Me too wouldn't buy a helmet without the sun visor, riding into the night to get to the destination I'm done with stopping to do a visor change and carrying a spare and tools
Someone told me 30 years ago that you either have a shoei shaped head or an arai shaped head, I don't even know if that's true but I had a shoei at the time and it fit perfectly so I have never even tried an arai. Might be missing something.
Thanks for the review! It really helped me make up my mind. Although you preferred the airoh, taking from your review the arai pros match the things I’m looking for on a dual sports helmet. Apart for the excessive price , the arais have always lived up to my expectations!
Like Frank I was wondering about wind noise, that’s one thing you can get from a real review as apposed to looking on a website. I have a caberg tourmax, which for £200 is amazing value, but I’m struggling to hear my sena at motorway speeds, I obviously don’t wear air plugs because I have the sena fitted. The Schubert’s e1 is meant to be really quiet but like the caberg it’s a bit ugly. Thanks for the review 👍
Hi Mike. Thanks for your comments and for watching the review. Apologies I can.t comment in the noise. I should do test on that with other helmets whilst using a comms system. You can get ear pieces custom made for wind noise protection as fitted with speakers, but a bit pricy right now. I did o out yesterday for a ride with my Arai on and I can say that even with ear plugs in it is much nosier than the Airoh. Stay safe. Billy
i used to buy shoei but gone to dear well over priced, bought the airoh commander and think the high price helmets nead to be cheaper well happy with airoh.
Hi Adrian. Agree. I would like to know where the cost really sits in manufacturing versus profit. I guess we will never know. Like you I am happy with the Airoh👍🏼. Stay safe. Billy
Great review mate . I too own arai xd4 and agree totally you do feel the weight on a full day ride and wind catches the visor heavier on that helmet . Been lookin at tryin on of these airoh commanders out . The weight and peek design looks better for static air flow . Im fully aware that the build quality wont match my arai but comfort on multi day rides is my aim so will look into one of these commanders .
Hi Wade. Thanks for watching and your comment! I really like the lightness of the commander. I recently did a day out with the Arai TX4 and I definitely felt the difference at the end of the day, sore neck. Challenge now is to find a helmet that has great build quality as Arai TX4 but the lightness of the Airoh C. You will notice a big difference! Cheers Billy
Nice review BUT you need to look at how they are built to justify the price difference. Arai is 100% built by hand except for the cutout for the visor which is done by laser. Next you forgot to look at the EPS inside. Arai uses different hardnesses in different areas. It’s hard to recommend a helmet to others as it all comes down to the fit and feel.
Thanks Karsten for watching and your comments. Agree its hard to recommend but some of the characteristics of a helmet can be shared but would never advocate buying one without trying one on first. You make some great points that I will be sure to carry forward, thanks! Stay safe. Billy
Thanks for the review Billy. I have just bought one of these based on your honest review. I am looking forward to trying it out and hope that the size is fine.
Hi Darsey no1. Thanks for watching the video and your message👍. I am hoping you won't be disappointed. Really nice lite and comfortable helmet. Let me know how you get on with it. Stay safe. Billy
Hi Silvsiri. Thanks for watching and subbing👍🏼👏. Very grateful for your support! Stay away from Domio, it will probably save you a lot of frustration and money. Thanks for following. Cheers. Billy 👍🏼
I ride naked dual sport/adventure bikes. The Arai peak doesn't catch any wind on those bike. Anytime you have a fairing on a bike, all bets are off in terms of turbulence affecting the helmet,
Hi Scott. thanks for watching and your comment. I think its more to do with the windshield and the turbulence it creates and the top or the clean air peak. That said when I had my KTM 1290 SAR which as a very small screen I did find that the peak on my Arai was more of a challenge than my Airoh. Great to hear that this does not affect you. Cheers. Billy.
Hi Ashim. Thanks for watching the video and your question. I can’t say that I have ever noticed vision distortion on the Arai. It’s always been good visibility from my point of view. Stay safe. Billy
Hi Frank. Thanks for your questions and for watching the video. Noise is a hard one for me to comment and I should have mentioned this in the video in hind sight. I wear customer inserts for my ears so each helmet that I wear is always quiet. I have to say that with these in, I can't tell a difference between the two. Not sure that helps. Sorry I could not help more. Stay safe. Cheers. Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures Ah no prob! Thanks for your reply anyway! I think about getting custom ear inserts as well, definitely the best solution. I just bought the Airoh Commander as well. I like the sun visor a lot, it was actually the reason I did not go for the Arai Tour X4. I think ventilation may become a problem in hot weather though. It’s hard to find a better ADV helmet than these two. Ride safe!
Hi Billy, thank you for good review. I confused about Arai TourX vs Shoei Hornet Adv vs Airooh Commander. Honesty, Airooh is the best for the model and price, but I don't know how the feel and others when fit on my head. Your review is nice when you have both Airooh and Arai. Can Airooh put Cardo PackTalk inside and still comfort for the ears ? Thank you. Stay safe and Greets from Indonesia. Chandra.
Hai Chandrajuliar Saya belum memiliki Cardo Pack Talk di Airoh saya. Namun, ada lubang untuk pengeras suara telinga, tetapi mungkin terlalu dangkal. Saya tidak yakin. Kasus terburuk adalah Anda mungkin harus memotong 1-2mm dari bagian telinga untuk memastikan kenyamanan. Tapi sudah ada jalan pintas untuk speaker telinga. Semoga membantu. Cintai negara Anda terutama selancar juga. Tetap aman. Billy
Belum pernah ke Indo tetapi tumbuh besar menonton banyak film selancar menakjubkan tentang Indo. Tempat yang indah, orang-orang. Berharap beberapa untuk bepergian ke sana. Tetap aman. Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures hi Billy, how about the ventilation inside, is Airoh doing as well Arai ? As I know Arai has good ventilation inside anf only little bit different degree inside vs outside. Minus for Arai about the peak that catch the wind ? Minus for Airoh about the mist on visor ? So if you have to buy a new helmet, will you choose Arai or Airoh ? Thanks.
@BillysBikeAdventures I'm in japan. So I belive they stopped at the x3. 4 is a bad luck number here and that's the real reason we didn't get it. But there was a visible 1cm gap on every side
HI Siddharth. A great question. I honestly don't know as there are more helmets out there that I need to try. Of the two from this video I would still opt for the Airoh as I believe that it has more to offer me than the Arai. I do want to do more reviews though so hopefully more to come. Thanks for watching and you comment. Stay safe, Billy
Hi Vitor. That's a good question! Clearly the Arai is the better built helmet but much heavier. The Airoh is splendidly light but not built as well. Depends on your view point. For me I really like wearing the Airoh on all day rides or multi days rides. I did wear the Arai recently on a pretty long ride and felt the difference in the weight with an aching neck. Most of the time I am wearing the Airoh. Hope that helps! Cheers Billy
I cant see them making any concession in safety to accommodate a drop down sun visor , generally from helmets i have owned an seen it is just that the outer shell is slightly bigger to give space to house the sun visor .
Thanks Rebel Archer for watching and your comments! I hope that is the case as my Airoh is so much more comfortable weight wise that putting the Arai back on is like wearing a brick. Stay safe. Billy
With the gap between the shield and shell filled with EPS, the shell is stronger and less likly to deform in a crash. Meaning it has a greater chance to glance off the impact surface and keep the energy moving forward. Gaps betwen the EPS and shell mean the shell will be more flexible. That means the helmet flattens out more on impact and creates more surface area. More surface area means more friction between the helmet and the impact surface. That makes the helmet more likely to stop. Anytime the helmet stops, energy comes in. This will also contribute to a greater likelihood that there will be an increase in rotational forces as the momentum continues to move forward.
So true Darren! I have added a defuser to my screen to help and has made a difference but those safety checks still give me a kick back with the wind on the peak of the X4. Thanks for your comment and watching the video. Stay safe. Billy
Hey Lari Fari. Thanks for watching the video and your question. Noise no bother with any helmet as I wear custom ear plugs. Can recommend them enough. Really do help in reducing noise significantly. Stay safe. Cheers. Billy
Had four Arai helmets in the last 10 years. I absolutely HATED them all! My last RX7 and Tour X4 both had the plastic bits braking off all the time (air intec) and had to be replaced with new. Both are super heavy and uncomfortable for long ride. No more Arai for me!
@@BillysBikeAdventures Thank you Billy. I am now using the Shoei Hornet Adventure for my BNW GS (absolutely love it) and the Alpinestars SM10 for off road and hot days. The SM10 is also an amazing helmet. I will strongly recommend them both.
@@BillysBikeAdventures I don’t use any communication system in my helmets. I like to keep my helmets as light as possible. Also, in an event of an accident, I don’t want to end up with a fraction of a speaker in my brain (-;
I bought Arai x4 before Airho every day .. since the interior of the Adventure Helmet Airoh Commander fell apart after one year of use, and the Arai helmet still looked new after one year .. Airho is a tough helmet in appearance, but the build quality is crap.
Hi TheJHA67. Thanks for watching and your comments! A shame your Airoh fell apart. Mine still in good nick so no complaints from me . I do like the Arai but they are so heavy. Having had a lite helmet now I can really notice the difference. Stay safe. Billy
im sad because im the only one who absolutely hates arai x4, its loud as heck, it always mists up for me , even with pin lock ( i have the one that tints from sun) and even get the fog between the pin lock and visor, and that one stays ... absolute rubish helmet, only pro that its comfortable and the intercom headphones sit in nicely ....
That’s a shame. I did a trip to Wales over the bank holiday weekend. The Airoh misted outside of the pin lock insert but thankfully not between the visor and insert. Surprised the X4 does not vent for you. Very heavy though. I don’t notice noise difference as I wear ear plugs regardless of helmet. Thanks for watching the vid and your comment. Stay safe. Billy
If your helmet is really loud, it might be too big. You could try a thicker crown liner and cheek pads to tighten it up. That will make it quiter. The cams on the shield have to be adjusted so the Pinlock seal is flat against the shield. Only adjust the cams with the Pinlock insert removed or you might break the cams.
I found the internal sun visor the helmets best feature it works great. Each to their own.
Different experiences. Great to hear that you get along with yours. Cheers. Billy
Me too wouldn't buy a helmet without the sun visor, riding into the night to get to the destination I'm done with stopping to do a visor change and carrying a spare and tools
That's a good point. I only wear tinted visor in the spring /.summer months. Cheers. Billy
Someone told me 30 years ago that you either have a shoei shaped head or an arai shaped head, I don't even know if that's true but I had a shoei at the time and it fit perfectly so I have never even tried an arai. Might be missing something.
Thanks for the review! It really helped me make up my mind. Although you preferred the airoh, taking from your review the arai pros match the things I’m looking for on a dual sports helmet. Apart for the excessive price , the arais have always lived up to my expectations!
Thanks Leandro for watching the video and your comment. Agree the Arai is a really good helmet. You won't go wrong with that. Stay safe. Billy
Like Frank I was wondering about wind noise, that’s one thing you can get from a real review as apposed to looking on a website. I have a caberg tourmax, which for £200 is amazing value, but I’m struggling to hear my sena at motorway speeds, I obviously don’t wear air plugs because I have the sena fitted. The Schubert’s e1 is meant to be really quiet but like the caberg it’s a bit ugly. Thanks for the review 👍
Hi Mike. Thanks for your comments and for watching the review. Apologies I can.t comment in the noise. I should do test on that with other helmets whilst using a comms system. You can get ear pieces custom made for wind noise protection as fitted with speakers, but a bit pricy right now. I did o out yesterday for a ride with my Arai on and I can say that even with ear plugs in it is much nosier than the Airoh. Stay safe. Billy
i used to buy shoei but gone to dear well over priced, bought the airoh commander and think the high price helmets nead to be cheaper well happy with airoh.
Hi Adrian. Agree. I would like to know where the cost really sits in manufacturing versus profit. I guess we will never know. Like you I am happy with the Airoh👍🏼. Stay safe. Billy
Great review mate . I too own arai xd4 and agree totally you do feel the weight on a full day ride and wind catches the visor heavier on that helmet . Been lookin at tryin on of these airoh commanders out . The weight and peek design looks better for static air flow . Im fully aware that the build quality wont match my arai but comfort on multi day rides is my aim so will look into one of these commanders .
Hi Wade. Thanks for watching and your comment! I really like the lightness of the commander. I recently did a day out with the Arai TX4 and I definitely felt the difference at the end of the day, sore neck. Challenge now is to find a helmet that has great build quality as Arai TX4 but the lightness of the Airoh C. You will notice a big difference! Cheers Billy
Nice review BUT you need to look at how they are built to justify the price difference. Arai is 100% built by hand except for the cutout for the visor which is done by laser. Next you forgot to look at the EPS inside. Arai uses different hardnesses in different areas.
It’s hard to recommend a helmet to others as it all comes down to the fit and feel.
Thanks Karsten for watching and your comments. Agree its hard to recommend but some of the characteristics of a helmet can be shared but would never advocate buying one without trying one on first. You make some great points that I will be sure to carry forward, thanks! Stay safe. Billy
Thanks for the review Billy. I have just bought one of these based on your honest review. I am looking forward to trying it out and hope that the size is fine.
Hi Darsey no1. Thanks for watching the video and your message👍. I am hoping you won't be disappointed. Really nice lite and comfortable helmet. Let me know how you get on with it. Stay safe. Billy
Hi I came here watching the Domio issue, then watched a lot of your vids .. love it , just subbed
Hi Silvsiri. Thanks for watching and subbing👍🏼👏. Very grateful for your support! Stay away from Domio, it will probably save you a lot of frustration and money. Thanks for following. Cheers. Billy 👍🏼
I ride naked dual sport/adventure bikes. The Arai peak doesn't catch any wind on those bike. Anytime you have a fairing on a bike, all bets are off in terms of turbulence affecting the helmet,
Hi Scott. thanks for watching and your comment. I think its more to do with the windshield and the turbulence it creates and the top or the clean air peak. That said when I had my KTM 1290 SAR which as a very small screen I did find that the peak on my Arai was more of a challenge than my Airoh. Great to hear that this does not affect you. Cheers. Billy.
Really good reviews. How does the sizing compare between the two?
Thanks for watching and your question. I was XL in both and they both fit very well. Cheers. Billy
you forgot to mention :( what about wind noise?
Hey mate. Noise is a hard one for me to talk about as i wear ear plugs regardless so always quiet. Sorry. Thanks for watching. Billy
Do you have vision distortion when wearing arai helmet? Many are saying that there is vision distortion on arai?
Hi Ashim. Thanks for watching the video and your question. I can’t say that I have ever noticed vision distortion on the Arai. It’s always been good visibility from my point of view. Stay safe. Billy
How about noise? Nice review, thank you!
Hi Frank. Thanks for your questions and for watching the video. Noise is a hard one for me to comment and I should have mentioned this in the video in hind sight. I wear customer inserts for my ears so each helmet that I wear is always quiet. I have to say that with these in, I can't tell a difference between the two. Not sure that helps. Sorry I could not help more. Stay safe. Cheers. Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures Ah no prob! Thanks for your reply anyway! I think about getting custom ear inserts as well, definitely the best solution. I just bought the Airoh Commander as well. I like the sun visor a lot, it was actually the reason I did not go for the Arai Tour X4. I think ventilation may become a problem in hot weather though. It’s hard to find a better ADV helmet than these two. Ride safe!
it was very difficult for me that re assembly of airoh after installing intercom in
Hi there. Did not realise it would be so miuch of a challenge to reasemble. Well done on doing it. Hope comms working well for you! Cheers. Billy
Arai said if they reduce the weight of the helmet they will compromise on the safety of the product and they will not do that .
Fair point, but could be made lighter with carbon
Hi Billy, thank you for good review. I confused about Arai TourX vs Shoei Hornet Adv vs Airooh Commander. Honesty, Airooh is the best for the model and price, but I don't know how the feel and others when fit on my head. Your review is nice when you have both Airooh and Arai. Can Airooh put Cardo PackTalk inside and still comfort for the ears ? Thank you. Stay safe and Greets from Indonesia.
Chandra.
Hai Chandrajuliar
Saya belum memiliki Cardo Pack Talk di Airoh saya. Namun, ada lubang untuk pengeras suara telinga, tetapi mungkin terlalu dangkal. Saya tidak yakin. Kasus terburuk adalah Anda mungkin harus memotong 1-2mm dari bagian telinga untuk memastikan kenyamanan. Tapi sudah ada jalan pintas untuk speaker telinga. Semoga membantu. Cintai negara Anda terutama selancar juga. Tetap aman. Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures thank you for your respond. Have you ever come to Indonesia ? Hope someday I can riding with you 🤗
Belum pernah ke Indo tetapi tumbuh besar menonton banyak film selancar menakjubkan tentang Indo. Tempat yang indah, orang-orang. Berharap beberapa untuk bepergian ke sana. Tetap aman. Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures hi Billy, how about the ventilation inside, is Airoh doing as well Arai ? As I know Arai has good ventilation inside anf only little bit different degree inside vs outside.
Minus for Arai about the peak that catch the wind ? Minus for Airoh about the mist on visor ?
So if you have to buy a new helmet, will you choose Arai or Airoh ? Thanks.
Does the airoh pinlock cover more of the visor than the arai?
Its about the same to be honest
@@BillysBikeAdventures ok thanks.
The edges of my arai pinlock drove me crazy.
My shoei was much better
I have had 2 Arai Tour x4s and both have been ok with pinlock edges. Frustrating you have had a different experience
@BillysBikeAdventures I'm in japan. So I belive they stopped at the x3. 4 is a bad luck number here and that's the real reason we didn't get it. But there was a visible 1cm gap on every side
What would be the best pick if money not the problem
HI Siddharth. A great question. I honestly don't know as there are more helmets out there that I need to try. Of the two from this video I would still opt for the Airoh as I believe that it has more to offer me than the Arai. I do want to do more reviews though so hopefully more to come. Thanks for watching and you comment. Stay safe, Billy
Nice info.. thank you.
Thanks for watching and hope it helped. Cheers. Billy
So what you recommended helmet, arai or Airoh.. huft I need lighter.
Hi,
So what is the best Arai or Airoh helmet?
Hi Vitor. That's a good question! Clearly the Arai is the better built helmet but much heavier. The Airoh is splendidly light but not built as well. Depends on your view point. For me I really like wearing the Airoh on all day rides or multi days rides. I did wear the Arai recently on a pretty long ride and felt the difference in the weight with an aching neck. Most of the time I am wearing the Airoh. Hope that helps! Cheers Billy
I cant see them making any concession in safety to accommodate a drop down sun visor , generally from helmets i have owned an seen it is just that the outer shell is slightly bigger to give space to house the sun visor .
Thanks Rebel Archer for watching and your comments! I hope that is the case as my Airoh is so much more comfortable weight wise that putting the Arai back on is like wearing a brick. Stay safe. Billy
With the gap between the shield and shell filled with EPS, the shell is stronger and less likly to deform in a crash. Meaning it has a greater chance to glance off the impact surface and keep the energy moving forward. Gaps betwen the EPS and shell mean the shell will be more flexible. That means the helmet flattens out more on impact and creates more surface area. More surface area means more friction between the helmet and the impact surface. That makes the helmet more likely to stop. Anytime the helmet stops, energy comes in. This will also contribute to a greater likelihood that there will be an increase in rotational forces as the momentum continues to move forward.
Wow Scott very informative. Thank you 🙏
Nice review. I like my x4 but do find you get a lot of vibrations off the peak with a decent touring screen
So true Darren! I have added a defuser to my screen to help and has made a difference but those safety checks still give me a kick back with the wind on the peak of the X4. Thanks for your comment and watching the video. Stay safe. Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures Noise too? How if you stand up (or ride a naked bike)?
Hey Lari Fari. Thanks for watching the video and your question. Noise no bother with any helmet as I wear custom ear plugs. Can recommend them enough. Really do help in reducing noise significantly. Stay safe. Cheers. Billy
Had four Arai helmets in the last 10 years. I absolutely HATED them all! My last RX7 and Tour X4 both had the plastic bits braking off all the time (air intec) and had to be replaced with new. Both are super heavy and uncomfortable for long ride.
No more Arai for me!
Thanks for sharing your experience with Arai and for watching the video. What are you using now? Cheers. Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures Thank you Billy. I am now using the Shoei Hornet Adventure for my BNW GS (absolutely love it) and the Alpinestars SM10 for off road and hot days. The SM10 is also an amazing helmet. I will strongly recommend them both.
They both look great esp the SM10. Do you use Comms unit in your Shoei and if so how's do the speaker fit? Nice and snug or anproblem
@@BillysBikeAdventures I don’t use any communication system in my helmets. I like to keep my helmets as light as possible. Also, in an event of an accident, I don’t want to end up with a fraction of a speaker in my brain (-;
Sound advice and makes the selection of chosing a helmet much broader 👍
I bought Arai x4 before Airho every day .. since the interior of the Adventure Helmet Airoh Commander fell apart after one year of use, and the Arai helmet still looked new after one year .. Airho is a tough helmet in appearance, but the build quality is crap.
Hi TheJHA67. Thanks for watching and your comments! A shame your Airoh fell apart. Mine still in good nick so no complaints from me . I do like the Arai but they are so heavy. Having had a lite helmet now I can really notice the difference. Stay safe. Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures I'm not the only one who has experienced this .. ruclips.net/video/_TB2YdtV0hw/видео.html&ab_channel=MotorcycleAdventures
im sad because im the only one who absolutely hates arai x4, its loud as heck, it always mists up for me , even with pin lock ( i have the one that tints from sun) and even get the fog between the pin lock and visor, and that one stays ... absolute rubish helmet, only pro that its comfortable and the intercom headphones sit in nicely ....
That’s a shame. I did a trip to Wales over the bank holiday weekend. The Airoh misted outside of the pin lock insert but thankfully not between the visor and insert. Surprised the X4 does not vent for you. Very heavy though. I don’t notice noise difference as I wear ear plugs regardless of helmet. Thanks for watching the vid and your comment. Stay safe. Billy
If your helmet is really loud, it might be too big. You could try a thicker crown liner and cheek pads to tighten it up. That will make it quiter. The cams on the shield have to be adjusted so the Pinlock seal is flat against the shield. Only adjust the cams with the Pinlock insert removed or you might break the cams.
Airoh made in..?
The bulk of its helmets are made in Italy, although the base models are made in an Airoh factory in China.
@@BillysBikeAdventures
Means assembled in china?!
As same as nolan?
Like most things