How Tesla Took Down A $12 Billion Hedge Fund

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024

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  • @nitinmittal213
    @nitinmittal213 3 года назад +864

    A guy who shorted Amazon, Netflix & Tesla has survived, that is one hell of a survival story!

    • @rahuldeshmukhpatil
      @rahuldeshmukhpatil 3 года назад +47

      I came here to know how he survived, rather than to know his losses.

    • @josephj6521
      @josephj6521 3 года назад +17

      He’s got no idea.

    • @nitinmittal213
      @nitinmittal213 3 года назад +14

      @@josephj6521 No idea is infinitely better than an idea like this!

    • @HZAres
      @HZAres 3 года назад +17

      I mean it's not his money

    • @testsubjectzz
      @testsubjectzz 3 года назад +17

      Need to meet the guy. I will take the opposite position.

  • @agrippathegamer1141
    @agrippathegamer1141 3 года назад +1767

    Quickest way to become a millionaire: Start as a billionaire and short meme stocks.

    • @franciscofreitas6695
      @franciscofreitas6695 3 года назад +15

      HAHAHAHAHA

    • @turok637
      @turok637 3 года назад +13

      thats a way to become poor you mean

    • @minecraftjimive
      @minecraftjimive 3 года назад +99

      @@turok637 u didnt get it did you

    • @isaiahm883
      @isaiahm883 3 года назад +4

      i laughed excessively

    • @j23j232002
      @j23j232002 3 года назад +2

      well, you can as quickly become thouseneer by going long on those stocks as well, it goes both ways.

  • @TheZsolZsol
    @TheZsolZsol 3 года назад +770

    There is a pattern: he was successful at picking and shorting fraudulent FINANCIAL companies, where the only thing matters is the balance sheet that he understands. But, then he turned around and starting to short TECH companies that were high growth with high multiples placed on FUTURE value of a technology. To see whether a tech company's high multiple is justified or not, you need to understand the technology, which he clearly DOES NOT. So he started betting against tech winners, because they had too high valuation in his rear-view-mirror based financial analysis. Lesson to learn: stay within your expertise! Do not try to judge players in industries you have no clue about!

    • @raindogs451
      @raindogs451 3 года назад +59

      Bullshit. Tesla was valued more than Ford. GM, Volkswagen and a couple others COMBINED, at a time they sold 21 million vehicles and Tesla. 340k. THE OMLY thing he misread was the Bernie Sanders/ Donald Trump like cult factor. You don’t need to understand the 16th century Dutch Tulip Bulb.

    • @TheZsolZsol
      @TheZsolZsol 3 года назад +39

      @@raindogs451 why don't you also add all oil companies, dealerships, fueling stations, insurance companies, parts manufacturers ? Because Tesla is not just final assembly of cars, they do all the others listed too.

    • @raindogs451
      @raindogs451 3 года назад +18

      @@TheZsolZsol That's a good question, and worthy of discussion, although most of the industries are not germane to this paricular discussion. Musk won't end any of these industries, and to the extent they're disruptedit won't be Musk alone. Musk isn't the first, and he does deserve some credit for deliverng Apple type panache to the Tesla brand. But whether it's a power wall, or solar roofs, Musk has to deliver good, consistent earnings. To date, he has not. He's made progress on some. But add every thing up, and the real earnings don't COME CLOSE to the valuation. Not close. Musk wants you to believe he hung the moon. He did not.

    • @ChinHobbyToys
      @ChinHobbyToys 3 года назад +15

      @@raindogs451 hmmm
      . Tesla doesn't only sell car.. it's a tech company that sell cars, solar panels... etc..

    • @FallLineJP
      @FallLineJP 3 года назад +7

      @@raindogs451 You're forgetting to substract the negative value of the ICE production lines from the legacy auto makers' valuations.

  • @sephondranzer
    @sephondranzer 3 года назад +57

    A pair of short shorts?!?! Holy fuck that is so savage I busted out laughing 😂

    • @clu4u
      @clu4u 3 года назад

      Bust a nut!

    • @imnotftw
      @imnotftw 3 года назад +2

      Treelon Musk. Mr Unicorn. What a legend.

    • @jaybee3165
      @jaybee3165 3 года назад +1

      yah.. .i really enjoyed that. I think it would've been LESS embarrassing for the boy if elon had setup a mash 4077th episode of disappearing shower walls as the entire local YWCA local chapter looks on in an extreme fit of laughter at a bad case of 'shrinkage'. lol.

  • @jeffreysmith6161
    @jeffreysmith6161 3 года назад +463

    Einhorn has been shorting AMZN and NFLX as well as TSLA for years; a hat trick to regret forever. Ego and the desire to be "right" kills these dudes as it's doing with those who shorted GME and AMC.

    • @Toxic-th4si
      @Toxic-th4si 3 года назад +45

      They're right once in 10 years and somehow think they're gods

    • @CBJay-hw3jk
      @CBJay-hw3jk 3 года назад +13

      i would keep the short on NFLX because of strong competion

    • @ScottyT47
      @ScottyT47 3 года назад +26

      can you expect anything more from someone who was given 900k for a startup? ;)

    • @FragEightyfive
      @FragEightyfive 3 года назад +28

      There are a lot of overvalued companies. However, the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.

    • @SuperEvo1990
      @SuperEvo1990 3 года назад +2

      If it wasn't for pandemic. He would be right.

  • @kazukinakamura1110
    @kazukinakamura1110 3 года назад +29

    He’s right, companies are overvalued, but that doesn’t mean valuations will drop. They could stay overvalued for years.

    • @dq2023
      @dq2023 2 года назад +2

      Nothing is overvalued since the Fed started printing…

    • @ProfAzimov
      @ProfAzimov Год назад +3

      "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent"

  • @paulmakinson1965
    @paulmakinson1965 3 года назад +30

    Financiers believe that the universe revolves around the laws of finance. Engineers know that the universe revolves around the laws of physics.

    • @azrifarhanhanif2975
      @azrifarhanhanif2975 3 года назад +2

      That's until somebody somewhere starts crashing down financially. Hey Amazon is too big to fail but all you need is 1 company to fall then we all see what a bubble means

    • @Chris-bv8qd
      @Chris-bv8qd 3 года назад

      In the age of the internet all you need is the law of meme

  • @SummitInsuranceUSA
    @SummitInsuranceUSA 3 года назад +422

    Basically just buy everything Einhorn says to short. 😅

    • @lemmym7393
      @lemmym7393 3 года назад +2

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @d33763
      @d33763 3 года назад +15

      I lost a lot of money on one of his longs - SunEdison, thank god I held on my Tesla shares and didn't go short.

    • @r88a
      @r88a 3 года назад +16

      Or short his fund 😅

    • @violarulez
      @violarulez 3 года назад +3

      what a dumb thing to say. look into the guys history. he's been wrong plenty of times but he is smarter than you and a better investor, and likely a better poker player.

    • @fuzzjunky
      @fuzzjunky 3 года назад +2

      a lot of people have gotten rich doing the opposite of kramer's advice i can assure you

  • @Lesminster
    @Lesminster 3 года назад +94

    Imo the older you get the less accurate your predictions about future tech gonna be. This guy is a good example of this.

    • @no0channel0at0all
      @no0channel0at0all 3 года назад +6

      He was unconsciously incompetent and let his ego get the best of him.

    • @tedherrera9180
      @tedherrera9180 3 года назад

      I think he is the definition of a one trick pony. He has a hammer and everything looks like a nail. One size fits all approach. Out of clichés.

    • @Lesminster
      @Lesminster 3 года назад +1

      @Andre Catenani I get the feeling you intentionally misunderstood what I wrote.

    • @Astrotase
      @Astrotase 3 года назад +1

      @@no0channel0at0all he's richer and more succesful than you, you better stfu

    • @dekippiesip
      @dekippiesip 3 года назад

      @Northern Wealth Anarchy Perimeter Lehmann also wasn't a very hard bet. For months it's stock was falling and falling, the only risky bet was betting on the government not saving them.

  • @tristanhannah1268
    @tristanhannah1268 3 года назад +225

    Well he clearly didn't realize that fundamentals mean nothing and stonks only go up

    • @MrJelllyo
      @MrJelllyo 3 года назад +15

      Boomers screeching about fundamentals is so fucking hilarious its like they don't realise the stock market is one big game. If you don't have a dividend, then your stock is backed nearly purely by market sentiment and 'fundamentals' are just an illusion to give people the feeling like the price goes up/down for logical reasons. Delusional shit.

    • @thebigcheese1889
      @thebigcheese1889 3 года назад

      @@tripplefives1402 stinks go 🆙

    • @ascensionblade
      @ascensionblade 3 года назад +4

      The fact that Tesla is trading today at 2/3s of its high is useful to know. Many other stocks that soared until February have plummeted that much and more. When the stimulus and super unemployment run out (when there is no one left to pump), a 33% loss may look like a gift.
      Regarding dividends, that's just not true. There are some very profitable companies that cost 10%ish more than their tangible book value. In other words, they could be sold for parts and the shareholders would only lose a tiny amount of their investments. That's where my money sits (for the part that isn't day trading technicals).

    • @aj9969
      @aj9969 3 года назад +6

      When money printer goes BRRRR, stonks only go up

    • @dennisdennis3188
      @dennisdennis3188 3 года назад

      You are the next candidate for the Nobel Prize for your scientific research with the result " STONKS ONLY GO UP "

  • @casperhansen826
    @casperhansen826 3 года назад +25

    8:40 We won't interrupt Einhorn while he is making his biggest mistake.

  • @lee8287
    @lee8287 3 года назад +233

    Who would win in a fight: Twelve billion tendies or one electric boi?

    • @Owsryudie
      @Owsryudie 3 года назад +8

      Electric boi, until we pull the plug.

    • @christophermartin972
      @christophermartin972 3 года назад +2

      🔋 🔋

    • @panda007
      @panda007 3 года назад +7

      Well, E-boy is worth 164B USD. That’s 14x times Einhorn’s fund at their peaks.

    • @clu4u
      @clu4u 3 года назад +6

      Never bet against the Elon...

  • @udbhav5079
    @udbhav5079 3 года назад +66

    Gosh, I wish my dad gave me $900K to start a "successful" startup.

    • @federalagenciesarecourtesans
      @federalagenciesarecourtesans 3 года назад +16

      You would just open up a snow cone stand and blow the rest on Hookers and Drugs like a Rock Star.

    • @bundubashing2591
      @bundubashing2591 3 года назад +3

      He definitely got a lot more than that

    • @dansands8140
      @dansands8140 3 года назад +2

      Rather than wishing that, perhaps you should work towards being able to give your son or daughter that.

    • @hokeywolf3416
      @hokeywolf3416 3 года назад +4

      He took it to $12B that's 1300X.....

  • @carlhsieh2615
    @carlhsieh2615 3 года назад +67

    lol the problem is Einhorn got confused on what's a disruptive innovative company and a fad

    • @musaran2
      @musaran2 3 года назад +7

      To be fair he is not alone.
      Cue in the hordes flocking to "the next Tesla", none of which is even remotely close.

    • @IrishOister
      @IrishOister 3 года назад +3

      Well Tesla has a P/E ratio of 1000 while its competitors are catching up (in Europe Tesla lags behind VW in electric). So it's fair to say a correction is due before the end of the year. Say it goes back to a more normal 30 P/E ratio, thats a stock price of 22$ instead of 660$. So Einhorn could win his bet.

    • @musaran2
      @musaran2 3 года назад +3

      @@IrishOister The market is forward-looking.
      We price *now* on *future* earnings.

    • @IrishOister
      @IrishOister 3 года назад

      @@musaran2 absolutely. But 1000 p/e is not too extreme?

    • @Drippinonyou
      @Drippinonyou 3 года назад +3

      @@IrishOister LOL. We will see. i cant wait to see the shorters faces after this massive scaling of production is over. We still have the energy sector since Tesla is getting into the power market in texas. Omg that is another big one. Hold your horses.

  • @creatorgenerator1998
    @creatorgenerator1998 3 года назад +24

    Two points. He doesn't comprehend the "Amazon" business model and he's got a big hate on for Tesla since it's made a fool of him. The latter has clouded his judgment.

    • @EroticOnion23
      @EroticOnion23 3 года назад

      Ego battle at this point...

    • @chrissmith3587
      @chrissmith3587 5 месяцев назад

      To be fair amazons business model doesn’t make sense
      It’s the dominant cloud technology provider, used by engineers, known for paying very well and employees walking away millionaires.
      Then there’s the retail section on the side, which brings in less profit, bad press, requires extensive and expensive real world assets, and is known for abusing employees.
      AWS is basically propping up a retailer

  • @macioluko9484
    @macioluko9484 3 года назад +88

    I just want to remind everyone that technically... there are no limits to the possible losses in a short position.

    • @Ryan-we9in
      @Ryan-we9in 3 года назад +1

      Yeah, Or you could just close your position.

    • @dontforgettolike7127
      @dontforgettolike7127 3 года назад

      GME GONNA FLYYYYY

    • @nemeanlioness
      @nemeanlioness 3 года назад +3

      @@Ryan-we9in egos won't let them

    • @rakingyoutube
      @rakingyoutube 3 года назад +2

      Agreed, short positions are for day-trading only and long-term shorts are suicidal.

    • @thomaskarlsen4570
      @thomaskarlsen4570 3 года назад +2

      Melvin Capital probably agree

  • @SGTShootToKi11
    @SGTShootToKi11 3 года назад +225

    I mean, activist shorting is all nice but it's genuinely market manipulation. These people have no idea how hypocritical they look. Great video.

    • @ristekostadinov2820
      @ristekostadinov2820 3 года назад +9

      i wonder how these activist short sellers have this ground breaking info, are they involving themselves in insider trading like Steven Cohen

    • @SGTShootToKi11
      @SGTShootToKi11 3 года назад +5

      @@ristekostadinov2820 I'm sure all these hedge funds tribalize like the rest of the country does. So if one hears something, the others will know before you and I ever will. Word travels fast on the streets wall street might be no different.

    • @st_710
      @st_710 3 года назад

      no different than major market media talking hot trade ideas n news related trades when in reality they been in it they want retail to pump their bags create fomo so after making big unrealized pnl they have the liquidity at high levels preventing slippage while they exit massive positions... sell into strength allows em to scale out n not spike the order book. most ppl dont think about that and while the activist short selling is more negative/ blatantly manipulation/ n riddled with misinformation it happens with far less frequency than the media example i just said..
      at end of day the market is rigged for the rich n the exchanges survive off fresh blood as most ppl quit after blowing up accs.. they make the rules as shit grows n dont get the same charges for crimes we would get hung on despite them doin it at magnitudes greater ....sthe banks legal teams write incredibly tricky derivative assets to push on the rest of the world taht exploit grey areas in national and global laws that churns money before the buyers understand they bought dogshit n taht jig is up, new one on the way.. Once u understand and accept that its all bout linkin with them on the meta and riding their coattails to tendies n moral decay!!!!
      n wow this trading powder got me writing books on youtube comments at 7am LOL

    • @st_710
      @st_710 3 года назад +1

      @@kennethmoore-cq7bj exactly just gotta accept that is a big part of tge game, and adapt ur game to use it dor ur own tradin

    • @Football__Junkie
      @Football__Junkie 3 года назад +1

      Totally agree. Where do you draw the line on when it comes to manipulation?
      I would think throwing opinions out there on national TV to move the price is pretty manipulative. It’s no different than the actual company providing a press release. It’s info that is taken seriously by the market.

  • @bazzle_brush
    @bazzle_brush 3 года назад +325

    What a sad life to live when all you're working towards is hoping good companies fail.

    • @conformtoserveband2312
      @conformtoserveband2312 3 года назад +42

      Without short sellers the market wouldn’t function. Short selling isn’t about hoping companies fail.

    • @cloudstorage9928
      @cloudstorage9928 3 года назад +7

      Well said, Barry.

    • @Thomas-re9ky
      @Thomas-re9ky 3 года назад +11

      Like Enron. Damn short-sellers for ruining that great companies and all other companies. Basically if it’s a company it’s good.

    • @tilus75
      @tilus75 3 года назад +29

      @@conformtoserveband2312 The market would be much better without margin and leverage. Why would you be able to sell what you don`t own?
      This is bullshit my friend. Made up bullshit so wallstreet and bankers has more options to redistribute wealth to the 1%

    • @unclej7842
      @unclej7842 3 года назад +4

      Some of them should be prosecuted for saying bad things to make the price drop. Musk lost his chairman's position for comments he made.

  • @ede4120
    @ede4120 3 года назад +132

    His name translated to english is legit „unicorn“

    • @Pravduh
      @Pravduh 3 года назад +5

      Hilarious

    • @702Blunt
      @702Blunt 3 года назад

      From what other language ?

    • @peger7320
      @peger7320 3 года назад +1

      @@702Blunt From german...

    • @markdebelich5101
      @markdebelich5101 3 года назад +1

      Oh, I thought it was dickhead, I was wrong.

    • @andremattsson
      @andremattsson 3 года назад +1

      No it means one horn, ein=1 and unicorns have 1 horn.

  • @IgotpoorNowRich
    @IgotpoorNowRich 3 года назад +21

    He is shorting the biggest cinema for home, biggest oppertunity to change mobility, biggest warehouse on the eath. Er ist wirklich ein Einhorn.

  • @nello8630
    @nello8630 3 года назад +9

    He shorted for the right reasons, however his reasons were outdated.

  • @gregabrams5792
    @gregabrams5792 3 года назад +14

    I have a friend who is short the dow, nasdaq and s and p. This friend doesn't realize that this market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.

  • @movdqa
    @movdqa 3 года назад +9

    You can always say "I was wrong", change your approach and start making money again. Holding onto something that doesn't work is the way to loss and sadness. Doesn't matter whether you have $100 or $10 billion.

  • @oluwatosinshonibare505
    @oluwatosinshonibare505 3 года назад +148

    “Remember, my son, that any man who is a bear on the future of this country will go broke.” JP Morgan, 1908.

    • @Chainyanker007
      @Chainyanker007 3 года назад

      Ooops.

    • @madsam0320
      @madsam0320 3 года назад +2

      LoL! Listening to someone talking 113 years ago, the house of cards is coming down.

    • @harmhoeks5996
      @harmhoeks5996 3 года назад +2

      "Remember, my children, anyone who is a bull on the future of this country which will be wrecked by Climate Change will go broke" me, 2021

    • @labandonaldhock80
      @labandonaldhock80 3 года назад

      @@madsam0320 yes and look at our national debt, and a 3 trillion budget short fall this year. I believe the US is done.!

    • @ravib2303
      @ravib2303 3 года назад +1

      wish I know this 20 years back.

  • @Bertydude
    @Bertydude 3 года назад +13

    I never shorted a stock ... my first one will be RH IPO

    • @graeme2446
      @graeme2446 3 года назад +2

      That's one company everyone that dosnt have an account with RH wants to see fail

  • @Astrotase
    @Astrotase 3 года назад +5

    Instead of shorting, if he invested in the basket, he would have being a very successful hedge fund manager 😂

  • @trinsit
    @trinsit 3 года назад +283

    He is a perfect example of being born into money and being entirely out of touch with reality. He understands what created value in the old world and hasn't realized that we are continually evolving. Planned obsolescence, profit for the sake of profit, and a ton of inefficiencies are going out the window.

    • @ascensionblade
      @ascensionblade 3 года назад +6

      Why is Tesla down 33% if that's true?

    • @trinsit
      @trinsit 3 года назад +15

      @@ascensionblade because institutions and people sold their shares. The quality of the company doesn't set market price. It's not like there was a huge scandal that revealed fraud or exploitation where their workers are peeing in bottles to not get fired. The entire market is selling off because people are worried about inflation due to the treasury bond prices.

    • @trinsit
      @trinsit 3 года назад +9

      @@ascensionblade in other words, right now, every company is down to some varying degree.

    • @howo357
      @howo357 3 года назад +16

      @@ascensionblade lol I’ll take 33% draw down any year if the stock doubles every year

    • @ascensionblade
      @ascensionblade 3 года назад +2

      @@howo357 said literally anyone who isn't under a vow of poverty 😁😉

  • @samholder196
    @samholder196 3 года назад +8

    lol elon sends him short shorts. this dude really does get the internet

  • @bardistass
    @bardistass 3 года назад +7

    "Einhorn and Finkle...... Finkle and Einhorn"

    • @taylorskidmore2760
      @taylorskidmore2760 3 года назад +1

      I came here to make this joke, well done

    • @sixfifths
      @sixfifths 3 года назад

      Thankyou! It was driving me nuts, I knew I'd heard that name before 🤣🙏

    • @HaydenLee
      @HaydenLee 3 года назад

      Einhorn is a MAN.....oh my god

  • @smarsville
    @smarsville 3 года назад +3

    Great job on this story. Typically videos like these have a lot of waste. This was exact and efficient with well placed actual footage. Very well done.

  • @thisisgunnabeachannel362
    @thisisgunnabeachannel362 3 года назад +68

    Gotta give it to him he 💎 ✋his position till this day

    • @emachine310
      @emachine310 3 года назад +10

      Yup 💎 👐 now he should join us on WSB and buy GME

    • @bigm8555
      @bigm8555 3 года назад +1

      @@emachine310 Apes together strong.

    • @diyaasaeed7959
      @diyaasaeed7959 3 года назад +4

      @@emachine310 he should short gme so we can take the rest of his money

    • @xXEatYourDogXx
      @xXEatYourDogXx 3 года назад

      @@diyaasaeed7959 😂😂😂😂

  • @parmanduke
    @parmanduke 3 года назад +7

    Imagine had he gone long. Dude would be a legend

  • @andead1731
    @andead1731 3 года назад +15

    3rd , well done on the amazing work dude, youve come a long way in such a short time.

  • @Tr4G3dy4440
    @Tr4G3dy4440 3 года назад +35

    This guy is Literally the real life version of dude who was mad jealous of stark!! IM dead

    • @leonleon2021
      @leonleon2021 3 года назад

      yep, remember the name?

    • @kavky
      @kavky 3 года назад +2

      @@leonleon2021 Justin Hammer?

    • @leonleon2021
      @leonleon2021 3 года назад

      @@kavky yep, justin hammer irl.

    • @kakerake6018
      @kakerake6018 3 года назад

      Justin hammer ass

    • @leonleon2021
      @leonleon2021 3 года назад

      @@kakerake6018 u want his ass? 🤔

  • @gneruinseruihnutshnu
    @gneruinseruihnutshnu 3 года назад +8

    That guy can't accept tech companies are not valuated by current fundamentals but possible future. Tell him you are positive about your future and he will short you too.

    • @jimmysass
      @jimmysass 3 года назад

      Nikola / Theranos / Faraday Future/ uBiome - these were also tech companies that were not valuated by current fundamentals but possible future. I'm not defending the guy, but its not black and white.

  • @mysteryguest9555
    @mysteryguest9555 3 года назад +103

    He unfortunately underestimated Tesla and at this point is letting his personal feelings cloud his judgement. What he is missing is the fanbase Elon has and like Apple, people have bought in to his dream and will continue to throw money at him. It will be very interesting to see if the Cyber truck takes off and how big. If Tesla can manage to pump out ridiculous numbers of the Type 2 in China while constantly making its batteries better, you would be a fool to short Tesla as like it or not, electric vehicles are here to stay.

    • @howo357
      @howo357 3 года назад +5

      Very true. Tesla was able to do secondary offering when it was about to run out of money a few years ago thanks to fan boys. We really were putting our money in Elon’s vision before any concrete evidence that the company would survive. And it paid off big and hopefully continue to do so.

    • @Pravduh
      @Pravduh 3 года назад

      All the kids agree too.

    • @rob5615
      @rob5615 3 года назад

      Plus it’s backed by the richest man in the world..

    • @howo357
      @howo357 3 года назад

      @Andre Catenani you are the fool if you think a person who buy low sell high is the fool

    • @raybod1775
      @raybod1775 3 года назад +2

      There's more to Tesla than cars. It's largest profit potential may be its battery technology and charging stations which it could allow other electric car companies to use. I'm personally disappointed in its self-driving AI because of my own knowledge and background in software development, it should be better by now.

  • @robins2389
    @robins2389 3 года назад +18

    I've got an idea for a book. It's complicated, but stick with me ...
    Once upon a time there was a baby dinosaur called David. He learnt everything he knew from daddy dinosaur. Now he's extinct and he doesn't know it yet. The end.

  • @TheDanaYiShow
    @TheDanaYiShow 3 года назад +37

    Imagine seeing TSLA as a baby company and all it's potential, and SHORTING it :o

    • @onelife8218
      @onelife8218 3 года назад +6

      Tesla potential is huge and in 30 years time, with Elon, Tesla will still be growing. Boomers mind cannot grasp this level of change.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 3 года назад

      I wouldv been cautious of Tesla in its early years aswell. Elon musk proved that the bussiness can power through tho.

  • @nigelrathbone6552
    @nigelrathbone6552 3 года назад +94

    Einhorn just needs his daddy to give him another 900 million dollars and he'll be back on top!

    • @CatManTho
      @CatManTho 3 года назад +14

      it was 900k. the guy is still loaded.

    • @timpogrebiski6914
      @timpogrebiski6914 3 года назад +8

      Because idiot hedge funds always ask for free bails to clean up their billion dollar fak ups.

    • @nigelrathbone6552
      @nigelrathbone6552 3 года назад +2

      @@kennethmoore-cq7bj So why are you so violently insulting everyone, something is wrong with you emotionally or intellectually. And why are you so adamantly defending this clear case of bad decisions and mismanagement. Also, just two months ago Melvin Capitol had to be bailed out by Citadel LLC and Point72 Asset Management. He didn’t say government bail out he said bail out.
      You should probably stop insulting everyone and take a deep breath. Also you’re an idiot

    • @thanos2399
      @thanos2399 3 года назад +1

      @@nigelrathbone6552
      Bruh don’t mind him he just seeking attention, look at him he lookin like an ugly bald ass nazi lmao in his deadlift 🤣

    • @icetrip2417
      @icetrip2417 Год назад

      😂😂

  • @darshanaiyengar
    @darshanaiyengar 3 года назад +10

    He may have done better if he shorted Greenlight Capital to hedge his position

  • @NotsoFree_StateofFlorida
    @NotsoFree_StateofFlorida 3 года назад +3

    This was back when I still had respect for Maria Bartoloma

  • @RWong-wn3pv
    @RWong-wn3pv 3 года назад +12

    With a Cornell degree in government, it is amazing that he didn’t see that the government was/is actually supporting Tesla . Oh well.

  • @d1bber
    @d1bber 3 года назад +21

    So basically he got two big Bets right then threw everything on one last Bet against Netflix Amazon and Tesla!
    And now he’s broke 😅 lol

    • @ljtuohey-kay2937
      @ljtuohey-kay2937 3 года назад +3

      his company is broke. daddy is still a billionaire

  • @iamirrelevant5378
    @iamirrelevant5378 3 года назад +3

    These are the same scumbags we are battling by holding AMC today. Good video.

  • @MKNYC_
    @MKNYC_ 3 года назад +3

    I love seeing the stock prices from these old videos, makes me feel incredibly unintelligent

  • @fcbrants
    @fcbrants 3 года назад

    Thanks, I've seen bit & pieces of this story over the years, but your video brings everything into clear focus.

  • @lance_jasperson
    @lance_jasperson 3 года назад +3

    Anger is my own worst enemy i dont like to lose starting to understand how things really work....

  • @makatelli
    @makatelli Год назад +2

    Greenlight Capital rose 36.6 percent last year. Tesla is plummeting and so is Netflix and Facebook.

  • @LhnAran
    @LhnAran 3 года назад +9

    Shorts sellers are best thing retail traders can ask for, they expose fraud company..they dont have to be right but it keeps a check

  • @toneyeye
    @toneyeye 3 года назад +2

    When you have a thesis without understanding the underpinnings of it, it's a matter of time before the wind direction changes and everything falls apart.

  • @johnblanchard2520
    @johnblanchard2520 3 года назад +10

    How is there not a 4 hour long podcast with Joe Rogan, Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Tim Dillon, and Alex Jones by now!?!?

    • @John-vk5il
      @John-vk5il 3 года назад +6

      That would break the internet. And would probably be deemed hate speech by the fact-checking gods

    • @skillzconstruction1460
      @skillzconstruction1460 3 года назад

      This action would break the internet, burn all communication network lines, and cause your electrical outlets to produce water. God himself would appear just to fact check Jones and Trump as Young Jamie cries in the corner.

  • @itisWhatitis12345
    @itisWhatitis12345 3 года назад +2

    9:23 that letter is genius and hilarious xD

  • @johnofmalta
    @johnofmalta 3 года назад +4

    A person can live a long, happy and successful life without shorting a single stock. With all due respect to Mr Einhorn and that Chicago School guy(He won a g d Nobel prize) economics is a lot more emotions and a lot less rational than smart people seem to realize. Best wishes and so on JoM

  • @Smoove_J
    @Smoove_J Год назад +1

    7:26 you’d think this guy could afford a decent toupee.

  • @silversurfer8237
    @silversurfer8237 3 года назад +5

    He probably needs to close his existing fund and start with a new one. Since his performance fee will revolve around high watermark, his existing fund greatly handicaps him in this respect.

  • @savage751
    @savage751 4 месяца назад

    Know what my dad gave me to start off my career? A handshake and told me good luck.

  • @nemeanlioness
    @nemeanlioness 3 года назад +3

    still cant believe he shorted Amazon. well at least he got a free pair of shorts for his Tesla position. worth more a billion dollars to Einhorn.

  • @Joshbaity79
    @Joshbaity79 3 года назад

    Life is volatile... us retailers THRIVE in this atmosphere. dji down almost 300 today and I had a killer green week.
    They forget we are the ones with all the money.
    Apes por vida!

  • @hlomphomota8055
    @hlomphomota8055 3 года назад +14

    He seems like a man who is Nostalgic in nature. His values are more driven by a dream to keep things as they are as compared to seeing where the world is going.
    So I can say he will win with the losers...

  • @ImranSahir1
    @ImranSahir1 3 года назад +1

    Shorting should be illegal. It's one of the most fucked up things capitalism has ever come up with.

  • @knmfujiwara
    @knmfujiwara 3 года назад +24

    Short-selling is a terrible way to make money. It opens yourself to unlimited losses and you can't really scale.

    • @copperharris2368
      @copperharris2368 3 года назад +2

      never short even if an business is shit they can always get bought out by an good one? right?

    • @jiezheng2967
      @jiezheng2967 3 года назад +1

      I learned it the hard way.

    • @NitrogenBullet
      @NitrogenBullet 3 года назад +2

      Never understood it. Shorts have limited upside and unlimited downside. Even if you were 99% sure why risk it.

    • @aj9969
      @aj9969 3 года назад +1

      Put options are a better way to take a bearish position.. at least your losses are limited..

    • @chavvobimbo5474
      @chavvobimbo5474 3 года назад

      Let’s just welcome them and take their gains

  • @billykotsos4642
    @billykotsos4642 3 года назад +2

    Shorting tech stocks of Google Amazon and Apple is really insane

  • @chipshiner2371
    @chipshiner2371 Год назад +5

    He was just a little early.

  • @easye4329
    @easye4329 3 года назад +1

    Fun fact: that quote attributed to Napoleon, was from the battle of waterloo. The one he lost because his enemy was in fact not making a mistake but knew the terrain better and was able to take advantage of what would be traditionally an ineffective position.
    Fate loves irony

  • @aryantandon3548
    @aryantandon3548 3 года назад +6

    A thing I have learned is Never short a business with high future growth potential/Future theme, no matter how crazy the valuations are

  • @bioglassmusic
    @bioglassmusic 3 года назад

    big lesson here. short selling is bad. Wall street is terrible. the system needs to be fully transparent.

  • @saleemrajab3245
    @saleemrajab3245 3 года назад +3

    One of the rules of wealth is always check your ego
    For I will say his ego made him fall.

  • @DanWhe
    @DanWhe 3 года назад +1

    There are a lot of so called tech companies that actual do not provide tech hardware or software, these are the tech companies to short because all their income is derived from investors, such as Weworks

  • @Toxic-th4si
    @Toxic-th4si 3 года назад +9

    Did you say "Prestigious" Cornell University?

    • @leonleon2021
      @leonleon2021 3 года назад +2

      yep, he said it loud and clear.

  • @vladalucardtepes
    @vladalucardtepes 3 года назад +1

    There’s just some people that don’t know when to cut their losses

  • @Thomas63r2
    @Thomas63r2 3 года назад +4

    Einhorn set his pattern when he was young. The world has changed around him as he digs in on the beliefs that won him followers in the past. Reasoning has been replaced with ego. He is determined to prove himself right in a Monty Python way.

  • @brunosmith6925
    @brunosmith6925 3 года назад +2

    The penalty for arrogance and over-confidence... Coupled with a backward-looking philosophy that is proving to be the nemesis of many "traditional" analysts and observers.

  • @G-Fi-High
    @G-Fi-High 3 года назад +4

    This video has me very concerned about Einhorn’s hair, what’s going on their.

  • @1957powerwagon
    @1957powerwagon 3 года назад +1

    Next wallstreet millenial story, how tesla took down legendary investor Christian Bale, AKA batman AKA Michael Burry.

  • @charleslee2651
    @charleslee2651 Год назад +4

    This didn’t age well.

  • @SafetyBriefer
    @SafetyBriefer 3 года назад

    Einhorn has that 'just fuck my shit up' hair cut.

  • @villevalste1888
    @villevalste1888 3 года назад +6

    The way he starts blinking Morse code, when he talks about Tesla's RnD really makes wonder if he really means what he says.

    • @musaran2
      @musaran2 3 года назад +1

      "Help I am held hostage by my ego"

  • @Carson_Van_McUber
    @Carson_Van_McUber 3 года назад +1

    This is what happens when you do not have the vision to see where companies are going and only rely on the spreadsheet.

  • @jryan1024
    @jryan1024 3 года назад +7

    What a Dope. "Never interrupt your enemy..." quote if from Sun Tsu, not Napoleon.

    • @TheSofajockey
      @TheSofajockey 3 года назад

      I always wonder why people type something like you did, without taking the 2 seconds it would take to google and learn you were wrong first. The internet is right here.

    • @jryan1024
      @jryan1024 3 года назад

      @@TheSofajockey Sun Tzu said it first.

  • @angelmatos9143
    @angelmatos9143 3 года назад

    People who try to make fortunes selling failure. Best case study of greed ever.

  • @j121212100
    @j121212100 3 года назад +6

    they are gamblers who had a lucky streak

  • @nati032158
    @nati032158 3 года назад

    That heavy blinking tells me something lol

  • @mechanicallycreative9788
    @mechanicallycreative9788 3 года назад +9

    Ben Shapiro ran a hedgefund, well I'll be damned.

  • @mrvector257
    @mrvector257 3 года назад

    Finkle and Einhorn! Finkle and Einhorn! Finkle and Einhorn! ... Finkle IS Einhorn!!!

  • @babeandbii6051
    @babeandbii6051 3 года назад +5

    Einhorn isn't wrong, he just hasn't heard JM Keynes' quote that the market can remain irrational longer than you or I can remain solvent.

  • @sanket7784
    @sanket7784 3 года назад

    0:44 andy from the office just got triggered

  • @johnd.5601
    @johnd.5601 3 года назад +4

    I always go into short sellers stocks they short it's the easiest place to find a big winners because they short terrible companies so the great ones stick out...lol

    • @tenzinpassang4812
      @tenzinpassang4812 3 года назад

      is there a website that keeps track of that?

    • @johnd.5601
      @johnd.5601 3 года назад

      @@tenzinpassang4812 Yes of course there is and it's totally free and everyone get access to it at the same time.

  • @Tchild2
    @Tchild2 3 года назад +1

    Tesla took down a $12 billion hedge fund? Wowee, Tesla is a 650 billion dollar enterprise.

  • @anthonyanth8368
    @anthonyanth8368 3 года назад +3

    I dont know. I think Einhorn's analysis of Telsa is correct however he could not have anticipated the sheer effect that Elon Musk the person has on the stock exchange. This hype driven world that we live in is such that even if Elon Musk invested in Rock Pets the stock will Moon without any intrinsic increase in revenue.

    • @dansands8140
      @dansands8140 3 года назад

      It wasn't correct. Tesla isn't just another car company; anyone who drives a Tesla becomes a Tesla shill, because it's an entirely different experience; the instant torque and silent motors feel like playing a video game, but with acceleration. Not doing due diligence and screwing around in a P100D for a day or two destroyed him.

  • @scottthompson7208
    @scottthompson7208 3 года назад

    Even a blind dog finds a bone sometimes. Hard to sympathize with a guy that is gifted 900 million to start with and lives on the hoped for downfall of a company.

  • @joeverna5459
    @joeverna5459 3 года назад +3

    i recently drove a Tesla 3 and i was blown away. i would never short Tesla.

  • @NitishKumar-jm7ec
    @NitishKumar-jm7ec 2 года назад +1

    Sad part is that he is right about tesla but such a bad timing got swept away by EV wave 😞

  • @vincentwhite7693
    @vincentwhite7693 3 года назад +8

    I feel a little sorry for the guy. Unlike many short sellers, he thinks he's doing the right thing.. BTW I own TSLA.

  • @LtDan-yt7lb
    @LtDan-yt7lb Год назад

    Imaging him opening a package from Amazon with a pair of Tesla short-shorts inside.

  • @henryclinton9317
    @henryclinton9317 3 года назад +36

    The market crash prediction has been going for months now, imagine if you've invested heavy then. The truth is no one actually knows if the crash is gonna happen. some said it will happen immediately after the election, hello we're done with the election now. You just have to invest smartly . I'm glad it worked for me with the help of an investment advisor, I recently added my $250,000 profits to my portfolio.

    • @jessicamamikina7648
      @jessicamamikina7648 3 года назад

      I heavily missed out on going into the market during the lockdown.

    • @henryclinton9317
      @henryclinton9317 3 года назад

      The real secret of building wealth is by having multiple streams of income. That includes both online and offline investments.

    • @lucythompson5841
      @lucythompson5841 3 года назад

      I'm new to the stock market, learned so much already online and obsessing atm, i need monitoring and guidance as i'm desperate to get into investing now, please can you share more info about your investment advisor?

    • @henryclinton9317
      @henryclinton9317 3 года назад

      i trade with Jessica Lee Aquiler

  • @GordonGreenCincinnati
    @GordonGreenCincinnati 3 года назад

    Could you imagine being so arrogant and full of yourself and so completely ineptly overconfident with your clients money that you short Netflix, Amazon, and Tesla at the same time?

  • @sonofamortician
    @sonofamortician 3 года назад +3

    it gives me schadenfreude seeing this kind of hedgefund bro getting things so spectacularly wrong

  • @michaeldoughty1782
    @michaeldoughty1782 3 года назад

    Also.. "You have our sympathies" cracking response Elon. 😁😆🤣

  • @samsonchan1488
    @samsonchan1488 3 года назад +6

    In contrast, in 1996, I moved out of my fathers house and went into debt in student loans, which have yet to be fully paid off.

    • @gordonmcmillan4709
      @gordonmcmillan4709 3 года назад +1

      Yes, but you are a real person, in touch with reality, and probably honest. 8-)

    • @DrTed3
      @DrTed3 3 года назад +2

      That will teach you to be born into the wrong family! Learn from it and do better next time.

    • @R281
      @R281 3 года назад

      Are you a doctor?

  • @echoeversky
    @echoeversky 3 года назад +1

    Aaaand 2021 1st Quarter TSLA production beats the crap out of street expectations.