The Lies of Locke Lamora: Spoiler-free & Spoiler Review | 2 To Ramble #94
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:57 - The Gentlemen Bastards & Author Scott Lynch
3:20 - Spoiler-free thoughts
7:11 - Patrons Opinions
8:17 - Spoiler-free Rating
8:50 - Public Opinions
14:19 - SPOILERS
14:41 - Emotional Impact
23:50 - Characters
50:44 - Plot
1:14:52 - Dialogue / Prose
1:22:09 - Worldbuilding / Magic System
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The jumpcuts after calling Richard a bastard was absolutely hilarious lol
It seems like this channel is growing like crazy right now, and it’s absolutely deserved. You guys are carrying Mondays!
Thank you !!
This is the best book channel. You guys are funny, witty, likable, have good chemistry. Love it.
Thanks a bunch 🙏
By good chemistry you mean that they are super mean to each other 😂 Just kidding these guys are great!!!
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Love this book. It took me a bit to adjust to its storytelling approach. But once it clicked, everything about the book just became great. it's overwhelming with charm. Has one of the best friendships ever written.
Great way of putting it - definitely takes some adjustment to get used to the storytelling approach, wish we said that in the video!
It took me two tries to get into Locke Lamora mostly because I wasn’t prepared for its style. But when I came back the second time around, I was here for it and damn, what a ride.
Same thing happened with Patrick Rothfuss!
That's good to know. I started it and liked it but haven't been hooked yet. Mainly because of the writing style. I hoping that if I start again, with less distraction I will be hooked.
@@kbrandon21the flashbacks can be though, but once you realize they directly y tie in to what’s goin got happen it just clicks
I love the scene where we get a flashback about Father Chains warning about how to behave infront of a bondsmagi and the next scene is Locke saying “Nice bird , arsehole” to him. I nearly fell out of my chair laughing at it
I really enjoyed The Lies of Locke Lamora!
Haven't read the sequels yet but the world and characters are just so charming (just like Austin and Richard from 2ToRamble).
Ahh thank you 🤓. Let’s hope Richard doesn’t read this so his day doesn’t get any better
Found your channel through searching for reviews on this book. Great discussion thanks! Quite a few 'big' booktubers seem to dislike the book and I can't really see why.
I read the Gentleman Bastards series last year and LOVED it! The banter, the action, the friendship🥹. All of it was top tier, but I’m going to need book 4 soon.
I love your podcast so so much!
When I first found your channel, I came for the fantasy discussion, but now I definitely stay for your great personalities which work so well together.
I could happily listen to you guys ramble on all day about literally any topic.
keep doing what you’re doing! ❤🙌🙌
Wow thanks a ton 🙏
Great review you guys! Definitely looking forward to reading this one!
Cheers!
"What does it feel you're only half the name? You're a bastard but you aren't a gentleman?" BBBBBUUUUUURRRRNNNNNN HAHAHAHAAHA I would have NEVER expected it from Austin. He is learning from Rich. It's like Sansa with Littlefinger
My villain arc hath begun lolol
@@2ToRamble I knew I saw some Lysander in you HAHAHAHAHAHA joking joking
lololol@@some5794
I'm so happy you enjoyed The Lies of Locke Lamora!! The series is one of my all time favorites (hopefully gonna be finished one day)
You guys have inspired me to add so many books to my tbr lol 📚 keep up the good work!
Same.. my tbr keeps growing!!
Thank you! Hope they all land for you both 🥂
I read this book years ago and it’s still one of my favourite fantasy books ever.
I have had this on my list for the past year. My nephew had it. I guess ill have to get it.
I just finished reading this book yesterday lol. Great timing
Perfect 👊
I read this a few months ago and really liked it. I'm planning to read the next 2 Gentlemen Bastards in 2024... possibility in between a few more John Gwynne books. 🤔 while waiting for the last Red Rising book, I believe I have some excellent reading ahead.
Jean rhymes with Gone! 😭Other than that great vid guys! This is my fav book OAT!
Damnit, we knew this too 😂 - everyone in our patreon corrected us but we still forgot lol
I LOVED this book and I’m so glad y’all decided to review it 😭😭. I haven’t been watching because most of the books you guys have reviewed I haven’t read yet. Mental health has gotten in the way of reading recently but I’m getting back into it slowly. I’d love to see a review of the assassins apprentice then royal assassin (as I am enjoying the second book even more than the first).
My review of LoLL it was a 4.8/5 if I was being super picky. But this book is so so good. I loved the way the characters interacted with each other and the world around them. I love Scott Lynch’s prose and IN MY OPINION comparing it to Mistborn is a disservice because I really didn’t like the simplicity and repetitiveness of Mistborn. I only read about 75 pages (yes I will continue) but it definitely didn’t hook me and the characters aren’t as interesting as in Lies of Lock Lamora, I also think that the characters are more witty and intelligent especially when it comes to their disguises and their ways about heisting.
So glad y’all made this video!! Thank you!! (:
Thankya for the thoughts and for watching! Best wishes on getting back into reading, glad you were able to join us for this one 😁
This was a great book and a great review, keep making awesome videos! Have you guys thought about possibly doing a Godzilla Minus One review? That movie was amazing!!
Thankya!! AND WE LOVE THAT MOVIE! We actially wanted to record an episode on it but stopped ourselves because it’s not usually our type of content. But so with you. Incredible movie!
You guys need to read ‘The Bound and the Broken’. Just read the first novella, it’s only 90 pages (also the eBook is free) and you will definitely want to read further.
Book one is kinda mid but still enjoyable but the second book is much much better. It’s like stormlight, in the way that it feels a lot different than anything you’ve read while still relying on some classic fantasy tropes. It feels like a love letter to classic dragon-rider fantasy.
I LOLed when he said "We're noise when they're doing something" as I played this video to have something to listen to as I washed the dishes.
Y'all make my tbr list grow too much.
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Otherwise… I’m glad you mentioned the impact of the sinking of all the gold. In many books where religion comes up, it just has no emotional impact or connection for me at all, but the execution in the Gentleman Bastards is just excellent. As you say, the characters *care*, deeply, and it gets the reader to care as well. Not just the caring but also the meaning, I think - the religion infuses meaning and purpose to their actions that otherwise wouldn’t necessarily be there, something that I think comes up in the second book to good effect as well.
As for the actions-implied-through-dialogue - nice catch! I hadn’t consciously noticed it in this series, but it is such a neat trick and I’ll definitely keep an eye out for how it’s done whenever I get around to rereading the series.
I think it’s probably done with more subtlety and skill here by Scott Lynch, but it’s a trick that I noticed was used extensively in The Witcher series as well, and I did find it fascinating there. (I haven’t enjoyed the Witcher series all that much in general, but there are some aspects to how it’s written that are at least interesting to observe and ponder, hah. Though I do always find myself wondering how much some of that has shifted in translation…)
I loved this book. It took me awhile to get into the style, but honestly after I heard the audiobook it really helped. Everything just clicked and I absolutely loved it.
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I highly recommend looking into the Dagger Spell series by Katherine Kerr - amazing fantasy series written in the 80s I believe?
I love this book so much. Lies of Locke Lamora is to me what Red Rising is to Austin. Great review and thanks for giving me some entertainment throughout the work day!
Cheers!!
One of the best books I've read, by far!
excellent as always lads. the shadow rising review when?
Asap, it’s taking us a bit but we’ll get there!
Loved your discussion on this amazing book. Any plans to read and discuss Gunmetal Gods by Zamil Akhtar at some point in the near future?
No plans for the immediate future - would you highly recommend?
I love Lies. Too bad the series will probably never be finished… the 4th books has been “in a good stage, pretty much finished” since 2019 if I remember correctly.
100% recommending the audio book! Michael Page is THE guy and makes this even better than it already is. Like you guys struggled a bit with the names, not happening with his narration, as he elevates it just a bit.
Awesome - heard great things about the narration, will have to remember that if we ever go back to this
Guess I definitely need to read this now
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Richard where is your name of the wind review? I’ve been waiting for you to talk about it.
We’re going to review it as soon as I (austin) get to reading it which is hopefully soon
What plot with the wine are you guys talking about? Do you mean the Austershalan Brandy?
What a fantastic book/series. Best friendship I've encountered in books
Was book 1 your favorite?
@2ToRamble hard to say, I went into book 2 so excited after the first and really flew through it. 3rd was the weakest in my opinion but hoping book 4 will redeem it, roll on 2024. Merry Xmas too lads
sorry took so long to get back to this!! Merry Christmas/Happy NY as well to you!@@Lezzyboy87
I absolutely loved this book. It was top 3 fantasy novel for me.
I think the structure of this book is incredible. I truly think it’s cinematic, meaning, it is paced just right and knows when to slow down and switch gears.
Lynch absolutely nailed it. I want the movie.
What other 2 are in your top 3? And oh yea Lynch did great - maybe a TV show would be better, every episode having a flashback(intermission) that then goes to present day situation and ends the episode just before the next flashback is to come. Either way adaptation would be awesome
I am just discovering this channel I just need to know are these guys a couple? So many videos to catch up on!
Fortunately not🤣
@@2ToRamble I really love your guys dynamic and how very familiar and playful mean Austin is to Richard in some videos, im glad you two are contributing to booktube
Ahh cheers thanks a bunch!
My two pence on waiting for the fourth book is, even if you only just are able to read just the first book, "The Lies of Locke Lamora" it is still very much worth it!
I do hope that you guys will try to get Merphy for a discussion of her favourite series (besides One Piece hahaha)!!!! Would love to see a colab with you guys 😁
I loveddd this book but the second one made me take a break from the series. Excited to see what you think of Red Seas
The issue with your wine idea is that he wanted to take out the nobles children as well and you can't guarantee that all the children and adults are going to drink the wine. Whereas if you turn the entire spire into a gas chamber nobody can escape.
will you guys be doing any malazan reviews in the future?
Likely after our Wheel of Time readthrough so that we’re not takling two huge series at once!
perfect! cant wait to see your video on the shadow rising@@2ToRamble
I wish you could go back to doing the characters, plot, emotional impact, prose, world building sections BEFORE the spoiler section, I feel like I get a lot more enthusiastic about a book when you describe its individual strengths and weaknesses in a spoiler-free manner than when I can't even see anything more detailed than the total rating without seeing spoilers.
This is a great idea - maybe we can give a snippet of this before diving into the spoilers
I dropped this book at 31% maybe you’ll convince me to give it another shot 🤔
I would like to see the fellas thoughts on a book called Swan Song by Robert McCammon
The Shadow Rising review coming soon?
Reading still but will definitely come!
Catching up on some episodes and I notice Richard has a wrist brace?? What happened?
Tweaked his wrist - should be back to normal shortly, nothing serious
Have tried to read it 3x. My problem is the two biggest things I don't like as far as book tropes are anything on ships and thief protagonists. I know, odd, huh? So, this being about thievery pretty much means I will never get thru it. And that makes me sad.
Ahh yea, this is very thief-oriented, makes sense why it doesn’t land for ya
Finished book three last month and unfortunately I am not all that optimistic about the fourth one ever coming out. Hope to be wrong, obviously!
Have y’all thought about doing a weekly or monthly wrap up of everything y’all are reading these videos are great but if I haven’t read the book I only get like 10 minutes of content
We have and will look into doing this! We are pushing to two episodes a week soon so this could be helpful to keep people in the loop - we will check it out!
Hah, good series names? Malazan Book of the Fallen... when you start and finish you understand why. Banks - Culture. Commonwealth Saga - Peter Hamilton. Noble House - James Clavell. Also: Merphy Napier will die on that hill to protect this book how good it is.
It's wild how even I'm a review Rothfuss is up his own ass, whereas Pierce Brown praises the book in an extremely gracious manner.
OH FUCK OH SHIT OH FUCK WHYD I HAVE TO SEE THIS VIDEO NOW WHEN I CANT WATCH IT
Patrick hilariously became a fart in the wind.
I'm pretty sure it's pronounced like John but fancy.
Anyway, love your videos almost as much as I love this book.
We definitely pronounced it wrong - and thankyou for the kindness 🙏👊
Eh great review lads. Rich that big dude banging down low grabbing boards throwing it back out to the skinny lad to drain threes
Love the basketball commentary, you can be the podcast announcer anytime
I agree! The intro to The Name of the Wind did hook me much more strongly than the intro to The Lies of Locke Lamora; I actually found myself rolling my eyes several times over at some of the conceits at the beginning of TLoLL, specifically Locke’s childhood before the temple.
But I’m glad that I persevered through the beginning! TLoLL is *excellent* overall, as well as just being a heck of a lot of fun to read, heh.
Is this kind of series to fill up the void after red rising Series? 😢
We heard Empire of Silence can fill that void - we’re currently reading that!
I remember seeing the hype about gentlemen bastards and buying all three books to read.
Man was I disappointed 🤣 I know I'm the minority 🤣 no disrespect to anyone who likes the books/series ofc, it was just not for me. I think I liked Lies well enough, sad about the twins
But Red Seas was just...the constant manpain from both characters was so annoying. The third book I liked the most out of all, but according to GR I gave them all a 2 star 😆
that being said, I may buy book 4. unless I all of booktube that I follow dislikes it 🤣
Oo 3rd was the best for you! We havent gotten there yet, but this is promising
Okay I bought it, but if it's anywhere near as bad as Name of the Wind I will be depressed
Let us know whatcha think 🙏
Thanks for spoiling it Austin 😢
Lol probably won't read it anyways jk
What happened with all the allegations regarding Scott Lynch and his wife being accused of sexual grooming and abuse?
I think Daniel Green reported on it and then I've not heard anything since.
It's hard for me to read one of their books with something like that in the back of my mind.
As far as I know it stays unresolved. Alexandra Rowland became rather successful author since. You can go ahead and support her work very easily.
@@Morfeusm I'm confused here... so his wife currently is Elizabeth Bear. But on his wikipedia page (whatever that's worth), it states he was previously married to a woman named Jenny...that's it. Alexandra Rowland is not known to be married or remotely related to Lynch.
The accusations are related to him and Bear it seems. Rowland is not his wife
@@vjmtz yes because it’s a mess. All three of them released official statements, we know not much more. It’s not clear cut case of domestic violence.
His wife was never mentioned as a victim.
I’m going to take a stand … I refuse to read a series that has not been finished !!!! 10 years to finish a book is just a dishonour to all the efforts the author has made in bringing the original series to life
Nope, no no no, noooo. Agressively apathetic of this book.
It’s the fantasy book version of a Disney+ show.
Ahh damn, what parts didn’t resonate?
@@2ToRamble It just didn't resonate with me, I took against it early on and it never won me over.
It's one of those books that I constatly hear people gush about and every time I feel like I woke up in a dimension when everything is opposite.
I tried the second book, but the plot went zero to stupid for me in no time and I just couldn't suspend my disbelief and had to drop it.
It's been a while so I don't remember all the details, but to me every time Locke was supposed to come off as smart, I just felt like other people came of as super stupid instead. So my contempt for characters and plot just kept going up until I stoped caring and zero emotional impact equals dead book for me.
Ahh fair enough!@@SonOfSeth
Pronounce it "Jeen" one more time I fucking dare you 🤬
Haha it's pronounced like "Sean" but with a french "J" like Jéane Van Dam
I loved this one earlier this year! The prose, dialogue, characters, and humor were phenomenal! Top 10 fantasy book for me!