Jack the Ripper interview with leading Ripperologist Christer Holmgren - Part 2.
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This is the second part of the interview conducted by Edward Stow with Christer Holmgren, the star of the world famous documentary 'The Missing Evidence: Jack the Ripper' and author of 'Cutting Point: Solving the Jack the Ripper and Thames Torso Murders'.
Christer is one of the foremost experts in the case against Charles Lechmere as being the man known to history as Jack the Ripper. The interview details Christer's involvement in the Missing Evidence Documentary and the publication of his book.
I strongly recommend that you get Christer's book which is available here:
www.amazon.co.uk/Cutting-Poin...
With thanks to Mike Pemberton for the colourisation of the Charles Lechmere photograph.
His RUclips channel can be found here: / @pembysgamingworld
I've read most books on Jack the Ripper since the mid 80s, and Holmgren's book is the most realistic one. All the others, although often brilliant in finding evidence, and clarifying evidence, had some elements that were just fantasy. In other words, where evidence was lacking there would always be a leap in imagination, and that is where they always went wrong. Holmgren didn't fall into that hole. Personally I always believed the Ripper was there somewhere in police records, that man was Lechmere.
Yes indeed
Well said I agree
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I've just received my copy of Christer's book, Cutting Point , after watching this I will bury my head in it for the rest of the day. Many thanks gents for shedding light on this case. I watched the Missing Evidence program in 2014 and until I recently discovered your channel Ed I thought the trail had gone cold. I've long been fascinated and horrified by the JTR case but gave up due to some of the nonsense & crackpot theories being pushed. Once again thank you Ed and Christer for your hard work and amazing detail utterly fascinating I wait for every episode to come out.
Keep watching and keep reading!
Thank you again, Edward and Christer! "The Missing Evidence" was what first piqued my deeper interest in the Ripper case. Until that point, I'd had a passing interest, but 'Ripperology' had seemed a futile pursuit because we'd just never know the answer. However, the idea that Lechmere was found by Paul, standing over the body of poor Mary Ann Nichols - in an otherwise empty street - before the fatal wound in her neck had even begun to bleed visibly, seemed to me to be incontrovertible evidence of his guilt. Theories based on the assumption of the Ripper's medical experience (which was disputed even at the time of the murders) or focused on men who were Jewish (and who sadly suffered from what we'd now identify as a mental illness), always seemed very tenuous and speculative. Subsequent discoveries that Lechmere's mother operated a 'cat meat' business and that he was specifically a meat carter convinced me that he may have had some basic knowledge of butchery, but was at least unlikely to have been squeamish about gore. If you accept, as I do, that the same man was responsible for at least the 'canonical five' Ripper murders, Lechmere certainly has opportunity and means in respect of all cases. I'm convinced that today, he would be found guilty of the Nichols murder, even if he could not with certainty be convicted of all five. The lingering mystery for me is why did he stop? Was it the change in his domestic circumstances? Was it because the Mary Jane Kelly murder finally fulfilled his fantasies? Or did he, like Joseph de Angelo, believe that policing and investigation methods were improving and that to continue would certainly result in his arrest? OR - maybe as Edward says, he did not stop, just got smarter!! Fascinating stuff and brilliant interview. Thanks again, gentlemen!
Brilliant second part👍 I would pay good money to take a Ripper walking tour with Crister, Edward, and Richard Jones, to hear and learn more of their professional value of this fascinating subject from these three trusted prime sources 👍 brilliant work!
And please record it and upload it if it happens!
Richard Jones you can get. These guys not so much, you can get a "walking tour" of what Crister really thinks on casebook forums where he has posted over 10,000 times and regularly argues against people who are for a lack of a better term: "rather rude"
I truly believe that all the evidence needed to solve this case is out there. Its just a matter of getting the equation right, and you two are on the right track! Keep digging ! Great work! Dont ever stop !
Thanks
The case is solved. watch "The Missing Evidence"
The narration by Steven Mackintosh in the "Missing Evidence" was a highlight for me, as i enjoyed his story-telling skills in the fim "Underworld Evolution" A random JTR Documentary came up in my feed and now i am obsessed with that Carman.
Yes, he has a good voice
Yes. His voice is compelling like Peter Thomas. The documentary was first class. My favorite documentary. Same here, "Missing Evidence" convinced me.
@@walkawaycat431 Funnily enough, I went to secondary school with Steven Mackintosh.
He left for drama school around the age of 13 or 14.
That's a very long time ago now.
Another great video. Interesting to here about the TV crew progression from just doing their job to realising Lechmere is JTR.
Thank you for the interesting conversation! Mr Holmgren, it would be great if your book "Cutting Point" were also published in German. If you have any influence on this decision, please advocate for it. Thank you! Over 130 million readers would be grateful to you.
Hello, I'm certainly not an expert on this subject; in fact my interest spans over the last few weeks. I'm a writer, writing a detective story about a police officer in 1944. I couldn't take my detective back in time so I decided that he would be presented with a series of copy-cat killings. Thant's when I started researching the history of Jack the Ripper. I found myself hooked. Of the many documentaries I have seen I reached the conclusion that Lechmere was the most likely suspect and then I found your series on The House of Lechmere. I thank you for these videos. I know people can be quick to accuse this theory of containing too much supposition - there has to be a certain amount of supposition in a case this old anyway - but the same applies to all the other suspects too. The other theories tend to centre around one particular murder, whereas Lechmere is placed in such a way that all the murders are in his vicinity. I may be wrong but I think Lechmere is the killer. Thanks again for your videos.
Thank you for your observations and good luck with your book.
Thanks for taking the time, the book was already in my "basket" I wanted to check I was buying from the recommended source.
I'm looking forward to reading up on the Thames torso connection, it's unbelievable that many people who are familiar with the Ripper crimes have never heard of the torso murders. I didn't know about them tbh until I started following the house of Lechmere... Can't wait .
You will enjoy it
Congratulations, Ed and Christer, that was very interesting. More in that vein, please.
I already had an idea of the theory, but what I found revealing was the info about how the pair of you became interested in the case and how the Missing Evidence documentary came about. Interesting stuff.
You next Gary?
What would I have to offer?😂
@@garybarnett583
Blood, toil, sweat and tears.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Well that solves it, Ed - it was Winston Churchill what did it! 😂
Fascinating interview.
Absolutely brilliant as always 🔪🎩
Thank you Ed for the second part of the Interview with Christer Holmgren, A good job indeed, well done !
Thank you
Fantastic, been waiting for part 2 👍
I've just bought the book by following the link in the description, thanks for making it easy. Curiously it is cheaper new than the used copies being sold. Look forward to seeing more on Lechmere and deep dive into counter theories. Great stuff Ed with no hat today and Christer I hope I may learn even more from the book than I have seen it's coming Saturday cheers Detectives
I'm sure you will enjoy it
Another fantastic installment in this interview. I particularly enjoyed the ABBA analogy. 😁
Ha yes!
Hi ED you sir are the most knowledgeable on jack the ripper your podcast are the best love them 👍
Keep watching!
Yet another great episode of THoL. I stumbled upon these videos and, like the documentary production team, quickly became convinced that Lechmere was the ripper. He is definitely the only suspect that fits with what we know today about many serial killers m.o.'s and personalities etc. (as was discussed in the death of Peter Sutcliffe episode).
It seems unbelievable now that Lechmere was there all along in the police files and literally hiding in plain sight. Even more unbelievable is that there is so much resistance to him as a suspect. Not to say that people should just instantly dismiss every other theory but it seems insane to me that some don't even want to consider him!!
Thanks
Some say that Neil Armstrong never set foot on the face of the Moon. People are sometimes really obstinate. And those belonging to that particular category are rarely impressed by logic, so making logical points are sadly a total waste of time with some. I have seen it in many, many fields, but never as frequently as I do in Ripperology. Thank you for your kind words!
@@christerholmgren335 My grandmother (born 1884) refused to believe in the moon landings .As an aside her elder sister was working in London in 1888 and apparently the family were concerned about her welfare .
Excellent run down and discussion between you two. I watched the documentary in Australia a few years ago. And I was blown away. Thank you for all you do with your channel to get the truth out there to the world…
Fantastic meeting of minds. Very interesting. Thank you
I have that book I’m reading ✅ Thank You Both So Much Cheers 🥂 🇬🇧🏴
Excellent documentary and book!
Brilliant thank you 👍
Gr8 Interview with Christer, Edward😊🤲
You and Christer are always fascinating to listen to and together you make a very persuasive case. Have you made a video on your thoughts about Jacob Levy as a suspect -or do you prefer to steer clear of debunking other theories?
I intend to do a series on the other suspects
In 1988, there was a show about White Chapel murders 100th anniversary. A panel of experts discussed evidence again the top five suspects at the time. They framed it like a trial. At the end, blame Aaron Kosminski.
I would love to see something like this on again. Only this time, try Lechmere along with the others. I think we know how that will turn out.
Good interview Ed. It was good to see you guys get together again.
Thanks
Perfect. Please collaborate more.
We will!
Well done Edward. Great listening to you both again.
I’ve been a ripper fan since I saw the movie with Michael Caine back in 1988. I love your channel and I’m into Lechmere as well. I hope you can make the next interview in the same room.. to get a better sound.
I’ve seen most of your videos by now.. But can you say something about Lechmeres motives by doing these crimes? Or maybe you have mention it? Then it have slipped my mind
There are typically no classical motives involved in cases of sexual serial murder. The murders are themselves the motive; it is about how the killer wants to feel in control and have the power of other human beings, and many times about feeding a massive narcissism. The killer wants recognition, and is often unable to get ii in his normal social life, so he turns to something that WILL get him recognition. These murders are not about jilted love, money, having been insulted or so on, even of elements of these matters can to a degree be present. Some serial killers may take money from their victims, and it may be that some serial killers have been mocked by prostitutes and so on, but these things are not the ulterior motives as such. If they were, why would the serial killer go on to kill women who never mocked him, instead of killing just the one who did?
The crucial point to me ,is the giving of the name Cross .It was misleading,unnecessary & denotes some kind of guilt.We can assume that he told no one at work that he had found the body & he gives the impression by his actions that he wants to distance himself from the murder scene as quickly as possible,physically,geographically & psychologically .
Really wish they would do a film on Charles Ann Letchmere being Jack the Ripper, you Should both write ✍ one using all the evidence you gathered against him.
Good idea!
Be like a horror movie. I started thinking he was looking for organs to sell .Chucking around parts and pulling innards out the way.
Interesting that the TV company decided to make a documentary about a JtR suspect, before deciding who that suspect was actually going to be.
I think the decision only came after they had found out about Lechmere. They were doing a series, and made an effort to see if anytbhing had surfaced in the Ripper case that was interesting.
I had always thought that the old ripperologists, and others, were under the impression that a policeman discovered the body of Polly Nichols. However, I recently saw a video of a Martin Fido Ripper Walk (1980s) in which he said that "Two cartmen" discovered the body, so there was clearly some awareness.
Lechmere is the man, the Ripper, it seems so obvious
Thank you gentlemen. I wonder what were the triggers in lechmere's life that led to his chosen "hobby".
I will cover that I a future episode!
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 fantastic. i wonder what part the death of the child under the wheels of his cart played. A very interesting character, even more so with 8 or 9 children. i look forwards to your thoughts on his life/character..
(18:45) I guess that old biblical saying "no prophet is acceptable in his own country" (Luke 4:24) can be applied on the fact that "The Missing Evidence", featuring Christer's theories, hasn't been aired here in Sweden.
Please let Christer know that this interview sold at least one more copy of his book! Thank you for having him as a guest. I was sorry to hear that he was not paid anything for his appearance on the Documentary, but it sounds like it led to the writing of his book.
You are correct in saying that the documentary was instrumental in leading to me writing Cutting Point. But I only did so since I was approached by an editor who asked me to do it. I was, of course, easily persuaded to do it. As for not being payed for the documentary, it is not entirely true - I regard the foothold and great popularity Charles Lechmere has gained as a suspect as a rich enough salary to please a king! Again thanks for your kindness, and I hope you enjoyed Cutting Point.
@@christerholmgren335 Thank you for the reply. I am glad that you are well pleased with the non-monetary compensation you received (the Lechmere theory gaining great traction) from the documentary. That is not a common response these days.
@@captainnolan5062 That may well be true. The irony of it all is that lots of those who are eager to try and dismiss the Lechmere theory, are very quick to accuse me of having a monetary interest behind everything I say - write a book and people will use that against you. It is a very sad state of affairs, but nevertheless an inevitable inclusion in what has been named Ripperology. It makes it feel so much the better when people see through it!
@@christerholmgren335 I would point out to your critics that, no matter what your motivations (and I believe your motives are pure), the Lechmere theory has so much common sense behind it that they should evaluate the theory on its merits and not bring your motivation into the discussion. Do the paintings of Monet & Pissarro, the movies of Ingmar Bergman, or the novels of Charles Dickens have any less merit because they were created to be sold and provide the creators with a living?
@@captainnolan5062 Very true. And Dickens is my favourite author, so I would never begrudge him anything …!
How many Ripper cases was PC Neil proximal to? Just the one?
Yes, his beat would have involved the Nichols case only.
Im not sure how anyone could be so sure that he would've definitely stayed put when Paul approached, as the policeman in the 'Missing evidence' seems to be. For sure he would've heard the footsteps before he was clearly seen and would've been hastily weighing his options in his mind as to whether to stay or flee. But I think he would've also known that if he ran there was a good chance of running straight into a beat policeman and becoming embroiled in a chase that he may not have won, given that there were other police in nearby streets. So he chose a risky option because it meant he could now be identified by Paul. Which is why i agree with Edward's theory that he chose his next victim in an area that kept Paul as a potential person of interest, taking focus away from himself. I suppose it's possible he worked out his options in advance, before he began the murder, since he already knew he was taking a big risk. And he doesn't seem to have been out of control at any time or he wouldn't have been able to front Paul in the way he did. It seems so very cunning. In similar circumstances, the yorkshire ripper chose to run when disturbed, but the street situation with a park over the road enabled him to do that. And the route was also one Lechmere used every day which made it tricky for him, whereas in yorkshire it was one street in a much wider area of attack Thank you both for another highly professional and illuminating video. I never thought this case would be solved, just because of lack of forensics, and everybody being dead now, but i think you've done it. Congratulations. All those dozens of books published on this case and they all got the one key part wrong. It's incredible. I guess the most resistance you get will be from those people who invested their belief into the book they bought, or the book they wrote. But most people just want to know the truth.
Some very good points there
l think lechmere used to be one of the boys in the pubs in the eastend thats why the poor murdered women went with him i think they all knew him also thats why edddowes said i think i know him
He may well have frequented the pubs in the area - he grew up in it, and had only recently moved away from it - just as he may have been a frequent customer with the prostitutes. It would have made him look safe and sound in the eyes of the victims. Many serial killers have a history of buying sex before embarking ao a killing career.
Another fascinating video! Just want to thank you for all the hard work you've put into making these videos. I truly 100% believe in my heart that between you and everyone involved in putting this case about Charles lechmere together have solved the jack the ripper case. Nobody else even comes close. Please keep the videos coming. God bless.
Thank you
Yes they have solved it
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Perhaps because I do a bit of photography I`m always fascinated by the story (if there is one) behind the photograph of Lechmere .For a man who clearly kept a low profile throughout his life it seems extraordinary that he should have agreed to be photographed. Have we any background as to when ,where ,date or the circumstances surrounding this photograph ?
Nothing really
The photo of Lechmere was taken in 1912. A photo of his wife Elizabeth was also taken in the exact same spot. Looks like they took it in turns to pose for the camera. Probably taken by one of his family as part of a family album and then got passed down to today's decendents as photo's if lucky often do..
@@susanclapp1721 Thank you .That sounds about right . I think photography became more accessible around that time .I have family photos taken around that period . No doubt he must of felt uncomfortable .
@@absonus Little did the old chap know when posing for that photo that over a hundred years later he would be on a world wide documentary...a book wrote about him...and videos discussing him. For all we know he may have even left a confession letter on his death bed revealing the truth? Something we will never know.
@@susanclapp1721 Now there IS a thought .I must say that I`ve been impressed by the work which has gone into uncovering these details. Its a case everyone knows about ,of course, but I`ve never taken more than a cursory interested myself because it seems to be all speculation and very little in the way of hard fact ; until now. I`m sure that there is a lot more work to be done and having researched my own family history I know how difficult and time consuming that can be. To all those involved ...you have my admiration .
I'm just leaving this comment here cause I'm hoping you'll see it. There is no link to this specific video.
First I'd like to say, for what it's worth coming from little old me, that I consider your work on the case THE most convincing and fact based of anyone's work I've ever heard of on this subject. I'd convict Letchmear tomorrow on your evidence. Just one thing I'd be so interested in your opinion on.
I was watching a series called Killing Season about the bodies found on Long Island between roughly late 90's to 2010. In episode two there was a profile put forward regarding 'torso killers'. Point being they are a particular breed and extremely teratorial. They used the Jack The Ripper case to illustrate this point. Suggesting that the torsos that showed up around London at the time were the work of another killer who believed Jack, with all the press he was getting, was stepping on his toes. He put torsos everywhere, including Scotland Yard, as a way of marking his territory to Jack. Could be himself the reason Jack 'disappeared '.
What do you make of this, if anything? Which is most likely to be Lechmear if we are talking about two killers? I'd be sooooo interested in your take.
I don´t know if you have read Cutting Point? The name of the book refers to the railway arch in which the Pinchin Street torso was found, and I think the Pinchin Street case is the clincher for a common originator of both series. The torso was found in the very street where Charles Lechmere grew up during his formative years as a boy. Also, the place where his mother lived with Joseph Forsdyke, in Splidts Street, in the exact same area, was torn down to give way for that railway arch. Moreover, the day after the torso was found, a bloody apron was found dumped up at the building site for the new St Philips church, right by the London Hospital. Oddly, if you draw a line from the arch and straight over the site where the apron was found, and if you prolong that line up to the northeast, you end up exactly at the place where Lechmere lived, 22 Doveton Street. Coincidence? Again? Personally, I do not think so. Moving on, I believe that the reason that the torso was dumped in Ripper territory, carrying a shallow ”blueprint” cut all the way down the abdomen, was that the killer was tired of not getting recognition for both series. I think we are looking at an outcry: ”Now do you see? I am responsible for BOTH series!”. The idea that a torso killer would be fiercely territorial is interesting, but in these cases, I do not think there was any contest going on, since I believe there was just the one, deeply frustrated killer, who - as narcissists do - wanted recognition. I would also point to how it was believed that both Chapman and Kelly were examples of efforts to try and decapitate. There were deep notches and cuts in the structures that suggested this, but it seems the killer did not have the knowledge to decapitate by way of knife. In this context, it should be noted that Charles Hebbert - who examined and described the four torso victims from 1887 to 1889, said that the killer went through a progression - in the first three cases, reaching up to the summer of 1889, way beyond the failed effort to decapitate Kelly back in November 1888, the so called Torso killer used a saw to take the head off. In the summer of 1889, he had learnt how to sever the spine in the back by way of knife, but still had to use a saw to take off the head of Liz Jackson. Then, in September of 1889, he finally took off the head of the Pinchin Street victim using a knife only. In my world, it all fits together, piece by piece, and I have no doubts whatsoever that we are looking at a common originator. Many thanks for your kind words and I hope to have provided a useful answer for you!
@@christerholmgren335 I had heard before, and must admit forgotten, about how the deep cuts to the throats of the Ripper victims were attempts at decapitation. I also now remember that the ripper never started cutting until he had already strangled his victims. A point which made him stand out sooo much from all the other nasty murderers in London up until that point. ( someone who kills to cut rather then cuts to kill.) But I had never heard of the comment you told me about by the coroner who talked of a progression in skills as far as dismemberment goes when it comes to the torso killings. Neither had I ever heard someone putting together the dates of each body with the progression of skill and the greater dismemberment.
I think you are totally right. (How is any of this still a question?)
Thankyou for your reply.
Karen
i think that lechmere was not walking to work that morning i think he was already with polly nicholls before paul turned up he was with her a good half hour before paul came along
I certainly believe he may have told fibs about when he left home, but to be honest, if he had been in company with Nichols for half an hour, I think we would see a displayed body and missing organs. And no carman.
If the Ripper was also responsible for the torso murders, why would he have so significantly changed his modus operandi ? Can someone explain?
I think it was about narcissism. Although the Torso murders were every bit as gruesome as the Ripper murders, they never got anything like the press coverage that the Ripper murders did. It all began with Tabram (who may or may not have been a Ripper victim). When she was killed, there was quite a lot of press interest. And regardless if the Ripper himself was the killer or not, I think this may have sparked the idea to take his business to the open streets of London, leaving victims on display as he went along. As an aside, I believe that the reason that the body parts from the Torso murders were dumped in the western parts of London had to do with a wish on behalf of the killer to have them floating ashore in the epicenter of the largest metropolis in the world. If they had floated ashore along the sparsely inhabited parts to the east of London, they would never be as much of a sensation as if they floated ashore along the Houses of Parliament ... Anyway, this is my assumption. In this context, the Pinchin Street woman is very interesting. It was the only torso found dumped in the eastern parts of London, and it was found tight in Ripper territory. Plus it had a shallow cut all the way down the abdomen. I believe it was all about the killer being upset about not getting credit for both series. He wanted to say "Hey, you idiots, look here! I am the only mutilating killer around London!" And as fate (or not) would have it, this torso was dumped on the exact street where Lechmere spent his formative childhood years. And the railway arch in which it was found, had caused his mothers and second stepfathers lodgings to be torn down to give way for it. And when a line is drawn from that arch all the way up to 22 Doveton Street, where Charles Lechmere lived, it passes straight over the site where St Phillips church was being built in those days. And on that building site, the very day after the torso was found, a bloody apron was discovered. So we either go "WHAT a set of coincidences!" or we go "Lechmere!" Take your pick.
@@christerholmgren335 Thank you for your very informative reply. I did not know the details concerning the railway arch. It is yet another clue that JTR may have been Lechmere. The more I learn about him, the more I believe he is the most likely suspect.
Have you considered looking at other murder cases or missing persons. Are there any other mysteries you would be thinking of looking at besides Jack the Ripper.
Possibly...
Not really saying a lot. This could have been a private conversation. Meatier questions please.
Ask and you shall have you answer, Mr Meat!
At the Nichols site, Paul didn't see any blood because the street was dark and he didn't have much light. He says as much in his interview with the Lloyds paper. PC Neil had a lantern, so of course he could see the blood that Paul did not see. Griffiths in The Missing Evidence made the mistaken assumption that Paul did not see the blood and that Neil did, therefore, Ms. Nichols had bled more since Paul left and PC Neil arrived. This is not necessarily so. Paul did not see the blood because it was dark, and PC Neil did see the blood because he had a lantern.
As I have pointed out - it was light enough for them to see her hat, her hands and that her legs were uncovered.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 I agree with you. I was talking about what Griffiths said in the Missing Evidence documentary.
Yes. 1
I always thought no one knew who Jack the Ripper was
You do now
I was beaten to it!
Well jtr knew who jtr was
I just ain’t sold on any one person because so much time has passed a lot of information is lost forever, tho I have went from being flat out it wasn’t this witness to well it could have been but then it may not have tho I do wonder what the cops reaction would have been had they known some of the things we do know about him today.
The cops then tho they really did have it up against them and I do feel sorry for them a little for the shit they took but the circumstances where stacked against them.
Its not about how much evidence has gone lost, not in my view. It is about how there is still evidence enough to produce a case that would stand up in court according to a KC. How that was missed for more than a century is the real riddle. And I have to admit to having been amongst the ones who missed it for the longest time. But no more!
Martha tabram was stabbed 39 times and lechmere was 39 yes old at that time, coincidence or gory clue???
Lechmere was 38, born in October of 1849. If he had. been 39, In would have gone for coincidence any day in the week ...
Hi Edward loved the video but I still can’t except that Charlie’s cross lived another 30YEARS and didn’t kill again as I think we can all agree JTR was a madman and just wouldn’t stop so why do you think he stopped
Have you not read Christer's book? All is explained: he did not stop!
Possibly he was satisfied with the Kelly murder or as myself and others suspect he carried on but maybe changed his M O. He really could be responsible for the Thames thorso murders.
He carried on
JTR wasn’t a madman. That’s what the Victorian police believed. I truly think he was cool and calculating, and really believe it was Lechmere.
. Will you be writing any sort of book about Cross or are you avoiding that because you realise you'd be very quickly exposed as Eddy Butler; the former member of violent fascist group Combat 18 and comedy far-right chancers the BNP.? I see from photos you appear to be married to Cross's sister..or, at a pinch, daughter. Anyway thanks for your time.!
I like your Swedish gnome!
Get help.
@steven8317 How about i write a book called steven8317 is a plonker. I'll even sign it for you if you give me a correct name and send a latest photo of yourself...so we can have a good laugh 😅