Sifu Nima, that ringtone is nostalgia, smartphone would not be created if that phone didn't exist. 🤣 Anyway, that internal energy is great. 💪 Thanks for the video
Here is a thought, I always see videos of people asking him if he does something different when force is applied to him. If we are diligent we spend literally hours on the forms trying to find the most efficient way to perform the movements, using no force to cultivate this relaxed power in the moves. If we follow this and find the most efficient way through relaxation etc, why would we change it just because somebody applies force to us? Or why would we ever change it at all? 🤔🤔🤔
That's exactly right. Much easier said than done to be able to not change the same state as we have in the form without incoming pressure, but that is the goal and in fact is the pinnacle of this art.
The trick of using force here is to use circular force to neutralize the straight force applied to the surface, due to the small circular motion, the observers do not feel and think that the performer is using real counterforce with them without realizing they had deflected their force. The game should be properly understood for its use and not as something mystical.
Yes absolutely agree, its should never be something mystical as that will make it hard to attain for the student. Yes, if the bio-mechanics are used properly (correct usage of the joints and body) then all forces created in Wing Chun will be circular. That is the simple in concept yet difficult to apply reality of CST Wing Chun. And then, if the bio-mechanics can be powered by the Center of Mass which is what CST is doing in this video, it makes it that much more efficient, powerful and hard to resist.
If you understand tai chi chuan (practice long enough to feel your body), these are very simple to do. Wing Chun has very good hand-to-hand combat skills, but the principles of force and internal movement in the tai chi chuan will be clearer and more systematic.
@@hungdang6447 yes I'm sure there are a lot of similarities. Having said that so far all the Tai Chi ppl I have touched hands with have not been able to do this. The first thing I do when touching hands with another Kung Fu person is stand in front of then and apply resistance to their upper arm (at the biceps) with my palm and ask them to move their arm forward while I try and stop them. Thus far I haven't come across a person that can do that. one of the most famous (internet wise) Tai Chi ppl I did this said to me that in Tai Chi they don't resist force directly and head-on. I tried to explain to him that if one can use the shoulder girdle correctly it's not a head on resistance of force since the joint is round and therefore would naturally create a round circular force. He just nodded but I don't think he got the simplicity. Then he started talking about Qi, but he had lost my attention since he wasn't able to perform the basic biomechanical test I had set which was not in a set up movement or position. Having said that I'm very open to always meeting up with and learning from the exchanges with other ppl and just because the few Tai Chi masters I have touched hands with were not able to do it doesn't mean I have labeled that art according to my experience with them. And I know there are many things they could probably do that I can't, but my main focus in the application of force is being able to mobilize the limbs/body against direct oncoming force without the need to yield or go around the force as I see that to be the most efficient way to producing and handling force
@@MindfulWingChun The Shaolin Temple has a very deep and complete sentence about martial arts, with the main idea: "The coming hand is not equal to the coming body, the coming body is not equal to the footwork coming, the footwork coming is not equal to the coming mind". How to apply it is up to the individual, the same goes for tai chi .... Thank you for your reply !
I am fascinated to learn this way of generating force, did Master Chu Shong Tin test this method with other Martial Arts practitioner? In terms of testing different engine of how to generate force.
Back in those days they had regular sparring sessions and challenge fights not only with other forms of Kung Fu but other stules like boxing and mui thai and some Japanese arts that were in HK
yes of course by doing the forms in the correct way. Are you on the online school? If not, I suggest you get on there as there are step by step instructions on how to develop this. www.mindfulwingchun.online 👍
@@MindfulWingChun dk yoo seemed a little too scared of getting trapped and hit. He said in an interview that his back was injured. He looked that way when fighting though.
What people call Chi or CST calls Nim Lik is something separate to mass. Of course there is no way to actually make more mass. If someone is 70kgs they can't weigh more than that by using chi. But what they can do is accelerate more, use multidirectional forces, make the point of contact a fulcrum, attacke the weakest part of the opponents structure etc. to be able to get more power/effect. All of the above is not taking into account any use of 'Chi'
Its not the way he described it Trisha, and certainly not the words he used. He would simply say that he is connecting the body and mobilizing his mass by turning his center of mass.
@@MindfulWingChun it pretty hard to understand if no touching Sifu CST's hands. Taigong and seng must be the foundation of this internal technique, is that true?
lol nima there like a headless chicken classic dude i really wanna fight you. master ting next level how fortunate to have been with a man who trained with yip man san. i wonder what his skill was...
@@MindfulWingChun i love CST wing Chun and Kenneth Chung wing chun. You should meet him, you guys are onto structural power and the like though the methodology may differ.
@@tebobollen5858 actually I met Kenneth and touched hands with him at Chu Shong Tin's house in 2007 when he visited. At the time it felt very different to what we were doing and yes was very good structure from what I remember.
Thank you so much for the valuable video and translation 🙏🙏
my pleasure. Glad you liked it 🙏🏼
Sifu Nima, that ringtone is nostalgia, smartphone would not be created if that phone didn't exist. 🤣
Anyway, that internal energy is great. 💪 Thanks for the video
🤣🤣
Ah yes,Sigung the Clark Kent of 功夫 :)
Haha, well played :)
Here is a thought, I always see videos of people asking him if he does something different when force is applied to him.
If we are diligent we spend literally hours on the forms trying to find the most efficient way to perform the movements, using no force to cultivate this relaxed power in the moves. If we follow this and find the most efficient way through relaxation etc, why would we change it just because somebody applies force to us? Or why would we ever change it at all?
🤔🤔🤔
That's exactly right. Much easier said than done to be able to not change the same state as we have in the form without incoming pressure, but that is the goal and in fact is the pinnacle of this art.
The trick of using force here is to use circular force to neutralize the straight force applied to the surface, due to the small circular motion, the observers do not feel and think that the performer is using real counterforce with them without realizing they had deflected their force. The game should be properly understood for its use and not as something mystical.
Yes absolutely agree, its should never be something mystical as that will make it hard to attain for the student. Yes, if the bio-mechanics are used properly (correct usage of the joints and body) then all forces created in Wing Chun will be circular. That is the simple in concept yet difficult to apply reality of CST Wing Chun. And then, if the bio-mechanics can be powered by the Center of Mass which is what CST is doing in this video, it makes it that much more efficient, powerful and hard to resist.
If you understand tai chi chuan (practice long enough to feel your body), these are very simple to do. Wing Chun has very good hand-to-hand combat skills, but the principles of force and internal movement in the tai chi chuan will be clearer and more systematic.
@@hungdang6447 yes I'm sure there are a lot of similarities.
Having said that so far all the Tai Chi ppl I have touched hands with have not been able to do this.
The first thing I do when touching hands with another Kung Fu person is stand in front of then and apply resistance to their upper arm (at the biceps) with my palm and ask them to move their arm forward while I try and stop them. Thus far I haven't come across a person that can do that. one of the most famous (internet wise) Tai Chi ppl I did this said to me that in Tai Chi they don't resist force directly and head-on. I tried to explain to him that if one can use the shoulder girdle correctly it's not a head on resistance of force since the joint is round and therefore would naturally create a round circular force. He just nodded but I don't think he got the simplicity. Then he started talking about Qi, but he had lost my attention since he wasn't able to perform the basic biomechanical test I had set which was not in a set up movement or position.
Having said that I'm very open to always meeting up with and learning from the exchanges with other ppl and just because the few Tai Chi masters I have touched hands with were not able to do it doesn't mean I have labeled that art according to my experience with them. And I know there are many things they could probably do that I can't, but my main focus in the application of force is being able to mobilize the limbs/body against direct oncoming force without the need to yield or go around the force as I see that to be the most efficient way to producing and handling force
@@MindfulWingChun The Shaolin Temple has a very deep and complete sentence about martial arts, with the main idea: "The coming hand is not equal to the coming body, the coming body is not equal to the footwork coming, the footwork coming is not equal to the coming mind". How to apply it is up to the individual, the same goes for tai chi .... Thank you for your reply !
I am fascinated to learn this way of generating force, did Master Chu Shong Tin test this method with other Martial Arts practitioner? In terms of testing different engine of how to generate force.
Back in those days they had regular sparring sessions and challenge fights not only with other forms of Kung Fu but other stules like boxing and mui thai and some Japanese arts that were in HK
I wonder if internal energy can be used for arm wrestling? Maybe its a good way to test it out for myself
It can, and you should test it out. CST was smashing us younger fellas in arm wrestle. It was super embarrassing to say the least 😅😅
Is there any way to develop this kind of power with solo training?
yes of course by doing the forms in the correct way. Are you on the online school? If not, I suggest you get on there as there are step by step instructions on how to develop this. www.mindfulwingchun.online
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Sifu nima king can you make a video on the fight between dk yoo and that ufc fighter. The fight looked rigged and kinda odd.
Hey man, yeah my guess is there was probably stated in the contract that stopped Bradly from going all out.
@@MindfulWingChun dk yoo seemed a little too scared of getting trapped and hit. He said in an interview that his back was injured. He looked that way when fighting though.
Like Pun said "you ain't even in mi class'a". Maybach benz back seat tv plasma.
Very insightful indeed
More chi, more mass?
What people call Chi or CST calls Nim Lik is something separate to mass. Of course there is no way to actually make more mass. If someone is 70kgs they can't weigh more than that by using chi. But what they can do is accelerate more, use multidirectional forces, make the point of contact a fulcrum, attacke the weakest part of the opponents structure etc. to be able to get more power/effect. All of the above is not taking into account any use of 'Chi'
Is it a sink the qi when do placing?
Its not the way he described it Trisha, and certainly not the words he used. He would simply say that he is connecting the body and mobilizing his mass by turning his center of mass.
@@MindfulWingChun it pretty hard to understand if no touching Sifu CST's hands. Taigong and seng must be the foundation of this internal technique, is that true?
lol nima there like a headless chicken classic dude i really wanna fight you.
master ting next level how fortunate to have been with a man who trained with yip man san. i wonder what his skill was...
Very fortunate indeed.
And sure thing on the friendly fight. Hit me up when you're in Hong Kong next
@@MindfulWingChun excellent it must have been magical indeed.
dude why would i fight a wing chun a master lol
Just like I showed him
CST is one of best students.
😂
good one 😕
@@MindfulWingChun i love CST wing Chun and Kenneth Chung wing chun. You should meet him, you guys are onto structural power and the like though the methodology may differ.
@@tebobollen5858 actually I met Kenneth and touched hands with him at Chu Shong Tin's house in 2007 when he visited. At the time it felt very different to what we were doing and yes was very good structure from what I remember.