Man, I have a 60 and an 85 I bought 20 yrs ago and love these reels. What a great video and your knowledge is priceless with the tips! Good job! Made me subscribe.
Thanks for watching! And thanks for the Sub. Those reels will last a lifetime if properly maintained and parts are still available so keep 'em fishing! Best wishes - Dennis
Thanks for sharing another informative video. You never know when you'll chance upon one of these old LongBeach fishing reels, that's why I'm keeping your videos in a folder. You've already demonstrated the cleaning and rebuilding of several types of reels that I own. Thanks again Dennis, from a grateful old student 🙂. Stan
You are welcome. Thanks for watching and thanks for the kind words. Remember to use a parts tray and take pictures! Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis
Thank you so much for a detailed easy to follow video. I honestly thought I was going to fast forward through most of it but I was glued to the tube like a bee to the honey!
It is a joy for me to watch you work on reels here in Nova Scotia there is very few people that can work on them I do my own work on my reels I have 26 reels some are old and some are new thank you for your beautiful videos On these reels
Thanks Dennis I have a 65 never really used it, a bit of tarnish on the chrome but spins good and the ratchet works ok. Now have seen your video I may try and service it. Thanks again. John UK
Hello, very helpful video, I bought a 2nd hand 65 and the anti reverse was not working, lucily the spring was there and I could fix it and now it works properly. Greetings from Argentina.
Hey Dennis, if I wanted to increase the drag max I read somewhere that you can add an additional carbon fiber washer between the main gear and the bridge plate, my question to you is : would the added drag washer be under the the stock washer touching the plate or on top touching the main gear ? Or is the added drag washer replacing the stock washer ? Thanks for your how to vids.
To increase max drag, you need to increase surface area, so replacing them does not get that done. You should put the extra on top of the last.flat washer and then put the cap washer on before reinstalling the bridge - Dennis
Just found one of these in my basement. Do you spool the line underhand or overhand and do you run the line through those 2 horizontal posts in the front or over or under?
The reel faces up as a top mount on the pole. The line spools over the top forward bar. It does not got between the crossposts. You need to manually guide the line back and forth with your thumb as you reel in order to avoid bunching - Dennis
Dennis been trying to email you about the Penn international issue I had finally came up with a solution I ended up using some heat to free up the adjusting screw it worked reassembled the reel a it works fine don't think the sheared part for the slot will be an issue managed to fashion it count access the part anyway in the UK thanks again for help and advice Derek
Aloha! How's it going Dennis, I recently bought a Penn long beach 67 and I was wondering if the spool is interchangeable with the older style Penn 113H Special Senator Reel? TIA and great informative videos!
I can't say for certain. You are correct to note that the older 67/68 Long Beach reels shared a lot of parts with the Senator 4/0 series. I am just not certain on the spool. if you have both reels, you can swap one out and give it a try. Unfortunately, the schematics list different part numbers for the spools, but that may be a matter of one being aluminum and another being the older chromed version. Dennis
Thanks for the videos. I've repaired several penn senators and a couple of long beaches. Videos were very helpful. Got a question though; have you ever repaired or done a video on a Long Beach 66 pre 1953? I believe I have one based on the fact that it has the copper strap in lieu of the dog spring. Additionally there are some differences between post 1953 Long Beach 66 and post. The side plates are slightly different and there are some additional parts. I put it back together the way it came apart but something doesn't feel right with it. Any suggestions?
The flat dog spring was used not he early Penn Reels and most were converted over to the coil spring by 1957. The set ups on the 66 are similar throughout the production. The drag stack used thicker washers then. If it is not working right, I would get the schematic from Mysticparts.com, available in the parts section, and check the assembly again. It should be just like an older Senator black sided reel - Thanks for asking
Thanks for the response. Mystic parts for the Long Beach I have are not helpful. The model I have has the drag washers accessible from outside the reel. I did find some info looking at the 113 4/0 diagram that mentions older reels had a felt washer and a collar with drag washers being accessed outside the reel. I did this by looking at miscellaneous side plates on eBay because my side plate does not match any of the other 66s I've seen. Happy new year!
Oh and I see you did mention it is like the old senators in your original response. You were exactly right. I just didn't comprehend what you were saying until just now.
Hi Dennis, have been watching a few of your videos which have proved very informative. In the process of getting new worm and pawl for a Penn GT 320LD which should see that reel working again once installed. In regards to this video i also have my first ever reel a Peen Long Beach 66 which is overdue for a service. I notice you did not refer to the 66 in your video. Are there any notable differences i should be looking out for before i start pulling it to bits?
Robert - first, thank you for watching. The Penn 66,67 and 68 are the next size up from the others, that is why it was not mentioned in the same group as the 60 and 65. The 66 and above share the internals with the older black sided Senator 4/0. From a service perspective, the stars are the same and the location of the springs and internal parts do not differ significantly. Good luck on the tune ups. They are great reels - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle Thanks for that info Dennis. Will give it a tune up in the next few days and hopefully it all goes well. Was also wondering whether you have had a Penn GT 320LD across your bench?
I haven't done that one, but the GLS lever drag Senator is very similar. You can watch that video here ruclips.net/video/HrXV4gUzvxc/видео.html - Dennis
David. Assuming that there is not a mechanical blockage, like the end of the handle being bent and interfering with the complete turn of the knob, then the first treatment is to spray a penetrating oil like WD40 or Liquid Wrench on the base, where the shaft connects to the handle arm. If you have the rubber handle with the hole up top, then give it a squirt there as well. Let it sit for 15 minutes or so and then turn to work it free. - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle I will give it a shot. I have the whiteish yellowish hard plastic handle with the oil hole on it so i can figure out how to get some in there too... thanks for the video, Im going to try to break it down tonight and clean it up, the reel is a little tight but should clean up nicely i think. My uncle gave it to me...
Thanks for the vid Dennis! I found a Penn 60 Longbeach while cleaning out my basement and planning to restore it to like new. Is the wrench you are using to remove the handle special or would a SAE 12 point closed end wrench do the job?
It may work. You can also use a channel lock pliers and gently turn the nut if you can't make the other work in a pinch. Just be careful and not aggressive - If you send me a note to 2ndchancetackle@gmail.com with your address, I can send you the standard Penn wrench - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle Thank you so much Dennis! I'll be reaching out to you shortly. I just tested out both12pt sockets in SAE and metric and neither had positive engagement on the teeth. It must be a proprietary pattern on the nut.
Dennis, great channel! I have a penn long beach 60 and the drag is really tight. When star is in contact with the handle, drag it is tight. When you turn star a 1/2 turn it is 100% tight. Not sure what the problems is. Drag/Washer count is standard, the same as in your video, it just seems really tight. Any advice would be appreciated? I also have another question, my LB60 has a small hole on the non gear side plate. I have also seen this on some of the LB65's. It is about 3/16 in diameter. Do you know what this hole is for? Thanks Kevin
The tight drag is likely associated with worn or compressed drag washers. Both limit the effective range of adjustment. It would be best to replace them to restore the drag functions. Do these.reels have the bait alarm clicker? It may be that the hole is where that was located if it is missing - Dennis
@ Thanks for the advice! I will order new a new drag kit. Really appreciate the work you do on the channel. I’ve learned a lot watching your videos. Thanks!
Yes - the parts on the 66 are bigger, but the format and design are the same. You can follow this step by step process to service that reel. Thanks for asking Dennis
The 85 spool will fit the 285 and the Long Beach 60 reels. The difference is that the 85 spool is plastic and the 285 and 60 are metal - Thanks for asking
The 66, 67 and 68 are all the same reel and internal and side plates can be interchanged. They ae the same internal design as the 85,285,65 but the parts are bigger. can cannot be interchanged with the smaller 60,65 reels Thanks for asking - Dennis
These were one of the earliest designs and models that Penn made. There were first offered in the 1940s and were produced for over 60 years. The reels varied in side plate design and color, so it is hard to say when one was made without further research. They were most popular in the 1970s and 80s
The 23-60 and 40-60 are part numbers for the handle screw2. The Oil is letting you know there is a oil port in the center and you can use an oiler to add a drop of oil to the bridge post during cleaning - Thanks for asking - Dennis
Man, I have a 60 and an 85 I bought 20 yrs ago and love these reels. What a great video and your knowledge is priceless with the tips! Good job! Made me subscribe.
Thanks for watching! And thanks for the Sub. Those reels will last a lifetime if properly maintained and parts are still available so keep 'em fishing! Best wishes - Dennis
Dennis your videos are great! Helped me a lot with rebuilding and maintaining my grandfather’s reels to continue the fishing traditions!!
Glad to hear they are helping Ryan - Please stay tuned for more...and encourage your fishing buddies to subscribe to my channel - Dennis
Thanks for sharing another informative video. You never know when you'll chance upon one of these old LongBeach fishing reels, that's why I'm keeping your videos in a folder. You've already demonstrated the cleaning and rebuilding of several types of reels that I own.
Thanks again Dennis, from a grateful old student 🙂.
Stan
Stan - you are welcome. Stay tuned for more to come - Dennis
Outstanding video! I have an 85 Seaboy, now I look forward to taking it apart to check, clean, and maybe replace the drag washers. Thanks so much!
You are welcome. Thanks for watching and thanks for the kind words. Remember to use a parts tray and take pictures! Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis
I was given a 65 in a baggie, this was great getting it back together, thank you.
Glad it helped - Dennis
Thank you Dennis just rebuilt my first 65 Garage sale find it came out very good you are a great instructor
Nice to hear! Please let your fishing buddies know about my channel and ask them to subscribe. Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis
Thank you so much for a detailed easy to follow video. I honestly thought I was going to fast forward through most of it but I was glued to the tube like a bee to the honey!
Glad it was helpful. I appreciate the kind feedback and response. Please stay tuned for more - Dennis
My kind of reel, love penn reels, all your videos on reels are interesting.
Thanks for watching Martin. Please stay tuned for more - Dennis
It is a joy for me to watch you work on reels here in Nova Scotia there is very few people that can work on them I do my own work on my reels I have 26 reels some are old and some are new thank you for your beautiful videos
On these reels
That is awesome! Glad to have helped. Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
Thank you! Your video helped me repair my Penn 60 reel. Note it was very informative and detailed. Please keep up the great work.
Glad it helped! Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
Thank you for posting. I bought a Penn Long Beach 85 reel and it sounds a bit rough. I will attempt to service it now thanks to your video.
Glad to help. Best wishes in servicing the reel and enjoying it fishing - Dennis
Perfect thanks mate..just what I needed today, my 65 is now running really well.
Bob - glad to have helped. Thanks for viewing. Please stay tuned for more to come as I post frequently - Dennis
Fron Spain, thanks you very much for this video. I just finish repair my Penn long beach 68 with your instructions
Glad to have helped. Thanks for watching from Spain! Dennis
Thanks for showing me how to get that anti-reverse dog back in!!
You are welcome. Best wishes - Dennis
Thank you. I wish I could do this process with you here to stop me from breaking this classic reel.
Thank you. There is only so much of me to go around and around. Best wishes. Contact me if you get stuck and I will try to help - Dennis
Thanks Dennis I have a 65 never really used it, a bit of tarnish on the chrome but spins good and the ratchet works ok. Now have seen your video I may try and service it. Thanks again. John UK
YW John - You can do it. Best wishes - Dennis
Great video, thanks. Reel works nice
YW and thanks for watching - Dennis
Can you do some videos on upgrading the reel handles on the older Penns? The tiny handle knobs kill me.
Hello, very helpful video, I bought a 2nd hand 65 and the anti reverse was not working, lucily the spring was there and I could fix it and now it works properly. Greetings from Argentina.
Glad to hear it worked Pablo. Thanks for watching - Dennis
Hey Dennis, if I wanted to increase the drag max I read somewhere that you can add an additional carbon fiber washer between the main gear and the bridge plate, my question to you is : would the added drag washer be under the the stock washer touching the plate or on top touching the main gear ? Or is the added drag washer replacing the stock washer ? Thanks for your how to vids.
To increase max drag, you need to increase surface area, so replacing them does not get that done. You should put the extra on top of the last.flat washer and then put the cap washer on before reinstalling the bridge - Dennis
Thank you sir for the videos
You are welcome. Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis
Just found one of these in my basement. Do you spool the line underhand or overhand and do you run the line through those 2 horizontal posts in the front or over or under?
The reel faces up as a top mount on the pole. The line spools over the top forward bar. It does not got between the crossposts. You need to manually guide the line back and forth with your thumb as you reel in order to avoid bunching - Dennis
What an excellent job you've done!, Looks simple but I guess needs a lot of training to do this in a professional way! Thanks!
Thank you for the kind words and for watching. Best wishes - Dennis
Dennis been trying to email you about the Penn international issue I had finally came up with a solution I ended up using some heat to free up the adjusting screw it worked reassembled the reel a it works fine don't think the sheared part for the slot will be an issue managed to fashion it count access the part anyway in the UK thanks again for help and advice Derek
Glad to hear that the reel has a 2nd Chance! Best wishes - Dennis
Many thanks 👍Dennis keep them coming
This video is valid for the #68, also? Thks!
Yes - the 68 has bigger parts, but the same set up. You can follow the steps and be able to tune up your reel - Thanks for asking - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle thanks for your early reply. You are great!!! 👏👏👏👍
Hi dennis the anti reverse dog is the same that the penn squidder ?? I buy a 285 model but not have the anti reverse
No - the Penn Squidder uses a different a/r dog because it has the A/R over-ride.
@@2ndChanceTackle and the penn 209??
Aloha! How's it going Dennis, I recently bought a Penn long beach 67 and I was wondering if the spool is interchangeable with the older style Penn 113H Special Senator Reel? TIA and great informative videos!
I can't say for certain. You are correct to note that the older 67/68 Long Beach reels shared a lot of parts with the Senator 4/0 series. I am just not certain on the spool. if you have both reels, you can swap one out and give it a try. Unfortunately, the schematics list different part numbers for the spools, but that may be a matter of one being aluminum and another being the older chromed version. Dennis
Thanks for the videos. I've repaired several penn senators and a couple of long beaches. Videos were very helpful. Got a question though; have you ever repaired or done a video on a Long Beach 66 pre 1953? I believe I have one based on the fact that it has the copper strap in lieu of the dog spring. Additionally there are some differences between post 1953 Long Beach 66 and post. The side plates are slightly different and there are some additional parts. I put it back together the way it came apart but something doesn't feel right with it. Any suggestions?
The flat dog spring was used not he early Penn Reels and most were converted over to the coil spring by 1957. The set ups on the 66 are similar throughout the production. The drag stack used thicker washers then. If it is not working right, I would get the schematic from Mysticparts.com, available in the parts section, and check the assembly again. It should be just like an older Senator black sided reel - Thanks for asking
Thanks for the response. Mystic parts for the Long Beach I have are not helpful. The model I have has the drag washers accessible from outside the reel. I did find some info looking at the 113 4/0 diagram that mentions older reels had a felt washer and a collar with drag washers being accessed outside the reel. I did this by looking at miscellaneous side plates on eBay because my side plate does not match any of the other 66s I've seen. Happy new year!
Oh and I see you did mention it is like the old senators in your original response. You were exactly right. I just didn't comprehend what you were saying until just now.
Hello Dennis, since that reel looks clean without corrosion plus ht100 drags what would be the value of that piece? Thanks
Gary - A reel in this condition would typically sell for around $25-30. The new drags may bump it to $40 - Dennis
I would like to send my Penn 65 for reconditioning....thank you
Sure thing - Dennis
Hi Dennis, have been watching a few of your videos which have proved very informative. In the process of getting new worm and pawl for a Penn GT 320LD which should see that reel working again once installed. In regards to this video i also have my first ever reel a Peen Long Beach 66 which is overdue for a service. I notice you did not refer to the 66 in your video. Are there any notable differences i should be looking out for before i start pulling it to bits?
Robert - first, thank you for watching. The Penn 66,67 and 68 are the next size up from the others, that is why it was not mentioned in the same group as the 60 and 65. The 66 and above share the internals with the older black sided Senator 4/0. From a service perspective, the stars are the same and the location of the springs and internal parts do not differ significantly. Good luck on the tune ups. They are great reels - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle Thanks for that info Dennis. Will give it a tune up in the next few days and hopefully it all goes well. Was also wondering whether you have had a Penn GT 320LD across your bench?
I haven't done that one, but the GLS lever drag Senator is very similar. You can watch that video here ruclips.net/video/HrXV4gUzvxc/видео.html - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle Cheers will have a watch and learn session.
Hi, do you know what the retrieve is on the 65? I cant seem to find it online.
The gear ratio is 2.5:1 - It is low and slow, but can pull up Davey Jones locker! Dennis
Dennis what do i do if the knob is tight on the handle? or did i miss you talking about that? it turns, but it's not nice and loose...
David. Assuming that there is not a mechanical blockage, like the end of the handle being bent and interfering with the complete turn of the knob, then the first treatment is to spray a penetrating oil like WD40 or Liquid Wrench on the base, where the shaft connects to the handle arm. If you have the rubber handle with the hole up top, then give it a squirt there as well. Let it sit for 15 minutes or so and then turn to work it free. - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle I will give it a shot. I have the whiteish yellowish hard plastic handle with the oil hole on it so i can figure out how to get some in there too... thanks for the video, Im going to try to break it down tonight and clean it up, the reel is a little tight but should clean up nicely i think. My uncle gave it to me...
Thanks for the vid Dennis! I found a Penn 60 Longbeach while cleaning out my basement and planning to restore it to like new. Is the wrench you are using to remove the handle special or would a SAE 12 point closed end wrench do the job?
It may work. You can also use a channel lock pliers and gently turn the nut if you can't make the other work in a pinch. Just be careful and not aggressive - If you send me a note to 2ndchancetackle@gmail.com with your address, I can send you the standard Penn wrench - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle Thank you so much Dennis! I'll be reaching out to you shortly. I just tested out both12pt sockets in SAE and metric and neither had positive engagement on the teeth. It must be a proprietary pattern on the nut.
Dennis, great channel! I have a penn long beach 60 and the drag is really tight. When star is in contact with the handle, drag it is tight. When you turn star a 1/2 turn it is 100% tight. Not sure what the problems is. Drag/Washer count is standard, the same as in your video, it just seems really tight. Any advice would be appreciated?
I also have another question, my LB60 has a small hole on the non gear side plate. I have also seen this on some of the LB65's. It is about 3/16 in diameter. Do you know what this hole is for?
Thanks
Kevin
The tight drag is likely associated with worn or compressed drag washers. Both limit the effective range of adjustment. It would be best to replace them to restore the drag functions. Do these.reels have the bait alarm clicker? It may be that the hole is where that was located if it is missing - Dennis
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Thanks for the advice! I will order new a new drag kit. Really appreciate the work you do on the channel. I’ve learned a lot watching your videos. Thanks!
That may be what it is for, but it is missing. The hole has flats for accommodating a nut.
Will this video work for a penn Long Beach 66?
Yes - the parts on the 66 are bigger, but the format and design are the same. You can follow this step by step process to service that reel.
Thanks for asking
Dennis
Hi dennis the spool of th penn 85 is the same that the penn 285??
The 85 spool will fit the 285 and the Long Beach 60 reels. The difference is that the 85 spool is plastic and the 285 and 60 are metal - Thanks for asking
Dennis, would the Long Beach 68 be the same as these?
The 66, 67 and 68 are all the same reel and internal and side plates can be interchanged. They ae the same internal design as the 85,285,65 but the parts are bigger. can cannot be interchanged with the smaller 60,65 reels
Thanks for asking - Dennis
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what is the year of manufacture?
These were one of the earliest designs and models that Penn made. There were first offered in the 1940s and were produced for over 60 years. The reels varied in side plate design and color, so it is hard to say when one was made without further research. They were most popular in the 1970s and 80s
Can you cast with these reels?
Yes you can, but they do not cast as far as other round bait caster reels. They need a long pole and weight to maximize casting distance
What do the knobs on the sides mean when they say "OIL 23-60" or "OIL 40-60"?
The 23-60 and 40-60 are part numbers for the handle screw2. The Oil is letting you know there is a oil port in the center and you can use an oiler to add a drop of oil to the bridge post during cleaning - Thanks for asking - Dennis
Thank you! I was thinking it meant 23-60 drops of oil! LOL That seemed a little odd to me. @@2ndChanceTackle
Parts source would be helpful. Maybe even an additional source of revenue for you by providing affiliate links.
I will need to check them out - Do you have a link?