"Self-Esteem is a Demonic Idea" - Hope for A Doomed Nation
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- Опубликовано: 21 июн 2015
- This is a clip from Pastor John MacArthur's sermon Hope for a Doomed Nation as he addresses one of the issues that is contributing to the current state of our country. In this clip he says something that most would debate, but is a solid Biblical truth.
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God changed my whole life when I realized it's not all about me. I realized I'm a wretched man and I'm spiritually hopeless without Jesus. Pride was killing my life. Glory be to the Lamb of God.
Then you are an idiot. The universe is indifferent to your lack of intelligence.
@@mindlayr Romans 1:28
@@Mikael5732 the universe is still indifferent to your stupidity in believing something we can prove doesn't exist.
@@mindlayr can you prove Gods non existence
@@mindlayr also space matter and time had a beginning out fo nothing,so something omnipotent,something that isnt comprised of space matter and time must have had to create space matter and time ie the universe therefore proving the existence of God
Being humble doesn't mean you let people abuse or mistreat you. Everything in balance.
"True humility is not about thinking about you less, but thinking about yourself less". - Rick Warren.
Being humble means you disregard being abused or mistreated. That's the balance.
This is where I struggle. Humility requires you to be vulnerable in a cruel and abusive world. When you feel vulnerable....you feel defenseless.
@@notyobidness6218 We all struggle. Be of good cheer. You are not defenseless.
@@dannyan7795 that’s a C.S. Lewis quote, Sir!
AMEN! God's view of us is totally not our view of ourselves from any perspective. We need to see ourselves from God's point of view---A genuine need for total humility!
How do I reconcile this as someone who already has very low “self esteem”... are we as Christians meant to feel like the scum of the earth? Must we hate ourselves for God to love us?
Same what happened to me years ago. But I learned that what makes us having low self esteem oftenly is because of the world standards, by being not pretty, rich, failure, etc. So trusting God's love, what He has done for us, and who HE is, and at the same time understanding that we are sinners, makes me seeing what is worthy is just Him and things that glorify Him. That way, our confidence coming from God alone and what God did for us, not from us.
I'm there with you. I grew up hearing so many messages like this that are tailored to people who already have a high opinion of themselves. It's great for humbling people who need it but it just beats down on people who already have a low view of their worth bc of "righteousness".
We are called to love God with all our heart and to love our neighbor AS OURSELVES. We cannot love our neighbor properly without loving ourselves as well and believing that we are capable and good. God himself delights in us and says that we are good. He is our source of strength but we are still called to do good works (within human limits ofc) bc that's what He made us to do. Clearly, God knows our worth and I think learning that self-worth does not equal arrogance is incredibly important for people in general.
@@soniab3253we are not worth because our SIN but we are LOVED because of GOD. For me this is enough to show how precious we are in God's eye, and therefore we should wholeheartly live to glorify Him ✨✝️
How does one get out of bed in the morning if they beleive they are worthless?
Our worth is not in ourselves. Our worth is in Christ, and that makes us get out of bed. And even live joyfully.
@@kristianjensen6333 Look up the definition of self esteem, you totally missed the point. Nobody is denying being confident in God and finding our indentity in him. Our self esteem, as a Christian should based on things like we're fearfully and wonderfully made, that God died for us, loves us, and works through us and gave us gifts to help others. That is called having a good self esteem, but not from the persepctive of we did it, but that God has done it. Self esteem is not wrong, its wrong when you think your self worth comes from something else other than God!
Apart from God we are worthless. Spiritually dead in our sins.
I don't think it's correct to call self-esteem a satanic idea. Having self esteem is incredibly important for our mental and emotional health, however we must be careful with the SOURCE of our self esteem and confidence. Is it coming from pride and recognition of our own accomplishments and abilities or is it coming from our identity in God and our pleasure in His love and grace?
If our self worth comes from God then is it really “self” worth? If it comes from God that means you’re being “selfless”
Let’s call it God esteem :)
"Indeed, you are still not ready. You are still worldly" (1Corinthians 3:2,3)
Self esteem is so insidious that the church has accepted the ideology and even defends it, as you are doing. I've done the same in the past, because I lacked an understanding of the difference between self esteem, and identity.
Dig a little deeper and you will see that the Bible actually teaches *against* self esteem. 😁
Our accomplishments like good marks are important but ALL comes from God..
This man does not have a clue what he is saying. You think you are the only one who understands God and knows what God is thinking...
God loves us and He wants us to be a light that shines brightly in the world, so that men would see our good works and praise our Father who is in heaven.
I’m not trying to speak for Pastor MacArthur, but perhaps that light that you mention that we are to shine forth is the light of humility and self denial.
Great. I listened to it twice. !!
Thanks.
What about all the young people out there with no self worth because of sin and broken homes among other things. They need to know that Jesus loves and values them, and that leads to proper self valuation. Unfortunately this message is extremely slanted - it really just addresses prideful self esteem and is pretty void of any compassion to those struggling with self worth.
Self love
You just hit the nail on the head!
I was thinking the exact same thing🥺
All people are inherently sinful and evil.
Such people STILL need to hear how much they need Jesus as a Savior, regardless of their circumstances.
@@quintus1164 it’s all about the delivery. Jesus delivered the message in love. The message is both that we are lost sinners and Jesus loves us and wants to restore us to Himself.
@@chriscagle4226 very true, but the Gospel is no cure for low self-esteem. If a person is a born again believer, they will bear the fruit of Joy and find their worth in Him in a natural way.
Outside of Him we are poor in spirit and worthless sinners. And I agree the message should be given in love. But for born again believers who continually hammer on self-love and self-esteem need to realize that the Gospel is not for building up yourself.
I agree we need to comfort the weak, but not make them prideful and self-conscious.
😅ha ha ha..."We are NOT as important as we think we are". This is VERY true. What a great preacher!!
Q1. If a man admits to pride does that make him humble?
Q2. If a man claims to be humble does that make him proud?
Paradoxical conclusion: It takes an arrogant man to preach against self-esteem.
I am not sure you drew the proper conclusion. If a man is confident in God and His Word, then his preaching against self-esteem is not a reflection of a profound confidence in himself (arrogance), but rather confidence in God and His Word. We should speak against any sin, not because of any self-obtained enlightenment, but rather because we speak on behalf of one (God) who is worthy of our highest confidence.
Yep. It takes quite a bit of self esteem to say “I confidently believe X, and I’m going to stand on stage and preach it to you”. Certainly far more self esteem than I have as someone who has struggled with self-hatred for years.
At the very least, John MacArthur is too shallow of a thinker to understand this, or also possible, he doesn’t really care about the people whose lives are ruined due to trusting in his preaching.
So true - wish I had learned this years ago
Amen! Thank you John.
God's love for us is infinitely more important than gaining men's love or even our own. In God's grace, those that repent and love the Lord our God will outlast this earth.Honestly I have been struggling with this. In today's world it is INCREDIBLY difficult to live/work/dwell around others with so much pride we feel like outsiders, cast away, weak and worthless because humility means not jumping at every chance to prove yourself as a valuable source. It can hurt but we are not of this world, and I have to remember that my value doesn't lie here in the valley of the shadow of death. My value comes from what Jesus Christ did for us on the cross.
Someone asked Did Jesus have self-esteem? to which I would say yes, He knew who He was. Nothing more nothing less.
Pride, when you strip it to its bare bones, actually comes from a place of insecurity. You aren’t truly secure in yourself so you puff yourself up and inflate your own ego to appear to be someone you are not.
It’s important that the Christian be humble yes but that comes from knowing WHOS You are.
Meekness can often be described as “strength under control” having a sword but laying it down for the sake of Jesus.
Meekness is NOT weakness it’s actually great strength!
Jesus was not insecure because He knew Who He Was.
You don’t have to be insecure when you know who you are in Christ, even with the knowledge of Who we are in Christ we lay it down and humble ourselves.
That is true humility.
This is so true and I feel the sin in me when I hear this for which I am very sorry for
“You are far less important than what you think you are and so am I ?” I’m not gonna lie that is the most degrading thing anyone can ever say. At that points like why are you even here living this life then to talk about it ! I promote self love because I think that i am important to me God and so many others because it give me the confidence as man to move forward and to be humble and take pride with this life of mine. Shame you sir. I hope one day you learn to love yourself too so you can be more kinder to others
@TRISTON BORING I would like to hear your explanation
I would say that we were slaves to sin and now are free. Now we are to use our gifts, given to us by the Holy Spirit, to be useful. So we still have work to do for the body of Christ. All different parts in one body.
There is nothing wrong with being confident in yourself. The problem is when we become overly-confident in ourselves that we develop pride in thinking though we're God, better than anyone else, or that we know what's best for our life. True confidence is not being prideful...it's seeing yourself as God sees you. It's many Christians living in false-humility, being robbed of joy because they see themselves as "I'm just a wretched man. I'm just a begger to Christ. I'm a sinner saved by grace". Either you're a sinner or you're a child of God. Yes, you will sin but a Child of God/Believer/Disciple is not characterized by God. If God is King and Father and HE SAID we're made His image and like and that we are a royal priesthood and peculiar treasure, does it then make sense to walk around like you're a nobody?
We are to not think more highly of ourselves than we are, but that doesn't mean I can't think more highly of myself. Furthermore, I can think highly of myself AND highly of my brothers/sisters in Christ. That's called humility.
Your very first sentence is a total lie!!
yaboy20071, unfortunately a lot of what you've written runs counter to scripture. James1:16-17 says : "Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren. EVERY GOOD ENDOWMENT AND EVERY PERFECT GIFT IS FROM ABOVE, COMING DOWN FROM the FATHER of LIGHTS..." All of our talents originated from God himself, therefore we're acting in pride and self-deceit when we take credit for what God has given us. In John 15:5 Jesus bluntly said "FOR APART FROM ME YOU CAN DO NOTHING." In Philippians 3:3 Paul the apostle said he "put NO CONFIDENCE IN THE FLESH." In the prior chapter Paul charges us to "Do NOTHING FROM SELFISHNESS or CONCEIT, but IN HUMILITY COUNT OTHERS BETTER THAN YOURSELF." Philippians 2:3-11 is a process of encouraging us to follow Jesus's example of humility which culminated with his death on the cross after an illegal trial God many acts torture. But because Jesus humbled himself and glorified his Father, God raised him from the dead and Jesus will be coming soon in power and great glory to save those who are eagerly waiting for him!! This is In keeping with Proverbs 18:12: "Before destruction a man's heart is haughty, but HUMILITY GOES BEFORE HONOR." In Isaiah 43:6-7 God states his purpose creating us: "...bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the earth, every one who is called by my name, WHOM I CREATED FOR MY GLORY, whom I formed and made." We are made to glorify God not worship ourselves, which is idolatry!! Whenever God wants to get something through our thick heads he repeats it. So how important is our humility to God? THREE TIMES it is written: "GOD OPPOSES THE PROUD but HE GIVES GRACE/FAVOR TO THE LOWLY/HUMBLE" [PROVERBS 3:34, JAMES 4:6, and 1PETER 5:5]. Our self-confidence alienates us from God while being humble draws us nearer to him. In Numbers 12:3 it says, "Now the man Moses was very meek (i.e. HUMBLE), MORE MEEK THAN ALL THE MEN THAT WERE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH." And there are many such examples throughout God's word, with Jesus's humility being at the top of the list. If we humble ourselves now we will reign with him in eternal glory later!! God bless you!!
yaboy20071 we are not made in God's image, we are far from it. Humans are not perfect and are no where near God's status. Having confidence is being prideful, we must be humble before God. He will show us humility if we get out of line. For example, when others tear you down is a great way to show humility. We don't fight back or trash talk, we just take it and humble ourselves.
Tamago no Atama God’s Word says mankind is created in God’s image
Ironically, it takes confidence to speak in front of large groups like this pastor is doing.
Healthy self esteem about doing our goals is important. But it should align with God
Amen
Self-esteem is not bad being self centered and prideful is, there is a difference.
What if Jesus said "you know what? i'm not gonna die for you on the cross, because i respect myself enough to not let these guys put myself on a cross"
Love is sacrifice for others. We are rotten sinners, therefore everything that comes from ourselves including self love is rotten. Our fuel is the love of God.
Jesus also said not to cast pearls to swine, and what is precious to dogs.
Multiple times it says not to associate with fools, those easily angered, and those who would corrupt with their company.
In mark, Jesus says to have some salt about yourselves.
And to love others as yourself.
That means, if they deserve to feel loved, then I do too.
Jesus didn't advocate for us being EVERYONE'S doormat. That's a new common mistake of the newer American church.@@beautifulcreation3910
@@beautifulcreation3910you still don't get it
@@beautifulcreation3910exactly, luisotero didn't support prideful behaviour. And self-esteem doesn't always refers to pride, literally it means to understand our value, and we can do it in a Godly way
@@beautifulcreation3910even you named your channel "beautiful creation" which mean that you also understand your value in God as His beautiful creation, and that is good
Confidence in self, NO. Confidence in Christ, YES. Christians need to understand the total depravity of humankind. Yes we are created in God's image. But we have become WORTHLESS, all because of SIN. God saved us not because we are "precious" and "worthy", but because it is His very nature to love us, even in our being sinful and unlovable. Psychology books tell us about self esteem, and it is shaping the world today. As Christians, our sense of being good (Self-esteem) should be replaced with the sense of of who we are in Christ (Christ-centeredness). A true Christian humbles himself, never think of or aspire for self-esteem, self-worth, and self-glorification. Pastor JM is referring to the world view of self called "self-esteem", and he's right about it.
Ram have you ever thought about what the image of God actually consists of? I think if we could take time to consider what the imago de that we have been given as human beings and specifically for us who are in Christ we can personally own this image that has been redeemed for us by Jesus. From my 25 years of life so far here's what I think the image of God that we have been branded with is, these are some pieces of the image of God, our mind (our thoughts), our will (the will to live and survive and make choices), our emotions (our feelings), our human body (the limitations we have been created with being human beings), our self esteem (which is our sense or worth and value ie. feeling like we matter) our souls (the part of us that is eternal and will live beyond our physical death) My thoughts are is we chose to run away from this image that God (these image pieces listed above) made us with which makes up the pieces of our "humanity" we will only find more death, more sinful struggles and bring more things that create death in other human beings like ourselves. So if someone thinks of themselves not as human they will treat others like they are less than human. If we deny what makes us human we will deny the same things that make others human as well. I hope this stirs up constructive conversation and challenges us to think about the way we see ourselves and the way God see's us.
If we're so worthless, why would God create us in the first place? Humility is good, but I think that's going a bit too far.
God doesn’t see us as sinners and appalled with us. He sees past our sins because of the blood of Christ. We should see ourselves how He sees us but not this false view brother John is preaching. For the Word says we are blameless before Him now that we are in Him, above reproach, righteous, holy, divine. That sure makes me joyful for the shed blood of Christ on my behalf. We WERE sinners, now we are saints ❤
THANKS JOHN
We are bad sinners, but self esteem isn’t demonic. Self esteem is confidence, and sometimes people have more self esteem than they need, and a high high high confidence which makes them arrogant. I don’t believe self esteem is demonic, because we have to love ourselves, because we were made by God, and we are important to him. Maybe not to other people but we are to him. Loving yourself is showing God how much you are thankful. But... self love should never be self glory, but self love should be humble. I love watching John MacArthur, but this just seemed odd hearing it from him. As it is said, love your neighbor as yourself. If you don’t love yourself, do you really truly love your neighbor? Love life, because God has given it to us because he is so perfect. We need self esteem, and self love, but it matters how much we have. If we have too much... then it can get very demonic. God bless!
Nowhere in the bible says we are to love ourselves. It actually says to consider others more highly than ourselves. Self esteem is of the world, not of God. Our fuel is the love of Christ, not the love of ourselves.
@@beautifulcreation3910, you are right, the bible never specifically says to love ourselves, but by telling us to love our neighbors as ourself, the bible does touch a little on the subject matter.. not much but some. Self love is a dangerous thing though, if we love ourselves to much, or love ourselves and act cocky about how we are made and about our abilities, then that is not of God. But self esteem is confidence, and you can use that confidence for yourself or for christ. Jesus would have had to had confidence to do what he did, but not nescecarily in himself. I believe that we should be cinfident and feel tabt we can be called to do what we need to, using confidence from christ. Does that make sense?
@@jonathans.219 I think we both agree we gotta have confidence aka trust in Christ. He will love us back and that will give us the confidence to overcome. I don't believe we are supposed to love ourselves through our own strength because the bible says that even our good deeds are filthy rags in the eyes of God, so that makes me think even our own self love is like that.
So in my view : We love and trust God > God gives us love and confidence in him > self esteem > therefore we love others as God loves us
@@beautifulcreation3910 that is a great way to put it.
Healthy confidence is important
Our walk with christ requires constant self examination to make sure we never forget who tue most high is. If I say I'm never prideful, I'm only devising myself.
Deceiving*
AMEN.
The balance is we are humans with many great things ( doctors treating the sick, teachers that teach us about life and god, healthy food that is made possible by our efforts) and we are also fucked up in many ways ( treating others badly, not helping your neighbour, just thinking about yourself and being selfish).
We are a mix is of both. The sooner we except this, the sooner peace settle in our hearts.
Excuse me? Did you just use the F word?
@@user-fj2qg9vw2f I didn't
@@vision3691 read it again
@@vision3691 and now you are lying about it
@Mark Celio alright smart-ass, so what? I said the fuck word and I don't care.
I'm just joking. How is life man?
"However, in saying that the root of mental health is not self-esteem, but rather the enjoyment of God as God and his free grace as grace, *I did not say that there is no truth in the concept of human value* (though I choke on the phrase self-worth since the word self in front of the word worth seems to really push the issue beyond where the Bible takes it). *Jesus said you are of more value than the birds* (Matthew 6:26)." --John Piper
The Holy Spirit truly speaks through this man. Thank you John for telling ALL of us how it is, and how it should be. Amen
This is so true
Pride and arrogance aren't the same thing as self-esteem. People with no self-esteem let people take and take. The Bible never preaches on having no self-esteem- it preaches on meekness. The title is very misleading to the point that I think you are trying to get across.
There is nothing wrong about self esteem, Mr. MacArthur. Self esteem is necessary for humans to have a healthy existence and enables us to navigate successfully in the world. The ego which is part of our conscious personality helps us in many things, i.e. decision making. Inflated ego? Yes. That is a negative quality. Pride is not a sin. Arrogance? Yes, that is a negative characteristic. Are you not proud of your children when they graduate from college? Are you not proud of your wife when she entertains your friends with a delicious meal? Maybe it would help you a bit if you read 2 Corinthians 7:4. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater!
Did Jesus have good self-esteem? I think so.
“Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.”
Philippians 2:5-8 ESV
Jesus took the nature of a servant in humility. Even though He is God. Depends what you mean by self esteem I guess. He knew who He was yes. God would exalt Him. As shown in the following verses:
“Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
Philippians 2:9-11 ESV
However He is the only one who could ever lay hold to such claims. Even if He did. Esteem Himself He’s the only one who can. Because He’s the only one whose works are perfect in all of His ways, who has all authority, who is worthy of all glory honor and power.
While we are called to imitate Jesus we are not like Him in His worthiness. He is a category all on His own in holiness. He is God. We can’t ascend to that place in our minds or hearts, or by any manner. That would be sin. The same sin of satan. Pride.
What about John 3:16? I'm so confused. And what do you suggest?
+Henry Melonde --What are you confused about? That MacArthur said that God sees us as utterly sinful? No, not entirely. We ARE utterly sinful people, which is why we need a Savior, and that Savior is Jesus Christ. Though we are sinners, God sees we who are saved believers as righteous. We KNOW we are sinners, which is why we came to Christ to be washed clean of our sin, amen? I know I am the worst among sinners, but God DOES so love the world that He wishes for NONE to perish, and for all to come to repentance. He gave His only begotten Son to save us, but sadly, too many reject Jesus in this world. Stay close to Him, time is so short.
Please John MacArthur, send me some money. You've got more than I have. Do you have an ounce of humility?
PRIDE and SELF ESTEEM are two very different things
Self means just that, "self".
Any phrase with the word self attached to it, except for self denial, is equivalent to pride
Good points about pride.
someone explains please...
i have a question? 2 Corin. 5:17.
How a new creation is still sinner?
Demons makes you to Think Evil, but GOD Makes You to Think Good.Think about GOD most of the time Everyday and you shall Think Good Most of the Time Everyday.
But we should not abuse ourselves either I've been there before too.
This is an excellent word!
Amen
The problem is that most people still believe they are their ego and their thought processes.
John MacArthur is correct yet there’s another side to this:
“I will give thanks and praise to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Wonderful are Your works, And my soul knows it very well.”
Psalms 139:14 AMP
Christ found mankind worthy of salvation. We can’t take any credit for any of this.
God found us unworthy of salvation and gave us the gift of salvation so that the riches of His mercy could be put on display
Ephesians 2:4-10
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
@@darrenbrown5899 Absolutely!! Our salvation won by Jesus was a manifestation of His magnificent love, not our worthiness.
Sorry no. We’re not worthy of salvation. The scales find God would be justified in damming every single man woman and child to hell to burn in agony pain suffering and tears forever. Forever. No end. Begging and pleading for mercy but why should there be any even for the littlest child? Even the smallest is a wretched vile filthy monstrous sinful child of the devil. By Justice God ought to condemn us right now as I type this. It would be good. We deserve it. Jesus is what we do not deserve. What we will never be worthy of. It is only when clothed in HIS righteousness that we could ever be saved, that we could ever be deemed “worthy” to God. By being clothed in Christ. All of us hidden and(or?) thrown away under Him. It is only because of His mercy that such statements can be turned about for those who are saved.
Exactly
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Century of the Self by Adam Curtis.
If you exist in Christ you don't need selfesteem, you have CHristesteem
Nice. 🔥😎
Also, we aren’t good. We are all evil and sinners, but we should love Jesus because he loves us, and we shall show god how much we love him by honoring our bodies, and our people for him.
This man speaks so eloquently . Great talk.
i am special! i am great! i am special because I AM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I started obsessing over self esteem and and it drove me nearly insane to where I started cursing out loud in church. So yes I agree It is a demonic idea and I don't think God wants us to be dishonest about ourselves it's a sin to lie to yourself or anyone for that matter. We should still love ourselves don't get me wrong but we should never be blasphemous and try to put ourselves before God.
Having an understanding of good self-esteem and self-love is needed, especially when facing mental illnesses like depression and anxiety.
Pride is not self-esteem. Pride is not true self-love.
I learned that i dont need to love myself if God/Jesus loves me, if i love others he loves me and heals me, that way the big "ME" is replaced with the big "THEE".. He cured all my mental illnesses when i forgot about myself and started living for him.. All psychology is hazardous material that stems from occultism
He's selfish and has very high self-esteem
Headline should be Pride and or Ego is a demonic idea. I'm not that genius, but pride and ego are totally different from self love and or self esteem.
Jesus Christ declared to his disciples saying "after you have done all that God has commanded you this is what you should say in your heart;
"we are worthless empty vein unprofitable servants who have merely done what was our duty to do'"... Jesus Christ... Luke chapter 17 nkjv
See, the preacher is demonstrating self confidence otherwise he would be a poor speaker. What is he really warning about ?
His confidence is in God
Self esteem = self respect , confident in one's self worth. If the Lord Jesus laid down his own Life for ours then I'll confidently state that He must rank us pretty highly. Self esteem is a must product. Pride in one's work. High self esteem builds confidence in a world of ever increasing chaos. Good manners , personal hygiene , Honesty , respect , appreciation , thankful heart all form strong self esteem. Without self esteem we are but empty shells. Satan advocates low self esteem.
Not entirely true!
Self esteem, like so many things, is a two edged sword. There are two sides to it. What John MacArthur is talking about is the negative, prideful self esteem that desires to promote self. Those with a humble self respect don't really think about themselves very much. All that you said describing self esteem is a beautiful picture of such a humble person who does not think about themself too highly. But, that being said, most of the self esteem talk in our culture is of the negative kind. The more self esteem talk increases, the more the arrogance of the culture increases and the less people in general hold the biblical perspective of personal sinfulness. Most people tend to think too highly about themselves. MacArthur's message is the antidote to the ever increasing love of self over the love of God. May that message be preached more and more!
Such an important message!!!
How would you feel if your child had said, “I’m horrible, wretched, worthless”? That would disturb you as a parent; your natural instinct would be to assure the child of his/her value and goodness with an acknowledgment of room for improvement. If a human parent is capable of that compassion and love, how would our heavenly Father not be? This type of black-and-white, unproductively judgmental approach to Christianity is unattractive, cold, and alienating. Truth is far from warm and fuzzy all the time, but we’re not worthless doormats that deserve to be cast away. It seems like a sense of false humility to pacifiy an an abusive deity. It just does not ring true.
I agree with you. Unfortunately, I think so many congregations are used to this kind of message that is tailored to people who are already arrogant, not people with a healthy or low sense of self-worth. As a result, pastors who do preach about self-esteem or self-worth are viewed as "appeasing the world" or "promoting sin". I've noticed a lot of emphasis on punishment and behavior modification in many western churches, not as much just experiencing life/different perspectives and wrestling with God in ways that actually build faith.
@@mr.sandman7339 right. Jesus would not approve of many of these pastors. In fact, those types of Christians are pretty much the same as in any other greedy, manipulative, control freaks besides the fact that they call themselves Christian.
You can find people anywhere in the world that talk down on others while committing sin in secret. People that shame others but not themselves. People that take money from the public coffer and rationalize that they “did a good job and deserve this treat”. People that try to control their sons and daughters with whatever religious text they are raised with.
Ironically, many western priests have become the people that Jesus warned us about. And if you dare confront them, they will try to tell you the problem is you, not them, while they rob you as your back turns.
The New Testament states we are given gifts by the Holy Spirit to be useful. If someone says those things to you, they are wrong.
I would remind my child that they are made in the image of God and that they are fearfully and wonderfully made. I would also remind them that we are all fallen, imperfect and sinful and in desperate need of a Savior. That God so loved us that He sent His Son, Jesus Christ to be our Savior!
I would encourage my child that even believing they are wretched and horrible smacks of self focus. Jesus said “none are good” so not being good is not special. But we are made righteous by putting on Christ, dying to our own selves and following Jesus.. so my child and myself and everyone else is in the same need of a Savior. Understand that we ARE fallen, we need a Savior. We HAVE a Savior. We need to repent and believe in the power of His blood and think less about ourselves.
@@MJ-29 Well said, from a true humble Christian who knows the truth of the Bible 🙏🏼 God Bless.
Negative. You must respect or care for yourself FIRST. Have a prayerful and blessed week.
Has there ever been a society as self-centered as this? Well yes, and historically often quite worse. And while I agree with what I think he's trying to say, I don't think he's defining self-esteem correctly.
Look for the entire sermon.
No one does good.
Be careful what you do with this teaching. You DO need self confidence otherwise you wont even get out of bed in the morning. There are balances to be maintained and one who hates himself because of continual accusation and legalism without any experience of success in his spiritual life, will suffer needlessly. Again, think carefully here.
Exactly
I don't think you need any confidence in yourself, all confidence should come from Christ. His power is made perfect in weakness, when I recognize that I am nothing and can accomplish nothing by my own power I become able to recognize that only through God is there any hope. Its why the Gospel always starts with man's sinfulness.
Such "wisdom" does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic"(James 3:15)
"Indeed, you are still not ready, you are still worldly" (1Corinthians 3:2,3)
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If this is a legit title for this sujbect for self esteem by this pastor than the ONLY question I have for this and anyone who would think this unfortunate way is, Did you know that you can USE God to RUN away from God?
John Williams I don't understand your premise
@@josephokonofua4289 no one does
Self importance, and self esteem ( love, are NOT the same thing. Self importance leaves G-d out. But in choosing the love of G-d in his commandments, the heart just automatically begins to love , the sinner, the afflicted , the unlovable, ( myself )
It is by the power of G-d, I am made whole.
You don't get it. Self is not the answer. Self is the problem.
@chadashkraniak4701 you are wrong, Jesus said in Luke 14:26 to hate even your own life, or you cannot be my deciple.
Why are you afraid to write GOD?
@@user-fj2qg9vw2f after some study , and talking with friends, I really believe the word God has been used more as a reference to a diety that is not Holy.
But it's also used to refer to Lucifer, as on our dollar bill. But Yahweh, is Holy, and it is our job as his holy people to to memorialize and set his name apart.
Throughout the law, G-d commanded us not to worship him in the way the nations worship their mighty ones. It's repeated so often, that it can't be considered unimportant. Even the Sabbath day, was a covenantal sign for all time. I am aware that some Jews write out G-d this way , too. But they believe they should not even say the name at all . But that is not a biblical prohibition. They also say they should not let the heathen know it, or else they would defile it. But that would nullify the great commission if we hid his identity from those we want to evangelize.
Lucifer is the great imposter. But he is lawless. That's the Pope had to remove the Sabbath, and place people in Pagan temples, to cause them to forget who they really are. So they created a bastardization of the faith, using a name like zues, for Messiah, and forgot that our Father is King. Therefore, no one can change the law, it is established by the NT , never abolished. Come out of Babylon, my people. That really includes any form of mixed worship. Be Holy as he is Holy. If our garments are not washed, we will not enter his kingdom.
Removing pride is a life long humbling process, that teaches us to love one another in a real way, instead of superficially. The cross is the great symbol of his love for us, that sets us free, to lay our lives down in response : )
@@user-fj2qg9vw2f yes, that is what I am saying.
I have a friend, she is a young lady. She went through a suicide attempt, and has been stuck in a prolonged adolescence. Any criticism given to her is seen as a complete devastation. Any inkling of facing her shortcomings is it this stage in her life, impossible, because she fears that it will send her into a spiral of what she calls self hatred and insecurity...
But I know the truth, she loves herself so much, that she is incensed by the idea that those around her do not love her the same... she wants to be loved and respected, but is unable to build and earn respect because she cannot see the things that she is doing wrong, and refuses to see why that people are reacting to her the way that they are.
She is callous, selfish, entitled and manipulative. However, she is young and attractive and is able to pull the wool over many peoples eyes, but inevitably hast to face the pain of abandonment whenever these people are drained of all care and compassion. It’s sad, I wish I could help her.
I often have this thing inside that self esteem is not a Godly thing, it shows ego and arrogance. In fact knowing the truth of God on Jesus it makes it more awesome and refreshing, it means we are loved even if we dont deserve it. It cultivates a humble fruit in ourselves. Just ask God to help you with this.
God please purify my heart to live according to your teachings and will and guide me to deny myself more and more in the named of Jesus our Lord! Amen!
True indeed! There's no commandment in the Bible to love ourselves. There are only two greatest commandments: Love God and love others. We already love ourselves to the extreme that's why we need to redirect that love to God and to others and not to ourselves.
No true but to love jesus you must realise he is in you
doomed, doomed, we are all DOOMED
i realized that christianity, and religion in general, really is about a lack of self-esteem. i am so glad to be living at a time when people are casting off this particular chain.
benny graham
Yes. It stops pride and all about self, and instead promotes love and care for others. Which this world needs.
Christianity is about one thing and one thing only Jesus and thats it anything outside that is man
It’s because they love there sin! Even On to death! Just going through the book of revelation! Plague, after plague, they didn’t repent ! Tribulation after tribulation, they didn’t repent, fire and brimstone earthquakes, they still didn’t repent! The probate mind! Was given to them. This is what Total Depravity! They wanted it, God gave it to them! They are without excuse, Thanks pastor MacArthur
And that s why christianity brings anxiety, depression and self hate to people
I agree
How come I believe that this is true yet not depressed? If you are a Christian you'd look at "esteem" for what it means not what you want it to mean. Here's what the word means: respect and admiration as well as reverence, among other things. Should we then not respect each other? No, but it should be God who esteems us and he may use people to do so. I don't hear the message and think "therefore I must hate myself and look down on myself" but do listen and think "I should look to not think highly of myself" -- see Romans 12 vs 16. So no, being Christian cannot possibly lead to depression. I sense that what many refer to as low esteem is simply "Humility" but humility is not a "nice" virtue, is it? The words of Christ bring life , joy, and peace not depression.
Have been looking for an honest video on the self fulfilling prophecy bull crap. Thank you!
In God’s eyes I have the righteousness of Christ. John MacArthur directly contradicts the truth of God.
Sorry but to God ,Jesus and the Holy Spirit i am beautiful important and wanted when they look at me they have only love towards me and guide me into all they want me to have and teach me how to walk in this fallen world and to see past others faillings and to pour Gods love towards them . Dont get into this whipping yourself in punishment for jesus death he did it out of love for you no matter who you are or what you have done . Turn to him and meet only love coming to you
John's message on the topic is a gentle massage compared to Paul Washer's. It all goes 'back to the Garden' where "eve' got a 'bright idea' and thought for herself in regard to things we are ignorant about, The Knowledge of God. The 'heart of Adam's Darkness' lives on..there is no Fear of the LORD before their eyes.Suffering produces perseverance, perseverance produces strength, strength produces character, and character, Hope. and in that is Strength, but 'we esteemed him not'.. The Cross is the 'death knell' to 'self' - Esteem...the world hates it, man hates it, and people hate God for it, for 'the flesh is enmity with God'. "He who loves his life will lose it...." It's referred to in John as 'The Pride of Life' Part of the problem is to confuse confidence with self-esteem , the latter being an invented word of man in psychological circles , it's an endless loop. When one knows themselves in His Light everything falls apart and they can then Turn to a True and Living Hope that is not dependent on 'me' and 'my performance'..it's Freeing .."It is no longer "I" who lives, but Christ!" When "I" am my life, I am my own 'god'...why did God identify himself as "I Am'..? Because ' i am' not. ;-) ruclips.net/video/hNAaaXi6DUI/видео.html
Such a dangerous message to be preaching. Wow. I cannot.
Great teaching.
Don't forget to add the President you and others admired for the last four years.
If you are going to mention Ali ,don't forget to mention Trump.
Oh look at me when I was in high school I was so humble, look at me crowd! Is everyone too stupid to see his hypocrisy in his high school football story? He was gloating and telling us how he is better because he never spiked the ball
He gave a simple example of how society has changed. If you don't like him, just say it.
MacArthur mixes truth with error constantly. He is a master demon, fork-tongued.
What he is saying is correct and what you said in your other comments are also correct.
John is saying that apart from God , we are AWFUL. That is correct. We are sinners; no reason to feel good about ourselves or be confident in self. JESUS alone gives us worth. We have confidence, not in ourselves (because we are terrible by ourselves) but in Jesus, who covers and makes us a pure new creation; beautiful in Gods eyes.
John is warning against pride that boasts in the flesh. Any boasting should be in christ alone-- paul said that himself.
Curtis, look whats coming out of your own mouth, the tounge and the words of the devil himself .
Takes one to know one
In God's eyes I was exceedingly sinful and yet He set His love upon me in
Romans 5:8
"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
When I put my faith in the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ all my sins have been forgiven.
Colossians 1:14
"In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:"
When God looks upon me He sees Jesus Christ who now lives in me and is my life.
Colossians 1:27
"To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles;"
which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:"
God was angry at me but through the blood of Christ has forgiven me completely and I praise Him for what He has done through Jesus Christ my Lord and Saviour.
"For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ."
"That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ."
That's tough love there, but y'all make it sound like I'm supposed to sit in my house and listen to paint dry I am a humble person Christ Jesus guides me daily.... I think there's a little bit kinder approach here.....
This is a sneaky way for the church to have control over an individual. Self esteem is demonic??? That’s a hot mess theory from organized religion
What's happened to this guy? God does not see our sin, we are made right through the blood of Jesus. MacArthur is not the one to speak about humility, he needs to excersise it 👀
Just remember, this is the hypocrite who fired and disgraced multiple people from his ministry for sins committed by their adult children, then went on to raise a son who scammed people out of tens of thousands of dollars, and guess what, he’s still in ministry.
Don’t give into self-hatred, it will not get you any closer to God. Yes, you are a sinner who needs God’s grace, and yes, you are no better than anyone else. That does not mean that you need to walk around with your head down and shoulders slumped, afraid to look people in the eyes because you feel like you have no value as a person, and allowing people to trample over you and the people you love because John MacArthur said feeling good about yourself is demonic. Trust me, I tried it. I lived that way for years and it never once did anything positive for my walk with God. It was only when I finally took the risk and let go of self-hatred, and accepted that I have value as a person, that I could finally accept the love of God and start to actually feel His presence in my life.
Jesus has strong words for those who harm “the least of these my brethren”, and people who have low-self esteem definitely fall into that category. It angers me to know how much pain, and separation from God sermons like this have caused.
they don't like self esteem, because people who think for themselves don't become sheep. I believe in God and I have my individual faith . Jesus said "love your brother like you'd love yourself" if u dont like yourself how can u do this? These religious leaders are mostly narcisists , they want you down on their feet doing everything they want.
Samara Schoch that’s a little bit of the message I got from this too. It’s hard to believe in something when everything seems so tainted.
The idea of being worthless, deprave and knowing God still wants us saves us loves us for our own sake and nothing else is a wonderful peaceful feeling. That's what he's getting at. That's the reality of the human condition. Pride, etc destroys that relationship with God and the fellowship with others. Self esteem sets arbitrary conditions for "why" someone is the best or should be looked at or cared about. But as soon as the those conditions are explained for why the person is loved then it's not really love. Being loved for our own sake as proofed by our depravity (no one loves wickedness or incompetence) is a fulfilling love. And God is enough. Not a career or a fancy house or the perfect family. But God. Self esteem psychology destroys that.
Clearly his mother never hugged him
Clearly, mummy told you, you were a good little girl and you believed her.
@@ShoeBooty860 maybe she was and mother was right.
Many pleasures are not sinful. This is very unbalanced teaching.
LOL! If i were to listen to a SECOND of this years ago i woulda been so screwed. Why is this so damn aggresive? I cant stand people who preach this way! I cant stand Yelling.
Evidently people telling the truth sounds like yelling to you.
John Macurthur preaches fear. And so he should. The multitudes are on their way to hell. They need to wake up to the truth of the Christ.
This is just wrong. People can suffer from self esteem . people like me which had many trauma and neglect affected my self esteem. There is nothing to do with satanic idea. God gave us many verses about confidence and self esteem. God is good and loves us. Seek him and He will give the self esteem confidence in Him. This video should be deleted from u tube
A horrible comparison between self-esteem and pride. A totally imbalanced message.
I understand what ur saying John but Muhammad Ali was the greatest boxer of all time :-) and the the statement about spiking the football I think ur going a little too deep there lol,plus if that is what u think then love that person anyway cause love covers a multitude of sins of the which h u already know my friend amen,let's not make a mountain out of a molehill:-)according to u it's wrong to be happy when u score a touchdown lol oh boy my friend that's a bit silly
"Self Esteem" is just another term for PRIDE. I always knew the concept of self esteem was a total lie from the Devil. Sadly many ignorant "Christians" unwilling to study their Bibles have bought into it. No excuses !!
Muhammad Ali showed people to fight for what is right. Your just a hater. Amen
Jamie Lee- he was a Muslim who refused to fight in war because it was against his "self righteous" religion where he was trying to earn "gods" favor . (Which he never did or could do by the way) and he taught others to be self righteous and led many people down a false road because his hypocrisy was disguised by the political and social influence that he had on culture . So we call it good and fighting for what is right. Oh yea he was a real hero . He has a negative effect on this world in Gods eyes . He was a great boxer for his time in my opinion he wouldnt last 3 rounds with Tyson in his prime though
He believed he could get to heaven by good works of his own. He even said that himself before he died. Nothing against him. he said it.
Maurice Harting exactly definitely not a good role model of God.
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