The reason for the extended Portra family was really because it came at an awkward time where digital scanning wasn't really a thing but also DSLRs were up and coming. NC, VC, & UC only really differ during color printing. Modern portra was optimized for digital scanning so the weird Portra variants weren't really needed anymore.
Hi! I really enjoy watching your videos! and I wonder what it would look like if you trichrome a colour film and process it in colour, bring the scans in Photoshop and blend them! Please keep torturing the films!! 😀
Gotta stop being humble my man, I would not consider this a waste of film, in fact I think shooting this as a straight B&W film would be a waste. Thought this was some of your best trichomes imo. Keep on trucking
I'm very confident this film is really just bw400 cn under a different label- I cross processed a roll of bwcn and it looks pretty similar. Now... you have to go track down Kodak's original c41 bw emulsion and cross process it- that one's easily got the best "colors"
I shot portra 400 BW in 35 a couple months ago and I loved it! A lot grainier than the 120 film you had, but maybe that was condition. I still have another roll and I might try some Tri chromes
Kodak should bring back their Chromogenic B&W stocks, they do look potentially less grainy than box speed XP2 does. That being said, XP2's party trick of being fine being brutalised by overexposing it at ISO 50 and then underexposing it to ISO 800 on the same roll and looking fine in both cases is great fun.
If it's just standard C41 development I usually send it to a lab. But if it's any oddball development like bleach bypass or push/pull I'll usually use either Fuji Hunt or Cinestill kits.
Quite certain BW400CN and Portra 400BW where the same stock, or really close. Used it a lot when I worked at a lab, the convenience of having access to C41 processing and a Fuji Frontier for scanning have been missed. A lot. Worked well with Leitz 28mm elmarit M v3 the year I only had one lens for my M6. compared to XP2 it gave more box speed, to get similar grain the XP2 had to be exposed at 200. Nothing beats being a broke student because a great purchase. Those where the days ;)
God only knows why Kodak put the orange mask on their chromogenic B&W films. It really cramps their versatility. Ilford XP2 has a clear base and cross processes beautifully in E6
I’ve never heard of Portra 400 BW, but I’m surprised that it has the mock orange mask because it was a professional film. Here in the UK Kodak sold two black and white chromogenic films, T400CN and Black & White + 400. They were available at the same time. I have a box of each in front of me at the moment, as well as some processed negatives on each. I bought a few rolls of each to try when they came out. The T400CN is labelled as a professional product, it has a clear base and was intended for darkroom printing on conventional black and white paper while theBlack & White + 400 was a consumer product intended for processing in high street mini labs and printing on colour paper. When this film was introduced many mini lab printers had not been calibrated for black and white films, and tended to produce prints with odd colour casts. The mock orange mask was intended to improve this. Fuji did sell a black and white chromogenic film at one time, but I think this was made for them, probably by Ilford or Harman. When Ilford first introduced XP1 they made a dedicated processing kit for it, but said that it could also be processed in C-41. This didn’t last long, and they then just labelled it as process C-41.
Hey man you should try making some chemographs or chemographs I found one at a thrift shop and had to figure out wtf it was and once I did it seemed something you might be into
The film torturer returns
“The Dark Lord is back”
Today's going to be a good day
The reason for the extended Portra family was really because it came at an awkward time where digital scanning wasn't really a thing but also DSLRs were up and coming. NC, VC, & UC only really differ during color printing. Modern portra was optimized for digital scanning so the weird Portra variants weren't really needed anymore.
this channel continues to amaze me with the weird and wonderful things you can do with film. can't wait to see what else you are doing in the future~
I wonder how effective running some film through a movie camera would be in “spooky” mode?
I swear, I just love this channel.
Could you take a small sample of the tail of the roll and do a densitometry test on it to redetermine the exposure offset?
That's an interesting idea, I've never thought about doing that.
Hi! I really enjoy watching your videos!
and I wonder what it would look like if you trichrome a colour film and process it in colour, bring the scans in Photoshop and blend them!
Please keep torturing the films!! 😀
I've done it before and there are some weird nuances to it. It might be worth exploring further. Thanks for the suggestion!
love your videos, you're the reason i quit film photography
1:17 is a sick photo. You gotta print that man.
"unfortunately it's a little expired"
*Instagram users want to know your location*
Gotta stop being humble my man, I would not consider this a waste of film, in fact I think shooting this as a straight B&W film would be a waste. Thought this was some of your best trichomes imo. Keep on trucking
I'm very confident this film is really just bw400 cn under a different label- I cross processed a roll of bwcn and it looks pretty similar.
Now... you have to go track down Kodak's original c41 bw emulsion and cross process it- that one's easily got the best "colors"
The real question is, does the grain look better with it done in E-6?
Love the video. My first Holga negs were Portra 400BW, feeling nostalgic. 😅
Nice!
I enjoy your experiments!
Keep up the good work!
Look if several rolls of portrait in varying shades is the cost of hearing you talk about film again, I think it's a pretty good trade
Bet kodak is just snoting them aerochrome dust the old machines left behind and forgot they were running a business
I shot portra 400 BW in 35 a couple months ago and I loved it! A lot grainier than the 120 film you had, but maybe that was condition. I still have another roll and I might try some Tri chromes
I had the same experience with grain on 35
i've already binged all of your content, we need more..
Kodak should bring back their Chromogenic B&W stocks, they do look potentially less grainy than box speed XP2 does. That being said, XP2's party trick of being fine being brutalised by overexposing it at ISO 50 and then underexposing it to ISO 800 on the same roll and looking fine in both cases is great fun.
Cool. Keep pushing!
What c41 chemicals do you use?
If it's just standard C41 development I usually send it to a lab. But if it's any oddball development like bleach bypass or push/pull I'll usually use either Fuji Hunt or Cinestill kits.
Quite certain BW400CN and Portra 400BW where the same stock, or really close. Used it a lot when I worked at a lab, the convenience of having access to C41 processing and a Fuji Frontier for scanning have been missed. A lot. Worked well with Leitz 28mm elmarit M v3 the year I only had one lens for my M6. compared to XP2 it gave more box speed, to get similar grain the XP2 had to be exposed at 200. Nothing beats being a broke student because a great purchase. Those where the days ;)
God only knows why Kodak put the orange mask on their chromogenic B&W films. It really cramps their versatility. Ilford XP2 has a clear base and cross processes beautifully in E6
I’ve never heard of Portra 400 BW, but I’m surprised that it has the mock orange mask because it was a professional film. Here in the UK Kodak sold two black and white chromogenic films, T400CN and Black & White + 400. They were available at the same time. I have a box of each in front of me at the moment, as well as some processed negatives on each. I bought a few rolls of each to try when they came out. The T400CN is labelled as a professional product, it has a clear base and was intended for darkroom printing on conventional black and white paper while theBlack & White + 400 was a consumer product intended for processing in high street mini labs and printing on colour paper. When this film was introduced many mini lab printers had not been calibrated for black and white films, and tended to produce prints with odd colour casts. The mock orange mask was intended to improve this.
Fuji did sell a black and white chromogenic film at one time, but I think this was made for them, probably by Ilford or Harman.
When Ilford first introduced XP1 they made a dedicated processing kit for it, but said that it could also be processed in C-41. This didn’t last long, and they then just labelled it as process C-41.
Yesss!! Another upload! Absolutely love these videos dude.
Do you have a Instagram? Would love to shoot you a follow
It's in the description :)
@atticdarkroom although I don't post much
Didn’t waste anything! I loved the bridge, and the street corner with the modern skyscraper in the back round was like a realized Epcot imagination.
Have you had any success trying other filters for trichrome work? Or even trying lighting gels instead?
100T is not a freak, it's just missunderstood. (I say this but still haven't touched the two boxes of 100T I have in my freezer)
Hey man you should try making some chemographs or chemographs I found one at a thrift shop and had to figure out wtf it was and once I did it seemed something you might be into
you should have done the trichrome E6 cross process
I have two of these left on me too. There is also Portra 400UC (red package) which is insanely hard to find.
I prefer BW400CN to 400BW.
Interesting video (y)
would definitely not call this a waste of film, this was really interesting (like literally all of your vids)
I'm new to film photography, so sorry if this is a stupid question, but what if you bleach-bypassed this film? 😳
What lightbox do you use?
An A2 light table off of ebay
all of this is completely insane, i love it
Oh hell yeah
I've never understood the point of black and white film meant to be developed in color chemistry