Kingdom of Ife: Ife uncovered
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Professor John Picton and metallurgist Paul Craddock discuss the meaning and the making of the sculptures in the exhibition Kingdom of Ife sculptures from West Africa
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As I have written before, the British could employ skilled African / Youruba /Edo artists who copy those impressive artefacts in high quality and leave THESE objects to be displayed in the British museum and others. I am a white German but I feel , it is very important for Nigerians to receive these cultural witnesses back !
Greetings Conny
Why would they be left in England? No reason to keep them there rather than in Nigeria.
What you feel is irrelevant
They would not exist today if the British didn't secure them,
@@littlebrayutd yes they would lol, im yoruba abd we still have some of these in my homeland, you know nothing but what the education system of the west had indoctrinated into you
@@littlebrayutd That’s that thief mentally successfully passed onto you.
Where is Killmonger when you need him
EXACTLY
Killmonger is american.. Your comment is an afront to us Yorubas
Would be nice if the lineage of these art crafters talk about this art.
But we didnt, so…
Is it not time to return these beautiful objects to the Nigerian people ? Greetings Conny
Belongs to Yorubas not nigeria
Please stop making ignorant comments. These items were ON LOAN for an exhibition and returned after the exhibition!
What about the hundreds of thousands of pieces that are not on loan that were plundered and stolen? Will those be returned. The answer would be no, because then there would not be that much to show.
Wouldn't that be wild, if the British Museum only had British artefacts?
They have so much stuff hidden away in the basements, I'm sure they could actually fill every display room solely with things dug up in the British Isles.
@@itzakpoelzig330 who will fund the construction of new storage facilities and sometimes security systems in the countries those non-british artefacts came from?
@itzakpoelzig330 who will fund the construction of new storage facilities and sometimes security systems in the countries those non-british artefacts came from?
Interesting :)
Return Africa property
Good video.
You all SHOULD return all of the stolen ancient artifacts the British soldiers took. These artifacts belong to the people of Nigeria not in the British Museum.
These were on loan. People need to stop making assumptions
@@tvs9978 they werent, the britished discovered them and just took them to the uk
@@h1nsicon again making assumptions. Look up the exhibition. The national Museum of Nigeria loaned these items to the British Museum to display for a limited period of time. Basic research is all you need to educate yourself.
Why did the British steal????did not give back??????? please give back...
boshkalay bong bong
Give it back to where it belongs.
Give back the “loot”.
What loot? It already resides in Nigeria. Assumptions assumptions
The highest naturalistic civilization of the Yoruba people is a symbol of Yoruba high culture from which its philosophy, religion and literature are based. What is missing today are their ancient guilds of philosophy, their ancient religio-philosophy temples and literary works. In order to know that Yoruba people belong to the better Class of Minds, is to reflect upon their aesthetic and exquisite naturalistic works under the reign of King/Divinity-Philosopher Oduduwa.
Yemi-d Prince ancient yoruba guild are in benin d place is igun
Yemi-d Prince Well said
Wow looking at sculpture, one can only envision a few mad genius at work.
I am a young New Zealander and I am very interested in Yoruba history and culture. E se gan ni for this articulate heads up
i think the works should be returned back to the people to be kept by themselves.
THANK YOU.
The majority are in Nigeria. They mainly have Benin artifacts. Only one Ife head.. This was on loan at the time fora world tour.
@Hotepmuhdykkk Knjgjurz I don't think they are from The Kingdom of Ife. Most seem from The Kingdom of Benin.
Abi
@@Boboempressk9699 you are welcome
These artefacts was stollen from Africa and should be returned immediately. Thousands of men women and children were murdered in the theft of African art. Disgusting.
We can't maintain them
If they didn’t kill them off we would know for sure instead of ‘could be and maybe’.
Britain didn't kill any groups off in Nigeria. There are over 50 million people that trace their lineage back to Ife. They could simply go to Nigeria and ask the people what it means, and they'd tell them.
You are talking nonsense
GIVE BACK THE ART WORK IT IS NOT YOUR HERITAGE
To be fair these with the exception of one are in Nigeria.
@@WilliamGarrow What are you talking about, can’t you see that there are a variation of sculptures are in their museums that do not belong to them, traitor!
@@vab6738 The Ife bust are in Nigeria. These are not in the British museum they were on loan when shown. The stolen artifacts in the British museum are from the Benin empire. A separate kingdom in Nigeria. So please actually pick up a book before you comment.
They gave some back and they sold they the Europe and Asia
@@WilliamGarrow still doesn't mean the British should keep them
Okay, let me help The British Museum out!! The pattern on the faces of those bronze head figures is distinguish between Clans!! Its still done today but only in small remote places!! 😊😊🌍
ur helping me on my dissertation, thanks so much
Isn' t it called tribal marks ? I watched on utube that modern Nigerian women mostly dislike this tradition. Greetings Conny
They don't know anything about our culture /history pls don't tell them
@@connys.-a.8271 We do not put tribal marks on our face anymore, we put on our stomach
Not all of it some were made for relief purposes while the holes were made air could go in and out during molding
Why does it hurt my heart when they Say, English Museum, and Not, "In the hands of Yoruba people?
give Mother Africa her property
Africa doesn't exist. Its colonial concept.
I am direct lineage of Obalufon. I find this fascinating
They are stunning, do you know what the holes in the heads symbolize
@@diouranke The hole in the head symbolises where the hairline starts from and those on the chin/neck signify the beard/facial hair pattern
@John Sheppard what...
John Sheppard wth are you talking about?
@John Sheppard you don't have to be disrespectful towards people of African ancestry simply because your own ancestors are Neanderthals.
Great acient ife Kingdom
We will have those sculptures back-- EVERY single one of them-- we will have them back.
You stole them!
oruba Believes The Head Is The Most Important Aspect Of Human. Many Of Their Scrupture
Has Large Head. What does head means to Yoruba?
Ori (known as Orí in Latin America) is a Yoruba metaphysical concept.
Ori, literally meaning "head," refers to one's spiritual intuition and destiny. It is the reflective spark of human consciousness embedded into the human essence, and therefore is often personified as an Orisa in its own right. It is believed by the Yoruba religion that human beings are able to heal themselves both spiritually and physically by working with the Orisa to achieve a balanced character, or iwa-pele. When one has a balanced character, one obtains an alignment with one's Ori or divine self. It is also believed that Ori be worshiped like Orisa. When things are not going right, Ori should be consulted. And to make things right Ori should be appeased. This is because whatever one becomes or whatever happens in one's life is as destined by Ori.
Its at the British museum because...🥴
Because they were on loan. That's what Museums do you know, loan works to other museums so different populations can be exposed to art from different provenances
Return our property!!!
You're being stupid. The works were in loan from the National Museum of Nigeria
They didn't need the greeks.
The Greeks learnt everything they knew from Africans
the greeks learned evrything from the nile valley africans. not a coindidence shango is similar to zeus
THIEVES
How are they thieves?
Would you return it now, please?
Why do you assume they were stolen?
@@tvs9978 cuz they were stolen
@@THEONLYOBA that's an assumption on your part and an erroneous one. I suggest you read up on this particular exhibition before displaying your ignorance
Non-African people need to see the beauty of African culture. Giving back all the arguably plundered artifacts isn't necessarily for the best. White people seeing only white artifacts because all the African ones are no longer in the museums is not going to help civilizations get along
I 1000% agree especially when the diaspora needs the world to see these to combat the lies of African antiquity
Not yr story!!!!!!!!
These works should be returned to Nigeria. ALL of them! They belong to the people of Africa!
They were on loan. Grow up
@@tvs9978 On loan. Right. For how long? Forever? YOU grow up!
@@juanitafortune5106 what a twat you are. Have you never heard of museums loaning exhibitions to other museums, or do you think the National Museums of Nigeria are too incompetent to loan to other museums? Your ignorance is ridiculous
Thanks for sharing
Great Ile Ife
You can't analyze what you know nothing about. Thieves. Return the artifacts to rightfully owners.
Return our artifacts
This art belongs to Africa.
It is already in Africa
No it belongs to the yorubas
Devuelvan el Moai
I Think they should be left right there (if they are in the British museum) where they are appreciated. I've never seen a Nigerian video or documentary about these African masterpiece.
Hi.
Why aren't they still producing these works of art?
We are
Give it back to them NOW
We will get it back soon.
.so for what reason are they in Britain? Have these people no shame???
Hi.
Hi
Hi.
Give us our treasures back you frauds
Thieves showing off their illegally usurped treasures. Stand by your own western standards and return them to their rightful owners. Oya Yoruba
Showing your ignorance eh?
Instead of saying it could be this, why don't they both go to Africa and speak to the people there about the african sculptures. Oh i forgot it would be dangerous for them to go there and talk about the art which was stolen from them.
this is exactly what I was looking for
Right? They're acting like this culture fell off the face of the earth after these bronzes were made.
Don't worry, people from that country won't necessarily understand these artifacts, it's the same thing as saying that a German understands his history because he's German.
And which region of Africa? The Yoruba are south of West Africa, not all of Africa. Will you approach a Moroccan or Ethiopian and ask him about this culture so distant and different from his own?
What is this
woww
The exhibition comprised of works ON LOAN from the National Museums of Nigeria. Nothing to return because they had not been stolen and have since travelled back to Nigeria.
A.
Plane ticket to New Orleans.
shouldve been more concerned with making weapons not heads maybe it wouldve turned out different.
They made weapons as well and had structure and buildings to infact the ancient nok culture of Nigeria entered the iron age before the rest of the world my friend
@@sponsponm1 3500 years ago!
@@sponsponm1 thanks for defending us. The levels of misinformation about West Africa is disheartening
Interesting when he is trying to describe the reason for the marks on the sculpture, he ends by saying it could be for this or that but we know nothing; however these works of art are still being produced by descendants in Nigeria they know exactly what everything means on the sculptures.
The first art that man was talking about is Edo not IFE
Yup
Sculpture was first built in Ife they teach the Edo historically edo gas connection with Ife
Ife don't cast bronze, the bronze works belongs to the Benin bronze casters.
@oluwatishe yaribawa man spotted, can you tell us were bronze casting is located in ile ife? All those artifacts belong to the Benin, till date even ile ife refused to civilized, let alone teaching Benin how to cast bronze, can you give what you don't have? Idiot that can not debate without insulting. Prove it to the world were ile ife ever cast bronze? You guys are jokers. Cunning and unreliable yariba people.
@oluwatishe apart from mere propaganda and noise making, what prove do you have that ife predates igodomigodo? Before oduduwa your progenitor was born igodomigodo has been in existence, oduduwa is a Benin prince, who left igodomigodo to found ile ife, and rule over the ife people. Ile ife does not cast bronze in old, let alone now, except you which to point to any location of ife bronze casters guide. You coward, always try to undermine the great Benin history, so you can be relevant, that has to stop, never body can ever to the glory of Benin history for themselves, it won't happen again. Yariba asa people are less than 150years in existence. I know ignorance is your problem, i advice you to go study proper history and not the fallacy you called Yoruba history.
@oluwatishe we all know how the yaribawa people join the colonial masters to invade Benin empire, Ado-Ekiti, Ondo, Eko etc were all under great Benin empire, to stole our artifacts with the of your forefathers, and try all they can to change the Benin history, just for the yaribawa people to be relevant. Till date, ile ife has not been able to produce a replicate of those bronze they always lay claim to. Yariba is a language and not a tribe, you speak oyo-ibadan language does not make yariba, there are lot of Benin's speaking yariba language, all thanks to British for imposing the oyo-ibadan language on the old western region, which they still used in teaching in schools across the south west region. Ozour, go and study real history book and not mere propaganda, rather no longer hold water.
@oluwatishe you should first ask yourself, how come about the nineteen ethnic languages that now speak oyo-ibadan as general language? When a Ado-Ekiti man speaks his dialects Ondo man will not understand, except they speak the oyo-ibadan general language.
@oluwatishe i hate noise making, can you give what you don't have, you teach Benin bronze casting, yet no traces of bronze casters in yariba land? Can you tell me were ile ife bronze casters are located?, there were no artificial dug up in ile ife, it was a mere propaganda, by the British colonial master to appropriate Benin history and civilization, just to make there new found servant yariba to be relevant in the history of Nigeria. Ondo, Ado-Ekiti, Eko were all part and parcel of great Benin empire, they all have their various dialects they speak, before oyo-ibadan language was imposed on them through schools and social gathering. Don't be a ignorant fool, speaking oyo-ibadan language doesn't make you a yariba, there are alot of Benin's who speak oyo-ibadan today, but that doesn't make them yariba.
They say Africa is in darkness, Africa is a sunny beautiful continent Europe is the one in darkness.
Yes from Ghana we know
But we no be for the same tribe, so shut up.
@@alisha-qb4bs shut ur mouth u fuvking prick
@@austin2k994 nope
Why are Ghanaians like this, it's irritating
@@uchannel7892 why are Nigerians like this? It's beyond irritating
man, this stuff really is just junk huh, its like its supposed to be something important, I dont know anyone who truly cares about this bs. Im here because i have to be.
Who asked?