People who have lost a family member to a cult, how did it happen?

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  • @foxqueen6214
    @foxqueen6214 9 месяцев назад +87

    That Wicca one breaks my heart, it gives us spiritualists a bad name and just hurts because these people really wanted to help others and he used that against them

    • @Kad3onparad3
      @Kad3onparad3 9 месяцев назад +13

      Exactly. I was disgusted by that cult. It gives wiccans a bad name

    • @AnxietyPossumArt
      @AnxietyPossumArt 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah

    • @pandakicker1
      @pandakicker1 2 месяца назад +1

      I agree and I am not even a Wiccan. I am a Hellenist.

    • @LocalTiredArtist
      @LocalTiredArtist 2 месяца назад

      I’m curious about Wicca(? Is that the right term for it in general? Please correct me if it’s not) but admittedly where I live I’m not sure if I’m able to learn anything about it qwq. I’ve heard about it recently and it sounds interesting, but I know like nothing. I know it like a very random question to ask but I’d like to know more about it (anything really) if you’re willing to tell me

  • @MrEricSir
    @MrEricSir 10 месяцев назад +196

    Lost some family members to JW unfortunately. The "you're either with us or against us" attitude is sickening.

    • @asherikamichaela8425
      @asherikamichaela8425 9 месяцев назад +15

      Most of my family are JWs, unfortunately. My grandmother got them into it long before I was born. I'm actually one of the few who isn't one. Even worse to them, I never believed in the first place, no matter how much they tried to force me.
      It's one of the reasons I'm glad I'm ASD and thus don't think the way most people do. I simply don't have the urge to conform or go on "faith." They didn't like all the stuff I pointed out that just doesn't make any sense, particularly since I was a little kid at the time showing up all these adults and making them stumble and stutter.
      Oh, and there's the fact that their stubborn adherence to their beliefs almost killed me. Twice.

    • @jaredbrown3726
      @jaredbrown3726 9 месяцев назад +11

      Can't remember which country exactly but one of the Scandinavian countries took away their religious exemption

    • @asherikamichaela8425
      @asherikamichaela8425 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@jaredbrown3726 Kudos to them!

    • @gmdking
      @gmdking 9 месяцев назад +2

      Huh. I’m a JW. It’s interesting to see other people that take things way too seriously, and say things like this. I still actively talk with a few friends that aren’t JWs. Usually people I know only cut ties if they start going against their religion, like anyone else would.

    • @gmdking
      @gmdking 9 месяцев назад

      @@jaredbrown3726Norway.

  • @josi4251
    @josi4251 10 месяцев назад +121

    Fear-based religions/sects are a scourge on this planet. I grew up terrified of the cult (clarification: it was a rather extreme offshoot of Pentecostalism) which my grandmother took me to. From age 2 through approximately age 8 or 9, I loved Sunday school. Then they started taking us upstairs to the adult services. People praying, shouting, screaming clapping frantically, some falling to the floor as the spirit of the Lord "moved" them. At age 15, I was moved ... to exit the front door of that place. Never looked back.

  • @nikoknightpuppetproduction369
    @nikoknightpuppetproduction369 10 месяцев назад +239

    One of my best friends from 20 years ago suddenly one day just stopped contacting me and all his other friends. His mother also joined him. They cut ties with everyone, including all their family members, he and his mother ran off to Mexico City and never came back. They join a religious group and still waiting to this day, for Jesus to come back and destroy the earth.

    • @lightmaker5648
      @lightmaker5648 10 месяцев назад

      DESTROY the Earth? What kind of backwards bible are they reading?

    • @FlyTrag
      @FlyTrag 10 месяцев назад +5

      Wow

    • @DarkDragonArtz
      @DarkDragonArtz 10 месяцев назад +5

      Sounds like LDS/Mormon to me :/

    • @nikoknightpuppetproduction369
      @nikoknightpuppetproduction369 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@DarkDragonArtz could be. I was thinking more of JW but you could be right. They are that way as well.

    • @gmdking
      @gmdking 9 месяцев назад +1

      ⁠@@nikoknightpuppetproduction369Lots of religions preach the end. Pretty sure JWs don’t immediately cut contact with non-JWs unless they actively go against their beliefs, like almost anyone with their religious beliefs.

  • @Azulakayes
    @Azulakayes 10 месяцев назад +104

    Cults are really dangerous. A recent one is the Shakahola christian cult in Kenya that was lead by a lunatic evangelist called Paul Mackenzie. Hundreds of bodies are still being retrieved after people starved themselves, including children, to death. A father told a story of how he lost his wife and 5 kids to that church. Another lost his daughter and grandson who left a successful job as a airhostess and went to die there. 😢

    • @metal.gendalf
      @metal.gendalf 10 месяцев назад +19

      It feels like a trap had been closed on these people and they didn't see it coming.

  • @nicolelawrence7722
    @nicolelawrence7722 9 месяцев назад +28

    My aunt was JW for a long time. She got my uncle and his family into it. He got excommunicated because of drugs, the rest of his immediate family left a year later because my cousin got in a bad motorcycle accident and needed a blood transfusion. That aunt didn't speak to that uncle again until 3 years before he died. It took 20 years, and the death of two of their sisters in a 3 month span to get them in the same room again.
    She's not a JW anymore and living her best life.

    • @CJG1419
      @CJG1419 5 месяцев назад +2

      My Aunt and her husband were JW’s and he died because he needed a blood transfusion but refused. Her one daughter joined their church and she and her husband are the most judgemental, self righteous people you can imagine. They change scripture.

    • @nicolelawrence7722
      @nicolelawrence7722 5 месяцев назад

      @CJG1419 I've been to several JW conventions because my son's father's family are also JWs, and it's exactly as you describe.

  • @hannahshelton393
    @hannahshelton393 10 месяцев назад +109

    It’s sad that most of these cults are considered the church. 😢 As a Christian myself, I want to apologize for all these churches who call themselves “Children of God.” Unfortunately, being a Christian ISN’T about being perfect, following rules, and obeying. It’s about going to a God who loves you and cares for you, and wants a relationship with you. I’m so sorry to the people who had situations in the church, where you felt uncomfortable, unsafe, abused and manipulated. I hope you will be able to meet God in another place, the true place where you can truly see Him, and not the overzealous image of religion. Prayers will be going out to y’all!

    • @mickjackson6596
      @mickjackson6596 10 месяцев назад

      Christianity. The biggest cult of them all, anyone else see the irony here??

    • @BIGGER_RED
      @BIGGER_RED 9 месяцев назад +1

      👏 Well said!!

    • @kristacotney3607
      @kristacotney3607 9 месяцев назад

      I agree wholeheartedly! Many of these churches just use and abuse and lie. And many "Christians" give us a horrible name.

    • @DayleDiamond
      @DayleDiamond 9 месяцев назад +8

      Christianity explicitly says that anybody who thinks they're going to heaven might be wrong. It strongly encourages zealotry. Abraham was willing to kill his own child because of religious obedience to power, and that's seen as a good thing.

    • @Taygon45
      @Taygon45 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@DayleDiamond Cult behavior is in the bible. The story of Abraham is textbook.

  • @wanderingrocknrollwitch9231
    @wanderingrocknrollwitch9231 10 месяцев назад +58

    As a Pagan Witch, the group of Wiccans made my head hurt. That's not a normal or generally condoned practice, and it really looks bad on the Pagan & Witchcraft community. :/

    • @lovelysakurapetalsyt
      @lovelysakurapetalsyt 10 месяцев назад +10

      Absolutely same. I want to get into Wiccanism since my mother did it and it just feels right. You're not supposed to tithe to crap or do things the girl in the story did, you're supposed to be kind to yourself and the world

    • @kimberly_erin
      @kimberly_erin 10 месяцев назад

      Just look into what you are studying, and what you are calling it as well. I thought it was a crock of lies when I heard ppl saying that Wicca was racist… then I looks it up and omg. Explains a lot about the true wiccans I met who were afraid ppl would “judge them” oh yeah I just found out that you weren’t one of the pagans ppl mistakenly calling themselves Wiccan. they were multi gen undercover racists.
      Anyway I’m definitely not against religion, just please please look up the history, origins, and some of the various extremes of a religion so you know the red flags.

    • @wanderingrocknrollwitch9231
      @wanderingrocknrollwitch9231 10 месяцев назад

      I've been practicing for over 20 years and can tell you, most people I am acquainted with practice alone, including myself, and if we do anything in groups it's usually in trusted already established friend groups or established, trustworthy coven situations. Always do your research! And happy witchin'! :D @@lovelysakurapetalsyt

    • @Kad3onparad3
      @Kad3onparad3 9 месяцев назад

      Same :( it makes me really sad

    • @DanaTheInsane
      @DanaTheInsane 9 месяцев назад +9

      The trouble is is the word Wicca doesn’t mean anything anymore it used to mean a specific religion now it’s just sort of a generic term for spirituality and it’s abused like crazy.

  • @philzeo
    @philzeo 10 месяцев назад +36

    My brother joined a cult once. Cults prey on people in vulnerable positions. They're super effective at manipulation because the play on human psychology, hard.

  • @Chaos_God_of_Fate
    @Chaos_God_of_Fate 10 месяцев назад +73

    Sounds a lot to me like what present Day Politics are doing to People. Kinda scary how cultish People are with Politics these Days.

    • @heroslippy6666
      @heroslippy6666 9 месяцев назад +5

      Call it whatever you like, a cult is a cult. Politics is just filling the void of cults and religion.

    • @DayleDiamond
      @DayleDiamond 9 месяцев назад

      Political beliefs do not fit in the BITE model. High control groups do.

    • @Wolfie54545
      @Wolfie54545 9 месяцев назад +1

      Nah, it’s dangerous that people think like that.

  • @Fairiegurl101
    @Fairiegurl101 8 месяцев назад +8

    My mom fell down the Mormon rabbit hole when I was 8/9. My dad had died the year prior and she was drowning her grief in spirituality. She'd been searching for a church family to be a part of before that as well, but none of them had spoken to her. My dad had been part of a local church and that's where my siblings and I went for most of our lives up to that point, but once the missionaries knocked on our door, everything changed.
    She became obsessed with this religion, to the point where calling her a zealot would be an understatement. She spent so much money on tithing and church "investments", it would probably make my stomach turn if I knew the real numbers. Easy 7 figures over roughly 20 years. Most of it at the beginning since she had my dad's inheritance, life insurance, and money from selling my childhood home. Once that ran out, she sent whatever SSI benefits she didn't need to keep a roof over our heads and food in our mouths to the church. Eventually, she did get a job because she thought that sending even more money would eventually mean we'd see monetary returns by way of "blessings".
    I don't know if anyone in the church ever tried to steer her in other directions, but probably not. Even if they did, she wouldn't have listened. She loved to claim that, since we had no living father, God would speak directly to her as the head of our household so everything she did was based on His words and His spirit (the Holy Spirit).
    It was rough living with her and I left as soon as I was 18. Never looked back. She would call me constantly, trying to tell me I was going to hell (the really bad one. In Mormonism there are, like, 3 heavens and a hell, you have to be like a mass murderer or unapologetic sinner to end up in Mormon Hell, since most people usually end up in 2nd or 3rd heaven by being average or above average good people. She said that turning my back on God (read Mormonism) constituted the latter so I was going to hell) I was going to die (either spiritually or literally) and other things to try to scare me or bring me back to her. Thankfully, my boyfriend then husband was there to help keep my head on straight or I might have listened to her eventually.
    I ended up cutting her out of my life entirely back in 2014/15 and didn't speak to her again until late 2021 when all three of my dad's siblings all passed away within 6 months of each other. And that was just to decide who was going to be taking over handling their estates and I made sure to keep the conversations purely business. She hated that. Kept trying to steer the conversation back to reconciliation between the two of us (read -- I give in to her demands without complaint) and I shut that down. Thank god, I had a good therapist during this time or I might have never made it through those phone calls.
    She died this last year right before Christmas and I think it was the best gift she ever gave me.

  • @Chemrmnce1234
    @Chemrmnce1234 10 месяцев назад +84

    Wicca isnt a cult. Paganism isnt a cult. I am a Pagan who practices wicca. but THAT was a cult. We do not do that shit. That was crazy to hear from a pagan perspective.

    • @erraticonteuse
      @erraticonteuse 10 месяцев назад

      Yeah, that sounds like someone heard of the Threefold Law and decided they could use it as the basis of a Ponzi scheme.

    • @Kad3onparad3
      @Kad3onparad3 9 месяцев назад +14

      Yeah. That cult is disgusting. It makes me really sad that people are using Wicca like that.

    • @BrightWulph
      @BrightWulph 9 месяцев назад

      ​@lunaisluckyyyyyy4955 or at the very least using Wicca to disguise their shrex cult fetish, and doing "vague" rituals so they can justify the usage of the name.

    • @vincentstuart9562
      @vincentstuart9562 9 месяцев назад +7

      That one got me good cuz I'm also Pagan and while I don't subscribe to Wicca personally, I know that's not Wicca, that was super insulting if anything, and super creepy

    • @Morna777
      @Morna777 9 месяцев назад +7

      Sadly any belief system can be used to control people. "It's not the creed it's the deed."

  • @MelodyRose96
    @MelodyRose96 9 месяцев назад +12

    I lost my grandmother to Jehova before I was even born. My paternal grandmother has never been around and treats my father particularly like crap. My father went into the hospital for a heart attack when I was young and his mother was in town but didn't even bother to come see him, just other family. My father is going through cancer right now and she still hasn't even tried to contact him. She only really talks to my aunt and grandpa. One of my family members tried to to introduce me to her at a family reunion when I was about 6 or 7 and told me "This is your grandma!" I looked at her, point blank said "No she isn't" and pointed my grandpa's second wife and said "She's my grandma." I haven't spoke to her since and I don't think I ever will.

    • @golden8972
      @golden8972 2 месяца назад

      Pretty much like my maternal grandmother, only Catholic. She died old, sick, and alone. I just shrugged my shoulders when she died.

  • @AbsoluteSicknote
    @AbsoluteSicknote 10 месяцев назад +43

    Here in Britain, the idea of a cult is as foreign to us as good dental hygiene. We have the English premier League instead.

    • @metal.gendalf
      @metal.gendalf 10 месяцев назад +4

      good for you
      ... I guess 😂

    • @rachelthecool2880
      @rachelthecool2880 10 месяцев назад +14

      Nah we have Jehovahs Witnesses too

    • @goodnightmyprince6734
      @goodnightmyprince6734 10 месяцев назад

      Ikr

    • @alexcunningham1647
      @alexcunningham1647 10 месяцев назад +6

      Your cults much like american cults stopped being mainstream both in a media sense and in a social awareness sense essentially america is so big that the level of awareness and the openess of many difrent cults in the way they operate here makes it seem like an american or spiritual nation problem when infact you not only have cults but a "cult" classic horror movie about them (the original wickerman) as I'm not english and not from the U.K I couldn't tell you about cults in the nation but I can assure you they're very real

    • @TwilightNyx12
      @TwilightNyx12 9 месяцев назад +1

      It’s mostly Jehovah’s Witnesses in my area of the UK. They mostly hand out leaflets and knock on doors but I have heard from others that they do similar things with people just checking out the religion like isolating from outsiders from day one.
      The only story I have is that on my day off, I had an old couple ring my doorbell. I open the door and the old lady starts saying about “Have you heard about Jehovah?” when she looks at my T-shirt and pauses.
      Guess who decided to wear a ‘Bendy and the Ink machine’ t-shirt that showed the Ink demon reaching out to the viewer and saying “Come join the Dark puddles”. (I swear I could not make this scenario up).
      To her credit, she carried on with her speech and finished with a ‘Jesus loves me.’ I said “okay thank you” before she and her husband left. I don’t remember him saying anything though.
      They must have told their friends that my house has a demon worshipper as I have not had anymore JW’s knocking on my door.

  • @TheNightWatcher1385
    @TheNightWatcher1385 9 месяцев назад +26

    Not a traditional cult per say, but my aunt got so absorbed in conspiracy theories that it’s now very difficult to have a normal conversation with her.

    • @pandakicker1
      @pandakicker1 2 месяца назад

      That’s a form of a cult, yes. Especially when they self-isolate from people who don’t believe the crap they spew.

  • @TechnicalTechnicolor
    @TechnicalTechnicolor 9 месяцев назад +16

    I haven't spoken to either of my grandparents on my mothers side in years due to how nuts they are. One is a born again the other is a JW.
    I am Pagan. I am also LGBTQIA+. It is.. *Very* stressful.
    Also just to clarify; No I do not engage in whatever the hell that was going on in that story. I use tarot cards and stuff. I still have a life, a job, and friends like any other normal person.
    Just like how there are complete nut cases in some religious circles, please understand that they do not encompass us as a whole and we do not claim those groups, nor their leadership.

    • @tiffanymae4290
      @tiffanymae4290 8 месяцев назад +3

      Well that’s how Christians feel as well

    • @Localcourtjester4hire
      @Localcourtjester4hire 3 месяца назад

      ​@@tiffanymae4290normal chirstians, yes.a I feel bad for them ngl, they're lumped in with the radical and conservative clowns. The whole " God loves all by default, and he is forgiving and benevolent" is a good interpretation of Christianity.

  • @sapphirewingthefurrycritic985
    @sapphirewingthefurrycritic985 10 месяцев назад +15

    Ugh, the post about Jonestown . . . that is just upsetting. I knew that there were family members of those people but its different to hear from an actual family member of the victims.

  • @tessiepinkman
    @tessiepinkman 10 месяцев назад +14

    You made several very great points during this video. Really great commentary! Cults freak me out. It's so easy to get sucked into something, and the techniques they are using have been proven to work over centuries - so it's hard as hell to see it when you're close to it. It's easier for people on the outside to see that it's sketchy, but when you're on the inside it becomes normalized very very fast. Great video!

  • @darthcravus
    @darthcravus 10 месяцев назад +28

    I have a cousin. That married a member of what I consider a cult Jehovah's witness

  • @lovelysakurapetalsyt
    @lovelysakurapetalsyt 10 месяцев назад +19

    I want to say; actual Wiccanism isn't like what that one story is like. It's a traditional religion from Ireland, and revolves around the fair folk, not "spells" to make everything work out. You just try to be a good person to yourself, other, and the fae, but you don't pay stuff. All you do is give tiny offerings to the fae, like some milk or honey
    Yes, you can pray to a goddess for help, but you *yourself* must also put in the work

    • @Kad3onparad3
      @Kad3onparad3 9 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly.

    • @namedrop721
      @namedrop721 8 месяцев назад +1

      Wicca was made up by a bunch of English shmancy blokes in the early 20th century who were tired of importing magic from the Orient and decided on a homebrew. American Wicca is an offshoot of Gardnerian Wicca (English Wicca + some Indian mysticism ideas) and dates to the 1950s.
      Look it up. Ya gotta dig harder if you want Irish paganism.

    • @janeygotaknife
      @janeygotaknife 8 месяцев назад

      Anything can be a cult . Some weirdo wants to take advantage of some lost people any theme they’ll twist to their advantage.

  • @yin-sin
    @yin-sin 10 месяцев назад +9

    The Westburo Baptist Church. Some many former members have said what it’s like and actual Baptist churches don’t see them as actual Baptist. They would “protest” at funerals for LGBTQ+ people and veterans. Though since the “church” is so small (maybe a few hundred members) they aren’t going to last longer. Just look up videos of WBC members speaking at Universities trying to justify their hate towards those they don’t even know.

  • @Taygon45
    @Taygon45 9 месяцев назад +8

    I started laughing out loud when that one story mentioned buying better spells
    Like holy shit. Strong willed my ass. How do you not see that and go "Man. These microtransactions are everywhere"

    • @untitled-gv3qp
      @untitled-gv3qp 9 месяцев назад

      I mean, how do so many Christians still pay tithes and offerings to mega churches run by pastors that have multiple cars and private jets without seeing the connection? They tell you that you need to have faith and make you feel like you're betraying whoever you're praying to if you question their intentions.
      I think the girl in that story was also super sheltered all her life. You can see how much of a scam all of that was because you've at least seen similar things on a smaller scale or heard of it enough to be skeptical. We have the benefit of skepticism and being on the outside looking in. She didn't even have enough previous experience to be wary of a creep starting a s3x cult to steal money and get into everyones pants. I imagine she fell into the cult the same way that other repressed people who go to college fall into drugs and alcoholism. She was finally free so she decided to start being wild by going all in on a cult that made her feel magical.

    • @pandakicker1
      @pandakicker1 2 месяца назад

      As a stubborn mule, I agree. I hate for people to try to control me.

  • @Tzomthekliafafanboy
    @Tzomthekliafafanboy 10 месяцев назад +84

    Honestly cults are really one of the most stupid things to ever exist

    • @Azulakayes
      @Azulakayes 10 месяцев назад

      Their leaders have perfected the art of manipulation. Anyone can be fooled into them, especially when facing a crisis in life. From the outside looking in, you can see they are stupid but the people in them have been thoroughly brainwashed.

    • @GlasiaVD23
      @GlasiaVD23 10 месяцев назад +5

      Satan > Cults

    • @metal.gendalf
      @metal.gendalf 10 месяцев назад +18

      I think internally people just get tired to be responsible for their own lives.
      If all else failed to bring you happiness or fight your misery. There is always faith and hope to take place of rationality.

    • @nikoknightpuppetproduction369
      @nikoknightpuppetproduction369 10 месяцев назад +7

      Cults trick people into believing that they have deeper revelations than other typical religions have missed that are essential for being in right standing with God.

    • @mariacarvalho2926
      @mariacarvalho2926 10 месяцев назад

      Any form of organized religion is just as stupid as it is dangerous.

  • @moonstar_draws6283
    @moonstar_draws6283 10 месяцев назад +3

    I think sometimes the person attending the church or religion can make it into like a personal cult. Like my church isn’t a cult, but there are some people who go way too crazy about it and try to use fear to make you go. My church tries to stop these kind of people and stop you from spending too much time at church but I swear some people get addicted to church(again, not the church’s fault)

  • @jacobwansleeben3364
    @jacobwansleeben3364 9 месяцев назад +6

    "Joker's more brainwashed than a cult member!"
    - Pancake boi

  • @anonymous-sus406
    @anonymous-sus406 10 месяцев назад +13

    Ive lost an aunt to a cult. Shes Jehovahs Witness

  • @eszterczifranics6339
    @eszterczifranics6339 10 месяцев назад +5

    I have lived in Budapest for 10 years, didn’t know about cults but I know JW is quite extensive in Hungary. The fact he learned Hungarian is quite impressive though as it’s one of the most difficult languages to learn.

  • @Henstinpilled
    @Henstinpilled 10 месяцев назад +9

    Hi undersparked i love your videos so much. Your voice is so incredibly calming. I’ve had a very hard time recently but your videos help me fall asleep and calm down

    • @DaniStone17
      @DaniStone17 9 месяцев назад

      I hope things get better for you, king

  • @erusdearest
    @erusdearest 10 месяцев назад +10

    For profit faith: Cult. Always a cult.

  • @tryingtothrive157
    @tryingtothrive157 2 месяца назад

    It's sad how desperate some people get to find connection in cults. Isolating you from family and controllling who/when/what you can communicate.

  • @Canadian_Alygator
    @Canadian_Alygator 7 месяцев назад +1

    I lived in a cult for years. Got sent to live with my mom and she was part of a religious cult. Been free over ten years and still mentally effed up from it *finger guns*

  • @8Sockhead8
    @8Sockhead8 9 месяцев назад +6

    Hey bestie, just a heads up, when someone is doing hella drugs, or a horse is rolling around in a pile of hay, theyre lost in the sauce. The sauce is good. The sauce is fun.
    People who are in cults are not lost in the sauce, theyre at the bottom of a hole my guy

    • @gwynbetts29
      @gwynbetts29 2 месяца назад

      Appreciate this comment

  • @metal.gendalf
    @metal.gendalf 10 месяцев назад +7

    I think internally people just get tired/unable/unwilling to be responsible for their own lives.
    If all else failed to bring you happiness or fight your misery. There is always faith and hope to take place of rationality.

    • @trevormoney8126
      @trevormoney8126 8 месяцев назад

      I hope you're not conflating cults as described here with having a faith such as Christianity. Yes, cults prey on people who are in need of help, giving them false hope. Plenty of cults in the video disguise themselves as Christianity, but it's evident that they are not Christian in nature to any Christian outside.

  • @Cyyruzz
    @Cyyruzz 10 месяцев назад +9

    I escaped Mormonism, Mormonism manipulated me.

    • @DayleDiamond
      @DayleDiamond 9 месяцев назад +3

      Congratulations on escaping!

  • @Jeepscreeps90210
    @Jeepscreeps90210 9 месяцев назад +1

    Its so remarkable to me that someone who's gone through drug addiction can become part of a cult.. like, okay, if it takes you off the drugs, you want to go all in, maybe, but surely you see the similarities, you see the repeat in your own behaviour, and you know loneliness and pain and enduring that alone, you know what you'll find if you get out.. and youve survived it before.. i know im putting thins very simpel and too rational and general, but still

    • @DayleDiamond
      @DayleDiamond 9 месяцев назад

      The relationship between addiction and controlling behavior is so weird. A relative of mine had an addict for a husband. The addict found a side piece who could control all of his behaviors and stop him from using. Then the side piece got jealous and made him beg his own husband for a divorce.

  • @idkwhatimdoing1459
    @idkwhatimdoing1459 10 месяцев назад +4

    OML WHY DO I LOVE YOUR VIDS SO MUCH!!! :]э

  • @BETRvids
    @BETRvids 5 месяцев назад

    Story 11 hit a little close to home. My mom tried to raise me to be a devout catholic, but I have always been open minded and consider other religions and beliefs as being relevant. Whatever encourages you to treat others right is good in my book. However, lately my mom has been saying some things that sound less like typical catholic stuff and more like fanaticism. Things like "You have no free will; everything you do is God's decision." Which... honestly irks the hell out of me. Every day I try to better myself so I don't hurt others, and allow myself to communicate better with people. I have autism, so communication has been a lifelong challenge. I spent a lot of time trying to learn how to be better at communication and not being perceived as unusual. But now my mom wants me to believe that i had no say in any of this? That this was all God's will and I have no free will of my own? That... sounds so wrong to me, and I hope someday she'll stop thinking like this... but I highly doubt it.
    I don't typically associate Catholics as being a cult, but the things she's saying lately... it sounds cult like.

  • @skyej8074
    @skyej8074 9 месяцев назад +1

    I’m sorry I cracked up at “banged by Ronald” 😂

  • @tamstertx63
    @tamstertx63 9 месяцев назад +4

    The story of Ronald would make an interesting movie

  • @heypatk
    @heypatk 6 месяцев назад

    I live in the south east of of Atlanta. There was this charismatic preacher, who received loans and created Church in the Now. A big splashy good time razzmatazz church. There were teen hang outs that were open to non members. My daughter was atheist but was amenable to a free good time. She mentioned her atheism to another girl who told the pastor. My daughter was cornered and verbally harangued by said pastor. (I didn’t hear about this until later). Things were going swimmingly for this Mega Church until the pastor came out of the closet. The lost all of their followers and the church was foreclosed. Years later it was purchased by a mainstream church at a significantly lower price. I personally felt it had all the vibe of a cult or an mlm. My daughter other than being totally p’d off was unharmed and is still a nonbeliever.

  • @cecinestpaschiara7155
    @cecinestpaschiara7155 6 месяцев назад

    "Not exactly a cult, but -" proceeds by describing a cult.

  • @DestinyObake
    @DestinyObake 9 месяцев назад +1

    I think that every grouping or religion has the potential to be cultish depending on how they act. I’m in a large Christian church and in some places I’ve been, people are chill and kind and just use it as a guideline for living well and as hope in an afterlife. (Me included) but I’ve been to towns where it’s mostly Christians and so if there’s someone not of the same faith they act holier than thou, and as if it’s immediate hellfire for daring to believe other things. All in the same religion. It really is a matter of influence and it’s important to be aware of the dangers and to remember that YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE TO PROPAGANDA! Always be aware and questioning.

  • @garrethboland
    @garrethboland 10 месяцев назад +2

    4:08 Eat chicken burgers? Yea no, I'm good on all that

  • @hewhoisnowhere
    @hewhoisnowhere 9 месяцев назад

    4:32 wow wtf this sounds almost exactly like a church in the city my grandma used to attend, chanting in tongues, laying people on the ground shaking, flickering lights(when they got too loud they people upstairs would flip on n off the lights until they stopped, which did not deter them), every church day with the oil on the forehead, and constantly repenting for everything and anything, probably nothing too

  • @FlossTheBoss-iv3tf
    @FlossTheBoss-iv3tf 7 месяцев назад

    I think the last seconds of this video were my favourite. One thing that bothered me throughout is some of the OPs calling the people who fall for the various cults idiots or similar stuff. I’ve always hated that logic especially when it comes to situations like this. Yeah it’s not a smart thing to do but cults specifically look for people they know would be susceptible. Down on their luck, naive, seeking some form of connection, whatever: That’s their whole deal. These people are, ultimately, victims of people who took advantage of their fragile states to take control of their lives. I really appreciated that acknowledgment.

  • @Arcee-1995
    @Arcee-1995 10 месяцев назад +6

    As some who has witnessed people of the baptist faith not only believe Israel is in the right, and encouraged their actions against the Palestinian people. It’s safe to say it could be considered a cult.

    • @availanila
      @availanila 9 месяцев назад

      It's not a cult per se but a religious movement. It's called Zionism common (almost exclusively) a Christian or Judaic thing.
      Edited to clarify: all Christians, not just Baptists.

    • @gwynbetts29
      @gwynbetts29 2 месяца назад

      High demand group

  • @natashaharvey8340
    @natashaharvey8340 10 месяцев назад +8

    I am pagan and we (pagans) DO NOT do witch craft

    • @Kad3onparad3
      @Kad3onparad3 9 месяцев назад +2

      Witchcraft is not bad, nor good. But you should for sure not mess with bigger spells if you don’t have experience.

    • @auggiet8380
      @auggiet8380 9 месяцев назад +4

      As a pagan who also practices witchcraft, you need to speak for yourself.

    • @auggiet8380
      @auggiet8380 9 месяцев назад

      Also, since we’re in the business now, I’m going to go ahead and share what you didn’t here…pagan is an umbrella term that encompasses MANY paths, many of which do absolutely have witchcraft as an integral and necessary part of their religion, others where it is completely optional but not a requirement, and MAYBE a handful that ban it (I can’t even think of any that outright ban it except for…extreme Hellenic pagans of a very specific variety that like to ignore evidence and history).

    • @killer41756
      @killer41756 6 месяцев назад

      Man I never understood pegans

    • @Jesusisnumberone5740
      @Jesusisnumberone5740 18 дней назад

      The devil is the father of lies

  • @sherrita80548
    @sherrita80548 9 месяцев назад +1

    One of moms friend kids joined a cult when the father got sick and they thought it was serious she came to the hospital and they steaight up told her we taking you out of our will so you are not getting anything she soon after she left along with her handlers from the cult i dont know if her daughter is still in it my mom amd her friend lost touch when my mom got dementia and passed away last yewr year

  • @jasonellis4330
    @jasonellis4330 10 месяцев назад +7

    I don't really like the way the pagan story shits on paganism/wicca/witchcraft in general. I understand why they bashed the cult vibes of this specific group, but the start was just judging witchcraft as a practice

    • @lightmaker5648
      @lightmaker5648 10 месяцев назад +8

      Well for one that's literally his only experience with it so of course he'd think that's what it's all like.

    • @lovelysakurapetalsyt
      @lovelysakurapetalsyt 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@lightmaker5648That's true, and we need to spread proper awareness of what the religions actually are like

    • @lightmaker5648
      @lightmaker5648 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@lovelysakurapetalsyt I myself am Christian, and are horrified whenever I see how awful other Christians can end up being. When literally our number one thing is supposed to be to love one another and just be good people. Like is that so hard?

    • @lovelysakurapetalsyt
      @lovelysakurapetalsyt 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@lightmaker5648 People twist things so much on a daily basis, and end up turning genuine good people want to do into fear. That's when it verges into cult territory. Unfortunately, humans can be bad just as they can be good :(

    • @tiffanymae4290
      @tiffanymae4290 8 месяцев назад +1

      Hmmm kinda how Christians feel when generalized

  • @ActuallyHoudini
    @ActuallyHoudini 8 месяцев назад

    My mum's ex, still friend, ended up going AWOL last year and found himself in a hollistic frog cult. Yes, a hollistic frog cult. They would collect frog mucus and burn it on their skin during yoga.
    To cut to the chase, he was in such a bad state mentally that even the cult couldn't manipulate him.

  • @NagaSadow97
    @NagaSadow97 6 месяцев назад

    I live in the US's bible belt and honestly, I've never had a good experience with church groups or religious people in general, aside from my Grandmother. They were always toxic, extremely manipulative, heavily narcissistic, offensively judgmental, and generally insufferable. It's to the point of where every time someone tells me they're religious, I wince a little and distance myself from them.

  • @LBozoBrain
    @LBozoBrain 10 месяцев назад +21

    Ok why so many cult ones recently?

    • @rubysilvereye3611
      @rubysilvereye3611 10 месяцев назад +13

      Dude this only the 2nd one about cults what you on about

    • @OblivionWalkerVerified
      @OblivionWalkerVerified 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@rubysilvereye3611not just this channel. Many channels. And a lot of these YT’s share stories

    • @andrew_might_community_post
      @andrew_might_community_post 10 месяцев назад +1

      Pla

    • @Nakira2000
      @Nakira2000 10 месяцев назад

      One of us
      One of us
      ONE OF US

    • @alext9320
      @alext9320 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@OblivionWalkerVerified Algorithm. Either channels are seeing similar channels do cult videos so they're playing the algorithm by also doing cult videos, or once you click on a video with "cult" in the title youtube thinks it's a topic you're super into, so they recommend more. Probably a mix of the two.

  • @gabrielsfilms2086
    @gabrielsfilms2086 9 месяцев назад +4

    not the fucking ronald cult-

  • @thomasguglielmo1509
    @thomasguglielmo1509 9 месяцев назад +2

    Joined Kirby vacuums for about 2 weeks...2 weeks too long I'm convinced it was a cult

    • @tiffanymae4290
      @tiffanymae4290 8 месяцев назад

      Oh for sure, biggest cult. Along with the magazine selling

    • @mr.bobcyndaquil4214
      @mr.bobcyndaquil4214 5 месяцев назад

      MLMs like that are essentially commercial cults.

  • @garrybonds686
    @garrybonds686 9 месяцев назад +1

    i can see why that one girl emancipated from her family

  • @kittenflavored
    @kittenflavored 4 месяца назад +1

    The 'memorization of bible verses' one sounds a lot like AWANA, which is/was(?) a church program for kids where you have to pledge to the Christian flag, wear a uniform(like boy scouts), memorize bible verses and then get tested on your retention and the like. AWANA was the cultiest part of my Southern Baptist upbringing.

  • @Dino_nuggie-gold
    @Dino_nuggie-gold 10 месяцев назад +2

    love your videos to fall to sleep too

  • @FelineFosterFamily
    @FelineFosterFamily 10 месяцев назад

    Another great video

  • @Wolfie54545
    @Wolfie54545 9 месяцев назад +4

    Cults tend to prey on people with mental disorders.

  • @jessicagomez7714
    @jessicagomez7714 9 месяцев назад

    This just shows how religions are man made. How many are in a cult but believe they are into something different?

  • @DarcyKennedyGlitch-ur9je
    @DarcyKennedyGlitch-ur9je 9 месяцев назад

    At 16:25 what is this cult's name so I can avoid it AT ALL COSTS!? HOLY SHIT!

  • @tedioustendencies
    @tedioustendencies 9 месяцев назад

    I was listening to Story 6 and went 'wait, this sounds like the church I grew up in'. Which is called Living Word Christian Center. I see that there is a cult for Living Word Fellowship that supposedly disbanded. There's a bunch of churches across the nation called 'Living Word' though so idk. But I know the one I went to definitely sounded like Story 6 and also tried to pray the gay away, did the pressing hands to foreheads speaking in tongues and people fall over convulsing shit and more.

    • @Julez60
      @Julez60 9 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds like a cult...
      looks like a cult....
      Walks like a cult...

  • @David-bg9od
    @David-bg9od 9 месяцев назад

    Other way around for me. I left the cult my family is in.

  • @ayushthealpha3574
    @ayushthealpha3574 Месяц назад

    aye i know one of these from irl
    i know about the brhamkumaris
    my mum listened online to one of their representative's talks
    i wouldnt say its a cult
    but it is a full on religion
    you would enter thinking its just some meditation thing
    but then they start giving you lessons on their religon and hold some meditation session and hell even take tests
    but no horrible stuff like the other stories
    and they didnt ask for money even
    like if you want to buy a book that you gotta pay for
    but you could come and goas you please
    when my father got transferred by his job mum got word they give teachings and meditation in one of the houses given by my fathers job to its employees she tried it
    she only knew about the meditation and the knowlegefull talks which were actually pretty good that she listened online to
    but when we started going their it was starting to feel like a whole religon so we left shortly after

  • @Eevee_133
    @Eevee_133 8 месяцев назад

    Story 6 sounds a hell of a lot either like LLDM or Calvary Chapel…

    • @tainatai.
      @tainatai. 7 месяцев назад

      Not calvery 😂shoot i go there but i wouldnt be surprise. He said coffee shop i was like wait😅😅😅

  • @possibly_painful
    @possibly_painful 6 месяцев назад

    15:40 story nine is… something, to say the least 3:26

  • @robbiehasnobones
    @robbiehasnobones 9 месяцев назад +1

    as a pagan, i do not like these pagans in this video.

  • @devonherman3973
    @devonherman3973 9 месяцев назад

    Can we pause for a moment and explain to me why exactly im watching call of duty gameplay while listening to these stories???

  • @KE-xj9vm
    @KE-xj9vm 9 месяцев назад

    Always baffles me how these groups always enforce stupid rules with suppression and shame and isolation and fear. Wouldn’t be amazing if there was something that united us in spirituality (which is an essential part of the human existence - body/mind/spirit), but did not force everyone to conform and isolate. I believe everyone in all religions is talking about the same thing but with different interpretations and then get on their high horse about their interpretations being the only correct way to believe. It’s nuts

  • @consumingkazoos
    @consumingkazoos 10 месяцев назад +6

    what if you used splatoon battles for the bg game next?

    • @eatmynutsarchmage4883
      @eatmynutsarchmage4883 10 месяцев назад +2

      splatoon games are so much fun to watch, i’d definitely like that

    • @frozencatcake
      @frozencatcake 10 месяцев назад

      fr

    • @itz.Voidzy
      @itz.Voidzy 10 месяцев назад +1

      i just listen to it in the background while i work on highschool homework so ngl as long as the stories are good its all cool w me

  • @MooOfpuppet
    @MooOfpuppet 10 месяцев назад +2

    Title is pretty specific huh? 😂

  • @TheDCAUgothic
    @TheDCAUgothic 8 месяцев назад

    Some cousins brought a friend to a family gathering(Christmas i think). They were Mormons and trying to convert the friend and badmouthed us for being Christians and saying we were going to hell. My mom over heard and said some things, nicely btw aside from saying some things that the Mormons do that is a big no no according to God's word. My mom asked the friend nicely if she would still like to join the Mormon church after what she said and pointed out how they were treating family who weren't Mormon? Friend said no. The cousins were piiiiiiisssssed.

  • @G27pat
    @G27pat 8 месяцев назад +5

    Lost a few friends to the MAGA cult who cut out anyone who wasn't openly worshiping Trump or didn't state that he was "Chosen by God as the new Christ".

    • @janeygotaknife
      @janeygotaknife 8 месяцев назад +1

      That is whack I’m so sorry

    • @pandakicker1
      @pandakicker1 2 месяца назад

      As someone who has voted for him twice, I don’t know anyone like this at all. My best friend is a socialist. Not everyone who wants Trump to win is like your friend, but your friend did join a cult. I am not in it.

  • @sweetdaddydee1314
    @sweetdaddydee1314 10 месяцев назад +5

    One could argue that all organized religions could be considered a cult.

    • @filipe.sm31
      @filipe.sm31 10 месяцев назад +2

      I wouldn't say they all are cults today, but some of them definitely started as a cult. I mean just look at Jesus: guy is a religious leader, preaches the end of times, "he who's not with me is against me", "I'm the only way to heaven", etc. It was definitely a cult of personality

    • @lovelysakurapetalsyt
      @lovelysakurapetalsyt 10 месяцев назад

      I'd say more of any religion that preaches fear for salvation is a cult. If you need fear to make people get into your religion, it's a cult

  • @acanadian4785
    @acanadian4785 6 месяцев назад

    Well all my family is still I in the Catholic Church and I’m not so… I’ve never felt so much hate than that of which was disguised as “Christian love”. Basically Christian love = hate 90% of the time when you don’t agree with them

  • @codm22712
    @codm22712 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hello good people

  • @chaseyboi9918
    @chaseyboi9918 10 месяцев назад

    I very misunderstood what the title meant

  • @Nothingaboutme-n4x
    @Nothingaboutme-n4x 10 месяцев назад +1

    I dont get it

  • @chmarie8360
    @chmarie8360 9 месяцев назад

    Coffee oasis?

  • @BIGGER_RED
    @BIGGER_RED 9 месяцев назад +3

    These are examples of religion not having a true relationship with God
    I'm sorry to anybody who has been hurt by people using and abusing in the name of God

  • @Dino_nuggie-gold
    @Dino_nuggie-gold 10 месяцев назад +2

    hi

  • @JinkiesJeeprs
    @JinkiesJeeprs 7 месяцев назад

    Hey there! Person newly practicing Wicca here. So I haven’t been doing this for long but from that story it sounds pretty fucking sketchy- do your research y’all, use spells, symbols and other stuff that works for you. All religion can be perceived differently from person to person. Be careful and don’t let yourself be conned or groomed. Stay safe out there folks❤

  • @Jinadaz
    @Jinadaz 10 месяцев назад +1

    Now they do brainwashing out in the open with colourful hair😂

    • @pur3chao56
      @pur3chao56 10 месяцев назад +1

      No, most of it comes from white guys in suits who claimed they can cure anything through prayer but only if you pay and Karen with her essential oils that can cure Autism

  • @AH-lw2bj
    @AH-lw2bj 10 месяцев назад

    They went to University, now she's a they, and has purple and green hair!!
    Help!!

  • @mysurfing3550
    @mysurfing3550 10 месяцев назад +1

    When the branch covidian religious faith broke out, it was pretty traumatising to me. The media took an extremely average virus (something like it literally happens every year it was just never talked about) and ya'll followed nonsense and it still hurts if I think about it.

    • @metal.gendalf
      @metal.gendalf 10 месяцев назад +8

      Sure, sure. Tell that to my dead relatives...

    • @mysurfing3550
      @mysurfing3550 10 месяцев назад

      @@metal.gendalf Right. See, the thing is to know one person who died "with" covid is rare, the odds of multiple is so low unless you live in an elder home. It was less deadly than regular flu but extremely average for an end of life pneumonia (odds are if we survive until old age most of us will die "with" a pneumonia, but honestly used to prevail and the actual cause of death was listed as primary.

    • @fractalgem
      @fractalgem 10 месяцев назад +5

      Also tell that ignorant nonsense to the MONTHS I spent healing from it!

    • @philzeo
      @philzeo 10 месяцев назад

      Yeaaah, I didn't believe it till I lost family members.
      The flu never killed anyone in my family. Covid did.

    • @maddyc2412
      @maddyc2412 10 месяцев назад +3

      Sounds like it hurts when you think about anything lmao