@@jeffshootsstuff I went to a place in Indiana that sells the last of the spare parts for Armi San Marco guns, spent a lot there so the guy sold me the 1860 Army for like $250, so wasn't a huge loss. But yea, I've seen some videos on aging these black powder revolvers. Blackie Thomas has a series on it.
@@discipleochrist4202 yea, so the story goes that when Armi San Marco went out of business, it was due to tax purposes. So a guy went over to Italy and took a gigantic amount of their spare parts that they had before it all got shut down. Place is called Deer Creek Products in Walden Indiana. Was about a 4 hour drive from where I'm at in Illinois. I have a few Armi San Marco guns made in the 1970's and 1980's, so sadly they didn't have the parts I needed entirely. But I did get some stuff I needed, and I snagged that 1860 Army dirt cheap.
I got one of those.a few years back didn't like it looked like had been put in a tumbler I scotch Brite it all off an let do what ever it wants changed.the grips turned out nice
The old Colt has a much larger loading port for loading conical bullets into the cylinder. I hope the people at Pietta will address this issue. Who wants to take a Dremel to a brand new firearm to overcome this problem themselves. I mean this problem can be easily fixed but I would like to see the gun come from the factory without any need for home modifications.
Nice shooter out of the box without a miss in the first 6 shots! I was about 15 to 18 yards distance away in the video I posted on my channel shooting my Uberti 1858 new model army revolver using my Howell .45 colt cartridge conversion cylinder at the small cantaloupe I was shooting with both hands which was smaller than the plate and I only hit it at most a handful of times out of 20 shots fired
Pietta seems to be gaining on Uberti in regards to quality. I can remember having a very crappy pietta 1851 navy .36 and a very crappy pietta 1858 police model .36 back yonder about 9 years ago in 2014 and I swore off of pietta repros after that. I had a really nice Uberti 1851 navy .36 after I got rid of them piettas and straight out of the box at that same distance using 2 hands I got a nice 6 inch center mass group in the first 6 shots fired. I shoot colt styles better than Remington styles but I prefer the Remington styles for drop in cartridge conversion cylinder usage and for the lack of wedges and the less screws. I shoot colt styles the same way you do rotating it to the right when cocking the hammer after the first shot to prevent cap swallowing. I used to love Remington brand caps but it’s a lot easier to get HSM .45 colt 200 grain cowboy loads than it is to get any caps nowadays especially the Remington brand
Have you found the HSM cowboy loads to be consistent? IME they're pretty sensitive to powder position and each shot feels different. You're right about primers... times are crazy.
I find them to pretty much hit at about 15 to 18 yards within an area that would be on an average sized man’s torso if I aimed directly at the center of the torso. Some shots hit up to 8 inches high and others hit point of aim but usually they hit to the left by up to 4 inches and slightly high but if I’m shooting at a closer distance of about 10 to 12 yards I hit better with it. Not as high and not as much to the left
What a great video, i enjoyed your comparison of the three pistols at the beginning and the shooting was very cool. I have shot my .50 cal Hawkin rifle for decades and just ordered a Kibler .54 cal Woods Runner kit. It seems i am getting into black powder more, but have never owner a BP revolver. Thanks for the comparison between the original and the Pietta. Is that your private range?
Not sure. Where are you seeing it listed as “antique”? I can only assume it’s the same but I can’t say for certain. I know the “Old Silver” is different.
I believe 2021 was the last year for the barrel roll engravings. Mine is a 2021 and has it, but the new ones definitely dont. Like the looks of that old west finish. Thanks for sharing with us!
Thanks for the info! The last two Piettas I’ve gotten have the new barrel markings. They’re much better looking. I wish they’d just put them under the barrel.
@@jeffshootsstuff I 100% agree. Anywhere would be better than the sides of the barrel. I'm not sure if there are patents protecting locations for those warnings...Uberti being Benelli made might have one. But it sticks out like a sore thumb on the pietta's. If they moved the markings, Uberti would have some tough competition as far as historical accuracy goes.
Hola,precioso revolver,yo lo tengo desde hace años y me agrupa muy bien con bola 44, 40 ,24 greins pólvora suiza fff y sémola de trigo para rellenar la recámara asta la bola, saludos desde españa
Not sure what issue I have with the grip strap. Can you be more specific? I don’t remember having any issue with it. It is steel and the underside is also steel. The front of the grip and trigger guard is brass as it should be
Never could understand why some fool would pay extra to get a gun that looks like it's been beat to hell. These guns were issued to our troops as new and blued.
Not a big fan of Pietta, mainly because of the lack of historical correctness that can be found on many of their cap and ball replicas (non historic looking hardware, barrel lengths that aren't true to the originals, proof marks and stamps all of the frame and barrel, and they even offer a few models or versions that didn't even exist). The "old west finish" looks pretty good though. All of my cap and ball replicas are Uberti, and I recently bought one of the Uberti 1860 Army revolvers in "antique finish", and couldn't be happier. I love the comparison with the original.
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I would love to see a detailed comparison of the old naval scene on the cylinder vs the new laser engraved naval scene no the new cylinders.
Great idea! I’ll try to get that done this week. Are you sure the new ones are laser engraved and not rolled?
I just gave away my Pietta 1860 Army. I didn't care for the polished bluing. But this style I do like.
Gave it away? Lucky person that got it! You can always remove the bluing if you don’t like it as is.
@@jeffshootsstuff I went to a place in Indiana that sells the last of the spare parts for Armi San Marco guns, spent a lot there so the guy sold me the 1860 Army for like $250, so wasn't a huge loss. But yea, I've seen some videos on aging these black powder revolvers. Blackie Thomas has a series on it.
@@yearight1205 i have quite a few ASM spare parts
@@discipleochrist4202 yea, so the story goes that when Armi San Marco went out of business, it was due to tax purposes. So a guy went over to Italy and took a gigantic amount of their spare parts that they had before it all got shut down. Place is called Deer Creek Products in Walden Indiana. Was about a 4 hour drive from where I'm at in Illinois. I have a few Armi San Marco guns made in the 1970's and 1980's, so sadly they didn't have the parts I needed entirely. But I did get some stuff I needed, and I snagged that 1860 Army dirt cheap.
I've done quite a few transactions with them over the years, i too have many ASM guns and parts from the early 80's
I got one of those.a few years back didn't like it looked like had been put in a tumbler I scotch Brite it all off an let do what ever it wants changed.the grips turned out nice
Cool!
Buddy that thing is absolutely beautiful! Thanks for sharing. Thumbs up video ~John
Thanks!
The old Colt has a much larger loading port for loading conical bullets into the cylinder. I hope the people at Pietta will address this issue. Who wants to take a Dremel to a brand new firearm to overcome this problem themselves. I mean this problem can be easily fixed but I would like to see the gun come from the factory without any need for home modifications.
Agreed. It’s silly that they haven’t remedied this.
Very good video my new friend
Thanks and welcome
It looks great.
Thanks!
well done review thanks for posting safe journeys
Thanks for watching!
My favorite channel posting again!!!!
How’s that old silver 51’ navy holding up? How does the finish look on it now?
I haven’t shot it much. There are a couple of patches of black spots where powder fouling stained the finish.
@@jeffshootsstuff barkeeper's friend will polish it back up nicely. Use it on silver all the time.
Thanks, I’ll try it!
When i get one ,im going to take off the bill board crap
Let us know how it goes
Nice shooter out of the box without a miss in the first 6 shots! I was about 15 to 18 yards distance away in the video I posted on my channel shooting my Uberti 1858 new model army revolver using my Howell .45 colt cartridge conversion cylinder at the small cantaloupe I was shooting with both hands which was smaller than the plate and I only hit it at most a handful of times out of 20 shots fired
Sometimes things work out LOL
Pietta seems to be gaining on Uberti in regards to quality. I can remember having a very crappy pietta 1851 navy .36 and a very crappy pietta 1858 police model .36 back yonder about 9 years ago in 2014 and I swore off of pietta repros after that. I had a really nice Uberti 1851 navy .36 after I got rid of them piettas and straight out of the box at that same distance using 2 hands I got a nice 6 inch center mass group in the first 6 shots fired. I shoot colt styles better than Remington styles but I prefer the Remington styles for drop in cartridge conversion cylinder usage and for the lack of wedges and the less screws. I shoot colt styles the same way you do rotating it to the right when cocking the hammer after the first shot to prevent cap swallowing. I used to love Remington brand caps but it’s a lot easier to get HSM .45 colt 200 grain cowboy loads than it is to get any caps nowadays especially the Remington brand
Have you found the HSM cowboy loads to be consistent? IME they're pretty sensitive to powder position and each shot feels different. You're right about primers... times are crazy.
I find them to pretty much hit at about 15 to 18 yards within an area that would be on an average sized man’s torso if I aimed directly at the center of the torso. Some shots hit up to 8 inches high and others hit point of aim but usually they hit to the left by up to 4 inches and slightly high but if I’m shooting at a closer distance of about 10 to 12 yards I hit better with it. Not as high and not as much to the left
Have you shot other ammo? that seems pretty inconsistent accuracy-wise.
What a great video, i enjoyed your comparison of the three pistols at the beginning and the shooting was very cool. I have shot my .50 cal Hawkin rifle for decades and just ordered a Kibler .54 cal Woods Runner kit. It seems i am getting into black powder more, but have never owner a BP revolver. Thanks for the comparison between the original and the Pietta. Is that your private range?
Batcave. Let us know about the Kibler. I’ve been wondering about them. They sure have a good reputation!
Hello, watching your video I noticed that your holster was really beautiful ;)
Could you tell me where you bought it please!
Sincerely,
Olivier
Sure! Graveyard Jack Leather on Etsy.
www.etsy.com/shop/GraveyardJackLeather?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=984464713
@@jeffshootsstuff Thank you very much :) have a nice weekend
Hey sir is this the same as their “antique finish?” Thanks in advance sir
Not sure. Where are you seeing it listed as “antique”? I can only assume it’s the same but I can’t say for certain. I know the “Old Silver” is different.
I believe 2021 was the last year for the barrel roll engravings. Mine is a 2021 and has it, but the new ones definitely dont. Like the looks of that old west finish. Thanks for sharing with us!
Thanks for the info! The last two Piettas I’ve gotten have the new barrel markings. They’re much better looking. I wish they’d just put them under the barrel.
@@jeffshootsstuff I 100% agree. Anywhere would be better than the sides of the barrel. I'm not sure if there are patents protecting locations for those warnings...Uberti being Benelli made might have one. But it sticks out like a sore thumb on the pietta's. If they moved the markings, Uberti would have some tough competition as far as historical accuracy goes.
Hola,precioso revolver,yo lo tengo desde hace años y me agrupa muy bien con bola 44, 40 ,24 greins pólvora suiza fff y sémola de trigo para rellenar la recámara asta la bola, saludos desde españa
Saludos y gracias!
And what is the stain around the biggest screw above the trigger?
Just remaining bluing/color case hardening after they removed most of it during the aging process.
Have you tried Uberti replicas?
I have an uberti walker which has been excellent.
Please explain what you believe is the issue with the grip strap since the underside appears to be brass and the upper or back appears to be steel.
Not sure what issue I have with the grip strap. Can you be more specific? I don’t remember having any issue with it. It is steel and the underside is also steel. The front of the grip and trigger guard is brass as it should be
Is there any identification on the holster (make and model) on the right side of your work surface in this video?
Holster is a California slim made by Graveyard Jack’s gunleather. You can find him on Etsy
What did you get from Taylor’s (box in bottom foreground) ?
I think that’s the box for the Uberti 1875 Remington but I may be wrong :D
Never could understand why some fool would pay extra to get a gun that looks like it's been beat to hell. These guns were issued to our troops as new and blued.
Okeedoke
Not a big fan of Pietta, mainly because of the lack of historical correctness that can be found on many of their cap and ball replicas (non historic looking hardware, barrel lengths that aren't true to the originals, proof marks and stamps all of the frame and barrel, and they even offer a few models or versions that didn't even exist). The "old west finish" looks pretty good though. All of my cap and ball replicas are Uberti, and I recently bought one of the Uberti 1860 Army revolvers in "antique finish", and couldn't be happier. I love the comparison with the original.
Thanks. Ubertis all have short arbors so if you shoot it a lot you’ll want to address that FYI. They do look good though.
Suggestion: ...hold the @#%$ gun still!
Duly noted
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You don’t know the date of manufacture on the gun?🙄
Why, do you?