To a certain extent, yes. Running on harder surfaces increases shock to your tibial bones and patella which can lead to shin splints, patellar tendonitis, and possibly even stress fractures. Limit the time you run on hard surfaces and make sure you have a good pair of neutral-cushioned trainers to avoid causing this type of stress to your legs.
Robert Harrington LOL you need some help my friend. That's midfoot. Heel strike is foot facing up. He has never once hit his heel first in his career. Must be a troll.
Is everyone who disagrees with you a troll? There must be by your reckoning 8 billion trolls in the world. I think the video footage pretty much speaks for itself when Hall's heel hits the ground ahead of the rest of the foot. Just barely, but it nips the rest of the soul at strike point. Take a second look. Remember to leave your 'never hit his heel first in his career' prejudice at the door.
To establish muscle-memory connection. When running @ 5K goal pace, you will be able to get a feel of that pace and come race day you'll be able to judge how fast you're going on effort rather than focusing on say the pace on your GPS.
If you're doing intervals and don't have a GPS or way to measure, you can use google earth. Find the area you want to train in, find easily identifiable landmarks (a street, park, building) and measure out the distance that way.
I do the same thing, I don't have a track available to me so I just measure out distances in this one big field close to where I live. Only thing is that the field is grassy and uneven so it's probably not the best surface but oh well.
@Cris18Martinez Maybe you can use the gps that comes in most phones and measure the distance so when you go to some point you already know how many miles there are.
@invizaman7 ik its a little late haha but its not really good. the impact hurts your ankles and knees BUT its ok to get a little bit of running on the pavement maybe twice a week or a little bit here and there. stick to trails if u can =b pavements almost unavoidable sometimes
That's what Daniels says, do the 5k intervals at like 5 secs/mile faster than current 5k pace. I think the coach here is talking about goal pace, which is probably faster than their current ability. Maybe.
I run in high school so dont be mad if this response isnt expert enough for you......running on pavement or assphalt can lead to shin splints and knee problems so that is why ppl think it is bad. However, you can train on road or assphalt sometimes and feel no pain. Try not to do it everyday tho.
Getting back to track intervals, quarters basically. Working at 2:00 or better, eventually hopefully 1:30 per quarter, 8 quarters last week, maybe 12 this week, eventually 16 or 20 quarters. Currently leaving every 4:00. So should I cut the rest and leave on the 3:00 even if it slows me down?
+stluciestrength my advice is to cut them out all together and just focus on easy running and fartlicks with some strider's a couple days a week, once you get down to about 8 minute pace on your easy runs then slowly add in track intervals
@TheZoelzer2 not everyone has the problem. and just cause u don't have splints now doesn't mean you won't in the future =b lots of runners have knee problems later in life. not all but many of them =b
I never said that he was better then the Kenyans or African runners, what I meant by "whatever he is doing is working" is that he is running a 2:03 marathon. Which i'm pretty sure is like less then 4 minutes off the world record. So yes whatever he is doing is working well so there is no need to change it.
Another nice tool to measure distances is MapMyRUN (website). I think the map is pretty similar to Google Earth, and you can also directly log the route/pace/etc. right there.
And that's my point. Winning Boston is every distance runner's goal. If the question is could he be faster, of course. Will this drill video get him there? God No.... He could easily be running 20% faster. And that would put him on the winner's podium.
Sports Jester do you know who Ryan Hall is? He is considered one of the best marathon runners ever. It just doesn't make a lot of sense you saying his training method is wrong.
Of course I know who he is. The only question is can he be improved. You think he can't and I know he can. And since he hasn't won boston, tells me he has plenty of room to improve his running skills.
Hey Ryan, Classic training mistake; pushing speed in hoping your body figures out efficiency, rather than focusing on efficiency knowing speed is the byproduct. The best distance runners in the world are the sons of the best walkers in the world. The women of Kenya carry 20% of their bodyweight with no increase in energy expenditure, which explains why they win. How they do it is the science of efficiency. Want to learn it?
Lets see..... Maybe its because Kenyans have been dominating distance running since the 80's and no US born, raised or trained athlete has beat them despite the millions in money and millions more in training hours which in the end are a complete failure. African distance runners don't run like we do, don't walk like we do, and expend 20% less energy per step than we do. They aren't faster because they train barefoot, we're slower because our technique has been destroyed by shoes.
I love how they're nodding there head at the beginning, acting like they have no idea what a speed workout is
To a certain extent, yes. Running on harder surfaces increases shock to your tibial bones and patella which can lead to shin splints, patellar tendonitis, and possibly even stress fractures. Limit the time you run on hard surfaces and make sure you have a good pair of neutral-cushioned trainers to avoid causing this type of stress to your legs.
Look at Ryan's legendary perfect midstrike.
He's a heel-striker. Check out the slomo at 3:00+.
Robert Harrington LOL you need some help my friend. That's midfoot. Heel strike is foot facing up. He has never once hit his heel first in his career. Must be a troll.
Is everyone who disagrees with you a troll? There must be by your reckoning 8 billion trolls in the world. I think the video footage pretty much speaks for itself when Hall's heel hits the ground ahead of the rest of the foot. Just barely, but it nips the rest of the soul at strike point. Take a second look. Remember to leave your 'never hit his heel first in his career' prejudice at the door.
+Robert Harrington would you enlighten us where exactly you see a heel strike in this video (min:sec)?
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To establish muscle-memory connection. When running @ 5K goal pace, you will be able to get a feel of that pace and come race day you'll be able to judge how fast you're going on effort rather than focusing on say the pace on your GPS.
Doesn't Josh Cox's running look asymmetrical? 4:15
If you're doing intervals and don't have a GPS or way to measure, you can use google earth. Find the area you want to train in, find easily identifiable landmarks (a street, park, building) and measure out the distance that way.
I do the same thing, I don't have a track available to me so I just measure out distances in this one big field close to where I live. Only thing is that the field is grassy and uneven so it's probably not the best surface but oh well.
@Cris18Martinez Maybe you can use the gps that comes in most phones and
measure the distance so when you go to some point you already know
how many miles there are.
@invizaman7 ik its a little late haha but its not really good. the impact hurts your ankles and knees BUT its ok to get a little bit of running on the pavement maybe twice a week or a little bit here and there. stick to trails if u can =b pavements almost unavoidable sometimes
That's what Daniels says, do the 5k intervals at like 5 secs/mile faster than current 5k pace. I think the coach here is talking about goal pace, which is probably faster than their current ability. Maybe.
I run in high school so dont be mad if this response isnt expert enough for you......running on pavement or assphalt can lead to shin splints and knee problems so that is why ppl think it is bad. However, you can train on road or assphalt sometimes and feel no pain. Try not to do it everyday tho.
Getting back to track intervals, quarters basically. Working at 2:00 or better, eventually hopefully 1:30 per quarter, 8 quarters last week, maybe 12 this week, eventually 16 or 20 quarters. Currently leaving every 4:00. So should I cut the rest and leave on the 3:00 even if it slows me down?
+stluciestrength my advice is to cut them out all together and just focus on easy running and fartlicks with some strider's a couple days a week, once you get down to about 8 minute pace on your easy runs then slowly add in track intervals
@TheZoelzer2 not everyone has the problem. and just cause u don't have splints now doesn't mean you won't in the future =b lots of runners have knee problems later in life. not all but many of them =b
I never said that he was better then the Kenyans or African runners, what I meant by "whatever he is doing is working" is that he is running a 2:03 marathon. Which i'm pretty sure is like less then 4 minutes off the world record. So yes whatever he is doing is working well so there is no need to change it.
is running on pavment or assphalt bad for you?
Another nice tool to measure distances is MapMyRUN (website). I think the map is pretty similar to Google Earth, and you can also directly log the route/pace/etc. right there.
@Kazooiie02 i run on the road, doesnt hurt my legs. i wear the most cusioned shoes there are.
And that's my point. Winning Boston is every distance runner's goal. If the question is could he be faster, of course. Will this drill video get him there? God No....
He could easily be running 20% faster. And that would put him on the winner's podium.
I had to do a double take - it looked like Matt Damon was there - but no, really it was Josh.
Sports Jester do you know who Ryan Hall is? He is considered one of the best marathon runners ever. It just doesn't make a lot of sense you saying his training method is wrong.
why run the intervals at your 5k pace. wouldn't it be better to run them a little faster. Isn't that the whole idea?
Of course I know who he is. The only question is can he be improved. You think he can't and I know he can. And since he hasn't won boston, tells me he has plenty of room to improve his running skills.
Hey Ryan,
Classic training mistake; pushing speed in hoping your body figures out efficiency, rather than focusing on efficiency knowing speed is the byproduct.
The best distance runners in the world are the sons of the best walkers in the world. The women of Kenya carry 20% of their bodyweight with no increase in energy expenditure, which explains why they win. How they do it is the science of efficiency. Want to learn it?
Lets see.....
Maybe its because Kenyans have been dominating distance running since the 80's and no US born, raised or trained athlete has beat them despite the millions in money and millions more in training hours which in the end are a complete failure. African distance runners don't run like we do, don't walk like we do, and expend 20% less energy per step than we do. They aren't faster because they train barefoot, we're slower because our technique has been destroyed by shoes.
Well obviously what ever Hall is doing is working so your input is pretty useless, no offence.