Only RDR2 is better than GTA 4, don't make a joke of your comment SIR. Simply I only see leg shot better in RDR1 and nothing else was better but RDR2 is better in everything from GTA IV.
I've been waiting for someone to do this comparison, Both Grand Theft Auto IV and Red Dead Redemption have the same physics engine (RAGE). Plus both games have 2-3 year gap, so they are probably the only Rockstar games to have amazing physics.
@@34_Brayan-Montanezit was supposed to have better Ragdolls but the ps 3/xbox 360 couldn't handle it well and can be easily unlocked with mods and the car physics was made arcadey because people complained about gta 4 driving being so hard
5:57 the ONE thing I DON’T LIKE about GTA IV physics is how NPCs always seem to throw themselves over barriers like this. It’s like they’re trying TOO hard to do it intentionally
I guess it's more like how in action movies, actors will react dramatically to being shot and will take advantage of their surroundings while doing so. Afterall, GTA is meant to be a parody/videogame depiction of both real life and action movies the team may have watched/observed as a source material.
This is a much more fair comparison than 4 vs rdr2. There is only a 2 year difference between rdr1 and gta 4 which is why I was waiting for a comparison. I asked swifty crimson for a comparison like this but being the useless person he is, He ignored it.
I’d say gta4 is kinda better ngl cause there’s more stuff to do and even though the physics are the same there slow asf in rdr1 and it’s unresponsive even when you fight and I’ve played both games but gta4 has better gun play and a overall funer experience but rdr1 was still a masterpiece
@@Bugmultiverse I will say it does have a better art style but NO WAY DID YOU SAY PHYSICS there slow asf in RDR and by that time they were already trying to make the physics worse wich happened in RDR-rdr2 and gta v. Gta4 was always funner given the fact that it had more stuff to do
alright guys, now that rdr1 is on pc. Should i buy that for 50 bucks (undead nightmare also included) or should i buy gta 4 for 20 bucks (lost and damned, ballard of gay tony also included)?
Eh, no. In Gta 4, ragdoll/physics are much smoother and fluid. You will notice this very clearly when you shoot NPCs. Additionally, NPCs will attempt to remain balanced in real time while in ragdoll/physics state. In Rdr1, ragdoll/physics are stiffer. It's not very fluid. And NPCs don't try to stay balanced in a ragdoll/physics state. But headshots are a lot of fun in this game.
@@Bugmultiverse Either you misunderstood my comment or you didn't read it completely. Gta 4 has real-time balancing physics. And, unlike Rdr1, it is very easy to trigger the Euphoria physics in Gta 4. When you touch an NPC with a car, when you walk to the NPC, or when you shot it with a gun, it immediately switches to real-time balacing physics/ragdoll state. In Rdr1, they "downgraded" all of this a little bit. In Rdr1, when you walk to the NPC, it doesn't immediately go into ragdoll/physics state. Or when we touch the NPC with the horse, it doesn't immediately go into ragdoll/physics state. If you touch/walk to NPCs for a little too long, they will just go into ragdoll/physics state. But NPCs won't try to stay balanced too much. They will fall to the ground as if they have just forgotten how to walk. The same goes for shooting NPCs with a gun. (They will die immediately from the chest area, arm and hand anyway) But even if they don't die, they will throw themselves to the ground. As you can see, the "immediately switching to smart ragdoll/physics state and staying in real-time balance" thing in Gta 4 has been removed in Rdr1. But of course, Rdr1's Euphoria physics are still good. Much better than Gta 5 and Rdr2's Euphoria.
@@MinecraftvsBurnoutBut that thing in GTA IV was not realistic. Everything In this game it's exaggerated, the game's NPCs don't have a human skeleton, they look extremely soft. Even when you bump into them, they don't react in a realistic way (either bodily speaking, or in a rational way). In real life, when a person is bumped, they are not taken as a role, without fighting back and Stare at the person who bumped you. In a shootout, you don't go soft when you get shot in the leg, in a sudden way. About an NPC getting shot in the chest and arms, and dying immediately, show me a video proving what you're saying. The chest is a very vital part during combat, it is no wonder that the bulletproof vest is on the chest as well. But anyway, the ragdoll in GTA IV is exaggerated, everything in this game is exaggerated!
@@Lo0pingGG Man, if NPCs in Gta 4 didn't have skeletons, they wouldn't be trying to stay balanced in real time. So they would immediately fall to the ground like jelly/liquid. In this game, the NPCs are in a ragdoll state while the NPCs will try to stay balanced as long as they can (like a real person would). And they will do it in real time. Of course, if there is a slope, obstacle, etc. where they step, they will either be more successful in balancing or they will fall. When you walk towards/gentle push the NPC, the NPC will try to stay balanced and start walking in the direction you pushed it. (Yes in this case, the NPC will act a bit weird/drunk) However, when you slowly push the NPCs with the car, they will try to protect themselves and their balance. Thanks to the real-time and smart ragdoll system (Euphoria). This ragdoll/physics always gives unpredictable results. If you shoot the NPC in the leg, you will see it stumble, bending slightly and holding its leg with its hands. (different each time) Sometimes they will also fall to the ground. Of course, if you shoot the NPC in both legs, it will fall to the ground. (That NPC shouldn't be able to get up after this, but that's the mechanics of the game completely, not the ragdoll) There is no exaggeration, except that sometimes NPCs appear to be too drunk when in a ragdoll state. (And of course bike accidents are exaggerated) This is the most complex and advanced ragdoll/physics yet. Even in new generation games the physics are not close to this. Coming back to the Rdr1 topic, a person named "Sly" makes Rdr1 compilations. But in his videos, he always shoots NPCs either in the head or in the chest. I can say okay with the part where NPCs die directly from the chest. There are vital organs such as the heart. As I said before, it is partly annoying when they die directly from the shoulder or arm. That is, they even die from hands (rarely). But if you want real and understandable proof, I recommend you play the game. The game itself will help you understand or see.
There's no sense to compare GTA V with RDR2 because GTA V was regress at many many points of physics and details. There are some things that GTA V did better than GTA IV, but in the end GTA IV game from 2008 or 2009 (not sure) have still one of the best physics in the history of video games. And the only game that beats it up is RDR2. I think GTA VI is going to be even better but so far GTA IV has mechanics that today's games still don't have.
Yh it’s very slow when you fall in rdr1 for some odd reason and fighting feels slow and unresponsive wich would have made it better than gta4 if they kept the physics and the good gameplay like in gta4
Physics is not why people play games. GTA 4 physics are overrated af. Helicopters don't create holes in seas and neither does crashing a bike send you to space
You're right, man. In Gta 4, ragdoll/physics are much smoother and fluid. You will notice this very clearly when you shoot NPCs. Additionally, NPCs will attempt to remain balanced in real time while in ragdoll/physics state. In Rdr1, ragdoll/physics are stiffer. It's not very fluid (compared to Gta 4). And NPCs don't try to stay balanced in a ragdoll/physics state. But headshots are a lot of fun in this game.
@@peepee2010 I wasn’t talking about the graphics mod, I was talking about the vanilla graphics. And no, they don’t look like shit. You literally must be 12 years old because when GTA IV first came out it was the best graphics anyone has ever seen in a game at that time and they still hold up pretty well even for todays standards. It’s obviously not as good GTA V or RDR2s graphics but it’s certainly better than RDR and most other games graphics
No I love GTA 4 BUT go play the PS3/Xbox 360 of GTA 4 and RDR1 back to back and tell me GTA 4 has better graphics. The physics are debatable but the graphics aren’t.
![GTA 4 vs RDR | Ultimate PHYSICS Comparison [PART-2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/53ocbj2GalY/mqdefault.jpg)
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Graphics = Rdr1
Story = Rdr1
Missions = Rdr1
Stranger missions = Rdr1
Score = Rdr1
Characters = Rdr1
Physics = Gta4 (barely)
Parkour = Gta4??
Weapons = Rdr1/Gta4
Character movement = Rdr1
Gun Aiming = Rdr1
Map = Rdr1
Lore = Rdr1
Transport = Gta4
Cowboys & Shit = Rdr1 (Obvously)
Winner: Red Dead Redemption.. and Red Dead Redemption 2.
Only RDR2 is better than GTA 4, don't make a joke of your comment SIR. Simply I only see leg shot better in RDR1 and nothing else was better but RDR2 is better in everything from GTA IV.
The story of RDR is better than IV but the graphics of both games at par and the protagonist of IV is better than John Marston.
Shut up and give your phone back to your mom @@Rachit8070-zv3of
@@Rachit8070-zv3of 😢😢😢😢 cry in peace
@@ziadamam1914 about what? about your life???
I've been waiting for someone to do this comparison, Both Grand Theft Auto IV and Red Dead Redemption have the same physics engine (RAGE). Plus both games have 2-3 year gap, so they are probably the only Rockstar games to have amazing physics.
Only RDR2 surpasses them, because GTA V is more arcade.
@@charlyg-2590 I'm with you on RDR2, GTA V Physics are well, Terrible Add a few physic mods and it's fine, but vanilla GTA V is Bad.
Fr facts
@@34_Brayan-Montanezit’s not that bad compared to recent games
@@34_Brayan-Montanezit was supposed to have better Ragdolls but the ps 3/xbox 360 couldn't handle it well and can be easily unlocked with mods and the car physics was made arcadey because people complained about gta 4 driving being so hard
5:57 the ONE thing I DON’T LIKE about GTA IV physics is how NPCs always seem to throw themselves over barriers like this. It’s like they’re trying TOO hard to do it intentionally
I guess it's more like how in action movies, actors will react dramatically to being shot and will take advantage of their surroundings while doing so. Afterall, GTA is meant to be a parody/videogame depiction of both real life and action movies the team may have watched/observed as a source material.
bro i like it when they do that wym
@@cool-x1f just looks way too forced and unnatural
Red Dead redemption has cars they're just hard to find The game takes place in 1911 and 1914
The game has cars but you can’t drive them
This is a much more fair comparison than 4 vs rdr2. There is only a 2 year difference between rdr1 and gta 4 which is why I was waiting for a comparison. I asked swifty crimson for a comparison like this but being the useless person he is, He ignored it.
_3:02_ *the horses:* 😴
Rdr1 has cars
But you can't drive them
@@krod1248 Really? I didn't know that.
@@krod1248you can though. It’s literally in the files they just forgot to implement sounds for the engine
@@Bugmultiversewell they forgot to implement it in the gameplay lol
As a Passenger? Sure.@@Bugmultiverse
_4:52__ the one who had diarrhea:_ 💀
It's not modded
Mf even modded GTA 4 and is proudly using it for a comparison
Those are GTA 4's vanilla physics du###ss
@@san_murat_131 shrimp that's the GTA 4 enhancer 4.0 mod. It changed the atmosphere, the og atmosphere is black and gritty
@@iammiller5478so? Hes testing out physics
@@pot6577 he should use the vanilla for comparison. Common use your brains dude.
@@iammiller5478 I swear this dude is everywhere 😂
1:55 oh my god i didnt know marston has goddang cake arthur called him a kid nah,he got some gyatt
That comparison would be perfect if it was made in 2010.
I’d say gta4 is kinda better ngl cause there’s more stuff to do and even though the physics are the same there slow asf in rdr1 and it’s unresponsive even when you fight and I’ve played both games but gta4 has better gun play and a overall funer experience but rdr1 was still a masterpiece
Cap
Nah rdr1 had better physics and a more fun gunplay experience, plus the artsyle is perfect
@@Bugmultiverse I will say it does have a better art style but NO WAY DID YOU SAY PHYSICS there slow asf in RDR and by that time they were already trying to make the physics worse wich happened in RDR-rdr2 and gta v. Gta4 was always funner given the fact that it had more stuff to do
@@iammiller5478 that’s really all you could say bro💀
@@UnknownEASTT agree to disagree but they are improved in rdrI take the rose glasses off friend
GTA 4 ❤
_6:20__ Did Niko say Messi?_ 😳
he said messy...
In red dead redemption if you can jump from a cart 1:38
Moded gta 4 vs raw rdr 1 * comparison
Before watching the video I say rdr is better
I'd say that they both are great
RDR1 wins by having rural areas and more animals.
Yes
Both great but RDR1 had such more
@@charlyg-2590 u make no sense rdr Don't have traffic nd cities
alright guys, now that rdr1 is on pc. Should i buy that for 50 bucks (undead nightmare also included) or should i buy gta 4 for 20 bucks (lost and damned, ballard of gay tony also included)?
pirate it
@ShubhamGupta-hg9md never
Red Dead Revolver has got increased IV engine, Rage
BTW: Why they didn't do shot area for bodies? its hilarous like death from shooting leg
Rdr looks more realistic than GTA IV
The texture quality and graphical fidelity is a nice middle ground between GTA 4 and GTA 5, I mean it did come out in 2010 after all.
What's this graphics mod in GTA 4 😒
I think its enhancer 4.0
I like rdr1 because of the leg shoot detail
HE USED A FUCKING SHOTGUN.
@@EgyptSentralstill shotgun in IV will not make them limp they will bend and walk like in any other case.
Red dead redemption has better physics and ragdolls
Eh, no. In Gta 4, ragdoll/physics are much smoother and fluid. You will notice this very clearly when you shoot NPCs. Additionally, NPCs will attempt to remain balanced in real time while in ragdoll/physics state.
In Rdr1, ragdoll/physics are stiffer. It's not very fluid. And NPCs don't try to stay balanced in a ragdoll/physics state.
But headshots are a lot of fun in this game.
@@MinecraftvsBurnout which is exactly why rdr1 is better, it has real time skeleton physics unlike gta 4
@@Bugmultiverse Either you misunderstood my comment or you didn't read it completely.
Gta 4 has real-time balancing physics.
And, unlike Rdr1, it is very easy to trigger the Euphoria physics in Gta 4. When you touch an NPC with a car, when you walk to the NPC, or when you shot it with a gun, it immediately switches to real-time balacing physics/ragdoll state.
In Rdr1, they "downgraded" all of this a little bit.
In Rdr1, when you walk to the NPC, it doesn't immediately go into ragdoll/physics state. Or when we touch the NPC with the horse, it doesn't immediately go into ragdoll/physics state. If you touch/walk to NPCs for a little too long, they will just go into ragdoll/physics state. But NPCs won't try to stay balanced too much. They will fall to the ground as if they have just forgotten how to walk.
The same goes for shooting NPCs with a gun. (They will die immediately from the chest area, arm and hand anyway) But even if they don't die, they will throw themselves to the ground. As you can see, the "immediately switching to smart ragdoll/physics state and staying in real-time balance" thing in Gta 4 has been removed in Rdr1.
But of course, Rdr1's Euphoria physics are still good.
Much better than Gta 5 and Rdr2's Euphoria.
@@MinecraftvsBurnoutBut that thing in GTA IV was not realistic. Everything In this game it's exaggerated, the game's NPCs don't have a human skeleton, they look extremely soft. Even when you bump into them, they don't react in a realistic way (either bodily speaking, or in a rational way). In real life, when a person is bumped, they are not taken as a role, without fighting back and Stare at the person who bumped you. In a shootout, you don't go soft when you get shot in the leg, in a sudden way. About an NPC getting shot in the chest and arms, and dying immediately, show me a video proving what you're saying. The chest is a very vital part during combat, it is no wonder that the bulletproof vest is on the chest as well. But anyway, the ragdoll in GTA IV is exaggerated, everything in this game is exaggerated!
@@Lo0pingGG Man, if NPCs in Gta 4 didn't have skeletons, they wouldn't be trying to stay balanced in real time. So they would immediately fall to the ground like jelly/liquid.
In this game, the NPCs are in a ragdoll state while the NPCs will try to stay balanced as long as they can (like a real person would). And they will do it in real time.
Of course, if there is a slope, obstacle, etc. where they step, they will either be more successful in balancing or they will fall.
When you walk towards/gentle push the NPC, the NPC will try to stay balanced and start walking in the direction you pushed it. (Yes in this case, the NPC will act a bit weird/drunk)
However, when you slowly push the NPCs with the car, they will try to protect themselves and their balance.
Thanks to the real-time and smart ragdoll system (Euphoria).
This ragdoll/physics always gives unpredictable results.
If you shoot the NPC in the leg, you will see it stumble, bending slightly and holding its leg with its hands. (different each time)
Sometimes they will also fall to the ground. Of course, if you shoot the NPC in both legs, it will fall to the ground. (That NPC shouldn't be able to get up after this, but that's the mechanics of the game completely, not the ragdoll)
There is no exaggeration, except that sometimes NPCs appear to be too drunk when in a ragdoll state. (And of course bike accidents are exaggerated)
This is the most complex and advanced ragdoll/physics yet. Even in new generation games the physics are not close to this.
Coming back to the Rdr1 topic, a person named "Sly" makes Rdr1 compilations.
But in his videos, he always shoots NPCs either in the head or in the chest.
I can say okay with the part where NPCs die directly from the chest. There are vital organs such as the heart.
As I said before, it is partly annoying when they die directly from the shoulder or arm.
That is, they even die from hands (rarely).
But if you want real and understandable proof, I recommend you play the game.
The game itself will help you understand or see.
_2:35__ in TLOU2 a trail is also formed before a Molotov cocktail is thrown._ 🌌
Delete your comments and just put it all in 1 comment instead of cluttering. The comment thread
@@BugmultiverseAnd why don't you delete your account and stop fooling around?
_6:40_
_you shoot him in RDR1: no problem!_ 😁
_you shoot him in RDR2:_ 💀
Did you comment 6 fckn times?!
@@Shrok7833yes any problem with that?
@@charlyg-2590well yes
Delete your comments and just put it all in 1 comment instead of cluttering. The comment thread
@@Bugmultiversenever.
Why does gta 4 look different?
Because its mods
It looks the same to me I just played it
Your PC specs, give me them ? 🧐
i think like red dead redemption more
Both Games are realy good
the leg shot part of the video is an unfair comparison, in gta 4 you used a pistol and in rdr1 you used a double barrel
Bruh they got the same engine
Yeah, i wanted to write the same comment
name one rockstars game that is not masterpiece. il wait
Thanks for waiting, GTA 2 and State of Emergency flopped
_6:14__ It seems to say: Auxilio! in Spanish._ 😮
Rdr1 ❤❤❤❤❤
RDR1 is better than GTA4 for so many reasons I can’t even count.
GTA IV is also better than RDR for so many reasons that if I start counting, it won't even fit in your brain cells.
rdr1 vs gta 4
rdr2 vs gta 5
rdr3 vs gta 6
There's no sense to compare GTA V with RDR2 because GTA V was regress at many many points of physics and details. There are some things that GTA V did better than GTA IV, but in the end GTA IV game from 2008 or 2009 (not sure) have still one of the best physics in the history of video games. And the only game that beats it up is RDR2. I think GTA VI is going to be even better but so far GTA IV has mechanics that today's games still don't have.
No stupid.
Rdr 1 vs gta iv(2010 vs 2008)
Gta v vs rdr 2(you compare 2013 game with 2018 game)
Than gta VI vs rdr 2💥🔥🔥(2025 vs 2018)
RDR is better and smart
Yeah RDR1 feels more mature than GTA4.
Before watching this video I knew gta4 is better.
Fr
In your dreams
rdrI expanded on gtaIV so it’s actually better than gta IV but you believe what you want. Fact doesnt change that rdrI is better
@@Bugmultiverse biggest gta4 opp=you
Nice video but is Just cause 2 better than gta 4 ? 🤔
no
Gta 4 ultimate evolution. Gta 5 was a huge disappointment other than air vehicles. Shouldve copy and pasted gta 4 physics.
graphics GTA 4
everything else RDR1
1:54 💀
Rdr1 have probably the most stiffest physic in rockstar game in the ps3 generation. Even more stiff than la noir
Gta 4 did better
Gta 4 is smoother and more fluid in terms of physics/ragdoll.
But, still, Rdr1's physics are not bad.
RDR1 was kinda already stripping down the physics from GTA 4
Yh it’s very slow when you fall in rdr1 for some odd reason and fighting feels slow and unresponsive wich would have made it better than gta4 if they kept the physics and the good gameplay like in gta4
Physics is not why people play games. GTA 4 physics are overrated af. Helicopters don't create holes in seas and neither does crashing a bike send you to space
You're right, man.
In Gta 4, ragdoll/physics are much smoother and fluid. You will notice this very clearly when you shoot NPCs. Additionally, NPCs will attempt to remain balanced in real time while in ragdoll/physics state.
In Rdr1, ragdoll/physics are stiffer. It's not very fluid (compared to Gta 4). And NPCs don't try to stay balanced in a ragdoll/physics state.
But headshots are a lot of fun in this game.
Nah it improved them
@@iammiller5478only if you ever had seen the wind from Helicopter's blades pushing water below it...
It’s funny to me how GTA IV came out in 2008 and RDR in 2010 yet GTA IV has better graphics and physics
He’s using a graphics mod, GTA4s vanilla graphics look like shit.
@@peepee2010 I wasn’t talking about the graphics mod, I was talking about the vanilla graphics. And no, they don’t look like shit. You literally must be 12 years old because when GTA IV first came out it was the best graphics anyone has ever seen in a game at that time and they still hold up pretty well even for todays standards. It’s obviously not as good GTA V or RDR2s graphics but it’s certainly better than RDR and most other games graphics
No I love GTA 4 BUT go play the PS3/Xbox 360 of GTA 4 and RDR1 back to back and tell me GTA 4 has better graphics. The physics are debatable but the graphics aren’t.
Gta 4 is better