"I liked winning, but I hated racing!" - Ricky Carmichael and Chad Reed explain racing James Stewart
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- Опубликовано: 6 дек 2020
- Ricky Carmichael admits that racing wasn't fun to him, especially in the James Stewart era, when he was jumping crazy sections that made him uncomfortable. Chad Reed shared the same opinion and it was interesting to hear there take.
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We need Ricky chad and James all 3 on the show together, that would be a great show guaranteed!
The three Goats 🤘✊💨💨
I miss them 3 bumping bars was the best racing...good ole days
Hell ya!! I wanna see james knock all reedys teeth out!! Seriously, how many dirty take outs did Chad put on JS7??? That's what ended JS7!!!
@@rewadena4371 never forget the outdoor race that time Reed was talking trash so JS (who was leading) stops during the race just to let Reed pass him then comes back and passes him again for the lead..haha sit down kangaroo man!
@@slowridin4988 yea!!! Suck it reed!!!
There is something very comforting about them looking at a jump and saying " I don't want to do that". I say that a lot at the track.
I race harescrambles and I'll be looking at a big creek jump and say there's no way I'm going to jump that. Then the kids come through and jump it like it's nothing.
Glad I'm not alone lol
Hahahaha
I remember hearing stew in an interview a few years ago. "I was litterally willing to die to win." that's nuts to me.
The way he raced,he wasn't even joking.
Literally every FMX guy. Just to get a root.
i think thats what ruined his career. 2nd was no different than 20th to him. I think winning races was more important than winning championships
@@jmard24 Winning races may be no different than winning titles in the grand scheme of things. Damon Bradshaw never won a SX or MX title, but the way he rode and won still makes him a bankable figure. James won a Championship every class possible and he changed the sport doing it. Hard to ask for more than that. Guys like Dungey and RV were about titles, but they don't live in peoples hearts and minds like Bradshaw and Stewart. BTW, RC had the same mentality as James at one point, but people forget that.
@@paulf144 db=125ecsxc
Interesting to hear how those guys felt and where they were at when racing James. Never heard them be that open. Was refreshing.
@Warren Timpson Stewart at his peak in a full moto without injury won’t ever be matched raw speed wise. I really believe this
@@Troubledhooks Carmichael usually had Stewart covered in outdoors but James was insane in SX
There are so much clips of stewart doing crazy stuff quading this , or making dungey look like a c rider in the woops the man was insane at sx
@@fiftyin07 Carmichael was insane outdoors. There´s no way in hell Stewart would beat Ricky outdoors back then (in a full season), given their mentalities. Carmichael was just to strong. Physycally, mentally and technically.
Stewart was better indoors. One of the best indoor riders ever - if not the best. But at MX Ricky is the absolute GOAT. No "ifs" and /or "buts". The guy was a MACHINE.
@@RicardoSilva-qp4bb Watching them race it was obvious that in outdoors RC had superior corner speed. I'd say he also had superior fitness and just that nasty relentless pace, and mentality, that were hard to match.
In indoors Stewart felt at home, with those constant jumps, rhythm sections and such, his flexibility and creativity gave him an edge over everyone.
James, Ricky & Chad on a podcast would be LEGENDARY🙏🏽
Everyone’s got a plan until #7 starts uncorking sections 🤷🏻♂️
yes their plan was for him to crash his brains out and it happened more than not
Sadly, he crashed too much! When he was flawless, there was, and is still, nobody faster! Had he backed off just a tiny bit, he would have shattered the records, and won more SX titles than McGrath.
@@chrisedwards65 wrong, stew is the second most winningest ama rider of all time, 125 goat, second after MC "The King" in SX wins over RC, 98 wins MX/SX, younger national champion, younger sx winer and have all amateur records and the little detail that he is the man who changed the style of riding
@@pay2000 RC- 15 mx/sx titles Stew- 5 mx/sx titles & countless number of unfinished series due to crashes
@@pay2000 really? He only has 2 championships, there's 3 others with 2 but there's 4 with more including McGrath with 7. Just because he's black doesn't make him the best.
Ive never seen a faster more dominant rider in my life, James was incredible. Crazy to hear the goats speak about him lol.
NOBODY danced on a motorcycle the way JS7 did. Ever. Period. Barcia, villiipota, RC, Mgrath, NOBODY!!!!! He STILL is the most exciting to watch ride. His style is unmatched.
And they're admitting that, by saying "I'm not willing to do that". Imo. Kudos to them all, but James wanted to go faster, more than they did. And He DID.
@@davidpringle2227 if only stew came into racing when bikes were this good could you imagine
Jeffery herlings 🤫🤫
You should get James on the podcast
please
I'll third that. Hmm hmm hmm. Insert hand pounding noise.
Yeah I think every media person in the business wants an interview with James good luck!!
Yesssss
It will never happen
That was awesome....the brutal honesty is refreshing.
Ya i dig it
I can relate! I am willing to send it on the straights but in the turns, whoops and jumps I decided I was just take my last place...
Lmao 😂
You're not alone man!
I will adopt your tactics and hopefully I'll stop getting hurt. Thanks for the wise advice
@@jlowknight Sadly, I still get hurt
@@mathews0618 lol mate you got to slow down before the turns.
I was literally flagging the landing/corner of that quad in Phoenix. James hit it in a heat race and the crowd went wild. The way I recall it, Ricky followed him over it the next lap successfully. But, I don't remember if either of them did it in the main event. The ground liter would shake from them landing that. I was impressed for sure, but more so that he could manage to slow enough for the turn after. Pretty sure it was things like this that made the track designers start limiting the track designs in the near future to now in order to make things safer. Unfortunately, for me at least, that made the SX series boring. Every track became predictable and "safe."
The FIM fucking Stew over was the downfall imo
Interesting, because I was upset that Arlington was too sketchy a year or two ago when Webb and others got injured on a dragon's back. I was there and was thinking how dangerous it looked even before the night event.
@@codybaldwin7253 It wasn't the FIM, it was WADA. But yes- Bubba was FUCKED!!!!
@@djmerchant as an athlete that gets tested. If you are in a tested sport then you have to be aware at all times what's going in your body. Stewart needed to be on top of it. He's not the only athlete who failed to fill out their TUE and get punished for it. It's still new in mx/sx.
@@BlueNoseParaCanoe you don’t actually believe a years suspension was appropriate do you? The guy brought nearly 80% of the fans I would guess, definitely myself and 100% of my friend wether a fan or hater. For them to willingly cut their interest like that from the fans over a prescribed pill and a couple pieces of paper smells like suspicious shit
Where is this whole interview, Im addicted
Podcast app.
It's on his page somewhere. Just look it up
These are just clips from his podcast.
ruclips.net/video/6uYW0yS93bI/видео.html
@@brentyancich Thank you
Unfortunately, there is a difference between a hobby and a job. Doing something for a living can take away the fun. I think Carmichael and Villopoto are having more fun riding now that their professional racing careers are done.
Same thing can happen if you take hobby racing too serious.. I've done that. It started feeling like an obligation and a job.
also all out racing is just rough. Im sure ricky still likes being on a dirt bike but racing vs just riding is so different
Also RV career wasn’t just the job aspect but the family stress, very rare you hear champions hate their championships but RV was one of them
In these interviews it’s the most relaxed iv seen Ricky
Ricky was my idol growing up. Thanks for all those fun years of racing you gave us.
As someone who had a pretty decent amateur career and made some money locally as a pro riding, I can’t imagine what these guys went through week in and week out. The stress had to be unbelievable.
Especially with that beast stew he is a madman
So much fun seeing these two legends talking about the gnarly side of racing... the fears that nobody think they had...nice to know that SUPERHEROS also have fears!
Everyone likes to get paid but nobody loves the work. I feel you Ricky.
That’s not even remotely close to what he referenced. You don’t think Ricky put in work during his career?
It is tho. He was saying racing wasn’t fun, a job isn’t fun but we have to do it. And that’s what his career was
@@thormx47 I’ll meet you halfway ,yeah got a think of how hard and much effort he put into his career to get to that level there is no way that he didn’t just do that for money there is there’s no way and he’s referencing racing against one of if not the greatest riders ever, Stew! And a couple of the other supra supra top dudes.
Finally someone with credibility says it. The work sucks but the end result from the work is worth it and why we do it. As an artist and a musician I hate the process of making art and the practice required to play my instrument well but playing in front of a big crowd is fun! and people always say, "well your not a real artist because the process is supposed to be fun" NO! hanging a finished artwork in a gallery and going to the opening reception and selling your work is fun. Slaving for 50 hours and stressing over every brushstroke is painstaking and stressful and isn't fun. Doesn't make me any less of an artist
Thank you for saying this Ricky
maybe thats why I lost interest in playing music, I couldn't find a tangible return on all the effort to keep at it, when I was younger being in a band and playing shows and so on made it fun, once adult responsibilities took hold and the time to stay devoted was less and less and there was no band and there were no shows other more practical endeavors won out and all thats left is a room full of old amps and instruments, sad but I guess it wasn't meant to be but believe me, when it was fun man it was a lot of fun
praying for a js7 podcast someday
Same!
God I remember back in the day when that trio was always 1st 2nd and 3rd. Always the most intense racing when these guys were on the track together.
I like mashed potatoes, but I hate making them.
I literally jus told my buddy this how racing isn’t fun anymore because of how much we have to push ourselves instead of jus going to the track and having fun
One of the best & most revealing insider intel podcasts ever 🙌 makes us mortals feel like we can also achieve great things while we are racing full of fear.
Loved the honesty...
Anyone got a link to the actual phoenix race footage of this jump? Would love to see it as reference
I think this also shows how a champion has to push their boundaries, and do things that make them uncomfortable. This is how sports evolve. Champions pushing past their current level.
I’ve been on both sides of this. (Fast local pro speed) Many times I’ve been the only guy to jump something and there’s times I’ve been the one who just wasn’t willing to take the risk. The risk of doing something different for an advantage has worked and sometimes it did till it didn’t.
Nice video interview with chad Reed and Carl Michael, amazing
Would like to hear more details/conversations about the new generation of 'not using' the clutch. Do they replace clutch usage with better throttle control? Isn't Eli a heavy clutch user/abuser? I use lots of clutch, but that is only in Supercross 3, the video game.
Good question! I’m genuinely curious about this too :)
Yeah, I do more enduro stuff so when I'm on a MX track I clutch a lot. Also, cornering feet up is the new thing, I hear.
@@grimmriffer cornering with feet up seems like a good way to save your knees. It MTB riders can do it fast, don’t see why it would not work for motocross.
it was sarcasm
I heard JS7 say he rode that way because that is how he grew up racing. Big James told him they couldn't afford new clutches and to ride clutch less.
This is awesome. I’d live to watch the full video.
Have a dig through the channel mate it’s in there
Let me tell ya. Though you might not have enjoyed it, I sure enjoyed watching it and I still enjoy it regularly.
I’ll be 55 this year and I’m thinking about riding a 2 stroke again!
Ricky says he wouldn't do the gnarly stuff and finish 2nd, but it seemed like he was always winning though. Some of the outdoor footage of Ricky and James is incredible. Both guys going so wicked fast barely holding on and Rocky was just alittle quicker out of the corners.
yeah he isnt giving himself enough credit lol. i dont remember ricky being like how hes saying here.
These r incredible.. Appreciate ya..
Thanks mate
Stew was just sending it everywhere
And that’s why he crashed lots and didn’t last long. But we definitely won a few championships against the goat so huge achievement
Got alot of respect for them both after basically saying Stewart would Jump stuff that others wasn't going to do
This willingness vs. doubt was echoed by pros back in the 80s when "bigger is better" started driving good riders out of the sport.
That is the internal battle I've been dealing with for a long time. It feels good to not be the only one but it sucks that that's something you're just going to have to buck up and live with it.
I met Ricky Carmichael after a few races and he was so mean, he was my favorite racers and I was so bummed out how dismissive he was... this makes a lot of sense. He didn’t even like what he was doing. What a shame.
I watched a video of him practicing when he was young. Said he'd go through 5 gallons of gas every day just training. That's a couple of hours everyday training...doesn't sound as fun when that's your job at 15
True, but it beats working construction or doing some menial job that no one gives a shit about. His life could have been infinitely worse. Every time I met pastrana, he was all smiles and glad to be there. It’s a mind set.
Sometimes, different people just take things in different ways. Pastrana might’ve been a tad mean if you met him towards the end of his racing career, because he grew to hate that as well before he moved to freestyle. Or maybe he wouldn’t have been. Who knows. This is a crazy sport, it has some of the most prevalent frequencies of serious injuries and a constant risk of death, and the work and wear it puts through your body is just hard to fathom a lot of the time. If all of that being that, you don’t even like it? You’re not gonna be a happy camper. Especially back then. Those guys were being pressured into doing things modern guys today aren’t.
JS7 has also said basically the same thing. He didn't like it. Crazy amount of pressure to win.
@@jamesallen2909 Yeah, just 2 different personalities. You can still see it today. Pastrana is always smiling. RC not so much.
Awesome set of interviews Gypsy so fucking interesting. Keep em coming 😁😁😁😁
Thanks legend will do my best
This is gold. Pure gold!
Love the honesty guys. Thats what the kids need. Reality vs tv . Kudos
I think a lot of us can relate. When i was young I hated sports but I was good at them simply because I hated loosing more.
Really cool video. Icons of the sport
James really was something else. I never knew any rider that made the commentators scream that much
If Ricky did not want to do a particular jump it must have been really insane!
As great as he was though, the reason they didn’t do the same stuff JS did is because you could usually depend on him coming up short on it at some point. It’s hard to do the lines that Stewart would try and make them consistently for 20 laps. So a lot of the time, RC or Chad would just hang back, then Bubba would crash out, and they’d take the win.
Bubbas 50 Supercross wins would say different lol more than Ricky or Chad
Stew never had problems with crashing on that stuff. most of his crashes were him losing the front end. 05 he messed up a tabletop and broke his wrist. other times were missed shifts, going down in whoops and things like that
Were talking about a guy who crashed in Daytona was dead last and decided to jump a wall instead of scrubbing it just because he could
Sounds like you watched SX/MX in a different reality 😂
James sure crashed a bunch. I expected it every time he was racing
Where is the full podcast of this?
In the description
All I heard was respect. The GOAT and another great admitting they didn't see the track the same way Stewart did is a massive statement.
This interview is getting a lot of mileage. 👍
Did the full interview still available somewhere? I think I saw it when first posted but it's been a while and ice slept since then lol
ruclips.net/video/6uYWOyS93bl/видео.html
What a great conversation, Its funny to hear Ricky say that there were certain things he would just not do to win, OF COURSE! Rule #1 of racing: you have to be in a position to win on the last lap to win. I remember watching James and thinking wow this guy is awesome but he is running at 100% and there was no room for error, "Win it or Bin it". Ricky may have been running only at his 95% but he was going to be there for the last lap when James had crashed out of the race.
What Ricky Carmichael said was so true. No one likes working but they are happy when they recieved money, Some people hate working out but so happy to see their muscles getting bigger. Delayed gratification is the key even if you dont feel doing it just do it you might feel better at the end as long as you try its better.
The caption should read "The realities of racing against James Stewart".
Humanity is definitely refreshing. Reminds me of the first time I watched Metallicas' Some Kind Of Monster. I remember thinking "Wait! These guys ARE human??"
Two of the best here talking about limits. Anyone who's ever seen Chad or Ricky ride a lap ANYWHERE on a dirt bike, would never put the word, much less the idea of, 'limits', into that scenario.
The psychological game can be very tricky...
Sure was great watching these two guys race.
I’ve heard the same about Dannie magoo Chandler, he would do stuff nobody else would consider and win or crash out. He crashed a lot.
He would,he was all in.
It’s true! Yes racing is awesome! Hate the pressure and nervous! When I use to race Bmx I hated uncomfortable position and bigger jumps :/
Definitely the best years in racing it was just so exciting
It fast becomes a job. At the championship level, there is absolutely no joy in it if you're not winning.
It's hard to believe that when they're out there banging bars, passing and being passed back by the likes of Chad, Ricky or Bubba that it wasn't fun. But I can see their point, and I'm glad that both got out of it healthy.
Around 16 or 18 years ago, we had one of Reed's YZ426F. I think it was the 2001 (around there). Even had his autograph written on it. Sure sucked trying to start it tho.
Very interesting.
No clutch, no brakes, just all balls
Cool how they can vocalise their appreciation for each other now.
Wow, this was incredibly refreshing to hear and super interesting! I have to say though, that is why I like motocross just a little more. The track variation, unpredictability, and changes in elevation just makes a really interesting race over the course of several laps. Watching those dudes tear it up on the outdoors was straight up some of the craziest adrenaline even as a fan watching on TV ever!
Either way though, I feel like this needs to be heard more!
*****KX250***** Stewart 24-0 baby!!!!! Yeah!!!!!!
Ricky is so great because hes so willing to speak candidly.
My 2 favorite riders 👍🏻
I remember going to the Chiro and seeing chad in absolute pain. This was during his heyday where he was going at it with James. Tough way to make a living but I imagine also fun.
When your hobby becomes a job...
It changed your outlook. Its a job.
That's why they pay you.
I'm a former ski instructor, mogul competitor.
At some point work becomes work. Even if it's your dream job.
Wheres the whole video?
ruclips.net/video/JXTIRAuXY0s/видео.html
@@007Variable why?
@@kpsmith4241 thought I had the right link and I went through writing out the actual real link on paper cause I didn’t know how to find and copy the actual link from the whole video. Sorry dude, I tried but I should get a a for effort. Trust me I was trying to help get the whole video link up there messing around for a good 20 minutes for ya.
@@007Variable A+ for effort, thank you.
tha quad at vegas on hiz 125 waz filthy sik
I got to see stew and rc at their prime on 125s, 250s n 450s. The combos he'd pull on his #259 125 were insane. JS7's biggest enemy was himself; he'd go too fast for conditions and crash out.
ObamaReally Suucks Lol
It’s the way they talk in North Africa/ north Vegas/ north Long Beach. /North Lake Elsinore. Wiggers going to Wig
two great people
Reed had a chance of being the goat but RC was always in the way
Remember Ricky tripleing a down hill at Broome Tioga that noone else even try'd.. or that sky jump at Dilla in practice was just incredible to see!
@Julius Evola the RC jumps at unadilla are on utube it's the sky jump... That down hill at broome was the jump b4 the finish line turn I'd guess maybe 60'
I'm going to try n find that now that you mentioned it...was such a bummer when they cancelled broome it was called the best spectator track was before they moved fences back like today's races...you'd get dirt on top of your beer can....remember also the whoops section was parallel to the rd you walked after paying
no more than 15' from the bikes..so awesome
@Julius Evola I'm really disappointed in the amount of Broome Tioga vids I guess back then was all vhs
I hate racing in tournaments but I do what I do best to win and still prove who I am
Wow, I'm glad I never got good at moto. It truly grinds on the pros.
Cool interview. There's so many times when they did hit it though haha
cool to listen to the top riders of the past....RC the GOAT, clearly. I think one year I watched him beat JSTEW every single race. Hard fought each one, but JS get in front and then bobble and get out of control and leave the door open.....always his weakness, being a bit out of control. If RC wasnt there, JS would have won a lot more.....two of the best at the same time was great to watch.
I would say if reed didn’t take j.s out so many times he would have had at least one or two more championships
Listening to the full podcast now on Spotify.. 👍
You're the moto version of the joe rogan podcast for all us crusty/ bar 2 bar kids grown up
I know when I'm playing racing video games......if I have no chance of coming in first I reset the race rather than slog through the rest of the race in 2nd or 3rd or worse..... But those guys have no choice in the matter-they have to keep going.
Goat..my deepest respect.
Man I still miss BUBBA. He would attempt things that even guys as talented and committed as RC and CR didn't want none of !! That says a lot about the way he saw the track, and how he could realize things that were possible, where everyone else saw FEAR !! He did crash, but who wouldn't trying to be the fastest MAN on two wheels !! He had the most athleticism of anyone racing, that allowed him to have the bike control, and he was daring enough to pull it off most times. . He wanted it !! I don't see anyone bringing that today. Maybe never !! That is why I don't get amped about SX anymore. No one now can ride at his level....
RC & TP are the all time goats of motocross for me RCs 150 wins 79 in the 450 class with dungey in 2nd at 39 wins!?!?! I mean that record will never be touched for however long motocross exists and pastrana nothing needs to be said as to why he's a goat
Would love to hear James’ perspective on this subject
Same!
@@GYPSYTALES
Hi bro
When do think this will happen..because there is a shit load being talked about him,good and bad while he is not there to defend himself.
But I guess the o be you hate the most also gives the most clicks. Bet ironic me thinks. Or he just doesent trust you enough
Respect
New class, not using the clutch??? That's how it was from the mid seventies through eighties. How ever they changed gear, these guys certainly made it work and continually upped the game!
Legends!
I'm not totally sure of what Chard or RC meant when they refer to the "new generation" about not using the clutch, what are they talking about?
I got the impression they are being sarcastic
'Hard fun' gotta respect the honesty. But in all honesty that effort and dedication is what catapulted him right to the top.
Yes James was sensational.. but the average person will never understand the level of talent it takes just to be in the top 15. Sure, 99% of the 450 riders will never quad, but some of these triple setups are just as crazy. Triples that have short rutted runways and short landings that transition straight into a corner are scary af. And it's even scarier after your 10th lap when arm pump and fatigue start settling in. Everyone in the field hits the triples.. but that doesn't make it any less impressive to me. What these pro riders do is simply amazing and a lot of people will never understand what it really takes to get to that level.
to hear legends talk about stewart like that is crazy what if he actually rode safe sometimes more championships for sure
I was at ponca mx in 94 practicing for 250 intermediate. Kid on a kx80 blew by me and lapped me. It was Ricky Carmichael. Wasn't the bike lol
Watching the races wasn’t the same after he retired. Stewart needed him to bring out the best in him. Once R.C. Retired Bubba wasn’t the same. Obviously this is just my observation and opinion, but that os how I seen it. C.R. Was awesomely also.
Maybe I’m late to the party, were they serious about not using the clutch?
I even feel like this about amateur racing. I hate it. Then afterwards I loved it. Then I go back and hate it.
It's because racing was your job like most other people's 9-5 routine. Work is rarely "enjoyable" or should I say fun. Thank God you made a great career riding and not pushing a pencil behind some desk for 60 hours a week.
Its all about riding to your own personal level and not to let other riders push you into unsafe situation. trouble is we expect so much from the pro riders.
Lot's of rider's are pushing an doing stupid stuff for free just because pros are but don't realize they only test limits because a house payment is on the way
Are they saying that the newer generation of riders today are faster than they were in their prime? I don't really watch Supercross since these 2, McGrath and Stewart retired.
Man to get stew on your show would be insanely sick!!! Pay him!!