What Happened to the Xenomorph Queen After Alien vs Predator? - Theory
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Did the Queen really die in the waters below Bouvet Island? We provide a possible theory that could point to her survival.
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What do you guys think happened? Also forgot to mention that this Queen was much larger than the one seen on Hadley's Hope. So that might factor in to its possible survival.
Might be worth mentioning that humans can actually survive in space for the amount of time the xeno's are displayed to be in space in the movies.
Hybrid Network who cares what happened to her? That movie sucked after the Predator started working with the girl.
this was kind of explained in predator concrete jungle the game .. mother explains that hunter found the Xenomorph that are in his compound and seeing that the game takes place after the movie but is in the same timeline it make sense
Hybrid Network ALIEN FISH FOOD? lol
Hybrid Network Probably fell so far, preassure crushed her.
Finding out what happened to the queen in the sequel, would have been better than AVP:R.
Just remember AVP:R is finding out what happened to the predator chestburster at the end of AVP.
That is true but I still think finding out what happened to the queen would have made a better film, than AVP: R. I don't really like AVP:R sorry.
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Here is what Jism Pole Comics had to say back then 6 weeks after the movie was released. It's a new comic book start up in New Orleans that is doing excellent. I get them in the mail. Yearly subscription.
"As the humans left, the Predators hovered high above watching everything. They talked among themselves on retrieving the Queen.
By having there planet send out a
Aqua-majuger. A space ship that is at home in the deepest parts of our ocean and a crew of extremely well trained Predator divers that will go out and get here.
The pressure from the oceans seem to have no effect on them.
So they do just that"
Thanks for the info I didn't know about that I really appreciate it.
that I agree with.
Surviving space doesn't mean you can survive the bottom of the frozen ocean. Space is a vacuum their exoskeleton could allow them to survive that. But the pressure of the bottom of the ocean is absolutely tremendous and her exoskeleton has already been breached several times reducing its integrity. Unlike a crab that evolved its shell for that pressure its safe to assume the xenomorphs never had to evolve for deep sea action. It's not like you can go DEEP sea diving in a space suite.
Their carapace can repair itself (when in contact with their blood),if given the right time...
kage1979 plus xenomorphs are pretty quick at evolving to fit their needs, if anything her exoskeleton evolved quickly to account for pressure.
+Lucky-Ebola-Chan they dont test suits in water pools other than to make sure they are sealed; the whole water pool thing is training for the astronaut.
+Predator117 nothing can evolve that fast other than a slow falling bacteria to save its own skin. not even squid which can choose to mutate their own DNA can change their DNA that fast. an besides thats not even how xenomorph evolution works as described via canon and etc.
Draconis The Wyvern ok you misunderstood my comment and also I worded it weird so it's my fault mostly. Pretty quickly does not mean instantly, but I believe that she could survive long enough to be able to evolve enough to save her if she needed it. But a big reason why we don't know if she's dead or not is because she'd survive anything except for extremes amounts of pressure and we don't even know how deep the water was. Water can be very misleading.
she slipped through a crack in the earth and wound up on skull island as godzilla's baby-momma.
lol
She sank to the bottom of the Arctic... Just saved you three and a half minutes
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She drowned
I was really hoping the sequel would have explained what happened to the alien queen. If an alien can survive the cold vacuum of space, then it is extremely possible for the alien queen to survive the Frozen depths of the ocean. Then again the queen could have just broken the chain after she sink to the bottom of the ocean and swam away. And we know from the alien franchise, that aliens are actually pretty good swimmers. And for all we know aliens don't need to breathe.
i think she just froze ,
@@Zarkon619 probably, but if they wanted to make knowing movie there's a perfect plot right there. Some fool accidentally releases the alien queen from the ice. And the chaos ensues.
Or she's been sending facehuggers at blue whales and we all fucked
That Alien Queen went into a form of stasis.
Keep in mind, today we've explored more of space than we have of the oceans. It would not surprise me if Wayland-Yutani were to have looked over the one bioweapon that was on Earth all this time while trying to find them in the outer regions of space. You know... hidden under their noses type of thing.
I think the queen is alive but frozen and is waiting to be un frozen by explores
Yeah, that was pretty much my thought too. What I'm really wondering is if the Queen is able to lay eggs again after detaching from her egg sac. If she can, she's an alien infestation waiting to happen. If she can't, she's just a lone, albeit dangerous xenomorph frozen underwater.
water doesn't freeze down that fare .. wen water drops to a certain degree it rises so she would be sitting their in a near frozen state waiting for explorers to find her lol but yes she would still be alive though I think she would go into hibernation mode most likely
The queen can regenerate her egg sac, but it's time consuming, painful and renders her helpless for an extended period, so they only disconnect the sac as a last resort or when the hive's numbers are deemed sufficient to protect her
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Here is what Jism Pole Comics had to say back then 6 weeks after the movie was released. It's a new comic book start up in New Orleans that is doing excellent. I get them in the mail. Yearly subscription.
"As the humans left, the Predators hovered high above watching everything. They talked among themselves on retrieving the Queen.
By having there planet send out a
Aqua-majuger. A space ship that is at home in the deepest parts of our ocean and a crew of extremely well trained Predator divers that will go out and get here.
The pressure from the oceans seem to have no effect on them.
So they do just that"
Marco Coelho
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Here is what Jism Pole Comics had to say back then 6 weeks after the movie was released. It's a new comic book start up in New Orleans that is doing excellent. I get them in the mail. Yearly subscription.
"As the humans left, the Predators hovered high above watching everything. They talked among themselves on retrieving the Queen.
By having there planet send out a
Aqua-majuger. A space ship that is at home in the deepest parts of our ocean and a crew of extremely well trained Predator divers that will go out and get here.
The pressure from the oceans seem to have no effect on them.
So they do just that"
As we have seen from the previous Alien films, the xenomorphs are susceptible to pressure: either localised such as a gunshot or blade strike, or overall such as an APC wheel or pressure changes due to rapid cooling. The pressure at the bottom of even a modest ocean is massively in excess of a solid APCing. Given that Bouvet Island has a steep coast (its land mass does not slope gently to the abyssal plain) the Queen is likely to have found herself swiftly in the crushing depths and in for a good crushing. We know low temperatures are not fatal to the xenomorphs - having seen them in deep space and thawed out from the freezer. It is worth noting that the deep sea is warmer than that which we have seen them endure and also does not freeze solid due to pressure, salinity and the effect of currents, so a lack of mobility due to ice formation is not a thing. Let's say that she can function under extreme pressures and the ocean depths are not cold enough to halt her metabolism (also that she could eventually free herself and isn't buoyant) she could, like the humble lobster, walk herself to shore. That throws up new challenges. Should she choose the correct direction, she would still have to walk 1000+ miles to get to accessible land. If not she could be roaming the ocean floor for years. All in all...I think she's dead.
Michael Purvis but she could just climb back up the cliff she fell down, she has claws. Although she would have to break the chain though.
Xenomorph 2016 I never really thought of that :-). That said, it would be a tough ascent, and I don't know if she's built for climbing. I still think the pressure would render her a crippled lump and see her off.
Michael Purvis her claws can act as hooks to penetrate the ice. Even if she can't climb, she can swim to a lower shoreline. Xenomorphs aren't built to survive crushing sea levels, but if she can break the chain, she can swim to the surface where she'll be out of harms way. They are expert swimmers...
If a xenomorph can survive the cold vacuum of space it can for sure survive the below zero temps it's just frozen, and I doubt it manage to beak the chain before it was frozen
Sir Turtle The Great difference is that you dont have to worry about pressure in space like water, so if the cold wont kill her, the water pressure will
Well yes I did foget about water pressure, but I haven't seen anything that says she can't or can withstand high water pressure. Well if you have let me know
But she is probably crushed flat
Sir Turtle The Great well i believe that since she could get hurt or pierced (combi stick and drone mouth) i feel its safe to assume the water pressure did its job
Yup
You brought up a really good point! I think the Queen Alien did survived
she floats in the undersea current to the atlantic where her tail scraps against an underwater vent realeasing an air pocket as well as heat thawing out her and jack from titanic and other titanic passengers and they have an epic battle in the wreckage of the titanic ALIEN VS TITANIC
@Central Intelligence Agency: That idea is so ridiculous that it just might work. I don't think there's enough money in the world for Leonardo DiCaprio to do Aliens Vs. Titanic, though, LOL.
no she gets caught in a crab pot in Alaska and brought to the surface and becomes ....wait for it.....THE DEADLIEST CATCH
.... That high
I nice follow up to AvP 2004 would be humans finding her (shortly after the movie or in the future) and unfreezing her and trying breed a new batch of xenomorphs that the Predators come to hunt and get out of the hands of humans.
like Michael bay
I don't think the cold or the submersion would kill a xenomorph, let alone the Queen, but the pressure most likely would. As far as I know, their exoskeletons are not that flexible. Maybe she will lay a face-hugger that will couple with a jellyfish. Imagine that. A xenomorph with dozens of tentacles.
I wrote a fanfiction which includes a theory on what happened to her. I wrote that Weyland-Yutani searched for and found her. They then used her for experimental research, searching for a way to weaponize the xenomorphic and bring it under control. check out my story here:
www.fanfiction.net/s/12236088/1/Upon-A-Pale-Horse
There's a part 1 and 2 to that as well. Happy reading 😁👍
I always thought the queen would survive no problem even in the depths of the Antarctic ocean. The xenomorph is supposed to be the perfect organism and the Antarctic sea floor has life so I don't think it's a stretch that the queen could not only not freeze or be crushed but could theoretically start a new colony. Would make a great film really, by the time we know there is a problem it's too late and there is a huge war for survival. Would've been better than avp2 anyway!
I'm just going off this...we see that xenomorph exoskeletons can be crushed. Ripley runs some over in the Marine's vehicle and they were crushed with ease. And one of those rides doesn't exert anywhere NEAR the amount of pressure the antarctic depths would. So it's really a no brainer if you think of it like that. Queenie's only hope would be to sever that chain and swim her ass off.
I never outstood this ending?
The Queen was pulled over the edge by the weight of the water in the tower!
Once this hit the water the Queen should have been able to pull herself up!
No, she was pulled over by the weight of the water tower alone, there was no water in it. It probably weighs like 2000 to 3000 pounds.
Trying to lift a solid weight in water is more difficult than on land.
If they ever do an AVP 3, I think having the queen survive and either free herself or be pulled up by some hapless humans would be the perfect way to kick off the next movie. If they never do another AVP, or decide to reboot it (which is probably the most likely option), I choose to believe she survived but was frozen. Aliens can survive space, and a bath of molten lead, I don't think the pressure would kill her.
I like to think she just grew a new egg sack and started anew at the bottom of the ocean.
The predators return every 100 years. They know exactly where the queen went down. They know she will survive. The Yautja will stage another hunt, revive her and initiate a new trio of youngbloods. in or around 2105 A.D.
The Alien queens fate really isnt all that ambiguous for the simple fact that her last scene shows her being dragged downward to the abyssal depths,I think everyone has a fair idea of what happens when you go to the abbyssalpalagic area of the ocean.Aliens are a tough as hell species,but not even they, could survive that kind of depth pressure.
Or the AVP films had no real respect for the original source material or characters and just saw a cheap cash grab right there begging to exploit fans of Alien and Predator.
+HybridNetwork everything including a human can for a limited time survive the vacuum of space. what kills you is either death by asphyxiation or the pressure. when you increase or decrease the pressure matter acts very differently. water boils in a zero pressure environment. in a way your blood boils and freezes at the same time. as the water in your blood boils heat is lost due to the water vapor evaporating and the cold. in effect your "boiling" while freezing.
everything has a crush depth; what a crush depth is is purely the amount of force that a body can handle before the pressure literally crushes it and causes it to crumble. nuclear attack submarines have a crush depth of 730 meters (estimated). an i really really doubt even with the exoskeleton being bullet resistant that the xenomorph can survive a depth lower than a nuclear attack submarine. subs have multiply hulls. one hull type is the light hull; its the hull you see. the other type of hull is the pressure hull. the pressure hull is the hull that actually withstands the pressure and pushes the light hull up. many subs like the typhoon class sub have multiply pressure hulls so that even if one hull is breached there are other barriers in the way.
The pressure difference between Earths surface and open space is 1 bar. The difference at the bottom of the ocean can be more than 1000 bars. So....
It is not the queen Xenomorph, it is the Empress Xenomorph!
The original's novelization says that the alien succumbs to the laws of physics after being blown out the airlock. A v P sloppily assumes that the alien would drown or stay trapped by a chain, which we saw them consciously melt in freeing the queen from her harness.
The Predators used advanced weapons to kill her. The movie makes a big deal about the Predators cleaning up after themselves. They just used the ships weaponry to kill her from space.
If the emptiness of space didn't kill her, a little water won't leave a mark; she's definitely alive.
It’s very interesting because the vacuum of space doesn’t have pressure. But water does have a weight and the further depth you go the more likely things are to be crushed.
She sank back down exactly into the Queen's Chamber in the temple (the same temple we saw blow up in a nuclear explosion) to be thawed out again in hundred years when the predators return.
Or, she probably got crushed like an eggshell after sinking deep enough into the ocean.
Writers can do whatever they want. She broke the 100 year old chain that was anchoring her and swam back to the surface. And there you have it: AVP3 The Queen's Long Swim to Civilization.
i think after she fell the acid from the battle broke the chain and thats why theres so much alien warriors in avp2
I think she was frozen because in alien 2 and resurrection the alien was under the water and didn't need to come out when it hissed under water explaining that they can breathe under water. I love alien vs predator so yeah plz read
It's debatable if Xenomorphs actually need to breathe or not, considering their body is based off of an extremely potent molecular acid, oxygen may not even be a factor for them, behaving much like some sort of super-advanced biomechanical car battery.
Well their is no concept of how deep that part of the ocean is we can go pretty damn far underwater people without being crushed and there are a lot of aquatic lifeforms that live where we can't explore and survive the pressure. But here is what I think happened... She Sank Into a Deep Plot hole never to be heard from again.
What happened?
It died. Like for real. She dead as fuck.
The pressures from sinking to the bottom of the ocean kinda does that.
That kind of pressure will literally shrink steel. Its thousands of pounds of foot pressure per inch all over the every surface on the queen's body. Subs dont shrink only because they are pressurized from the inside to keep them from imploding and there are only a few subs in the world that can reach the deepest parts of the ocean.
The alien queen might be strong, but she aint that strong.
Like I said, she's dead as FUCK
DemonGrenade274 ok ok, so yes, the pressure is high. But we never knew how deep it went, it literally could have ended in a couple more meters and just been dark. Also it's a queen, not a drone, it can withstand far more pressure than a drone or warrior or praetorian. Plus like I have said before xenomorphs literally can evolve and change to fit their need at the current time. She probably did some shit and is able to withstand the pressure. Killing one by natural cause is hard. You have to kill it with weapons, that's literally the only way. Otherwise they just keep changing and changing.
Unless the queen can force evolve in the span of a 1 or 2 hours under the absolute harshest conditions possible on earth, she's dead.
And you're right, she's not a drone, warrior. or praetorian. But if she is impervious to the pressures that she would experience at the bottom of the ocean, then she would also be impervious to any type of weaponry that relies on kinetic energy (i.e bullets or sharp weapons propelled at high speed, like a spear or blade used in the hand of a predator or an alien mouth attack). And we've seen plenty of instances in that very same movie that show that this isn't the case.
Her only hope is for her to break the chain that bringing her down. But again, within the same movie, it is show that she is unable to break the chains through regular means. She had to rely on her drones to injure her so her acid blood would weaken the chains so she can break them and get loose.
And she would also have to do it quickly as the temperatures of the water are already insanely cold at the surface level. They'll get exponentially colder with every meter she sinks and she was sinking fast. Within minutes she'll get frozen enough to impair her abilities to break the chain and she'll be doomed.
And after all that, if she manages to break free, she would have to do it fast enough to be able to swim to the surface before the ice freezes back over. And again, its Antarctica. The water will refreeze within a few minutes. If that happens, she'll freeze, sink, and die from the over pressure anyway.
There are just too many things going against the queen for her to have survived. She would have had better luck surviving if she just waited for the predator and surviving human to leave after the detonation of the temple. In fact, if she had done that, then she would have absolutely no trouble surviving. The cold air might be harsh but she's survived being frozen before. There's a chance that one of the weyland's competitors (who apparently also have thermal imaging satellites over the region according to the movie) would go on a similar expedition to the area and find the queen frozen in the ice.
I think if they wanted a sequel that involved the queen, then thats what would have needed to happen. But what we got ensures that the queen is completely, irreversibly, dead.
Actually, I think there is a way to get a sequel using an alien queen now that I think about it. It just wont be the same queen.
The general accepted life cycle of a hive is that in if there is no queen present, a drone will morph into a praetorian which will then morph into a queen right?
Well, say that the grid alien managed to survive the explosion and got buried in the Ice. Grid later gets found by a weyland competitor like I mentioned in my previous comment. Since her queen is dead, wouldn't grid molt into another queen?
There we have it. Thats how a sequel could happen with another queen on earth. Not all the aliens died in the explosion. In the absence of a queen, and when unfrozen, they'll try to morph into another upon discovery.
Problem solved.
Baker Mayweather nothing down there can eat her acid for blood remember but she's definitely dead. If the deepest parts of the ocean can crush most submarines like tin cans a xenomorph Queen doesn't stand a chance especially one that has several Cuts in pieces into her body.
DemonGrenade274 just like half life 3 lol
Some youngblood predators return to earth every 100 years to hunt at the pyramid locations. When the explorers got to the pyramid, the queen was raised up from a holding cell where she was kept frozen. That means the queen is able to remain alive in suspended animation for an extended period of time (100+ years). If the water pressure didn't kill her when she fell into the ocean, she'd probably just go back into suspended animation until someone recovered her, or the chain broke and she was able to resurface.
1. She wasn't frozen in ice. She was covered in ice, appears she was removed from liquid nitrogen, and is moving while still covered in ice and so below freezing.
2. Fish don't freeze in the ocean. Salt water can get colder than 0C before freezing, but water ice floats. Water with anything dissolved in it must go below 0C to freeze.
3. She won't get "crushed flat". Water pressure isn't a press. It presses equally all around. What will happen, is chemical reactions, especially complex shape-based processes like amino acids and proteins, will act differently under great pressure. Living things around hydrothermal vents and in the deep ocean have somewhat different varieties of these that won't work correctly at shallower depths.
Fish have chemicals in their blood to prevent freezing. It would help if people knew that.
Aliens got crushed under heavy machinery and tank treads. The pressure at such great depths underwater will crush with greater force than what has been shown to crush aliens in the movies.
Xenomorphs can adapt many things than we humans ever were, especially to this scared ancient Xenomorph Queen. I believe she still lives under everybody's noses.
I always thought that the sequel to AVP would been something like a submarine accidentally discovers her and brings her back to the surface and she thaws out again and starts a new hive, and then I saw the trailer to AVP-R and I was like "Ok guess that's not happening"
I liked avp
So did I
It would be possible for survival if you take into account for other Aliens, Predator, and AvP media in which the Xenomorph is depicted in various tasks such as walking along the outside of a ship in space (key point there), adapting/observing (Aliens Resurrection), or having a hibernation mode/suspended animation to save on energy until food arrives or to "travel" ( take that as you will) (certain amphibians/animals hibernate)
Its simple, if the queen did not sink too low for the pressure to become too much, then likelihood is that she is probably frozen and could be thawed out to wreak havoc. There are so many other options in regards to stories for the Alien/predator franchises that I really hope they don't dig this one up, or at least not for a while.
Will there be alien vs predator 3
Merlin Boshoff Highly unlikely.
Merlin Boshoff It won't happen while Ridley Scott is running everything about Alien right now and they just rebooted the predator franchise.
:(
Hope not
Merlin Boshoff there was supposed to be another one but they never made it
1:35 You never see it survive in space. You see it moving around for a few seconds but not survive indefinitely. And maybe it doesn't need oxygen, but it's going to need something.
I think the queen was frozen at the bottom of the lake until an unlucky expedition finds the queen and thaws her out
imagine if the corporation found this queen in the Antarctic and just thought to themselves we could have had this thing decades ago
I think this pretty much opens the possibility of an AVP 3 movie since Wolf was only able to eliminate the Xenomorph contamination from the Yautja ship, but not this Queen. For all we know, maybe she crawled all across the bottom of the sea until she reaches land again.
Well, she got dragged off a cliff edge - so the water likely wouldn't have been crush depth. Let's not forget as well that in Alien Resurrection, we can see that Xenomorphs can swim very well - and that the facehuggers can not only survive in inhospitable atmospheres, but keep hosts alive in environments in which the host would die. See the original Alien for the best example of that - the air of LV426 in the original Alien is completely unbreathable and well below zero - yet the facehugger is able to survive that atmosphere and provide oxygen for Kane to survive a long trip back to the Nostromo.
Calling she's dead. Her body had been stabbed several times. She died due to the insane pressure. Crushed by the weight of all the water pressure.
I have a hard time believing some rusty iron chains would keep a xenomorph queen anchored for long. As xenomoprhs adapt well in water, she probably escaped, swam to somwhere suitable and is laying eggs in some dark corner.
As for the queen that was spaced, she would have lasted for awhile, but in the vacuum of space the creatures high preassure blood/hydraulics system would eventually come apart having adapted to a preassurized atmosphere.
If a human can last 90 seconds in the vacuum, the queen xenomorph probably lasted 90 minutes before being 'vacuumed out'. I would say that's probably on par.
I really want AVP 3 made!
She set up an underwater hive, face huggers impregnated sea creatures and then a whole new version of sea faring Xenos are born.
I saw this movie in theater. Right after the movie I told my friends "the queens not dead, watch there is going to be a part 2." Thinking that was going to be the direction it would go... F#ck that predalien
Man, this channel is rad. I love it how you keep the Alien universe alive and interesting
Even if she did survive she would be able to go anywhere and the eggs couldn't survive either
The really important question is where's the next Alien versus Predator movie?
the difference in pressure between sea level atmosphere and the bottom of the ocean is actually far greater than the difference in pressure between sea level atmosphere and vacuum.
space shuttles can survive the vacuum of space but they'd be crushed in the Mariana trench.
i think the queen died. but the queen surviving would be an interesting way to set up a xenomorph invasion on Earth
THE WATER PRESSURE CRUSHED HER LIKE AN EMPTY BEER CAN.
Time to drop some facts. Xenomorphs aren't affected by temperatures unless it's a drastic and quick change like going from extremely hot to extremely cold and vice versa. Saying as the temperature was roughly the same in and out of the water she didn't die from that. Now on to the next possible factor, air. Well it is true xenomorphs don't need air to live and even if they did they are known to be able to mutate at will just to survive so no go on air. Next one pressure. Well let's see just a flat out no. Hard pressure like a hydraulic press would do it but just plain water pressure will not crush a xenomorphs hide. And finally battle scars, like he said this was a much larger queen and xenos heal pretty well too so I don't think that would kill her. So my opinion based off the facts are that she's not dead but either frozen, struggling against the chain, or already free and attempting to start a new hive. Now those are three conclusions I've come to. Which one is true, I don't fucking know.
ur full of it, that pressure can crush a steel submarine
I always wondered what happened to the queen at the end of the alien movie...it's hard to say what happened though given all the theories and such but the movie itself never had a secret ending to explain it more so of course it left is wondering did she die or survived by cutting herself lose at the moment before she hit the bottom and swam away elsewhere good pointers to comment on still im kinda hoping they'll come out with a new or another alien explaining from there what really happened but one can only hope
The Queen is "D-E-A-D" if the alien in Aliens can be crushed by simply being run over by an APC that weights 15,000 pounds (overall) then the Queen is going to DEFINITELY be crushed by the pressure of anywhere between 6000-10,000 pounds PER SQUARE INCH alone (not overall like the APC). Even If we take into account that the queen's exoskeleton is a bit stronger than a regular Xeno, she's done.
I can see you point on the Xenos being able to survive x amount of time in the vacuum of space, that said, while the ocean depth are cold like space with no breathable air/oxygen, there is one BIG difference between the two and that's the pressure. If memory servers, in space there is next to no pressure, but the bottom of the ocean the is a lot of it. Hypothetically, the deepest part of the Antarctic Ocean is about 7,236 m, or 23,740 ft, so the pressure at that depth, in psi, is about 10,564. Now I admit I could be wrong, I don't know if it's ever been said how much pressure the Xenos can survive in, but it's definitely something to keep in mind.
Even though they can survive in these climates, a xenomorph tht didn't pop out of a creature adapted to this environment will most likely not enjoy the time in those climates. Extreme heat, extreme cold, xenos try to find warm, moist areas, but when attacked by fire and liquid nitrogen they recoil and retreat. I imagine that Queen was PISSED when she went into that arctic water.
In the sunken city our queen sleeps, until the day when she awaken and the cycle begins a new.
Excluding the fact that the setting of AvP is not the right one, Requiem, if it was really a sequel, would start in the future when a group of explorers find an iceberg with the queen inside. The queen would somehow free herself from her cold prison and start a new hive with a face hugger impregnating a predator (of course cutting out of the first film the fact that scar got impregnated) and then the predalien would be like a pretorian, when the queen dies at the end of this film, the predalien still alive would take her place, then maybe something like Requiem would happen.
It's safe to say we will never know what happened to this Queen
I'm in! Aliens versus Predator 2! The predators bring her up again, she's huge so she must have been thru a few hunts!
My thoughts? The Queen Freezes. Lex goes back and tells WY what happened. A mission involving US Marines, SEALS, DELTA or a world "Combo" of spec-ops are sent to protect the WY team that investigates the pyramid and everything else. Finds all the bodies that remain. A sub is sent down to either confirm the Queens' "Death" or retrieve her. Of course it goes wrong (as ALL WY encounters with the Alien does) and all besides one or two of the Security team survives.
I say, sunk too fast and the pressure made her explode. But if the movies want her alive, the predators could have retrieved the once again frozen queen to take her to another planet.
Legend has it she is still trying to climb her way up.
She sunk to the bottom, though it would be assumed that since the water she was in hadn't frozen, she most likely wouldn't have been frozen either. She probably got free and swam off someplace to rebuild her nest.
There were many piramids when predators ruled the earth. So in movie only one pyramid is preserved. But there might be more pyramids with more weapons for predators ,all of which are waiting for to be explored by people on Antarctica. So there may be more queens frozen. They should make another movie with this concept going on.
I always thought the same in regards to the queen only being temporarily immobilized by the water tank at the end. Good vid.
One thing you got to remember is in (AVP R 2007) the predalien was evolving into a queen especially when she was able to impregnate women or other humans with her mandibles and tongue puncher thing and not only that in my opinion i think the predalien was actually a queen to begin with since when a xenomorph queen dies or is just not present a new xenomorph or in this case the abomination must evolve into a queen and i believe thats what happened in this case and another supporting theory on this is the predalien queen in avp r spawned a whole army of xenomorph warriors and if you listen in a few of the scenes in avp r you can even hear the predalien queen doing the breathing noise a normal xenomorph queen does when laying the ovamorph eggs so yes there's a possibility of the antarctic queen being alive but she wasn't present during the events of avpr so that's why in conclusion I believe technically predalien was the last surviving xenomorph after the events in Antarctica and so i believe it molted into a queen at the beginning of the movie 👌👍
This movie had awesome fights between the creatures!!
The assumption that they can survive the vacuum of space is misleading. We saw the xenomorph being jettisoned from the Narcissus in Alien and the Sulaco in Aliens. We saw it wriggling for a couple of minutes but actually we never really saw it living in the vacuum. Even Dark Horse took liberties with that when they depicted a living xenomorph crashing through the canopy of a ship in space and killing it's crew. I think the survival of a xenomorph in vacuum is just folklore, to stress the common idea of the toughness of the creature. I think the Queen was simply crushed by the immense pressure in the bottom of the ocean.
The queen was frozen and in chains in the beginning only to be revived by sufficient heat. At the end she is again in chains plunging to the frozen depths; only needing sufficient heat to be revived. Which will happen, like in the beginning; when she's found.
She broke free once she hit the bottom for sure, but probably froze after
Water pressure could be what ended her if she did die. But it's pretty hard to kill these things in Vacuum environments
She came back to the surface, but saw Bill Cosby there, she said it's safer to be at the bottom and retreated back.
if she can survive the pressures of the ocean floor and happens to land near a methane vent and isn't frozen, maybe she lays a few eggs and the face hugger grasps an ocean floor dweller, creating an ocean based xenomorph.
I have often wondered about this myself .
The cold wouldn't kill her. Unless the the pressure crushed her to death. she is laying on the bottom frozen.
Alien Queen has to be dead, it can't live under frozen ice for very long I suppose. It can be preserved but would be dead like most living things which go under frozen ice for long periods of time! But yet again the Xeno queen in Aliens survived the power suit crushing it's throat so it's possible but really unlikely it survived.
I do believe the Queen Xenomorph died, and can't survive the deepest of the ocean, and most likely frozen to death. In fact, the Predalien who spawned from Scar Predator, was indeed a Praetorian/Royal Guard, giving time for him established new hive in Gunnison, he would have becomes new queen, by cocooned and shed its yautja physical form, to revealed the new queen.
The men in black came to pick her up
Hahahahahaaha. Good one
I Think the predators can recapture the Queen if they want, or maybe someday some archeologist finds the Queen frozen in ice
There's no doubt that she could survive the temperature. But what about the pressure from the water itself? Depending on how deep she sank, the pressure itself could have crushed her.
The most annoying thing in the Hollywood world, monsters that don't die: like your queen, Freddy, Jason, Michael, Terminator, etc.
I think she survived. Because if Captain America could survive for almost 70 years, I sure the queen could survive for going on 15 years now.
Why do you think she would freeze? The water down there doesn´t freeze. Even some fish live there and don´t freeze. It depends entirely on her biology (more the chemistry i guess) at which temperature she would freeze.
So i think its entirely possible that she is still kicking and screeming down there... or even nibbeling on that chain...
Never forget the Nr. 1 rule for horror movies: If it wasn´t dead when you last saw it, its not dead at all!
She is probably not dead rather trapped, waiting for the next opportunity to rize. After all she is a zenomorph it is going to take a lot more than a little water to stop her. Zenomorphs will always find a way...
considering what ive seen of aliens she definitely survived. maybe if theres ever a 3rd movie they can have her show up again
Well let's assume the Queen managed to escape from the chains, would she be able to swim away or does her size prevent her from swimming effectively like her smaller warriors?
I think it's " GAME OVER MAN!" if she survived! Think about it! That would be a great movie! The queen survives and makes it to the surface and starts breeding and then the W/Y corporations must fast track reverse engineering the pred. Tech. to quell the infestation. Which leads to the ability to make the jump into space travel!
I think that she survived and is in a block of ice Down Below in the Deep depths of the Arctic Ocean just waiting and to be found by someone who's foolish enough to release her.
it depends on how deep the water is because the deeper the water the more pressure so first we have to find out how much pressure they can withstand
I hate when people take the part about the evolution of the xenomorphs out of context when they say the xenomorphs have evolved to become the perfect killing machines ,OVER TIME not instantly millions of years there is no way the queen survived underwater with the pressure since scar easily penetrated her exoskeleton .
If she survived I highly doubt that particular alien queen will ever make an appearance on screen again. I don't think she broke free from the chains, she just sunk to the bottom. And even given their resilience to the vacuum of space, that environment would be entirely too hostile even for the queen and she would have eventually succumbed to the harsh conditions and died imo.
(xenomorphs are not immortal lol)
Unless, she managed to get rid of the chain and got out of the ocean
and had the strength to survive after the encounter then she will live
I'm certain that she was put there by the predators for thousands of years
and was kept frozen when not needed.
If she is ever found frozen under the ocean bed, then is likely that she would brought in to be experimented
on to create the Alien King
Mh... I'd like that she survived and evolved in a new kind of xeno-abyssal creature.
Nice theory.
After reading so much Alien comics and working with marine life, I'm sure she is alive. Here are reasons why:
- if she can survive in space, she probably doesn't have any gasses which would collapse in a depth and killed her
- when she hit the bottom of the ocean (which was not so deep due to island near by it) she can get easily rid of the chain - in movies we also saw that they use their own blood to do so, or she can just wait that the salt water does its work (rust and break) - it's just a matter of time. Anyway she can still use hibernation mode till better days.
Fun fact - she lies an eggs on the bottom, big fish come near by, ... baaaam Blade Runner 2049
Fun fact - Predators didn't forget about her, let the hunt in a deep water begin ;)
If it survived the vacuum of space,maybe. The immense pressure at the bottom of the sea she would have been crushed flat like a beer can at a frat party.