How to Sing Like DIMASH KUDAIBERGEN
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- My take on the unique qualities of Dimash Kudaibegren and a starting point for learning how to sing like him (but not copy him). ►If your into my music and want to connect, join my mailing list! www.calebcoles... ►
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► *Here are some of my Dimash covers if that helps show what I'm talking about* :) ►
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You're so right. We shouldn't try to sing like Dimash. There's already one of him! There's also only one of YOU! Build on that and be the best YOU there is! Brilliant!!
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I am not criticizing dimash.. but I have heard some people complain about his upper 5th octave mixed belts and say his mix voice is not much resonant and he just strains and squeaks in mix above G#5. What do you think about it? Because personally I find no issues but still could you give a clarification on that part.
Very good tips and explanation!! Thanx and congrats!!👍👍👏👏
Hey bro dimas has released his new song in his channel please react to jt
right, Dimash is unique, he has created his own style in music like no other, it makes it unique ...
imitating him does not make sense, because we have no chance for him ... I think each of us is unique in his own way ... let's be ourselves !!! Caleb Coles,
he is an experienced musician, he analyzes very well ... he is fair, he is not jealous of him ... I like to listen to him, especially his opinions.
I honestly have the potential and even the vocal range.
A0 - E8
Привет из России!!! Благодарю :Вас за реакцию на Димаша!!! В это непростое время для всего Мира вы продолжаете радовать Нас своими классными реакциями на ДИМАША!!! Лучшего Певца Современности!!! Спасибо!!!!!!
Thank you. Appreciate it !!
Caleb Coles Music 👌❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@user-tl2kf2ei7b you can speak English. Why are you typing Russian?
@@CalebColesMusicPLEASE HELP HOWHIW CAN I HAVE ASBJG AVOCAL RANGE AS HE OR CLOSE PLEASE I WANT TO HIT. KTES IN SIXTH AND SEVENTH OCTAVE PLEASE??!! HOPE TO HEARFROM YOU!
@@CalebColesMusicthanks for sharing this video but why do you think the sounds at 12:46 and 13:00 or so are ugly I'm curious? I think they sound nice and pretty..thanks for sharing
Димаш -- ЭТАЛОН, Димаш - ПРИМЕР, мастерство Димаша ИЗУЧАЮТ - очередной этап завоевания МИРА.
Димаш-проводник ДУШИ в Мир МУЗЫКИ! Димаш поёт не для ушей,а для Души!
@@alexgolubev8891 Очень красиво написали👍
Hi man,i love your reactions,you're so chill,I love Dimash,in my opinion he's the best singer in the world i haven't heard anyone like him,not just about the vocal part but the emotions he brings with each song that he signs ,He's so talented,God bless him,i hope i can learn how to sing someday .
Completely agree. It is how he uses his voice to bring out this emotions which is so powerful!!
Dear Caleb, thank you for this video for the nice comments about Dimash's genius. You are such a kind and generous heart. Many blessings and stay safe.
Thank you for every reaction you done for Dimash.Dimash is the 8th wonder of the world.it is undeniable.❤❤❤
КАЛЕБ! ВЫ УМНЫЙ ПЕВЕЦ,СПОСОБНЫЙ ПОКАЗАТЬ ПУТИ РАЗВИТИЯ ГОЛОСОВЫХ ВОЗМОЖНОСТЕЙ ДРУГИМ ПЕВЦАМ НА ПРИМЕРЕ ДОСТИГНУТОГО ДИМАШЕМ! ВЫ ДОСТОЙНЫ БОЛЬШОГО УВАЖЕНИЯ!
Thank you :)
This is brilliantly spoken!
Thanks!
This is a master class Caleb! Exactly what I've been looking forward to!
Thanks, I probably could have edited it down more because I ended up repeating myself a bit haha. But hope it got accross :)
@@CalebColesMusic You stated it just fine. I really appreciate your interpretation. It reminded me of your explanation for Marc Martel having similar physiologic structures in his airways and sinuses, etc. I noticed he even withdraws his lower lip like Freddy Mercury did. Fascinating! I guess we need to be a doppelganger to really mimic sounds of these singers. There's still only one of them and one of each of us. Makes me appreciate that more.
One of the best reactions and CONVINCING ABILITY TO CONNECTS A SINGER LIKE DIMASH.💖💝
Caleb great video! I love you expressed to everyone be you! Do not try and sound like Dimash, There is only one Dimash. ♥️ Caleb you have a very beautiful voice and tone to match. You have a blessed day and Stay Safe. 🇺🇸💕
Thanks so much. Be blessed and stay safe also :)
He Cole, Dimash is unique, he has created his own style in music, he is so talent, Dimash is perfectión. Dimash the best singer in the world. Thank you for this video for a nice comments about Dimash genius. Many blessings and stay safe.🤩💖💖💖💖
part of my our culture of story telling and learning abt you western pple... we are nomads...
Thank you for the insight into Dimash's singing! ❤️
Caleb, thanks!!! Вам пора писать статьи в серьёзные музыкальные издания! 🙂 А в будущем заняться и преподавательской деятельностью ( а может быть Вы уже преподаёте?). А пока пойте - у Вас это тоже классно получается!👍👍👍
Thank you! I used to teach, I am not currently teaching :)
I am really happy that you made this singing tutorial and this is really useful. I was like searching what techniques Dimash use in singing for like years and now I've got it which made me really happy. So thank you for that and I hope you will make more tutorials in future.
Excellent video, Caleb! Be the best version of you. ❤❤❤
I wish I could sing lol. A voice teacher said, if you can speak, you can sing. I loved your video, so thank you very much.
Caleb, thanks for very professional reaction 👍
your videos on singing are incredible man. you're a great singer and you explain things very well i'm finally having some success in developing my head dominate mix and this makes a lot of sense.
That's awesome, so glad your having some success! Keep going and all the best :)
Thanks form Athens ☀️ 👍 good job, DIMASH FOREVER 💓 🚀 🎤
As always, very educational and well explained. It might be a little too complex for me (I don't know the basics well enough yet), but your demos really helped clear things up. Keep up the good work Caleb!
Love people that been inspired by some perfection just thinkfully work harder to improve themselves, their skills.... eventually to make our world better... and inspire others to go higher showing the way ....and you are! Thank you so much!!!!
Thank you so much for the super reaction.👌100✔
You are a good teacher, Caleb👏😊i have a better understanding why im so drawn to Dimash that no other singer can. His mastery of all techniques are to be reckoned with esp at a young age. I really love everything about him and you too, is a also good singer and a very humble person.❤❤hope you do more of this kind of videos coz i really enjoyed and learned a lot from it.😍😍😍be safe..dear from canada
Thank you, I will do more. God bless, stay safe also.
Исполняет Димаш!
To sing like Dimash, you first have to study for 20 years and still have a vocal coach. You can pretend to sing like Dimash but right now no one is singing like Dimash. Plus with Dimash, I believe there’s also genetics. He was born with a talent that you can’t just develop by practice. 😊
and thats is fact caleb has a good voice but not near Dimash..
Orange Trees I wasn’t critiquing Caleb, I was stating facts. There’s a lot that goes into Dimash’s voice and style of singing. With a voice like Dimash’s most singers would have been out there singing for the public like crazy. He waited, trained, and studied before singing in public. I’m sure there’s a lot of his mother’s operatic genes in him, because of the way he hits those high notes without strain. They call it falsetto but for Dimash, that’s his natural voice. There’s no strain to hit those notes. You have to be born with that. No amount of practice in the world is going to get you there. You can kinda sing like Dimash but right now there’s only one. 😊
He's only 24, so I doubt he's even studied it for 20 years, it's clearly talent, research and alot of work. I wonder if he does speech singing technique to get his wonderful range or whether he has a different method
The Free Range Duck Dimash is from Kazakhstan and they start their children early, studying music. Dimash started studying classical music at the age of 5. He is 26 years old. He has finished his masters degree in music and is working on his doctorate. The pandemic has slowed him down. He was supposed to come to America to do an internship studying jazz and other styles of music. Dimash still has a trainer that he works with. Pavarotti had a trainer that he studied with until he died in his 70’s. Pavarotti is one of Dimash’s idols. This is what Dimash has that a lot of people don’t have and that he’s studied music for several years, all kinds of music. He was offered a job to sing opera but he did not want to just sing opera. He had other styles in mind. He is a composer, director, producer which gives him a big head start on most singers. He works hard on his music. What makes Dimash special is that in spite having all of his talent, he’s still a very humble and caring young man. We can’t say that about all of the singers out there. 😊❤️
@@BH-sn7ws listen himself ruclips.net/video/ntVENkspiVU/видео.html
there is no musical gene, just musical education and a lot of hard work.
Educational and entertaining at the same time! Fantastic!
Dimash é mesmo Fenomenal e apaixonante em qualquer rítmo e ou idioma que cante!! Incrível!! Um Príncipe e Mago da música!! Inigualável !!
O maior e melhor cantor do planeta !!
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Thank you so much Caleb! I love your reactions on Dimash. You have a beautiful voice and I really like your songs! I especially like that you don’t get intimidated by or become jealous of Dimash. Instead, you feel inspired and motivated to improve your own singing. Dimash would be so happy. That is exactly his goal in life! He said in a recent interview that he is going to get his PhD and he then wants to teach (he is currently working on his Master’s degree in composition). I found your comments on this video very interesting and informative! Bravo. 👏👏👏 ❤️❤️
Thanks so much. I didn't know Dimash was doing that! Wow. He certainly is inspiring many people which is incredible :)
Caleb Coles Music 👍
Dimash Kudaibergen - Across Endless Dimensions !!!!!!!!!!!!! Супер!!!!!!
You talk about the technical side - the contrast - the low and the high
But singing like Dimash,
Or as excited as Dimash,
You have to talk about the spiritual side.
I saw a very good singer's show - singing beautifully the high and the low
His sounds at SOS were almost perfect
But he didn't take me to where Dimash takes me
In poetry and music - the soul speaks. and probably a soul like Dimash, has only Dimash.
When people say great singers are born not made its true in one important sense. Could you theoretically through hard work and technical learning approach the skill and ability of Dimash ? Yes possibly. What he has that very, very few posses is a timbre and tonal quality that I believe is what many identify as the "thing" that they identify as a born singer. This is an anatomical component that each individual possesses, the structure of the mouth and throat, vocal cords, resonating chambers etc... Great job giving people the road map to take inflict from Dimash without being completely intimidated.
Thoroughly enjoyed your vid addressing emotions and techniques.
I didn't come here for singing, but because I love Caleb's videos and Dimash looking so good in the thumbnail
Great video!!! Take care of yourself! Love from China❤️
Well the problem i have with the covers are: Its sounds rly great, but edited. I know you are a awesome and crazy good singer, but it sounds like packed lines together not actually sang in one row.
That makes Dimash so special. He does it live with no editing, autotune and so on ;)
Besides that. I love your tone and sound of your voice. And it is great to see you improve!!
Wow Caleb, I absolutely love the way you break things down about singing and the explaining how the vocal cords work. You do in such a way that's more relatable and understandable than most coaches. That's a bunch. 👍
new song from DIMASH in english....ACROSS ENDLESS DIMANSIONS...great song greetings from CANADA
This video was indeed helpful. It landed some key concepts and helped me hit some of the notes easily!
Glad it helped!
Very well articulated Caleb! Much appreciated. I have heard and enjoyed your songs very much. The very thing I like about you is that you are your own man and you have a wonderful voice as well.
I am eagerly waiting for that frozen cover of Into the unknown.
Take care and be safe!
Thanks! You too :)
@@CalebColesMusic I think you have not done his Battle of Memories MV yet.
I think you can cover that as well! Its Chinese but 😁
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thank you Respect👍
Profi reaction !!! Thank you !
Celeb, thank you for a wonderful informative video. Although I’m not a singer, I really like learning from you as you explain things very well. I also appreciate you encouraging others to be better singers and have Dimash as a reference of hard work and dedication to become a master in his craft. Thanks and I look forward to seeing your next video.
Thank you!
Very informative, thank you 💕
You made a great general point about emotion. One of my favorite Dimash songs is Love is Like a Dream. And yes he does have what I call the “angel intermission” and the big note at the end. But even if the song didn’t have those moments, I would still be totally pulled into the story he is telling because of the emotion in his performance.
hola subtitulado de tus reacciones please 🙏para los latinos que miramos tus reacciones gracias saludos
You are fantastic. All the best. Keep safe during these hard times.
Grasias amigo por tomar como ejemplo a Dimash ! Definitivamente despues de Dimash todos los cantantes que vienen en un futuro tienen que trabajar mucho para lograr lo que este niño hoy en dia es un ejemplo a seguir 😃👍! El es el antes y un despues ! 😇
Love your vocal tips videos! You seem like a great teacher and would to see more. Maybe a video on developing a loud powerful mixed voice
Thanks, I'll do that in the future!
This is the core of being the vocal coach and teacher. 👏👏👏👏👏👏
incredible break down on how to mold yourself in to anything you want
thank you. stay safe.
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Galeb- послушайте композицию к фильму с участием Жерар Дипартье
Это бомба!
Как называется фильм?
Подскажите, кто знает .
Я уже давно слышала про этот фильм, но не знаю английский. У Димаша это уже пятый саундтрек и все гениально исполнены. Вообще-то всё что он исполнил гениально, но саунтреки мои самые, самые любимые, ,, Go!Go!Power Rangers,, ,, Битва воспоминаний,, ,,Я не могу уйти,, обожаю!!!
I did that, he helps me understand limits and extremes of limits.
Super explanation Caleb THANKS 👏
The absolute first SOS performance most of you saw was the Chinese singing competition,,, this was done after, although not much difference in time, but it was already honed in its technique,,, but for me the emotional level was higher than the first, but it's hard for us laypeople to do that. And then there are the excellent singers... thanks for the amazing reaction
Dimash is a wonderful teacher for other singers.
Dankeschön, Caleb!
Thanks you for your clear explanation. I like hearing the way you speak, i can understand . I am French.
Good message
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽✌️✌️✌️Caleb, you are excellent teacher and wonderful man! Thank you for sharing your knowledge! 💖❤️💚💜💙💝💕
Hi Caleb, thanks a lot! You being very innovative and I really like your channel. It is great to have these masterclasses, you are so right that we need to learn from the best and strive to improve ourselves all the time. Thank you for your efforts, sincerity and hard work!
Thanks so much, appreciate the support :)
For the contrast to truly work requires a great composer! Plamondon is one of Québec's most amazing!!
Hola, yo soy solo una dear de Dimash, no canto nada, pero me encanta el enfoque que les das, lo valorable de esto es que tu eres un cantante y por lo que veo estas libre de "EGO", que hace que muchos cantantes fracasen. Me encanta que sientas que puedes aprender de él y enseñarle a las personas que no hay que competir ni envidiar, sino que hay que aprovechar las oportunidades de aprender de los mejores en cualquier ámbito. Te felicito por eso!!!💐🎖🏆🥇
Si tuviera que describir a Dimash en pocas palabras y lo me me transmite te diría es un "bello Príncipe Kazajo, de Ojos que Embrujan y Voz que Encanta"..., un abrazo desde Chile, el último lugar del mundo y cuidate mucho...
Awesome video! This is explained how Dimash is become a icon and his style. Thank you
Yes thanks for the tips.. I really want to sing sos, i love your cover on that.. i am watching more on your videos so i can be one, even if i will not reach my dreams..😊
Thanks Mr Caleb,more rock songs cover and reactions please!
I have no talent for singing or music, so of course - like all disgruntled failures - I put on a critic's hat!
Alas, there's nothing to criticize in this video. Good thing it's not my day job.
Dimash's extraordinary performances are made possible by his ridiculous mastery of so many techniques, but - as you explained - also by the way he uses his techniques to create drama. Dynamic changes, from barely singing at all through mad belting and everything in between, all of the colors and textures he employs across his extensive range, are his tools.
His stage presence also contributes to the drama he creates: the way he uses his eyes, his gestures, his posture and movements. He's acting as well as singing. As a wanna-be critic, I observe that some of this staging isn't always perfect. But sometimes, it darned well is.
I felt that his staging for 'Your Love' was awkward and distracted from the lyrics. His staging for 'Love Is Like a Dream' and many of his other songs was perfection. It takes time to plan, practice and deliver the physical choreography for a song, and he's been so prolific... I think he doesn't always invest the time to perfect his staging. But when he does, it's a game-changer.
But his stagecraft might not matter very much if he had not already honed the drama in the song itself, his vocalizations for it. He doesn't skimp on that aspect of his craft.
So, Caleb, you've just added vocal coaching to your channel. Today's video was a visit to the sausage factory. Anyone who wants to make sausages should pay close attention! Or even people like me, who just want to understand what great singers are doing to create great performances. Today's lesson was a good one.
Your core message was spot-on. Nobody should aspire to sound like Dimash; they should instead aspire to be the best version of themselves they can be.
Perhaps you should accept online students? A teacher's pay isn't a path to riches, but musicians everywhere are experiencing income losses due to the pandemic, and a fellow has to put food on the table... and you *are* an expert.
I think I will do some more vocal orientated videos in the future if they are helpful to people :) It is something I definitely enjoy so if others do that I'll keep it going.
I know what you mean in regards to the drama. I also think Your Love is Like a Dream was staged really well. I personally didn't notice anyting off-putting about the staging in Your Love, but there have been a few staging moments that I have. I personally prefer just to see him sing, close up on him with a centred performance. But that is just me.
I may end up doing more teaching in the future, I have taken a break from it at the moment but I could well get back into it :)
@@CalebColesMusic In 'Your Love,' towards the end, do you remember how Dimash turned his back on the audience and did a little skip-dance?
That's the worst of it. But in general, there's no connection between his choreography and the lyrics, which are definitely *not* carefree. He did rather too much awkward twisting, too. He reminded me of Jim Carey going overboard to mine humor from physicality. Wrong time, wrong place for it.
I only brought up teaching because online vocal coaching can easily be done without risk from the pandemic, and it's a potential income source. Classroom teaching might not be such a good idea right now.
I like nuts-and-bolts videos concerning art. Pianists practicing for their next concert and revealing what's hard and what's easy for them, analysis of other singers' performances, methods and techniques, sausage-making. Why? I dunno. Not because I'll ever sing. Unless tastes change, and hoarse moose-call-like singing becomes fashionable.
Yeah, probably not.
My preferences shouldn't matter. Creators should first please themselves with their creations, y'know? If it's not fun, it's the wrong direction for your art.
@@Urgelt Yeah I know what you mean, although I didn't notice it on first watch because I was too focused on the vocals!
Good point, I'm actually thinking through what value I could bring in terms of teaching and utilising the online medium. I have a few ideas but I'll just process them and see if something comes of it.
Also sorry for the late reply this one slipped through somehow.
@@CalebColesMusic No apology is required. Content creator engagement is optional - and will be increasingly time-consuming if your comments section continues to expand. At some point it will become irrational to even bother with it.
I enjoy interacting with you, but I also wish for your success in this medium. Once you achieve the latter, the former is all but ruled out. I accept that. I'll still enjoy your content and probably leave comments, but expecting responses from increasingly popular RUclipsrs is delusional. I try very hard not to be delusional! :-)
@@Urgelt I think we are all delusional in our own unique way. After all if we are aware it's a delusion, it is no longer a delusion!
I think though that I always want to stay connected to the people who go for the journey with you, like yourself. Your thoughts are always very helpful so I appreciate the interaction with people I know are thoughtful and care about music. So If I ever don't respond one day, keep commenting because I'll be on the lookout for your comments :)
Hi Caleb, yes tecnique is important but most important is TALENT which is the thing that gives "colors" to the tecnique you learn and practice, talent is something that comes directly from your soul and is impossible to "learn" it, I play guitar and I love David Gilmour I can learn every single notes of his solos but I can't play like him nobody can becouse there is only one David Gilmour(only one soul named David Gilmour)
Merci ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
This man explains Dimash perfectly.
Super reactions and singing technique advise! Thanks. Dimash just released a new song this week called "Across Endless Dimensions. Please react to this song. . This song takes us to other dimensions lyrically and through Dimash's other-worldy interpretation of the subject matter. You will see in this song the real alien that is Dimash. Across Endless Dimensions is a song from the sci-fi move "Creators: the Past"
What is the weakness from Dimash (beside his English)😉.
Nice tutorial,, 😊 😀
Hello Caleb from an Australian viewer, I just saw a fantastic new video by Dimash by the RUclips channel 100elisimo. I don't know if is from a new Science Fiction movie coming out because it shows clips of one. The title of it is DIMASH ACROSS ENDLESS DIMENSIONS. I'd love it if you could do a reaction to that particular version of the song. The singer does some crazy high notes at the end. It just came out hours ago.
How to sing like Dimash => Be born again
And what should he do if the new person, who should be Dimash is a second Justin Bieber? )))))))
Dimash Kudaibergen - Across Endless Dimensions - please react to this new song - is so rocky at the end!
Tôi có thể thấy anh ấy rất tự nhiên.
Thank you for Love Dimash.Me too♥️
Very helpful, thanks, A Great Teacher
La técnica no importa cuando el sentimiento va de la mano con lo que canta. Dimash es Dimash y no hay razonamiento que comprenda lo que el hace. Es mi humilde apreciación
Wonderful inputs Caleb. Each one has their own personal talent, what we can probably learn from Dimash is his passion to improve & hone our talents/crafts. Please do listen & react to Dimash's new song "ACROSS ENDLESS DIMENSIONS". It's part of the track for the upcoming movie "Creators: The Past", it's composed & conducted by Piergiuseppe Zaia.The vocals on this is superb w/ a bass guitar on the middle part. Thank you & keep safe.
yes please for the follow up videos
Hey Caleb. Maybe react to Dimash & Super vocal boys queen medley. Its great :) Thanks !
Maravillosa voz, de este cantante Kazajo Dimash kudainbergen, lo adoro es un Ángel cantando, saludos desde Antofagasta Chile 🇨🇱
I'm not a singer, but this was very informative. If I start singing the people upstairs will come down to try and rescue me, lol. By the way, you look very boyish in your cap, I almost passed your video by (literally did not recognized you) but the caption Dimash woke me up, lol, sorry, but I just love him.
I was the same - it's amazing what a hat can do! Funnily enough, on Dimash's recent IG about Corona virus ("stay at home!"), he was wearing something similar - and looks about 15 years old!🤗
Haha that is so funny, they'll come try to rescue you :) Yes I wore a cap because I need a haircut and everything is shut haha!!
Hi Caleb,check out Kyo from Dir en grey band,his vocal range is about 5 octaves an his ability is amazing,go and check theme plz!
I am a big dimash fan I actually think you are excellent
Super cool as always
Very informative stuff Caleb thank you
Please React to Dimash new song Video - Screaming & Across Endless Dimension
You are so right! 👍👍👍
When you blend into head are changing the mechanism in the larynx or pulling back your throat. Bloody hard lol
If i'm switching at F4, is that too early ?
DIMASH CHANTE MAGISTRALEMENT SES 8 OCTAVES ILS LES PLACES SANS FORCER Dimash est THE VOICE 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷la france t attend 😘😘😘😘😘😘👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👐👐🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
"Chantez la meilleure version de vous-même" 👍🎶
Caleb i think you are a great fan of dimas are you ?
Very well explained,Caleb. Thank you so much! We all love Dimash. I am personally a huge fan:) But on the other note what do you think of Morten Harket from A-Ha? He seems also a brilliant vocalist with very organic way of singing often within very wide range.
Thanks. Yeah he is a really good singer. I haven't heard much A-Ha other than Take On Me and maybe a few others though :)
@@CalebColesMusic They have plenty of good songs. If you interested please check out Summer Moved On where Morten holds an exceptionally long note. Here is what Wiki says :"It was this song in which Morten Harket achieved the European record for the longest note held in a top 40 pop song; Harket sustains a chest voice note for 20.2 seconds (8 measures).". Pretty sure Dimash has already smashed that record though:)
You can learn from this because you already have a good singing voice
Damn good analyse. Well done mate.
Ой! А я вас в кепке сразу не узнала😁😁😁😁,!!!
So... Amy lee from evanescence, and floor jansen from nightwish are among those few who can sing high in head voice and powerfully in mixed voice I could say ?