How ignorant the host is! He asked how General Giap can be compared to Napoleon if he is so "ruthless" as though Napoleon was some kind of angel from heaven. Napoleon was himself a ruthless military strategist and dictator. He should have asked how General Giap can be compared to Napoleon when Giap was not as ruthless as Napoleon was.
Typical racist imperialist angloid. "why was he so ruthless in sacrificing his lives" as americans bomb places like Korea, Laos, and Cambodia into oblivion it's easy to see why they were willing to sacrifice their lives.
Well Napoleon did lose a lot of men, but I think Napoleon was probably on a similar, or less 'ruthless' man. He tended to never waste lives if he could help it and generally fought battles with limited casualities. His major losses of manpower came more from partisan action and logistics issues than from battles specifically.
Napoleon won the most battles in history and is generally considered to be the greatest military commander of all times (or at least on the podium). So put some respect on his name (not to mention, he fought other great commanders, such as Wellington, Blucher, Kutuzov, who are considered to be amongst the best as well, whereas Giap never fought generals of such a caliber). Then, if you look at the casualties (with all due respect to Nguyen Giap), the Vietnamese general took huge casualties compared to the ones he inflicted. Look at Napoleon's campaigns: he is often outnumbered yet wins in crushing fashion (ex: Austerlitz: he had 65k men against 85k opponents, he had 7k casualties yet inflicted 36k casualties on his opponents. Similar stats can be seen at Jena, Friedland, Marengo, Lodi...). Conclusion? You can't compare both men: completely different contexts and eras. By the way, there's something called WAR (Wins Above Ranking), which compares generals across eras: Napoleon comes first by far. By the 18th century's standards, not only was Napoleon not ruthless, he was very generous, close to his soldiers and had a lot of empathy for the defeated and civilians. Refrain yourself from posting about Napoleon when you clearly don't know the man.
Why are we calling him Red Napoleon when Giap was in the business or defending his country and independence from French colonial rule and Napoleon was for colonial conquest? There is no comparison. Again, we fall into the mistake of seeing success in war as who killed the most. We have lost our humanity ever since WW2.
Also, General Giap is the one who first started the guerilla war tactics that saved his soldiers' lives by using small and mobile forces against large and unwieldy ones. Whatever people say, General Giap is ultimately the undefeated military commander in the world. He won every single war he either directly or indirectly involved with, not to mention his outliving all of his enemies.
Can you imagine CNN having a conversation about the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and blaming the Jewish rebel leaders for their "callousness" in "throwing bodies" at the Germans?
One of the US’s mistakes was quantifying the war’s success with death counts. Sure the US had 58k killed in the Vietnam war vs 4m+ Vietnamese but each villager they killed whether intentionally or unintentionally just created more willing to house and join the VC and NVA to avenge their family.
Sacrificing a bunch of men for the country to then fall into the hands of a corrupt, authoritarian regime for nearly half a century deserves little respect.
The biggest loss for not only Vietnamese but worldwide. I, you and We. Deeply appreciate what he has done for the country, for the Republic!!! I am a Vietnamese. Can't control my tears for him! Rest In Peace!!! THE GREATEST GENERAL!!!!
Giap and his soldiers defeated 3 global powers with next to no industrial base to work from and a significant portion of his country working as collaborators. The number of military commanders who fought and won against such long odds could literally be counted on one hand. Caesar, Hannibal, Yi Sun Shin. That’s the level he was on.
How the interviewer gave questions already showed that he would never ever understand why General Giap is a legend. Even if the Americans had a chance to throw 10 times more people into the war but without the determination, they would still never win. It's the DETERMINATION OF THE PEOPLE THAT WINS.
General Giap didn't sacrify millions of Vietnamese for conquering the super powers of the world, we the Vietnamese United to fight against any foreign Invaders. It's in our ancestor's blood, had passed down to us. I wish that the host read the Vietnamese history before the broadcast. Peace!
Did they literally just say it was mindless and callous for Giap to defend against French colonial slavery and US genocidal invasion? Did they literally blame the invaded country who "threw bodies" at the US and French, as if Giap was killing Vietnamese people and not the Imperialist French and US? The US imperialist is as depraved as any in Nazi Germany.
I'm from Vietnam, we just want to live in peace, a world we hope is a world where people of all languages can love each other. I don't like gunshots, it will take many unwanted lives
Exactly 👍 Vietnamese people don't have any hostility towards America . Once they left Vietnam , everything was forgotten . Today Vietnam and America have good relations
What kind of questions when he said "threw bodies" or "bloody mind"? It was the own willing of the soldiers leaving their home for the battle. Looking back, what do we Vietnamese have? We had nothing but resources from people. If we hadn't sacrificed ourselves, who on earth would have saved us from the force of France and US?
"We can put the past behind. But we cannot completely forget it" Vo Nguyen Giap. As a son of a NVA's soldier, also a grandson of one, I understand your lost and pain of losing friends. I heard it and felt that pain from my family since I was young. We are at the difference sides of a table in the past. Now, let choose somewhere else more comfort to sit shall we?
Let me know a military or political genius who ISN'T ruthless. It wasn't that he 'just threw bodies'; it was that he was able to train peasants...it wasn't just 'getting them on his side' ; he had to train peasants in short order to operate as disciplined soldiers--men AND women; to defeat three empires (the brief border skirmish vs. the Chinese in '79). Limited resources, and as someone else commented, no industrial base, or real weaponry. His genius is in the fact that he did NOT come from a military background--he was a lawyer and political scientist, a lecturer at the uni. So not only did he build a military that defeated these empires, he truly built it from scratch and defeated military leaders who had a lifetime of experience and almost endless resources.
Giap was a historic teacher and he would be a normal teacher if the French an American had never came to Vietnam and messed up everything. A president boomed a country with no reason couldn’t be call ruthless so why the host could ask that such a stupid question? That is how the US being more ridiculous, day by day, they get into a new level of it.
Yeah, a lot of people are still swayed by the deep propaganda of the 1960-80s. But considering we now have the internet and global platforms like RUclips that grant us access to information like never before, the realities of the Vietnam war will eventually supersede the narratives of the propaganda stained media and mindset of the West.
Why is he a 20th century military genius? Simple. He traded bloody stones for territory. He traded the present for his country's future. He used the only means he had against highly "superior" forces. While a protracted and bloody war is the least strategic option, it is the lesser evil when the alternative is the end of the existence of his state is at risk. He and his people knew that is the price they had to pay while their enemies know that a mere setback would not really threaten the lives of their family or people. It is ruthless but it was a fact that he had to face at the time.
There is no doubt Giap was the most outstanding General of modern age.Its wrong to pick up holes in his superiority There was no comparison between Giaps peasant army and fun loving Anericsns and French used to taking soldiering as frivockingky
American always said that the Gen won because he threw millions of his men into battle field to be slaughtered. But totaling all of the American soldiers in all wars which the US took part in, what is the number of dead? Then, what did US government do to their men?
This is why CNN is fake news - completely dumb and ignorant reporters who have no idea that they are talking about, but feeling smug as if they were experts on he issue...
I don't know what your profession is but there'r lots of things you don't know. This is our history. Never being said publicly but we VNese have informally but widely agreed with each other that Tet Offensive was not commanded by our General Giap who even opposed to this attack idea. Why...? Dont ask! Tet Offensive might be considered a lose in strategy, MIGHT BE. But paradoxically, it raised vast political activities in US and all over the world which played important role in the final victory.
Dù cuộc sống của chúng tôi nghèo khổ về vật chất nhưng trong con người chúng tôi luôn tồn tại tình yêu Quê Hương, Đất Nước, Con Người Việt Nam. TÔI YÊU VIỆT NAM
There were many groups fighting the colonist included Can Vuong(Aid to the King), National Party of VN(VNQDD),the Army For National Restoration (Phuc Quoc Quan),Indochine Communist Party (ICP) and many additional groups from the South Hoa Hao, Cao Dai.. and some of these groups later merged to form Viet Minh, and why did ICP try to purge all other group leaders out of Viet Minh in 1947 under auspices of the French Union? The question should be "Why did HCM accept the Geneva Accord conditions?"
Vietnamese history is intriguing. If foreign invaders had carefully studied it, they wouldn’t have invaded Vietnam. The Mongol Conquest!The Mongol Empire conquered most of Asia & Eastern Europe by 14th century. Mongol raids & invasions were some of the deadliest conflicts in human history spreading terror & panic everywhere on a scale never seen before. They totally conquered China and Persia, but the undefeated Mongols met defeat in Vietnam under Hung Dao, a Vietnamese military genius like Giap
I see. But you should know Vietnam during 1945 - 1979. It's at peak glory and almost no corruption. I agree Vietnam today is full of corruption. That also why people mourning for General Giap. An glory period just end for Vietnam.
Our General Giap set all battles to break will of enemies, not aim killing their bodies and it called art of combat. There was other talent commander Nguyen Chi Thanh, but Le Duan was very bad as he was so impatient for victory caused massive death. Therefore, someone must study before call Vo Nguyen Giap ruthless commander. We all love him deep down inside, not only like Hero, but also like family member.
Name of Vo Nguyen Giap shakes the world again. Some hundred thousand people queuing to pay respect to him recent days. Bad leaders have been accusing by popularity.
General Vo Nguyen Giap who is the last hero left after liberation and unification in Vietnam still be shining example for future generations of Vietnamese.
America and France (also the host) are overly proud of their firepower, that they can destroy Vietnam easily. But when it comes to war, the smarter is the one with little resource at their disposal, and can use their Mind and Strategies to defeat their enemies. For those who think that America didn't lose, they just withdrew their troop from Vietnam, when you couldn't fulfill your agenda when you invaded another country and have to withdraw, which means you lost.
@Ning Shan Forget about Cici Le's comment. Before accusing General Giap of committing atrocities against civilians (by the way which civilians you are talking about? My Lai civilian?), what do you know about General Giap and Vietnam?
There is 90,3 million Vietnamese citizens, ofc there are poor ppl as well. Yes they're happy with their life and the majority of Vietnamese citizens are happy with their life. Being a beggar is also a job. At least they're not jobless which is worst! Next time, go ask them ''Do u happy with ur life overall'', I bet most of them will said yes. As happiness is not always abt money!!DUH !
Sacrificing one generation for the future generations is the right thing to do. That was exactly what the American did in 1930s, and the Japanese did in 1950s. When it comes to our independence and freedom, nothing is granted for free.
People respect the man as the greatest army talent who led Vietnam army win both strongest invaders, then learn him how to live over 100 years old, and how to live simple life as he was not greedy like others in this country nowadays caused full of chaos
Whatever people say or think about Bác. I really dont care and can not bother me, the representative of young generation of Vietnam, who will always love & give highest respect to you, Bác Võ Nguyên Giáp.
CNN anchor man should learn the definition of the word "strategy" first to stand there discussing about one of the greatest was strategist of all times later.
Why don't you check what kind of freedom which HCM promised to give in his 1945 Proclamation of Independence? And it is hard to deny that freedom is proportional to the GDP, Education, Health and environment compared between other ASEAN countries with Vietnam. Don't you agree?
What reliable sources do I have? Here they are: the battle of Dien Bien Phu in 1954, the Saigon Battle in 1975 and the undefeated military commander, General Giap. This page you and I are currently on, is one of my sources. Get it.
The plodding American careerists who passed as military officers back then, more concerned about promotions and pensions than victory, were no match for Giap. He knew that a war was not a step on a career ladder, but a desperate struggle for life and death.
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Hey guys. I'm VNmese and living in VN now (not foreigner or any VN young ppl living in or out of the country who love blaming VN ppl, even their parents 8-}). Honestly enough, though I have never "actually suffered" anything from it, I dont like our country regime. I dont like it, BUT I respect Mr. Giap. Conflicting?! Nope. He deserves it. An oldman with huge knowledge (sure, who deny?), with achievements (yep), and more important, he had his ideal to attribute his life to (what's wrong?).
It was not a stupid question made by cnn representative, it was just a silly question from a person have never been in Vietnam war, and not a historical expert, that's why he asked and learned from someone who really did some researches.
Vietnam has experienced a long time war. The time for its development is still short: Trade embargo removed in1994, entered WTO in 2006. I do not mean the current regime & party are very good, but they must change, the sooner the better. It takes some generations of both people & leadership to develop. All isms are only grey theory, while the life is still green; green like tree, every society is growing, changing all the time. “Put your heart on the line if you want to get it right”.
@vinhtvp Tôi nghĩ bạn biết tiếng Việt. Xin lỗi nhưng điều tôi thấy " bạn thật sự ngu ngốc và thất bại ", Mĩ rất tốt nhưng tôi rất tiếc nếu được lựa chọn nơi chôn cất hãy nhớ rằng " tôi sẽ chết ở Việt Nam và là quê hương tôi ". Bạn có chê trách như thế nào thì điều đó chẳng bao giờ thay đổi. Tôi cũng biết đất nước có nhiều điều chưa tốt nhưng tôi hiểu vì sao, thay vì chê trách tôi hy vọng mình có thể góp một phần nhỏ để thay đổi. Một phần nào đó như Bác Hồ,Cụ Giap những anh hùng dân tộc vì TỰ DO.
oh yes, another thing why we're suffering comparing to Canada, Vietnam's population is 3 times greater but out land is 30 times smaller than Canada's. imagine living like that, would u be able to live??? classes are tiny and there are like 60 kids in there (at least pre high school); traffic jam everyday, every hour since the roads and streets and everything our TINY comparing to the population
Besides a sharp increase in numbers of people suffering cancers; many young people in Vietnam are discovered to suffer osteoarthritis, which normally occurs at the old age destroying their cartilages and render them disable and have to consume large amount of pain killers. This disease is chiefly brought about by the abuse of using growth hormones in food processing - You may again ask for the proof, then you may find it out from the Vietnamese Official media on the internet
I saw him more of a Vietnamese Ulysses S. Grant. They both were brilliant tacticians, could fight a total war no matter what the cost and knew how to wear down their enemies even if it did mean a horrifying war of attrition that saw many losses
It is not simply if I could pray. It takes a long time & non-stop campaign that must go along economic growth; not do something like movement for one time and drop; build awareness of whole society & nationwide network for control of people; improve effectiveness of the Laws; sign int’l cooperation against crime including corruption…
As the general, command in chief of the army why didn't Vo Nguyen Giap do anything about Le Duan's impatience, and so, as a "presumed" genius commander he should also have not underestimated the mighty of the US military that induced a massive death, as a "presumed" brilliant strategist he should have known that relying on China support would render Vietnam become a vassal of China as Vietnam had experienced in the past
Actually most people in the states are pretty nice. You would find Mr. Smith, khan, Gonzales in the states and they would all be proud Americans too. Of course there will always be some racists, but you can find those everywhere. I know what this country stands for and our values are strong, so I'm not ashamed of being an American. We're not perfect but I do the best we can to help people. that is all.
"WE don't eat poison from China", tell that to the people who are among those of not 10 times but hundred of times increase in the number of people suffering cancers in the cancer wards spread across the various hospitals in the country "Happiness is something that most of us Vietnamese have", tell that to the general secretary Nguyen Phu Trong, whose close speech of the last meeting of Party Central Committee stated that the chasm of rich and poor is threatening to the survival of the regime
OMG! Wikipedia? You must be kidding. Everybody can log in wiki and edit everything. Also, I did mention the full name of Vietnam is the Socialist Republic of Vietnam NOT the Communist Vietnam. Probably, you might have eye problems. Need some eyeglasses? By now, we all know Communism an Socialism are totally different. Vietnam is still Socialist as defined by its full name; it's not a Communist country yet. It might be on its way, but there's been no signs of it becoming one. This makes sense?
I do not have any illusion on replacing regime or party in VN. That is all names by my own opinion. Many ppl think of development like South Korea if VN became the U.S. colony under capitalism. Think over & over what the main cause of development if not human. Besides Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea, try to compare Philippines, India to understand than sit around and imagine. For VN people who live in developed capitalism what you contribute to development there & gain respect of local people.
Did you forget the U.S. pull out in 1973? by 1975, the South had limited support, U.S. Congress refused to vote for funding and aid, while the North still had support from the Soviet. Do you seriously think the NVA could have succeed without the help of the Soviet?
i don't think it his fault for the u.s involved in our war i mean i don't like communist but it not your war i really show my respect for those fallen American but if you want to blame somebody blame the u.s politic
Do you think the poor people of Vietnam are happy? the orphans on the street selling lottery tickets are happy? the old people that go out on the street of Saigon begging for money are happy? My heart breaks everytime I go back and visit and I see the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.
Well, do you understand what you just wrote? George Bernard Shaw, a playwright is not a politician, but Lenin is. In short, Socialism is different from Communism. They are not the same. That's what I meant.
@GDTQ nice one, so you have nothing better to say than to criticizing my English? I can write in whatever language I want. I'm a proud American, I do not live in Vietnam so why should I write in Vietnamese? Why are you people even responding to my comment in the first place? I commented on the video at first, if you want to comment on the video then comment, just leave me out of it.
The war was no longer between Communism vs Capitalism. It is more about Vietnamese vs the ppl who tried to kill more Vietnamese!!!! If you're Vietnamese, pls don't forgot ''Chat doc mau da cam'' Thank you! Vietnamese , we are one! As also the reason why we only have 1 star on our flag!
So the Nazi party can control the country as long as people have jobs right? if you want to be a slave to your party then go ahead. The truth of the matter is that you have one party controlling everything. Your government needs to free all the political prisoners. I never criticized the Vietnamese people. I only criticize your government. Vietnam needs to have an open and free election that let the people choose their own leaders. The communist party decides everything in Vietnam.
The point is that war itself is ruthless, each side goes to its extreme, winners have things to blame and losers do have points to be appraised. It's hard to say. Think hard enough, if you r in the war. Plz dont say you'll sob and surrender if you shoot one rival. VN ppl died a lot, that's true and painful, but who know, if Mr. Giap never did accept sacrifice, we might have lost 25 mil, or, none of us can ever log on to youtube and say such things :v Be fair if you dont know and dont see :))
It's not very realistic to assume you can win against a vastly technologically superior military without taking massive casualties even if you are a brilliant general.
How ignorant the host is! He asked how General Giap can be compared to Napoleon if he is so "ruthless" as though Napoleon was some kind of angel from heaven. Napoleon was himself a ruthless military strategist and dictator. He should have asked how General Giap can be compared to Napoleon when Giap was not as ruthless as Napoleon was.
Typical American . Ignorant and arrogant!
Typical racist imperialist angloid. "why was he so ruthless in sacrificing his lives" as americans bomb places like Korea, Laos, and Cambodia into oblivion it's easy to see why they were willing to sacrifice their lives.
Well Napoleon did lose a lot of men, but I think Napoleon was probably on a similar, or less 'ruthless' man. He tended to never waste lives if he could help it and generally fought battles with limited casualities. His major losses of manpower came more from partisan action and logistics issues than from battles specifically.
Napoleon won the most battles in history and is generally considered to be the greatest military commander of all times (or at least on the podium). So put some respect on his name (not to mention, he fought other great commanders, such as Wellington, Blucher, Kutuzov, who are considered to be amongst the best as well, whereas Giap never fought generals of such a caliber). Then, if you look at the casualties (with all due respect to Nguyen Giap), the Vietnamese general took huge casualties compared to the ones he inflicted. Look at Napoleon's campaigns: he is often outnumbered yet wins in crushing fashion (ex: Austerlitz: he had 65k men against 85k opponents, he had 7k casualties yet inflicted 36k casualties on his opponents. Similar stats can be seen at Jena, Friedland, Marengo, Lodi...). Conclusion? You can't compare both men: completely different contexts and eras. By the way, there's something called WAR (Wins Above Ranking), which compares generals across eras: Napoleon comes first by far. By the 18th century's standards, not only was Napoleon not ruthless, he was very generous, close to his soldiers and had a lot of empathy for the defeated and civilians. Refrain yourself from posting about Napoleon when you clearly don't know the man.
Why are we calling him Red Napoleon when Giap was in the business or defending his country and independence from French colonial rule and Napoleon was for colonial conquest? There is no comparison. Again, we fall into the mistake of seeing success in war as who killed the most. We have lost our humanity ever since WW2.
Also, General Giap is the one who first started the guerilla war tactics that saved his soldiers' lives by using small and mobile forces against large and unwieldy ones.
Whatever people say, General Giap is ultimately the undefeated military commander in the world. He won every single war he either directly or indirectly involved with, not to mention his outliving all of his enemies.
"Wow, he really threw bodies at us" is a weird way to say "wow, we really massacred a lot of Vietnamese peasants"
He hit my Fist with his Head
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imperialist violence is always the fault of the colonized
Can you imagine CNN having a conversation about the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and blaming the Jewish rebel leaders for their "callousness" in "throwing bodies" at the Germans?
@@brettjones8678 say that to the chinese who had to put up with Japan's bullshit
One of the US’s mistakes was quantifying the war’s success with death counts. Sure the US had 58k killed in the Vietnam war vs 4m+ Vietnamese but each villager they killed whether intentionally or unintentionally just created more willing to house and join the VC and NVA to avenge their family.
the CNN guy should show some respect
Sacrificing a bunch of men for the country to then fall into the hands of a corrupt, authoritarian regime for nearly half a century deserves little respect.
@@thevannmann he wouldn't need to sacrafice them if their lives were going to be taken by ameri-mutts
@@thevannmann look at Vietnam now, look how our economy is doing, how well we are fighting the pandemic. You'll have to eat those words my friend.
@@lehuy7306 Are you kidding me? 50 years' goal? is that so?
@@thevannmann stop talking shit about things you don't know, fucktard
The biggest loss for not only Vietnamese but worldwide. I, you and We. Deeply appreciate what he has done for the country, for the Republic!!!
I am a Vietnamese. Can't control my tears for him!
Rest In Peace!!!
THE GREATEST GENERAL!!!!
He is a Hero to people around the world.
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He was one of the top ten generals of the 20th century.
+Max Caplan correct. he was an excellent tactian without question, just like ernesto guevara
Not of the 20th century actually of ALL time
@@juanagosto3428 ACTUALLY!!!
Vo Nguyen Giap was the only one most powerful person in history!
Who said that?
he beat china ,france , america
Giap and his soldiers defeated 3 global powers with next to no industrial base to work from and a significant portion of his country working as collaborators.
The number of military commanders who fought and won against such long odds could literally be counted on one hand.
Caesar, Hannibal, Yi Sun Shin. That’s the level he was on.
attaturk even crazier
Four actually. China in the late 70s.
4 nation
Giap didn't sacrifice anyone , the Vietnamese people are willing to lay their lives on the line for their country.
How the interviewer gave questions already showed that he would never ever understand why General Giap is a legend. Even if the Americans had a chance to throw 10 times more people into the war but without the determination, they would still never win. It's the DETERMINATION OF THE PEOPLE THAT WINS.
Gen. Giap was an excellent tactician without question.
@Hissam Ullah Taliban spent less than Gap and got more
@@bacho1404 cái tên này, cái avatar này, cái bình luận, cái sự cay cú này..
@@hopha1403 lũ 3/ đây kệ đi bác 😂
General Giap didn't sacrify millions of Vietnamese for conquering the super powers of the world, we the Vietnamese United to fight against any foreign Invaders. It's in our ancestor's blood, had passed down to us. I wish that the host read the Vietnamese history before the broadcast. Peace!
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Please. Let him rest in peace. We all have to bow before this wonderful man.
"We"? You means the Vietcong?
@@tuanz8009 he means me as well and your future Grandkids, if you and your kids survive global warming that is
@@tuanz8009he means your parent, kid. If he didnt lead VPA to win against French, even your parent couldnt exist. Go home and learn
Is that the way the US use to share the lost with Vietnamese?!
How kind !!
Feeling extremely acrimonious for those considered as intellectuals!
Did they literally just say it was mindless and callous for Giap to defend against French colonial slavery and US genocidal invasion? Did they literally blame the invaded country who "threw bodies" at the US and French, as if Giap was killing Vietnamese people and not the Imperialist French and US?
The US imperialist is as depraved as any in Nazi Germany.
Yes, they do it everyday. I have to say that they are quite good at blaming the victims and brainwashing their people.
I'm from Vietnam, we just want to live in peace, a world we hope is a world where people of all languages can love each other.
I don't like gunshots, it will take many unwanted lives
Exactly 👍
Vietnamese people don't have any hostility towards America .
Once they left Vietnam , everything was forgotten .
Today Vietnam and America have good relations
What kind of questions when he said "threw bodies" or "bloody mind"? It was the own willing of the soldiers leaving their home for the battle. Looking back, what do we Vietnamese have? We had nothing but resources from people. If we hadn't sacrificed ourselves, who on earth would have saved us from the force of France and US?
the usa will never understand! and they are making the same mistake over and over again everywhere on earth!
"We can put the past behind. But we cannot completely forget it" Vo Nguyen Giap. As a son of a NVA's soldier, also a grandson of one, I understand your lost and pain of losing friends. I heard it and felt that pain from my family since I was young. We are at the difference sides of a table in the past. Now, let choose somewhere else more comfort to sit shall we?
Glory to General Vo Nguyen Giap and his winner against imperialism for socialism!
Greetings from Italy!
Let me know a military or political genius who ISN'T ruthless. It wasn't that he 'just threw bodies'; it was that he was able to train peasants...it wasn't just 'getting them on his side' ; he had to train peasants in short order to operate as disciplined soldiers--men AND women; to defeat three empires (the brief border skirmish vs. the Chinese in '79). Limited resources, and as someone else commented, no industrial base, or real weaponry. His genius is in the fact that he did NOT come from a military background--he was a lawyer and political scientist, a lecturer at the uni. So not only did he build a military that defeated these empires, he truly built it from scratch and defeated military leaders who had a lifetime of experience and almost endless resources.
I've already cried 2 days from his death
Giap was a historic teacher and he would be a normal teacher if the French an American had never came to Vietnam and messed up everything. A president boomed a country with no reason couldn’t be call ruthless so why the host could ask that such a stupid question? That is how the US being more ridiculous, day by day, they get into a new level of it.
Yeah, a lot of people are still swayed by the deep propaganda of the 1960-80s. But considering we now have the internet and global platforms like RUclips that grant us access to information like never before, the realities of the Vietnam war will eventually supersede the narratives of the propaganda stained media and mindset of the West.
Why is he a 20th century military genius?
Simple. He traded bloody stones for territory. He traded the present for his country's future. He used the only means he had against highly "superior" forces. While a protracted and bloody war is the least strategic option, it is the lesser evil when the alternative is the end of the existence of his state is at risk. He and his people knew that is the price they had to pay while their enemies know that a mere setback would not really threaten the lives of their family or people. It is ruthless but it was a fact that he had to face at the time.
There is no doubt Giap was the most outstanding General of modern age.Its wrong to pick up holes in his superiority There was no comparison between Giaps peasant army and fun loving Anericsns and French used to taking soldiering as frivockingky
American always said that the Gen won because he threw millions of his men into battle field to be slaughtered. But totaling all of the American soldiers in all wars which the US took part in, what is the number of dead?
Then, what did US government do to their men?
Why is he so bad ass he simply listened to Sun Tzu teachings.
this CNN report tried to show he knew something but he knew none... a joke
This is why CNN is fake news - completely dumb and ignorant reporters who have no idea that they are talking about, but feeling smug as if they were experts on he issue...
Fredrik Logevall he really understand both side. my best historian so far
vo giap el genio militar del siglo xx,
despues de el ya se puede hablar de maistein, zhukov, patton y motgomery
I don't know what your profession is but there'r lots of things you don't know. This is our history. Never being said publicly but we VNese have informally but widely agreed with each other that Tet Offensive was not commanded by our General Giap who even opposed to this attack idea. Why...? Dont ask!
Tet Offensive might be considered a lose in strategy, MIGHT BE. But paradoxically, it raised vast political activities in US and all over the world which played important role in the final victory.
Dù cuộc sống của chúng tôi nghèo khổ về vật chất nhưng trong con người chúng tôi luôn tồn tại tình yêu Quê Hương, Đất Nước, Con Người Việt Nam. TÔI YÊU VIỆT NAM
Thankyou sir !
I love how they try to pull out the old "asiatic horde" myth.
Make sure we love to live in peace with all countries, first our neighbors in common development
There were many groups fighting the colonist included Can Vuong(Aid to the King), National Party of VN(VNQDD),the Army For National Restoration (Phuc Quoc Quan),Indochine Communist Party (ICP) and many additional groups from the South Hoa Hao, Cao Dai.. and some of these groups later merged to form Viet Minh, and why did ICP try to purge all other group leaders out of Viet Minh in 1947 under auspices of the French Union?
The question should be "Why did HCM accept the Geneva Accord conditions?"
Vietnamese history is intriguing. If foreign invaders had carefully studied it, they wouldn’t have invaded Vietnam. The Mongol Conquest!The Mongol Empire conquered most of Asia & Eastern Europe by 14th century. Mongol raids & invasions were some of the deadliest conflicts in human history spreading terror & panic everywhere on a scale never seen before. They totally conquered China and Persia, but the undefeated Mongols met defeat in Vietnam under Hung Dao, a Vietnamese military genius like Giap
I see. But you should know Vietnam during 1945 - 1979. It's at peak glory and almost no corruption. I agree Vietnam today is full of corruption. That also why people mourning for General Giap. An glory period just end for Vietnam.
the "2.5 million" number is CIVILIANS the US/ARVN murdered, not soldiers of PAVN/NLF.
Like i said. Winners don’t talk about the war. Losers do.
My country, glory Vietnam!
Our General Giap set all battles to break will of enemies, not aim killing their bodies and it called art of combat. There was other talent commander Nguyen Chi Thanh, but Le Duan was very bad as he was so impatient for victory caused massive death. Therefore, someone must study before call Vo Nguyen Giap ruthless commander. We all love him deep down inside, not only like Hero, but also like family member.
Rest in Peace forever
As you are
General of Peace
Name of Vo Nguyen Giap shakes the world again. Some hundred thousand people queuing to pay respect to him recent days. Bad leaders have been accusing by popularity.
General Vo Nguyen Giap who is the last hero left after liberation and unification in Vietnam still be shining example for future generations of Vietnamese.
America and France (also the host) are overly proud of their firepower, that they can destroy Vietnam easily. But when it comes to war, the smarter is the one with little resource at their disposal, and can use their Mind and Strategies to defeat their enemies. For those who think that America didn't lose, they just withdrew their troop from Vietnam, when you couldn't fulfill your agenda when you invaded another country and have to withdraw, which means you lost.
Think of peace more than oneself, everyone
@Ning Shan
Forget about Cici Le's comment.
Before accusing General Giap of committing atrocities against civilians (by the way which civilians you are talking about? My Lai civilian?), what do you know about General Giap and Vietnam?
ASEAN countries worry about tense situation raising by China, we are still in economic difficulty
fun fact, USA was the biggest financier for French during that time, what a true "police" of the world (loves to sell weapon too)
Hardly live with such neighbor
There is 90,3 million Vietnamese citizens, ofc there are poor ppl as well. Yes they're happy with their life and the majority of Vietnamese citizens are happy with their life. Being a beggar is also a job. At least they're not jobless which is worst! Next time, go ask them ''Do u happy with ur life overall'', I bet most of them will said yes. As happiness is not always abt money!!DUH !
who is the host, anyone know his name?
Sacrificing one generation for the future generations is the right thing to do.
That was exactly what the American did in 1930s, and the Japanese did in 1950s.
When it comes to our independence and freedom, nothing is granted for free.
People respect the man as the greatest army talent who led Vietnam army win both strongest invaders, then learn him how to live over 100 years old, and how to live simple life as he was not greedy like others in this country nowadays caused full of chaos
Whatever people say or think about Bác. I really dont care and can not bother me, the representative of young generation of Vietnam, who will always love & give highest respect to you, Bác Võ Nguyên Giáp.
CNN anchor man should learn the definition of the word "strategy" first to stand there discussing about one of the greatest was strategist of all times later.
I am glad that you asked me if I had been out there supporting the poor. Truly, you don't know me at all. At all!
Why don't you check what kind of freedom which HCM promised to give in his 1945 Proclamation of Independence? And it is hard to deny that freedom is proportional to the GDP, Education, Health and environment compared between other ASEAN countries with Vietnam. Don't you agree?
Does anyone have sub this video? Thanks :)
What reliable sources do I have? Here they are: the battle of Dien Bien Phu in 1954, the Saigon Battle in 1975 and the undefeated military commander, General Giap. This page you and I are currently on, is one of my sources. Get it.
The plodding American careerists who passed as military officers back then, more concerned about promotions and pensions than victory, were no match for Giap. He knew that a war was not a step on a career ladder, but a desperate struggle for life and death.
Do you know the immense network of connecting underground Cu Chi tunnels is about 156 miles (250 kilometers) long, all done by hand for about 20 years? Confront your own Claustrophobia in the Cu Chi Tunnels, Vietnam
Do you know Ho Chi Minh Trail, over 1,800 miles (2,900 kilometers) long, is considered one of the great achievements of military engineering of the 20th century by the US National Security Agency's official history of the war? Come to Vietnam and experience its intriguing history.
really, like you now
Hey guys. I'm VNmese and living in VN now (not foreigner or any VN young ppl living in or out of the country who love blaming VN ppl, even their parents 8-}). Honestly enough, though I have never "actually suffered" anything from it, I dont like our country regime. I dont like it, BUT I respect Mr. Giap. Conflicting?! Nope. He deserves it. An oldman with huge knowledge (sure, who deny?), with achievements (yep), and more important, he had his ideal to attribute his life to (what's wrong?).
Threw bodies? Personal feeling into the interview questions.
"Absolute power corrupts absolutely", learn that then you will stop praying and find out the way to stop the corruption in Vietnam
It was not a stupid question made by cnn representative, it was just a silly question from a person have never been in Vietnam war, and not a historical expert, that's why he asked and learned from someone who really did some researches.
Vietnam has experienced a long time war. The time for its development is still short: Trade embargo removed in1994, entered WTO in 2006. I do not mean the current regime & party are very good, but they must change, the sooner the better. It takes some generations of both people & leadership to develop. All isms are only grey theory, while the life is still green; green like tree, every society is growing, changing all the time. “Put your heart on the line if you want to get it right”.
THE GREATEST GENERAL !!!
OMG SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME!
@vinhtvp Tôi nghĩ bạn biết tiếng Việt. Xin lỗi nhưng điều tôi thấy " bạn thật sự ngu ngốc và thất bại ", Mĩ rất tốt nhưng tôi rất tiếc nếu được lựa chọn nơi chôn cất hãy nhớ rằng " tôi sẽ chết ở Việt Nam và là quê hương tôi ". Bạn có chê trách như thế nào thì điều đó chẳng bao giờ thay đổi. Tôi cũng biết đất nước có nhiều điều chưa tốt nhưng tôi hiểu vì sao, thay vì chê trách tôi hy vọng mình có thể góp một phần nhỏ để thay đổi. Một phần nào đó như Bác Hồ,Cụ Giap những anh hùng dân tộc vì TỰ DO.
oh yes, another thing why we're suffering
comparing to Canada, Vietnam's population is 3 times greater
but out land is 30 times smaller than Canada's.
imagine living like that, would u be able to live???
classes are tiny and there are like 60 kids in there (at least pre high school); traffic jam everyday, every hour since the roads and streets and everything our TINY comparing to the population
Besides a sharp increase in numbers of people suffering cancers; many young people in Vietnam are discovered to suffer osteoarthritis, which normally occurs at the old age destroying their cartilages and render them disable and have to consume large amount of pain killers. This disease is chiefly brought about by the abuse of using growth hormones in food processing - You may again ask for the proof, then you may find it out from the Vietnamese Official media on the internet
I saw him more of a Vietnamese Ulysses S. Grant. They both were brilliant tacticians, could fight a total war no matter what the cost and knew how to wear down their enemies even if it did mean a horrifying war of attrition that saw many losses
It is not simply if I could pray. It takes a long time & non-stop campaign that must go along economic growth; not do something like movement for one time and drop; build awareness of whole society & nationwide network for control of people; improve effectiveness of the Laws; sign int’l cooperation against crime including corruption…
It is as same for others countries as well, countries Africa need Visa to immigrate, some countries in EU need Visa and student Visa aswell! duh!!
As the general, command in chief of the army why didn't Vo Nguyen Giap do anything about Le Duan's impatience, and so, as a "presumed" genius commander he should also have not underestimated the mighty of the US military that induced a massive death, as a "presumed" brilliant strategist he should have known that relying on China support would render Vietnam become a vassal of China as Vietnam had experienced in the past
Hero
Actually most people in the states are pretty nice. You would find Mr. Smith, khan, Gonzales in the states and they would all be proud Americans too. Of course there will always be some racists, but you can find those everywhere. I know what this country stands for and our values are strong, so I'm not ashamed of being an American. We're not perfect but I do the best we can to help people. that is all.
CNN is often asking ibas and unthoughtful questions. America is always GREAT to them.
"WE don't eat poison from China", tell that to the people who are among those of not 10 times but hundred of times increase in the number of people suffering cancers in the cancer wards spread across the various hospitals in the country
"Happiness is something that most of us Vietnamese have", tell that to the general secretary Nguyen Phu Trong, whose close speech of the last meeting of Party Central Committee stated that the chasm of rich and poor is threatening to the survival of the regime
OMG! Wikipedia? You must be kidding. Everybody can log in wiki and edit everything. Also, I did mention the full name of Vietnam is the Socialist Republic of Vietnam NOT the Communist Vietnam. Probably, you might have eye problems. Need some eyeglasses? By now, we all know Communism an Socialism are totally different. Vietnam is still Socialist as defined by its full name; it's not a Communist country yet. It might be on its way, but there's been no signs of it becoming one. This makes sense?
I do not have any illusion on replacing regime or party in VN. That is all names by my own opinion. Many ppl think of development like South Korea if VN became the U.S. colony under capitalism. Think over & over what the main cause of development if not human. Besides Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea, try to compare Philippines, India to understand than sit around and imagine. For VN people who live in developed capitalism what you contribute to development there & gain respect of local people.
Did you forget the U.S. pull out in 1973? by 1975, the South had limited support, U.S. Congress refused to vote for funding and aid, while the North still had support from the Soviet. Do you seriously think the NVA could have succeed without the help of the Soviet?
i don't think it his fault for the u.s involved in our war i mean i don't like communist but it not your war i really show my respect for those fallen American but if you want to blame somebody blame the u.s politic
Do you think the poor people of Vietnam are happy? the orphans on the street selling lottery tickets are happy? the old people that go out on the street of Saigon begging for money are happy? My heart breaks everytime I go back and visit and I see the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.
Well, do you understand what you just wrote?
George Bernard Shaw, a playwright is not a politician, but Lenin is. In short, Socialism is different from Communism. They are not the same. That's what I meant.
Uhm... It sound like happened every where on this planed.
Singapore would be a nice place to live.
don't want to war here. just only an interview and own opinion of them
@GDTQ nice one, so you have nothing better to say than to criticizing my English? I can write in whatever language I want. I'm a proud American, I do not live in Vietnam so why should I write in Vietnamese? Why are you people even responding to my comment in the first place? I commented on the video at first, if you want to comment on the video then comment, just leave me out of it.
Good for you @setdownon left, you live in a democracy, you should be thankful, lots of people in Vietnam are suffering. God Save the Queen!
The cost? Freedom mean everything, you ask but because you scare. Freedom mean everything, and even cost triple more, we will fight!
The war was no longer between Communism vs Capitalism. It is more about Vietnamese vs the ppl who tried to kill more Vietnamese!!!! If you're Vietnamese, pls don't forgot ''Chat doc mau da cam'' Thank you! Vietnamese , we are one! As also the reason why we only have 1 star on our flag!
Go figure out it yourself. I bet KAIST has huge library :3
So the Nazi party can control the country as long as people have jobs right? if you want to be a slave to your party then go ahead. The truth of the matter is that you have one party controlling everything. Your government needs to free all the political prisoners. I never criticized the Vietnamese people. I only criticize your government. Vietnam needs to have an open and free election that let the people choose their own leaders. The communist party decides everything in Vietnam.
The point is that war itself is ruthless, each side goes to its extreme, winners have things to blame and losers do have points to be appraised. It's hard to say. Think hard enough, if you r in the war. Plz dont say you'll sob and surrender if you shoot one rival. VN ppl died a lot, that's true and painful, but who know, if Mr. Giap never did accept sacrifice, we might have lost 25 mil, or, none of us can ever log on to youtube and say such things :v Be fair if you dont know and dont see :))
Len CNN luon moi chiu
It's not very realistic to assume you can win against a vastly technologically superior military without taking massive casualties even if you are a brilliant general.
"Socialism is the better word for Communism" stated by George Bernard Shaw and "The goal of socialism is communism" stated by Vladimir Lenin
you can talk all you want, you know damn well as I do that most people would love to move to the U.S. to live if they had a chance.