Honest about what everybody knew. Michael had problems but those problems manifested himself long before his death. The whole pedophile situation really destroyed him and his reputation beyond repair
Smokey is spot-on about the Pepsi accident changing the trajectory of Michael's life. Having to take the pain killers is what started the prescription pill issues. One thing I'd say, though, is that Michael was being taken advantage of by AEG. They knew he wasn't feeling well, and they didn't care.
The only problem is he owed so much money and it's like MJ said it was just business. We cant agree with MJ that it was just business then be upset when someone else treats it as such. I definitely hate that he had so many people around him who wanted something from him because that's what killed him. He could have spent all the money he wanted it was his, but all those people who sued him wrongly. Jordy and his family got 20 mil the Francia family victor Gutierrez owed him 2mil when he fled to keep from paying him.. all the lawyer fees he could have kept, all of the sleep he lost etc.. neverland 5 when he counter sued them. The people who claimed he stole their song. Like MJ said they knew in their heart that they didnt write those songs
Its possible AEG didn't know exactly what Michael's health status was...If His YES People around him said he was fit and healthy cause that's what he wanted them to report back to them and say...Why would they question it...AEG wanted to hire a Doctor to look after him..before he went and found Dr Murray to take care of him at his home..
@@lisahays9226 If he knew he was in the right all along why payout anything..When he paid that Boy and his Parents Millions... it made him look guilty of something...even if he wasn't at all..Maybe someone told him if he paid the kid and his Parents something it would all go away..
@@heavenawilson7271 @Heavena Wilson i dont disagree it definitely made him look guilty he said in his 2005 trial it was his biggest regret He had the opportunity to make it go away if it's what he wanted to do when Evan Chandler first accused him of it. If MJ didnt give him money he would go to the authorities. He could have just paid the money but he knew he wasnt guilty of anything and he knew he would win in court. Also evan being recorded and saying he would get everything he wanted and didn't care how it all affected Jordy, him saying what kind of lawyer he chose and for what reason made them look incredible. Even tom meseareu said had they fought in 93 he would have won because they had no case. Why go through that much to make the civil trial fo before the criminal? Then they kept trying to get more money Did you know that the settlement was for negligence and paid by his insurance company? They would have lost billions of dollars and been drawn out 5 to 7 years. Mj tried to fight the case but his lawyers advised him not to. His problem was that because they let the civil trial go first the other side had access to all of his info and could change dates and do whatever just to dit their narrative. The case could have still landed him in prison. They sued him civilly and even after they got the money they could have proceeded with a criminal trial but they. Chose not to. The discription of his penis that the young man gave also did not match he one said he was circumcised but MJ was not he also described the marking wrong. Has since said MJ never touched him and legally will fight anyone who comes after him.
I can listen to Smokey Robinson talk all day. He has no reason to lie and the stories are educational, historical and life lessons. He has seen, and experienced a lot and he appears humbled.
What Smokey is saying is true. MJ definitely didn't like being told "NO". And I've heard this from MULTIPLE people who was around MJ. BUT, I want people to try and understand from Michaels POV. And smokey alluded to this, Since being a young child, Michael NEVER had full control of his life. Between Motown/Berry Gordy, Hollywood business, and his father Joseph-- Michael was ALWAYS told what to DO, what to SAY, what NOT to do and what NOT to say....since the age of 5. There were plenty of these people telling him No, dont to this and that. and some of that included normal kid stuff...that they said he couldnt be apart of because he was now a big commodity for alot of these money hungry Hollywood people. He never had any say in his own life. So when he was finally able to break free, he wanted full control of his life. He was tired of people telling him what to do and what he couldnt do. Now I'm not saying he didn't make some bad choices, but imagine being told what to do well into your adult life and not being able to make decisions for yourself?? Unfortunately he made Alot of bad decisions and distanced himself some of those people he NEEDED to hear 'NO' from...but can you blame him...? MJ being robbed of a normal childhood, in addition to the 'abuse' he suffered as a child really had its effect on him. Mike was too sensitive and not mentally ready for alot of that stuff he went throught at that early of an age. But he was tough....make no mistake about it. Any other person woulda 'self deleted' as they say.... Michael was definitely wired different.
@@joyell821 Sure, but eventually that stops and the boy starts to make his own choices.... That wasn't the case for Michael... And being in the Hollywood life, you are bombarded with people you don't even know controlling your life. What to wear, what to say In interviews, you can't go here, you can't play outside, etc... You can't be a normal kid. This happened to Michael well into his early adult years...
Even though Smokey said he and Michael hadn't talked in years before his death you can tell that bond wasn't broken and Smokey loved him forever, he spoke about Michael as if that was his own son that tough love he had for Michael in his voice. We all need a ol school take no mess father/grandfather like him.
I said d same ting to people around me about the PepsiCo but I wil addl extra a. Few cover ups are in Michael j death the doctor know a few things and other people Michael was murder
idk, maybe its cuz they knew each other personally, but they dont defend and hype up MJ the way he should be. Only person who does that is perhaps Prince Jackson, and Taj Jackson
This has to be the most real take on Michael on the internet. Not burying him just keeping it real. You can see in his eyes that he truly and genuinely cared for Michael and is sad to see what became of Michael.
Yeah cause all the original members of the miracles gone except him and his ex wife. Aretha gone, Marvin gone, almost all the temptations, MJ. Its crazy
@@josiahmitchell8594 exactly, there's literally no one else left. It seems that the loss of Marvin and MJ hit him the hardest for some reason though. He broke down and cried after he found out they both passed away.
Greatest respect for Smokey Robinson. He just confirmed what Stephanie Mills said about Michael. She said they dated briefly but she was too dark and opinionated for the Handlers he had. She said she would always be honest with MJ and remind him not to lose who he truly was. He stopped speaking to her because she became a No person just like Smokey hinted at. But she said he was always down to earth with her when they we're younger. They do their laundry together. Just laugh and talk. Wish he had kept her and Smokey around. Good interview.👏👏👏
What did the “handlers” have to do with that? Sounds more like Michael made his choice and he chose to surround himself with spineless, viper azz yes-men. Actions have consequences. 🤷🏾♀️
Stephanie began to said that only around BLM emerged. Before that she said MJ wasn't ready for marriage when she plainly asked him if he would marry her. I don't trust people, who change their stories. Neither should you.
As bad as Michael's body dysmorphia and panic attacks are and should be highlighted in the fight for mental health, drug addiction is a whole 'nother animal with very serious physical implications. After that Pepsi accident, Michael started looking more for pharmaceutical escapes and that was vicious all the way til the end
"Escapes" is the word. Him and quite a few others were escaping with drugs. It's a dead end. I mean if the problem was REALLY sleep - you can hire a sleep therapist to help you. A nurse who worked for him said she begged him to stop, and get some real help. But she was just a worker...
that is not true and this myth was created by the media after mJ died. MJ was not addicted to anything before the 1993 scalp surgery. It was that not the burn itself that lead to chronic pain because he developed neuroma. Google it what that means. I don't blame him for taking painkillers for that shit
@@oskartgrouch8757 no, MJ had refractory insomnia. You can get any sleep therapist you want , there is no cure. He would have died from sleep deprivation sooner or later.
@@oskartgrouch8757 Yea she tried to warn him about propofol but he was adamant that he was safe as long as he was being monitored. He trusted the doctor with his life. AEG were putting insane pressure on them both, though
Smokey is definitely a real one, a true friend will always keep it 💯 no matter if you're wrong or right.... Vlad definitely one of your best interviews yet!!! ✊🏾
This man is not lying. It makes sense. I love MJ, but I do believe that's why MJ cut a lot of people off. He wanted people around him that will never tell him no. Honestly that's what he needed! RIP. We miss you MJ!
Kind of sounds like some Rich James craziness. Michael brought himself a doctor who would do whatever he wanted. The doctor threw the hippocratic oath out the window. Michael should have been in therapy for his sleep problems, not being doped up and given heavy narcotics, plus Anesthesia night after night. That was crazy.
Words cannot describe how wonderful it is to just watch and listen to Smokey. Men from his era were just so damn manly, cool, and confident. I'm making a pot of red beans and just want to offer him a bowl! Makes me miss my Dad and great uncles who have passed on 🥰
Smokey is a real one. I shattered my ankle in 2021. The doctors had to stabilize my ankle and put it in a cast while I waited for surgery. They warned me I would be getting propofol. Smokey’s descriptions spot on. I freaking turned my head and looked back and the cast was on. Apparently some time went by. Michael had that regularly? Wow 😮
Smokey definitely saw Michael as a nephew or another son I think all of the Motown legends still around would say the same I saw an interview with Martha Reeves and she also referred to Michael as that little boy
It all makes sense now. I always wondered why nobody was telling MJ not to do certain things, but he distanced himself from them. He surrounded him self with people that would say yes to everything he said or wanted.
MJ had serious trust issues and for a reason. Fsme brought many fake people around him and he couldn't tell who to trust. The Glenda tapes are very tell-taling. He keeps telling Glenda how he can't tell who to trust. Even with women his main issue is trust and not love. Before everything he had to knoe if he can trust a woman. No wonder he let Lisa Marie go after he found out she lied to him. She broke rule No1 with MJ. No matter hoe mich they loved each other, the thing was over becasue of lack of trust.
I feel like the pepsi commercial completely changed the direction of where Michael was going. I think he would still have been incredible and I think he wouldn't have had so many mental health issues where he would still be here.
He never stopped being incredible, but I get what you're saying. I think he would have been happier and would have had a somewhat more normal life, if you can call it that. The Pepsi incident, losing Diana Ross, along with the added pressures of staying on top, maintaining a brand, taking care of people that depend on you, all while having zero anonymity... When we think about it, most people wouldn't have lasted as long as he did. Who else having ever lived, can say they experienced what he did to the degree in which he did?
@@SimplyBeingTT Exactly as you just said none of us could handle the life mj had so this high and mighty attitude that people have about him needs to stop
He’s absolutely right, about the addiction starting in ‘84, when he burnt his hair. Because after that, he was relying on pills and anaesthesia, to the point where it killed him. And when you have power and money, no one can tell you ‘no’. Mj abused that power and it got the best of him. But rip Mike, the greatest ever.
Correct.👏 Tho, he didn't have an addiction in 84, that's just when he started to take those kinda drugs to help with the burn and he was taking them as prescribed. He got addicted later on. I'd say after the first accusations. I get tired of clowns saying it was "Sony" or some illuminati...🙄🤡 Michael was ultimately responsible for his own fate. Same with Elvis, Prince, Whitney, 2pac and Soo many others
@@joyell821 That's a lie. And I know where you heard that. Dudes lying. Michael was clean as a whistle during that time. Drugs was a definite NO. Especially illegal drugs.
Smokey is right about Michael but most children and youth who have that type of stardom become spoiled like that because their emotional growth is interrupted by the catchings of fame. He was a sweet and generous soul. He was severely injured in the fire on the Pepsi commercial shoot but did you eventhough he was severely injured and in pain he had to finish that commercial a few days later? I know they hopped him up on those deep drugs to get him back out there.
Kanye even mentioned this about himself during one of the online interviews he did towards the end of the year. Said he had stopped maturing/growing emotionally, and probably devolved as well, once he was a big enough star to just get everything he wanted without a chance of hearing "no".
The Pepsi incident, losing Diana Ross, along with the added pressures of staying on top, maintaining a brand, taking care of people that depend on you, all while having zero anonymity... When we think about it, most people wouldn't have lasted as long as he did. Who else having ever lived, can say they experienced what he did to the degree in which he did?
@@chancebrown106 Exactly. As part of the Jackson 5 he experienced it, but he had his brothers to experience that with. Thriller though... took him to a whole other level that his brothers nor any other superstar, past, present, or future will ever experience. AND, he went through that by himself. That's isolating...almost like solitary confinement in a sense. Not even Paul McCartney, Diana Ross, Janet Jackson, etc know what it's like to not be able to go anywhere without causing melee every single time. Then having that much power and talent, there was always people that wanted or needed something from him. He had very few he could trust, or with whom he could just simply be. That's why he enjoyed the company of children. It was innocent and gave him a sense of normality.
Must have been the loneliest thing to experience something NOBODY experiences, had eyperineved and will experience. And to be surrounded by people who can't wait to sell stories about you.
So glad Smokey Robinson is still with us, he's a gem. I don't think that Michael Jackson the person was in his head for many years. "yes men" ruined him. Science doesn't even know exactly how brain trauma and anesthesia works, no one should be messing around with it. They ruined and ultimately killed a global treasure.
I never knew that Pepsi commercial accident was that serious that Mike needed a plate put in his skull. That plus the constant migraines would explain a lot
Condolences to Mike. The abuse and all the recovery wasn't enough. People couldn't understand, but I feel like as time passed he did his best to settle. From the litigation to the purchase of masters of fellow artists to even touring due to appreciation of the investment of himself. Thriller still touches different. Almost comparable to M. Knight Sham's IT. Rest in power and peace.
Wow. At 55 I had Colon problems and got a Colonoscopy. My first time going under. I was in good health, but heart decease ran in the family. They gave me Propephol too. Best sleep I ever had, but when I woke up, 3 Dr.s and a couple Nurses were around me saying whew, There he his. They said that I didn't want to come back out of it. After that, no more Propephol for me.
I worked at Veterinary hospitals for about 27 years and I used to administer Propofol to the animals..This drug has to be done in a hospital setting, not in a house..It can cause the patient to stop breathing, but it's ok if you're in a hospital..The Doctor should never have given Michael Jackson Propofol at home SMH
"I remember when I first shook Smokey Robinson's hand. It was like shaking hands with a king. My eyes lit up with stars, and I remember telling my mother that his hand felt as if it was layered with soft pillows. You don't think about the little impressions people walk away with when you're a star yourself, but the fans do. At least, I know I did. I mean, I walked around saying, 'His hand is /so soft/.' When I think about it now, it sounds silly, but it made a big impression on me. I had shaken Smokey Robinson's hand." -- Micheal Jackson, on his early memories of Motown, from his autobiography "Moon Walk" (1988)
Smokey is right about Michael Jackson only surrounding himself with yes people. It even caused the riff with his sister, Janet, and they had been close. She spoke about it in her documentary. It's sad, but Michael's end came to him because of himself. Smokey is also right about Elvis. That is the one thing that I wish they had expressed more in the movie. Elvis only wanted people around him who did exactly what he said, and that's why he died from that combination of drugs and bad dieting.
Yh the Elvis movie was good but it avoided exploring his addictions. Why do films do that...the Whitney Houston film also neglected discussing her obvious drug problem too.
@@Akumaten1 I highly disagree. That case with Murray was a disaster. The prosecutors were more worried about their reputation and career than doing the case as it should. The invetigators were beside themselves the prosecutors didn't go for 2nd degree mudrer. If you listen to Judge Pastor's closing speech he literally said Murray's act was way beyond involuntary manslaughter, the judge basically apologized he can't sentence Murray for more than 4 years, because law doesn't let him to. The expert witnesses simply spit on Murray. Amazing testimones, btw. So let's not follow the media narrative in this. There is one person responsible for MJs death and that's Conrad Murray and him alone.
Everything coming from Smokey Robinson and Barry Gordy is genuine because these two men are the only ones in the industry that really knew him and can explain what was going on. Michael was like family to them.
Yeah, his hair caught on fire 🔥 😢😢😢 Rest In Power Michael. It’s not hard to see why he needed surgery, 👁️ had no idea the plate in his head was giving him that much pain.
The part where he fell down the stairs was a dramatization from the Jackson’s American Dream movie. In real life he just spun around and fell. The actual footage is here on RUclips
@@danimalwonderpants2123 I have no idea why they had him tumble and roll down the stairs like that 😩when MJ didn’t even realize his hair was on fire until he got to the bottom of the stairs
Maaaan, when he said “Michael who” I laughed. Then I instantly stopped. Bc I had the same reaction. You just didn’t want to believe it. So your asking who, when deep down you just knew and then your body comes to the realization 😢
I did a little time in Los Angeles county jail, and I remember this young black kid used to tap the side of his head really fast everytime he heard “Michael Jackson’s voice” He danced and did all these nice moves in front of all of us at the pod we were housed at. This was 11’-12’ Good times.
The family & friends have tried numerous times since the 90s to get Michael some help with his addiction he went to rehab, that’s why he canceled the rest of Dangerous tour, Lisa Marie tried to help Michael but he pushed her & that led to on & off relationship for 4 years after they divorced, when you into the 00s from 00-4 Michael using & you can tell by his eyes & how he looks like he’s not there just watch 30th anniversary special you can tell & Lisa Marie pointed out in the documentary Martin Bashir did he was on something by the way he would respond to songs either he was to fast or slow, then left America he was fine but when he got back to America that’s when it got bad again
Randy Jackson said that they tried on at least 7 occasions to make MJ go to rehab and he refused so those in the know, knew he might have died at any time of an overdose. His security or handlers called a former nurse about a week before he died to ask her what to do because he was hot on one side of his body and cold on the other and she told them to take him to the hospital because his central nervous system was shutting down. MJ had a lot of issues (psychological and physical) but refused to see those who cared enough to help him. He was a sad, sad man which is so ironic because his talents made all of us so happy.
@@tykelwilliams6053 however Lisa saying MJ pushed her away because of drugs isn't true. She said the reason of their break-up was because of differences between them about having a child. Which MJs version confirms (Shmuley-tapes), that he got rid of Lisa becauae she lied to him for a whole year about taking the pill. Though it broke his heart, he lost trust in her.
I had propofol as part of a medical procedure. Best 1.5 hours of sleep I’ve ever had in my life. I swear I woke up feeling like I sleep for 8 hours. I can see how someone with sleeping problems could get addicted to it.
100%, I've had a colonoscopy and they gave me propofol and I remember the anesthesiologist telling me "ok just relax we're about to start" and in 3 to 4 seconds I was out and waking up in the other room. I felt so rested after lol, i agree the best sleep I ever had.
Born in '91 (my bday is Aug. 29th so I do share that with MJ) so obviously I wasn't around for the Pepsi fire and whatnot. However, from the countless documentaries, specials, biopics, interviews, etc. I wager one of MANY reasons that Michael 'divorced' himself from his family was due to the fire. Think about it, he wanted to go solo before age 18. His mother said in one interview that MJ may want to go solo because he doesn't need his brothers, but his brothers need him. I don't know the exact details of course, but based on The American Dream biopic, MJ didn't want to do the Pepsi run with The Jacksons post-Motown 25. Heck, the Victory Tour is what prevented him from doing a Thriller tour. Putting his family ahead of his own wants is what lead to his hair catching fire and well I sure as heck wouldn't want to be the family breadwinner if it almost killed me...I think that was when he first started getting drawn (I don't wanna say addicted) to the usage of pills to ease whatever pain or whatnot he was experiencing later in life.
I believe the part about Michael cutting people off who don’t see eye to eye with him. All respect to Mike, I love him with all my heart. He liked yes people around because of his upbringing, he was in a strict, abusive and over controlled environment. When he broke free on his own he never wanted to be controlled again. He liked having his way because of that. Its a psychological thing.
Although I appreciate and AGREE with the honesty of the elder, Smokey.....Vladimir is very manipulative and loves to take shots at Black icons. I'll NEVER forget Vladimir's incessant attacks on Michael, in 2019....during the "Leaving Neverland" propaganda. Once he sees the tide turning, Vladimir tries to praise Michael, again. Then he flips, again. Yuk.
Vlad from what I see is pretty fair. He might change his opinions based on new information. It’s not fair to go back into somebody’s past and ridicule them for opinions they had. People grow and change every single day. I can bet that most of your opinions aren’t constant either. It’s a fact of life. Calling him Vladimir to be condescending is yuk to me…
@@AntsDrone OH, PUH-LEEZE🙄 YOU (and most of your generation) are gullible and quick to comply. Vladimir is a very manipulative opportunist and it has NOTHING to do with his "evolution". Michael Jackson isn't the only Black icon he's trashed. Nor, is it the only propaganda he consciously, aggressively pushed via this platform to his majority Black audience. Typical Ashkenazi: exploit Black culture and emotions ( nostalgia via our icons )....while injecting their propaganda and politics. VLADimir's marriage and reproducing with/lusting for a Black woman means nothing, to me. He needs to constantly control Black/mixed men ....even in his personal life. This does not affect his power dynamic. Typical Ashkenazi. VLADIMIR. His name. He's Generation X and so am I. And I don't just b_tch on the internet. I've taught and mentored kids (now men and women), since 1999. I don't hide in anonymity. I know your young ego will force you to reply (and others after you). *I WILL NOT READ, OR REPLY TO YOU, OR ANYONE ELSE ON THIS THREAD. SO, YOUR REPLY WILL BE USELESS. BUT, I KNOW YOUR EGO CAN'T RESIST*
The more we listen the better we’ll understand how serious the fire accident was. Michael had 3rd degree burns, a plate, and when they released the autopsy information if I remember correctly it was said he was completely bald at the time of his death. And it also said he had scars on his legs consistent with those suffering from vitiligo. So imagine growing up in the spotlight where everyone payed so much attention to your looks.
That's not quite the case (him being fully bald). However the autopsy mentioned over 10 cuts (from surgeries) on the top of his head. While there were only 2-2 cuts by the side of his nostrils... (which means only 2 plastic surgeries on thr nose)
Not true at all, Michael's autopsy stated he had about 2 to 3 inches of short curly hair underneath his wig. He was not bald, which Latoya also confirmed as she had to go with authorities to watch them remove hair from Michael's deceased body. Michael also did not have any plate in his head, he had surgery to repair his burned scalp which his own hair eventually grew over it. Patches of his hair started to fall out from lupus which led to the wigs,but he was not bald.
@@kellyjones5509not so much with prince when you have chronic pain you take the meds your body gets used to it and the pain remains prince didn't have a choice michael had chronic pain from his back as well, every mega star has yes men around them
Even though I love Michael Jackson don't get me wrong But it's obvious that he was incredibly hard headed and was surrounded by yes men and enablers. Anybody who REALLY cared about him and cared enough would've told him that the drugs, the plastic surgeries, and honestly? Even though I believe he's innocent, having sleepovers with kids wasn't smart. Somebody should've really got on his head and maybe he'd still be here today.
I’ve said that before to people… the domino effect that hair fire accident is so sad… from the prescription to MJ meeting Arnie Kline in the doctor the started giving MJ so many pills and also talking into more plastic surgery to keep his pockets full… MJ’s mother said it in an interview about the Arnie not having his best interest when it came to surgeries
All respect to Smokey, but I couldn't speak so definitively about someone I hadn't spoken to in years. There are a lot of reasons why Michael wasn't in contact with people like his family. A lot of people were attempting to eat off Michael and he became very paranoid of people's intentions as time went on. His own family didn't always have his best interest at heart either. It's the sad truth. It was part of the price of his level of fame tbh. It's depressing to think about, but then we wouldn't have the musical landscape we have now without him and everything he did. Please believe if he listened to his dad and Berry and them, we wouldn't have Thriller, and that opened the door, especially for black artists of the 80s up to now. It quite frankly saved the record industry from going bust at that time.
Spot on! Ppl have no idea when it comes to mj and Motown, ppl just assume they had his best interest because of the optics! I love motown, so much I know the history, Mj lived life longer than most of the tragic stars at that label, they backstabbed each other CONSTANTLY(the temptations movie shows this!) how is that any better than the mainstream pop world? Mj couldn't trust NOBODY from the jump because he was the cash cow, it's REALLY not his fault nobody black or white ever got hysterical reactions off their talent like him, he couldn't relate to NO ONE
I think the Pepsi situation started it but the allegations intensified it, especially the second one, he looked soulless after the second allegations and trial in 2005
I agree with you. I was happy with the second verdict....but when I saw him walk out of that courtroom looking all gaunt and all drained - I knew his life would never be the same. Sad.
That is the TRUTH!!! When he got burned filming that commercial, that started the lifelong addiction to pain medication. That Dr. Conrad, found out on that day in 2009. He should have gotten more years in prison..smh.
Propofol is powerful af… had that for knee surgery and I was told I was so asleep, and wouldn’t wake up post surgery that they (Dr/Nurses) were getting worried… I will say tho, that was some of the best sleep I ever had…
It really IS some good sleep lol. I understand why MJ wanted to sleep like that everyday. But on the other hand, it's supposed to be administered in a medical setting - not in your private bedroom. I wish he got proper treatment for his insomnia
MJ excluding people who said no was part of why and how he broke so many boundaries in music and life. to him there was nothing that was unachievable, he even had plans to moonwalk on the moon
I don’t know what they’re talmbout. When I “awoke” from being under anesthesia, I was so freakin’ tired! I had to be at the hospital at like 5am so I didn’t get any sleep the night before thinking I’d get my rest being under anesthesia. WRONG! I went to the hospital tired and when I left later that afternoon I was EXHAUSTED. Being under anesthesia is _not_ the same thing as sleep; genuine rest. 🤷🏾♀️
@@Jiron127 Nope, it _was_ Propofol because I saw that name on the IV bag and was kinda tripping out a lil bit. I even joked with the nurse saying I didn’t want to go out like Michael Jackson. And like I said, I “awoke” from anesthesia (Propofol) and was more tired than when I went under. 🤷🏾♀️
Lisa marie presley said the exact same thing on her oprah interview back in 2010. She said he was surrounded by too many yes men and called them vampires
Watch the full interview now as a VladTV RUclips Member: ruclips.net/channel/UCg7lal8IC-xPyKfgH4rdUcAjoin
Believe it or not Smokey is Michael’s biological dad
He's one of the few ppl who can be this honest about the situation
We need people like Smokey to tell the truth.
Honest about what everybody knew. Michael had problems but those problems manifested himself long before his death. The whole pedophile situation really destroyed him and his reputation beyond repair
That Michael Jackson situation is so wrong and sad
One of the things I always respected about older people is they tell like it is, especially that era....no bs
How can you be honest about a situation you weren’t there to see?
Smoke from a generation that genuinely cared about other people.
Exactly
Nigga please
Not really
@@joelx3612 yes really people was nice for each other
👍🏾
Mr. Robinson is a very wise man. What Michael went through is very heartbreaking. It's wild how many people's lives were impacted by his death.
hes the goat
His death and the impact it had on ppl is still mentioned in books and magazines today
Smokey is spot-on about the Pepsi accident changing the trajectory of Michael's life. Having to take the pain killers is what started the prescription pill issues. One thing I'd say, though, is that Michael was being taken advantage of by AEG. They knew he wasn't feeling well, and they didn't care.
The only problem is he owed so much money and it's like MJ said it was just business. We cant agree with MJ that it was just business then be upset when someone else treats it as such. I definitely hate that he had so many people around him who wanted something from him because that's what killed him. He could have spent all the money he wanted it was his, but all those people who sued him wrongly. Jordy and his family got 20 mil the Francia family victor Gutierrez owed him 2mil when he fled to keep from paying him.. all the lawyer fees he could have kept, all of the sleep he lost etc.. neverland 5 when he counter sued them. The people who claimed he stole their song. Like MJ said they knew in their heart that they didnt write those songs
Smokey’s a class act
Its possible AEG didn't know exactly what Michael's health status was...If His YES People around him said he was fit and healthy cause that's what he wanted them to report back to them and say...Why would they question it...AEG wanted to hire a Doctor to look after him..before he went and found Dr Murray to take care of him at his home..
@@lisahays9226 If he knew he was in the right all along why payout anything..When he paid that Boy and his Parents Millions... it made him look guilty of something...even if he wasn't at all..Maybe someone told him if he paid the kid and his Parents something it would all go away..
@@heavenawilson7271 @Heavena Wilson i dont disagree it definitely made him look guilty he said in his 2005 trial it was his biggest regret
He had the opportunity to make it go away if it's what he wanted to do when Evan Chandler first accused him of it. If MJ didnt give him money he would go to the authorities. He could have just paid the money but he knew he wasnt guilty of anything and he knew he would win in court. Also evan being recorded and saying he would get everything he wanted and didn't care how it all affected Jordy, him saying what kind of lawyer he chose and for what reason made them look incredible. Even tom meseareu said had they fought in 93 he would have won because they had no case. Why go through that much to make the civil trial fo before the criminal? Then they kept trying to get more money
Did you know that the settlement was for negligence and paid by his insurance company? They would have lost billions of dollars and been drawn out 5 to 7 years. Mj tried to fight the case but his lawyers advised him not to. His problem was that because they let the civil trial go first the other side had access to all of his info and could change dates and do whatever just to dit their narrative. The case could have still landed him in prison. They sued him civilly and even after they got the money they could have proceeded with a criminal trial but they. Chose not to. The discription of his penis that the young man gave also did not match he one said he was circumcised but MJ was not he also described the marking wrong. Has since said MJ never touched him and legally will fight anyone who comes after him.
It’s amazing we even still have Smokey Robinson, much less having him not be a senile old man clearly.
FACTS - this man is literally a walking History Book of R & B Black Culture, Music Culture.
I’m under 50 and I can’t remember most stuff I did growing up
Yes indeed!! Smokey's mental clarity is Off the Chain!!
Man..that's why this definitely the greatest interview Vlad ever did for the culture 💯
@@Aliaz93moneyfingerz You’re exactly right! I paid to be a subscriber because to see the whole Smokey interview.
I can listen to Smokey Robinson talk all day. He has no reason to lie and the stories are educational, historical and life lessons. He has seen, and experienced a lot and he appears humbled.
Yes! You are Spot on!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤️❤️❤️
Plus his speaking voice is close in tone to his singing voice, so it's aesthetically pleasing as well
I remember him talking about Marvin Gaye’s death. It was educational yet heartbreaking at the same time.
What Smokey is saying is true.
MJ definitely didn't like being told "NO". And I've heard this from MULTIPLE people who was around MJ.
BUT, I want people to try and understand from Michaels POV.
And smokey alluded to this,
Since being a young child, Michael NEVER had full control of his life.
Between Motown/Berry Gordy, Hollywood business, and his father Joseph-- Michael was ALWAYS told what to DO, what to SAY, what NOT to do and what NOT to say....since the age of 5. There were plenty of these people telling him No, dont to this and that.
and some of that included normal kid stuff...that they said he couldnt be apart of because he was now a big commodity for alot of these money hungry Hollywood people.
He never had any say in his own life.
So when he was finally able to break free, he wanted full control of his life. He was tired of people telling him what to do and what he couldnt do.
Now I'm not saying he didn't make some bad choices, but imagine being told what to do well into your adult life and not being able to make decisions for yourself??
Unfortunately he made Alot of bad decisions and distanced himself some of those people he NEEDED to hear 'NO' from...but can you blame him...?
MJ being robbed of a normal childhood, in addition to the 'abuse' he suffered as a child really had its effect on him.
Mike was too sensitive and not mentally ready for alot of that stuff he went throught at that early of an age. But he was tough....make no mistake about it.
Any other person woulda 'self deleted' as they say....
Michael was definitely wired different.
You GET IT! Thank you!
A 5 year old needs to be told what to do.
@@joyell821
Sure, but eventually that stops and the boy starts to make his own choices....
That wasn't the case for Michael...
And being in the Hollywood life, you are bombarded with people you don't even know controlling your life.
What to wear, what to say In interviews, you can't go here, you can't play outside, etc...
You can't be a normal kid. This happened to Michael well into his early adult years...
This Was Spot on!! 👏🏾
As he kept saying on Glenda tapes "Let me make my own mistakes"
Even though Smokey said he and Michael hadn't talked in years before his death you can tell that bond wasn't broken and Smokey loved him forever, he spoke about Michael as if that was his own son that tough love he had for Michael in his voice. We all need a ol school take no mess father/grandfather like him.
they went thru things that only a select few went thru and could understand: Motown in its glory days.
I said d same ting to people around me about the PepsiCo but I wil addl extra a. Few cover ups are in Michael j death the doctor know a few things and other people Michael was murder
idk, maybe its cuz they knew each other personally,
but they dont defend and hype up MJ the way he should be. Only person who does that is perhaps Prince Jackson, and Taj Jackson
That’s because MJ is his real son…
@@ItsBerg I thought _Pharrell_ was his real son 🙄
Michael Jackson and Kobe Bryant's passing I will never get over...
Get over it ,,, they,, don't,,know you,,,,
@@willielynchjr9912 you must have little dick syndrome.
@@willielynchjr9912 hater who’s gonna know? I clearly don’t 🤣
Kobe and Gianna were hard to get over
That part
This man has outlived a LOT of the giants in the entertainment industry and lives to tell the tale. What a life!
This has to be the most real take on Michael on the internet. Not burying him just keeping it real. You can see in his eyes that he truly and genuinely cared for Michael and is sad to see what became of Michael.
Lisa Marie Presley {RIP to her too) said the exact same thing. That MJ would ice out anyone who didn't enable him, but people attacked her for it.
I truly feel for this man. He has seen so many of his closest peers come and go over the years, some I’m sure he didn’t expect to outlive.
Yeah cause all the original members of the miracles gone except him and his ex wife. Aretha gone, Marvin gone, almost all the temptations, MJ. Its crazy
@@josiahmitchell8594 exactly, there's literally no one else left. It seems that the loss of Marvin and MJ hit him the hardest for some reason though. He broke down and cried after he found out they both passed away.
@@kennardojames2504 he wished he'd known of Marvin's dad troubles and that MJ hadn't of shunned him.
@@josiahmitchell8594 yes. He thinks he may have been able to help the both of them. I honestly think both were too far gone though.
❤️
Greatest respect for Smokey Robinson. He just confirmed what Stephanie Mills said about Michael. She said they dated briefly but she was too dark and opinionated for the Handlers he had. She said she would always be honest with MJ and remind him not to lose who he truly was. He stopped speaking to her because she became a No person just like Smokey hinted at. But she said he was always down to earth with her when they we're younger. They do their laundry together. Just laugh and talk. Wish he had kept her and Smokey around. Good interview.👏👏👏
Excellent Point.....it would have done wonders for MJ if he kept Stephanie, Smokey, and Berry Gordy around!!
I never listen to the ex woman
What did the “handlers” have to do with that? Sounds more like Michael made his choice and he chose to surround himself with spineless, viper azz yes-men. Actions have consequences. 🤷🏾♀️
I always thought that MJ and Brooke Shields made a nice couple.
Stephanie began to said that only around BLM emerged. Before that she said MJ wasn't ready for marriage when she plainly asked him if he would marry her. I don't trust people, who change their stories. Neither should you.
Smokey took care of himself an still here to tell his story . Glad to hear it
As bad as Michael's body dysmorphia and panic attacks are and should be highlighted in the fight for mental health, drug addiction is a whole 'nother animal with very serious physical implications. After that Pepsi accident, Michael started looking more for pharmaceutical escapes and that was vicious all the way til the end
"Escapes" is the word. Him and quite a few others were escaping with drugs. It's a dead end. I mean if the problem was REALLY sleep - you can hire a sleep therapist to help you. A nurse who worked for him said she begged him to stop, and get some real help. But she was just a worker...
Whole “nother” level, “til” the end? Man, you’re a dummy.
that is not true and this myth was created by the media after mJ died. MJ was not addicted to anything before the 1993 scalp surgery. It was that not the burn itself that lead to chronic pain because he developed neuroma. Google it what that means. I don't blame him for taking painkillers for that shit
@@oskartgrouch8757 no, MJ had refractory insomnia. You can get any sleep therapist you want , there is no cure. He would have died from sleep deprivation sooner or later.
@@oskartgrouch8757 Yea she tried to warn him about propofol but he was adamant that he was safe as long as he was being monitored. He trusted the doctor with his life. AEG were putting insane pressure on them both, though
Smokey is definitely a real one, a true friend will always keep it 💯 no matter if you're wrong or right.... Vlad definitely one of your best interviews yet!!! ✊🏾
This man is not lying. It makes sense. I love MJ, but I do believe that's why MJ cut a lot of people off. He wanted people around him that will never tell him no. Honestly that's what he needed! RIP. We miss you MJ!
which is natural, we all as humans want to be told yes all the time. its human nature, he just needed someone to talk to him
@@JoshuaLaGuardia-uw6jk believe it or not smokey is mj’s dad
believe it or not smokey is mj’s dad
You gotta love (and appreciate) Mr. Robinson's keen insight, thoughtful commentary and rare candor. The man "knows!" Do you hear me?
Absolutely!!!! We don't see men like this anymore. This is the kind of man that does not play!
Smokey is sharp for an old man! He spoke the truth. Propofol is a helluva drug
Smokey will be 83 this month.
You're only as old as you feel!
Ew, Tupac
@@tedreynolds6363 true that Ted...there is this classical music conductor/Band leader. still going strong conducting at 93.
Kind of sounds like some Rich James craziness. Michael brought himself a doctor who would do whatever he wanted. The doctor threw the hippocratic oath out the window. Michael should have been in therapy for his sleep problems, not being doped up and given heavy narcotics, plus Anesthesia night after night. That was crazy.
Wow…Smokey’s explanation is eye opening.🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Yes it is... You were sharp enough to read between the lines there
Smokey KNOWS the truth
Wow to finally find out what Michael went through health wise the pain that he endured and the surgery he had to have on his head is insane.
Words cannot describe how wonderful it is to just watch and listen to Smokey. Men from his era were just so damn manly, cool, and confident. I'm making a pot of red beans and just want to offer him a bowl! Makes me miss my Dad and great uncles who have passed on 🥰
Smokey is a real one. I shattered my ankle in 2021. The doctors had to stabilize my ankle and put it in a cast while I waited for surgery. They warned me I would be getting propofol. Smokey’s descriptions spot on. I freaking turned my head and looked back and the cast was on. Apparently some time went by. Michael had that regularly? Wow 😮
This man needs a biopic
Most definitely
Yep
Definitely
Certainly. A UK content creator called Craig Mitch should play him (even though Craig is not an actor). Lol😂
@@scratchydemus the dude that looks like Jayson Tatum??
My 24 year old niece & her 1 year old baby know who Michael Jackson is,like every generation know his music
Smokey definitely saw Michael as a nephew or another son I think all of the Motown legends still around would say the same I saw an interview with Martha Reeves and she also referred to Michael as that little boy
More like a "SON".
It all makes sense now. I always wondered why nobody was telling MJ not to do certain things, but he distanced himself from them. He surrounded him self with people that would say yes to everything he said or wanted.
When you the bank that they depend upon? Advice not given unless you careless about your financial plight.
MJ had serious trust issues and for a reason. Fsme brought many fake people around him and he couldn't tell who to trust. The Glenda tapes are very tell-taling. He keeps telling Glenda how he can't tell who to trust. Even with women his main issue is trust and not love. Before everything he had to knoe if he can trust a woman. No wonder he let Lisa Marie go after he found out she lied to him. She broke rule No1 with MJ. No matter hoe mich they loved each other, the thing was over becasue of lack of trust.
I remember one of his brothers saying they had to set an appointment to be able to talk to him smh.
@@AntTurnerMJ had a schedule.. why would that be unusual?
@@globalcitizenn He was at home and his brother was outside the house!! Do you even have a family? That's a stupid question.
I feel like the pepsi commercial completely changed the direction of where Michael was going. I think he would still have been incredible and I think he wouldn't have had so many mental health issues where he would still be here.
He never stopped being incredible, but I get what you're saying. I think he would have been happier and would have had a somewhat more normal life, if you can call it that. The Pepsi incident, losing Diana Ross, along with the added pressures of staying on top, maintaining a brand, taking care of people that depend on you, all while having zero anonymity... When we think about it, most people wouldn't have lasted as long as he did. Who else having ever lived, can say they experienced what he did to the degree in which he did?
@@SimplyBeingTT Exactly as you just said none of us could handle the life mj had so this high and mighty attitude that people have about him needs to stop
@@treysalmon640 Facts
@@SimplyBeingTT Don't forget those terrible false allegations he went through
@@jaamal6369yea i tell people all the time that pepsi commercial instead was really the catalyst to him passing 25 years later
Smokey Robinson telling the truth 💯🙏🏿🙌🏿
He’s absolutely right, about the addiction starting in ‘84, when he burnt his hair. Because after that, he was relying on pills and anaesthesia, to the point where it killed him. And when you have power and money, no one can tell you ‘no’. Mj abused that power and it got the best of him.
But rip Mike, the greatest ever.
Correct.👏
Tho, he didn't have an addiction in 84, that's just when he started to take those kinda drugs to help with the burn and he was taking them as prescribed.
He got addicted later on. I'd say after the first accusations.
I get tired of clowns saying it was "Sony" or some illuminati...🙄🤡
Michael was ultimately responsible for his own fate.
Same with Elvis, Prince, Whitney, 2pac and Soo many others
I heard he was already doing drugs even before that. At Studio 54.
@@joyell821
That's a lie. And I know where you heard that. Dudes lying.
Michael was clean as a whistle during that time.
Drugs was a definite NO. Especially illegal drugs.
@@Akumaten1 yeah during that time he was a devoted Jehovah’s Witness, that boy wouldn’t even fw groupies and girlfriends.
No it did not start till 93 as anybody who was around at the time will tell you.
Smokey is right about Michael but most children and youth who have that type of stardom become spoiled like that because their emotional growth is interrupted by the catchings of fame. He was a sweet and generous soul. He was severely injured in the fire on the Pepsi commercial shoot but did you eventhough he was severely injured and in pain he had to finish that commercial a few days later? I know they hopped him up on those deep drugs to get him back out there.
The same with whitney and prince
Kanye even mentioned this about himself during one of the online interviews he did towards the end of the year. Said he had stopped maturing/growing emotionally, and probably devolved as well, once he was a big enough star to just get everything he wanted without a chance of hearing "no".
These interviews with Smoky are awesome!! Shedding light on a lot of stuff!!
The real ones know the real when it comes to MJ. That damn Pepsi commercial
The Pepsi incident, losing Diana Ross, along with the added pressures of staying on top, maintaining a brand, taking care of people that depend on you, all while having zero anonymity... When we think about it, most people wouldn't have lasted as long as he did. Who else having ever lived, can say they experienced what he did to the degree in which he did?
Exactly. Imagine being one of the most famous people since before your tenth birthday.
@@chancebrown106 Exactly. As part of the Jackson 5 he experienced it, but he had his brothers to experience that with. Thriller though... took him to a whole other level that his brothers nor any other superstar, past, present, or future will ever experience. AND, he went through that by himself. That's isolating...almost like solitary confinement in a sense. Not even Paul McCartney, Diana Ross, Janet Jackson, etc know what it's like to not be able to go anywhere without causing melee every single time. Then having that much power and talent, there was always people that wanted or needed something from him. He had very few he could trust, or with whom he could just simply be. That's why he enjoyed the company of children. It was innocent and gave him a sense of normality.
Must have been the loneliest thing to experience something NOBODY experiences, had eyperineved and will experience. And to be surrounded by people who can't wait to sell stories about you.
❤️❤️❤️THIS!!!!
Whitney was similar. Sad, both of them 😢
So glad Smokey Robinson is still with us, he's a gem. I don't think that Michael Jackson the person was in his head for many years. "yes men" ruined him. Science doesn't even know exactly how brain trauma and anesthesia works, no one should be messing around with it. They ruined and ultimately killed a global treasure.
Believe it or not Smokey is Michaels father
Smokey Robinson Is The Realest. The Man Is True And Doesn't Try To Cover Up For Nobody, Not Even Himself 👍🏽
I never knew that Pepsi commercial accident was that serious that Mike needed a plate put in his skull. That plus the constant migraines would explain a lot
Insightful! Interesting, hearing his perspective about MJ!!!
This was a very interesting piece of information. Never heard anyone go into detail like this in any other interview.
Condolences to Mike. The abuse and all the recovery wasn't enough. People couldn't understand, but I feel like as time passed he did his best to settle. From the litigation to the purchase of masters of fellow artists to even touring due to appreciation of the investment of himself. Thriller still touches different. Almost comparable to M. Knight Sham's IT. Rest in power and peace.
People don't realize how much he appreciated Mr. Robinson.
rest in piss nonce
@@LUCIAFROMGTA you're not conquering anything with this comment. Go listen to something hateful...that way you can construct in a better way.
M. Knight Shymalan
Wow. At 55 I had Colon problems and got a Colonoscopy. My first time going under. I was in good health, but heart decease ran in the family. They gave me Propephol too. Best sleep I ever had, but when I woke up, 3 Dr.s and a couple Nurses were around me saying whew, There he his. They said that I didn't want to come back out of it. After that, no more Propephol for me.
R.I.P to the King of pop! Gone but never forgotten
Smokey intelligent and still got a lot left in the tank I'll keep my grandma away from him 😁😁
Good Luck With That Lmao 😂
If your grandma thick, keep her away from me as well!!!
I worked at Veterinary hospitals for about 27 years and I used to administer Propofol to the animals..This drug has to be done in a hospital setting, not in a house..It can cause the patient to stop breathing, but it's ok if you're in a hospital..The Doctor should never have given Michael Jackson Propofol at home SMH
Ard bro....Its time to drop the whole interview now no cap, ive watched every snippet for like 2wks straight now bro
smokey is a beast on the music scene...
Smokey aging like fine wine. We all love and miss Michael and wish someone had told him NO 😢
VLAD! You done outdid yourself with these Smokey Robinson interviews! Thank you Smokey! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
"I remember when I first shook Smokey Robinson's hand. It was like shaking hands with a king. My eyes lit up with stars, and I remember telling my mother that his hand felt as if it was layered with soft pillows. You don't think about the little impressions people walk away with when you're a star yourself, but the fans do. At least, I know I did. I mean, I walked around saying, 'His hand is /so soft/.' When I think about it now, it sounds silly, but it made a big impression on me. I had shaken Smokey Robinson's hand." -- Micheal Jackson, on his early memories of Motown, from his autobiography "Moon Walk" (1988)
Smokey is right about Michael Jackson only surrounding himself with yes people. It even caused the riff with his sister, Janet, and they had been close. She spoke about it in her documentary. It's sad, but Michael's end came to him because of himself. Smokey is also right about Elvis. That is the one thing that I wish they had expressed more in the movie. Elvis only wanted people around him who did exactly what he said, and that's why he died from that combination of drugs and bad dieting.
Interesting that Joan Rivers who joked about it, died of Propofol in a medical setting.
Yh the Elvis movie was good but it avoided exploring his addictions. Why do films do that...the Whitney Houston film also neglected discussing her obvious drug problem too.
Same thing with Prince and Whitney
Yes.
As a huge MJfan. You are correct.
The 3 responsible for MJs death:
3. The Media
2. Conrad Murray
1. Michael Jackson...
@@Akumaten1 I highly disagree. That case with Murray was a disaster. The prosecutors were more worried about their reputation and career than doing the case as it should. The invetigators were beside themselves the prosecutors didn't go for 2nd degree mudrer. If you listen to Judge Pastor's closing speech he literally said Murray's act was way beyond involuntary manslaughter, the judge basically apologized he can't sentence Murray for more than 4 years, because law doesn't let him to. The expert witnesses simply spit on Murray. Amazing testimones, btw.
So let's not follow the media narrative in this. There is one person responsible for MJs death and that's Conrad Murray and him alone.
Smokey keeping it all the way 100.
Everything coming from Smokey Robinson and Barry Gordy is genuine because these two men are the only ones in the industry that really knew him and can explain what was going on. Michael was like family to them.
Yeah, his hair caught on fire 🔥 😢😢😢
Rest In Power Michael.
It’s not hard to see why he needed surgery, 👁️ had no idea the plate in his head was giving him that much pain.
He spun around and fell
The part where he fell down the stairs was a dramatization from the Jackson’s American Dream movie. In real life he just spun around and fell. The actual footage is here on RUclips
@@danimalwonderpants2123 I have no idea why they had him tumble and roll down the stairs like that 😩when MJ didn’t even realize his hair was on fire until he got to the bottom of the stairs
@@taylorwaylor8965 Hollywood taking something already dramatic and making it even more so 😂
@@danimalwonderpants2123 and the gag is the Jackson family (Jermaine 😂)produced it!😂Michael was probably mad as hell lol
Maaaan, when he said “Michael who” I laughed. Then I instantly stopped. Bc I had the same reaction. You just didn’t want to believe it. So your asking who, when deep down you just knew and then your body comes to the realization 😢
That smokey referred to Michael as that boy let's you know he always see him as that little boy he first met
that "Michael who?!" cracked me up at the end
The whole convo with his wife had me dying 😂😂
I did a little time in Los Angeles county jail, and I remember this young black kid used to tap the side of his head really fast everytime he heard “Michael Jackson’s voice”
He danced and did all these nice moves in front of all of us at the pod we were housed at. This was 11’-12’
Good times.
Smokey still looks & sounds wonderful!! He's a literal legend, I hope he knows how much we all love & appreciate him ❤️
Honesty... He confirms things Michael's family has said..
The family & friends have tried numerous times since the 90s to get Michael some help with his addiction he went to rehab, that’s why he canceled the rest of Dangerous tour, Lisa Marie tried to help Michael but he pushed her & that led to on & off relationship for 4 years after they divorced, when you into the 00s from 00-4 Michael using & you can tell by his eyes & how he looks like he’s not there just watch 30th anniversary special you can tell & Lisa Marie pointed out in the documentary Martin Bashir did he was on something by the way he would respond to songs either he was to fast or slow, then left America he was fine but when he got back to America that’s when it got bad again
Randy Jackson said that they tried on at least 7 occasions to make MJ go to rehab and he refused so those in the know, knew he might have died at any time of an overdose. His security or handlers called a former nurse about a week before he died to ask her what to do because he was hot on one side of his body and cold on the other and she told them to take him to the hospital because his central nervous system was shutting down. MJ had a lot of issues (psychological and physical) but refused to see those who cared enough to help him. He was a sad, sad man which is so ironic because his talents made all of us so happy.
@@beyourself2444 the toxicology doesn't support this theory at all. We only know Murray's version and he lied his a$$ off about MJ.
@@tykelwilliams6053 however Lisa saying MJ pushed her away because of drugs isn't true. She said the reason of their break-up was because of differences between them about having a child. Which MJs version confirms (Shmuley-tapes), that he got rid of Lisa becauae she lied to him for a whole year about taking the pill. Though it broke his heart, he lost trust in her.
Smokey is a Real Friend to have in your Corner.
MJ (greatest pop star of all time)
Greatest star of all time
Mike couldn't tote princes hair spray
You're right... Prince is the greatest pop star
@@Jcrash71 prince was a rock star
MJ doesn't have shit on Prince or Elton John
I had propofol as part of a medical procedure. Best 1.5 hours of sleep I’ve ever had in my life. I swear I woke up feeling like I sleep for 8 hours. I can see how someone with sleeping problems could get addicted to it.
100%, I've had a colonoscopy and they gave me propofol and I remember the anesthesiologist telling me "ok just relax we're about to start" and in 3 to 4 seconds I was out and waking up in the other room. I felt so rested after lol, i agree the best sleep I ever had.
Born in '91 (my bday is Aug. 29th so I do share that with MJ) so obviously I wasn't around for the Pepsi fire and whatnot. However, from the countless documentaries, specials, biopics, interviews, etc. I wager one of MANY reasons that Michael 'divorced' himself from his family was due to the fire. Think about it, he wanted to go solo before age 18. His mother said in one interview that MJ may want to go solo because he doesn't need his brothers, but his brothers need him.
I don't know the exact details of course, but based on The American Dream biopic, MJ didn't want to do the Pepsi run with The Jacksons post-Motown 25. Heck, the Victory Tour is what prevented him from doing a Thriller tour. Putting his family ahead of his own wants is what lead to his hair catching fire and well I sure as heck wouldn't want to be the family breadwinner if it almost killed me...I think that was when he first started getting drawn (I don't wanna say addicted) to the usage of pills to ease whatever pain or whatnot he was experiencing later in life.
Died on my birthday
You were born right when dangerous came out which has always been my fav MJ album 💯
Very insightful response. This man is extremely sharp for his age
Man yall acting like Smokey a 100 years old or something lol. He's 82
this man is one of the nicest people in the world
U need some one to say “No”💯🙏🏽😔🔋
Smokey so smooth I give you flowers 💐 for all you've done
I love how mentality sharp he still is at his age
When he left us. Life was officially over. It’s still heartbreaking.💔
WTF??? 😮
I believe the part about Michael cutting people off who don’t see eye to eye with him. All respect to Mike, I love him with all my heart. He liked yes people around because of his upbringing, he was in a strict, abusive and over controlled environment. When he broke free on his own he never wanted to be controlled again. He liked having his way because of that. Its a psychological thing.
Although I appreciate and AGREE with the honesty of the elder, Smokey.....Vladimir is very manipulative and loves to take shots at Black icons. I'll NEVER forget Vladimir's incessant attacks on Michael, in 2019....during the "Leaving Neverland" propaganda. Once he sees the tide turning, Vladimir tries to praise Michael, again. Then he flips, again. Yuk.
Lmao Jackson was the most obvious pedophile, perhaps of all time.
Vlad from what I see is pretty fair. He might change his opinions based on new information. It’s not fair to go back into somebody’s past and ridicule them for opinions they had. People grow and change every single day. I can bet that most of your opinions aren’t constant either. It’s a fact of life. Calling him Vladimir to be condescending is yuk to me…
@@AntsDrone OH, PUH-LEEZE🙄 YOU (and most of your generation) are gullible and quick to comply. Vladimir is a very manipulative opportunist and it has NOTHING to do with his "evolution". Michael Jackson isn't the only Black icon he's trashed. Nor, is it the only propaganda he consciously, aggressively pushed via this platform to his majority Black audience. Typical Ashkenazi: exploit Black culture and emotions ( nostalgia via our icons )....while injecting their propaganda and politics.
VLADimir's marriage and reproducing with/lusting for a Black woman means nothing, to me. He needs to constantly control Black/mixed men ....even in his personal life. This does not affect his power dynamic. Typical Ashkenazi. VLADIMIR. His name. He's Generation X and so am I. And I don't just b_tch on the internet. I've taught and mentored kids (now men and women), since 1999. I don't hide in anonymity. I know your young ego will force you to reply (and others after you). *I WILL NOT READ, OR REPLY TO YOU, OR ANYONE ELSE ON THIS THREAD. SO, YOUR REPLY WILL BE USELESS. BUT, I KNOW YOUR EGO CAN'T RESIST*
The more we listen the better we’ll understand how serious the fire accident was. Michael had 3rd degree burns, a plate, and when they released the autopsy information if I remember correctly it was said he was completely bald at the time of his death. And it also said he had scars on his legs consistent with those suffering from vitiligo. So imagine growing up in the spotlight where everyone payed so much attention to your looks.
That's not quite the case (him being fully bald). However the autopsy mentioned over 10 cuts (from surgeries) on the top of his head. While there were only 2-2 cuts by the side of his nostrils... (which means only 2 plastic surgeries on thr nose)
Not true at all, Michael's autopsy stated he had about 2 to 3 inches of short curly hair underneath his wig. He was not bald, which Latoya also confirmed as she had to go with authorities to watch them remove hair from Michael's deceased body. Michael also did not have any plate in his head, he had surgery to repair his burned scalp which his own hair eventually grew over it. Patches of his hair started to fall out from lupus which led to the wigs,but he was not bald.
Damn this guy came in and said it how it is. But still so respectful and classy!
Oh man, I didn't know the pepsi burn was that bad, oh my god
Smokey is a real one!
Smokey is on point, MJ had a bunch of yes men around him. His music, appearance and life suffered because of that
So did Prince, Elvis, Whitney and etc. Not a shock
@@kellyjones5509not so much with prince when you have chronic pain you take the meds your body gets used to it and the pain remains prince didn't have a choice michael had chronic pain from his back as well, every mega star has yes men around them
Even though I love Michael Jackson don't get me wrong
But it's obvious that he was incredibly hard headed and was surrounded by yes men and enablers.
Anybody who REALLY cared about him and cared enough would've told him that the drugs, the plastic surgeries, and honestly? Even though I believe he's innocent, having sleepovers with kids wasn't smart.
Somebody should've really got on his head and maybe he'd still be here today.
Smokey is Michael’s real father
Agree with all you've said here. 💯
I’ve said that before to people… the domino effect that hair fire accident is so sad… from the prescription to MJ meeting Arnie Kline in the doctor the started giving MJ so many pills and also talking into more plastic surgery to keep his pockets full… MJ’s mother said it in an interview about the Arnie not having his best interest when it came to surgeries
I cried when dmx died so many people Hadda close connection with X R.I.P brother rest in power ❤️🙏
SIR MICHAEL JACKSON knew His worth👑💨
Smokey is MJs dad
Best interview yet
All respect to Smokey, but I couldn't speak so definitively about someone I hadn't spoken to in years. There are a lot of reasons why Michael wasn't in contact with people like his family. A lot of people were attempting to eat off Michael and he became very paranoid of people's intentions as time went on. His own family didn't always have his best interest at heart either. It's the sad truth. It was part of the price of his level of fame tbh. It's depressing to think about, but then we wouldn't have the musical landscape we have now without him and everything he did. Please believe if he listened to his dad and Berry and them, we wouldn't have Thriller, and that opened the door, especially for black artists of the 80s up to now. It quite frankly saved the record industry from going bust at that time.
Price of Fame should have been released it foreshadowed too much
Spot on! Ppl have no idea when it comes to mj and Motown, ppl just assume they had his best interest because of the optics! I love motown, so much I know the history, Mj lived life longer than most of the tragic stars at that label, they backstabbed each other CONSTANTLY(the temptations movie shows this!) how is that any better than the mainstream pop world? Mj couldn't trust NOBODY from the jump because he was the cash cow, it's REALLY not his fault nobody black or white ever got hysterical reactions off their talent like him, he couldn't relate to NO ONE
Damn it hit different coming from Smokey bro frfr. This is someone word I can accept ❤
The real Michael Jackson died when he did that Pepsi commercial
Smokey iS an inspiration he has many many years of recovery! he doesn't' seem to age either.
I think the Pepsi situation started it but the allegations intensified it, especially the second one, he looked soulless after the second allegations and trial in 2005
I agree with you. I was happy with the second verdict....but when I saw him walk out of that courtroom looking all gaunt and all drained - I knew his life would never be the same. Sad.
That is the TRUTH!!! When he got burned filming that commercial, that started the lifelong addiction to pain medication. That Dr. Conrad, found out on that day in 2009. He should have gotten more years in prison..smh.
Propofol is powerful af… had that for knee surgery and I was told I was so asleep, and wouldn’t wake up post surgery that they (Dr/Nurses) were getting worried… I will say tho, that was some of the best sleep I ever had…
It really IS some good sleep lol. I understand why MJ wanted to sleep like that everyday. But on the other hand, it's supposed to be administered in a medical setting - not in your private bedroom. I wish he got proper treatment for his insomnia
@@yen9149 agreed… and me too…
A real friend always tell the truth about his friends
MJ excluding people who said no was part of why and how he broke so many boundaries in music and life. to him there was nothing that was unachievable, he even had plans to moonwalk on the moon
I want to look as young as smoky when I hit 82. Mans is in good shape, and mind is still spry.
This is why men need women as they provide balance and keep us from becoming our own enemy
Man this is the interview we want real musical legends
Smokey is real........
Smokey wrote such amazing witty songs
I don’t know what they’re talmbout. When I “awoke” from being under anesthesia, I was so freakin’ tired! I had to be at the hospital at like 5am so I didn’t get any sleep the night before thinking I’d get my rest being under anesthesia. WRONG! I went to the hospital tired and when I left later that afternoon I was EXHAUSTED. Being under anesthesia is _not_ the same thing as sleep; genuine rest. 🤷🏾♀️
Correct
Anesthesia is considered general anesthesia. Not as potent as propofol
@@Jiron127 Nope, it _was_ Propofol because I saw that name on the IV bag and was kinda tripping out a lil bit. I even joked with the nurse saying I didn’t want to go out like Michael Jackson. And like I said, I “awoke” from anesthesia (Propofol) and was more tired than when I went under. 🤷🏾♀️
Smokey keeps it real
Having too many ‘yes men’ was MJ’s downfall, Smh
Facts
Mik did what he had to do that's why he is standing so high he's well to do had to be done it was only jelesy ,hate greed lefe they kiled him
Lisa marie presley said the exact same thing on her oprah interview back in 2010. She said he was surrounded by too many yes men and called them vampires