Dante Ross: Grand Puba & Lord Jamar Egos Led To Brand Nubian Breakup
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- Yanadameen Godcast episode 271, segment #2
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That Puba’s I See Dead People on his Retroactive album was super slept on.. 🔥🔥
Lord Jamar' s 5% album was a slept on gem and that booklet that came inside that CD gave me a historical understanding of the 5% nation. Favorite track on that project is "The Cipher". I still play it to this day....
Classic album
Haha, he's so ridiculous it's funny
We need another one.
CLASSIC FORM FRONT TO BACK!!!
Been a Brand Nubian fan since they first dropped. They collaborated with Common Sense in a song titled “Maybe Some Day” never got the recognition it highly deserves.. 🫡🔥💯
The first three Brand Nubian albums are all classics, but In God We Trust was special.
Everything is everything....🔥🚬😤
Word
Umm...One for all is their best album. Got 5 mics in the source.
@@futurefind674 Ummmmm so because one writer gave All For One 5 mics, then that automatically makes All For One their best album, according to your logic… this is why rap fans be having the worst opinions lmao! I bet you’re one of those dudes who rates rappers based on the amount of albums they sell…
@@swanm3ta850 Lol. I just mentioned it as proof of my own opinion, Ma'am. May I suggest Midol? Every woman I've ever known says it's helped THEM with their menstrual cramps, too! 😉👌🏾
Brand Nubian needs to be talked about way more when we discuss rap groups who lost what most people acknowledge as their head member in Puba, yet it's debatable that their sophomore album was even better. How they rebounded after Puba left was historical.
Everything Is Everything doesn’t get talked about enough either IMO... all without Puba too, Jamar was at the forefront of the wave orchestrating live musicians for the production, and it’s just a fully cohesive album.
I feel like it made way more of an impact & influence on the future than people would like to give it credit for...
This is why I love hip hop and we gotta give it up to all our pioneers.Salute to the Architects 🫡
The beat on Wake UP is one of the dopest beats from that era of Hip Hop. Puba crushed it! I still listen to that song on a regular basis.
Sample is Another Day by Ray Goodman and Brown also Roy Ayers for the hook
Appreciate the honesty and transparency during this reflection Lord.
Don't let it go to your head really has a strong meaning to me know. Alamo and myself had a few conversations about what you spoke on. Brand Nubian taught many people who we really are and what we stand for. In God We Trust was heat. Hopefully another BN album to add to hip hop history.🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤
It's funny how ego's broke up the group. But the group did a song called "Don't Let It Go To Your Head" talking about egos.
😂 Ironic but makes perfect sense! By the time they reunited for that, they grew & learned so much more
@@CantTellYou and a track called just don't learn
I believe Diamond looped his version of the Lou Donaldson BECAUSE Prince Paul and De La used it first to change it up. Because the loop starts with the snare and loops around to a drum shuffle then back to the snare. That change up in the loop drew me into the song then when he dropped the "Rocky" horn on it... It was a WRAP for me! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
To Lord Jamar. Whats stopping Brand Nubian from reuniting and creating new music? You guys still have the talent, skills, and resources. I believe you guys can release new music and crush the game. Your music is sorely missed and needed. And this is coming from a man that remembers you before you started rhyming, hanging out on Huegonot St in front of The Chatter Box.
Man, they're middle aged dads & husbands. The deals they get now would ask them to tour for months and probably get way less money than they made before. Music business has changed with 360 deals. You don't see many older artists still going because its all about the label making the money.
@@ltopomcfly5583Touring is different from dropping music. Many artists are independent and they are doing their thing with downloads and RUclips. Lord Jamar has a studio and is pretty active making beats and writing rhymes, Derrick X is still active. I haven't heard anything from Puba in a while. Brand Nubian are masters in their craft, if these microwave rappers can drop tunes every week. I would hope that Brand Nubian could too.
@@daltonhanleyjr4142 Grand Puba released " Black from the Future" back in 2016.. fairly recent.
@@wisethescholar5779 I have that one. It actually was made in 2014/2015. It's almost 10 years ago. These guys should try to make some music at least every 12-15 months
@ltopomcfly5583 what makes you think they need deals?
1st Brand Nubian Album?!....1 of The Most Underrated Hip Hop Albums EVER!! 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
Once again, Jamar, ask Large Professor how he feels about this.
R.I.P. Paul C.
TRUTH SPOKEN!!!!!! PAUL C IS AN UNKNOWN LEGENDARY PRODUCER!!!!!!!
"Cause I don't wear no Stetson hats like Paul C!" RIP Paul C and DOOM!
Paul C was simply the dude who knew certain producer tricks, like filtering and beat and sample drops. He taught people like Extra P, Eric B, D.J. Polo, and Organized Konfusion how to get the most out of their music. Nobody's really ever heard any production from him, so how they know he was a great producer is beyond me. Some people just want to sound more knowledgeable than they really are. 🤷🏾♂️🤣
@@futurefind674 His Drums are one of the most sampled drums in History. He did a slew of beats...
@@jonpoetical Name them.
Sadat X was the real One ! “/Never Front on my Brothas/ Take care of them before I take care of others ! / “
I didn't know about the 85%,10% and 5% until Brand Nubian. Salute Lord J, Puba, Sadat X, Alamo, Stud Doogie(RIP) and Sincere and the SD-50'S. RIP Geeby Dajani and John Gamble.
Damn, did you miss anybody...? 😂🤣
@@futurefind674 😂 salute Henry Templeton, the janitor in the studio where they recorded “In God We Trust”
@@CantTellYou 🤣😅🤣😅
Never knew John Gamble died, Rest In Peace to him.
Egos always break up the groups…peoples heads get big. Peace to the God Lord J.
Ego brings paranoia
Don't let it go to your head now
Good to see Lord Jamar has grown up a bit
Step to The Rear is one of my Fav Puba songs
I was at the Palladium back in '91, when Brand Nubian, KMD, and Leaders Of The New School were doing a showcase, and Brand Nubian were performing without Puba, and everybody was like "Welp, looks like Puba's pulled another Puba...!" 😂, and all of a sudden, you hear the beat start uo, and here comes Puba, strolling onto the stage, to a roaring crowd, Hilfigered down to his socks, with a backpack, and a towel, doing "Step To The Rear"! Honest to GOD, you could see the envy in Jamar's face. He stood to the side, not saying a thing, while Sadat took care of all the hype man duties. Plus, Alamo was denied access to the D.J. set, by somebody I'd never seen before, and was sulking on the side, smoking a blunt on stage. I'll never forget that show as long as I live. It was just as funny as it was entertaining. 😅😅😅😅😅
@@futurefind674 Salute!!! Thanks for sharing. No wonder Jamar came so hard on that next album without Puba.
@doncatalog Yeah, you could tell he was the happiest out of the whole crew. I liked Jamar though, and thought he was probably the second most important member of Brand Nubian because he truly embodied the 5% teachings, more than anyone else in the group. But in all honesty, it would've been some real flamboyant ish if it were just Puba and Sadat. I believe that's what it was supposed to be initially, but Sadat was loyal to Jamar and wouldn't do any projects without him, which was also smart because Puba IS such a habitual flake. 😅🤣 I'm actually FROM New Rochelle where they're from too, so a lot of stuff that went on, we know, that no one outside of New Rochelle knows.
@@futurefind674 Lord Jamar did his best work on that second album. Sadat truly became Sadat on the third. If they had kept putting pressure on each other and working as a group, we would have heard some unbeatable material.
@@futurefind674those were the days!!! PUBA AKA HAGI GOD was/is That Dude!!!!
Peace to the gods and the earths
9:03 Mature, introspective and hilarious all at the same time. Great interview
Don’t forget the legendary PAUL C!!!! LARGE PRO’s mentor. He was another white producer putting in work.
Facts!
He was ill
Didn’t Paul C put Organized Konfuzion on back in the days???
Tony D also....
I am from Cali and in God we trust just hits different
Arthur Baker was before Rick Ruben...
They're killn Puba & I'm lovin' it!! 😂😂😂 & I agree wit dem both 1000% but, I got luv 4 Puba...his solo joints were major on 1 4 All. ✊🏽😁❤️
The SD-50'S mix of "Wake Up" was dope as hell to me.
It was alright
Me too I started liking it better than the original
@@OLUSHAKIRyeah. I like the original one better!
I love how he keeps calling puba max ! Which is short for his first name which is maxwell
Great interview 🔥
Thanks for this real insight into the business back in the day verses now.. dope content!!
Gotta get my hands on that hoodie!
Dante is on point with In God We Trust besting Reel to Reel. R2R is dope but In God We Trust is a hip hop milestone album. Meaning, the hip hop world is different after the album is released.
When I heard the Arabic chant and those hard drums fading in at the beginning of "In God We Trust" I said "AWW SHIT!!... BRAND NUBIAN AIN'T PLAYIN!!
That shit was wack. Lol.
@@futurefind674 that's your opinion.
@@fredicagoillanoise1309 It is. 🤷🏾♂️
Real Hip Hop lives here!
Lord Jamar ain’t tryna pay white people for a better internet connection. 😂
Holler at me fam… black IT Specialist here
I want to hear the Dante Ross video
In god we trust was my favorite album!!
Rick Ruben, Paul C, Tony D?
Didn't that Wild Magnolias beat become "3 Strikes 5000 (Remix) " for 3rd Bass?
Don’t forget Thomas Dolby who did Whodini album
Plus Puba was doing shiesty shit behind X and J back. Not just an ego issue.
Diggin the hat. Steeler Nation.
DON’T FORGET MIKE DEAN ANOTHER YT PRODUCER PUTTING IN THE WORK ‼️🗣️‼️
I met BRAND NUBIAN & I can definitely say in that moment Sadat X was the Coolest and most Humble to talk too… that title is probably ab Actual Fact!
An Actual Fact
Typo
Co-sign. Me and my mans chopped it up with Dotty X after a show once. Dude was cool as hell.
“Red eye with the dead eye”
He said Lord J the most militant of the Godz😂😂😂😂😅
Jamar wasn't/isn't near PUBA Level
Second album was their best
Help Keith Murray don't clown him
Why does a Black adult with knowledge of self use the N word in public? Won't say the F word about gay people or the K word about Jewish people. Black people should get the same respect. People care about a dog but not a N word.....
Your kidding me nigga 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
There are even more contradictions than that...but I'll chill. WAY more, that I have been mulling over for years.
Sadat's Wild Cowboys thought it was a Classic
Had Regina Hall on there also.
Proper communication helps.
Man. The whole Brand Nubian crew was the truth.
This was a hood interview
Charlie Brown was amazing emcee dad never got true shot to shine
AWESOME WORK
Even the cover was dizope..in the truck
Yo, who dis BUILD POWER? 😂😂 I just learned that one!
🙅🏿♂️85%ers
Peace
Paul C. I leave it there.
Where Rah Digga and Godfrey?
It's crazy tho fr cause Mad white folk, male and female producing dope beats and phat on the turntables..I never thought I see the day but it's here..I aint really mad at em tho.💯✊🏾
In God We Trust is a better album than Reel To Reel... FACTS!
I always skip the Stimulated Dummies version of Wake Up……but its still a good beat.
I been up on SD-50'S since Shazzy first album and their D Nice "Crumbs On The Table" Remix.
No disrespect to Puba, but I actually like Brand Nubian without him. In God We Trust is my favorite and in my opinion their best album.
Bugging
I agree
@@OLUSHAKIRFor real. They only had two singles from that album.
Respect to Dante…….GO STEELERS!!!
Brand Nubian !
Respect but could yall stop pushin blackmarket software befor each show?
Foundation is the best album.
Foundation was an underrated album!
Foundation was an underrated album!
@@kwamesarfo-mensah5785 very underrated that could've put more singles out
RIP Geeby
And, John Gamble
could believe it
They all had a verse as a group on the RA the Rugged man posse on his last album and i believe Puba had a verse on the 110 Emcess with k slay
I felt the energy on both albums too bad bootleg infected the minds of ngz on the corners that 3 albums for $10.00 was compelling
If yall know anything about Virgos we are very stubborn when we stand on something.. and I wouldn't say my brother had an ego but strong opinions
Evan though he did Step to the rear. Donte is still a scrub
8:49? pause
I was fucking with Dante Ross and Gibby when they had the crib by the seaport- he was fucking with with a Rock group back then-
Used to get beats from him trying to get a deal at the same time.
He made some good valid points, and just to be honest if black artists had of did what they were supposed to do in the 90s they wouldn't have to relinquish power to these "whyte people" Because the only thing they're going to do with, it is exploit the shit out of it... and there's nothing that you can say to refute that because look at the game now. This is another reason why we just don't understand what's really going on because they changed our mentality back then, it was all about progress and uplifting black folks with hip-hop, but all the artists squandered their chance. And I'm so disappointed in all my favorite groups from Wu Tang all the way down to Goodie Mob. But I do understand that they were young.
Black groups always breakup at the height of their success. ALWAYS.
THat's why I give De La Soul the ultimate respect
@@dn30001 Thanks for reminding me bc I did NOT want to be right.
@@NIM11a you are correct in the sense that it always happens besides De La (RIP Dave) . I can't think of any other major groups that stuck it out throughout the years. Even with groups such as the Roots...you have to consider the times they deleted and added members from internal beef even though the group still exist. Peace.
@@dn30001 Peace
@@dn30001 I wouldnt add the Roots to that list.
Grand Puba never needed the group to be a star....he should have an EGO he was so much better than lord jamar
Chill
@@OLUSHAKIR I was just stating my opinion on an EGO in this Puba had the skills to walk it like he talk it the same can't be said for Lord Jamar.
Emphatically NO! All three are nice! Ain't no Divide & Conquer here. EGO is Edging God Out or Erasing God Out....Grand Puba had his start with Masters of Ceremony and nice; however, each of the three could and can hold their own individually and it has been proven with their respective solo releases. Also, Sadat has been on plenty of features, more than Puba or Lord Jamar. Puba had no right to have any type ego over his Brothers.
this man said some disrespectful ish about Kool G Rap last year.. smh
G raps a rap god
What did he say?
@@deezy81 something bout g raps career being a failure... some nonsense like that.. google search dante ross and kool g rap
Lord Jamar Allah
PAUL C. RIP
I was making beats and rapping in the 80's and I was white........LOL
Lord Flerf is the Karen of Hip hop
I always hated the Stimulated Dummies version of Wake Up. That's a skip for me on an album with not a lot of skipables.
The god hagi he allah god islam exact but let me slow down cause 85 cant get with that
Ez Mil - ft. Eminem - Realest
Whispering: Dante is a scrub
Both solo albums was the truth.
Lord your very disrespectful to Dante Ross … relax man
Lord Jamar was only amazing when he was trying to outrap Puba. Once they broke up, Jamar became permanent mid.
That's a GodDamn Lie!
@@BThaSmoovUno Name the songs.
Always a "J" in the background. Get them out of bfolks affairs