Happy new Year everyone! Let's ringing in the new year with the last movie of one of the best trilogies of all time. Wishing you and all your loved ones a great year ahead! Also on a side note, I totally get why people say to watch the extended editions. However, I think that for a first time viewer, it's nice to watch the theatrical first, and then by the time you see the extended edition, you're able to appreciate it more and understand what wasn't in the first version. I think this is the way most of you have experienced it.
I enjoyed it so much! You can buy the extended edition box sets with extras that show how the movie was made and you learn so much that makes it more magical. Did you know Robert Lee, Saruman, personally KNEW Tolkien
Don't let anyone bully you over the extended edition! You are 100% right, theatrical is much better for a first viewing, and honestly just better overall films.
Hey, don't treat him badly! Sam is my hero since 20 years ago! I do want to be like him, but just I can't cause he's really really great. Integrity, humility, affection, kindness, strength, loyalty and braveness, optimism but never being delusional. He believes in friendship and love. He's able to sacrifice for what it is important for his values, but never being a martyr. And as a frame of all this, he's ironic and light-hearted.
I'm watching this video on my TV. At that part I grabbed my phone, looked up this video, came to the comments section, and here I find that you've already written precisely what I wanted to write! Thank you, friend.
53:58 'It's a pity Bilbo didn't kill Gollum when he had the chance.' Gandalf replied, 'Pity? It's a pity that stayed Bilbo's hand... Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment, for even the very wise cannot see all ends. My heart tells me that he has some part to play yet, for good or ill, before the end; and when that comes, the pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many" - Gandalf.
'Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. I have not much hope that Gollum can be cured before he dies, but there is a chance of it. And he is bound up with the fate of the Ring. My heart tells me that he has some part to play yet, for good or ill, before the end; and when that comes, the pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many - yours not least. In any case we did not kill him: he is very old and very wretched. The Wood-elves have him in prison, but they treat him with such kindness as they can find in their wise hearts.' -Gandalf
I think you’re being way too hard on Frodo at the end. He had the hardest job of carrying the ring the whole way. Even Gandalf wouldn’t carry the ring because he knew how it changes you. The fact that he made it 99% of the way is amazing. I don’t think anyone could’ve done better.
No one could do better. Literally. The power of the ring prevented people from willingly destroying it. Gandalf knew this. He knew a confrontation and accidental drop would be the only way. He was hopeful but still willing to sacrifice the hobbits. The movies should’ve made this clearer.
Galadriel too....she basically continued what Gandalf was saying about the end result of someone, certainly those as powerful as them, taking the Ring.
Placing the ring in an envelope and handling it that way seemed to be no problem for Gandalf - so it's best to just take the story as Tolkien wrote it and deal with that.
"Oh no, even Sam is getting tainted with it!" that's after having in for an hour or two max, compared to Frodo carrying it for roughly eleven months at that time. Samr deserves all the praise he gets, but Frodo deserves none of the flak he receives.
@@spencergrady4575 He was just who Eru picked and even then he was picked because Bilbo was picked when Eru directed Gollum to lose the ring for Bilbo to find in Goblin Town. He wasn't anything special and that was the whole point of why he is a hero. Any number of hobbits could have endured the same as Frodo since they do not usually care for greed and are hard to corrupt. Frodo's journey was just to carry the ring, never to destroy it. Tolkien himself states in letters that Eru pushed the dancing Gollum into mount doom where as it was written in the text that Gollum slips and falls. You're confusing playing Frodo's significance with speciality.
@garethlawton5278 not confusing anything; people love to put Frodo down in order to elevate Sam. He is the one who made the journey and got the Ring as far as anyone ever could have before it became impossible. He made the journey no one else did. To diminish his accomplishment simply because he was "meant" to do something is to diminish the entire journey and story. Sauruman, Radaghast, and the two Blue wizards were also "meant" to accomplish their task, yet only one out of five did. Because he was meant to should we cease glorifying Gandalf? After all he only did his job 🤷♂️ Frodo carried the Ring to Rivendell out of sheer will, and offered to carry it further by choice. By your logic, Frodo could have done exactly what Sam did FOR Sam had he been the one to carry the ring. Should we not celebrate Sam anymore?
No one in Middle Earth would have been able to let go of the ring, there at the height of it's power (the Ring grows more powerful the closer to Mt. Doom it gets). Frodo's choice to spare Smeagol and trust him as a guide was the reason the Ring was destroyed. Even Sam, as good a person as he is, would have failed if their roles were reversed. Sam would have killed Smeagol and the Ring would have survived. Frodo's pity and desire to save Smeagol saved Middle Earth.
The influence of the ring is impossible to resist. Frodo was the only one who could have endured it for so long, and even he could not destroy it in the end. Not because Frodo was weak, quite the opposite: he was the strongest, but even his strength was not enough. The point of this matter is that no one could have destroyed the ring, not Gandalf, not Aragorn, not Galadriel, not Sam. All will eventually succumb to it. And only Frodo's mercy for Gollum have caused it to end this way. If you have Forodo for messing up, then you may as well hate all other characters, because they would have failed much sooner.
In Sammath Naur, in the heart of Sauron’s realm and where it was made, it would have been impossible to willingly destroy the ring. There was never a plan for that moment. Short of pushing Frodo in an accident was the only way the ring would have gone to the fire.
The way the ring is destroyed in the end is all about how evil is self destructive. The draw of power corrupts, but in the end it is two fighting over that power that leads to its destruction.
@@Valecan In the movie, yes. In the book, while Frodo also claimed the ring as his own, Gollum did a bit too much dancing around and a bit too little watching where he was putting his feet.
Frodo never fully healed from his wounds, which means he could never stay happy in Middle-Earth. He, Gandalf, Bilbo, and the rest are going to the undying lands (Elf heaven essentially), where mortal beings usually aren't allowed. An exception is made for Frodo and Bilbo because they were ring bearers. In the appendices we learn that Sam becomes mayor of the Shire and lives a long and happy life. After his wife dies, he also sails west to the undying lands because he was briefly a ring bearer. So Frodo and Sam do meet again. Merry and Pippin spend their days with Aragorn in Gondor, and when they die they are buried next to Aragorn's grave. Legolas and Gimli remain friends, and their friendship heals the rift between Dwarf and Elf. When they reach their end, they also sail to the undying lands together. It's a massive honor for Gimli, being a dwarf, and never a ring bearer. Once they leave, the fellowship is gone from Middle Earth forever.
No mortal could willingly destroy the ring. Especially in the heart of its power where it was forged. Gandalf actually knew this. He just trusted that if Frodo could get it there, fate would handle the rest.
And mortal in the broadest sense here. Gandalf, Galadriel, and the rest of the elves would have all been corrupted. Anyone sentient and living in Middle Earth except for Tom Bombadil who cant travel to mount doom.
@@TAOSCIENCE - And Tolkien said that Bombadil was his own avatar in these stories. He was a dispassionate and neutral storyteller who chronicled the histories of the world, from it's beginnings until it's very end. He was, for all intents and purposes, JRR Tolkien himself
Middle Earth lore states the corruption of the ONE Ring grows stronger the closer to Mount Doom is gets. No single person in Middle Earth can let go of the ring when holding it at Ground Zero.
The ending of the book is a bit different, but the meaning is the same. Tolkien's idea is that a human being (in this case, a Hobbit) can only go so far, no matter how strong-willed they are. In the end, divine providence will act in a very complex way. If you think about it, even when Bilbo spared Gollum, it was one of the necessary factors to save the world. Among other things.
The extended edition gives more scenes than the theatrical version. Yes, is a bit longer but is worth it. Check out those when you want to watch the movies again. Great reaction!
But you would not have that reaction at 42:38, The "we fight" and the scene boarding the ships, not add anything. but the surprsie when they show up again (after 1h in the movie) is great, as you can see. for first time watching.
@@klofat The only important scene from the ROTK extended was Saruman's fate. Other than that to me everything else could be done away with even Eowyn's dream about the wave that was originally a Faramir dream in the book. Having the anticipation build up of rather or not Aragorn and CO showing up with the undead is better than seeing them join and finding out they boarded the ship and were on their way.
15:10 That city was Osgiliath, a great river port and early capital of Gondor. Around 1,500 years before the time of these films it started falling into ruin under famine and civil war. The capital was moved to Minas Tirith. Osgiliath slowly depopulated and became derelict, more a symbolic relic than a functional city.
Frodo didn't mess up. The ring had a fail safe. No being in existence could have thrown it in the fire. Gandalf gambled on it somehow accidentally falling into the fire. Frodo was amazing.
@@flerbus хоть орлы и нейтрализовали назгулов в битве у Черных врат, но какого-то сильного урона крылатым тварям они не нанесли. Поэтому просто так Том Бомбадил бы не попал в Мордор на орлах. Скорее всего он даже не мог бы пройти дальше определенного растояния от своего леса.
It isn't stated in the films for whatever reason, but according to Tolkien, the One Ring has a failsafe Sauron embedded into it when he created it. The ring is at it's most seductive and corrupting when it's being held above the Sea of Fire in the location where Sauron forged it. Once the ring is held out over the lava from the stone terrace, it's actually physically impossible for anyone to toss it in. The only way it could ever possibly be destroyed is the way it happened here- by having two people so enthralled by it that they try to destroy the other to take it for themselves.
@@nathanbean8763 Are you sure? Because I do not recall that being the source of his demise. I'm not disputing you. I'm just asking for clarity. Perhaps it's a detail I glosed over while reading it, and then the subsequent images of how Gollum died in the film overtook it in my mind as the way it happened in the canon
Book experts, please correct me if I'm wrong. Osgiliath used to be the capitol of Gondor. I believe it was positioned there to guard the narrowest part of the river Anduin. Also, the dead city Minas Morgol used to be part of Gondor and was a sister city to Minas Tirith and was previously called Minas Anor.
You can see Frodos guilt. He doesn't see himself as worthy. He knows he didn't complete the task. He knows he failed and it was circumstance which saved the world
In the theater, you could FEEL that clash when the horsemen rode into the orc frontlines. I still remember how that felt every time I see it, even in a RUclips video.
Don't wish to have a friend like Sam. Be someone else's Sam. And in the volcano, the compulsion of the Ring is absolutely overwhelming, nobody alive would have the willpower to drop the Ring, not Gandalf, not Aragorn, nobody.
Don't be so hard on frodo. He carried evil encarnate, for hundreds of miles and over years. The ring corrupts the will, it's why he can't put it down. Noone can.
In the book, I don't think he used it for the 17 years he had it (before he left on the journey). According to some research, the journey of him carrying the ring took 26 weeks. So, he didn't technically carry it for years.
In the books Frodo and Gollum don't fight over the ring after Gollum bites it off his fingers. The film chose to add the bit of extra drama between Frodo and Gollum. In the book, Gollum is so happy when he gets the ring back he's jumping up and down with joy and slips and falls into Mt. Doom - basically the ring is destroyed by accident.
1:03:45 - Smeagol was a different kind (of three) of hobbit, a "Stoors", the most related to humans, and so he was the more prone to be controlled by the ring. Frodo was a "Fallowhide" and Sam was an "Harfoot". Also, Smeagol was raised in a very wealthy family and his upbringing was very different from ordinary hobbits who prefer to have fun all day long.
Good info, but the Bagginses, Tooks, and Brandybucks were all rich families as well. The biggest difference is that Smeagol was a nasty piece of work even before finding the ring.
Part of what you are missing with Denethor (Boromir and Faramir's father) is that he was heavily influenced by Sauron through another Palentir (crystal ball). Some key points about Denethor and the Palantir: 1. Misguided Confidence - Denethor believed he could use the Palantir to gauge Sauron's strength without being influenced, but Sauron cleverly manipulated the visions he saw. 2. Deceptive Visions - Sauron showed Denethor the Black Fleet approaching Gondor, but did not reveal that it was actually Aragorn's forces coming to their aid, leading Denethor to believe his doom was certain. 3. Impact on his Psyche - The visions of overwhelming darkness and impending defeat from the Palantir greatly impacted Denethor's mental state, accelerating his decline and fueling his despair.
❤ Denethor = done dirty: He was way more noble & mighty in the books. contended wills with Sauron for decades nonstop & even now was never broken nor could Sauron alter what Denethor would see in the palantir even then he couldn’t control what Denethor had control of which was how he CHOSE to INTERPRET the visions given to him. Using it all to Gondor’s advantage! ❤ he also lit the beacons and got the women & children far away from the city longer ahead of time. So the movie butchered him as well as faramir but they didn’t butcher Faramir as badly thankfully. He could have been shown to give Pippen his newest order to light the beacons so then it wouldn’t change the scene much at all as presented! The story here is Faramir’s birth ended up killing his mother Finduilas(named after an elvish princess from the era of Children Of Hùrin was set in);she was a Numenorean woman of the Faithful which her ancestors survived the Cataclysm of Númenor by the way! He was hurt deeply by her death and ontop of that Faramir had the likeness both in temperament as well as his appearance/bearing so he was reminded of his wife over & over again by Faramir who was just like her, and all it took was a simple look or what-have-you to drive the knife in deeper into his heart about his wife. But also Aragorn when he went by the name gifted to him as Thorongil Denethor’s father basically overshadowing him from his own father so he is as psychology goes: treated Boromir the same way his father treated Aragorn/Thorongil. Note that Boromir and Faramir are half Númenorean which is a big thing as far as the legendarium goes! And it’s something to note that he treated Boromir like his father treated the clandestine Aragorn as Thorongil. Denethor actually did many things the movie shows him not doing or neglecting. He was VERY competent and mighty in many craft and (even a lore-master to a degree). He had quite alot of mental and “magical” might which is why he could contend with Sauron too without being harmed in there process in any way!
1:04:46 "Everything happening for a reason" and Frodo not having the strength to destroy the ring are incredibly intertwined concepts in the wider legendarium. Tolkien himself stated that no creature would've been able to willingly through the ring into the fire; and he strongly implied that Gollum's fall was at least comically encouraged by Eru Iluvatar aka God in his universe.
31:35 Many overlook the impact and importance of Pippen until this moment. Obviously the books give a lot more detail and information regarding Sam, Meri and Pippen assisting Frodo. When Pippen mentions "of course I know a Baggins, Frodo Baggins" Strider had confirmation he was the correct Hobbit. If Pippen had not left a sign for Strider to follow. If he had not woken the Belrog, Gandalf the White would not have existed. If Pippen didn't convince Treebeard to turn around and go to war against Saruman. It was also Pippen's curiosity that made him look into the Palentir and acquire information about where Sauron would strike. He lit the Beacon to inform Rohan (the book is different). He saved Faramir and Gandalf from possible death. Not to mention Meri and Pippen distracting the Orcs so Frodo could escape in "The Fellowship" and the first to follow Aragon into the final battle
@yotsu8495 to be honest, I thought she was was more observant than most. Just highlighting Pippen "fool of a Took" moments that were pure luck or genuine acts of bravery (although he didn't save Faramir in the books
That city, Osgiliath ("Citadel of Many Stars"), is the deserted ancestral capital of Gondor. It was guarded by Minas Arnor (Tower of Sun) and Minas Ithil (Tower of Moon). In the past, the armies of Mordor captured Minas Ithil, and thus it became Minas Morgul (Tower of Dark Sorcery). Osgilliath fell into ruin after a plague devasted Gondor and led to a civil war and in the last centuries following the War of the Ring, Minas Arnor became Minas Tirith (Tower of Guard/Vigilance), and the declining Gondor's new capital, while Osgilliath is just an army outpost to guard the river passage and the first line of defense against Mordor now.
For 14:21 I'll write about the real powers of the Nazguls. friends, the Nazguls are not just beings that fight with swords and their mounts. One of their weapons is their screams. These screams are not normal screams. They are magical screams. It is a weapon that creates fear, terror and panic in the hearts of even the bravest soldiers who are exposed to this scream. When heard from a certain distance, it can paralyze, knock out and even kill with its black curse. In other words, people do not cover their ears just because it makes a high-pitched sound. The soldiers lay down their weapons and fall to the ground in fear. They fall asleep and faint, or even die. These are not such poor humans, they are brave Gondor soldiers. Their second weapon is that they are surrounded by a cursed and black magic Aura known as Black Breath or Faul Breath. So, for example, there is a black magic aura around them with a diameter of 4-5 meters. .. Even if a Nazgul never touches you, staying within 4-5 meters of them for a certain period of time means that you will be poisoned by this black curse, fall down and die, and fall into dark nightmares and not be able to wake up. Think of it like a radioactive substance. If you are exposed to it at a certain distance for a certain period of time, it will cause painly death. You die in it after a while. These weapons are called Black Breath/ Faul Breath. Now, do you understand why Eowyn and Pippin remained in a coma state in the hospital after killing the Witch King, but Aragorn barely saved them? :D
Frodo did what any mortal being would have done with the ring; as @satinbarbi stated. Sauron was so confident that the ring would never allow itself to be destroyed that the idea of it actually being destroyed was unthinkable. He was so confident in the corruptive influence of the the ring that even the idea of somebody wanting to make the attempt at the journey was to him a non-issue, sure that they would keep it for themselves. So great in fact is Sauron's hubris that he is convinced that the ring had to be in Gondor brought by Mary and is surely now in Aragorn's possession because what else could it be other than an assurance of power that would make Aragorn mount a frontal assault when outnumbered at least 10:1. And just as Gollum was the final instrument of the ring's destruction Sauron himself planted the seeds of its' destruction.
The little girl who runs up to Sam at the end is Sean Astins' (Sams) daughter. Also, after having many many children and being elected and reelected mayor of the Shire many times, Sam eventually gets to sail into the West following Frodo. Whether Frodo was still alive after all this years is never written by Tolkien. But it's nice to think they get to see each other again.
Two fun behind-the-scnes facts. The arm we see holding Sting as Sam arrives to save Frodo is actually director Peter Jackson's armed, filmed in his flat in London by (reportedly) Andy "Smeagol" Serkis. And the scene where the Witch King tells Gothmog (disfigured Orc) to send in the whole army is basically one guy talking to himself, as both characters were played by the same actor. Aragorn and Arwen had three children; a son named Eldarion, and two unnamed daughters. As to what percentage of which race the children would have, that gets complicated. Elrond is also known as the half-Elven, as both of his parents were also half-elven. Elrond chose to be considered one of the Elves, hence his long life, and married Celebrian, the daughter of Galadriel and Celeborn. Technically this makes makes Arwen full elven, but as we saw she was granted the same choice as her father as to which race to be counted. Aragorns lineage makes things even more complicated, as his ancestor was Elros, Elrond's brother, who chose to be counted among the race of Men. He was the first king of Numenor, and lived to be five hundred years old. This was typical among the Numenoreans, later to be known as the Dunedain, though that number began to decrease. This led to Sauron becoming, if you'll excuse the potical reference, Elon Musk to the last King of Numenor, who was very trump-like in blaming others for the problems of his kingdom. He attacked Valinor, causing Eru, the God-being who oversees everything, to change the shape of the world, sparing only those among the Numenoreans who remained faithful to the old ways of their people.All of this to say the blood of the Dunedain began as half elven, but became much mingled with other races of men over the thousands of years since the fall of Numenor.
@9:49 Elrond is half-men-half-elf (He was known as Elrond Half-Enven, actually). The union between Elf and Men only happened twice before Arwen and Aragorn.
I don't know if it's in the books or not but I keep seeing people saying that no one could willing destroy the ring in the heart of Mount Doom, where it's power was the strongest. Remember in Fellowship that Gandalf said that he felt that Gollum still had a part to play. One of the those parts was fighting Frodo for the ring to bring about it's destruction in Mount Doom.
I never understand the hate with Frodo at the end. The movie shows you over and over again how this Ring is beyond ANYONE. Frodo gets all the way to the end before it corrupts him "completely," or just to the level Gollum wanted it, and it's still not enough for the casual movie goer. People forget the Ring's track record of dooming its owners. They forget who made it. They forget how wearing/carrying the Ring and being around it are totally different. They forget how both Gandalf and Galadriel were afraid to even touch it. They forget every decent thing Frodo did or said even up to Mt Doom itself. It just goes to show how little our threshold is for people who show weakness or fall short. The natural distaste we have for weakness is a very animal trait we don't think we have because on paper we agree it's bad, but nature is telling us....eliminate the weak. And it leaks through in the most innocent places, like in our appraisal of even fictional characters. Ew, Frodo struggles....push him in too.
Not sure that it's a 'nature' thing, more of egocentrism. "Failure? That person is of no use to me, I dislike them." rather than empathizing with their struggle and appreciating the accomplishments despite this.
Merry's blow to the Witch King was much more significant than explained in the movie. The sword he carried was given to him by Aragorn on Weathertop according to the movie but in the original story it was gained from The Barrow Downs, a part of the adventure not covered in the movie. The sword was enchanted to fight wraiths, the undead, and it was this enchantment that allowed it to mortally wound the Witch King. When Merry struck the Witch King with that particular sword he cut the threads of the enchantment which made him invulnerable to mortals allowing Eowyn to deal a killing blow. She would have surely died without Merry being with her... or something like that, it's been decades since I last read the books.
Regarding Aragorn and Arwen having children, Elrond (Arwen's father) is known as "Half-Elven", because half his ancestors were human and half elvish. Aragorn's ancestor about 40 generations back was Elrond's brother, so there's a tiny bit of elf in him too. That's what makes the Dunedain so long lived.
"Brave Horses" oh yes indeed! The Rohirrem love their horses as much as their kin, and that usually means that such horses will fearlessly fight for their riders. After the Hobbits the riders of Rohan are my favorite people in Middle Earth.
The little girl that runs to Sam at the end is Sean Astin's Daughter (She graduated from college in 2023)! The baby held by Rosie is that actresses' baby!
In the books, it's explained that Denethor was secretly using the palantir of Minas Tirith (one of the same 'seeing stones' that Pippin picked up at Isengard and looked into) to try to see what was going on in Middle-earth. However, like Saruman's palantir, Denethor's palantir was already under the influence of Sauron, who manipulated it so that Denethor could only see evidence that the people of Gondor had no hope of winning (hence Denethor's despair).
I can still remember the 90's and early 2000's where I grew up, and Sam's attitude towards friendship didn't seem so odd back then and there... It felt more like what we would have expected, what we would happily have done for each other. Sam was simply seen as a true friend, much like what we at least seemed to think we all had in each other. Today... It seems nothing like that. Friendship today seems so bloody cheap, sometimes outright worthless...
@@yotsu8495 she’ll be added to the compilation channels create where the videos themselves do the roasting of said people who get caught faking first time reaction etc etc. same as people promoting ROP. Essentially they roast themselves with their weird behaviour.
Sam hesitates ONLY because his friend was so tortured. His heart was so pure, and he only had the ring for less than a day, he was not affected by it's power yet. The book states this, and even Sean Astin enforces that story line.
Glad to see you came around about Frodo afterwards! And I wish you’d seen the extended editions. Lots more context (including when Eowyn meets Faramir in this movie). Please watch extended editions for Hobbit reactions!
It's a great twist that even Frodo is corrupted in the end, but what ultimately saves the day is Gollum's greed and Sam's unswerving loyalty... as if to say that even people's vices can have a role to play in making an ultimately happy ending, and nobody can do it all alone.
The ruined city that is attacked near the beginning is Osgiliath, the old capital of Gondor. It was abandoned over 500 years ago, becoming little more than a military outpost since then. It's still strategically important because it has bridges across the river Anduin.
Good reaction and glad you liked the series but you were wayyy too harsh on Frodo. Just think about his resisting the rings coercing his mind and his physical stamina (evidenced by the ring and chain being so heavy it leaves marks on his neck) the entire time, and he's resisting but getting weaker. Then at the end the ring puts it's full might against Frodo's weakened will. It was only at the end against the rings full might that he finally wavers.
21:32 Of course Frodo knows Sam doesnt betray to him but Frodo thought that ring effected to him..Because The ring can effect anybody (even powerful Gandalf).. And of course the ring make him(Frodo) think like that..
Gollum loosing it that fast in the presence of the ring is a thing in the movie to make the intro easier to digest. He was a trickster for a while before he was banished and then several hundred years of getting corrupted by the ring alone.
Sauron not only let one of the seeing stones go to Sauromon, but also, Lord Denethor of Gondor had one as well. Sauron drove him mad through it. That is why he becomes more and more disturbed.
After the battle of Gondor, and the black gate, those who are injured are taken to Gondor's houses of healing. It looks like Rivendell but they are still in the white city.
Although it was due to sickness and not excessive cruelty, but the LOTR trilogy has the distinction of having more animals die during filming than any other film. Over 140 horses died during the filming.
In the books, Eowyn kills the ugly Orc, but Aragorn kills the witch king in the scene at the black gate, instead of the cave troll he battles in the movie.
The ring was designed to overturn anybody's thoughts of destroying it upon the threshold of the mountain of fire. Isildur met this force when he had the opportunity and so would have Elron if he would've had it in his hands instead. And then Frodo met this ring's force where it basically got destroyed by chance of being fumbled around during a struggle. So, by way of struggle or accident fall into the fire was the only way it could be destroyed.
I don’t think she has the brainpower to think about as more than a super hero movie, which is why she thinks Frodo is a loser. I don’t she even knows it’s based on books.
it's been so long since i saw the non extended edition i forgot how weird the cutting of Saruman's final scene is in the beginning. Treebeard: "There's a WIZARD to manage here." Gandalf: "Huh? No, Saruman's no threat anymore, forget him. We don't need to deal w him." Gandalf: "Oh huh, weird, here's this Palantir just sitting in the water. This was kept in Saruman's tower and is a precious thing, but here it just randomly is w no explanation, in the water next to me. Better take it."
I noticed something........ Literally every single person that comes across a hobbit, Absolutely adores them almost immediately. Gandalf has been fond of them forever. The elves all enjoy them as well. Elrond and Bilbo are good friends. But also look at king Theoden. He was genuinely pleased to have Merry be his Squire. And even though we are meant to hate him.....even Denathor was VERY kind to Pippin.....until he went crazy.
In the end, Frodo could not bring himself to drop the Ring into the lava pit of Orodruin/Mount Doom, because it could somehow sense that it would be unmade and put forward all of it's malign coercive power to save itself. Perhaps it could even absorb additional energy from the infernal power of the volcano itself where it was originally crafted by Sauron. Even though he was the Ring bearer, Frodo was still a mortal, wrestling against the stored diabolical power of Sauron, a fallen Ainur, an originally angelic being brought into existence by the thought of Eru, the One,
Fun Fact- Pippin was so inspired by Faramir's honor & humility, that he named his only son "Faramir Took", who went on to marry Samwise's daughter, Goldilocks. This ties back to what Bilbo says at the beginning of the story... "there's always been a Baggins in Bag End... & there always will be." The Tooks are a branch of the Baggins family tree, & when Frodo gives Sam his home, he is essentially saying that he IS a Baggins. The fact that his daughter married a Took just means that his descendants will not just be "honorary Baggins", for all intents & purposes they will be Bagginses by blood, as well
The power of the Ring was at its most ultimate when Frodo was holding it over the fire. It's basically impossible to overcome the Ring's influence for self-preservation at that point. It could only be destroyed by selfishness, by its own importance. That's why Gollum was the one finally take it over the edge, utterly consumed by its influence and willing to die for it, especially as he had no expectation of actually doing so.
It's actually pretty genius how the ring's story is wrapped up. Sauron would've never assumed that anyone would choose to destroy the ring, because it's an item of immense power and he views the world in terms of power, firstly. He also would've never believed that anyone could have the strength to destroy it, and *he would've been right*. Gollum took an oath to serve Frodo, and swore this oath on the ring itself. At the end, gollum broke his oath and the ring did indeed punish him for it. And so, the ring created the means of its own destruction
My favorite scenes are when they focus on the ring. I have an idea why, it's universally creepy in a way an inanimate object has a will of it's own and actively trying to destroy you. Like a posessed doll or something
Happy New Year Snax. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 may it be your best ever Great reactions to 3 of the greatest films ever...imo. I do hope you react to the Hobbit as its a great story as well. I dont know if you're a book lover or not but both of these tales are better in book form, there is just to much story to be all included in a film. If you thought these were hella long i can only imagine what length a film would need to be to tell these tales in the detail of the books. Always love seeing your beautiful smiling face and im lovin the GoT reaction....take care ❤
No being is capable of willingly destroying the ring. Sauron knew this but never expected it to be destroyed by two people fighting over their total dependance of it. Sam was the classic hero, he remained true to his mission and friend then got his happy ever after ending. Smeagol was also an unwitting hero, the ring never would have been destroyed if not for him being there at that moment. Gandalf knew he had some part to play and hoped he would live to tell the tale, notice how he brought 3 eagles to Mount Doom. But Frodo was by far the greatest hero in the story, no one would have been able to carry it as far as him before becoming corrupted by it and the wounds he suffered ultimately cost him his life.
FYI- Denethor (the Steward of Gondor) was in possession of one of the Palintir "Seeing Stones" . While trying to spy on Sauron with it, Sauron used his power to cause Denethor to be corrupted with jealousy and despair.
Denethor = done dirty: He was way more noble & mighty in the books. contended wills with Sauron for decades nonstop & even now was never broken nor could Sauron alter what Denethor would see in the palantir even then he couldn’t control what Denethor had control of which was how he CHOSE to INTERPRET the visions given to him. Using it all to Gondor’s advantage! ❤ he also lit the beacons and got the women & children far away from the city longer ahead of time. So the movie butchered him as well as faramir but they didn’t butcher Faramir as badly thankfully. He could have been shown to give Pippen his newest order to light the beacons so then it wouldn’t change the scene much at all as presented! The story here is Faramir’s birth ended up killing his mother Finduilas(named after an elvish princess from the era of Children Of Hùrin was set in);she was a Numenorean woman of the Faithful which her ancestors survived the Cataclysm of Númenor by the way! He was hurt deeply by her death and ontop of that Faramir had the likeness both in temperament as well as his appearance/bearing so he was reminded of his wife over & over again by Faramir who was just like her, and all it took was a simple look or what-have-you to drive the knife in deeper into his heart about his wife. But also Aragorn when he went by the name gifted to him as Thorongil Denethor’s father basically overshadowing him from his own father so he is as psychology goes: treated Boromir the same way his father treated Aragorn/Thorongil. Note that Boromir and Faramir are half Númenorean which is a big thing as far as the legendarium goes! And it’s something to note that he treated Boromir like his father treated the clandestine Aragorn as Thorongil. Denethor actually did many things the movie shows him not doing or neglecting. He was VERY competent and mighty in many craft and (even a lore-master to a degree). He had quite alot of mental and “magical” might which is why he could contend with Sauron too without being harmed in there process in any way!
It was the ring that controlled Frodo in that last moment. I'm glad you are going to watch The Hobbit (make sure you watch the exytended version too) as there is a lot of backstory to TLOTR that isn't in the cinematic version including the origins of the sword, the mithral armour, how Bilbo got the ring etc. also a lot of foreshadowing for TLOTR.
I think I read somewhere that the actors playing hobbits actually wore kind of 'feet shaped' shoes that were specially made to fit each one of them. Faramir's father hated him because Faramir's mother died during childbirth, and he held Faramir responsible for it. That's why Boromir was always his favourite.
It’s really sad. The entire movie actually doesn’t make sense without understanding the absolute power of the ring on all beings, so it’s not clear what she got out of it other than a superhero movie
When Deagol found the ring it had been at the bottom of a river to 2500 years. Then, when Smeagol arrived, the ring "saw" that, of the pair, Smeagol was the more dominant. and easily influenced... so it exerted its influence as strongly as it was able to, to seize Smeagol, but Smeagol killing Deagol had consequences that the ring could not foresee or control...... and Smeagol's family drove him out. (Deagol was his Cousin and best friend...) Thus the ring ended up being held underground for 500 more years.... Giving it time to corrupt Smeagol completely. But, Smeagol would have been content to stay there, and the ring had dimly perceived Sauron's return and growing power (probably from Smeagol eavesdropping on Orcs and Goblins in the tunnels.)
If you are itching for more, watch the extended versions. You’ll get more backstories and lore and none of the scenes are throwaways! Enjoyed your reaction.
I can see why you might be dumbfounded with Frodo failing in the end, but any bearer of the Ring would have failed to destroy it. Gandalf says that "clearly the ring had an unwholesome power that set to work on its keeper at once." It immediately sinks its claws into you, poisons you with its influence. Remember that the main power of the One Ring is domination, so it would not let its bearer destroy it. For a Ring of Power "its keeper never abandons it, they all look after themselves" thus again, the One would not let its bearer destroy it. Elrond was known as the eldest of Aragorn's race because he was half-Elven. Both of Elrond's parents (Eärendil and his wife Elwing whose parents were Dior, the son of Beren and Luthien, and Nimloth who was a kinsman if Galadriel's husband Celeborn) were likewise half-Elven. His Elven forebears were the princess of Gondolin (her name was Idril), the princess of Doriath (her name was Luthien and Arwen resembled her in appearance, but Luthien's mother was a Maia like Gandalf and Saruman are, and her father Thingol was the king of Doriath where the Sindar dwelt who were comparable in might to the Elves who had seen the light of the Two Trees), and Nimloth who was the wife of the half-Elf Dior (the parents of Elrond's mother), Tuor was Idril's husband (the parents of Elrond's father), Beren was Luthien's husband (their son Dior and his elven wife Nimloth were the parents of Elrond's mother Elwing), and both of them were men (of the three houses of the Edain). Arwen and Aragorn were married for 120 years and lived in "great glory and bliss". They had several children, a son Eldarion and daughters. Arwen could not stomach Aragorn's passing and she said farewell to her children before she left to die alone in the abandoned lands that her grandparents (Galadriel and Celeborn) used to rule over. So far as the underlying principles of this story are concerned I do not think you or many contemporary people would be open to them. Sure fides (loyalty) might sound fine but there is an aversion that people these days have to it as atomized men and women (who embrace individualism). Loyalty was the glue that held together traditional societies. There is also the idea of inequality, hierarchy, master and servant (like Frodo and Sam), monarchy, aristocracy, bloodlines, regression (a cyclical vision of time as seen in the Hindu doctrines with the Yugas, or in Hesiod with the golden/silver/bronze/heroic/iron ages, and elsewhere) rather than the widely held contemporary belief in progressivism which is basically the so-called course of history that keeps one passive in the face of the current of subversion. We live in an age of conformist, democratic leveling, materialism, the cult of the expert and brain trust, the exaltation of economics, liberalism (here liberty is seen in individualistic, egalitarian, and privatized terms), the bourgeois family (if family is even a thing at all these days as people see their pets as children and the like), etc. So the worlds are quite different (ours versus LotR's which itself is in a process of decline prior to the heroic age ushered in by Aragorn that will reflect the golden age).
Anyone who had the ring for more than a little bit had to leave Middle Earth eventually. In the books, even Sam ends up going later when he's older. Gimli goes there too with Legolas. In fact, I believe there were only 2 hobbits, 1 dwarf, and 1 human ever allowed to go west with the elves
Ten times less frustrating. Denethor was amazing and never lost to Sauron. Ever. Kept him at bey in more ways than one and mastered the Palantir of which all of them were created by Fëanor so they’re anything but unholy. Meaning they’re holy.
The thing is, there was actually no way to willingly destroy the ring. Because in order to do that, you had to overcome the will of Sauron, who is essentially a god. It was the acts of kindness from the hobbits and others along with fate that destroyed the ring. The hobbits (including Frodo) were what made it possible. In reality, many had a role in destroying the ring. Even Gollum had a role in a strange way. The theme of the Lord of the Rings is good deeds, not great power, is what ultimately stops evil.
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Happy new Year everyone! Let's ringing in the new year with the last movie of one of the best trilogies of all time. Wishing you and all your loved ones a great year ahead!
Also on a side note, I totally get why people say to watch the extended editions. However, I think that for a first time viewer, it's nice to watch the theatrical first, and then by the time you see the extended edition, you're able to appreciate it more and understand what wasn't in the first version. I think this is the way most of you have experienced it.
Should have watched the EXTENDED edition...
I enjoyed it so much! You can buy the extended edition box sets with extras that show how the movie was made and you learn so much that makes it more magical. Did you know Robert Lee, Saruman, personally KNEW Tolkien
Don't let anyone bully you over the extended edition! You are 100% right, theatrical is much better for a first viewing, and honestly just better overall films.
I totally got your point, we are being kinda selfish actually...
@nearthefarworld Christopher Lee*
Everyone wants a friend like Sam, but nobody says that they want to be like Sam.
Everyone needs to be like Sam.
Hey, don't treat him badly! Sam is my hero since 20 years ago! I do want to be like him, but just I can't cause he's really really great. Integrity, humility, affection, kindness, strength, loyalty and braveness, optimism but never being delusional. He believes in friendship and love. He's able to sacrifice for what it is important for his values, but never being a martyr. And as a frame of all this, he's ironic and light-hearted.
@@GianninnnWell, he may have been a little delusional, thinking he could swim while carrying all those pots and pans.😝
@@robbob5302 you're right. No one is perfect in the end. Even Sam ;)
"There's still some good in this world, Mr. Frodo, and it's worth fighting for," All hail Samwise Gamgee, hero of the Free Peoples of Middle-earth.
I'm watching this video on my TV.
At that part I grabbed my phone, looked up this video, came to the comments section, and here I find that you've already written precisely what I wanted to write!
Thank you, friend.
53:58 'It's a pity Bilbo didn't kill Gollum when he had the chance.' Gandalf replied, 'Pity? It's a pity that stayed Bilbo's hand... Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment, for even the very wise cannot see all ends. My heart tells me that he has some part to play yet, for good or ill, before the end; and when that comes, the pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many" - Gandalf.
'Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some
that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to
deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. I
have not much hope that Gollum can be cured before he dies, but there is a
chance of it. And he is bound up with the fate of the Ring. My heart tells
me that he has some part to play yet, for good or ill, before the end; and
when that comes, the pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many - yours not
least. In any case we did not kill him: he is very old and very wretched.
The Wood-elves have him in prison, but they treat him with such kindness as
they can find in their wise hearts.' -Gandalf
I think you’re being way too hard on Frodo at the end. He had the hardest job of carrying the ring the whole way. Even Gandalf wouldn’t carry the ring because he knew how it changes you. The fact that he made it 99% of the way is amazing. I don’t think anyone could’ve done better.
No one could do better. Literally. The power of the ring prevented people from willingly destroying it. Gandalf knew this. He knew a confrontation and accidental drop would be the only way. He was hopeful but still willing to sacrifice the hobbits. The movies should’ve made this clearer.
Galadriel too....she basically continued what Gandalf was saying about the end result of someone, certainly those as powerful as them, taking the Ring.
The ring is such a heavy burden that you can see the necklace scars around his neck
@@zimvader25sacrifice the Hobbits lmao. He was sad af when frodo volunteered to take it
Placing the ring in an envelope and handling it that way seemed to be no problem for Gandalf - so it's best to just take the story as Tolkien wrote it and deal with that.
"Oh no, even Sam is getting tainted with it!" that's after having in for an hour or two max, compared to Frodo carrying it for roughly eleven months at that time.
Samr deserves all the praise he gets, but Frodo deserves none of the flak he receives.
The only Hobbit more 'spoiled' than Frodo was Pippen. They even had a professional gardener.
@terrylandess6072 lmao and yet he was still best for the job.
What exactly is your point?
@@spencergrady4575 He was just who Eru picked and even then he was picked because Bilbo was picked when Eru directed Gollum to lose the ring for Bilbo to find in Goblin Town. He wasn't anything special and that was the whole point of why he is a hero. Any number of hobbits could have endured the same as Frodo since they do not usually care for greed and are hard to corrupt. Frodo's journey was just to carry the ring, never to destroy it. Tolkien himself states in letters that Eru pushed the dancing Gollum into mount doom where as it was written in the text that Gollum slips and falls.
You're confusing playing Frodo's significance with speciality.
@garethlawton5278 not confusing anything; people love to put Frodo down in order to elevate Sam. He is the one who made the journey and got the Ring as far as anyone ever could have before it became impossible. He made the journey no one else did.
To diminish his accomplishment simply because he was "meant" to do something is to diminish the entire journey and story. Sauruman, Radaghast, and the two Blue wizards were also "meant" to accomplish their task, yet only one out of five did. Because he was meant to should we cease glorifying Gandalf? After all he only did his job 🤷♂️
Frodo carried the Ring to Rivendell out of sheer will, and offered to carry it further by choice. By your logic, Frodo could have done exactly what Sam did FOR Sam had he been the one to carry the ring. Should we not celebrate Sam anymore?
No one in Middle Earth would have been able to let go of the ring, there at the height of it's power (the Ring grows more powerful the closer to Mt. Doom it gets). Frodo's choice to spare Smeagol and trust him as a guide was the reason the Ring was destroyed. Even Sam, as good a person as he is, would have failed if their roles were reversed. Sam would have killed Smeagol and the Ring would have survived. Frodo's pity and desire to save Smeagol saved Middle Earth.
The influence of the ring is impossible to resist. Frodo was the only one who could have endured it for so long, and even he could not destroy it in the end. Not because Frodo was weak, quite the opposite: he was the strongest, but even his strength was not enough.
The point of this matter is that no one could have destroyed the ring, not Gandalf, not Aragorn, not Galadriel, not Sam. All will eventually succumb to it. And only Frodo's mercy for Gollum have caused it to end this way.
If you have Forodo for messing up, then you may as well hate all other characters, because they would have failed much sooner.
It's not Frodo messing up, it's the ring messing up Frodo
I don't think she gets it, perhaps too young
In Sammath Naur, in the heart of Sauron’s realm and where it was made, it would have been impossible to willingly destroy the ring. There was never a plan for that moment. Short of pushing Frodo in an accident was the only way the ring would have gone to the fire.
She gets it if you watch the ending of the video
The way the ring is destroyed in the end is all about how evil is self destructive. The draw of power corrupts, but in the end it is two fighting over that power that leads to its destruction.
@@Valecan In the movie, yes. In the book, while Frodo also claimed the ring as his own, Gollum did a bit too much dancing around and a bit too little watching where he was putting his feet.
Frodo never fully healed from his wounds, which means he could never stay happy in Middle-Earth. He, Gandalf, Bilbo, and the rest are going to the undying lands (Elf heaven essentially), where mortal beings usually aren't allowed. An exception is made for Frodo and Bilbo because they were ring bearers. In the appendices we learn that Sam becomes mayor of the Shire and lives a long and happy life. After his wife dies, he also sails west to the undying lands because he was briefly a ring bearer. So Frodo and Sam do meet again. Merry and Pippin spend their days with Aragorn in Gondor, and when they die they are buried next to Aragorn's grave. Legolas and Gimli remain friends, and their friendship heals the rift between Dwarf and Elf. When they reach their end, they also sail to the undying lands together. It's a massive honor for Gimli, being a dwarf, and never a ring bearer. Once they leave, the fellowship is gone from Middle Earth forever.
You have not understood how it was hard for Frodo to carry the ring the all way. He was the only one who could have done it
The Hobbit feet were prosthetics (not CGI).
Smeagol was already had a dark heart. That's why the Ring was able to take him over so quickly.
No mortal could willingly destroy the ring. Especially in the heart of its power where it was forged. Gandalf actually knew this. He just trusted that if Frodo could get it there, fate would handle the rest.
And mortal in the broadest sense here. Gandalf, Galadriel, and the rest of the elves would have all been corrupted. Anyone sentient and living in Middle Earth except for Tom Bombadil who cant travel to mount doom.
@@TAOSCIENCE - And Tolkien said that Bombadil was his own avatar in these stories. He was a dispassionate and neutral storyteller who chronicled the histories of the world, from it's beginnings until it's very end. He was, for all intents and purposes, JRR Tolkien himself
"Pippin finally did something."
Treebeard: am i a joke to you?
Middle Earth lore states the corruption of the ONE Ring grows stronger the closer to Mount Doom is gets. No single person in Middle Earth can let go of the ring when holding it at Ground Zero.
The Lord of the Rings trilogy of films is truly iconic!
The ending of the book is a bit different, but the meaning is the same. Tolkien's idea is that a human being (in this case, a Hobbit) can only go so far, no matter how strong-willed they are. In the end, divine providence will act in a very complex way. If you think about it, even when Bilbo spared Gollum, it was one of the necessary factors to save the world. Among other things.
The extended edition gives more scenes than the theatrical version. Yes, is a bit longer but is worth it. Check out those when you want to watch the movies again. Great reaction!
But you would not have that reaction at 42:38, The "we fight" and the scene boarding the ships, not add anything. but the surprsie when they show up again (after 1h in the movie) is great, as you can see. for first time watching.
"a bit"
@@klofat The only important scene from the ROTK extended was Saruman's fate. Other than that to me everything else could be done away with even Eowyn's dream about the wave that was originally a Faramir dream in the book. Having the anticipation build up of rather or not Aragorn and CO showing up with the undead is better than seeing them join and finding out they boarded the ship and were on their way.
15:10 That city was Osgiliath, a great river port and early capital of Gondor. Around 1,500 years before the time of these films it started falling into ruin under famine and civil war. The capital was moved to Minas Tirith. Osgiliath slowly depopulated and became derelict, more a symbolic relic than a functional city.
Frodo didn't mess up. The ring had a fail safe. No being in existence could have thrown it in the fire. Gandalf gambled on it somehow accidentally falling into the fire. Frodo was amazing.
tom bombadil says hello
@@flerbusTom couldn't throw it in either, because he wouldn't be able to force himself to care enough to take the ring to Mordor in the first place.
@@rightmunted7538 the eagles could have carried him
@@flerbus хоть орлы и нейтрализовали назгулов в битве у Черных врат, но какого-то сильного урона крылатым тварям они не нанесли. Поэтому просто так Том Бомбадил бы не попал в Мордор на орлах. Скорее всего он даже не мог бы пройти дальше определенного растояния от своего леса.
@@flerbus Tom has no power outside his country. He is a spirit of a place
No one, not elves, dwarves, men, or hobbits, was capable of destroying the One Ring...especially after carrying the Ring for a year :)
It isn't stated in the films for whatever reason, but according to Tolkien, the One Ring has a failsafe Sauron embedded into it when he created it. The ring is at it's most seductive and corrupting when it's being held above the Sea of Fire in the location where Sauron forged it. Once the ring is held out over the lava from the stone terrace, it's actually physically impossible for anyone to toss it in. The only way it could ever possibly be destroyed is the way it happened here- by having two people so enthralled by it that they try to destroy the other to take it for themselves.
More succinctly, by accident. In the book there was no struggle, Gollum just slipped
You’re wasting your breath talking about books with her
@@nathanbean8763 Are you sure? Because I do not recall that being the source of his demise. I'm not disputing you. I'm just asking for clarity. Perhaps it's a detail I glosed over while reading it, and then the subsequent images of how Gollum died in the film overtook it in my mind as the way it happened in the canon
Book experts, please correct me if I'm wrong. Osgiliath used to be the capitol of Gondor. I believe it was positioned there to guard the narrowest part of the river Anduin. Also, the dead city Minas Morgol used to be part of Gondor and was a sister city to Minas Tirith and was previously called Minas Anor.
Minas Morgyl = Minas Ithil
Minas Tirith = Minas Anor
Otherwise everything is correct 😊
Thanks!
"My friends! You bow to no one!" will ALWAYS kill me!!
You can see Frodos guilt. He doesn't see himself as worthy. He knows he didn't complete the task. He knows he failed and it was circumstance which saved the world
seeing the charge of the rohirrim at the theaters brought tears
In the theater, you could FEEL that clash when the horsemen rode into the orc frontlines. I still remember how that felt every time I see it, even in a RUclips video.
Don't wish to have a friend like Sam. Be someone else's Sam.
And in the volcano, the compulsion of the Ring is absolutely overwhelming, nobody alive would have the willpower to drop the Ring, not Gandalf, not Aragorn, nobody.
Don't be so hard on frodo. He carried evil encarnate, for hundreds of miles and over years. The ring corrupts the will, it's why he can't put it down. Noone can.
In the book, I don't think he used it for the 17 years he had it (before he left on the journey). According to some research, the journey of him carrying the ring took 26 weeks. So, he didn't technically carry it for years.
@tbessie had it, then. My point is sam held it for 6 hours and he was allowed to see valinor because evil marred his soul. Imagine poor frodos
@@erikwalker9445 Got it
In the books Frodo and Gollum don't fight over the ring after Gollum bites it off his fingers. The film chose to add the bit of extra drama between Frodo and Gollum. In the book, Gollum is so happy when he gets the ring back he's jumping up and down with joy and slips and falls into Mt. Doom - basically the ring is destroyed by accident.
No, by breaking his oath the ring killed him
@@Shmulykas Gollum swore on the Precious.
In a series of movies with amazing lines, my favorite is still, "Don't go where I can't follow." So heartfelt!
1:03:45 - Smeagol was a different kind (of three) of hobbit, a "Stoors", the most related to humans, and so he was the more prone to be controlled by the ring. Frodo was a "Fallowhide" and Sam was an "Harfoot". Also, Smeagol was raised in a very wealthy family and his upbringing was very different from ordinary hobbits who prefer to have fun all day long.
Good info, but the Bagginses, Tooks, and Brandybucks were all rich families as well. The biggest difference is that Smeagol was a nasty piece of work even before finding the ring.
"My old Gaffer" is "My old boss". His father owns the business, Sam is his assistant, and junior.
And for a brief moment, four young hobbits became the tallest creatures in Middle-Earth.
To us he's Gimli, to the minions of Mordor he's Grimli.
Part of what you are missing with Denethor (Boromir and Faramir's father) is that he was heavily influenced by Sauron through another Palentir (crystal ball).
Some key points about Denethor and the Palantir:
1. Misguided Confidence - Denethor believed he could use the Palantir to gauge Sauron's strength without being influenced, but Sauron cleverly manipulated the visions he saw.
2. Deceptive Visions - Sauron showed Denethor the Black Fleet approaching Gondor, but did not reveal that it was actually Aragorn's forces coming to their aid, leading Denethor to believe his doom was certain.
3. Impact on his Psyche - The visions of overwhelming darkness and impending defeat from the Palantir greatly impacted Denethor's mental state, accelerating his decline and fueling his despair.
❤ Denethor = done dirty: He was way more noble & mighty in the books. contended wills with Sauron for decades nonstop & even now was never broken nor could Sauron alter what Denethor would see in the palantir even then he couldn’t control what Denethor had control of which was how he CHOSE to INTERPRET the visions given to him. Using it all to Gondor’s advantage! ❤ he also lit the beacons and got the women & children far away from the city longer ahead of time.
So the movie butchered him as well as faramir but they didn’t butcher Faramir as badly thankfully. He could have been shown to give Pippen his newest order to light the beacons so then it wouldn’t change the scene much at all as presented! The story here is Faramir’s birth ended up killing his mother Finduilas(named after an elvish princess from the era of Children Of Hùrin was set in);she was a Numenorean woman of the Faithful which her ancestors survived the Cataclysm of Númenor by the way!
He was hurt deeply by her death and ontop of that Faramir had the likeness both in temperament as well as his appearance/bearing so he was reminded of his wife over & over again by Faramir who was just like her, and all it took was a simple look or what-have-you to drive the knife in deeper into his heart about his wife.
But also Aragorn when he went by the name gifted to him as Thorongil Denethor’s father basically overshadowing him from his own father so he is as psychology goes: treated Boromir the same way his father treated Aragorn/Thorongil. Note that Boromir and Faramir are half Númenorean which is a big thing as far as the legendarium goes! And it’s something to note that he treated Boromir like his father treated the clandestine Aragorn as Thorongil.
Denethor actually did many things the movie shows him not doing or neglecting. He was VERY competent and mighty in many craft and (even a lore-master to a degree). He had quite alot of mental and “magical” might which is why he could contend with Sauron too without being harmed in there process in any way!
Yeah I don't think it added to the movie to make Denethor into some kind of a cartoon villain.
1:04:46 "Everything happening for a reason" and Frodo not having the strength to destroy the ring are incredibly intertwined concepts in the wider legendarium.
Tolkien himself stated that no creature would've been able to willingly through the ring into the fire; and he strongly implied that Gollum's fall was at least comically encouraged by Eru Iluvatar aka God in his universe.
31:35 Many overlook the impact and importance of Pippen until this moment. Obviously the books give a lot more detail and information regarding Sam, Meri and Pippen assisting Frodo. When Pippen mentions "of course I know a Baggins, Frodo Baggins" Strider had confirmation he was the correct Hobbit. If Pippen had not left a sign for Strider to follow. If he had not woken the Belrog, Gandalf the White would not have existed. If Pippen didn't convince Treebeard to turn around and go to war against Saruman. It was also Pippen's curiosity that made him look into the Palentir and acquire information about where Sauron would strike. He lit the Beacon to inform Rohan (the book is different). He saved Faramir and Gandalf from possible death. Not to mention Meri and Pippen distracting the Orcs so Frodo could escape in "The Fellowship" and the first to follow Aragon into the final battle
Yeah she didn't pay any attention to the movies 😂
@yotsu8495 to be honest, I thought she was was more observant than most. Just highlighting Pippen "fool of a Took" moments that were pure luck or genuine acts of bravery (although he didn't save Faramir in the books
The distance Frodo and Sam walk from the Shire to Mt. Doom is equal to walking from Omaha, Nebraska to Jacksonville, Florida.
That city, Osgiliath ("Citadel of Many Stars"), is the deserted ancestral capital of Gondor. It was guarded by Minas Arnor (Tower of Sun) and Minas Ithil (Tower of Moon). In the past, the armies of Mordor captured Minas Ithil, and thus it became Minas Morgul (Tower of Dark Sorcery). Osgilliath fell into ruin after a plague devasted Gondor and led to a civil war and in the last centuries following the War of the Ring, Minas Arnor became Minas Tirith (Tower of Guard/Vigilance), and the declining Gondor's new capital, while Osgilliath is just an army outpost to guard the river passage and the first line of defense against Mordor now.
Just a small correction - Minas ANOR.
For 14:21
I'll write about the real powers of the Nazguls. friends, the Nazguls are not just beings that fight with swords and their mounts. One of their weapons is their screams. These screams are not normal screams. They are magical screams. It is a weapon that creates fear, terror and panic in the hearts of even the bravest soldiers who are exposed to this scream. When heard from a certain distance, it can paralyze, knock out and even kill with its black curse. In other words, people do not cover their ears just because it makes a high-pitched sound. The soldiers lay down their weapons and fall to the ground in fear. They fall asleep and faint, or even die. These are not such poor humans, they are brave Gondor soldiers. Their second weapon is that they are surrounded by a cursed and black magic Aura known as Black Breath or Faul Breath. So, for example, there is a black magic aura around them with a diameter of 4-5 meters. .. Even if a Nazgul never touches you, staying within 4-5 meters of them for a certain period of time means that you will be poisoned by this black curse, fall down and die, and fall into dark nightmares and not be able to wake up. Think of it like a radioactive substance. If you are exposed to it at a certain distance for a certain period of time, it will cause painly death. You die in it after a while. These weapons are called Black Breath/ Faul Breath. Now, do you understand why Eowyn and Pippin remained in a coma state in the hospital after killing the Witch King, but Aragorn barely saved them? :D
I named my car "Samwise" because i need someone on my side to carry me where i need to go!
Do you have a Tesla?
Frodo did what any mortal being would have done with the ring; as @satinbarbi stated. Sauron was so confident that the ring would never allow itself to be destroyed that the idea of it actually being destroyed was unthinkable. He was so confident in the corruptive influence of the the ring that even the idea of somebody wanting to make the attempt at the journey was to him a non-issue, sure that they would keep it for themselves. So great in fact is Sauron's hubris that he is convinced that the ring had to be in Gondor brought by Mary and is surely now in Aragorn's possession because what else could it be other than an assurance of power that would make Aragorn mount a frontal assault when outnumbered at least 10:1. And just as Gollum was the final instrument of the ring's destruction Sauron himself planted the seeds of its' destruction.
The little girl who runs up to Sam at the end is Sean Astins' (Sams) daughter. Also, after having many many children and being elected and reelected mayor of the Shire many times, Sam eventually gets to sail into the West following Frodo. Whether Frodo was still alive after all this years is never written by Tolkien. But it's nice to think they get to see each other again.
“This task was appointed to you, Frodo Baggins. If you can't do it, no one will”
Two fun behind-the-scnes facts. The arm we see holding Sting as Sam arrives to save Frodo is actually director Peter Jackson's armed, filmed in his flat in London by (reportedly) Andy "Smeagol" Serkis. And the scene where the Witch King tells Gothmog (disfigured Orc) to send in the whole army is basically one guy talking to himself, as both characters were played by the same actor.
Aragorn and Arwen had three children; a son named Eldarion, and two unnamed daughters. As to what percentage of which race the children would have, that gets complicated. Elrond is also known as the half-Elven, as both of his parents were also half-elven. Elrond chose to be considered one of the Elves, hence his long life, and married Celebrian, the daughter of Galadriel and Celeborn. Technically this makes makes Arwen full elven, but as we saw she was granted the same choice as her father as to which race to be counted. Aragorns lineage makes things even more complicated, as his ancestor was Elros, Elrond's brother, who chose to be counted among the race of Men. He was the first king of Numenor, and lived to be five hundred years old. This was typical among the Numenoreans, later to be known as the Dunedain, though that number began to decrease. This led to Sauron becoming, if you'll excuse the potical reference, Elon Musk to the last King of Numenor, who was very trump-like in blaming others for the problems of his kingdom. He attacked Valinor, causing Eru, the God-being who oversees everything, to change the shape of the world, sparing only those among the Numenoreans who remained faithful to the old ways of their people.All of this to say the blood of the Dunedain began as half elven, but became much mingled with other races of men over the thousands of years since the fall of Numenor.
"I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you."
I can't help but start chanting "Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!" whenever I see this scene.
@9:49 Elrond is half-men-half-elf (He was known as Elrond Half-Enven, actually). The union between Elf and Men only happened twice before Arwen and Aragorn.
I don't know if it's in the books or not but I keep seeing people saying that no one could willing destroy the ring in the heart of Mount Doom, where it's power was the strongest. Remember in Fellowship that Gandalf said that he felt that Gollum still had a part to play. One of the those parts was fighting Frodo for the ring to bring about it's destruction in Mount Doom.
42:42 I've seen this movie 100 times I never realized Gimli says "may the best DWARF wins" 🤣
Thank you for finishing the series. I waited a long time for it. I always enjoy you reactions.
I never understand the hate with Frodo at the end. The movie shows you over and over again how this Ring is beyond ANYONE. Frodo gets all the way to the end before it corrupts him "completely," or just to the level Gollum wanted it, and it's still not enough for the casual movie goer. People forget the Ring's track record of dooming its owners. They forget who made it. They forget how wearing/carrying the Ring and being around it are totally different. They forget how both Gandalf and Galadriel were afraid to even touch it. They forget every decent thing Frodo did or said even up to Mt Doom itself. It just goes to show how little our threshold is for people who show weakness or fall short. The natural distaste we have for weakness is a very animal trait we don't think we have because on paper we agree it's bad, but nature is telling us....eliminate the weak. And it leaks through in the most innocent places, like in our appraisal of even fictional characters. Ew, Frodo struggles....push him in too.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you.
Not sure that it's a 'nature' thing, more of egocentrism. "Failure? That person is of no use to me, I dislike them." rather than empathizing with their struggle and appreciating the accomplishments despite this.
Merry's blow to the Witch King was much more significant than explained in the movie. The sword he carried was given to him by Aragorn on Weathertop according to the movie but in the original story it was gained from The Barrow Downs, a part of the adventure not covered in the movie. The sword was enchanted to fight wraiths, the undead, and it was this enchantment that allowed it to mortally wound the Witch King. When Merry struck the Witch King with that particular sword he cut the threads of the enchantment which made him invulnerable to mortals allowing Eowyn to deal a killing blow. She would have surely died without Merry being with her... or something like that, it's been decades since I last read the books.
Always watch EXTENDED EDITIONS. This one make no sens sometimes
No. First time watching I think the theatrical version is better. And you you something to enjoy for rewatching.
It's easier to appreciate the EE by watching the TE first, especially for newbies like me :)
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57:13 Some dude in the back of that crowd is like, "Finally! I can see what the hell is going o...we're supposed to be bowing now. Sorry."
If you feel disappointed by Frodo, then I feel disappointed in you for missing the entire premise of this trilogy around how that ring works.
Regarding Aragorn and Arwen having children, Elrond (Arwen's father) is known as "Half-Elven", because half his ancestors were human and half elvish. Aragorn's ancestor about 40 generations back was Elrond's brother, so there's a tiny bit of elf in him too. That's what makes the Dunedain so long lived.
"Brave Horses" oh yes indeed! The Rohirrem love their horses as much as their kin, and that usually means that such horses will fearlessly fight for their riders. After the Hobbits the riders of Rohan are my favorite people in Middle Earth.
The little girl that runs to Sam at the end is Sean Astin's Daughter (She graduated from college in 2023)! The baby held by Rosie is that actresses' baby!
Never in my life seen someone be this ridiculously hard on Frodo. Like it’s actually insane lol
ah.....the theatrical version. i forgot this existed
In the books, it's explained that Denethor was secretly using the palantir of Minas Tirith (one of the same 'seeing stones' that Pippin picked up at Isengard and looked into) to try to see what was going on in Middle-earth.
However, like Saruman's palantir, Denethor's palantir was already under the influence of Sauron, who manipulated it so that Denethor could only see evidence that the people of Gondor had no hope of winning (hence Denethor's despair).
I can still remember the 90's and early 2000's where I grew up, and Sam's attitude towards friendship didn't seem so odd back then and there... It felt more like what we would have expected, what we would happily have done for each other. Sam was simply seen as a true friend, much like what we at least seemed to think we all had in each other.
Today... It seems nothing like that. Friendship today seems so bloody cheap, sometimes outright worthless...
How dare you make people wait nearly four months to finish this trilogy, and not even the extended editions.
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Yeah by her reaction you can see she didn't pay much attention to the films nor did she really liked them, just did it for the easy money
@@yotsu8495 she’ll be added to the compilation channels create where the videos themselves do the roasting of said people who get caught faking first time reaction etc etc. same as people promoting ROP. Essentially they roast themselves with their weird behaviour.
Sam hesitates ONLY because his friend was so tortured. His heart was so pure, and he only had the ring for less than a day, he was not affected by it's power yet. The book states this, and even Sean Astin enforces that story line.
Glad to see you came around about Frodo afterwards! And I wish you’d seen the extended editions. Lots more context (including when Eowyn meets Faramir in this movie).
Please watch extended editions for Hobbit reactions!
It's a great twist that even Frodo is corrupted in the end, but what ultimately saves the day is Gollum's greed and Sam's unswerving loyalty... as if to say that even people's vices can have a role to play in making an ultimately happy ending, and nobody can do it all alone.
Every channel moderator echoing Gandalf: "Kill the trolls!"
The ruined city that is attacked near the beginning is Osgiliath, the old capital of Gondor. It was abandoned over 500 years ago, becoming little more than a military outpost since then. It's still strategically important because it has bridges across the river Anduin.
Good reaction and glad you liked the series but you were wayyy too harsh on Frodo. Just think about his resisting the rings coercing his mind and his physical stamina (evidenced by the ring and chain being so heavy it leaves marks on his neck) the entire time, and he's resisting but getting weaker. Then at the end the ring puts it's full might against Frodo's weakened will. It was only at the end against the rings full might that he finally wavers.
Yeah you are right
27:01 the dog staring straight into the camera hahaha
LMAO he wants you to listen to me 🤣🤣🤣
21:32 Of course Frodo knows Sam doesnt betray to him but Frodo thought that ring effected to him..Because The ring can effect anybody (even powerful Gandalf).. And of course the ring make him(Frodo) think like that..
Gollum loosing it that fast in the presence of the ring is a thing in the movie to make the intro easier to digest. He was a trickster for a while before he was banished and then several hundred years of getting corrupted by the ring alone.
Sauron not only let one of the seeing stones go to Sauromon, but also, Lord Denethor of Gondor had one as well. Sauron drove him mad through it. That is why he becomes more and more disturbed.
After the battle of Gondor, and the black gate, those who are injured are taken to Gondor's houses of healing. It looks like Rivendell but they are still in the white city.
Although it was due to sickness and not excessive cruelty, but the LOTR trilogy has the distinction of having more animals die during filming than any other film. Over 140 horses died during the filming.
In the books, Eowyn kills the ugly Orc, but Aragorn kills the witch king in the scene at the black gate, instead of the cave troll he battles in the movie.
The ring was designed to overturn anybody's thoughts of destroying it upon the threshold of the mountain of fire. Isildur met this force when he had the opportunity and so would have Elron if he would've had it in his hands instead. And then Frodo met this ring's force where it basically got destroyed by chance of being fumbled around during a struggle. So, by way of struggle or accident fall into the fire was the only way it could be destroyed.
It’s a bit disappointing you thought Frodo was a bit disappointing.
Great react series though, glad you got to enjoy the best movie trilogy ❤
I don’t think she has the brainpower to think about as more than a super hero movie, which is why she thinks Frodo is a loser. I don’t she even knows it’s based on books.
Snaxan be like "frodo scored 150 points in a game of basketball, but missed the last shot, he sucks even though the team still won"
it's been so long since i saw the non extended edition i forgot how weird the cutting of Saruman's final scene is in the beginning.
Treebeard: "There's a WIZARD to manage here."
Gandalf: "Huh? No, Saruman's no threat anymore, forget him. We don't need to deal w him."
Gandalf: "Oh huh, weird, here's this Palantir just sitting in the water. This was kept in Saruman's tower and is a precious thing, but here it just randomly is w no explanation, in the water next to me. Better take it."
I noticed something........ Literally every single person that comes across a hobbit, Absolutely adores them almost immediately. Gandalf has been fond of them forever. The elves all enjoy them as well. Elrond and Bilbo are good friends. But also look at king Theoden. He was genuinely pleased to have Merry be his Squire. And even though we are meant to hate him.....even Denathor was VERY kind to Pippin.....until he went crazy.
In the end, Frodo could not bring himself to drop the Ring into the lava pit of Orodruin/Mount Doom, because it could somehow sense that it would be unmade and put forward all of it's malign coercive power to save itself. Perhaps it could even absorb additional energy from the infernal power of the volcano itself where it was originally crafted by Sauron. Even though he was the Ring bearer, Frodo was still a mortal, wrestling against the stored diabolical power of Sauron, a fallen Ainur, an originally angelic being brought into existence by the thought of Eru, the One,
Fun Fact- Pippin was so inspired by Faramir's honor & humility, that he named his only son "Faramir Took", who went on to marry Samwise's daughter, Goldilocks. This ties back to what Bilbo says at the beginning of the story... "there's always been a Baggins in Bag End... & there always will be."
The Tooks are a branch of the Baggins family tree, & when Frodo gives Sam his home, he is essentially saying that he IS a Baggins. The fact that his daughter married a Took just means that his descendants will not just be "honorary Baggins", for all intents & purposes they will be Bagginses by blood, as well
Now it's time to watch the extended editions. Though you won't need to make videos of them.
31:15 "Kill the trolls!" The rallying cry of every content creator on the internet.
The power of the Ring was at its most ultimate when Frodo was holding it over the fire. It's basically impossible to overcome the Ring's influence for self-preservation at that point.
It could only be destroyed by selfishness, by its own importance. That's why Gollum was the one finally take it over the edge, utterly consumed by its influence and willing to die for it,
especially as he had no expectation of actually doing so.
It's actually pretty genius how the ring's story is wrapped up. Sauron would've never assumed that anyone would choose to destroy the ring, because it's an item of immense power and he views the world in terms of power, firstly. He also would've never believed that anyone could have the strength to destroy it, and *he would've been right*. Gollum took an oath to serve Frodo, and swore this oath on the ring itself. At the end, gollum broke his oath and the ring did indeed punish him for it. And so, the ring created the means of its own destruction
The dog's face from 43:00 😂
My favorite scenes are when they focus on the ring. I have an idea why, it's universally creepy in a way an inanimate object has a will of it's own and actively trying to destroy you. Like a posessed doll or something
Gandalf believed in Gollum's role so much that he brought an extra eagle for him if needed
No actual evidence for that.
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Great reactions to 3 of the greatest films ever...imo. I do hope you react to the Hobbit as its a great story as well. I dont know if you're a book lover or not but both of these tales are better in book form, there is just to much story to be all included in a film. If you thought these were hella long i can only imagine what length a film would need to be to tell these tales in the detail of the books. Always love seeing your beautiful smiling face and im lovin the GoT reaction....take care ❤
No being is capable of willingly destroying the ring. Sauron knew this but never expected it to be destroyed by two people fighting over their total dependance of it.
Sam was the classic hero, he remained true to his mission and friend then got his happy ever after ending.
Smeagol was also an unwitting hero, the ring never would have been destroyed if not for him being there at that moment. Gandalf knew he had some part to play and hoped he would live to tell the tale, notice how he brought 3 eagles to Mount Doom.
But Frodo was by far the greatest hero in the story, no one would have been able to carry it as far as him before becoming corrupted by it and the wounds he suffered ultimately cost him his life.
He is one of the heroes.
FYI- Denethor (the Steward of Gondor) was in possession of one of the Palintir "Seeing Stones" . While trying to spy on Sauron with it, Sauron used his power to cause Denethor to be corrupted with jealousy and despair.
Denethor = done dirty: He was way more noble & mighty in the books. contended wills with Sauron for decades nonstop & even now was never broken nor could Sauron alter what Denethor would see in the palantir even then he couldn’t control what Denethor had control of which was how he CHOSE to INTERPRET the visions given to him. Using it all to Gondor’s advantage! ❤ he also lit the beacons and got the women & children far away from the city longer ahead of time.
So the movie butchered him as well as faramir but they didn’t butcher Faramir as badly thankfully. He could have been shown to give Pippen his newest order to light the beacons so then it wouldn’t change the scene much at all as presented! The story here is Faramir’s birth ended up killing his mother Finduilas(named after an elvish princess from the era of Children Of Hùrin was set in);she was a Numenorean woman of the Faithful which her ancestors survived the Cataclysm of Númenor by the way!
He was hurt deeply by her death and ontop of that Faramir had the likeness both in temperament as well as his appearance/bearing so he was reminded of his wife over & over again by Faramir who was just like her, and all it took was a simple look or what-have-you to drive the knife in deeper into his heart about his wife.
But also Aragorn when he went by the name gifted to him as Thorongil Denethor’s father basically overshadowing him from his own father so he is as psychology goes: treated Boromir the same way his father treated Aragorn/Thorongil. Note that Boromir and Faramir are half Númenorean which is a big thing as far as the legendarium goes! And it’s something to note that he treated Boromir like his father treated the clandestine Aragorn as Thorongil.
Denethor actually did many things the movie shows him not doing or neglecting. He was VERY competent and mighty in many craft and (even a lore-master to a degree). He had quite alot of mental and “magical” might which is why he could contend with Sauron too without being harmed in there process in any way!
The hobbit feet were prosthetic. It's a latex "shoe" that they apply with makeup to blend it in
Love the background, looks like a section of minas morgul.
It was the ring that controlled Frodo in that last moment. I'm glad you are going to watch The Hobbit (make sure you watch the exytended version too) as there is a lot of backstory to TLOTR that isn't in the cinematic version including the origins of the sword, the mithral armour, how Bilbo got the ring etc. also a lot of foreshadowing for TLOTR.
Yay! Finally the ending! Loved these movies and reactions! Thanks for sharing! Looking forward to the Hobbit ones as well.
I think I read somewhere that the actors playing hobbits actually wore kind of 'feet shaped' shoes that were specially made to fit each one of them.
Faramir's father hated him because Faramir's mother died during childbirth, and he held Faramir responsible for it. That's why Boromir was always his favourite.
Yeah you completely didn't understand the ring and it's power
It’s really sad. The entire movie actually doesn’t make sense without understanding the absolute power of the ring on all beings, so it’s not clear what she got out of it other than a superhero movie
When Deagol found the ring it had been at the bottom of a river to 2500 years. Then, when Smeagol arrived, the ring "saw" that, of the pair, Smeagol was the more dominant. and easily influenced... so it exerted its influence as strongly as it was able to, to seize Smeagol, but Smeagol killing Deagol had consequences that the ring could not foresee or control...... and Smeagol's family drove him out. (Deagol was his Cousin and best friend...) Thus the ring ended up being held underground for 500 more years.... Giving it time to corrupt Smeagol completely. But, Smeagol would have been content to stay there, and the ring had dimly perceived Sauron's return and growing power (probably from Smeagol eavesdropping on Orcs and Goblins in the tunnels.)
Tolkien himself said and i quote " it was literally impossible for someone to destroy the ring willingly"
If you are itching for more, watch the extended versions. You’ll get more backstories and lore and none of the scenes are throwaways! Enjoyed your reaction.
I can see why you might be dumbfounded with Frodo failing in the end, but any bearer of the Ring would have failed to destroy it. Gandalf says that "clearly the ring had an unwholesome power that set to work on its keeper at once." It immediately sinks its claws into you, poisons you with its influence. Remember that the main power of the One Ring is domination, so it would not let its bearer destroy it. For a Ring of Power "its keeper never abandons it, they all look after themselves" thus again, the One would not let its bearer destroy it.
Elrond was known as the eldest of Aragorn's race because he was half-Elven. Both of Elrond's parents (Eärendil and his wife Elwing whose parents were Dior, the son of Beren and Luthien, and Nimloth who was a kinsman if Galadriel's husband Celeborn) were likewise half-Elven. His Elven forebears were the princess of Gondolin (her name was Idril), the princess of Doriath (her name was Luthien and Arwen resembled her in appearance, but Luthien's mother was a Maia like Gandalf and Saruman are, and her father Thingol was the king of Doriath where the Sindar dwelt who were comparable in might to the Elves who had seen the light of the Two Trees), and Nimloth who was the wife of the half-Elf Dior (the parents of Elrond's mother), Tuor was Idril's husband (the parents of Elrond's father), Beren was Luthien's husband (their son Dior and his elven wife Nimloth were the parents of Elrond's mother Elwing), and both of them were men (of the three houses of the Edain).
Arwen and Aragorn were married for 120 years and lived in "great glory and bliss". They had several children, a son Eldarion and daughters. Arwen could not stomach Aragorn's passing and she said farewell to her children before she left to die alone in the abandoned lands that her grandparents (Galadriel and Celeborn) used to rule over.
So far as the underlying principles of this story are concerned I do not think you or many contemporary people would be open to them. Sure fides (loyalty) might sound fine but there is an aversion that people these days have to it as atomized men and women (who embrace individualism). Loyalty was the glue that held together traditional societies. There is also the idea of inequality, hierarchy, master and servant (like Frodo and Sam), monarchy, aristocracy, bloodlines, regression (a cyclical vision of time as seen in the Hindu doctrines with the Yugas, or in Hesiod with the golden/silver/bronze/heroic/iron ages, and elsewhere) rather than the widely held contemporary belief in progressivism which is basically the so-called course of history that keeps one passive in the face of the current of subversion. We live in an age of conformist, democratic leveling, materialism, the cult of the expert and brain trust, the exaltation of economics, liberalism (here liberty is seen in individualistic, egalitarian, and privatized terms), the bourgeois family (if family is even a thing at all these days as people see their pets as children and the like), etc. So the worlds are quite different (ours versus LotR's which itself is in a process of decline prior to the heroic age ushered in by Aragorn that will reflect the golden age).
Anyone who had the ring for more than a little bit had to leave Middle Earth eventually. In the books, even Sam ends up going later when he's older. Gimli goes there too with Legolas. In fact, I believe there were only 2 hobbits, 1 dwarf, and 1 human ever allowed to go west with the elves
When you were simultaneously frustrated with both Frodo and Denethor, know that both were less frustrating in the book. :)
Ten times less frustrating. Denethor was amazing and never lost to Sauron. Ever. Kept him at bey in more ways than one and mastered the Palantir of which all of them were created by Fëanor so they’re anything but unholy. Meaning they’re holy.
The thing is, there was actually no way to willingly destroy the ring. Because in order to do that, you had to overcome the will of Sauron, who is essentially a god. It was the acts of kindness from the hobbits and others along with fate that destroyed the ring. The hobbits (including Frodo) were what made it possible. In reality, many had a role in destroying the ring. Even Gollum had a role in a strange way. The theme of the Lord of the Rings is good deeds, not great power, is what ultimately stops evil.