Yes, she is. It's the only time we've seen her actually thinking about something and someone other than herself. Possibly her one likable trait is that she does love her sister. However, she is too young and inexperienced to be able to give constructive advice. What Macy _should_ do is go directly to Thorne, immediately, and ask him what really happened.
@@annieo6527 The funniest part about all this is that Kimberly was right there in Venice with Thorne and Brooke but she doesn't know they're involved. 🥴 Thorne and Brooke did more on the plane in view of everyone than Kimberly and Rick have done in b ed! 😆
It's as if merely not being 17 anymore is in itself a sign of moving on with one's life. Like, "see, I did it, I managed to not be 17 for the past 15 years!"
Yes - it was originally _Brooke_ who was the rebound. Thorne only kissed her for the first time because he thought that Macy had refused his marriage proposal.
However, Steph looking generally not impressed by Morgan's teenage, unstable behaviour and telling her that she should move on with her own life... *rewind* *play* *rewind* *play* ▶️
Absolutely… Cringe worthy scenes. Ridge and Morgan are completely out of sync in their scenes together. 😖 RM acts like he might be tired of playing charming Ridge? 😁 While Morgan acts like she could be having a nervous breakdown at any moment. 🥴
Morgan and Ridge act like they’re still bloody teenagers. “Stephanie didn’t give a damn about me, or my baby!” Um - did *you* give a damn? Because you were the one who agreed to abort it. Did you ask Stephanie for her take on your sleeping with Ridge in the first place? No? Then why was her opinion on what to do with the baby so important? If you really wanted it, you would have gone to Ridge instead of Stephanie, back then. And don’t get me started on Ridge. Acting like Stephanie is the Mean Mommy who kept them apart. As if he hasn’t admitted himself he was a playboy back then. As if we all don’t know that even then, he would have run to Stephanie to make the problem go away. The annoying thing is that if this story were done differently, I might actually feel sorry for a woman who clearly had a very traumatic experience as a young person. But the writing is killing this, because they’re making her bratty and childish and ridiculously incapable of taking responsibility for anything *now,* as an adult. And along the way they’re also killing any growth Ridge achieved during the Taylor pregnancy storyline. P.S. I absolutely *love* the look on Susan Flannery’s face when she hangs up on Morgan. You can practically hear her thinking, “I just got rid of Brooke, and now I already need to deal with another of Ridge’s psycho bints. Damn it all to hell.”😂
Yes, I think that with a more sympathetic portrayal of Morgan, this storyline might have felt entirely different. It's also that the flashbacks are so unconvincing and Morgan looks nothing like a teenager in them.
Should we expect Stephanie to ever hold her family members accountable for anything? She is their Enabler and Fixer. Morgan is actually somewhere at the bottom of Stephanie’s transgression list.
Stephanie once slapped her son when he indicated that she had gotten pregnant on purpose to trap his father. But any other woman that gets pregnant clearly is the one to blame for the pregnancy according to Stephanie. A 17year old dating her 20something year old son -and getting pregnant- had to be a cunning girl, using their son ( _Stephanie's two talks with Eric about Morgan and Ridge's past relationship_ ). In 1987 we already had had Stephanie worried that Margo supposedly had some kind of agenda to seduce Eric and to get pregnant, to get Eric to leave her.
Wait.. Morgan said yesterday that she asked Ridge directly how he felt about kids and he said he wasn't ready for that. And that's when she went back to Steph bc she realised Steph was right. How are we back now to saying it was Steph alone who told her that and didn't allow her to talk to Ridge? Look, Morgan.... Get off my screen. And take that sanctimonious, disingenuine ingrate, Ridge too. Ridge didn't even want a baby with Brooke years after this happened. 😐
I agree. All I can say is previously in watching season 13 I did fast-forward Morgan scenes. Not liking the character Morgan, any better this go round. 😟 Also finding Ridge’s behavior with Morgan, very odd and offsetting. He seems to have lost all concern for Stephanie’s health? 🤷♀️ Not to mention that Ridge already has a wife and three children to worry about? 🥴
It fits with Morgan's flashback in ep. 3262, when Morgan at the doctor's office told Stephanie that she wasn't ready for the abortion, didn't really want to do it and that Ridge didn't even know yet that Morgan was pregnant because she had not told him that yet (had only asked him about his feelings about having kids).
So... Morgan's parents, according to thia story the writers have given us, were very religious, so it seems she ran away from home (or left home without their consent) to choose a wild and crazy lifestyle in LA as a model... She broke out like a bad rash, and was having the time of her life, til she wasn't. And then she.... Turned to an almost complete stranger in Steph bc she was too ashamed to turn to her own parents for help.😐 Sounds like Morgan has a lot more to unpack and get therapy for, than just the ab...
Said it before, don't play abortion advisor to a 17 year old without involving her parents, take her to the doctor and then just put her on a plane home, when the parents might be very religious and be against abortion. How was Morgan supposed to tell these very religious people (and the 2005 SL even had her mother being a neurosurgeon) that the mother of the father of Morgan's baby had convinced Morgan that killing their child was for the best and that Morgan had believed her, even when she then had regretted it right afterwards and had felt she had done something very wrong?
@@blackblake3658 17 year Morgan was working at FC as a model and living the _wild lifestyle_ by being Ridge's girlfriend dating him for over a year (a detail Eric didn't seem to mind - except that he felt that Ridge had been the one using Morgan and not Morgan Ridge). 😏In 1994 we already had 17 year old Jessica befriending the 19 year old Forrester models Ivana and Michelle and 18 year old Coco, when Ivana bragged to Jessica how Ivana and Michelle had been 15, when they started modeling for real, traveled to Paris and Milan, how Ivana even had just been 14 when she had been on a Vogue cover.
@@mara4450 said it before, I may not be in agreement with Steph's methods, but Morgan involved her in the first place and I am in agreement with Steph looking to protect her family. And I'm unwavering on that. However, I will say that Steph needed/needs to hold her own son accountable, as Morgan didn't get pregnant via immaculate conception. Morgan clearly had several issues b4 we even get to the ab issue. And her own inability to have gone to her own parents is a glaring issue for me. Even Ridge asked her why she didn't go to her parents for support. And who knows, due to her inability to tell them about her s E x outside of marriage and resulting unplanned pregnancy (also frowned upon by "religious" parents), she maybe asked Steph not to tell them either. I can only go by the story the writers are making up about her parents at this time. At any rate, it's Morgan's responsibility to tell her own parents. She may have been 17 at the time but she wasn't a baby... at some point she has to take responsibility for her own actions. And she's now a grown woman and def has to take responsibility for her behaviour now.
@@TriniT21 I can get that it might be difficult for a pregnant minor to tell her parents about a pregnancy, especially if they have strong convictions (no abortion, no underage sex, focus on your career....). Adult Felicia never told her mother about her cancer or her baby because they never had that much of a relationship, but as an adult that is her choice. IMO, as long as a legal minor is involved, the parents shouldn't get cut out of decision-making, when you then expect them to deal with the consequences (the traumatized daughter) in any case. Stephanie might have felt the need to protect her son, but Morgan's parents too might have wanted to protect their daughter from a decision that might affect her whole life and that she might always regret. That chance has been taken from them. And Morgan turned into a troubled woman that after decades still regretted that abortion and felt that she should have had that baby and raise it (and later a troubled Morgan twice tries to turn back time by recreating that pregnancy and decision making).
Back to his normal arrogant posturing, Eric dismissing his wife. He reluctantly appeases Stephanie by saying he’ll keep his guard up. As usual, Ridge’s mother knows best.
“Stephanie didn’t give a damn about me or the baby” uhh neither did ridge. Funny how their both holding each other blameless for their part in it and instead rather blame Steph for it. Ridge not holding her responsible for not telling him she’s pregnant and about the abortion and instead angry with Steph for HIM choosing to sleep with a child. Morgan for being angry with Steph for her herself not going to ridge first and telling him she’s pregnant first or her parents.
@@NewYorkNick0607😆 Dren is a genetically engineered hybrid creature/human who starts as a fe male and evolves into male . Morgan’s storyline should have had a similar plot! 😜
The kettle can't badmouth the pot because Morgan don't give a damn about Ridge's wife Dr. Taylor Forrester and their three babies waiting for Ridge at home. Ridge should of told Morgan after you left I experienced an a mazing real love with Mrs. Caroline Spencer Forrester my first wife, she died from leukemia, then I fell in love with my second wife Dr. Taylor Forrester. Morgan what happen to you happened over twenty years ago, and it don't fit into a life with me or my mother's company so why did you take the job offer from Brooke? Ridge got a lot to learn. He can't gently touch a woman hair and then kiss her on the forehead because the woman is receiving it as a sex invitation instead of understanding caring for their pain from a friend perspective.
You know what? I am so tired of people acting as if Thorne nor Ridge can't think for themselves. Ridge is the one that kept pushing and hounding Morgan about why she left. He knocked her up. Stephanie act as if any woman she doesn't approve of are forcing Thorne and Ridge to make teh choices they make
Given the circumstances, it was kind of strange that Sally decided that she and Clarke should suddenly leave the party. She could see that something was not right with Macy, and instead of asking her about it, she assumed that Macy was just tired, and made sure the party ended so her daughter could get some rest. Maybe it's like when Stephanie was not involved in Thorne's 1995 storyline - she would have made too much sense and the situation would have been resolved too easily and with no drama. Sally is Macy's most reliable support system and in order for this storyline to work, Macy needs to be more vulnerable than she would have been if Sally had been more closely involved in Macy's life.
I was just making a similar comment in relation to the previous episode. Kimberly has to be the one Macy confides in because it begins to position Kimberly in her future role in the triangle that is eventually established between her, Brooke and Thorne. It's about plot, rather than character. If the storyline was true to the characters themselves, Sally probably would have stayed and been there for Macy, or at least attempted to ask her what was wrong.
It's so meta that what is upsetting Macy is the actual "double narrative" that I have been talking about. Suddenly she is beginning to see _both_ "realities" and she (like the viewer) doesn't know what to make of it, and is doubting which narrative is actually real. In fact, it is not Thorne's feelings for Brooke that will ultimately drive Macy to drink, it's _Macy's_ feelings about her role in the conflicting narratives.
And I wrote a post under one of yours about the new triangle. I made a comparison between this triangle and the one during Tridge's first marriage.Macy's inner conflict and her ad diction make the SL compelling for us as also Bridget caused inner conflicts to Taylor. But of course BE is a more talented actress. It is a shame they didn't make Macy win this time. There were all the ingredients for a great happy ending.
@@babs4848 yes, I just saw your reply to that post and I think you have a great point! Macy and Thorne could have made it work in this situation if they had just been open with each other about their feelings, like Ridge and Taylor were during their first marriage. I wrote a post about how Thorne's infatuation with Brooke can actually be compared to Macy's alcoholism and how this really needs to be deal with because Thorne doesn't _recognize_ the unhealthy nature of his feelings for Brooke. He just recognize how _healthy_ he feels with Macy in Brooke's absence (like in the scene before the barbecue). And, in fact, there _is_ a kind of happy ending for Thorne and Macy in this storyline, only it's very delayed and very short-lived.
@@annieo6527 loved your post about Thorne s unaware addi ction😄. The writers often recycled storylines, this could have been better structured as the Tridge's one, in Macy and Thorne favour of course because they are the couple and have to defended. So it is even more frustrating watching all this mess that will have any happy couple because Brooke and Thorne won't last.
First time Kimberly is trying to support someone other than herself. Macy & Kimberly have a good sisters relationship❤. Macy should listen to Kimberly, Kimberly is making sense❤
*RECAP FOR EPISODE 3276* Ridge is still stunned by his mother's role in Morgan's abortion and the fact that she kept it secret all these years. When Thorne asks Rick how his mother's doing, Rick realizes Brooke must be feeling pretty left out and lonely. Macy tries to make sense of the conversation she heard between Eric and Ridge, and starts to wonder if they could be right. Kimberly thinks Macy must have misunderstood them. Macy is somewhat reassured when Thorne embraces her and tells Macy that he loves her. Stephanie doesn't think they should underestimate Morgan's capacity to make trouble, but Eric can't understand why Stephanie is so concerned about Morgan's past relationship with Ridge. Morgan cries in Ridge's arms. She tells him that it's a relief to finally have their secret out in the open. She knows he would have been a wonderful father to their child. Ridge appreciates her honesty. Stephanie calls and accuses Morgan of telling Ridge to get revenge on her. Stephanie warns Morgan to stay away from Ridge, but Morgan insists that she's calling the shots this time. After all these years, Stephanie is going to pay for her mistake.
The rigde and Morgan sl still makes no damn sense. Rigde was an unresponsible, selfish, arrogant and disrepectful womaizer. He literally has jumped from bed to bed than. He was so pissed at Brooke for getting pregant when he was almost 30 years old. But the writers want to convince us, he would have been happy when his teenage girlfriend years prior was pregant and he would have known. BS. Complete bs. Morgan is instabil and she was it than. Nobody pressured her in not telling rigde or having an abortion.
When you have to keep interfering with your stupid older son and making sure that he doesn't get tempted for a way from his marriage. Then there's tells you, there's something really wrong with him
It's _very_ subtle, but here we see that Kimberly is actually unintentionally playing a part in Macy's destruction. When Macy first overhears the conversation between Eric and Ridge, her initial reaction is a healthy one - she wants to know the truth, in fact, she almost asks Thorne about it. Then she talks to Kimberly, and Kimberly reassures her that she has nothing to worry about, and tells her to forget about the whole thing. And Macy takes her advice and stops asking the right questions, instead keeping her worries bottled up inside where they actually cause _more_ damage than if Macy had dealt with them openly. At the end of the episode, even as Thorne holds Macy and tells her he loves her, you can see that her peace of mind is gone. And as well-meaning as Kimberly's advice is, it doesn't take this into account. Macy _can't_ unhear what she heard.
I see what you're saying but isn't the real problem that Macy _doesn't_ take Kimberly's advice? What makes this situation interesting is the double narrative you've identified and (as @Esi) said in another episode, Thorne actually does love Macy. This isn't a situation where a man married a woman he doesn't love or isn't deeply connected to. Maybe Macy wasn't his first choice this time, but they do have a history and it's not crazy to think that things could've worked out for them if Macy had suppressed those doubts and what she heard on the phone. If she'd taken Kimberly's advice and just put that all behind her, Thorne could've stayed committed to her especially with Brooke finally accepting their marriage. Isn't it Macy _not_ taking that advice that leads to tragedy?
I can see your point. I guess what's most interesting to me, is that Kimberly of all ppl, is giving relationship advice at all... She has the least experience and just spent most of her time on the show chummy with Brooke and trying to break up a marriage herself.
Also even though Kimberly knows Macy is an alcoholic she may not realize what stress could do to an alcoholic.Also Kimberly once again might be showing her youth and naivete regarding her advice to Macy.For example i think Sally with her experience in life might have advised Macy to talk to Thorne,
@@NewYorkNick0607 this _also_ is ambiguous (like everything else in this storyline). Macy does try to suppress her doubts, and Thorne does love her. But at the same time, Thorne continues to be tempted by Brooke, so that Macy's doubts _aren't actually unfounded._ And it seems at this point that Brooke does accept the marriage, but that acceptance is ambiguous, too. So the question is whether the "prophesy" of Macy's doubts is self-fulfilling or not.
Macy knew that Thorne had feelings for Brooke. She shouldn't have accepted to marry him in such a hurry...it was evident that he was devastated for something when she found him in Venice.
I cant stand how all these passionate Spectra actors have been treated by the show. Losing storylines and written off the show one by one. 😭I love KKL and her range as an actress, but there where more capable actors on this show.
I don’t think this show gives Morgan the credit she is due for being the first woman to carry Ridge’s child. We always remember Brooke’s miscarriage but I think this might be the first and only abortion storyline on this show that actually went through (I know Stephanie tried to pull the same mess with Brooke).
Kimberly is SO much more likable as Macy's no-nonsense/supportive sister than as Rick's 🐔 tease.
Yes, she is. It's the only time we've seen her actually thinking about something and someone other than herself. Possibly her one likable trait is that she does love her sister.
However, she is too young and inexperienced to be able to give constructive advice. What Macy _should_ do is go directly to Thorne, immediately, and ask him what really happened.
@@annieo6527 Or maybe Macy should go to Eric for answers because she knows he and Ridge did something to break Thorne and Brooke up.
@@aph1976 but the main issue isn't what they did, it's how Thorne feels.
Kimberly should just be on the cover of Victoria Secret period !!!!
@@annieo6527 The funniest part about all this is that Kimberly was right there in Venice with Thorne and Brooke but she doesn't know they're involved. 🥴 Thorne and Brooke did more on the plane in view of everyone than Kimberly and Rick have done in b ed! 😆
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*Stephanie:* "Isn't it time you move on with your life?"
*Morgan:* "I am _not_ 17 anymore!"
Uh that's kind of her point Morgan?! 🥴
Morgan sure could have fooled me...
Also...Morgan :"I am in control now.."
UH... yeah, no...
@@TriniT21 Maybe she means she's in the cont role now.
It's as if merely not being 17 anymore is in itself a sign of moving on with one's life. Like, "see, I did it, I managed to not be 17 for the past 15 years!"
Morgan has nothing to say.
Morgan pushed her hair behind her left ear before answering the phone.She answers and puts the phone to her right ear.😂
How can Macy be the rebound when Thorn has a history of loving her
Yes - it was originally _Brooke_ who was the rebound. Thorne only kissed her for the first time because he thought that Macy had refused his marriage proposal.
Thank you so much for this really great episode and I hope that everyone is having a great day too
Ridge and Morgan scenes: ⏩⏩
However, Steph looking generally not impressed by Morgan's teenage, unstable behaviour and telling her that she should move on with her own life... *rewind* *play* *rewind* *play* ▶️
@@TriniT21 Oh yes once _Stephanie_ is in the scene, I watch.
Absolutely… Cringe worthy scenes. Ridge and Morgan are completely out of sync in their scenes together. 😖
RM acts like he might be tired of playing charming Ridge? 😁
While Morgan acts like she could be having a nervous breakdown at any moment. 🥴
@@bettyhopson I just can't with Morgan. She's so an no y ing!
@@NewYorkNick0607 it's the breathing for me.. If she shudder breathes One. More. Time....
Morgan and Ridge act like they’re still bloody teenagers. “Stephanie didn’t give a damn about me, or my baby!” Um - did *you* give a damn? Because you were the one who agreed to abort it. Did you ask Stephanie for her take on your sleeping with Ridge in the first place? No? Then why was her opinion on what to do with the baby so important? If you really wanted it, you would have gone to Ridge instead of Stephanie, back then.
And don’t get me started on Ridge. Acting like Stephanie is the Mean Mommy who kept them apart. As if he hasn’t admitted himself he was a playboy back then. As if we all don’t know that even then, he would have run to Stephanie to make the problem go away.
The annoying thing is that if this story were done differently, I might actually feel sorry for a woman who clearly had a very traumatic experience as a young person. But the writing is killing this, because they’re making her bratty and childish and ridiculously incapable of taking responsibility for anything *now,* as an adult. And along the way they’re also killing any growth Ridge achieved during the Taylor pregnancy storyline.
P.S. I absolutely *love* the look on Susan Flannery’s face when she hangs up on Morgan. You can practically hear her thinking, “I just got rid of Brooke, and now I already need to deal with another of Ridge’s psycho bints. Damn it all to hell.”😂
Amen to Alllll of this!
Worst part is, once everthn is said and done, Ridge will hav nobody to turn to except Stephanie 🙄
Yes, I think that with a more sympathetic portrayal of Morgan, this storyline might have felt entirely different. It's also that the flashbacks are so unconvincing and Morgan looks nothing like a teenager in them.
Stephanie blamed Morgan for getting pregnant
Not her much older son for taking advantage of a minor
Thank you! This! It's never Ridge's fault.
Should we expect Stephanie to ever hold her family members accountable for anything? She is their Enabler and Fixer.
Morgan is actually somewhere at the bottom of Stephanie’s transgression list.
Stephanie once slapped her son when he indicated that she had gotten pregnant on purpose to trap his father. But any other woman that gets pregnant clearly is the one to blame for the pregnancy according to Stephanie. A 17year old dating her 20something year old son -and getting pregnant- had to be a cunning girl, using their son ( _Stephanie's two talks with Eric about Morgan and Ridge's past relationship_ ).
In 1987 we already had had Stephanie worried that Margo supposedly had some kind of agenda to seduce Eric and to get pregnant, to get Eric to leave her.
Wait.. Morgan said yesterday that she asked Ridge directly how he felt about kids and he said he wasn't ready for that. And that's when she went back to Steph bc she realised Steph was right.
How are we back now to saying it was Steph alone who told her that and didn't allow her to talk to Ridge?
Look, Morgan.... Get off my screen.
And take that sanctimonious, disingenuine ingrate, Ridge too.
Ridge didn't even want a baby with Brooke years after this happened. 😐
When you can't even keep your retcon straight.
I am so enjoying seeing this older episodes but Morgan is literally the worst. Character, actress , this is the most ridiculous storyline.
I agree. All I can say is previously in watching season 13 I did fast-forward Morgan scenes. Not liking the character Morgan, any better this go round. 😟
Also finding Ridge’s behavior with Morgan, very odd and offsetting. He seems to have lost all concern for Stephanie’s health? 🤷♀️
Not to mention that Ridge already has a wife and three children to worry about? 🥴
It fits with Morgan's flashback in ep. 3262, when Morgan at the doctor's office told Stephanie that she wasn't ready for the abortion, didn't really want to do it and that Ridge didn't even know yet that Morgan was pregnant because she had not told him that yet (had only asked him about his feelings about having kids).
@@mara4450 yawn. Stephanie didn’t do anything Morgan did. Now she needs to live with it and deal with it. She made the choice. Period.
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Funny thing is the only time I can stand Kimberly is when she’s talking to Macy.
Same here! Macy is likable and it kind of makes Kimberly more likable by association.
So... Morgan's parents, according to thia story the writers have given us, were very religious, so it seems she ran away from home (or left home without their consent) to choose a wild and crazy lifestyle in LA as a model...
She broke out like a bad rash, and was having the time of her life, til she wasn't.
And then she.... Turned to an almost complete stranger in Steph bc she was too ashamed to turn to her own parents for help.😐
Sounds like Morgan has a lot more to unpack and get therapy for, than just the ab...
But she was working for Forrester as a model?
Said it before, don't play abortion advisor to a 17 year old without involving her parents, take her to the doctor and then just put her on a plane home, when the parents might be very religious and be against abortion.
How was Morgan supposed to tell these very religious people (and the 2005 SL even had her mother being a neurosurgeon) that the mother of the father of Morgan's baby had convinced Morgan that killing their child was for the best and that Morgan had believed her, even when she then had regretted it right afterwards and had felt she had done something very wrong?
@@blackblake3658 17 year Morgan was working at FC as a model and living the _wild lifestyle_ by being Ridge's girlfriend dating him for over a year (a detail Eric didn't seem to mind - except that he felt that Ridge had been the one using Morgan and not Morgan Ridge). 😏In 1994 we already had 17 year old Jessica befriending the 19 year old Forrester models Ivana and Michelle and 18 year old Coco, when Ivana bragged to Jessica how Ivana and Michelle had been 15, when they started modeling for real, traveled to Paris and Milan, how Ivana even had just been 14 when she had been on a Vogue cover.
@@mara4450 said it before, I may not be in agreement with Steph's methods, but Morgan involved her in the first place and I am in agreement with Steph looking to protect her family. And I'm unwavering on that.
However, I will say that Steph needed/needs to hold her own son accountable, as Morgan didn't get pregnant via immaculate conception.
Morgan clearly had several issues b4 we even get to the ab issue. And her own inability to have gone to her own parents is a glaring issue for me. Even Ridge asked her why she didn't go to her parents for support. And who knows, due to her inability to tell them about her s E x outside of marriage and resulting unplanned pregnancy (also frowned upon by "religious" parents), she maybe asked Steph not to tell them either. I can only go by the story the writers are making up about her parents at this time.
At any rate, it's Morgan's responsibility to tell her own parents. She may have been 17 at the time but she wasn't a baby... at some point she has to take responsibility for her own actions. And she's now a grown woman and def has to take responsibility for her behaviour now.
@@TriniT21 I can get that it might be difficult for a pregnant minor to tell her parents about a pregnancy, especially if they have strong convictions (no abortion, no underage sex, focus on your career....). Adult Felicia never told her mother about her cancer or her baby because they never had that much of a relationship, but as an adult that is her choice.
IMO, as long as a legal minor is involved, the parents shouldn't get cut out of decision-making, when you then expect them to deal with the consequences (the traumatized daughter) in any case.
Stephanie might have felt the need to protect her son, but Morgan's parents too might have wanted to protect their daughter from a decision that might affect her whole life and that she might always regret.
That chance has been taken from them.
And Morgan turned into a troubled woman that after decades still regretted that abortion and felt that she should have had that baby and raise it (and later a troubled Morgan twice tries to turn back time by recreating that pregnancy and decision making).
Back to his normal arrogant posturing, Eric dismissing his wife. He reluctantly appeases Stephanie by saying he’ll keep his guard up. As usual, Ridge’s mother knows best.
To the background music department: stop with the violins under Brooke and Morgan speeches... It is so annoying
“Stephanie didn’t give a damn about me or the baby” uhh neither did ridge. Funny how their both holding each other blameless for their part in it and instead rather blame Steph for it. Ridge not holding her responsible for not telling him she’s pregnant and about the abortion and instead angry with Steph for HIM choosing to sleep with a child. Morgan for being angry with Steph for her herself not going to ridge first and telling him she’s pregnant first or her parents.
Morgan reminds me of Dren from the movie Splice.
I had to look this up and now I can't stop laughing! 🤣🤣🤣
@@NewYorkNick0607😆 Dren is a genetically engineered hybrid creature/human who starts as a fe male and evolves into male . Morgan’s storyline should have had a similar plot! 😜
@@Esi-741 I screamed when I saw the Goo g l e images! 😆
@@NewYorkNick0607😂😂😂 Actually I just looked too and I’m cracking up.
@@Esi-741 BTW I was in your state for Coachella this weekend and I felt like I saw a few "genetically engineered hybrid creatures" at the festival. 😂
The kettle can't badmouth the pot because Morgan don't give a damn about Ridge's wife Dr. Taylor Forrester and their three babies waiting for Ridge at home. Ridge should of told Morgan after you left I experienced an a mazing real love with Mrs. Caroline Spencer Forrester my first wife, she died from leukemia, then I fell in love with my second wife Dr. Taylor Forrester. Morgan what happen to you happened over twenty years ago, and it don't fit into a life with me or my mother's company so why did you take the job offer from Brooke? Ridge got a lot to learn. He can't gently touch a woman hair and then kiss her on the forehead because the woman is receiving it as a sex invitation instead of understanding caring for their pain from a friend perspective.
Amen to that👍🏻🙏🏻
Seeing Stephanie's look at the end, you know what she's going to do next.
You know what? I am so tired of people acting as if Thorne nor Ridge can't think for themselves. Ridge is the one that kept pushing and hounding Morgan about why she left. He knocked her up. Stephanie act as if any woman she doesn't approve of are forcing Thorne and Ridge to make teh choices they make
where is episode 2120??????
Given the circumstances, it was kind of strange that Sally decided that she and Clarke should suddenly leave the party. She could see that something was not right with Macy, and instead of asking her about it, she assumed that Macy was just tired, and made sure the party ended so her daughter could get some rest.
Maybe it's like when Stephanie was not involved in Thorne's 1995 storyline - she would have made too much sense and the situation would have been resolved too easily and with no drama. Sally is Macy's most reliable support system and in order for this storyline to work, Macy needs to be more vulnerable than she would have been if Sally had been more closely involved in Macy's life.
I was just making a similar comment in relation to the previous episode. Kimberly has to be the one Macy confides in because it begins to position Kimberly in her future role in the triangle that is eventually established between her, Brooke and Thorne. It's about plot, rather than character. If the storyline was true to the characters themselves, Sally probably would have stayed and been there for Macy, or at least attempted to ask her what was wrong.
@@leviaj1 yes, I just saw your comment too! We had the same thought! 😊
@@annieo6527 indeed😊
It's so meta that what is upsetting Macy is the actual "double narrative" that I have been talking about. Suddenly she is beginning to see _both_ "realities" and she (like the viewer) doesn't know what to make of it, and is doubting which narrative is actually real.
In fact, it is not Thorne's feelings for Brooke that will ultimately drive Macy to drink, it's _Macy's_ feelings about her role in the conflicting narratives.
And I wrote a post under one of yours about the new triangle. I made a comparison between this triangle and the one during Tridge's first marriage.Macy's inner conflict and her ad diction make the SL compelling for us as also Bridget caused inner conflicts to Taylor. But of course BE is a more talented actress. It is a shame they didn't make Macy win this time. There were all the ingredients for a great happy ending.
@@babs4848 yes, I just saw your reply to that post and I think you have a great point! Macy and Thorne could have made it work in this situation if they had just been open with each other about their feelings, like Ridge and Taylor were during their first marriage. I wrote a post about how Thorne's infatuation with Brooke can actually be compared to Macy's alcoholism and how this really needs to be deal with because Thorne doesn't _recognize_ the unhealthy nature of his feelings for Brooke. He just recognize how _healthy_ he feels with Macy in Brooke's absence (like in the scene before the barbecue).
And, in fact, there _is_ a kind of happy ending for Thorne and Macy in this storyline, only it's very delayed and very short-lived.
@@annieo6527 loved your post about Thorne s unaware addi ction😄. The writers often recycled storylines, this could have been better structured as the Tridge's one, in Macy and Thorne favour of course because they are the couple and have to defended. So it is even more frustrating watching all this mess that will have any happy couple because Brooke and Thorne won't last.
First time Kimberly is trying to support someone other than herself. Macy & Kimberly have a good sisters relationship❤. Macy should listen to Kimberly, Kimberly is making sense❤
Could Kimberly be ANY more hotter ???❤❤❤❤
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Ridge is still stunned by his mother's role in Morgan's abortion and the fact that she kept it secret all these years. When Thorne asks Rick how his mother's doing, Rick realizes Brooke must be feeling pretty left out and lonely. Macy tries to make sense of the conversation she heard between Eric and Ridge, and starts to wonder if they could be right. Kimberly thinks Macy must have misunderstood them. Macy is somewhat reassured when Thorne embraces her and tells Macy that he loves her. Stephanie doesn't think they should underestimate Morgan's capacity to make trouble, but Eric can't understand why Stephanie is so concerned about Morgan's past relationship with Ridge. Morgan cries in Ridge's arms. She tells him that it's a relief to finally have their secret out in the open. She knows he would have been a wonderful father to their child. Ridge appreciates her honesty. Stephanie calls and accuses Morgan of telling Ridge to get revenge on her. Stephanie warns Morgan to stay away from Ridge, but Morgan insists that she's calling the shots this time. After all these years, Stephanie is going to pay for her mistake.
The rigde and Morgan sl still makes no damn sense.
Rigde was an unresponsible, selfish, arrogant and disrepectful womaizer. He literally has jumped from bed to bed than. He was so pissed at Brooke for getting pregant when he was almost 30 years old. But the writers want to convince us, he would have been happy when his teenage girlfriend years prior was pregant and he would have known.
BS. Complete bs.
Morgan is instabil and she was it than.
Nobody pressured her in not telling rigde or having an abortion.
When you have to keep interfering with your stupid older son and making sure that he doesn't get tempted for a way from his marriage. Then there's tells you, there's something really wrong with him
It's _very_ subtle, but here we see that Kimberly is actually unintentionally playing a part in Macy's destruction.
When Macy first overhears the conversation between Eric and Ridge, her initial reaction is a healthy one - she wants to know the truth, in fact, she almost asks Thorne about it. Then she talks to Kimberly, and Kimberly reassures her that she has nothing to worry about, and tells her to forget about the whole thing. And Macy takes her advice and stops asking the right questions, instead keeping her worries bottled up inside where they actually cause _more_ damage than if Macy had dealt with them openly. At the end of the episode, even as Thorne holds Macy and tells her he loves her, you can see that her peace of mind is gone. And as well-meaning as Kimberly's advice is, it doesn't take this into account. Macy _can't_ unhear what she heard.
I see what you're saying but isn't the real problem that Macy _doesn't_ take Kimberly's advice? What makes this situation interesting is the double narrative you've identified and (as @Esi) said in another episode, Thorne actually does love Macy. This isn't a situation where a man married a woman he doesn't love or isn't deeply connected to. Maybe Macy wasn't his first choice this time, but they do have a history and it's not crazy to think that things could've worked out for them if Macy had suppressed those doubts and what she heard on the phone. If she'd taken Kimberly's advice and just put that all behind her, Thorne could've stayed committed to her especially with Brooke finally accepting their marriage. Isn't it Macy _not_ taking that advice that leads to tragedy?
I can see your point.
I guess what's most interesting to me, is that Kimberly of all ppl, is giving relationship advice at all...
She has the least experience and just spent most of her time on the show chummy with Brooke and trying to break up a marriage herself.
Also even though Kimberly knows Macy is an alcoholic she may not realize what stress could do to an alcoholic.Also Kimberly once again might be showing her youth and naivete regarding her advice to Macy.For example i think Sally with her experience in life might have advised Macy to talk to Thorne,
@@NewYorkNick0607 this _also_ is ambiguous (like everything else in this storyline). Macy does try to suppress her doubts, and Thorne does love her. But at the same time, Thorne continues to be tempted by Brooke, so that Macy's doubts _aren't actually unfounded._ And it seems at this point that Brooke does accept the marriage, but that acceptance is ambiguous, too.
So the question is whether the "prophesy" of Macy's doubts is self-fulfilling or not.
@@aph1976 yes, I think so too. Sally would have known what to do. Kimberly doesn't really know this side of Macy.
It's so unforgivable that they never let Ford and Macy. Have a happy edging together. It instead had him hook up with all his sister in laws gross
Macy knew that Thorne had feelings for Brooke. She shouldn't have accepted to marry him in such a hurry...it was evident that he was devastated for something when she found him in Venice.
Stephanie as always manipulate the truth
I cant stand how all these passionate Spectra actors have been treated by the show. Losing storylines and written off the show one by one. 😭I love KKL and her range as an actress, but there where more capable actors on this show.
thank God Macy is reasnable again she should held to her marriage and never let a home wreckor like Brooke come between her and her husband
I don’t think this show gives Morgan the credit she is due for being the first woman to carry Ridge’s child. We always remember Brooke’s miscarriage but I think this might be the first and only abortion storyline on this show that actually went through (I know Stephanie tried to pull the same mess with Brooke).
Why didn’t Morgan turn to her parents for support? 😮
Why do the writers do this?
boldandbeautiful, You're fantastic! Let's be friends and have fun!
Yes, it's amazing that we are getting to see these old seasons!😊