Behringer TORO Bass Synthesizer Review
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- Review of the Behringer TORO Bass Synthesizer. A replica of the Moog Taurus Mk1, released in 1976. If you can't do anything with Genesis and other prog rock like I do, you've come to the right place! Here comes a simple technoid demo for people of today! No Arpeggio? No Techno! 🤖
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00:00 - Start
01:01 - Intro
02:31 - Synth Details
02:42 - Presets
04:02 - Variable Mode
04:15 - Oscillators & Tuning
04:56 - Filter
05:31 - Envelopes
07:45 - Demo Beat
08:55 - Fazit
11:12 - Final Demo
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Review of the Behringer TORO Bass Synthesizer. A replica of the Moog Taurus Mk1, released in 1976. If you can't do anything with Genesis and other prog rock like I do, you've come to the right place! Here comes a simple technoid demo for people of today! No Arpeggio? No Techno! 🤖
If you like it, buy it here (Affiliate-Link):
thmn.to/thoprod/565552?partner_id=51772
Better if it had the pedals.
What's a Taurus replica without pedals
Taurus 1 was introduced in 1975. I have 4 in mint condition. 1975, 1978, 1979, and 1981. They have yellow tags inside that have the date on them. Sounds great. Makes financial sense.
This is the first video of yours that I’ve just now watched, and I’m absolutely subscribing. Really enjoy your approach to the “demo” aspect of the video. And your music in this video is awesome. Peace!
Love your review and your calm, concise approach. Simplicity is the beauty of this instrument. As a singer and keyboard player in a live band there is not a lot of time to program different sounds, so this sort of machine is a godsend. In another life I played about 4 gigs a week throughout England, at the time there was no such thing as a preset synth, when I finally got a Korg 700s it solved a lot of problems for very little money, though I remember people saying it was a toy and not sophisticated enough.
It certainly sounds good, if I didn’t have the Moog Minitaur I’d be tempted but the Minitaur with the software editor and preset functionality is brilliant. I’d be tempted if they made it with the floor pedals.
I really like its simplicity, and I'm thinking of getting one to pair with my Behringer Solina. 1970s synth heaven!
.....use it with a bass station 2
I hope people realize that the original Taurus was supposed to be a simple way to get bass synth by stomping on these gigantic heavy steel/plastic pedals that were part of the setup. I owned both versions through the nineties and used it when playing a poly synth or rhodes over the top. That’s why it’s a limited (but wicked) bass machine. It’s a tribute to that Moog product in an affordable offering.
Wenn ich mal wieder in Berlin bin, dann muss ich euch mal besuchen! Toller Sender! Ich mag einfache Geräte, deshalb ist der Toro echt interessant.
Another great video demo. I think I'll have some Riesling and play my synths. Prost!
Great demo
Thanks! TORO sounds really good.
schönes Teil.... wieder ein Quell von Inspirationen 😀 Danke für das schöne Video 🍀
Herzlichen Dank 😊🤖
Danke für die Vorführung. Der Toro klingt wirklich super. 👍👍👍
You make a good point regarding "instant moog bass". just like the taurus: simple enough for a guitar player to understand. Regarding effect pedals, I assume that a zoom ms70(or 50) is mandatory for any synth owner. I decided that strymon was too expensive so I got 2 ehx pedals for the same money. A grand canyon delay and an oceans12 dual reverb. Infinite sound combinations. I also use my lexicon rack effects. You should mention those. I also have a fender Greta baby tube amp that I modded so I could switch the speaker out for a silent dummy resistor. This becomes a 12ax7 tube overdrive pedal. Real tubes and other analog distortion/drive effects are what I like. Digital is ok for most time and pitch based effects but when I use fuzz/dist its boss HM2 dist or BAT Pharoah Supreme fuzz, or Greta...HOWDAREYOU! .
The Zoom MS50 and MS70 are great, affordable pedals that adds nice flavours to the sounds of any mono or poly synth!
So that expander is for guitarist... 😺🐶🌜👍..With guitarist effect pedals, fine!
Good decicions
Another amazing synth review! But where is the wine? That's something we can drink to!
Oh no, just bought the pro800 and now this kick ass fat bass machine.
I would be very interested in a comparison between this TORO and the MINITAUR.
Knowing that the later is twice the price.
Überprüfen Sie den Pro800 mit Eventide h90. Und was können Sie über Onkel Ulis Kopie von OBERHEIM sagen, die in einem tastaturlosen Format angekündigt wurde? Und danke für die
I do not want the Toro, but could listen to your track for hours
So you also like Arpeggios? 🤩 Can do this for hours! 🤖
I use a Yamaha SPX 90 II on synths, (behringer model D mostly) for distortion a boss DS1 in parallel using a Boss LS2 line mixer pedal. Also really like using a made in Japan BF2 flanger.
Ah! Cool! Yamahas like the Spx-90 have great reverbs for Drums! There is gated reverb from the Yam REV-7 on the claps and snares in my demo! 🤖
The tuning knob is set at 5 (ish) to be on tune in case it drifts up or down.
Wouldn't be much use if it had drifted up, and 'neutral' was 0.
The knob and tuning works perfectly! The labeling just doesn‘t make sense! 🤖
@@winesynths They just copied how Moog did it on the OG. Admittedly it would make more sense if 12 o'clock was labelled as 0, but it's a recreation, so they stuck to the original quirks.
@@Gainn Ahhh! Ok! 😁 It also came out of the box with the tuning on „0“! So for me it had to be like this! 🫣 Until I tried to play to another synth! 😱 And then I took the tuna! 🐟🤖
Sehr interessant, nur eine Hand voll Regler, aber egal was man einstellt, der scheint immer gut zu klingen. Erinnert mich etwas an den Prodigy, der hat auch nur wenige Parameter mit unzerstörbarem Sound. 😊
@@michaelgross9654 ja genau! Die Einfachheit macht hier den Reiz!
This sounds really good! For some reason, I didn't expect to want this one.🤷♂️
This kind of reminds me of the early 90s, when companies started to cash in on the gathering desire for 303s - the Control Synthesis Deep Bass 9, the FAT Freebass 383, even the Doepfer 404 was part of the fad for simple 1-osc monosynths. Even though back then you wouldn't pay over £300 for a genuine TB, and these synths were no cheaper and not very much like the real thing... But, I guess if this thing ticks someone's boxes, it'll find a niche. Simplicity can be a really useful thing.
You are right! We were talking about this while editing! The 303 clones were all labeled ass bass synths but never really delivered real fat & deep bass! The Bassstation 1 was even kind of a „bass free“ bass synth! The Doepfer was acceptable. And also a new TD-3 is not what you would like to have for a bass like the one on a Moog. And here I have to say, that the Toro is great! 👍
In all fairness, nobody's buying a 303 to use as a Bass synthesizer. The only reason those clone synths had bass in their title was simply a nod to the 'Bass Line' on the original TB-303. It did seem pretty disingenuous at the time thought. They should've labelled them somewhere along the lines of an acid ostinato synthesizer.
The reviewer is not really using it as intended. The Moog Taurus pedals were designed to play deep bass lines by a guitar player with his feet. Think of the slow deep bass in The Police song “Don’t Stand So Close To Me”.
This Awesome🎶✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️thxsomuch
I have scratched my head over this one since they day it was announced. The far more interesting Cat or K-2 can be had for $50 less while for $50 more you get a Pro 1 or Model D which definitely covers this whole territory. (The filter is NOT unique to it) None of that stops it from making some great sounds and I guess there is something to be said for being absolutely dead simple to use?
For what I know about the Moog Taurus, it wasn't the filter to be unique, but the waveforms, which were said to be saturated and gave it its charateristic sound (which was different than the MiniMoog sawtooth).
@@wonderwheel80s I would be surprised if pushing the Model D filter with input on (but not patched) to where it is just starting to overload did not produce the same effect as the inherently clipped saws of the Toro. Of course, I have been surprised plenty of times before, so maybe... It is dead simple to use - especially if you just push a preset. Model D is pretty darn straightforward too though so I still wonder a bit at why one would get this instead or in addition to it.
The beating doesn't change with pitch.
So the real question is: how does it compare to Moog Minitaur?
I always thought the Taurus would also sound different to the bass of a minimoog? Retrosounds videos at least ggie a hint on that as well. But here it really sounded like the Behringer Model D. So I wonder when I have that, is there anything the Toro can do which the Bodel D can't`
The Toro doesn't sound like the Taurus either. It also lacks the static bass foundation of the linear VCOs.
@@retrosound72 What does linear VCOs mean?
It would be great to make a 1 to 1 comparison! But I don‘t have any possibility to get a OG Taurus! 🍀
@@torbenanschau6641 linear VCOs ensure that there is no phase cancellation as with exponential VCOs as they were installed in the Minimoog and in all other analog synthesizers. With the Taurus, the bass always remains stable, even if the VCOs are detuned to each other. Unfortunately, that was also the case with the Taurus 3.
@@retrosound72 I still don't get what it means technically. An Oscillator oscillates at controllable frequencies, the waveshaper after that controlls the waveshape. The signal goes to the mixer. Where is it exponentially or linear?
That Polysource Behringer showed off really got my attention. The Source was supposed to be the Minimoog of the 80's. I'm guessing it's one voice of the Memorymoog, so I guess the Polysource is basically a Memorymoog?
Interesting theory! 🤖
the is already a "polysource" , a polyphonic version of the source, and when many source are gathered it gives " The River" from Baloran, a French artisan, then it is in limited number, and for sure more expensive than the polysource.
@@jean-louispech4921 Didn't know what that one. Thanks.
I don't think so. A voice of the Memorymoog shoud have 3 VCOs, and Source had only 2.
@@wonderwheel80s I can live with 2.
Un français qui parle anglais avec un accent allemand !
Bravo.
Ça me démange depuis longtemps de faire une vidéo avec l'accent franglais ! The véritable French Voice Reveal !! 🥳🇫🇷
Does it hold the tuning well?
Yes absolutely! No problems there. Just make sure to put the tune knob to „5“! 😁
Toller Sound :) kann ich den track kaufen bitte ? GLG und mach weiter so ...
Guck mal bei Bandcamp nach dem Label Drehstrom! 😉
I bet we will start seeing a range of cheap synths from Moog, in future.
Moog is too famous.
Their price is crazy.
I have Neutron and Model D.
✌🏻
Great video! Thing sounds great for the price,who could deny it? 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
Very great sound friend. Ho
Hi the sound wow envelope e filter il wonderful. Thanx
The waveforms are fixed?
Yes. Just one waveform. Sawtooth.
@@winesynths thanks!
Great video. I will be getting this, but I'll wait for it to hit the used market for half the price.
Nice simple unit, a little bit over priced for what you get and although it has 'that' sound if you are really that budget conscious I might go for something just a little more flexible.
I will get this and use a Keith McMillin 12 Step to control it. I can tweak it with my toes. 😁
But can the Poly D get that sound?
I hope so! 🤖
Yeah of course 😊
@@Rsonixtunes excellent. Don't need to get the Toro then.
Why buy it ? Great video though. In my county these are $600 ,and other than the nostalgic feeling one gets from these clones ,you could buy something more modern that will do the same thing and more ...........I'm just trying to talk myself out of buying one 😀
Where are you from that it is so expensive? Antarctica? Desert Island? Or is it more a question of taxes? 🤔
Comme tu dis🤗🙏💚🧡👍
Yeah sounds good but why not just get a Model D? Wine in a plastic litre bottle for me this one!
Same reason why someone looking to get a Moog Minitaur wouldn't necessarily gravitate towards a Roland SE-02 (based on the Model D)- they sound different. The Toro is a Taurus clone, not a Model D clone. Different circuitry.
@@Claidheambmor No I think one could get the same sounds with the D. The whole point of the Taurus was the foot pedal arrangement not the sound.
I was wondering the same thing. For the money, I feel like the D could do the same thing (or very similar) as the Taurus with the added benefit of more octaves, etc.
@@dimensionalbleedthrough2040 Yes I agree. The D goes plenty deep and has 3 oscillators so should do even fatter basslines!
It's partly a 'completist' synth IMO. People will buy it because it's a clone of something extremely rare.
Привет! А мне нравится этот синт !
this thing has some serious fat ass bass!
I wish you didn't have to use MIDI and you could just use it as a stomp box with your bass. That would be the best and easiest setup.
Guitar to Midi Converter?
@@winesynths Would that work and track well ?
It wouldn't have cost much more to attach a small keyboard onto it.IMO
Footbass > Football
🎱?
FootFoot > baseball ?
@@Rompler_Rocco BAZBALL
Mmmmm...not feeling it. I recall the original Taurus (and the II, but to a lesser extent) had a "grittier" sound, especially on hard attacks. Probably was a bit of overshoot with the attack's initial peak driving the VCA a bit too hard, sort of like the situation with the Roland Jupiter-4 and how the overdrive on that (deliberately implemented) was integral to its sound. Losing that tiny "crunch" really dampens the definition of those notes...the percussive punch on attack doesn't seem to be present here.
Frankly, when I saw that this was next in Uli's pipeline, I was pretty underwhelmed. One could easily argue that B. did this one solely for the money that would flow from the Moog "cachet", but the sonic shortcomings seemed fairly obvious...even with YT's audio compression. What I (and probably a ton of recent B.2600 purchasers) was waiting for was the matching 1601 clone, which Behringer announced around the same general time that the 2600 clone hit the shelves. Considering that Uli's team NAILED the 2600 reissue and for a fraction of Korg's you-ain't-getting-one version (not EVEN close with the 2600M, frankly; having the full keyboard module in B's version should be a total game changer). I've said before that the B.2600 sounds very much like a brand-new rev.4 from the end of the 1970s, and I still stand by that assessment. So why not complete the system, hmm?
This also makes me more than a little concerned about Uli's Sound Easel clone. With that, there's going to be trouble if they can't get all that vactrol circuitry of Don's functioning as expected. And shanking the shot on the Toro's envelope/VCA situation doesn't bode well if Behringer opts to ignore details on that reissue...whenever Uli opts to finally fish or cut bait.
Arturias easel sounded like ASS. If you'll excuse me.
Clint Eastwood just bought it for a fistful of dollars
To do list:
a) get Toro - check!
b) get that Biite 8 Bit! T-Shirt - unchecked!!!!!
Wo zur Hölle gibts das? Ist Sahne!
Searched the Web w/o avail!
Wine$Synths plz help!!!
Leider hat Spreadshirt das Motiv aus Copyrightgründen gelöscht! 😢
can this do anything that a model D can't do? doesn't sound like it can
I don‘t have a model D to compare yet! Sorry! Just a Matriarch with 4 real Moog oscillators.
I see covers of the Cure coming
Pedals?
Take a bike! 🚲 🤖
@@winesynths incomplete need pedals . Not like you I only have two hands , but I have two free feet that could push pedals