Patreon CEO Gives BAD ADVICE
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- Опубликовано: 31 авг 2022
- Every few months I feel like I hit a limit - like I’m accumulating unending change, ongoing projects, and disarray, and I’m giving it everything I have but barely keeping up. After talking with hundreds (thousands?) of creators over the years, I’ve learned that I’m not alone in that feeling - it’s quite common for creative people to have a sense that life is an onslaught of chaos and obligation. So I wanted to put together a talk to explain what I do about that feeling - and how I get to the other side.
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I just used you as you used Gary Vee :) Thanks for being humble, confident, an exhibitionist, a hard worker, an amazing musician but most of all for trying so hard to be honest. You have been consistently kicking ass for so many years! Keep it up (if it suits you...)
Let conservatives use the platform without censorship too. Thatd be nice
I was going to say, he’s my Gary Vee too haha
Your pit stains when public speaking make me feel better about myself, Jack. This is awesome. I enjoyed all of it :)
I can do better than that: I have shit stains in my underwear. So top that, JACK!!!
The bell curve for human attributes is brilliant. I've had this on my mind a lot recently -- the changes that will make one person's life vastly better is the exact opposite of what the next person needs. When unhelpful, universal life advice ranges from irrelevant to actively harmful. It helps both the speaker and listener to be aware of this dynamic so they can compensate or qualify advice.
All I knew about Jack Conte is that he is part of Scary Pockets, one of two band leaders of Pomplamoose and an awesome musician. I am absolutely floored he also started Patreon!
And Scary Pockets or Pomplamoose gave you the idea that he's an "awesome musician"? That's not even low standards, it's reverse standards!
I really really love your storytelling style, humbleness, realness and how your heart showed through your videos!
Thank you for being an amazing creator, artist, and entrepreneur.. every video I get new insights and feel expansion in my soul🙏
This talk is applicable to so many fields! I’m a college professor and I get ideas from Jack about how to tackle issues at the department, how to organize and get inspired for my research, and how to be a better teacher. Gracias ❤️
Jack, you are my favorite inspirational speaker, hands down. I also hate advice, especially in the form of "everyone should do this one thing," with a side of "if you're not doing it, you'll never succeed!"
Man you are awesome! Just wanted to say that you are a real inspiration for me. I have a band, i’m finishing film school and i cofounded a tech startup. So the topics that you speak helps me so much on all of those fronts. Thanks for all the knowledge!!
To all the Creators & Artists out there --- THANK YOU!!!!! from an Old White Lady - consumer/audience member. My hope & fear as an OWL is that I will die while there is still stuff to consume. Thank you so much for filling my days. I am never bored.
The customized design-problem solving I think is totally brilliant. I gotta screen capture that list of questions, and tailor them a bit. That's exactly how my brain works too. I especially loved you talking about how writing helps you escape circular thought patterns. I'm going to explore that even more than I already was. Thank you so much for this. Helpful for me as a musician, a parent, and as a human in general.
I love the self-introspection! Very helpful to see your process.
I haven't finished seeing that video yet and it is already the most inspirational one I have seen in years, I really thank you for that, I was really down, feeling stuck in my musicianship path but it gives me perspective, thanks again, I mean F*** you Jack !
Thank you so much for sharing and spreading your energy!
One of the most inspiring talks I’ve ever heard! Thank you Jack!
The way you look authentic (even on stage) was making me feel good to "be true to myself". AWESOME talk!
Many of us are glad you didn't give up on Patreon. You have given so many creators the freedom to live with less worry.
and be a left wing censoring bigot too, right?
Great thought process. Thanks for revealing the hard creative work that goes on behind the scenes.
A rare video keeping me focused for 35 minutes. Amazing speech! And I loved the creator lounge @ Cheer up charlies sponsored by Patreon this Sxsw. Wish i saw this speech live.
Brilliant video. @casey brought me here, and I am so glad. What an inspiration you are. Keep leading! Cheers
One of the best videos I have seen on RUclips !!! and btw Jack... I use you as my inspiration machine... (along with Casey and GaryVee). Thank you for this video.... kind of validated all of the things that I've been figuring out and feeling lately.
Your vibe is the best.
The best bad advice I've heard.
just saw that you are the creator of patreon from a sailing la vagabonde video, and i remembered your name (and i think a few assembly performances) from way back in the day at st. mark's. small world! thanks for creating something that has changed a lot of people's lives for the better!
I haven't even watched yet, but I've been waiting for this upload for a long time😊
Awesome keynote. Thanks bro!
Wow, great talk! I teared up a bit towards the end.
I love your content Jack. It's really valuable to me and funny ;-) Stay like you are, a great human being.
Thanks, your company has literally changed my life. I've been able to go to Japan, a lifelong dream. Thanks
Damn, this is wonderful! Thanks for Patreon and all the other things you do!
That was awesome! Fu** you Jack for being so honest to yourself and to others. This Video pushes me forward to my dreams 🚀
I shared this video to a lot of my folks saying „You really need to watch this - F*CK YOU, BEN (you’ll understand after watching the video)“ - I so much enjoyed watching this video! Thank you so much. I appreciate you for what you do! Before my next workshop or during my next inspiration crisis - I‘m gonna watch this as inspiration trigger ;)
🙏What an absolutely lovely talk. There’s a point in 40 weeks about how you value anything higher when it’s been hard to get to. A Big Mac has pretty low value, where a home cooked meal has much a higher value. To yourself of course. 40 weeks call it friction. The higher friction the higher value and enjoyment…
Personally, as a patron of several artists on Patreon, I still prefer the per-"thing" model. But I will concede that since many of the artists prefer the per-month schedule, it's a good option to have for them. I just hope you never get rid of the original option! That does still work best for many artists, for exactly the reasons you thought… and more.
Great video! Advice, non-advice, everything. I actually think the part about figuring out what gets me into an inspired mood, and then intentionally replicating that, will help a lot.
As for the rest, I don't think any of your "advice" was bad, and much of the other stuff is still good and relevant to me. But taking it all as those individual data points, and knowing it won't all be the right advice for myself , is, itself, great advice. ("Fuck you, Jack!") I think I'm fairly good at filtering out what's good for me and what isn't so relevant or applicable; but either way, I just like hearing about others' experiences, because it does give me data points to construct a better image of what I guess could be called "The Whole". So thank you for that; it's _all_ interesting and helpful, whether it's directly useful in my own situation or not.
it's totally a great idea, per thing. I'd even love a "tip jar", pick a thing, and drop money, no strings attached. per month is such a cold old model, I have no idea why anyone would want to add more suscription after energie, internet, taxes, yada yada. but hey it's me, glad it works. Glad if "per thing" or "tip jar" can exist too.
@@Journeymanlive Yeah, a tip jar would be cool… though, admittedly, for the ones I'm already supporting in a recurring commitment, I doubt I'd use it much. Maybe for others, though, that I don't support in the recurring model. And maybe even my regular ones now and then, like for the ones that I wish I could afford to give more regularly, but at least I could give them an extra bonus every once in awhile.
@@Dan-Black yes flexibility, dig it? drop something. I'm surprised about the monthy model being so prevalent, I guess we may now live in a world of routine, Netflix, and all things in boxes, pre-paid, link to you account. But there is no way I get some indie, traveller, crazy people to monthly subs. I love busking, and originally Patreon was kinda of that, digitally, like 2$ per song. GREAT original idea from Jack. Anyway the more ways to feed artists we like, the better.
thanks for this!
That. Was. Awesome. Thank you Jack. (by the way I met Nataly in England earlier this year! Star struck 🤩)
I always come back to this video to stop myself from quitting
Jack your videos inspire me like Gary Vee does you. Thanks for uploading, truly.
Jack, I still remember learning that you're the creator of Patreon. I was a fan of your music at the time (still am). Love your work, hope to hear something from you in the future. Best of luck!
Jack, this talk is amazing! Same as you with GaryV, I wanna hear more like this every morning! F* y0u, Jack. 🤩
Love you, Jack xxx
This is really… interesting. I can’t think of a better way to describe it. I’ve had a lot of these notions and theories about many of your points but never as a whole (like you’ve presented). Awkwardly emotional moment for me as I write this, but thank you for putting this together… I think this video will really help me help so many more people by adding clarity to what it knew was out there.
Thank you
….FU Jack 🥂
I imagine Gary Vee would be very proud of your SUBTRACTION sequence. And, honored that he inspires you. You inspire me. Thank you Jack!
I totally did not realize that Jack created Patreon! I've been a Pomplemoose follower for like 10 years! Love you guys!
If you're still the CEO, can you explain why Patreon is essentially a platform that supports MAPs? There are some creators who have been kicked off for non hateful "hate speech" that wasn't actual hate speech, nor did it even take place on the Patreon platform, and yet there are creators still on there who are downright pedos and creeps. Make it make sense, Jack. Is this one of those custom design problems you can solve?
Jack . SInce the day you got that Kia, TO this day the way you have created that aera module of growth reinforces me to belive you are awesome.
28:11 gave me chills...
holy balls Jack, there is so much to say but ill leave you with a massive gratitute that won't be enough to encapsulate the importance of this talk. Thank you!
what a video / talk wow. 👏👏👏
Jack I am only writing this because I think you will see it. I have drank your cool aid I believe in the second renaissance and I am leaving college next year with the goal of being a creator. You are allowing me to believe that there is a world out there that will pay for my art. Thank your and keep working hard. You will be hearing the band belmaus very soon.
Go for it, you have the world right in your hands! belmaus Let's Go!
Thank you Jack for all your love and the pure expression of who you are ❤
Love You, Jack!
Thanks for your inspiration, and passing on some "good advice"
I would love to discuss this with you on our podcast. I interested how you view teaches and coaches, if all advice is bad, what about psychologists. Advice needs to be targeted with a knowledge of the individual you are giving it to, or sorted and processed by the individual along with all their other knowledge and advice received to see how it can be applied.
Instant classic!
Created my inspirational playlist on You Tube and added this video to it. F### you Jack! ❤❤❤
this is coooool
You are brilliant.
Jack Conte talks always hit different
Well said Jack!
It's f**king awesome speech
don't ever give up jack
we'll hang in Carlsbad sometime
love, your actual biggest fan
You are awsome... you defenitely made me more confident to be my self.... I hope one day I meet you and refer back to this comment, to prove and say: see I took your advice :)
Honestly, you make me feel tired, but thanks for that.
Do you guys (perhaps you specifically, Jack) have a second-in-command type or a COO type around you? Almost every part of what you're saying has been primary drivers of team burnout, or these sort of personally revelatory systems that you seem to have to come up with on your own to sustain the things you really want to do, and these questions you're asking yourself and the team around you... these are things that 2iC types do naturally and are energized BY. Actually, my co-author and I are writing a book we're calling "How to be Second" about people we call "Seconds" talking about those types of humans. (Tend to be more in the shadows, curious, generalist/operational, makes plans and processes, runs the stuff but wants someone with a big idea to inspire them, etc - think Batman and Robin as the dynamic duo and Alfred as the Second-in-command.)
Curious if you've ever looked into that or have people like that around you.
You are talking about Dunning Krueger effect
Thank you
Thanks Jack
You are so cool!
Jack I hope you know that your speeches are as important to many of us, as the TedTalk from Benjamin Zander is to you :)
I had no clue that Dom Fera works for pomplamoose now wowee
interesting one, you are my Hero now
I need more left scooch.
If all that is what it takes, no wonder I haven't gotten anywhere...
i have never used Patreon because of the monthly fee. And I never will until they figure out their plan. Free and pay. Mixed feed free/pay. if you want watch the free content that’s available if you don’t wanna pay
You're my Gary Vee Jack Conte. :)
I have to disagree that per creation is inherently a bad idea. I like the idea for the very reason you outlined - creating on a schedule is intensely stressful, but I understand that the subscription model is a smart business decision.
Listen if your head of audio ever leaves, I can step in and you won't even need to learn a new name.
27:00
Good Advice
I don’t understand song per week. Playboi Carti has not released an album in three years and he’s the biggest hip-hop artist in the world.
when was the last time you heard of anything by Sacha Baron Cohen?
Do you think if he releases something tomorrow it’s not gonna blow up?
*I saw u uploaded. aint missing this. u r my 2nd fav youtuber. wish one day to do a colab* BTW finally my stuff is catching a lil traction
BTW my fav youtuber is not active anymore, so really that makes u my favorite, congrats on the success on patreon
@@GRUBB-MUDD At this point, you may as well share your youtube suggestion. We won't judge
@@jonclement yea sir thanks
wow
This was fun:) I was a Julia Nunes fan and so got onto Lauren O'Connell and via her got on to youse guyz and got to watch the beginning of Patreon. It was cool. I still explain to people that it's crowd funding patronage of the arts;) I haven't seen much from Julia for years. I consider Lauren's songwriting the poetic equivalent of Dylan. They're a spirit animal or something for me. I feel safer that they're in the world. I see your's and Natalie's music by far the most. Lauren still has the best lip curl;) Here's an epic concert with Natalie, Julia, and Lauren ruclips.net/video/d_9W0DIiGLg/видео.html
the author is deaf so he maxed out sound level
when did you learn to speak so quickly? A pleasing pace. Maybe my tongue is too big to do the same.
i liked Patreon until they started kicking off conservatives and censoring creators for mainstream Republican views, including concerns as parents - even if they only voiced those politically incorrectes views elsewhere, and not in Patreon.
I grew up in the 80s. Even far leftists would routinely say: I disagree with what you say, but defend to the death your right to say it.
I recall the controversy of censoring crude rap music. Where we believe in free speech for porn and filth - but not for the free exchange of actual ideas, apparently.
Not to mention a design contest for logo, rather than paying an artist? a 99 designs? Ethics = 0.
Yeah. This guy should not be held up as a high bar.
Can't you find anybody else besides Gary Vee? The dude's an utterly shameless scammer.
Adddddd
Admit your customer support STINKS! And move on!
i thought you bought subbable from hank?? may be misremembering
Hahaha
And now you laid off your employees lol
You made a difference🦾
Things that inspire me:
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