What disabling ult gen while in corrosive is going to is stop a lot of corrosive dk bombers.People will still do it however they will not be able to roll corrosives or leap/dawny with 100k pen after a fat bomb. The needed to nerf the pen of it and keep the ult gen.
Honestly I can respect it. They didn't completely gut the ability. That's a step above what we've seen from other developers where nerfs are so bad it isn't worth playing a class at all.
From a balancing perspective, it's right. From a DK perspective it's bad. It's just to bring the skill in line with other invulnerability ults like vamp or necro. Yeah its not crazy tanky but neither are those other ults. Had a healer in one of my BGs telling me about his build with DKs. Running Arkasis and crypt cannon so they could do corrosive leaps. Mechanically that's just broken, and should not be possible.
if corrosive didnt give you 100k pen none of this would be talked about. nobody is gonna care about a corrosive leap if you dont get 100k pen and this goes against the whole point of dk being an ult gen class. the issue is corrosive giving you a lot of free dmg and this does not solve that
@@Nessaiga i dont get your point. what would reducing corrosive to 50k pen do? nothing. its still the same ability, and if you reduce it too far would just make the ability useless and not worth running. they cant nerf anything else. Not only that but it makes sense as every transformation buff has this feature. Is DK an ult gen class because of its inherent design, or DK is an ult gen class because its ults are abusable... I like these changes. And yes please buff necro.
Delete corro from the game in my opinion. I’m a DK main and that skill is a carry, which is why I never slot it. I run nothing but leap, and I’ve never experienced any of the issues you mentioned. I also hit people with leap for 10-14k very often, so idk why you think leap has no damage.
huh? there's no way that you've never been bugged out by a leap. When someone leaps you, it basically stops you from moving more often than not especially when its laggy. It's so bad that you can tell you're being leaped without even having to look at the player most the time
funny enough i clicked on your channel and just watched you leap somebody with your coil proc and essence thief for 6k on console. leap is one of the worst if not the worst damage ult in the game. also if youre calling things a carry then why are you playing a dk? why not play a bad class like necro? why rage about something and say "delete" it with 0 logic behind it and no actual solution. the leap issues i already stated in the video and zirtun restated here
@@Nessaiga I agree with you 100%. Leap is good for grp stun - and knocking back. For dmg wise you have to build really good pen to get higher number than your whip. Corro is bad imho, becasue it gives us DKs too much pen and dmg mitigation. Removing the ulti gen is a bad move imho.
@@Nessaiga first and foremost, thanks for checking my videos out 🖤. As for leap, I did say that I hit 10-14k “often”, not always. Sure, some tank lords will take a 6k leap, is what it is. I play leap because it’s a fun skill, the same reason I play 2h or bow backbar. For me enjoyment trumps being a meta humper. As for why I play DK… well, because I enjoy brawling. I started as a dizzy stamcro, and it was the clunkiest thing ever, not to mention it was a buff maintenance machine, and boring af to play. DK is largely carried by corrosive, which is why you see everyone out there on masters dw, vate staff, cinder storm camping, coil corro cheesers. If corro was adjusted to actually be in line, people would bail off playing DK. In my opinion, corrosive should be split into 2 ultimates, one that gives damage and one that is for defense, not both in one skill. The offensive morph could maybe stay the same as it is now, maybe a small nerf idk, but splitting it seems like the sensible and easiest thing to do (how’s that for logic 🖤😘). As I’ve said before, I don’t even slot corrosive because I think it’s lame af, so I don’t really care what they do to nerf it. The real issue in all of this is heal stacking, mitigation, and generally, survivability being too high, to the point that you need 10k damage or corrosive to burst anyone down. But that’s a different conversation.
corrosive needed a change but this was not it. they should have kept some type of damage buff on corrosive (not max pen but something that boosts dps) and buffed magma on defense. not sure who gave the OK on this change but hopefully they try something different. i agree with standard being ok and leap being a doodoo ult. which is why it kinda made me sad cuz i remembered they removed the most fun ult to use on magdk. RIP bat swarm
This nerf is the best way to nerf the ability. You lose 12 seconds of ult gen and in return you get to keep the core aspect of corrosive which is good defense and good offense.
I swore I'd only play again when they obliterated dks, and not a moment before! Shit was ridiculous forever, apply nerf bat with greater force for maximum results. Brilliant to see it at bloody last
I'd be happy if they made it only an offensive option but reverse the damage mitigation part. Wings should reflect again, and reduce cost to bring counterplay to range
Other balance ideas -nerf undeath to 15% -cap health in battlespirit to 30k (maybe?) -nerf vateshran to a cost or reduced duration and effects -nerf masters dual wield -buff Necromancers damage skills or durations or both. Buff the self heal or remove the minor defile too. -sorc is fine. Streak is too good to buff them anymore now as of u40. -NB's have way to much burst with bow, tone that down to half it's current damage -nerf templars rune to half its value -nerf templar beam to 350% instead of 500% -buff templars jabs by 15%-20% (maybe more but test I guess) -Dk is fine with a nerfed corrosive -make Dk wings reflect with reduced cost duration (range needs counterplay and dks deserve it due to class kit)
Full reflection on wings again? No thanks, that will mess up a lot. There are reasons why they changed it 8 years ago or so. But they should redesign both morphs a bit so you can use them against more than just bad spammers or as a root/snare removal. Currently, especially the reflect morph is either quite funny against fools or a total waste of a slott. The anti cc morph, well I prefer to use race against time. So its bad designe too for a class skill. Speed buff would be much more usefull on anti cc wings instead on that clunky chain...
@@Unbornchikkenable The entire skill has been rendered unusable for years now. Reflect was the dk's identity for years until they changed it. Or they need to signifigantly buff the duration the skill provides to justify it's enourmous cost with only 6 seconds of almost unusable functionality when Race against time is 10x better in every way for damage and duration and effects.
I’m a DK Nord and I’m dying to frost damage so something else is going on 🤯 I don’t even use corrosive and I don’t use leap either… I’ve always ran shifting standard 🤬 I didn’t have this problem 24hours ago and now I can’t even break free from crowd control?!?! And this was my first ever character so now I’m screwed 😤
The corrosive nerf is fine. The problem was being able to generate ult whilst in corrosive either to chain corrosives or use sets which enable you and a group member to juggle ult. the pen you get from corrosive isn’t an issue for the game. It doesn’t last too long and competent players can survive it if they turtle up and kite. As for Necro, I agree, needs a change along with Templar rune and bubble. As for Nightblade, Incap into a spec bow is the only way to burst people semi-reliably these days on the class, as everyone is running around with 30-40k hp. If incap or spec bow doesn’t crit, then good luck killing tanky players (pretty much everyone) who are running all the aids under the sun to drain your HP and resources. Anyone who has seriously played NB and has experienced a spec bow missing entirely due to lag or just the clunky nature of the game, or even the bow not critting when they go for their kill combo will understand. You nerf spec bow, you kill NB. It pretty much relies on the combo hitting and critting to get consistent kills. Sorry but I can’t get behind direct tool tip nerfs in this game for dmg abilities no matter what the class. Tankiness and healing yeah, I always in favour of toning those things down as tanky healy metas make ESO a bore to play.
“The pen you get from corrosive isn’t an issue.” Tell that to all the ppl that die to corrosive dks and start screaming. We’re talking about the 99% of eso players, they do not kite the corrosive, they stand right in the face of dks and die and then complain it happened and they don’t heal themselves or do anything to try to stay alive during the encounter. You could nerf nb bow by 15-20% and you would still one shot 99% of Cyrodiil and if you miss your bow… just go again in a few seconds lol
@@NessaigaI'm glad you said 99% because i don't struggle with corro dk but I think that's because I'm a warden tank. That being said, I wonder if Zos will buff Necro, warden, and do after they nerf arcanist in the future
I dont think the disabling of ult gen is really a problem, but if they wanted to go harder on differentiating magma armor and corrosive, have full pen on corrosive but no defense so it isn't just an immediate "I win" button while magma armor is full defense
I guess I'm going to be that guy. The problem in PVP is that everyone is afraid to die. Everyone and their mamma is running some crazy tanky builds. The this nerf to corrosive is needed. You don't get to get back resources, ignore armor, get back resources and healed all in one go. Then be able to generate ulti while using your ulti. That does help with the fact that ulti does damage. over time. DK is a busted class, and as far as I'm concerned need to be nerfed more. There should be no perfect builds in PVP. Every build needs to sacrifice something.
I get 100% exactly where you’re coming from. I have played dk since the games release and corrosive has always been a thing for the last decade, it’s just how the game has shifted that has made it overpowered. The fact is the game has dog water meta, and unless they address the max hp tanking in pvp, the proc sets, and the healing the game will never be in a healthy state. I remember play bow and 2h dk with 22k hp and using corrosive as a tank ultimate, now its used exclusively as a damage ultimate because you need so much raw pen to kill players these days. I’m sorry but the meta is terrible, and the game takes zero skill to play anymore, especially with the hp stacking, proc sets, hybrids, and removal of most animation cancels. If you rock 40k hp in pvp with the proc sets you are the issue with pvp. The dev refuse to address anything because they just do not care, it’s evident with how they nerf dk in the wrong way, leave nb untouched, and still have yet to buff necros. The game needs a massive overhaul back to the way it use to play when 20k hp was the meta not 40k tanks with full profs and 0k armor. The game is so lifeless and pvp lacks skills. I agree cursive needed a nerf, but all they needed to do was make is a real tanking ultimate with less pen. Cap it as a %, like you ignore 50% of your opponents armor. Also they need to add into the battle spirit a hard cap of health at 30k hp, they need to nerf proc damage, and also increase their cooldown globally. The game should be able the usage of abilities, not waiting for your master Dw dot to tick a players healthy down or scavenging maw to hit 10k for doing nothing skillful at all. The state of the game saddens me, and I know most players would love to have a 1.6 server back when you could die when you let your buffs drop. Rant over but seriously the devs need to get their heads of out their greedy arses.
I recently came back to the game after 3 years and noticed that my bow 2h dk was not viable anymore very sad to see was my favourite set up no proc sets used to run spriggans and fortified brass
I love this change! On console atm the emp (Daweed) has a DK emp and his ulti gen is so good he pops corrosive and while corrosive is still active he'll have 1-2 leaps!!! It's insane.
@@Young_Revolutionary hello? Lol… I think you’ve got the wrong person, lad. I quite literally never have a healer, or even any cross heals whatsoever, unless a DK in group is using cinder storm, so… 🤷♀️
Árcanist needs a nerf. That class is just “press beam”. I’m all seriousness Arcanist is literally the best at everything and outshines all classes at every role. I mean have you played a BG against 2 full teams of them? It’s insane XD
Man we must all be playing against different people. DKs , Wardens, and about 50% of sorcs, and maybe 10% of nb are nigh unkillable. Corrosive nerf is justified to make it in line with vamp and necro ults, which to me I think that makes it a fair comparison- essentially make the game a reset, yet corr has better damage to boot. Also, no nb bow is doing 30k damage to anyone worth a damn... meaning anyone who gets hit for that much would have been dead by getting sneezed on, likewise those nbs are basically zero health gankers deleted by any and all aoe or any type of thorns damage…such as volatile armor. Lastly, have you taken a look at the endless archives dk set?? I mean oh my lord. The ult gen and defense is insane. That’s my guess as to why corr got a nerf, but dk will still reign supreme.
I think that’s the point of this nerf. Now you just can’t crutch on it and recast it as soon. Other classes actually have to build for sustain and pen and tankyness, not just ulti gen.
Corrosive defense is fine, just compare it to other defense ults. You say corrosive defense isn’t that good, well what about shield wall? You take 100% dot damage while you use it, ehat about ravenous goliath if you dont have a few people near you you are not surviving since you still take full damage. Look at the soul tether defensive morph its trash next to corrosive, barrier defense wise not as good as corrosive. Really the only ult that is better defensively is the resto ult. If you think corrosive defense is bad just remember there plenty of worst ults defensively
your logic is backwards. just because something is better then something else comparatively doesnt mean its good either, its just better then something else that is a worse off option. defensively corrosive is not that insane. the power of corrosive comes from the 100K PEN 1. shield wall is cheaper, blocks all direct dmg for free and reflects??? 2. goliath heals you when it deals dmg AND GIVES YOU 30K HP?????? 3. Soul Siphon literally gives major vitality and a MASSIVE heal????? have you used or read any of those skills? also these skills give defense with 0 offense, so again whats the difference? ah the pen on corrosive yet again
@@Nessaiga how many of those ults do you see being used over corrosive on a day to day basis? Corrosive defense is fine if you find that corrosive isn’t mitigating enough damage for you then it’s definitely the position you put yourself in.
@@prisonmykee2595 "how many of those ults do you see being used over corrosive on a day to day basis?" - I see a lot of ppl using leap every day, does that make leap a good ultimate? absolutely not. so what kind of logic is this? if ppl dont use it then its bad? most ppl that play eso dont know whats going on let alone use the right skills. "Corrosive defense is fine if you find that corrosive isn’t mitigating enough damage for you then it’s definitely the position you put yourself in." - i said corrosive defense isnt as great as everyone makes it out to be. didnt call it terrible like your trying to make it out to be. as for this part, "if you find that corrosive isn’t mitigating enough damage for you then it’s definitely the position you put yourself in." if youre trying to be angy and call me bad/stupid then just do it LOL bc nowhere did i say "corrosive isnt enough." i literally say corrosive defense isnt that crazy bc I kill ppl while they are in corrosive 1v1 every day. its almost like i have experience using it and going against it
@@Nessaiga Slow your role chief its not that deep i dont need to insult or attack you to make a point. You literally said corrosive defense is nothing and now you shifted it to its not that crazy. You said corrosive defense was good when dks had about 25k hp meaning you only took 750 damage and now that dks have 30k hp suddenly to you corrosive dk is nothing even though you are only taking an extra 150 more damage. To also comment on your argument that you said “ some of my dots do full damage even against corrosive”, well duh of course some of your weaker dots will deal full damage because some dot effects will deal less than 1k and dks that have about 30k hp are limiting damage to a cap of about 900-1200k on average. But hey at least you can mitigate dots shield ult cant even do that and you can also block in corrosive so the only thing the shield ult has over corrosive is that it can reflect in a game where reflect is barely used.
3% is 3%, you are taking a percentage of damage rather than a number so amount of health doesnt change the percentage of damage to your max health. It is the same tankyness as when people ran 20k hp
"Oxidize the green Dragon blood in your veins, limiting incoming damage to 3% of your Max Health and dealing 347 Poison Damage to nearby enemies each second for 10 seconds. While active, this ability and your direct damage attacks ignores enemy Physical and Spell Resistance, but you cannot generate Ultimate." LiMiTiNg InCoMiNg DaMaGe To 3% Of YoUr MaX hEaLtH
Warranted nerf. There is worse self buff ults that have been cutting off ult gen for years. It made no sense that something like this that makes you virtually unkillable and offers max pen is on a class that already builds so highly into ult gen and defence to begin with. Think about it. Most classes like the NB bow proc you reference have to sacrifice defence to build into being a glass cannon to pull that off in the first place and they're useless against a good DK anyhow. They're picking off zerglings and other glass cannons. When the combo doesn't work they either have to dip or they're screwed. DKs are brawlers, they get sustain/defence/offence and some of the best CC in the game by mostly only building into ult gen. It had to go 1 of 2 ways. Either cut off ult gen or remove the 3% max hp bonus, so imo im happy with what they chose and im seeing a lot of DK mains agreeing. For too long DKs have been able to focus on defensive/utility bases sets and bonuses, yet are still able to output great burst while being tanky. The last class able to pull that off was Warden during the max hp stacking malacath proc meta before they added set scaling.
It doesn't deserve to be Nerf more you people are going to make DK unplayable everybody's going to switch to The Arcanist at that point and with The Arcanist and her skill line on your front bar you have over a 10K non buffed. wtf my guy
Wow, the third time in 8 years that dk will get nerfed. I know after dk, they gonna buff the nb a bit and then dunk on it again and budd dk back to meta. Same repeat pattern. Edit: Also you said nb bows for 30k? Lol, idk about that. Yeah it can do 30k, ona glass cannon. On a dk, arcanist, its like 11k, 16k at best. If the nb keeps getting nerfed, what the hell is the point of having an assassin class in the game.
@@acesarca yah, it's can be annoying. The endeavor system made it a little better but it's still frustrating to see IRL money used in games but I can also see how a live service game that's intended to last generations needs consistent income to keep the servers running. I just wish it didn't take 9 years to make the game work better in pvp. It took too long and many have left never to see it work to it's full potential. I think we're still waiting to see it work to a full potential but the performance we have now is probably as good as it's going to get.
@@ESO_PRIME def is better i have been main imperal templar since 2016 when is good or bad im still play tge same char, can adopd to any farm grind and bugs. But the rewards and uniqe stuff are missing. Im 2000cp got it by pure playing not grind cp. Also i do play wow which i started 3 months ago and is much more fun. As well guild wars2 this 2 games outstand eso because of uniqe stuff and rewards and that is what eso is missing. Also to mention rank arenas and tournaments.
Definitely not the proper way to balance the ultimate. Let me know your thoughts!
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What disabling ult gen while in corrosive is going to is stop a lot of corrosive dk bombers.People will still do it however they will not be able to roll corrosives or leap/dawny with 100k pen after a fat bomb. The needed to nerf the pen of it and keep the ult gen.
Honestly I can respect it.
They didn't completely gut the ability.
That's a step above what we've seen from other developers where nerfs are so bad it isn't worth playing a class at all.
When are they gone nerf arcanist spam beam that does all that damage and that stun that freezes u into place
From a balancing perspective, it's right. From a DK perspective it's bad. It's just to bring the skill in line with other invulnerability ults like vamp or necro. Yeah its not crazy tanky but neither are those other ults. Had a healer in one of my BGs telling me about his build with DKs. Running Arkasis and crypt cannon so they could do corrosive leaps. Mechanically that's just broken, and should not be possible.
if corrosive didnt give you 100k pen none of this would be talked about. nobody is gonna care about a corrosive leap if you dont get 100k pen and this goes against the whole point of dk being an ult gen class. the issue is corrosive giving you a lot of free dmg and this does not solve that
@@Nessaiga i dont get your point. what would reducing corrosive to 50k pen do? nothing. its still the same ability, and if you reduce it too far would just make the ability useless and not worth running. they cant nerf anything else. Not only that but it makes sense as every transformation buff has this feature. Is DK an ult gen class because of its inherent design, or DK is an ult gen class because its ults are abusable... I like these changes.
And yes please buff necro.
If the intention was to make it like scion or Goliath then they should increase the duration.
Total leap gang victory 👽👽👽
I’m surprised anyone still plays from the old days. Hope you’re doing well man
Appreciate it and same to you as well!
Delete corro from the game in my opinion. I’m a DK main and that skill is a carry, which is why I never slot it. I run nothing but leap, and I’ve never experienced any of the issues you mentioned. I also hit people with leap for 10-14k very often, so idk why you think leap has no damage.
huh? there's no way that you've never been bugged out by a leap. When someone leaps you, it basically stops you from moving more often than not especially when its laggy. It's so bad that you can tell you're being leaped without even having to look at the player most the time
funny enough i clicked on your channel and just watched you leap somebody with your coil proc and essence thief for 6k on console. leap is one of the worst if not the worst damage ult in the game. also if youre calling things a carry then why are you playing a dk? why not play a bad class like necro? why rage about something and say "delete" it with 0 logic behind it and no actual solution. the leap issues i already stated in the video and zirtun restated here
@@Nessaiga I agree with you 100%. Leap is good for grp stun - and knocking back. For dmg wise you have to build really good pen to get higher number than your whip. Corro is bad imho, becasue it gives us DKs too much pen and dmg mitigation. Removing the ulti gen is a bad move imho.
@@Nessaiga first and foremost, thanks for checking my videos out 🖤. As for leap, I did say that I hit 10-14k “often”, not always. Sure, some tank lords will take a 6k leap, is what it is. I play leap because it’s a fun skill, the same reason I play 2h or bow backbar. For me enjoyment trumps being a meta humper. As for why I play DK… well, because I enjoy brawling. I started as a dizzy stamcro, and it was the clunkiest thing ever, not to mention it was a buff maintenance machine, and boring af to play. DK is largely carried by corrosive, which is why you see everyone out there on masters dw, vate staff, cinder storm camping, coil corro cheesers. If corro was adjusted to actually be in line, people would bail off playing DK. In my opinion, corrosive should be split into 2 ultimates, one that gives damage and one that is for defense, not both in one skill. The offensive morph could maybe stay the same as it is now, maybe a small nerf idk, but splitting it seems like the sensible and easiest thing to do (how’s that for logic 🖤😘). As I’ve said before, I don’t even slot corrosive because I think it’s lame af, so I don’t really care what they do to nerf it.
The real issue in all of this is heal stacking, mitigation, and generally, survivability being too high, to the point that you need 10k damage or corrosive to burst anyone down. But that’s a different conversation.
@@Zirtun_is this a pc thing? I never had this problem on console 😮
corrosive needed a change but this was not it. they should have kept some type of damage buff on corrosive (not max pen but something that boosts dps) and buffed magma on defense. not sure who gave the OK on this change but hopefully they try something different.
i agree with standard being ok and leap being a doodoo ult. which is why it kinda made me sad cuz i remembered they removed the most fun ult to use on magdk. RIP bat swarm
This nerf is the best way to nerf the ability. You lose 12 seconds of ult gen and in return you get to keep the core aspect of corrosive which is good defense and good offense.
Meh, wasn’t an issue before hybridization. Corrosive was fine until you were able to run FoO and whip with it.
A really necessary nerf
I swore I'd only play again when they obliterated dks, and not a moment before!
Shit was ridiculous forever, apply nerf bat with greater force for maximum results. Brilliant to see it at bloody last
I'd be happy if they made it only an offensive option but reverse the damage mitigation part. Wings should reflect again, and reduce cost to bring counterplay to range
Other balance ideas
-nerf undeath to 15%
-cap health in battlespirit to 30k (maybe?)
-nerf vateshran to a cost or reduced duration and effects
-nerf masters dual wield
-buff Necromancers damage skills or durations or both. Buff the self heal or remove the minor defile too.
-sorc is fine. Streak is too good to buff them anymore now as of u40.
-NB's have way to much burst with bow, tone that down to half it's current damage
-nerf templars rune to half its value
-nerf templar beam to 350% instead of 500%
-buff templars jabs by 15%-20% (maybe more but test I guess)
-Dk is fine with a nerfed corrosive
-make Dk wings reflect with reduced cost duration (range needs counterplay and dks deserve it due to class kit)
Full reflection on wings again? No thanks, that will mess up a lot. There are reasons why they changed it 8 years ago or so. But they should redesign both morphs a bit so you can use them against more than just bad spammers or as a root/snare removal. Currently, especially the reflect morph is either quite funny against fools or a total waste of a slott. The anti cc morph, well I prefer to use race against time. So its bad designe too for a class skill. Speed buff would be much more usefull on anti cc wings instead on that clunky chain...
@@Unbornchikkenable The entire skill has been rendered unusable for years now. Reflect was the dk's identity for years until they changed it. Or they need to signifigantly buff the duration the skill provides to justify it's enourmous cost with only 6 seconds of almost unusable functionality when Race against time is 10x better in every way for damage and duration and effects.
I’m a DK Nord and I’m dying to frost damage so something else is going on 🤯 I don’t even use corrosive and I don’t use leap either… I’ve always ran shifting standard 🤬 I didn’t have this problem 24hours ago and now I can’t even break free from crowd control?!?! And this was my first ever character so now I’m screwed 😤
This isn’t even just happening in pvp… I’m having the same problems in dungeons and over lands!!
A unique 6600 pen and increase the damage the ult itself does. Why they would make a Dragonknight ult disable ult Gen is baffling to me
The corrosive nerf is fine. The problem was being able to generate ult whilst in corrosive either to chain corrosives or use sets which enable you and a group member to juggle ult. the pen you get from corrosive isn’t an issue for the game. It doesn’t last too long and competent players can survive it if they turtle up and kite.
As for Necro, I agree, needs a change along with Templar rune and bubble.
As for Nightblade, Incap into a spec bow is the only way to burst people semi-reliably these days on the class, as everyone is running around with 30-40k hp. If incap or spec bow doesn’t crit, then good luck killing tanky players (pretty much everyone) who are running all the aids under the sun to drain your HP and resources. Anyone who has seriously played NB and has experienced a spec bow missing entirely due to lag or just the clunky nature of the game, or even the bow not critting when they go for their kill combo will understand. You nerf spec bow, you kill NB. It pretty much relies on the combo hitting and critting to get consistent kills.
Sorry but I can’t get behind direct tool tip nerfs in this game for dmg abilities no matter what the class. Tankiness and healing yeah, I always in favour of toning those things down as tanky healy metas make ESO a bore to play.
“The pen you get from corrosive isn’t an issue.” Tell that to all the ppl that die to corrosive dks and start screaming. We’re talking about the 99% of eso players, they do not kite the corrosive, they stand right in the face of dks and die and then complain it happened and they don’t heal themselves or do anything to try to stay alive during the encounter.
You could nerf nb bow by 15-20% and you would still one shot 99% of Cyrodiil and if you miss your bow… just go again in a few seconds lol
@@NessaigaI'm glad you said 99% because i don't struggle with corro dk but I think that's because I'm a warden tank.
That being said, I wonder if Zos will buff Necro, warden, and do after they nerf arcanist in the future
I dont think the disabling of ult gen is really a problem, but if they wanted to go harder on differentiating magma armor and corrosive, have full pen on corrosive but no defense so it isn't just an immediate "I win" button while magma armor is full defense
I guess I'm going to be that guy. The problem in PVP is that everyone is afraid to die. Everyone and their mamma is running some crazy tanky builds. The this nerf to corrosive is needed. You don't get to get back resources, ignore armor, get back resources and healed all in one go. Then be able to generate ulti while using your ulti. That does help with the fact that ulti does damage.
over time. DK is a busted class, and as far as I'm concerned need to be nerfed more. There should be no perfect builds in PVP. Every build needs to sacrifice something.
I get 100% exactly where you’re coming from. I have played dk since the games release and corrosive has always been a thing for the last decade, it’s just how the game has shifted that has made it overpowered. The fact is the game has dog water meta, and unless they address the max hp tanking in pvp, the proc sets, and the healing the game will never be in a healthy state. I remember play bow and 2h dk with 22k hp and using corrosive as a tank ultimate, now its used exclusively as a damage ultimate because you need so much raw pen to kill players these days.
I’m sorry but the meta is terrible, and the game takes zero skill to play anymore, especially with the hp stacking, proc sets, hybrids, and removal of most animation cancels. If you rock 40k hp in pvp with the proc sets you are the issue with pvp. The dev refuse to address anything because they just do not care, it’s evident with how they nerf dk in the wrong way, leave nb untouched, and still have yet to buff necros. The game needs a massive overhaul back to the way it use to play when 20k hp was the meta not 40k tanks with full profs and 0k armor. The game is so lifeless and pvp lacks skills. I agree cursive needed a nerf, but all they needed to do was make is a real tanking ultimate with less pen. Cap it as a %, like you ignore 50% of your opponents armor. Also they need to add into the battle spirit a hard cap of health at 30k hp, they need to nerf proc damage, and also increase their cooldown globally. The game should be able the usage of abilities, not waiting for your master Dw dot to tick a players healthy down or scavenging maw to hit 10k for doing nothing skillful at all. The state of the game saddens me, and I know most players would love to have a 1.6 server back when you could die when you let your buffs drop. Rant over but seriously the devs need to get their heads of out their greedy arses.
Bang on mate, games gone at the minute. I’m a DK main and never slot corro because it’s a corny ass ability. GG on your post though
@@liekosdawn thank you man! Yeah I only use CA in open world to counter others using it.
I recently came back to the game after 3 years and noticed that my bow 2h dk was not viable anymore very sad to see was my favourite set up no proc sets used to run spriggans and fortified brass
@@ihippz bow 2h can still be viable, I play it often. You just have to adjust your build a little bit. I’m happy to help if you want. 🐉
Yeah I miss that 20k health meta gameplay tbh
Major and Minor Snares. Please all this % is making my brain hurt.
Imagine doing a bomb and then having no ult to bomb again lol. Rip dk cleave bombs
So they went this route instead of just removing the "resistance" interesting....
Stacking ultimates should have never been possible in the first place, but I do agree that the pen needs a serious nerf.
It needs to be defensive or offensive my solution is maybe put a serious snare on it so that you aren’t fast and basically un killable
I love this change! On console atm the emp (Daweed) has a DK emp and his ulti gen is so good he pops corrosive and while corrosive is still active he'll have 1-2 leaps!!! It's insane.
Daweed corny af 😂
@liekosdawn Daweed don't need a pocket healer bro and you know what I'm talking about 😂
@@Young_Revolutionary hello? Lol… I think you’ve got the wrong person, lad. I quite literally never have a healer, or even any cross heals whatsoever, unless a DK in group is using cinder storm, so… 🤷♀️
Árcanist needs a nerf. That class is just “press beam”. I’m all seriousness Arcanist is literally the best at everything and outshines all classes at every role. I mean have you played a BG against 2 full teams of them? It’s insane XD
So obviously they missed the mark with corrosive … either should have removed pen or dmg reduction … if it has only one then it’s balanced imo
Good they should nerf it more. Sick of these lames thinking they are super good when corrosive was carrying.
What about combat frenzy?
Ok so nb is allowed to bomb people but dk isn't? Okay zenimax
Man we must all be playing against different people. DKs , Wardens, and about 50% of sorcs, and maybe 10% of nb are nigh unkillable. Corrosive nerf is justified to make it in line with vamp and necro ults, which to me I think that makes it a fair comparison- essentially make the game a reset, yet corr has better damage to boot. Also, no nb bow is doing 30k damage to anyone worth a damn... meaning anyone who gets hit for that much would have been dead by getting sneezed on, likewise those nbs are basically zero health gankers deleted by any and all aoe or any type of thorns damage…such as volatile armor. Lastly, have you taken a look at the endless archives dk set?? I mean oh my lord. The ult gen and defense is insane. That’s my guess as to why corr got a nerf, but dk will still reign supreme.
How in the world will DKs be able to survive now? 🤣🤣🤣
They shouldnt even nerfed it at all.. its been pretty much the same since launch. The counter to corrosive is easy.. just walk away for 13 seconds.
I think that’s the point of this nerf. Now you just can’t crutch on it and recast it as soon. Other classes actually have to build for sustain and pen and tankyness, not just ulti gen.
Dk still gonna be top class on side of nb.
unfortunately this isnt a MASSIVE nerf. its not going to effect anything really in this meta, imo.
Yeah it will, might not seem like it on paper but DKs gonna feel the lack of uptime on corrosive big time.
Corrosive defense is fine, just compare it to other defense ults. You say corrosive defense isn’t that good, well what about shield wall? You take 100% dot damage while you use it, ehat about ravenous goliath if you dont have a few people near you you are not surviving since you still take full damage. Look at the soul tether defensive morph its trash next to corrosive, barrier defense wise not as good as corrosive. Really the only ult that is better defensively is the resto ult. If you think corrosive defense is bad just remember there plenty of worst ults defensively
your logic is backwards. just because something is better then something else comparatively doesnt mean its good either, its just better then something else that is a worse off option.
defensively corrosive is not that insane. the power of corrosive comes from the 100K PEN
1. shield wall is cheaper, blocks all direct dmg for free and reflects???
2. goliath heals you when it deals dmg AND GIVES YOU 30K HP??????
3. Soul Siphon literally gives major vitality and a MASSIVE heal?????
have you used or read any of those skills? also these skills give defense with 0 offense, so again whats the difference? ah the pen on corrosive yet again
@@Nessaiga how many of those ults do you see being used over corrosive on a day to day basis? Corrosive defense is fine if you find that corrosive isn’t mitigating enough damage for you then it’s definitely the position you put yourself in.
@@prisonmykee2595 "how many of those ults do you see being used over corrosive on a day to day basis?" - I see a lot of ppl using leap every day, does that make leap a good ultimate? absolutely not. so what kind of logic is this? if ppl dont use it then its bad? most ppl that play eso dont know whats going on let alone use the right skills.
"Corrosive defense is fine if you find that corrosive isn’t mitigating enough damage for you then it’s definitely the position you put yourself in." - i said corrosive defense isnt as great as everyone makes it out to be. didnt call it terrible like your trying to make it out to be.
as for this part, "if you find that corrosive isn’t mitigating enough damage for you then it’s definitely the position you put yourself in." if youre trying to be angy and call me bad/stupid then just do it LOL bc nowhere did i say "corrosive isnt enough." i literally say corrosive defense isnt that crazy bc I kill ppl while they are in corrosive 1v1 every day. its almost like i have experience using it and going against it
@@Nessaiga Slow your role chief its not that deep i dont need to insult or attack you to make a point. You literally said corrosive defense is nothing and now you shifted it to its not that crazy. You said corrosive defense was good when dks had about 25k hp meaning you only took 750 damage and now that dks have 30k hp suddenly to you corrosive dk is nothing even though you are only taking an extra 150 more damage. To also comment on your argument that you said “ some of my dots do full damage even against corrosive”, well duh of course some of your weaker dots will deal full damage because some dot effects will deal less than 1k and dks that have about 30k hp are limiting damage to a cap of about 900-1200k on average. But hey at least you can mitigate dots shield ult cant even do that and you can also block in corrosive so the only thing the shield ult has over corrosive is that it can reflect in a game where reflect is barely used.
3% is 3%, you are taking a percentage of damage rather than a number so amount of health doesnt change the percentage of damage to your max health. It is the same tankyness as when people ran 20k hp
"Oxidize the green Dragon blood in your veins, limiting incoming damage to 3% of your Max Health and dealing 347 Poison Damage to nearby enemies each second for 10 seconds. While active, this ability and your direct damage attacks ignores enemy Physical and Spell Resistance, but you cannot generate Ultimate."
LiMiTiNg InCoMiNg DaMaGe To 3% Of YoUr MaX hEaLtH
Warranted nerf. There is worse self buff ults that have been cutting off ult gen for years. It made no sense that something like this that makes you virtually unkillable and offers max pen is on a class that already builds so highly into ult gen and defence to begin with.
Think about it. Most classes like the NB bow proc you reference have to sacrifice defence to build into being a glass cannon to pull that off in the first place and they're useless against a good DK anyhow. They're picking off zerglings and other glass cannons. When the combo doesn't work they either have to dip or they're screwed.
DKs are brawlers, they get sustain/defence/offence and some of the best CC in the game by mostly only building into ult gen. It had to go 1 of 2 ways. Either cut off ult gen or remove the 3% max hp bonus, so imo im happy with what they chose and im seeing a lot of DK mains agreeing.
For too long DKs have been able to focus on defensive/utility bases sets and bonuses, yet are still able to output great burst while being tanky. The last class able to pull that off was Warden during the max hp stacking malacath proc meta before they added set scaling.
It doesn't deserve to be Nerf more you people are going to make DK unplayable everybody's going to switch to The Arcanist at that point and with The Arcanist and her skill line on your front bar you have over a 10K non buffed. wtf my guy
That's what is happening right now in pvp sadly
That's what happened when the necro came out and then the Nerf the s*** out of it it will happen to The Arcanist as well it's just a matter of time
15m video only about one change XD
Bout time!!!
Need to sign a petition to bring back necro bombing 😢 but yeah necro is really bad rn, it was not too bad when intensive mender actually was useful.
DESERVED NERF IT MORE
😮 no!!!
about time
But what about healing buff to stam sorcs … cuz let’s face it they need it
with their insane damage? no thanks
P r o m o s m 😀
DK RIP
zos - maybe nefr absolutely broken arcanist or nb?
also zos - nah, nerf DK
They can't nerf NB because that's their favorite class and they won't nerf arcanist because they need to sell the Necrom chapter 😂
Wow, the third time in 8 years that dk will get nerfed. I know after dk, they gonna buff the nb a bit and then dunk on it again and budd dk back to meta. Same repeat pattern.
Edit: Also you said nb bows for 30k? Lol, idk about that. Yeah it can do 30k, ona glass cannon. On a dk, arcanist, its like 11k, 16k at best. If the nb keeps getting nerfed, what the hell is the point of having an assassin class in the game.
"If the nb keeps getting nerfed," im sorry but what game are you playing? nb nerfed??? "KEEPS" GETTING NERFED???????
they kinda ruined dk for solo players here
buff dks
Don't play that build anyways
This game sucks , it changes every patch
little changes is healthy, keeps us end game players active and changing it up is fun. The same old same old gets very stale for everyday players.
@@ESO_PRIME could be thr true , but i really hate reward system and crownstore
@@acesarca yah, it's can be annoying. The endeavor system made it a little better but it's still frustrating to see IRL money used in games but I can also see how a live service game that's intended to last generations needs consistent income to keep the servers running. I just wish it didn't take 9 years to make the game work better in pvp. It took too long and many have left never to see it work to it's full potential. I think we're still waiting to see it work to a full potential but the performance we have now is probably as good as it's going to get.
@@ESO_PRIME def is better i have been main imperal templar since 2016 when is good or bad im still play tge same char, can adopd to any farm grind and bugs. But the rewards and uniqe stuff are missing. Im 2000cp got it by pure playing not grind cp. Also i do play wow which i started 3 months ago and is much more fun. As well guild wars2 this 2 games outstand eso because of uniqe stuff and rewards and that is what eso is missing. Also to mention rank arenas and tournaments.
Stop crying