is the last thing. Thanks for these videos!
.150" pickup height. Good tip! Excellent place to start or just leave it there.
If you are not a machinist, 150 thou is around 5/32" or better still 3.8mm (close enough 3.5mm if a bit smaller is better)
Have never seen a dime to help with how thick that is.
Personally I adjust the height of the pickups, with more about volume than height. Particularly adjusting so that the pickups are the same volume with each other, or however the preference.
DYLAN, can you show in a video how to adjust the pickup height in a strat to make each position get the most QUACK because that is the hardest part is getting to more QUACK, any tips on what to do.
This might be a weird question, but weird mostly suits me very well... :P When Talking about phase, I assume we're talking about 360 degrees. How do I get an impression of where I am within those 360 degrees and what position should I be looking for that specific Strat sound? Probably my autism, but I have an obsessive need to picture in my mind what Im doing, even for sound. I always need to verify something I have to judge by ear by now it 'looks' in my head. Does it have to do with the transition point from north to south within the poles as 0 degrees and the end of the poles as the opposite? And for 2 pickups to be in phase, should the transition point of both pickups be at the same height? Or would it be better to look at the top or bottom of the magnets as 0 degrees, in case of difference in height of the poles?
I don't want it to end!
Kind of off topic: What are your thoughts on staggering of pole pieces on a telecaster bridge/neck pup?
I watched several of your vids today and they're very good. Informative and not boring.
+stringsthings staggering of pole pieces on any pup's --- 99% marketing --- almost nothing
Your videos really helped me out a lot thank you for all of them
I set the neck pickup high and keep lowering until I get a pure note that rings out and sustains. Then I set the bridge to match. I have some guitars where the neck humbucker is 1.6mm away and others where the neck is 5mm away it just depends on the type of pickup.
Piece of advice: if you set your pickups too close to the strings, you will have an unwanted effect in your tone when pickup magnets will affect the vibration of the string. If you start hearing overtones, wobbling etc, then lower your pickups.
Antti Saari we have a video on that. Check it out.
Ok, I did and I'm quite confused. I do get your math about the subject and it kinda makes sense. However, I had this issue in one of my guitars some time ago. Don't know if I had bad pickups or something else wrong there, but the issue was solved by lowering the pickups slightly. Therefore I thought it must have been that the pickups were too close to the strings and affected by the magnet. Wondering what else could it have been..?
My pickups are tightened as far as they can be and there's still 3/4" space between the pickup and the string. Any solutions? Different springs or height screws? Deeper cavity? Anything? Pretty sure it's the pickups because the old ones had no problems.
When adjusting pickup volume, would it make sense to play the guitar into a DAW on your computer and measure the levels of the pickups there? I recon this would give you the most precise reading. What do you think?
for each pick up you can also set the pickup height for low strings and high strings differently
According to Fender , Hi E 1/16 of an inch or 1.6mm.Low e 6th string 3/32 nds.or 2.4mm. Then adjust for balance.This is for Strats. For those who want to start at factory specs.Peace
I believe you dont mean 1/6mm is in between string and pick-up,do you?
@@phitoman6964 According to Fender .1.6 mm.
@@Wildman9 yeah but I dont understand is it between string and pick-up or is it pick-up stick out of pickguard by 1.6mm
@@phitoman6964 Its the distance between the string and top of pole piece. Not the heights of the pickups.The pickup heights are 5/64 on the bass side and 3/64 on the treble side. But those are just suggestions from the factory. Your string size has a lot to do with it also. That's what I set up. Of course with different pickups everything will change like ,humbucker ,vintage style,lace sensors,EMGs.etc.Those measurements will all be different. Hope that helps .
What kind of vol/tone knobs do you have on your Strat? Very unique indeed!
Why pickup height always move even the screws due to time? What causes vibrations? Or humidity?
Common sense! Love it.
Love Your videos. Got one for you I would love to see. How about one on the ‘mythical’
Staple pickup? As you know they are a rare pickup which predate the standard P90 and was used by Gibson in archtop as well as LP’s
It is still available as a special order item and a few makers like Lollar and SD also make them. Love to hear a live one and see what they are supposed to sound like. What do you think? Thanks. Shally
Changing the height adjustment screws on my pickups, Can it be done without removing the pickup from the guitar??
Would it be deemed good practice to raise the bass side n slightly lower the treble side on my humbuckers? The reason I do this is I dont like my higher notes to be too trebly or ear piercing but I like the bass side brighter.
Bass side of the pickup closer to the strings than the treble side of the pickups. Closer the pickup to strings more treble but the low strings can become muddy. Lower the pickups from the strings more bass.
I've heardsome people, like Dave Simpson say they have their pickups level with the body, on a strat, what are the physics of that? Does it give extra clarity? Thanks.
very very good video... 👍👍👍
What about a single pickup guitar?
I started experimenting with pickup height on my '09 American Standard Strat SSS with Fender stock pickups because I was getting a weird, warbling tone on the low E and A strings. I tried forever to determine it's cause to no avail. I had them set to Fender manual specification height. But, once I started lowering them, the warbling tone disappeared, and the overall tone opened-up to that stratty tone that is great for blues. Also, my headroom increased due to less drive amplitude (through a '68 AB165 Bassman Amp). I've often wondered if there is a good, low output single coil replacement that might provide more setup options. With the stock pickups, they're nearly decked to the pickguard. I would appreciate any helpful suggestions.
How tick is a dime or a nickel???
Hi, what's the neck rest you are using in this video?
yeah, i pretty much deck the middle pickup in my strat for max quack ... as for individual pole piece pickups, can you talk a bit about adjusting individual pole piece heights to achieve balance across the pickup - man, i seem to get 'disappearing B strings' no matter what guitar i play
With close pickups you get a punchy focused sound, setting them further away and it gets airier and more open sounding. To my ears anyway.
Adjust to sound. Whether its a nickel, 2 dimes or a rusty nail. Ears are the tool you need to use. Theres no secret
I don't have Dimes or Nickles (In UK) Please give us in 32th" or mm?? Thanks! Nice tutorial!
good point !
liked the vid mate but 1/150,000 or 150/1,000 how many mill....i just can't read inches
It's 3.8mm (approximately). Hope that helps you.
@@garylaverty6607 thanks Gary
I hate measurement talk. Why cant you just go 2mm Low E. 1.5mm High e. Any fine tuning adjust +/- .5mm or less. Using stewmacs pickup allen key whatever tool that is just takes all this measuring talk out of the way.
Just grab your 2mm and 1.5mm allen key, press last fret and measure and you're done less than 5 minutes.
lol.... yeah doing it right is so annoying
Give us metric measurements not all stuck in the dark ages
Come on! Man up! Numbers are numbers. It's not hard. If you must, use a calculator until you can do approximate conversions on the fly. Take up metal machining as a hobby. You'll use all three systems (Imperial Fractional, Imperial Decimal, and Metric) interchangeably, without even thinking about it. You shouldn't expect that you'll always be provided the information you want with no effort on your part.
I keep seeing this guy on my stream. He talks pure rubbish and then tonight he tops it off. What height should the pickup be. 2 dimes. You are online for the whole world dude. Dude is nice by the way. Also you take 4 weeks to get to an answer...... if you have one. Ffs
When adjusting pickup volume, would it make sense to play the guitar into a DAW on your computer and measure the levels of the pickups there? I recon this would give you the most precise reading. What do you think?
When adjusting pickup volume, would it make sense to play the guitar into a DAW on your computer and measure the levels of the pickups there? I recon this would give you the most precise reading. What do you think?
When adjusting pickup volume, would it make sense to play the guitar into a DAW on your computer and measure the levels of the pickups there? I recon this would give you the most precise reading. What do you think?
When adjusting pickup volume, would it make sense to play the guitar into a DAW on your computer and measure the levels of the pickups there? I recon this would give you the most precise reading. What do you think?
Human hearing doesn't necessarily correlate to strict numerical measurement. Just use your ears.
When adjusting pickup volume, would it make sense to play the guitar into a DAW on your computer and measure the levels of the pickups there? I recon this would give you the most precise reading. What do you think?