Secret Wars, Part 1 - Atop the Fourth Wall

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. Event Comics Month continues with Secret Wars!
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    Originally released May 15th, 2017.
    ORIGINAL INFO: Considering how many times it's referenced and remade, it's not a very well-kept secret.
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  • @TheHeroOfTomorrow
    @TheHeroOfTomorrow 7 лет назад +269

    "Except Wolverine, cause he feels like being a prick." Ah, so it's a day that ends in Y, then.

    • @deadcool3227
      @deadcool3227 3 года назад +7

      The fact that May 15 2017 was a monday makes this comment so much better.

    • @nejiiuyn
      @nejiiuyn 3 года назад +10

      @@deadcool3227 The joke is that every day ends in a Y.

  • @ironlion9172
    @ironlion9172 7 лет назад +305

    Age of Ultron would have been a totally different story if Ultron sounded like Starscream the entire time.

    • @godzillavkk
      @godzillavkk 5 лет назад +8

      And he would have been annoying.

    • @keelanbarron928
      @keelanbarron928 5 лет назад +13

      Specking of that: WHY did he use that voice?

    • @godzillavkk
      @godzillavkk 5 лет назад +13

      @@keelanbarron928 Good question. One of the reasons G1 Starscream is so annoying is because of that voice. I'm happy that newer versions have given him less annoying voices, and made him more cunning and crafty.

    • @keelanbarron928
      @keelanbarron928 5 лет назад +3

      @@godzillavkk true...... though i was talking about linkara using that voice for ultron.

    • @godzillavkk
      @godzillavkk 5 лет назад +1

      @@keelanbarron928 I dunno.

  • @Ethereal-23
    @Ethereal-23 7 лет назад +294

    "Galactus shall learn this... macarena"
    I lost it

    • @sammieleighstyer1447
      @sammieleighstyer1447 4 года назад +4

      I read this comment before it was said by Linkera and I STILL cracked up once I heard it! Lol

    • @MasterCode86
      @MasterCode86 2 года назад +3

      galactus kind of hilarious, yeah he is an universal concept and a word eater, but he then does shit like learning the macarena and freaky friday himself into elvis and then choose to say fuck it and not go back.

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 8 месяцев назад

      I like to imagine he was going to T-Pose. Asserting dominance at the highest point on battleworld before consuming it.

  • @atamisirli3620
    @atamisirli3620 7 лет назад +645

    Linkara's version of Doom still looks better than Fox's latest version

    • @HBarnill
      @HBarnill 7 лет назад +31

      Fox's Deadpool 1.0 looks better than that version.

    • @Shiirow
      @Shiirow 7 лет назад +16

      the first doom was better than the later incarnation.

    • @LaNoLaCola
      @LaNoLaCola 7 лет назад +12

      I personally enjoyed the corman version

    • @joe95883
      @joe95883 7 лет назад +6

      Indeed

    • @TheSkully343
      @TheSkully343 7 лет назад +9

      Well at least in Linkara's version of DOOM it actually has Hell in it and it's actually based on the 1993 Video Game.

  • @tejapayne
    @tejapayne 7 лет назад +103

    Seriously, somebody needs to make "I can drive stick. I am Doom!" a bumper sticker.

    • @doctor_burnsides915
      @doctor_burnsides915 Год назад

      TejaPayne I’d even settle for it being written on a t shirt 😂

  • @Fuzzy_Barbarian
    @Fuzzy_Barbarian 7 лет назад +235

    "This is God! I decided to call a do-over on the universe, I apologise for the inconvenience!"
    So... Doctor Manhattan wants to reboot the Marvel Universe too?

    • @Nortarachanges
      @Nortarachanges 7 лет назад +19

      Fuzzy Barbarian My thought was the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. One of my favorite moments from that series ^_^

    • @johnnygyro2295
      @johnnygyro2295 5 лет назад +8

      That madman! How many reboots must he cause until he's satisfied?!

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 5 месяцев назад +2

      But there Peter Parker perished and Ben Riley became the one true Spider-Man. Also Judas Traveler is Mephisto's right hand man.

  • @otakon17
    @otakon17 7 лет назад +84

    I just realized, where the hell is the comic of Magneto laying a one man war against HYDRA and the likes of Baron Zemo or The Red Skull out for vengeance?

    • @SnowyWolborg
      @SnowyWolborg 7 лет назад +4

      I think Magneto has met the Red Skull before.

    • @adambesley4455
      @adambesley4455 7 лет назад +15

      He has tried to kill The Red Skull at least once.

    • @L1701
      @L1701 5 лет назад +4

      He did try to kill Red Skull during Mark Gruenwald’s run in Cap’s book.

    • @godzillavkk
      @godzillavkk 4 года назад +3

      Because he's too blinded by hatred of Profesor X and the X-Men that he spend more time fighting them than fighting evil humans.

    • @Igarappappa
      @Igarappappa 4 года назад +6

      @@godzillavkk Thing is he doesn't hate Xavier. He just feels he needs to shepard mutant kind. That being said if he ever comes across a Nazi he'll kill them easily.

  • @Dlihclive
    @Dlihclive 7 лет назад +197

    I love the Doom costume. Doomkara should be a recurring character.

    • @elwafflejr3856
      @elwafflejr3856 3 года назад +4

      This comic book show is beneath him for He is Doom it would interfere with his next flawless plan

    • @MrSkerpentine
      @MrSkerpentine 2 года назад

      Only if we get a crossover with ASSIST ME so we can have Doomkara meet Matt as Dr. Doom. FINGER LASERS!!

    • @flashystarwinger
      @flashystarwinger 2 года назад

      Assist Me... 2!

  • @Ksawarrior
    @Ksawarrior 7 лет назад +157

    The X-Men stuff in this illustrates my biggest gripe with the X-Men in a larger universe: they're often really big assholes in dealing with non-mutant heroes. In the movies and the various cartoons where the majority of the plot revolves around mutants and whatnot, they're awesome. But when they often put along with other heroes, they tend to be self-righteous and elitist (probably not helped by the constant pushing of themselves as the next step in evolution). Honestly, that's why Avengers vs. X-Men didn't shock me. It's also why I loved Uncanny Avengers so much, just for actually helping make the X-Men characters get along with their non-mutant comrades.

    • @MrSafior
      @MrSafior 7 лет назад +13

      To bad marvel tend to screw up because they are piss to not have the movie license.
      The fact they recton Magneto father of the Maximoff make me boycott all marvel product and I will continue until this particular recton it undo.
      And since lattlely Fox and Marvel get along ,there is a spark of hope.

    • @StarWarsAddict527
      @StarWarsAddict527 7 лет назад +1

      The way Ksawarrior writes it sounds like he thinks they've acted like that before Fox and Marvel started to feud. To a non comic book reader like me from what I've heard they come off sometimes like self righteous jackasses who have appointed themselves the de-facto leaders and protecters of the mutant race when no one asked them.
      Of course what I'm saying might be hyperbole so I encourage anyone with more comic knowledge who reads this to challenge what I said or to discuss it further if you agree.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 7 лет назад +7

      So they sometimes have the same superiority complex as the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants?

    • @BesterP12
      @BesterP12 7 лет назад +22

      Another thing referenced in 90s spidey. Peter comes looking for help with the man-spider thing(growing arms and attacking people) The X-men attack him, tell him stopping mutations is wrong, Beast goes around the others to help, but gets captured. And of course Logan blames Peter.

    • @dmore454
      @dmore454 7 лет назад +14

      Autobot Starscream when they're being written by hack writers who don't get the characters or premise of the series, yes.

  • @MLP-Trinary
    @MLP-Trinary 7 лет назад +350

    I loved your reaction to the Wasp's little Godwin moment with Magneto, because Marvel keeps on DOING this. During the events of (I think) AXIS, Magneto, the Scarlet Witch and Rogue are kidnapped by the Red Skull, stuck in a concentration camp and brutally tortured. Upon breaking free, Magneto beats the Red Skull to a pulp and kills him. The Scarlet Witch's response? "You're no different than he is."... Seriously? I get that Magneto is not a good guy and was a sucky (not) father, but come off your damn high horse Wanda. That was just ... really uncomfortable of Marvel.

    • @Studmanafier
      @Studmanafier 7 лет назад +55

      And let's not forget the recent image of Hydra aligned Magneto. I just... Why are you doing this Marvel?

    • @L1701
      @L1701 7 лет назад +11

      Studmanafier Magneto isn't in Hydra. Never was. It was a variant cover.

    • @FNGLHR
      @FNGLHR 7 лет назад +12

      Well, in context, Skull had Xavier's brain in him and the X-Men wanted to save their friend and mentor's brain rather than destroy it. I don't think that got across at all honestly.

    • @Studmanafier
      @Studmanafier 7 лет назад +31

      Fair enough, but that just raises the question of why. Was it to piss people off? Was it intended to happen but people got so pissed off they decided to change it? Or did they just think it would be cool even though it is not what's happening and just pissed people off?

    • @MLP-Trinary
      @MLP-Trinary 7 лет назад +31

      Considering there's a movie called 'They Saved Hitler's Brain' that'd make the Nazi comparison work more on the X-Men's side. But really, the scene made it look like they were objecting more to Magneto killing the Red Skull than due to being concerned over Xavier's brain. And the Red Skull is, ya know, a Nazi and Magneto a Jewish or Romany Holocaust survivor. Even if you left that out of the equation, the Red Skull had been torturing Magneto not five minutes before. Killing the Red Skull upon breaking free might not be the most moral thing ever, but in no way, shape or form does that make the two equal. Not even close. That scene really annoyed the crud outta me.

  • @SMAXZO
    @SMAXZO 7 лет назад +114

    Oh yeah, Chuck..you're such a nice guy. Hey, what happened to the team you sent to rescue the original X-Men team on Krakoa? No, not the one from Giant-Sized X-Men..that's the second team. The first team? Some of the members KIA and one MIA...oh and you mindwiped Cyclops and altered his memory. Yeah, Chuck...such a nice guy. No wonder Scott snapped your neck. God knows how many times you had fucked with the X-Men's memories.

    • @tylerromo854
      @tylerromo854 7 лет назад +12

      i agree man. charles xaviar is kinda fucked up

    • @PunkPimster
      @PunkPimster 7 лет назад +2

      The one MIA was Darwin or Scott's brother?

    • @StarWarsAddict527
      @StarWarsAddict527 7 лет назад +1

      Why did anyone stand by this guy for so long?

    • @SMAXZO
      @SMAXZO 7 лет назад +1

      I'm thinking Scott's brother.

    • @beta269
      @beta269 7 лет назад +20

      Well in Chucks defence, this was written back in the 80's when Charles really was, more or less, a good, stand up guy. Before they retconned him to make him darker and edgier and jerkisher and perving on Jean and... *Fuck you, Joe Quesada! You go to hell! You go to hell, and you die!*
      Um... ahem... sorry about that, got a little carried away there.

  • @gigangreg7837
    @gigangreg7837 7 лет назад +84

    "Janet, he's a Holocaust survivor, go to Hell."
    Well, for what it's worth, all anyone knows about Magneto at that point is that he's an ultra-powerful magnetism-manipulator with a grudge, who wants his superpowered ilk to lord over much weaker normal humans who need geniuses and high-technology just to stand any chance of survival.

    • @Igarappappa
      @Igarappappa 4 года назад +7

      I'd honestly say the Inhumans probably fit that mold more since they actively practice eugenics and have a race of beings who do all the heavy lifting and are, more or less, a race of beings created to be slaves.

    • @L1701
      @L1701 3 года назад +3

      Pretty much, yeah. It wasn’t like Magneto broadcasted his past to anyone at the time.

    • @garganrose
      @garganrose 2 года назад +3

      No people knew who magneto was back then a holocaust survivor that's a huge part of his character. But still being a holocaust survivor does not make him immune from that kind of criticism if anything it would make him more vulnerable to it because he should know better then to become the very thing that took his family from him.

  • @TomboTime
    @TomboTime 7 лет назад +151

    Marvel really has a tendency for comparing Magneto to Hitler, probably because he IS a holocaust survivor, ergo that would really hit home for him. It makes sense, because how can Magneto justify his own terrorist attacks and prejudice towards homo sapiens when HE HIMSELF is a victim of prejudice and oppression of the highest caliber. Does he not see even the slightest hint of hypocrisy in his actions?

    • @L1701
      @L1701 3 года назад +53

      I think that’s supposed to be the tragedy of Magneto. He survived one of the most horrific events in human history, and it scarred him. He’s so afraid of a mutant Holocaust that he’s unknowingly willing to become a monster to stop it.

    • @armandotorres8962
      @armandotorres8962 3 года назад +26

      I get where they’re going, but the problem with that is that Hitler only cared about himself and the mission. Magneto at least cares about mutants. It’s why he kept offering Charles the chance to join him. So the comparison is tends to be iffy.

    • @DocDevious23
      @DocDevious23 3 года назад +9

      @@armandotorres8962 Well said. I think it depends on the storyline and writer, and how sympathetic they make Magneto out to be

    • @godzillavkk
      @godzillavkk 2 года назад +6

      @@armandotorres8962 Still, Magneto has killed innocent people with no regret or remorse, human and mutant alike.

    • @fenixman2
      @fenixman2 2 года назад +3

      @@armandotorres8962 Hitler cared about the Aryan race same way Magneto cares about mutants

  • @DrBachur
    @DrBachur 7 лет назад +59

    "I can drive stick!
    I AM DOOM"

  • @FanStoryVideoStudios
    @FanStoryVideoStudios 7 лет назад +185

    "Janet, he's a holocaust survivor. Go to hell." And cue Linkara earning an additional +100 respect points from me!

    • @frankspick7544
      @frankspick7544 7 лет назад +5

      +infinite points from me and can't be take back unless i say so

    • @gregorymelissinos337
      @gregorymelissinos337 4 года назад +7

      True but he is also a case of he who fights monsters.

    • @guilhermehank4938
      @guilhermehank4938 3 года назад +1

      Magneto is a murderous prick no better than hitler, screw him

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 2 года назад +4

      If you are a villain (who just forced himself on her) yourself you don’t get privilege of not being compared to Hitler just because he is a Holocaust survivor. More like it makes it a better insult.

    • @TheSpiderByte
      @TheSpiderByte 2 года назад

      They've tried the "Magneto is like Hitler" stuff a few times and its led to some...weird stuff

  • @taekinuru2
    @taekinuru2 7 лет назад +57

    Doomkara was a surprise, but a welcome one.

  • @adrianrocha6844
    @adrianrocha6844 4 года назад +14

    “Now behold my persons crouch”
    Gets me every time 😂

  • @TalkingDevoB52
    @TalkingDevoB52 7 лет назад +32

    Well, actually Rogue beat the living tar out of the Avengers when she first showed up, so I'm sure that had something to do with them not trusting her.

  • @tyrongkojy
    @tyrongkojy 7 лет назад +72

    About Galactus, plus it's not like he stops you from evacuating. Hell, he first sends his herald to WARN you.

    • @erttheking
      @erttheking 7 лет назад +10

      tyrongkojy He needs both thermal and organic energy. He tried eating planets that had life, just not intelligent, but eventually lost his patience and he argues that he'll give back to the galaxy, more than he ever took from it.

    • @DuelaDent52
      @DuelaDent52 7 лет назад +21

      Kevin Corey Unbeatable Squirrel Girl posits that Galactus attacking Earth is his equivalent of ordering takeout, since the heroes will try to find another planet for him to find that he can eat.

    • @2wingo
      @2wingo 7 лет назад +17

      There's also the fact that, if he DOESN'T feed and starves to death, a much much MUCH worse being called Abraxas will be unleashed and nullify the entire universe.

    • @bloodstoneore4630
      @bloodstoneore4630 7 лет назад +1

      tyrongkojy why does he eat planets that will fight back, like earth? Why not an uninhabited planet?

    • @2wingo
      @2wingo 7 лет назад +10

      He can only eat certain kinds of planets, ones that have the potential for life. While he feeds on uninhabited planets whenever he can, he doesn't always have a choice. He absolutely has to eat about once per month or he'll die.

  • @Fuzzy_Barbarian
    @Fuzzy_Barbarian 7 лет назад +43

    Galactus being on the villain team bugs me. The dude *isn't* a villain to me and a lot of other people; he's a natural force. I mean, sure, he ignores the suffering of those whose planets he destroys, but it's something he *has* to do. The Silver Surfer was concerned for the well-being of people, but that led to him making Galactus wait too long between planets. To me, evil requires malevolent intent. Galactus being there is just... off to me.

    • @jaredsamples6969
      @jaredsamples6969 7 лет назад

      Perhaps the team he was on was just a means to an end.

    • @Nortarachanges
      @Nortarachanges 7 лет назад +6

      Fuzzy Barbarian the Beyonder doesn't know much about good, evil, and motivations yet, does he? It could just be a mistake

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 7 лет назад +3

      Fuzzy Barbarian If I understand correctly, Galactus literally signed up for the food, and the Beyonder assigned him to Team Villains.

    • @SnowyWolborg
      @SnowyWolborg 7 лет назад +7

      You're correct. But for mortal beings, it's difficult to comprehend the "bigger picture." Galactus is a necessity to the universe, and is fated to give back all that he's taken. But for normal people, only the here and now matters. It's a difference in scale.

    • @Fuzzy_Barbarian
      @Fuzzy_Barbarian 7 лет назад +3

      True, but I see it in the grander scope of things. These people *will* die and he *will* have to eat their planets eventually, and finding uninhabited planets all the time means there's too long a time between meals. When it comes to Galactus, I see him as operating on a moral level beyond everybody else. He sees us like how we see ants, and he's part of the bigger workings of the universe. But hey, different views of morality and whatnot.

  • @CasaiAgicap
    @CasaiAgicap 5 лет назад +13

    Two years later and Doomkara still brings me unending joy

  • @JaelinBezel
    @JaelinBezel 5 лет назад +23

    Linkara: The noblest of all purposes
    Me: Revenge?
    Linkara: Money!
    Me: That works too.

  • @thatguywiththetripod8577
    @thatguywiththetripod8577 7 лет назад +63

    You've waited for months to put on that Dr. Doom costume have you?

  • @tuvyamaeir4684
    @tuvyamaeir4684 7 лет назад +39

    DOOMKARA IS AMAZING. WE NEED MORE OF THAT IN THE SHOW.

  • @LupineShadowOmega
    @LupineShadowOmega 7 лет назад +14

    As an X-Men fan, I feel confident in saying...never mentioned again. That's not to say that Xavier and using his powers irresponsibly aren't the opus of tons of stories, but rather to say that he never again mentions that time he wronged Spider-Man.

    • @JaelinBezel
      @JaelinBezel 5 лет назад

      Will you please tell me where the Mansion is located?

  • @guyr3618
    @guyr3618 7 лет назад +40

    "Now behold my person's crotch" LOL

  • @elegantcat1496
    @elegantcat1496 7 лет назад +62

    "This is the second Captain Marvel! After the first one died of cancer!" Jeesus...I come to comics to get away from this kind of horrible stuff...

    • @johnnygyro2295
      @johnnygyro2295 5 лет назад +27

      True, but "The Death of Captain Marvel" is apparently one of the better times death has been handled in comics. The captain died surrounded by his friends and after fighting (and winning) a final duel against *Thanos* on the border between life and death!
      Also, besides a couple brief ressurections, the dude has *stayed dead.* Thus allowing other characters, like Monica Rambeau and Carol Danvers, to take on the mantle.

  • @spiderwithay6679
    @spiderwithay6679 7 лет назад +5

    It's interesting seeing the color dichotomy between hero and villains. Heros seem to be some combination of red, blue and yellow usually while villains seem to mostly be green and purple. Just having them all grouped together like that really made me realize

  • @jibachu7
    @jibachu7 5 лет назад +7

    "Except Wolverine cause he feels like being a prick". So it's a year with a number in it.

  • @jackstraw522
    @jackstraw522 7 лет назад +3

    The hulk holding up a mountain cover is one of my all time favorite covers

  • @paulettecarter3048
    @paulettecarter3048 7 лет назад +18

    Ultron is Starscream?!
    Yeah, I can get behind that.

    • @thetruewisegamer
      @thetruewisegamer 3 года назад

      My god.......why hasnt their been a cross over with marvel and transformer that feature the major villain of ultron and starscream......

  • @Gaia_BentosZX5
    @Gaia_BentosZX5 7 лет назад +14

    There's no contest in recent years: the Dark Cybertron event was one of the best tie-in comics to the toyline we've seen in awhile. As it turned out Shockwave had his own plans, to cover Cybertron in darkness and enlists the aid of the Ammonites to carry out this task. At the end of the storyline, something happened: Megatron has been redeemed, a rare feat in the mythos.

    • @Cy-Kill_01
      @Cy-Kill_01 6 лет назад +2

      GaiaX5 and amazingly idw has kept megatron being redeemed til even today. And as someone who loved the More than meets the eye comic series I’m happy for it. He was one the best characters in that series because he was trying to genuinely become a better person (robot? Cybertronian?) while still not being afraid to be an asshole who commanded respect.

  • @Fuzzy_Barbarian
    @Fuzzy_Barbarian 7 лет назад +4

    I'm glad you noted the Wasp's really, really, really bad choice of insults, Linkara. I mean... seriously.

    • @anthonyrodriguez1119
      @anthonyrodriguez1119 7 лет назад +1

      Fuzzy Barbarian
      Not really a bad choice Magneto has always had a similar way of thinking as Hitler.
      In fact it is actually one of the most interesting parts of his character.

  • @thesleepingnightengale
    @thesleepingnightengale 6 лет назад +5

    Ah! I see Magneto went to Darkside’s school of sitting on comfy couches.

  • @CoolinDude
    @CoolinDude 7 лет назад +13

    Best Doom cosplay I've seen in years

  • @UnknownJ25
    @UnknownJ25 7 лет назад +8

    So from the novelization of Secret Wars that I read I remember the Beyonder was basically granting their greatest wishes during the fight for a limited time. Like Xavier can walk and eventually Thing became unrocky

  • @darkside9020
    @darkside9020 7 лет назад +19

    "Apologize for the inconvenience." A Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy reference?

  • @Martynde
    @Martynde 7 лет назад +9

    When Spiderman throws his secret shield, all those who chose to oppose his shield must wonder why Spiderman has a shield.

  • @wdcain1
    @wdcain1 7 лет назад +5

    Wasp: "You're the greatest evil since Hitler!"
    Fitting a selfish brat like Janet would say that because according to the awesome _Deadpool's Secret War_, she also started a relationship with a healed Wade Wilson during this time but not only broke up with him once his scarring came back but wiped away everyone's memories so no one would know she was intimate with such an ugly man. Poor Wade, he's a real hero.

    • @L1701
      @L1701 2 года назад

      That was a retcon put in years later.

  • @DarkwyndPT
    @DarkwyndPT 7 лет назад +2

    The Secret Wars action figures were the 1st Marvel action figures ever being sold in Portugal (thanks Mattel) and even introduced some characters and concepts before the comics here, like Hobgoblin and black uniform Spidey (the toys were being sold several years before the tie-in comic) It was weird to have a capeless Dr. Doom figure, though.
    Classic Magneto was always more of an anti-villain than traditional villain.
    At the end of the 1st time the X-men faced the Brood, Prof. X is infected by their queen and returns to Earth, where thinking that the X-men were dead, recruit a new class of mutants, The New Mutants. The X-men having survived the Brood return to earth in time to save the New Mutants from being killed by a Brood creature that used to be Prof. X armed with his telepathy. But a residue of Prof X's mind survived and was transplanted to a clone body created by the Shi'ar. A new body cured of his paralysis.
    Not elastic, Linkara. Made from unstable molecules. You should know this by now, mate.
    X-men fan here and Kitty Pryde was right: Prof. X is a jerk!
    But the Dr. Doom vs Beyonder fight is still great nowadays!

  • @Martialartfruituser
    @Martialartfruituser 7 лет назад +15

    19:34 my favorite part of this story, Spider-man taking out the entire X-men without breaking a sweat. Like a boss. It shows how smart he is too, taking out the psyhic first and then using his tricks and skills to beat everyone else.
    This is why Spider-man is awesome.

    • @juhaniaho6698
      @juhaniaho6698 6 лет назад +2

      Martialartfruituser Awesome as a fighter, yes. Awesome as a friend, nephew or husband? It depends.

    • @johnnygyro2295
      @johnnygyro2295 5 лет назад +2

      @@juhaniaho6698
      Yeah, it depends on the universe. That being said, Insomniac's Spider-Man seems good at balancing it all.

    • @DarsiPadilla
      @DarsiPadilla 5 лет назад +1

      @@juhaniaho6698 True. Marvel is incapable of having Peter Parker be a responsible human being.

  • @pizza4589
    @pizza4589 7 лет назад +40

    just because he's a holocaust survivor doesn't mean he's not a genocidal maniac. if anything that just makes him worse

    • @ultimatedarkrai255
      @ultimatedarkrai255 6 лет назад

      Luke Groundflyer it does however make it so that comparing him to hitler specifically wrong pick any other genocidal maniac and you would have no problem it’s that the chose butler specifiacally

    • @gregorymelissinos337
      @gregorymelissinos337 4 года назад

      @@ultimatedarkrai255 why?

    • @L1701
      @L1701 4 года назад +5

      It’s kind of the tragedy of Magneto. He’s so terrified of a mutant Holocaust that he ended up no different from the monsters that locked him in the concentration camps in the first place.

  • @Nymphonomicon
    @Nymphonomicon 7 лет назад +23

    For some reason, I keep reading Wolverine's lines as the Australian "Pryde of the X-men" version...

  • @jeremytung1632
    @jeremytung1632 4 года назад +2

    Part of me loves the idea of a villain getting therapy.

  • @FatalLordAce
    @FatalLordAce 7 лет назад +57

    But isn't that the tragedy of Magneto that he is every bit the monster that the Nazis where but he's just deluding himself into thinking he's better and different

    • @SnowyWolborg
      @SnowyWolborg 7 лет назад +42

      Partly. It depends on who's writing. Sometimes he wants to enact revenge on humanity, other times he just very aggressively wants to protect mutants. Other superhumans are rarely discriminated upon the way mutants are, and Magneto doesn't ever want to be victimized that way again. It's rarely a black and white situation with him, which is part of what makes him interesting.

    • @kimkatsu1453
      @kimkatsu1453 7 лет назад +9

      At this point in time he actually wasn't. He was mostly antagonist than a villain.

    • @donatelloi6710
      @donatelloi6710 6 лет назад +3

      Yes but he is more a victim of circumstances

  • @orezblades
    @orezblades 7 лет назад +44

    Been a fan for years, but fell off the wagon after Missing Number. Don't know why, just ended up on other parts of the web. Then RUclips went and reminded me of AT4W with a 'suggested for you'. And now I begin the long treck of getting caught up. Missed ya Lewis, glad to see you're still going strong!

    • @AT4W
      @AT4W  7 лет назад +18

      Thanks! Hope you enjoy the journey catching up! ^_^

    • @calebmayfield3878
      @calebmayfield3878 7 лет назад +2

      Linkara-AtopTheFourthWall Please review the Colonel Sanders dc comics book

  • @andriygriffin4782
    @andriygriffin4782 7 лет назад +7

    I'm mostly a fan of early 1960s Marvel, but Secret Wars was my favourite comic book growing up. Not just because it's a story with the heroes fighting villains (and not themselves!) but like all great Marvel, it's a story about the characters before the costumes, and it has probably the greatest portrayal of Doctor Doom ever!! You feel for all the characters, the action never overstays it's welcome, and even though it was supposed to just be a commercial for toys, the writer Jim Shooter did his dam best on this! If the fourth Avengers movie is revealed to be "Avengers: Secret Wars" I will be so thrilled!

    • @lukelandis3090
      @lukelandis3090 5 лет назад

      AG Films that would be cool but probably it would be Avengers 5, though. MCU fans knew the fourth Avengers movie was going to be a direct sequel to Infinity War months before we knew it’s going to be called Avengers Endgame

    • @michaelwinchester5003
      @michaelwinchester5003 10 месяцев назад

      Heh. Good to see this comment has aged well

  • @LordVanOskuro
    @LordVanOskuro 7 лет назад +8

    Noble, Magneto? Ha! Magneto is as noble as Hitler. He constantly causes mass murder and promotes a "master race" many of whom he also kills when they don't do what he wants. The only reason he says he wants to act like his actions are that of "defender of mutants" is just so he can justify his actions while getting others to do his bidding. "Racism" is just his weapon of choice in conquering the world. And you have said that Magneto and Ransik from Time Force aren't the same character, but I personally see them as virtually the same character.

  • @jojoreztorc0396
    @jojoreztorc0396 4 года назад +6

    I love how you gave Ultron a voice like Starscream’s, it’s hilarious!

    • @AT4W
      @AT4W  4 года назад +6

      It's just how I always thought of his voice ever since I first read Secret Wars. XD

    • @Gojiragon
      @Gojiragon 2 года назад

      @@AT4W It’s weird, since every other media that has depicted Ultron has given him a far deeper voice, not just the movie. It varies, but it’s always deeper than the Starscream idea.

  • @joeyellison4211
    @joeyellison4211 7 лет назад +4

    a few weeks ago while I was at my dads and learned that he used to collect comics. I asked him if he had any kind of comics at the house. he did but it was only half of his collection. he put his comics in a green tub and it was a pain to get it up the stairs and into my room. after taking a small break I finally got to see what was in it. in it was some of his army stuff (just some papers) a bible, an art folder, and the comics. the comics that he had was all of the death to reborn to revenge of superman, Frank Miller's The dark knight strikes back, Doom 2099 #5, and a whole lot more. when I looked at his art folder I saw a few interesting art. what caught my eye in it was a man holding the superman symbol as a shield. he explained that it was a big crossover event of both Marvel and DC to the point of having characters fuse. It would be interesting if you reviewed that comic crossover series

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 7 лет назад +21

    this is just what i needed today because do to personal reasons i needed something to cheer me up so thank you linkara :)

  • @TheLyokoWarriors
    @TheLyokoWarriors 2 месяца назад +1

    Coming back here to watch your Secret Wars videos after watching the Secret Wars II video.

    • @romdan7136
      @romdan7136 2 месяца назад

      Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah, and then the clusterfook that was the Beyonder in said video

  • @dukespubber741
    @dukespubber741 7 лет назад +4

    Hulk's car insurance likely wouldn't have been cancelled if he had just saved 15% by calling Geico.

  • @autobotproductions1244
    @autobotproductions1244 7 лет назад +3

    That Doom costume is awesome

  • @Scorpio2074
    @Scorpio2074 7 лет назад +11

    Those were the days, when Marvel's "Event Comics" actually meant something. Now we have one every year and to be honest - it's really tiring. Nothing feels special anymore. And the newer events (2000s onward) don't really tie in very good with the "non-event" issues.

    • @slifer875
      @slifer875 7 лет назад

      "every year"? its every three months!

    • @L1701
      @L1701 3 года назад

      If they keep making money, they keep making them.

  • @theruoc147
    @theruoc147 7 лет назад +2

    this was always my favorite episode of the spiderman show

  • @MrDruism
    @MrDruism 6 лет назад +4

    This reminds me of an old Star Trek episode where Kirk, Spock, Abraham Lincoln, and a Vulcan ghandi are transported to a planet to fight history’s biggest villains.

  • @Morbos1000
    @Morbos1000 2 года назад +1

    Watching this in 2022 I had a brain fart for a moment. I couldn't figure out why you had to explain who Monica Rambeau is and only use comics examples when she was a major character in WandaVision. Then I remembered I am watching this video 5 years after you made it!

  • @jbleichman
    @jbleichman 7 лет назад +11

    To be fair, Quark really needed Rom at the bar back in '85.

  • @arm514ve5
    @arm514ve5 7 лет назад +93

    sad thing is Linkaras doom mask is still better then all three of the fantastic 4 films.

    • @MykiiMescal
      @MykiiMescal 7 лет назад +6

      Arm514ve I can't tell if you mean it's a better mask than they used or if it's better than the movies itself... either way yeah

    • @Artista_Frustrado
      @Artista_Frustrado 7 лет назад +5

      but not as good as Assist Me's Doom

    • @pious83
      @pious83 7 лет назад

      The first Fantastic Four film (1990) had quite a decent Doom costume in hindsight.

  • @ferhog7705
    @ferhog7705 7 лет назад +31

    6:38 By Fafnir's teeth? (Insert Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid reference)

    • @Shiirow
      @Shiirow 7 лет назад +8

      Fafnir cares not for your silly human references. he is too busy grinding the latest MMO event and writing bad doujin comics that dont sell, about how he cares not for silly humans.

    • @MoojinBoi
      @MoojinBoi 7 лет назад +11

      Ferhog don't lewd the dragon loli

    • @ferhog7705
      @ferhog7705 7 лет назад +5

      I wouldn't dare.

  • @daelen.cclark
    @daelen.cclark 4 года назад +4

    With that “universe ballet practice” joke, I wonder why no comic universes have made their universe embodiments a ballerina, given how companies always describe it as graceful.
    That would be kinda cute actually...

  • @GalenNight
    @GalenNight 5 лет назад +2

    Doom does not need friends! Doom needs none but his pet cat!

  • @YonadavTzveker
    @YonadavTzveker 7 лет назад +2

    Somehow this is the first time I have the exact book you're holding for the review. It feels cool

  • @noirtreize2713
    @noirtreize2713 7 лет назад +3

    Okay.. so I have 3 questions about this comic's weirdness
    1. Does Magneto refer to himself in third person only in this event? Or is he this weird all through out that era?
    2. Is Wasp marry to Antman during this event? Because if so, those scene with Magneto is creepy in whole new level
    3. Does Molecule man appear/reboot in later Marvel comic? Dude is so fricking awesome!!!

  • @Mokey_MokeyLordofPuns
    @Mokey_MokeyLordofPuns 7 месяцев назад +1

    That open legit gave me chills

  • @thatdapperfellow
    @thatdapperfellow 7 лет назад

    I like how the only person who's not posing bravely into battle in those covers is Spidey getting his ass choked.

  • @Djinsin
    @Djinsin 7 лет назад +4

    My introduction into the bigger Marvel Universe was through a video game.

  • @tuvyamaeir4684
    @tuvyamaeir4684 7 лет назад +22

    ...What...WAS that Ultron voice supposed to be?

    • @hubakon1368
      @hubakon1368 7 лет назад +16

      Tuvya Maeir Starscream from the original Transformers cartoon on helium.

    • @guyr3618
      @guyr3618 7 лет назад +6

      It's so weird when Ultron doesn't sound like James Spader...

    • @tuvyamaeir4684
      @tuvyamaeir4684 7 лет назад +9

      Gotta personally disagree with you there, Guy R. Not to say that I don't love James Spader, but my iconic idea of an Ultron voice is Tom Kane for its sheer cold logic. And not sounding like a freakin' crybaby like Jim Meskimen.

    • @DuelaDent52
      @DuelaDent52 7 лет назад +2

      Tuvya Maeir I always imagined Ultron as sounding like a mix between Tom Kenny and Crispin Freeman.

    • @donatelloi6710
      @donatelloi6710 6 лет назад

      80’s starscream

  • @sineado.mcdevitt4353
    @sineado.mcdevitt4353 7 лет назад +1

    I swear to god the high pitched voice you gave Ultron made me pause the video and laugh for 5 minutes

  • @Numbskill
    @Numbskill 7 лет назад +1

    I like the original comic version of Ultron more than the movie version. When a robot villain uses logic to justify his villainous motives and shows pretty much no emotion, you have yourself a deadly villain.
    Either that or I'm actually talking about the Earth's Mightiest Heroes. I miss that show.

  • @DayvMagnimagic
    @DayvMagnimagic 7 лет назад +2

    I want all of the Doom jokes in one video so that I can put it on loop and laugh hysterically

  • @mutalord
    @mutalord 7 лет назад +3

    I love your Doom, bring him more often plz

  • @caiuswickersham
    @caiuswickersham 6 лет назад +2

    1:07: I had that Doctor Doom figure as a kid. No, I didn't know about Doom's backstory and all that; I just thought he looked cool.

  • @autobotproductions1244
    @autobotproductions1244 6 лет назад +1

    love the use of the Spider-Man animated series dialogue for the intro

  • @nobodytooimportant3621
    @nobodytooimportant3621 4 года назад +2

    Quote highlights:
    "In the Distant Reaches of the Universe, Far, Far from Planet Earth, an uninhabited Spiral Galaxy turns its everlasting pirouette in magnificent splendor, unseen by living eyes"
    Doom: "Interesting...A gathering of Forces...as if for War!"
    Thor: "Swept Away...Like dust before some unseen giant hand!"
    Ultron: "I am Ultron! My purpose is to Slay that which Lives! You are all Living things! Ergo...ULTRON MUST DESTROY YOU!"
    Beyonder: "I am from Beyond! Slay your enemies and all you desire shall be yours! Nothing you dream of is Impossible for me to Accomplish!"
    Cap America: "What about you Professor? You can read minds. That could come in handy"
    Doom: "The operation of this alien vessel is Child's Play to one of My Intellect!"
    Also Doom: "Is that Pity I see in your eyes Captain America?! And yours Richards?! PITY YOURSELVES!!!"
    She-Hulk: "Oh Wow! That was, Like, Tubular, Y'know, To the MAX!"
    Doom: "Molecule Man...Uh Mr Reece I believe it is?... I trust you were not Inconvenienced?"
    Magneto: "NONE MAY TOUCH THE PERSON OF MAGNETO!!!"
    Also Magneto: "Ah, Good Evening, Miss Van Dyne...Or do you prefer to be called Wasp? Do not bother trying to attack me my dear. My person is magnetically shielded."
    Magneto again: "You are obviously a woman of intelligence and understanding, as well as great beauty~"
    Xavier: "As much as I despise using my Psionic Abilities to forcibly reorder another's mind, there is too much at stake to falter now!"
    Doom: "So be it! Know you then that your choice is irrevocable!...And you will live to regret it!"
    Wasp: "And I wish this place had Plumbing! What sort of beings would build a place with No...No powder rooms?!"
    Also Wasp: "And now that I KNOW you really, Really ARE the most Evil Scum since Hitler, I'M GOING TO STOP YOU!!!"
    Xavier: "A few hours ago I succumbed to Temptation and Psyonically prevented Spiderman from delaying our Journey here! THAT WAS A CRIME! An act I shall long regret...In that moment of Weakness, I was no better than Doom...Or Hitler...Or anyone else who ever used power to usurp another's Freedom...If we are to be allies Magneto, We must first agree that whatever Noble Ends we seek, DO NOT justify Evil Means!"

  • @demi-fiendoftime3825
    @demi-fiendoftime3825 7 лет назад +4

    Despite it's flaws I really enjoy the recent event also called secret wars especially that ending

  • @TerryB01
    @TerryB01 7 лет назад +4

    Event Comic Month is going to be AWESOME! :D

  • @charlesgorman4919
    @charlesgorman4919 7 лет назад +2

    I love Secret Wars too. Best Marvel event of all time.

  • @traxthetrashwizard
    @traxthetrashwizard 7 лет назад +1

    Oh god! I still have to finish reading this! I'll watch this later tonight! (Throws self at Secret Wars book)

    • @traxthetrashwizard
      @traxthetrashwizard 7 лет назад

      I gave up, I just want to read Wonder Woman: the Circle.

  • @jeremycline9542
    @jeremycline9542 7 лет назад

    Mike Zeck, who had done work for Charlton, used to go to the comic shop a mile or two down the road and sign copies of comics that he had drawn.

  • @tonlito22
    @tonlito22 7 лет назад +7

    "Green Team" I think Most of Marvel's early villains were green. Quicksilver wore green. Heck, looking at Spiderman's Rogues Gallery the only non greens I can think of are Kraven, Shocker, Venom, Carnage, and Hobgoblin.
    And Wasp picks up the sack! It starts weird and creepy, then shows you that Wasp played Magneto. Wasp was a little overly cruel with the Nazi analysis, but in fairness his wickedness and cruelty and racist attitudes, especially with someone she a) had hoped was a better person than that, b) just talked cavalierly about killing her friends (including Captain Freakin' America) and c) she just had the sex with. People can get emotional about things like that.

    • @Ajzan1
      @Ajzan1 7 лет назад +1

      Well, green is often used to symbolize evil in media.

  • @jonathanwarrdddedcxddeecec4787
    @jonathanwarrdddedcxddeecec4787 3 года назад +1

    I love how linkara Gave ultron a starscream voice

  • @Daluna13
    @Daluna13 7 лет назад +5

    Doomkara made me laugh, thank you

  • @louisvictor3473
    @louisvictor3473 6 лет назад +7

    I am surprised you have lumped Doom with the other villains rather than the greyzone ones. This is before the Mark Waidization (who apparently can't understand that not everything american has good in it and that not everything not american can have good in it) of Doom. Back then, he was most certainly a grey area character.

  • @SorowFame
    @SorowFame 6 лет назад

    I love it when Linkara makes jokes that trivialise the characters like Doom's pet cat and Galactus learning the Macarena

  • @skyslasher2297
    @skyslasher2297 Год назад

    13:10 You say that but Young Justice proved how potent a bunch of heros sharing a telepathic link can be In the middle of combat

  • @kereminde
    @kereminde 6 лет назад +1

    Linkara: "And Lockheed the dragon."
    Me: ". . . god DAMN it Tiberius! I just got that reference."

  • @luckyowl1681
    @luckyowl1681 7 лет назад

    Oh my goodness, Lewis, I love that cardboard and duct tape mask for that gag.

  • @SMAXZO
    @SMAXZO 7 лет назад +3

    Personally...I kinda prefer the Spiderman Animated Series version of Secret Wars. It gets the story across fine (not sure if they have the Hulk lift a mountain though) and it kinda made Spidey felt important in the proceedings, a step up for Spidey and it kinda played into the power and responsibility thing (he's made the leader of the heroes, hence great power...but he's also responsible should any of them die and such)

  • @Samm815
    @Samm815 7 лет назад +4

    That Doom mask came out of nowhere.

  • @odinofanime
    @odinofanime 7 лет назад +1

    I kinda hope this is how event comic month goes. First Linkara reviews the originals, and then in the second part he reviews the modern equivalents. Convergence and the new Secret Wars.

  • @ghouljoex8744
    @ghouljoex8744 7 лет назад +5

    Thus was not the first time spideys fought the x-men

  • @kingofprosecutors4598
    @kingofprosecutors4598 7 лет назад +28

    Hmmm... I wonder who would win between the Beyonder and the Anti-Monitor

    • @Oliver-fu1go
      @Oliver-fu1go 7 лет назад +19

      King of Prosecutors I would go the beyonder, the anti monitor is damn powerful but still ultimately a physical being, probably be able to withstand the beyonder a good time but ultimately not much way of fighting back.

    • @fudgegorilla
      @fudgegorilla 7 лет назад +13

      The Anti-Monitor needs machines to alter reality. Beyonder...just _does it_

    • @unnamedenemy9
      @unnamedenemy9 7 лет назад +4

      For an idea of how powerful the Beyonder is -- it comes from a reality where it *is* reality. The entirety of this game it's playing is to help it understand what individual and differentiated identity even is because where it came from there was only the Beyonder. It *is* an entire universe. It's a capital G God with basically limitless power. Hell, I seriously doubt that the Anti-Monitor could beat Galactus (though that would be a more fair fight), and the Beyonder treats Galactus as though he's as insignificant as the rest of the cast.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 7 лет назад

      unnamedenemy9 And yet the Beyonder can still be defeated...

    • @unnamedenemy9
      @unnamedenemy9 7 лет назад +5

      by stealing his power, not by punching him -- something which *would* work on the Anti-Monitor (and basically did when Supergirl did it, though she couldn't finish him).

  • @jamesmason7979
    @jamesmason7979 7 лет назад +2

    Molecule Man is definitely a problem for Galactus. In the new Ultimates, Galactus (who has been powered up) flat out says as much.

  • @zicyzacbonanza
    @zicyzacbonanza 7 лет назад +1

    To answer your question about Prof X bringing up mind wiping spidey the answer is a firm "kind of." There's a period where he has to slowly rebuild his mind and his memories and he goes over all the times he has mind wiped people or messed with their heads for what he decided were high stakes and has to grapple with whether or not he can actually be considered a good guy. I think they might bring this up super briefly but I'm not sure.

  • @LexJ52
    @LexJ52 6 лет назад

    that was a bad ass spot-on Professor Xavier Voice

  • @mlovecraftr
    @mlovecraftr 7 лет назад +1

    Fun fact: Titania was the named given to Rogue in the Spanish dub of the 90's X Men animated series. Maybe because no translation of "rogue" could become a good superhero name. Also maybe because in the series Rogue's super strength and flight are her more prominent powers, so they wanted a named that sounded powerful

    • @voltmcvolt1751
      @voltmcvolt1751 7 лет назад +2

      in Brazil, her name is Vampire
      ...
      No joke

    • @mlovecraftr
      @mlovecraftr 7 лет назад +1

      This made go "Wait... what?" Well, at least it makes sense with her energy stealing powers

    • @voltmcvolt1751
      @voltmcvolt1751 7 лет назад

      at least that

  • @noir-214
    @noir-214 Год назад +2

    10:13 Today, the part of Ultron will be played by Starscream.

  • @calsh14
    @calsh14 6 лет назад +2

    Marvel or DC should hire you to write for them. You actually care about the characters. I appreciate your channel and await the day that you do a run on Geoff Johns Teen Titans :)