Why Fire Engines and Firefighters Respond to Medical Calls
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- The Lakeland Fire Department responded to over 24,000 calls for service in 2016, of which 76% were related to medical emergencies.
Often, Lakeland’s fire engines are dispatched to medical emergency calls and a common question for the department from citizens is:
“Why did they send a fire engine to a medical call? Shouldn’t an ambulance have been sent instead?”
For those unfamiliar with emergency response, fire suppression needs, and how different public safety agencies work together, this could be a perplexing issue.
In response to those concerns, the Lakeland Fire Department has produced a brief educational video production to create better awareness and understating of why LFD, like many other fire departments across the nation, sends a fire engine to a medical call and the circumstances that lead to that.
There are several reasons:
LFD’s Rescue Trucks, manned by two crew members, are often sent out first; particularly to medical emergency calls. However, when those units are out of service providing help to others, fire engines and their crews are sent to provide help to other emergency calls. This allows help to arrive sooner, as sending another unit, even if it is another rescue truck, can take longer because it is coming from a further distance outside its zone.
Fire engines are manned by at least three person crews, but often four crew members when staffing needs are met. All LFD Firefighters are also Emergency Medical Technicians or Paramedics. This means there will be more highly skilled help on scene, faster.
When a 911 call comes in, dispatchers are not often given precise or complete information. As such, units are dispatched on a worst-case scenario. To ensure the highest level of care, LFD sends the closest fire engine when a two-man rescue truck is not available.
No medical call is “routine.” Most require assessing the patient, obtaining their vital signs, providing oxygen therapy, and moving them, at a minimum. Crews may also need to place an advanced airway, administer medication intravenously, or monitor cardiac conditions. All of these procedures are completed more efficiently when the appropriate amount of help is on scene. Efficient and effective care is our goal, and that level of care is often the difference between life and death.
The Lakeland Fire Department does not provide medical transport, as an Advanced Life Support Non-Transport Fire Department. By sending a fire engine, medical help can get there much sooner versus waiting for the nearest ambulance. Ambulances are often busy throughout the county and unable to arrive as quickly as LFD’s responders can, as LFD’s apparatus are strategically located throughout the City of Lakeland out of seven nearby fire stations. When emergencies happen, LFD crews can begin lifesaving care and prepare patients for transport when needed, so that when an ambulance does arrive, the patient is ready to be transported to the nearest hospital.
Fire Engines are needed regardless if there is a medical emergency or not, for fire suppression. Rescue trucks alone cannot effectively fight fire. So by manning fire engines with trained emergency medical responders and equipping them with lifesaving equipment, the department is making the best use of its available resources.
The Lakeland Fire Department is always there for your when you need us most.
I had a panic attack once and the fire department came to check my heart and it was perfect!!
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How much did that cost? 300k?
My screen started to buffer after the question stopping him at "becuase we want to" 😂
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When you need help, I don't care if they come in PJs. These guys are the best. Thank you....we need you.
1969: "We will have flying cars in the future"
2021: "Why did they send a fire truck for a medical call?"
Call for an ambulance and it will be there within 5 minutes. But a cop or a fire engine who's already on the road could be on the scene within 10 seconds! Minutes might be too late for some people.
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That is a very good policy like it
Where we live it can be 20 minutes sometime before the ambulance arrives. Fire EMS within 5
Most firefighters are also cross trained as emts
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The paramedics and firemen deserve a lot of credit your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks to everyone who responds keep them safe out there job well done you should be proud love respect and appreciate you guys thanks terrific catch as usual way to go ! Joe
Generally interactions with a public complainant do NOT end that way...unfortunately!
No. You didn't want to hear what I was calling him over here!
It makes a response faster and if you don't get that you obviously aren't a first responder
tyler Crowley If I wasn't a first responder, how would I know that people complaining to first responders aren't usually this nice? If they're complaining it's usually not because they don't understand, it's because they have a burning desire to be a prick and are arguing with us to satisfy that desire.
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Firemen can treat a person if the person needs to be treated on scene. But if they need to go to the hospital then they can call for an ambulance.
Well that and typically we’re more readily available than an ambulance due to where stations are placed. Some ambulances may be tied up elsewhere at a location out of city limits or are coming back from a hospital and may take longer than usual getting on scene.
An ambulance isnt just for transporting someone ems is also treating them on thr way to the hospital
@Redrockett5817 yes, but my point was that if the person needed emergency transport, they can call the ambulance to do so.
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It's the same here in New Zealand because my town has a local news letter and the volunteer firefighters have a section and they say they respond to more car crashes and medical emergencies than fires.
Same here in my 30 or less town in the US. We only have an engine, brush, and command but we have 3 big cities within 15 minutes and lots of county in our district.
They are there when you need the paramedics and firemen deserve a lot of credit your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks to everyone who responds keep them safe out there job well done you should be proud appreciate you guys thanks ! Joe
Excellent Public Relations Clip !
Great job you guys for making this movie you guys are doing very great work.!'
Too all the emergency personal everywhere thank you and God bless you and keep you safe
I understand exactly why they send firetrucks. They are able to host more equipment and personnel. In addition, a call may come in as a medical related situation but there may be an additional need as assessed by the arriving unit(s). For instance, a person may call in saying they're having a heart attack and laying on the floor. What they may have failed to mention is that they were cooking which that situation would turn into a possible fire related call as well as medical. A medic or EMS may arrive for a medical call and find upon arrival that the house is on fire as a result. There have been instances where as persons calling in have become unconcious after calling 911.
In Arizona our Fire Departments run the EMS transport system, my local fire department runs ambulances for ALS transport (BLS is contracted through AMR).
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Hes actually thinking "I'll be back in 2 weeks if you dont lay off the icecream"
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Sometimes they are closer. They came to my aid with my 1 year old when she was chocking on something i was able to free her airway before I called i was home alone but still called her breathing seemed off still they were amazing! Holly Hill Fl.
These are the people we can trust. They are the ones who put themselves on the line to save lives, and that is how we respect someone as a hero!
Idc if what you said it’s poetry or not. you are very right they save lives and sacrifice their lives everyday to save someone even if how hard it is. These people are the true true saviors of lives accidents and now everything less and more.
The firemen and paramedics deserve alot of credit your service is deeply appreciated thanks keep them safe out there way to go ! Joe
Originally I am from Michigan so all of our firefighters are also paramedics and they transport. I moved to North Carolina ten years ago and was surprised to find most firefighters have no medical training and if there is a medical emergency you have to wait for county EMS to show up. It's a horrible system.
Here where I live in Michigan, most ambulances in my area (Metro Detroit) are owned by companies, so they are dispatched from hospitals instead of Rescue units, that would be dispatched from Fire Stations. I bet Michigan has a crapload more fire trucks than ambulances.
@@donniefleuryy.29 I am originally from Sterling Heights and the FD has ACLS equipped ambulances staffed by one Paramedic and two EMT's per ambulance and they transport to the hospital. Where I live now in North Carolina the firefighters have no medical training at all. We have county level EMS and so that is who responds and transports in NC. Overall I'm not a fan of private ems/ambulance companies doing the job meant for public safety officials. Private companies are all about the bottom line and not patient care. It would be like having private armed security guards going around acting like a Police officer. Just my view on the matter.
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It’s called a two tier EMS system
Its very understandable and not hard to get. Also my local fire department has a Ambulance. That quicker response time is a life safer, especially when the Ambulance company can't make it for like 10 mins, compared to the fire departments 2 or 3 mins. Every second counts. Plus life is more important then money.
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also alot of dept do not have an ambualnce but provied with county E.M.S and private agencies
What the lieutenant really wanted to say: "STFU and get off of my accident scene."
Also, the reason is obviously in case the patient suddenly combusts into flames.
What he really wanted to say, do you want carry her? No alright then get away from me.
He wanted to say: ok boomer
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Them putting the call out sound in the video had me thinking we actually got a call here 🤦🏼♂️😂
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My real question is
why did she call 911 after a jog
Possible heat stroke or a badly sprained muscle? Or maybe she was feeling very dizzy.
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@Derpey Slurpey OK
2:31 What Kind Of Vehicle Was That Plane Or A Minivan
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I always wondered how they got in and out of those trucks.
we all just gonna ignore how the firetruck had frickin steps that just flipped out when a door opened
Uh it’s so you can safely step in
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@@alexandersalarms5380 we don't need to know that and who cares
@@Idontknow46262 you’re opinion
1:15 Loves how the firefighter in red shirt pretends to write a note haha 😂
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Obviously, because it’s a derealization
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Proof that this is acted.
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You could totally see how that guy is reading the script just a the left of the guy he's talking too LOL. but anyways yes people really do ask questions like that in real life because they really don't understand everything that is involved and honestly you can't expect the general public to know everything that is involved. I was in the fire department for years when I was younger, and most paid firefighters are paramedics and EMTs as well. Even the volunteers are getting more and more training these years.
Thank you for doing this service
Also many times, actual EMTs get called to patients who weigh 400-600 pounds. Without the firefighters there they're not going to be able to move them to an ambulance.
2:51 Putting all your points into charisma:
When I was younger, I would have joked about how terrible the neighbor's acting was. Now I see their acting actually represents many people in today's society.
What I don't understand is why when we called for an ambulance when my son had a severe asthma attack and the inhaler and nebulizer wasn't working, they sent both an ambulance and a firetruck.
An ambulance usually only carries 2 people. When the ambulance is enroute it may take some time, that's why a firetruck is dispatched aswell. It provides care before the ambulance arrives and it provides extra manpower on the scene
be happy they answered the call
Also, don't be surprised if the police show up when you need medical help. They have CPR training, and they are often the first to arrive on scene because they are already out on the road, whereas the fire department and medics usually are not. My nextdoor neighbor would have died from a pulmonary embolism had it not been for the two police officers who performed CPR for the remaining five minutes it took for the fire and medic units to arrive. As any first responder will tell you, time is brain cells, so, they'll dispatch whoever closest to you.
When we get calls. Sometimes we have no clue what the call is about and even so when callers call in for 911 they have no clue what the pt is going through. So example a pt that had a syncopal episode what really happened. If the pt is in full arrest and u send an ambulance with a 2 man crew that’s going to be hard to work, the medics will be very busy and pt care is delayed. If u send the engine u have extra hands ready and if u don’t need them then send them back and let the medics handle it.
If y’all didn’t know, some firefighters are trained EMT’s... just putting that out there for future reference
Doing there jobs taking care of business they deserve alot of credit lets stop and honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen and police who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks don't work to hard appreciate you guys thanks you guys rock stay safe and warm out there great job great team work people you should be amazed and proud way to go ❤😂😂😅 !! Joe
I've always wondered this myself. Now I know why. Thank you, firefighters. :)
I already knew that firefighters always arrive at the scene first before ambulances do
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Well if the ambulance is on a previous call the Engine would be priority
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I think I already said this but some firefighters are trained EMT’s. 👌🏼
Emm Lew in my city every apparatus has a paramedic, and the rest of the firefighters are emts
I think it’s now a requirement to be an EMT before doing fire now.
Desert Nymph incorrect. Department by department. City by city. State by state. Everyone's different.
Zachary Dunn that’s why I said “I think” cuz that’s what I’ve been taught in EMT school and the fire stations I did ride alongs at said the same.
Desert Nymph Obviously we know you didn’t whoever you got told by doesn’t know what they are talking about.
It's not really a question of why firefighters are dispatched to an EMS call. In many municipalities, fire and EMS services are provided by the same agency anyway. The real point is why not have a higher ratio of transport ambulances in the fleet of trucks relative to firefighting apparatus? Since more 911 calls are EMS related as opposed to involving active fires, why does every firehouse need 3 fire trucks and 1 ambulance? Why not have 2 ambulances and 2 firetrucks instead?
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Because a fire requires more resources than a medical call does. Per NFPA standards, a residential working structure fire typically requires at least five suppression units and two command units. If it's a commercial fire or more alarms are requested, it could be much much more.
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The real answer is because fire stations are stationed in strategic locations around the city so we able to respond to any incident around the city in a certain period of time. So we are able to get the the patient a lot fast than the ambulance so when the ambulance arrives they can load and go if necessary
A lot of fire stations where I live have ambulances housed in the same location. I don't really know where non-fire station ambulances come in this scenario. My guess is they transport people in-between hospitals or from like a hospital to a care facility. But maybe they sometimes work with the local fire departments too.
As a former EMT myself, I worked for a privately owned ambulance service for many years, & worked along side with some great local firefighters & depts throughout the county. When there was a medical emergency, the fire dept for that area was also dispatched to respond, because in most cases they were actually much closer then we were & they were already on the scene caring for the patient or patients when we arrived. Our response time for the area of the county we covered with EMS service, was under 10-12 minutes. In most cases, the fire dept response time was under 5 minutes depending on the location. In a medical emergency, minutes can make a difference between life & death. That's why fire trucks are dispatched to medical calls. Most fire trucks carry EMS equipment aboard & it's also a requirement when joining a fire dept, you have to become a Certified EMT. So fire trucks are not just used to fight fires. Some depts do have Rescue or EMS vehicles that are strictly used for responding to medical calls, some don't & they have to rely on using a firetruck instead. Ambulances usually respond with only 2 people aboard, when a firetruck usually has 4. Depending on the type of emergency or situation, extra man power maybe needed assisting with patient care. Such as car accidents or cardiac arrests to help with performing CPR.
theapeman2004 I like your answer.i am a former volunteer fire fighter. We work hand in hand with ambulances and this goes back 40 years.
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pipesmoker, thank you for your service as a firefighter. I have the up most respect for volunteer firefighters. Most of the fire departments that I had the pleasure of working alongside with, were volunteer. Truly some amazing and dedicated people. My dad was also a volunteer firefighter/EMT for 23 years. That's how I became an EMT. I myself was a volunteer firefighter very briefly, but working aboard an ambulance was more of my calling instead. Most of the volunteer departments around here, now have fulltime paid firefighters and also provide paramedic ambulance service.
swiss point of view: you didn't have enough ambulance, here there will always have an ambulance available, if all the ambulance are gone of the station, an off duty paramedical team will be called to the station where there is an reserve ambulance, if this ambulance is deployed, an ambulance will be sent from another center to remplace it (even from another city/locality if needed), if this ambulance is deployed, will still have helicopter, but never heard about a case where they had to sent an helicopter because there isn't any ambulance available, but if it happen, it would probably be a crisis situation, in this case it is possible to deploy the civil protection and the army.
Love the answers... I had to call for medical assistance once with my wife, we got ambulance, squad, and engine response. I’m glad resources were available but seemed like over kill. It would also seem reasonable for those who come to respond to calls to move as if they are moving with a purpose! If you train with a purpose you will react to alarms and respond with a purpose. It used to be a hallmark of the fire services. Room for continuous improvement!
See, I agree with you, but more times than not EMS/Fire personnel will get “burned out” because they run so many medicals and a vast majority of them are non-life threatening, or shouldn’t be a medical call. I’m not saying I agree with it, I’m just saying that going on the 10th medical of the day for a non-life threatening injury when you were trying to eat you dinner isn’t the most exciting thing.
@Michael Cardaman Seems as if we are missing a step, like transferring the 911 call to a RN for further triage. Maybe they can filter the volume by suggesting that calls that meet a set of criteria only need to refer them to an Urgent Care/ER advising them their issue isn’t immediately life-threatening. Reminding them that paramedic and ambulance rides are not cheap and they can get the same care by taking themselves and waiting their turn??? Don’t know if this is a viable answer but a thought to help lower the volume of non-life-threatening calls.
William Write see, that requires additional resources (primarily money) that most areas don’t have to spare... not to mention that most dispatch centers are required to dispatch calls in a certain amount of time (usually 60 seconds from receiving the 911 call) and adding that step takes up precious time. Though those bs medicals suck, a decent amount of calls are serious and if you add that extra step that allows more time for the injury/illness to get worse leading to (in some cases) permanent injury/ disfigurement or death. Furthermore, from what I know (I’m not 100% sure) most if not all dispatchers have to be EMDs, meaning they have additional training to figure out the type and severity of the call. IMO, the issue is that there isn’t anyone else they can dispatch for a possible medical emergency that sounds like bs and they can’t not dispatch a possible medical, so they send EMS/Fire. That’s just my two cents based on my little experience.
@Michael Cardaman I certainly have no clue, just seems a waste to send grade A lifesavers when something or someone more appropriate could be sent due to a more thorough triage.
William Write I agree, the other issue is that all departments have a “frequent flier” (someone that calls 911 more often than they should for an issue that doesn’t require EMS/Fire or could be prevented so it doesn’t become a EMS/Fire issue). These people are usually elderly people that can’t take care of themselves. The issue they create could be solved by them going into assisted living/ nursing home or getting in home care, but often times they refuse. It’s an issue that is very difficult to fix and possibly will never be fixed.
If I hurt my toe sometime during the day is it OK to wait until 3 AM to call the ambulance for a ride to the hospital? Will the brave firemans mind coming out?
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@@isabellemello3836 Ok what the fuck
When your department has automatic steps
Conner Coleman exactly what I thought to 😂
When your department has disgusting quantums
Some newer fire engines have the automatic up and down steps
Jesse Curiel yea, the quantum’s have them as standard. I love the unique design they have
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This makes me want to cry!!!!!
Hmmmm didn’t say “BSI scene safe.” Automatic fail
Great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual still going strong great team efforts are deeply appreciated thanks they deserve alot of credit tons of it let's honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen and the dispatcher who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks its a service we can't live without right stay safe and warm out there stay strong as well much love and respect and appreciation job well done to everyone who responds keep them safe out there way to go very impressed !!! Joe
Okay I no joke thought he was going to say "Well because we want to" and leave it at that 😂
Yeah sometimes depending on the call they'll send a Fire Truck, followed by Police then EMS not long ago I'm not proud of my actions but I once when I was younger I went through a hard time and had suicidal thoughts so my mom called 911 and they sent a Rescue Squad, then the police, and then an Ambulance for Transport
thank goodness for paramedics a team of them saved my life
The reason why they send a firetruck to a EMS call if the EMS has to respond from a another call the firefighters on the firetruck are trained as emts
I have learned that two people on an ambulance is not enough manpower, Especially on CPR calls, multiple fire Units and a BC are ideal for the CPR calls
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My city always sends fire and rescue together.
In my city they send the police when no ambulance is available
just shoot the patient instead of helping them.
@@baljeep_gay dude get over your self just because cops in your city do that dont mean they do here law enforcement in my city actually helps
@@mississippiemergencyvehicl2440 i think that was sarcasm from him, you should just ignore it
@@donniefleuryy.29 idk but tbh i was a little upset about all this stuff going and all the cops getting killed
So if my dog gets hit by a car do I ring the rubbish removal team😂
you can do the exact same thing with a light vehicle.
I'm firefighter in France and when all of the ambulances of the sector are out we respond with a car or a SUV and a first responce bag, then an ambulance comes from an other sector
We have specific areas we are assigned here in the Good ole USA. I'm a firefighter first, so when we answer medical calls we stay in our fire truck so if there happens to be a fire call come in we can go straight there. Not run back to the firehouse and play switharoo. We are also car extrication specialists, hazmat level 1. High angle rope rescue, swift water rescue , confined space rescue and some sub specialists. I know that's how my department is. We are the end all catch all. I'm personally a EMT IV tech., my driver is a Paramedic..every truck in our fleet is ALS.
wow a 3 minute response time. that's pretty quick considering she was calling from a cellphone which probably means her call was routed through FHP (Florida Highway Patrol)
My dad was part of a volunteer fire dept. He was a medical responder and his role was to help stabilize medical situations until the ambulance arrived. My helmet tips to the crews of fire stations everywhere, especially RMES 120 near Calgary 👨🚒🏅. Part of me thinks RMES 177, as they were known by other numbers in their history, too.
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Plus the engine crew is often needed for lift assist because patients don't always go down in the most convenient spots.
And average American now 200 lbs overweight.
Because every call seems to revolve around the fact that the patient is on the third floor and is bariatric. God forbid they should have to walk Three Steps
Big city FD's got it alot worse, 3rd floor feel bad? Try the 23rd
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It’s life saving almost every department city or county like VFD most all pumpers carry EMS supply and have Emt or Fire fighter Parmedics trained on board usally the captain and engineer are also trained in EMS. It gives faster care to get to the patient until the ambulance arrives where I live all fire station but like a few that are only single company stations all have medic units assigned to them. Our ladder trucks and He at rescue trucks also carry advance life support Medical equipment.
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I think the video mentions that all their engines have a paramedic on board. For those that don't know advanced life support means paramedics and not basic EMT's are providing that level of care. Also engines often respond on medical calls when an ALS ambulance is sent to provide staff to help carry out victims. Back injuries among EMS personnel are all too common. Sometimes engine or truck companies are needed to break into homes when the victim is alone and can't come to the door to unlock it, although paramedic units carry some basic tools to pry open doors and windows.
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Great educational video.
My family has a summer house on a small island where the fire department and ambulance are all volunteers so the fire crew will be dispatched with the EMTs whenever they get an emergency call for the ambulance because it gives the EMTs additional people if needed....the simply go to the scene in their own vehicles rather than take the firetruck. If they get a call to transport a person after death they’ll have two of the firefighters do the transport that way all the EMTs remain on the island in case there’s an emergency (it’s a 45 minute boat ride from the island to the “mainland” one way....90 minutes round trip) since it requires two people.
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It's because, almost universally, fire departments receive enormous amounts of funding despite a very low call volume and EMS services are usually seriously underfunded despite their very high call volume. This translates to way more fire vehicles being available at any given time than ambulances.
Because there are very few fires to fight, FDs have to justify having millions and millions of dollars worth of apparatus and crews just sitting around, so they send their engines to medical calls to increase their call stats.
Yet municipalities often will not increase budgets for trained paramedics and transport-capable ambulances (what patients ACTUALLY need) and instead continue to pour money into apparatus and fire/rescue specialties that are seldom used for their intended purpose. This is because PR in FD is excellent, and they are able to sell the falsehood that they are the be-all end-all solution to EMS shortages to city councils.
King Arthur thank u, someone who gets it, I’m an emt and people don’t realize how busy the ambulance actually is.
Fire based EMS. Follow it up with community EMS that has your people doing overtime checking out patient wound sites and checking med compliance. You can quit your 2 other jobs and have a place at the kitchen table too Arthur but you have to pass an agility test. Dont hate
@@somemedic Not hating, just stating fact. Also I have no interest in being fire based, why would I do two jobs for one paycheck?
The simple answer is. Paramedics attached to Fire Stations. Run around delivery ambulances taking the sick back and forth to hospital privatise. .
Every unit has a job but sometimes they respond for extra help for the paramedics or even if it is a car accident
This is high class did y’all catch those steps on the truck
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I've always wondered why they do send fire trucks instead of ambulances, makes sense now.
The reason being the Engine is probably the closest unit. In my department we have Engines/Trucks/Rescues(ambulances with rescue capabilites) and you will get an Engine or a Rescue based on the level of call. Critical calls that involve cpr, gsw/stab wounds, and a few others automatically get an Engine due to having 4 people on scene immediately as opposed to 2. No matter what you're getting the closest most appropriate unit.
guys you know firefighters respond to medical calls its also good
I went for a tour through the Centeral station in Bangor Maine back 3 to 4 years ago and one of the firefighters told us that 90% of City calls are medical calls.
in the us most ambulances are private companies, some fire departments have their own but not a lot, all firefighters get paramedic training, in the event that no ambulances are available
Bdubz Where are you at that ambulance companies are private and fire departments don’t have an ambulance?
FirefighterProdigy NYC you can have a wait time. Densely populated areas tend to not have enough resources.
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Bdubz The Ambulance Broked Down
FirefighterProdigy You should probably re-read that.
They are the ones, that will help you until the ambulance Arrives.
Let’s say the ambulance of that town is out on a call so they decide to call the next town over for a ambulance which in this case will take a little longer for them to rush done there. So they send the fire engine which is closer to help the patient until the next towns ambulance finally arrives. It’s all common sense but some people don’t get it until it happens to them and the ambulance arrives 15 minutes after you call but the fire engine showed up 9 minutes ago.
Sometimes the ambulance service is combined with the fire department so they’ll just send a crew of fire fighters some in the ambulance and others either in a fire truck or battalion vehicle.
so 115 ambos are on a scene? that sounds like a terrorist attack
What a waste of personal. Get some more ambulances. Problem solved
When you think of it carefully, the personnel on the engines, and truck companies can assess if the person requesting services really needs a medic unit transport, or can they go to the hospital by other means, keeping the medic units in service for those who do, and saving you $1,000 per trip unnecessarily.
FighterFighters have to learn medical procedures because say a scenario where there going to a call and they have to go to a fire, and they go to the fire and someone is not breathing so they don't want to waste 10 mins on waiting on an ambulance so they learn medical procedures.
Also if there are a critical amount of medical calls they have to use a fire engine instead of an ambulance, plus fire engines get more attention from drivers on the road and they will pull to the side of the road making it faster on the other hand for ambulances there response time is fairly longer.
So therefore we see there Fire engines can respond to a medical call
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True. In my county, they send both for a call depending on the type. Sometimes just the squad is sent. But each station (mostly in populated areas) have a squad.
in the US as a firefighter you have to have your EMT which you renew every 2 years to be a firefighter. you go on more medical runs than fire runs
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Firefighters are trained EMT’S Aswell As Normal Paramedics. They also have medical gear in some compartments of the truck.
Well, this happens because the EMS is a branch of the Fire Department, making firefighters medics, or, it’s because all ambulances are responding to calls, so they use fire trucks instead
After calling 911 on an overdosed victim the first people to show up was five police officers followed by Fire engines and then 3 minutes later the ambulance! So......
I still have the same question...... this really didnt answer it
The video doesn’t really explain it but they send fire because some calls require more personnel on scene because two medics or emts on an ambulance isn’t enough
@@Ifyoufeelawaysmd yeah but a bunch of firefighters generally make most medical calls worse, they would be better to have 2 ambulances respond.
@@joelc7736 that would take too many ambulances out of service especially on really busy days just for one call
@@joelc7736 this department doesn’t have ambulances they get ambulances from my county but the engines aren’t first due we have utility vehicles called rescues that are first due on medical calls
@@Ifyoufeelawaysmd that's slightly better, but it's stupid to send fire staff to medical calls. They're more of a burden than a help on 95% of calls in my experience. Most systems need to refocus on what they actually run on and hire more ambulance crews and get rid of 1/3 of the fire staff. Most calls just need an ambulance so you wouldn't have to send two to all of them just certain ones.
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That fire truck is cool even with the starirs
Why not have life saving equipment in a spare vehicle that isn’t a fire truck?
Then you're paying for a whole 'nother vehicle.
If my neibor asked a question like that to someone who's saving my life, I would kick their ass. Plain and simple.
My local Fire House (36), captain said the reason they send an engine is in case of possible fires or vehicular wrecks nearby. Better to have the engine already there, rather than waiting for one. Someones life may be at stake and sometime they just cant wait for the engine.
In other words: we don't have enough ambulances.
Ok I get what their saying BUT here's the real question if the engine responds to a call for medical and it turns out to be more serious than they thought is the engine equipped to transport someone to the hospital?
I worked in TN. But I know as a firefighter we answered all life threatening calls as well as an ambulance being dispatched too. We on average were on seen 3 minutes before the ambulance. Then if transport Was needed they go by ambulance. We even help package the patients. We carried everything on our fire truck that an ambulance has as far as medical treatment. I'm an EMT IV , my driver was a Paramedic and my Capt. Was a first responder ( 1 step below emt ). Hope that helps.
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They send fire trucks to EMS calls in order to increase call volumes and decrease the massive amount of down time that professional firefighters use to enjoy. It is a tactic to expand the relevance of the fire service at the urging of FF unions. With the number of fire calls rapidly decreasing, the fire service does not want to risk obsolescence or be faced with funding and staffing cuts. Many times fire responses are redundant and obtrusive to EMS agencies and are not needed, especially for non ALS assignments.
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You have THE answer: greedy unions!
That huge engine truck, with all the firefighting equipment AND the medical response equipment has a 3 man only crew, which is totally inadequate in case of fire. On a fire, what is needed most is not ladders or water, but merely HANDS, lots of!
And if this huge truck is useless on a fire, better to use a lighter more agile transportation tool to respond to a medical call. My two cents...
vollys use a engine them ems calls a small usually 250 or 350 desile pick up
I'd argue that fire department responses to bls assignments are even better. Why send an ambulance to an uninjured lift assist, when they could be made available to transport a respiratory distress? You have no idea how many times we arrive there minutes before the ambulance, lift and assess the patient. Cancel the ambulance, and just as we free up the ambulance, a more critical call is dispatched. Meaning that had we not been there, a critical patient would have been delayed care.
not true, NFPA guidelines say 4 men for interior firefighting, but not all agencies follow NFPA in totality. Not to mention, on a fire call, chiefs will be on scene allowing for 4 person staffing ratio to be upheld.
This is how our Volunteer Fire Department responses to calls. They always have the VFD come with all the other responders. If there’s an Ambulance, the VFD comes.
It's called fire and rescue for a reason
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Need a video on why police show up to most medical calls
Exact same reason they send fire, provide as much care as possible.
I am 14, my whole family is in the fire dept. 2 more years for me, I can't wait. Ik how to do most stuff in the fd
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Respect brother. I am more of a Law Enforcement type of guy. But always like to see my guys in red.
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Thank man, I have a buddie who wants to be a officer.
Yah even i know that fire/ems can get busy so usually first to arrive on scene is a engine followed by police then ems. It usually depends on the state of emergency. Keep up the good work guys and thank you for all you do
i legit live in lakeland and this is on my reccomended lol
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