I was so "???" about the Mondriches in part 1. Then when I started part 2, I thought "Oh! I get it, Will's struggle to give up the bar as a symbol for the security he built in exchange for the happiness of his new situation parallels Penelope being unable to give up Whistledown, which is how she had agency when she felt powerless." AND THEN THEY DIDN'T PARALLEL IT AT ALLLLLL
@@no.6377yep. They don’t even have a connection with ANY of the main cast. They spoke to Benedict once. He’s served them at the bar?? I mean does that count as a relationship? I don’t think my local barista is my friend so I doubt you think your bartender is your friend (I don’t drink!). If they made them friendly with SOMEONE more than a single convo it could’ve been interesting. Idk. I’d rather have Penelope and Francesca become friends than deal with this random family from season 1
@@saveme-j9p owning a gentleman’s club wasn’t even frowned upon back then the whole story was stupid. They are boring. Find a way to involve them in the plot or drop them. I’m holding out hope Simon returns in season 4 since he hasn’t had any success.
@@Zelda00Gamer they were supposed to be Simons friends but honestly they should've been written off when Rege Jean left the show. Maybe keep them for daphnie's sake in season 2 but this season? Completely unnecessary. Like be gone already.
The reason I was upset with Francesca's storyline is precisely because if I ever fall in love, I could see myself having the quiet sweet kind of love she did than the dramatic stories the other couples had. Not everyone finds or wants toxic, dramatic love. I adored her and John, they were the best part of Part 1 and most of part 2 for me. By hinting Francesca was attracted to Michela from the get-go, it negates her and John's story's core theme of appreciating the quiet love. She literally got married to John a few days ago and the way she reacted after their wedding kiss was so bad, she looked so disappointed. In the books, theres no doubt Francesca loved John romantically. She just discovers that love can be different with different people but that doesnt diminish what she and John had. Its a beautiful story of grief and second chances in a very mature way. Its horrible that they messed it up. Also hers is the only book I've read so this makes it double worse.
Yesss I was surprised to see the face she made at the wedding kiss because she did genuinely love John and was attracted to him! No idea why they changed it, I feel like it negates all the lessons she taught Violet about how even though she loves differently and less passionately it doesn’t make that love any less meaningful. As someone who more drawn to quiet types as well I really identified with that!
Agreed! It doesn’t matter man or woman, what matters is that now it looks like she’s not really in love with John when she is! Or at least was supposed to be ☹️
The new show runner identifies with Francesca and it clearly clouded her judgement this season and she also apparently has no idea what people might find attractive in a leading man since they butchered Colin’s character and made him such a substancesless idiot.
@@jeanetteking434 Why did they get a new showrunner again? What was wrong with the one who did Season 1 and 2? Either way, after this disappointing season, it looks like it'll carry over to the new ones, I'm out. They always got to ruin a good thing with showrunners/directors' stupid vision or interpretation. *When you source from a book directly and not just inspired with a built-in fanbase, don't f*ck with the formula, you dumbasses. Sure -- tweak stuff to accommodate time, streaming constraints, but for the love of God, stop fucking with the actual PLOT LINES/ARC DEVELOPMENT!*
They did not put enough effort in season 3. The actors did well, but they didn’t have a lot to work with regarding their roles. The fact that people hate lady whistledown could’ve been seriously useful for the show instead of what we got
@@netflixpartyyYou can definitely tell too. IMO most of the stories you see feel unfulfilled: Benedict’s lacked actual character development, Eloise backslides but isn’t called out on it, Pen self depreciates and undermines all the good Whistledown has done, Colin actually had character development but had out of character scenes, Kate actually had something interesting going on with her seeming to not want to end the honeymoon but they just chuck that conflict out the window? Then there’s the dialogue. It’s like…where’s Pt. 1 writer at? Because none of the lines are hitting as heavy. This was just a mess, and that’s coming from someone that put much stock into a lot of peoples pt1 complaints
@@illenagus the costumes were horrific. Hunger games and 2010’s makeup. I also hated Penelope’s 40’s hairstyle or whatever it was. Her dresses were beautiful at least
This season NEEDED flashbacks especially a flashback of Pen and Colin first meeting. They’re supposed to be childhood friends but we did not see any of the childhood😪
All the other seasons could stand alone, like we didn't need other seasons to understand who the main characters were. but for this season they were relying on everyone watching the other 2 seasons and expecting that to be enough build up😢 I don't know Colin at all or their connection. Flashbacks would have been wonderful!
I agree!!! The first time I watched Season 3 I was underwhelmed. UNTILLLLL, I rewatched season 1 and 2 focusing on Colin and Penelope and let me tell you... it made this season soooooo beautiful. I totally loved it. But I totally understand why others may feel otherwise 😊
this is a great point. I also think they focused way too much on everyone else and less on colin and pen which caused me to be less invested into their story. I feel as though i've learned more about the side character than the two main
@likhwezititus is not about the actor is about the personification of Colin's character, he looked out of Bridgerton Is a shame because he was so charismatic the previous seasons, except the time he was talking about Pen (which he never apologizes for)
@@18Aleziitathis! I really thought he was great in previous seasons and this time there was a big disconnect. He looked a part of the time period before, now he looks like he owns a smartphone..
Omg what annoyed me was eloise saying Cressida was doing it for attention WHEN CRESSIDA LITERALLY TOLD HER WHAT WAS GOING ON AND SHE REFUSED TO HELP Like wtf, were we not meant to feel bad for Cressida
omg yesss, I was so diappointed when Eloise ditched her (despite the fact that she knew Cressida wasn't the real lady Whistledown and only did it to get out of her horrible situation.. and when the sent her to live with her mean aunt in Wales, I was furious, like all of this redemption arc for what?????
And she is supposed to be a proto feminist like Yeah Tell me something more believable 😐 Also asking Penelope to cut out LW just because there is all about rumours when she never asked why Pen is so attached to that character, she never asked Pen about her family and is oblivious to all bullying she was receiving from her mom and sisters. If they are going to the feminist route with Eloise she has to change 180 degrees
Yeah I'm baffled with how Cressida's story was handled in this season. Like they give her extremely sympathetic and understandable motivations. Everything she does is a desperate cry for help. She even begs for Eloise's help. No one listens or cares and the narrative treats her like a villain. It's so bizarre to me.
@@fionagallagherapologist5968 I love Eloise but wow that sucks. Idk what's going on with writers' room. The quality in this season is poor. They flesh out Cressida to be not just this cutout villain but ofc we were meant to see her as villain again it sucks. The same way people like the Francesca introverted love only to turn out to be like comphet lol
justice was not done to the polins. colin was boring, Penelope's only relationship that interested me was the one with Eloise (love their development this season)
im SO mad because they cut some of the best scenes that would’ve made polin season. like they literally cut a scene where polin was laying in bed and talking about publishing colins manuscript. (Edit: this has seemingly been debunked by Nicola)
AGREED. I was sitting there rolling my eyes each time polin got on the screen only because there was just nothing really gripping about their interactions for me 😔
simone was asked in an interview that a lot of fans want to see more kanthony and she said that kanthony deserve a spin off!!! and that she would love to do it, we actually have hope!!! 🥹
I hate this relationship because of the show but reading the lovely it’s way better and they don’t play edwinsa like a dumb girl… she immediately knows that Kate loves Anthony and says okay…bye. So I like them because of the book kitty he show.
omg yessss that would be so cool, i do want a time skip tho so we can have them parenting and we can see the funny sassy kids we know they’re going to have
I don't like to be too critical when it comes to shows, unless it's a serious matter of disrespect or misrepresentation, I just think of the hard work and the time that was invested into the show. However, this season, specifically the ending, did not feel fulfilling for the characters. Daphne and Simon had that deep, intimate moment in the rain, followed by the birth of their baby. Simon and Kate had that BEAUTIFUL moment under the fireworks (still gives me chills), and we get a glimpse into their married life. It just made sense, Daphne and Simon having a baby and being content with that, and Anthony and Kate having a full-circle moment playing pall mall. This season, the ball was beautiful, but it didn't feel too intimate or special. Maybe it wasn't as impactful because the couple lacked scenes throughout the season itself. And with the baby, I genuinely thought one sister had twins. I just wished they would have a full-circle moment as well. Perhaps showing a flashback from when they first met and how they are now, or seeing them read each other's writings. I think that would have been touching 🤍
@@Coco-s1d7uI know! By the time the last scene came around, I had already skipped so many scenes cause I was not feeling anything this season, which I never did the previous seasons. Then we see three babies and a happy family and I felt NOTHING
I didn’t even believe Penelope would have a child this season. I mean she’s the same age as Eloise and now she’s a mother. So weird and not satisfying considering her interests this season
@@ahmudbrr4940 everyone’s entitled to their opinion. but the “lust” comment…i’m sorry but who doesn’t want to jump their SO’s bones (unless you’re asexual)?!? that doesn’t invalidate their love lol. and an actor can’t have chemistry with themselves or a wall, both actors need to jive well in order to make it work. so say what you will but both actors did amazing work to make that couple what it is.
@@MUSIC3190 A show peaking in the FIRST season is NOT a good thing lmao. But also, because of season 2, we got season 3 and a whole ass spin off (which is where it actually peaked) sooo
it is exactly from the books. but i want to explain it from the show: pen felt really devastated about her future (she was already "the laughingstock of the ton" as she said and now they publicly shamed her for asking colin's help), she thought no one would want to marry her anymore. i mean, the men in ep3 made fun of her at that evening, so she was right, she didn't know debling was interested in her at that point. her being such a hopeless situation - living under her mom's roof with her bully sisters without any prospects in her third year on the marriage mart - dealing with more gossip that SHE HAD TO write about herself...she was on the edge. pen, loving the thought of love itself, thought she'll never experience a thing like a kiss. she felt so vulnerable in that scene, could only open herself to her closest friend, colin. she could not hide her thoughts anymore, she said what she felt. she asked colin, as her best friend to be merciful and give her a kiss. she didn't want it, because she wanted colin to feel more towards her, no. she wanted a kiss, because she really had that on her mind, she will never have one...so sad. it is the irony of the situation that pen thought colin did it out of pity and she felt uncomfortable in the end by it, while colin's world changed in 180 degrees and finally started to acknowledge his long time feelings for her after that pivotal moment.
Things I would add that would fix Bridgerton season 3 (even tho I ate it up): - In the scene where he’s in his study and the candlelight starts to burn out, add flashbacks of season 1 and 2 to show he’s always loved her but never realised it - A scene of Penelope reading Colin’s manuscript and giving editing advice so the betrayal on Colin’s part really sinks in. Like you were out here giving me writing advice and never once during that did you consider telling me why you share my passion for writing? Might as well call me an idiot while you at it. - After the scene where he fetches a pillow and blanket from their bedroom, they should’ve shown him unable to sleep on the chaise lounge. Then we see him sneak into the bedroom, sneak onto the bed and wrap his arm around her waist. This shows that, while he’s still trying to sort out his whole feelings on the matter, he still loves her, he still wants to be near her and he doesn’t want her to be alone on their wedding night. Yes, he still slept on the chaise lounge in front of their room to be near her, but do you think a general audience will get that on their first watch? And it’s just a cute trope, idk 🤷🏾♀️ a man who can’t keep himself away from you even when he’s mad at you is cute to me. - The confession that he gives her at the butterfly ball should’ve been placed in the scene when Penelope is speaking to Colin in the study during Fran’s wedding. Instead of him saying he doesn’t know why he can’t let go of the whole LW thing, we have him confess his envy of her there and then. His “I love you with everything I am, everything I’ve been and everything I hope to be” speech from the book should be at the butterfly ball instead. - Benedict’s bi arc should’ve started in ep 5 and not ep 6/7. It would’ve felt more poignant if they had given it more time to develop. - When Colin, Benedict and John were at Will’s bar closure, and Benedict was talking about how he felt he had no purpose, I would’ve had Colin immediately clock that and ask Benedict what was going on as soon as Will and John were out of earshot. Colin was the only one who clocked that something deeper was going on with Eloise and was the only one who asked her what exactly was up as soon as he did, so it only makes sense that he did the same with Benedict. Also, it kinda shows the audience that Colin and Benedict have now switched places. In season 2, it was Colin without a purpose and Benedict had his art. In season 3, Colin now has a purpose in life with his writing, and because Benedict has given up on art, he has no purpose anymore. Colin knows where he’s been, he would’ve been the perfect person to give Benedict advice.
But otherwise, I really loved his confession at the end of the season, it might actually be one of my favourites Bridgerton speeches because it really was tailored to her and spoke of someone who admired her and her resilience, I just wanted it to come earlier in the episode. Also, don’t come for me but I don’t really get the hype around the “bane of my existence, object of all my desires” speech because it spoke of sexual desire/lust and not love to me, I much prefer Anthony’s speech in s2 ep 8.
aww colin sneaking into their bedroom, wrapping his arms around her (maybe a little kiss on her cheek) and being able to finally sleep with pen on his side 😭 i love this idea so much!! oh we were ROBBED!
Agree with all this! Just want to add though that Luke Thompson has confirmed that Ben is pansexual, not bi. Although, like you said had they given more time to cook that it'd have been more obvious to the audiences.
Honestly nothing is ever gonna touch Anthony's season i swear i was really excited for this season they even said that penelope would have a lot of suitors and will not be made fun of but that literally did not happen she forgives Colin in 5 minutes like seriously bruh what were they thinking and Francesca was not done justice with her scenes. I have to say i loved their glow up for colin and Penelope but the way everyhing was just so messed up it was infuriating
Season 1 is soooo great beautifully written … something that comes close is Queen Charlotte … for me season 3 is sooooo bad very bad too much was going on
i so badly wish we saw a good ending for cressida i don’t even dislike her anymore now that i understand her situation i feel like they really could’ve given her a good solution to the situation
They almost ruined pen's character with the whistledown arch. The whole point of whistledown being pen was that she was so ignored in society that people didn't acknowledge her presence and she could hear their gossips, publish them, and still no one suspected her. Not that people would confid in her (seeing her as a friend) with their secrets and then she goes ahead and writes about them to ruin them in society's eyes, like what she did to Eloise or Thompson. I hate how her character is written in the show. She's portraied almost as bad a Cressida is written in books, using her platform for her own greed. Which is why I don't understand why every other character is getting a redemption arch except her. They all suck in the show anyway
all seasons of bridgerton had an iconic monologue between both the characters which all the angst throughout the season had led up to. however there was no particular scene that sticked out to me the way the other seasons did. It was just lackluster. I wish they showed little moments between Polin more.
i think it’s because they left out one of his best monologue’s from the books, “i love you with everything i am, everything i’ve been, and everything i hope to be.” why they chose not to include this ill never understand 😭
@@netflixpartyy they fumbled in almost all aspects for me. Like don't even start me on the writing cause it infuriated me but what was even up with the make up team? The lash extensions and fake nails? The heave ass breathing? The god awful camera work? Even the green screens this season took me out like I couldn't take that balloon scene seriously for the life of me, what was the reason for that plot? It impacted exactly zero characters. Much like the whole of season 3😂
I actually like that Eloise wasn't just morphed into this perfect feminist. I feel like in future seasons they could explore her 'hypocrisies' that she is so obviously blind to. Maybe in a future season she'll be forced to do something in the name of her values instead of just preaching them to the masses. I love her. And I find her not doing a a 180 to be very realistic and full of potential storytelling and character developing. OH- I also hope that her being a bad friend towards Cressida at the end of the season will come back and bite her in the butt just for the sake of character development.
As Eloise lover and someone that shares her dislike of marriage, I think it's understandable for her to hate the entire thing to the point of "preaching" when nobody listens to her. If anything, the frustration has piled up and as an ace, it's so annoying to always tell people I just am not looking for any romantic partners and certainly never want to have children. there's so many things to criticize with the institution of marriage (or assumption of romantic love as the only greatest love) and telling that to people could make you be seen as irrational or radical. But yeah, definitely hope there would be more progress to Eloise for her to see things rather than berating other women for internalizing the expectations of them being wives and mothers to be women's essence. I havent seen the part 2 and I'm afraid I wouldnt want to see them. I'm so appalled with them going back to Cressida as well, she's really villain when there's complexity in her they allowed in season 3 and how the society and patriarchal expectations affected her to the point in previous seasons she's willing to tear down other women. it's like they keep undoing the things they did. John and Francesca- nope, love has to be dramatic. Cressida to be not just "bish" and how society turned her into one--nope she's just bish.
i fully agree with everything you said. this season was boring. i wish they waited to release the polin story, we could’ve had all the gossip from Whistledown and we could’ve continued guessing who it was. What could they do now? Where could they take this for an interesting drama?
Such a good point, I wonder what the drama of the future seasons will be without the LW storyline. Though a part of me also hopes that with all the Whistledown stuff finally resolved, future seasons will be able to focus a lot more on their respective main characters and romances.
Honestly the thing that pissed me off the most with season 3 was how they COMPLETELY killed Benedict's art arc? He finished last season still studying the arts - literally 0 mention of that. His painting which was his passion for 2 seasons is never once brought up in season 3. Even when he's talking to the widow + the other dude at dinner; the dude asks Benedict what he likes to do (even giving painting as an option) and Benedict doesn't even have a line saying ANYTHING about it. Not even an "Oh I used to". Just genuinely upset me how they never referenced it.
Season 1 did a much better job of the friends to lovers trope, which is insane. I literally skipped through Benedict’s entire storyline, and I’m not sorry for it. Also, something about how everything was resolved and the season ended with a neat little bow on top made me feel some type of way. It didn’t really feel earned, and there was no payoff.
Agree w/ everything you said about Cressida & Eloise! I thought Eloise reading Jane Austen’s Emma in ep1 was a hint we’d get the ‘mean girl turned nice’ trope with Cressida, but instead Eloise threw her under the bus in part 2 😐
Yup and we as the audience are supposed to be down for her season😂🎉 Congrats 🎉🍾 This has been a lesson on how to chuck character development out the window in one episode or less. That scene straight up put El back on the path of her selfishness again. She just used Cressida when she had no one as an ear piece until she moved on enough to take Pen back in.
I feel like we're forgetting Philippa and Prudence (Penelope's sisters). I found them so funny and for me they carried this season. Also them with their husbands was hilarious.
Netflix could've removed the th**some scenes and give us more Polin scenes or even a Lady Danbury flashback because WHO WAS SHE GOING TO ESCAPE WITH the night before her wedding??? 🥺🥺🥺
i got upset at the Francesca part bcs it kinda showed that there was love that wasn't like others (sexual/intense romantic and grand etc) but there could also be innocent, awkward pure and cute . and i do think thats important to show , since most ppl chose that dramatic love and it was just nice to have that
Nicola Coughlan shone this season, you can tell that she and Luke really like and respect each other. Also, she's 37, yet can convincingly play a teenager.
idk how eloise can be so selfish and tone deaf when penelope told her that everyone can't be a briderton and most people dont have the freedom that she has. like penelope told her that in the first season. also, i love a lavender marriage.
Came to add that I would’ve never had her reveal herself as Lady Whistledown to the whole ton: Firstly, it shows lack of consequence, we’ve heard them hating on LW (but also eating it up, I’ll admit). It doesn’t make sense for the people to be so nonchalant about a reveal this big, this woman was airing out their dirty laundry for years. Never made sense in the book to me why they cared about Lady Whistledown so much since she did nothing of consequence in the books but at least it makes sense that they would be nonchalant. I would’ve instead had her request a private audience with the Queen. Then had Colin walk in with her in the castle, hand in hand, showing that he’ll always be by her side like he promised. He lets go of the hand, she steps forward “into the light” like the episode title, this stepping away from Colin is showing her true confidence, she’s independent, she can do this on her own. She says all the things she said in front of the ton, but instead now it is just to the Queen. Queen Charlotte looks impressed that a 20 year old girl managed to pull all this off, she reminds her of her younger self. The queen requests an alliance between the Crown and Lady Whistledown, Penelope accepts. Penelope walks to Colin, Colin gives his love declaration like he does at the butterfly ball and they walk out the castle. The Queen calls off the bounty and at the same time, Lady Whistledown announces her new alliance with the Queen, and Pen’s still allowed to remain anonymous, but now the ton is even more scared of Lady Whistledown since she’s working with the Queen, like they won’t even be tempted to test her.
That wouldve been a nicer sequence of events, but then her outing herself as Whistledown to the public enabled her mother to say that they got their wealth from Pen's earnings as Whistledown instead of from Cousin Jack so that that accounting guy hounding Lady Featherington could stop
You explained it perfectly! We needed more episodes of Colin giving Pen lessons and see how he handles and helps her when she gets anxious about the Whistledown mess. There was such a potential for romance and it was not expanded on at all. We for sure needed more episodes if they wanted to also focus on other Bridgeton siblings
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As a plus size woman this season just felt like another slap to the face. Yes Nichola looked absolutely stunning, no doubt. But the story…. Once again it feels like we’re being over looked in favor of our thinner counterparts. Im too emotionally exhausted to go more into depth but thats the condensed version.
I’m really sorry to hear this. I definitely feel like they gave Francesca so much screen time because they didn’t feel like a plus size character could hold up on her own. It made no sense to pretty much have equivalent screen time to the main character and a full storyline as if it’s her own season. Even if it wasn’t completely intentional, that’s definitely how it came off. I feel like our society tends to cater more towards “conventionally attractive” people without even realizing 😭
you just broke down perfectly why i struggled so hard with this season. i'm not even a die hard polin fan but i wanted to root for them so badly, i think they did the actors so dirty. they spoke about so many scenes during screenings and press conferences that apparently didn't make the final cut (also i really need the deleted scene of those two idiots breaking furniture on set during sexy time, like they both set the chemistry was on fire for that take). i think they deserve soooo much better, because in the last episode you can see the chemistry between them, the love, the respect, the friendship we needed established SO much sooner to really enjoy them. they are really adorable and i wish we had gotten to see it more. also they literally didn't need a child that soon, that was so rushed. all the jokes at the end could've been easily done with auntie pen and uncle colin instead of them being parents. p.s. and with benedicts story i was also sooooo close to skipping, and i never do that, however boring. give me gay awakenings any day but wtf, why not do it in a more clever way.
Lady Whistledown's identity should've remained a secret until the end of the show. Too many people found out so you knew she would have to come clean. Her identity should've remained a mystery. I wasn't satisfied with the ending. So now Penelope is going to write gossip under her real name? How does that work? She'll have to tone it down or everyone will hate her. So the gossip won't be as salacious, and people won't be as interested in reading it.
i don’t get y they included them at all?? maybe the first scene of them finding out they’re titled now could be kept, but after they could’ve scrapped all their individual scenes and just had that family in the background or interacting with the bridgertons.
Honestly I was really disappointed in the second half of season 3. The love scene was soooo awkward and honestly I hated Benedict's storyline. Also, turning John's cousin into a woman, like... I was so looking forward to Francesca's love story with Michael and apparently we're gonna be robbed of that. The only part that I truly enjoyed and actually brought me the tears was Colin and Penelope's wedding, specifically the wedding vows. And Penelope looked stunning throughout the season. Still there are all these things that really bugged me and I'm not even sure I will want to watch future seasons of the show. By the way, I would really love a reaction on Maxton Hall. It became my favorite show of the moment ❤
I completely agree the love scene was SO awk 😭 I had to look away!! I think I’m going to give Francesca’s edition a read, I think I might not be as upset about the gender change because I’m not familiar with Michael’s original character.
I feel like saying “we’re going to be robbed” about the gender swap is kind of unfair because even though Michael is going be Michaela now that doesn’t mean they can’t have the same great love story they have in the books. I understand there was some infertility tied in with that relationship and while I do think that representation is important, it sucks to see that the one relationship in this show that is representing for lgbt people gets attacked so much. I can understand that people love that original storyline in the books but it’s one changed relationship out of 8. I wish people would be understanding for how much this representation means for young gay people.
@@ary550 I agree with you in that lgbt representation is important. I think that representation is equally as important for infertility struggles, especially in this era in which roe V wade, and women’s health care being taken away. I think Fran’s season could actually say something and bring to the forefront about infertility and women’s issues. I think it would be powerful because so many people watch bridgerton. Maybe having an lgbt character could potentially take away from that? Which is why a season like Benedict exploring bisexuality or maybe Eloise being part of the community would make lgbt conversations more impactful. I could see then depicting infertility in the lgbt community which is also important but I’m wondering if a dedicated season on the conversation might be more impactful. Regardless I’m excited to see where they take the show.
@@AthenaMews I totally agree and tbh I wish they had explored Eloise’s character instead of Fran’s as that makes more sense to me but the writers already took it in that direction and it is incredibly disheartening to see all hate and vitriolic comments people have been spewing. I hope they continue to explore infertility plot lines maybe with John and Fran or another female character entirely. Everyone can be represented and happy in this situation but the amount of homophobia I have seen directed towards this change is extremely disturbing. I really love the point you made about exploring women’s healthcare though, I do really wish more media talked about this issue.
Lol, I was thinking about their barely was any. I just wish that their first time was so different. When I think of Daphne and Simon, there was a little bit tension doing a Honeymoon, but then they proceeded, and they seem quite fond. But they seem like I don’t know it was just so rushed it was just like oh, well-….
i was kinda disapointed when they changed the gendre of micheal. i think only the people who read the books will get me. they changed way too many things and it just didn't fit well like s1 and S2. made me wish they didn't add_ delete any plot
@@katgreer6113 I think she was just flabbergasted by her like when you see an attractive person you always take a double look just to admire or praise them idk
My biggest issues with this season are exactly the same as yours 1. Not enough Polin scenes: Luke and Nicola do have fantastic chemistry, I don't deny that. Their first kiss was breathtaking, the carriage scene, speechless, but the fact they only had 40 MINUTES? when they're the lead couple of the season? As a friends to lover Polin fan, we needed much more scenes to see their characters build like they had in season 2 2. Hated benedicts storyline: it was a full on sex movie with EACH scene 3. Mondrich family storyline should have been cut out completely, every scene with them I forwarded, so annoying. They're storyline should've ended with the duke 4. Weirdly, I didn't like how much Francesca's story took soooo much time, she took more time away from Polin and this was there main season
NO i saw a reel where they gave a real numbers (stats caluculated) of the screen time of the main couples in their respective seasons. I think in season 1 daph & Simon had 92 mins of screen time together, Kate & Anthony had 86 mins and Pen & colin had 84/82 mins of screen time. I looks like they had less screen time because there was lot of side stories going on and so many new and extra characters and Unnecessary stories lines going on made it look that way.
You said it all!! Too much side plots, like I don’t care about the Mondrich’s and the Violet romance stuff. It was supposed to be Colin’s season and yet, it felt like I was watching “The Featherington’s” like okay I get it Penelope is the FL and all but we didn’t got to see character development from Colin. This man was getting me eye rolling. His character was completely useless in part 2. Also, where was the declaration? Cause, I feel like we didn’t had THE Bridgerton declaration we get each season. Daphne’s “I burn for you” and all, Anthony’s “You are the bane of my existence” even king George “I cannot breathe when you are not near” such quotes that are so poetic and romantic and those which make us enjoy the Bridgerton’s love declaration and want to watch them over and over again. I didn’t liked how the ton discovered LW identity at the ball. They all went alright you roasted so many of us during all these years but it’s over now, let’s go back to dancing? Didn’t made sense. Lacked of drama from my point of view. I didn’t got the chills from her speech at all. Polin couple was… disappointing. The chemistry was there but not explored enough!!! It could’ve been way much better. Like instead of doing a weird montage switching from a conversation to Benedict’s treesome we could’ve had a scene from their meeting on the horse Colin mentioned at their wedding. Like wtf ? The montage was sooo weird. Also, I feel like they just filled blanks at the montage with those threesome scenes. It was so unhinged and unnecessary. This season was having so much potential, just even from the point of view that Penelope was both LW and the FL. Could’ve added so much more tension and drama! I feel like they restrained themselves this season because we kind of all knew who Colin was gonna end up with. But it is not a reason! Also, them having a baby was out of nowhere. When I saw their tree heads I just bursted out laughing because the camera angle was just weird. There is even more I could talk about but I will just stop there… Conclusion, Bridgerton went from one of my favorite shows to a nightmare I can’t seem to forget. Thinking about the fact that to this time every Bridgerton season comes out every two years S4 should be around 2026. Until then, I don’t want to hear about Bridgerton.
With the whole Francesca story, the only reason why people are mad is yes the gender swap but also bc it ruins what the show has built. And plus, Francesca even told her mom that there are different types of love and not all have to be thrilling and fast paced. I loved her with John and she loved him, it states in the books. Though John has a cousin and ( spoiler alert ) his cousin thirsts after John’s wife which is her but John dies so the estate and whole thing goes to him because he’s a man. We’re in the 18th century still, the story stated clear that men get passed down homes, the money, everything of the last man. They switched it to a woman knowing that John will soon die bc this whole show is based on the books, the money, estate, cannot go to her bc she’s a woman, I mean why change it that if the featheringtons were going to lose their home/estate and wealth only because Sir featherington left and they don’t have a man in charge or any man to be the next featherington. The mondrich family, what was the point of that story of Mrs. Mondrich aunt died and having the estate passed down to her family bc she has sons, I mean what was the point of lady Danbury being in her spot today bc of her husband/son. You see, people like consistency, it’s not about being gay it’s more about the storyline. They showed us Francesca having a genuine connection with John and states in the books she’s always wanted to be a mom, she suffers with infertility and she’s mourned over John’s death. Though she does fall in love with his cousin and stays in the estate. Also, woman ( and in this show ) at those times we’re got shunned by society for being a rake, it’s known men do it but a ladies reputation is very important for the marriage views and all that, the show even states it, in the books John’s cousin is a rake, a man who sleeps with woman and is yk playboy kinda guy, since they gender swapped it, It contradicts everything that she has built, especially in season one when Anthony catches with the duke. Anthony forces, Daphne, and the Duke to marry because he has tainted Daphne. What was the point of gender shopping if in these times and in the show, women cannot be rakes and be mischievous. People are just upset that the show isn’t being constant and is twisting stories and revising them and not going along by the books, This is a fictional story, but it kind of discredits the author and what they have written.
Totally agree, not giving Cressida a redemption arc was one of my main disappointments. Like you make us sympathise* with her and her situation, she tries to change and then you banish sis as an ending :’). It was such a cop out. I wish that she at least escaped with the bounty money, before the Queen figured out she was fraudulent lmao and meeting Lord Debbling during her escape would’ve been epic!
I lover Bridgerton and I eat every season up but WAYYY too much was going on. I was low key disappointed pen didn’t hold a grudge against Colin longer bc he deserved it, and I feel like the way he suddenly fell head over heels for her was kind of unnatural. (In like 2 episodes) That’s why I think we need more episodes bc between all of the plot lines it almost felt like Pen and Colin weren’t the main couple. Nicola is stunning though!!
I don't care that Francesca got flustered by a woman. I'd be so happy to see a sapphic love story on Bridgerton but I think Francesca was the wrong character to do it with. They put so much screentime and effort into showing that John and her love was worthy and how not every love story has to look the same. What was the point of Violet admitting she was wrong to Francesca and validating their love and happiness together? Only to throw it away at the last second for quick tease for a future season. IMO it felt cheap, unearned, and antithetical to themes they were exploring with Francesca and John.
Lord Stirling was my fav character and they did him dirty at the end making Francesa fall in love with someone else. They were building up an interesting idea of love being comfortable/quiet rather than stereotypically brash showing some nuance, but did all that just to tear it all down. Justice for Lord Stirling.
also i think the show did a lot of gaslighting to colin to make it seem penelope's lies were justifiable rather than give them time to make amends naturally.
A problem I had is that with the previous seasons, the main couples were always at least a bit mindful of people seeing them together unchaperoned, but then we get the carriage scene without any of them saying sth like "we should not be doing this/we cannot be seen together/etc." Really pulled me out of the illusion
You literally took the words out of my mouth. I saw this season as a self-love story for Penelope, which is why I ended up liking it so much. In terms of the romance, I would say it did end up lacking and I get why that was frustrating for Polin stans. I went into this having solidified Kanthony as my favourite and because of that I think I was able to see the self-love angle they were coming from as I wasn't really looking to stan Polin but even having said that they really fumbled with the romance aspect of their story which sucked. You could tell with Colin's love confession at the end too that this season was really about Penelope and her growing into this more confident version of herself. Overall I enjoyed it but the romance really left me wanting more and if they cut some storylines and got into more of their romance I really think it would have been the best season yet because it really had all the qualities to be.
I think a lot of people were excited about Penelope having a love story because she's not the usual type that gets the guy in shows/movies. I think a lot of people could see themselves in her. She gets to be more than someone's best friend sidekick, which is normally what the "bigger" girl gets. I think it's kinda sad that she's the one that got the self-love plot instead of getting to be swept off her feet and pined after. Because to me, Colin never showed himself going after her and romancing her. Just mostly Whistledown drama
This whole season felt like they were just setting up for heaps of possible spin offs instead of actually just putting appropriate time into building the chemistry between Penelope and Collin. I felt they didn’t spend enough time showing me their connection being built which made me feel so weird when they were suddenly so in love 🤣 don’t get me wrong it was good but like you said, it could’ve been better if they had done more episodes and go into more detail!
I don't agree with you with the gender change of Francesca's other love interest just because she does remarry for kids that she unfortunately couldn't with John. If it weren't for that then I would have no problem because then her story would be about how to grieve as a woman. In her original story from what I ws told Michael was seriously pining over her when she was more than happily married and he had massive guilt about taking John's title and inheriting it all after he died. He felt even worse with still pining over Francesca. That seems like such a beautiful story and makes me wanna read the whole series. Also I hated the undermining of the quiet love. Honestly as a quiet love person, I hated it. Quiet love is only loud in weird specific moments and I really felt those when they were just on the couch or when he gave her the rewritten music, those were screaming moments to me.
My 1st thought after finishing this season was it is ridiculous for me to wait 2 years for the next. 8 episodes should've been 12. I completely agree about your analysis of Colin's character development. We understood Daphne, we understood Anthony... but I guess bc there is a reverse where Colin is the love interest and Penelope is the main. HOWEVER, we still saw flashbacks of Simon, learned about Kate through her mother and Edwina... I think because the writers introduced them 2 seasons ago, they figured we knew enough. There were a lot of great characters this season (Francesca, Cressida, etc) but Polin felt like an equal 10% plot and screentime to everyone else whereas in previous seasons it was more Daph/Sim 50%, Kanthony AT LEAST 30%! ALSO I WAS *WAITING* for the flashback of them meeting for the first time (made me think Danny + Riley from Baby Daddy).... but we didn't get it -_- CRESSIDA: I don't understand why they made us empathize with her and build an audience connection to her just to send her off in suffering! and WHERE THE HELL DID LORD DEBLING GO?!?!?!! I thought in part 1 it would be a bit of that cliche/ perfect tied-knots ending where everyone's with someone or happy but they literally made him disappear and screwed over Cressida. Lowkey Eloise wasn't a great friend to her either (falsely accusing her or exposing Polin, never listening, abandoning her...) and I was legit routing for Cressida by the end. she had her little moment in that red dress but why? P.S. Anthony's hilarious this season
idk I never liked Colin at all. Since season 1 he has been doing nothing except like dragging and friendzoning Penelope and he was not much better this season, especially when he was soooo pissed about the Lady Whistledown stuff I'm like bruh I know she has written some stuff but can you not be at least a little happy or even impressed that Penelope could do something like that? Penelope deserves better imo
I think what (normal) people are annoyed with in regards to Michael(a), John and Francesca is because it immediately turns a story about finding love again, into what seems to actually being in love with your husbands sibling the whole time (and most importantly, whatever love you have for your husband pales in comparison to his sibling). I think it was rather nice for Violet to allow that sometimes love can be quiet and it was undercut, less so by the lightning bolt meeting with Michaela and more so by the lackluster kiss with John. Suddenly, Francesca's surety becomes naivety and ignorance of her own heart and frankly the disparate attraction makes it seem there'll be no waffling about getting with Michaela once John drops dead
Bring back the old head of costuming and design. The last ball was tacky. The costumeing I am not someone who says you have to be historically accurate but all of that glitter cheap fabric so that you could save money was horrible. And if they spent more money on that on that cheap looking glitter fabric they were robbed! They spent too much time on side characters and didn't focus on Penelope and Colin. This thing of making Colin into a player didn't work! It worked with the Duke and it worked with Anthony because they were players from the very beginning. It was part of their character. Now I know they meant to show that Colin was trying to be who he thought society wanted him to be and he realized that it that it wasn't true and that he shouldn't be that. But in order to do that you actually have to spend time with him going through the realization. Also they just didn't spend enough time with Penelope and Colin. There should have been more time with him tutoring her. There should have been more time with him realizing how he felt about her instead of a couple of dreams! There should have been time of him groveling. Colin needed to grovel after what he did at the end of season 2. He is not stupid! He knows that saying to a bunch of eligible unmarried men in the Ton that he would never court Penelope is labeling her! There was just so much wrong! The clothes, the makeup, Penelope stuff was good but everybody else is pretty much sucked with rare exceptions. The balls were even ridiculous not beautiful at all like in previous seasons. I think this is another example of Netflix cutting the budget and telling them to produce the same results with little to no money to produce the same results. As far as costuming and makeup is concerned look at season 2. Season 2 was perfect! The amount of time you spent with the characters! The flashbacks letting you know why Anthony did not want to marry anyone who could love him. His trauma over his dad's death. Everything about season 2 including the pacing the pining and everything was perfect! You all just ruined Penelope's story! Oh this is bad very very bad. I hope they get their stuff together in time for season 4 because if they don't this is it for me it's not worth my time I will cancel my subscription. Nicola ( i hope i spelled it correctly) is beautiful. And I'm glad they did showcase that. It is great to see average size women glorified for their beauty. But she was always beautiful. They did they best in the first two seasons with horrible hair design on purpose and horrible clothing that didn't fit properly on purpose to not show how attractive she is. It worked. I thought for the most part her dresses were beautiful. They were dressed this that I would like to own. Except for the dress that she wore to the ball the first ball where she has transformed herself. I felt that dress was not enough not at all! Now the dress that she wore when she was walking or promenading with Colin oh I love that dress. And several of her other dresses are really pretty. But I expected more from a transformational point of view for the first reveal of her changing her clothing and everything.
Girl Cressida's story got me hooked, the poor girl was trying to escape martial rape and she tried to tell Eloise about it and the girl just joked about it and moved on! Elosie is just a feminist to herself and not to anyone else
I do love Colin and why many of us love him is because of Luke’s subtle acting. But do agree they did him dirty this season. Show wise, he wasn’t a player. In the books, his journals actually discussed his travels. The water, the beaches, the people he talked to. They did not need to make him a rake. Also, his characterization was demolished. It really felt like the writers did not care about him at all. Oh, ep. 6 was named after their book and Polin were barely even in it. The LW drama and the angst should have ended in that episode. They had conversations while they were processing this and had their happy moments. And the show did not focus on that. Ugh!
YOURE SO MEEE 😢 i was literally shipping Cressida and Eloise for the first half of the season, like, her book has one of the WORST love interests/plotlines, either bring back Theo or bring back Cressida for a full redemption arc!!
a few things i feel u messed up. Cresida took credit bc she thought it was the only way to lose ALL suitors. she was giving up and penelope said she made lady whistle down to give herself a voice. she says now she will be a voice for the voiceless
There is difference between adding diversity and assassinating the character. I felt both Francesca and Benedict was shown confused, underconfident and completely off key. Instead of showing artistic side of Benedict, all he is doing is appearing confused and sleeping with anyone who offered. Can't u show the strength and the depth of that brilliant actor Luke Thompson whos playing the role of Benedict. Not to mention, in the kissing scenes I found Penelope was adding more effort than colin. She was the one who was trying to create chemistry, colin was simply doing his duty. Lack of chemistry, lack of passion...even the witty single liners were missing this season.
Penelope was definition adding more effort in those kissing scenes. But maybe they were trying to go the route of her not being used to physical intimacy and overcompensating by literally gulping at Colin like a fish out of water; but even then, it never got better, so I’d say the former might be more accurate for what actually happened.
okay but the only story line i wanted to know about was ELOUSE AND THE PAPERBOY!!! and they didn’t show it!! i hope they bring them back in season 4, because that would be so messy because of the class system!
Im in a weird position where I saw and acknowledged the flaws/issues that many people pointed out with this season and for the most part their correct ( i dont care much about the costumes, not being accurate or too modern. Im here for the plot lol).however at the same time, I was satisfied with this season? Like is it the best season? Probably not. Could it have been better? Absolutely! But i can't say I WASN'T entertained 😂
I was so disappointed with how they ended Cressida's arc. She's painted as someone making desperate final acts in a horrible situation and the only person that shows even an inkling of sympathy is Colin during their conversation, but he never once proposes a way to help her. I think it's bizarre that Eloise, even as a former friend, didn't make any attempt to help her, and I was really hoping that Penelope would extend an olive branch and send Cressida the £5000 she had originally requested so she'd be able to move away on her own. Especially since Penelope makes a speech about doing things that hurt people when she felt powerless, which is exactly what Cressida was doing. I wonder if the writers thought that we'd be happy to see Cressida get some sort of comeuppance, but by the end I really just felt bad for her.
omg i hated bridgerton s3 sm 😭😭😭 like s1 and s2 were great but in s3, the makeup was too modern, the clothing fabric was cheap, and there were wayyy too many woke ideologies that came up throughout the season. (the whole threesome idea was unnecessary to the plot development.) not to mention the many unnecessary side plots that really led to nothing, and ended up making the series hard to follow.
What happened to Daphne helping Cressida find a match tho? Wasn’t that wat daphne offered in S1 to Cressida n order for her to keep what Cressida saw to herself?
I was def a Penelope anti fan before this and it took a minute but I came around on her slightly lol. But girl it’s killing me watching you pine for this boring man and write vicious stuff from the safety of anonymity
girl omg this is the REALEST review of this season that i've seen you just get it cause the shit i was reading on twitter i was like ????? there's no way we watched the same show
I believe Colin's attempts to find connection, meaning, and purpose, his class clown or hero personas, and his relationship issues all through the show are tied up in a kind of trauma reaction to losing his father and his mother's deep grief/depression at an impressionable age. These could all easily be explained as possible reactions to abandonment issues if the initial loss happened when he was old enough to remember but not enough to fix anything. Since he couldn't save his father or cure his mother's grief, the best he could do is entertain everyone and make them as safe and happy as possible with the tools available to a young boy. He may not have been able to progress past that until the family trauma had healed more through time passing and the eventual marriages of his older sister and brother (those relationships helped each sibling deal with their trauma, so they could be better help to Colin by example). It's obvious to me that Colin craves connection and commitment for roughly the same reason Anthony ran screaming from it for years. Because the tragic sudden loss of their father and their mother's extreme complicated grief took part of their childhood and made them all grow up too fast in some ways while stunting their development in others. Daphne and Anthony became de facto parents and head of household even while Daphne hadn't yet entered puberty and Anthony had only just reached his majority, years before either should have been expected to shoulder these burdens. Colin couldn't take on either role, so he became everyone's entertainment, their respite. But who comforts the comforting one? No one. Who respects the hard work behind entertaining everyone? No one. So he gave without anyone realizing how much he gave, worked for years with no one seeing that it was work. Emotional labour is a real thing deserving respect, but Colin and Benedict did so much of it while being passed by like wallpaper. It's frustrating.
I get how important representation is and I’m happy that we’ll be getting wlw for Francesca’s season… but damn I’m upset we won’t be having a Michael ☹️ He was my favorite in the books.
came here just to say girl i hope you watched/will watch queen charlotte because i just finished it after 2 days and i never finished the last episode of bridgerton season 3 because i was so fed up 💀 but queen charlotte is SOOOOoo good
Cressida pretending to be Lady Whistledown to get out of that horrible engagement was almost brilliant.
Easily the most interesting storyline this season! I was actually disappointed they resolved it so quickly 😭
@@netflixpartyy it was actually in the book too so pretty accurate in that front !
I almost rooted for her with that plan. She tried, I guess
@@netflixpartyyThey nipped it in the bud too quickly!
@@raquelleb.7863 in the book it's because her husband died and left her in debt.
I was so "???" about the Mondriches in part 1. Then when I started part 2, I thought "Oh! I get it, Will's struggle to give up the bar as a symbol for the security he built in exchange for the happiness of his new situation parallels Penelope being unable to give up Whistledown, which is how she had agency when she felt powerless."
AND THEN THEY DIDN'T PARALLEL IT AT ALLLLLL
EXACTLY
I didn't even care about the parallels. I was so bored with them from season 1😂
@@no.6377yep. They don’t even have a connection with ANY of the main cast. They spoke to Benedict once. He’s served them at the bar?? I mean does that count as a relationship? I don’t think my local barista is my friend so I doubt you think your bartender is your friend (I don’t drink!). If they made them friendly with SOMEONE more than a single convo it could’ve been interesting. Idk. I’d rather have Penelope and Francesca become friends than deal with this random family from season 1
@@saveme-j9p owning a gentleman’s club wasn’t even frowned upon back then the whole story was stupid. They are boring. Find a way to involve them in the plot or drop them. I’m holding out hope Simon returns in season 4 since he hasn’t had any success.
@@Zelda00Gamer they were supposed to be Simons friends but honestly they should've been written off when Rege Jean left the show. Maybe keep them for daphnie's sake in season 2 but this season? Completely unnecessary. Like be gone already.
The reason I was upset with Francesca's storyline is precisely because if I ever fall in love, I could see myself having the quiet sweet kind of love she did than the dramatic stories the other couples had. Not everyone finds or wants toxic, dramatic love. I adored her and John, they were the best part of Part 1 and most of part 2 for me. By hinting Francesca was attracted to Michela from the get-go, it negates her and John's story's core theme of appreciating the quiet love. She literally got married to John a few days ago and the way she reacted after their wedding kiss was so bad, she looked so disappointed. In the books, theres no doubt Francesca loved John romantically. She just discovers that love can be different with different people but that doesnt diminish what she and John had. Its a beautiful story of grief and second chances in a very mature way. Its horrible that they messed it up. Also hers is the only book I've read so this makes it double worse.
Yesss I was surprised to see the face she made at the wedding kiss because she did genuinely love John and was attracted to him! No idea why they changed it, I feel like it negates all the lessons she taught Violet about how even though she loves differently and less passionately it doesn’t make that love any less meaningful. As someone who more drawn to quiet types as well I really identified with that!
Agreed! It doesn’t matter man or woman, what matters is that now it looks like she’s not really in love with John when she is! Or at least was supposed to be ☹️
The new show runner identifies with Francesca and it clearly clouded her judgement this season and she also apparently has no idea what people might find attractive in a leading man since they butchered Colin’s character and made him such a substancesless idiot.
@@jeanetteking434she gay ofc she doesn't know what straight women want in a man 😂
@@jeanetteking434 Why did they get a new showrunner again? What was wrong with the one who did Season 1 and 2? Either way, after this disappointing season, it looks like it'll carry over to the new ones, I'm out. They always got to ruin a good thing with showrunners/directors' stupid vision or interpretation. *When you source from a book directly and not just inspired with a built-in fanbase, don't f*ck with the formula, you dumbasses. Sure -- tweak stuff to accommodate time, streaming constraints, but for the love of God, stop fucking with the actual PLOT LINES/ARC DEVELOPMENT!*
They did not put enough effort in season 3. The actors did well, but they didn’t have a lot to work with regarding their roles. The fact that people hate lady whistledown could’ve been seriously useful for the show instead of what we got
Facts! Apparently the original showrunner left, which is why it feels so different
@@netflixpartyyYou can definitely tell too. IMO most of the stories you see feel unfulfilled: Benedict’s lacked actual character development, Eloise backslides but isn’t called out on it, Pen self depreciates and undermines all the good Whistledown has done, Colin actually had character development but had out of character scenes, Kate actually had something interesting going on with her seeming to not want to end the honeymoon but they just chuck that conflict out the window?
Then there’s the dialogue. It’s like…where’s Pt. 1 writer at? Because none of the lines are hitting as heavy. This was just a mess, and that’s coming from someone that put much stock into a lot of peoples pt1 complaints
@@netflixpartyyyou can tell he left, all looks cheaper and tackier
@@illenagus the costumes were horrific. Hunger games and 2010’s makeup. I also hated Penelope’s 40’s hairstyle or whatever it was. Her dresses were beautiful at least
rip cressida cowper, you would’ve loved ChatGPT
LMAOOO
BYE
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LMFAOO
LMAO YES
the way kate and anthony had 2 minutes of screentime but still carried this season... their power
LMAOO anyways
No one is talking about them 😂. Please stop
@@lamoyadoeman 462 people beg to differ
i only watched their scenes😭
@@vaanyabedumb Yea we enjoyed their scenes but carrying the season nah. Just Kanthony stans clutching at straws 🤣
This season NEEDED flashbacks especially a flashback of Pen and Colin first meeting. They’re supposed to be childhood friends but we did not see any of the childhood😪
Yessssss!!!!!!
All the other seasons could stand alone, like we didn't need other seasons to understand who the main characters were. but for this season they were relying on everyone watching the other 2 seasons and expecting that to be enough build up😢 I don't know Colin at all or their connection. Flashbacks would have been wonderful!
I agree!!! The first time I watched Season 3 I was underwhelmed. UNTILLLLL, I rewatched season 1 and 2 focusing on Colin and Penelope and let me tell you... it made this season soooooo beautiful. I totally loved it. But I totally understand why others may feel otherwise 😊
this is a great point. I also think they focused way too much on everyone else and less on colin and pen which caused me to be less invested into their story. I feel as though i've learned more about the side character than the two main
Or the friends😭 it felt like they were just acquaintances who had spoken a lot to each other over the years, but nothing deep
someone really said “colin was looksmaxxing” and that really took me out 💀
That was a real s**t comment I don't get how people will fight to stop the bodyshaming of Penelope whilst dogging on Colin
@likhwezititus is not about the actor is about the personification of Colin's character, he looked out of Bridgerton
Is a shame because he was so charismatic the previous seasons, except the time he was talking about Pen (which he never apologizes for)
PLSSSS 😭😭😭
@@18Aleziita he literally apologized but mmkay "we need more complex characters" but can't handle Colin Bridgerton
@@18Aleziitathis! I really thought he was great in previous seasons and this time there was a big disconnect. He looked a part of the time period before, now he looks like he owns a smartphone..
Omg what annoyed me was eloise saying Cressida was doing it for attention
WHEN CRESSIDA LITERALLY TOLD HER WHAT WAS GOING ON AND SHE REFUSED TO HELP
Like wtf, were we not meant to feel bad for Cressida
omg yesss, I was so diappointed when Eloise ditched her (despite the fact that she knew Cressida wasn't the real lady Whistledown and only did it to get out of her horrible situation.. and when the sent her to live with her mean aunt in Wales, I was furious, like all of this redemption arc for what?????
exactly :/ eloise is veryyyy self-centred, i hope she changes at some point
And she is supposed to be a proto feminist like Yeah Tell me something more believable 😐
Also asking Penelope to cut out LW just because there is all about rumours when she never asked why Pen is so attached to that character, she never asked Pen about her family and is oblivious to all bullying she was receiving from her mom and sisters.
If they are going to the feminist route with Eloise she has to change 180 degrees
Yeah I'm baffled with how Cressida's story was handled in this season. Like they give her extremely sympathetic and understandable motivations. Everything she does is a desperate cry for help. She even begs for Eloise's help. No one listens or cares and the narrative treats her like a villain. It's so bizarre to me.
@@fionagallagherapologist5968 I love Eloise but wow that sucks. Idk what's going on with writers' room. The quality in this season is poor. They flesh out Cressida to be not just this cutout villain but ofc we were meant to see her as villain again it sucks. The same way people like the Francesca introverted love only to turn out to be like comphet lol
The breathing bothered me SO bad 😭
cause why are yall literally PANTING 😭
I literally thought I was the only one bothered by it 😭 It gave me such an ick. It’s so annoying!!!
Girl I thought I was the only one bothered by that
The hard breathing only suited Anthony and Kate
@@jobangharekhan2601not even they could save it😭
justice was not done to the polins. colin was boring, Penelope's only relationship that interested me was the one with Eloise (love their development this season)
Agree COMPLETELY 😭
im SO mad because they cut some of the best scenes that would’ve made polin season. like they literally cut a scene where polin was laying in bed and talking about publishing colins manuscript. (Edit: this has seemingly been debunked by Nicola)
@@netflixpartyy😢
AGREED. I was sitting there rolling my eyes each time polin got on the screen only because there was just nothing really gripping about their interactions for me 😔
FINALLY someone who agrees. Like it just was boring. Colon’s f-boy era was so unnecessary and cringe like stop??
I love Kanthony I hope they make a spinoff of their time in India
simone was asked in an interview that a lot of fans want to see more kanthony and she said that kanthony deserve a spin off!!! and that she would love to do it, we actually have hope!!! 🥹
I hate this relationship because of the show but reading the lovely it’s way better and they don’t play edwinsa like a dumb girl… she immediately knows that Kate loves Anthony and says okay…bye. So I like them because of the book kitty he show.
I would love a whole Sharma thing where we can see Edwina and her marriage as well
omg yessss that would be so cool, i do want a time skip tho so we can have them parenting and we can see the funny sassy kids we know they’re going to have
I would die for it
I don't like to be too critical when it comes to shows, unless it's a serious matter of disrespect or misrepresentation, I just think of the hard work and the time that was invested into the show. However, this season, specifically the ending, did not feel fulfilling for the characters. Daphne and Simon had that deep, intimate moment in the rain, followed by the birth of their baby. Simon and Kate had that BEAUTIFUL moment under the fireworks (still gives me chills), and we get a glimpse into their married life. It just made sense, Daphne and Simon having a baby and being content with that, and Anthony and Kate having a full-circle moment playing pall mall. This season, the ball was beautiful, but it didn't feel too intimate or special. Maybe it wasn't as impactful because the couple lacked scenes throughout the season itself. And with the baby, I genuinely thought one sister had twins. I just wished they would have a full-circle moment as well. Perhaps showing a flashback from when they first met and how they are now, or seeing them read each other's writings. I think that would have been touching 🤍
We really needed more scenes with them together!!
I swear to God that final scene with the babies I was just like "cmon, are we really doing this?". It just felt SO off
@@Coco-s1d7uI know! By the time the last scene came around, I had already skipped so many scenes cause I was not feeling anything this season, which I never did the previous seasons. Then we see three babies and a happy family and I felt NOTHING
I didn’t even believe Penelope would have a child this season. I mean she’s the same age as Eloise and now she’s a mother. So weird and not satisfying considering her interests this season
bridgerton really peaked with season two, i gotta say. ain’t nobody hit quite like kanthony hit.
Nah...it was too much lust. But the actor that did Anthony was good and did the most. The actress that played Kate could've done better in my opinion
@@ahmudbrr4940 everyone’s entitled to their opinion. but the “lust” comment…i’m sorry but who doesn’t want to jump their SO’s bones (unless you’re asexual)?!? that doesn’t invalidate their love lol. and an actor can’t have chemistry with themselves or a wall, both actors need to jive well in order to make it work. so say what you will but both actors did amazing work to make that couple what it is.
💯💯💯💯💯💯 Nothing has topped Anthony and Kate's chemistry and compatibility!
Bridgerton peaked with season 1. Hence why we got season 2. Let’s not forget.
@@MUSIC3190 A show peaking in the FIRST season is NOT a good thing lmao. But also, because of season 2, we got season 3 and a whole ass spin off (which is where it actually peaked) sooo
I’ve never watched Bridgeton but her begging him for a kiss is sendinG MEEEE WHAT
same LOL i wasnt expecting that
It was a part of the book
LMAOOO
it is exactly from the books. but i want to explain it from the show:
pen felt really devastated about her future (she was already "the laughingstock of the ton" as she said and now they publicly shamed her for asking colin's help), she thought no one would want to marry her anymore.
i mean, the men in ep3 made fun of her at that evening, so she was right, she didn't know debling was interested in her at that point.
her being such a hopeless situation - living under her mom's roof with her bully sisters without any prospects in her third year on the marriage mart - dealing with more gossip that SHE HAD TO write about herself...she was on the edge.
pen, loving the thought of love itself, thought she'll never experience a thing like a kiss. she felt so vulnerable in that scene, could only open herself to her closest friend, colin.
she could not hide her thoughts anymore, she said what she felt. she asked colin, as her best friend to be merciful and give her a kiss.
she didn't want it, because she wanted colin to feel more towards her, no. she wanted a kiss, because she really had that on her mind, she will never have one...so sad.
it is the irony of the situation that pen thought colin did it out of pity and she felt uncomfortable in the end by it, while colin's world changed in 180 degrees and finally started to acknowledge his long time feelings for her after that pivotal moment.
That part is from the books.
idk why cressida thought she could pretend to be lady whistledown when she probably hasn’t written more than 10 words at once in her entire life
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PLZ 😭 her mom kind of ate tho
@@netflixpartyy no fr cressidas mom was the only reason she could keep it up for more than 6 seconds LMAOOO
People would do a lot of things when they are desperate
it shows how desperate she was to not be married to some random man and live her own life !! i thought it was brilliant
Things I would add that would fix Bridgerton season 3 (even tho I ate it up):
- In the scene where he’s in his study and the candlelight starts to burn out, add flashbacks of season 1 and 2 to show he’s always loved her but never realised it
- A scene of Penelope reading Colin’s manuscript and giving editing advice so the betrayal on Colin’s part really sinks in. Like you were out here giving me writing advice and never once during that did you consider telling me why you share my passion for writing? Might as well call me an idiot while you at it.
- After the scene where he fetches a pillow and blanket from their bedroom, they should’ve shown him unable to sleep on the chaise lounge. Then we see him sneak into the bedroom, sneak onto the bed and wrap his arm around her waist. This shows that, while he’s still trying to sort out his whole feelings on the matter, he still loves her, he still wants to be near her and he doesn’t want her to be alone on their wedding night. Yes, he still slept on the chaise lounge in front of their room to be near her, but do you think a general audience will get that on their first watch? And it’s just a cute trope, idk 🤷🏾♀️ a man who can’t keep himself away from you even when he’s mad at you is cute to me.
- The confession that he gives her at the butterfly ball should’ve been placed in the scene when Penelope is speaking to Colin in the study during Fran’s wedding. Instead of him saying he doesn’t know why he can’t let go of the whole LW thing, we have him confess his envy of her there and then. His “I love you with everything I am, everything I’ve been and everything I hope to be” speech from the book should be at the butterfly ball instead.
- Benedict’s bi arc should’ve started in ep 5 and not ep 6/7. It would’ve felt more poignant if they had given it more time to develop.
- When Colin, Benedict and John were at Will’s bar closure, and Benedict was talking about how he felt he had no purpose, I would’ve had Colin immediately clock that and ask Benedict what was going on as soon as Will and John were out of earshot. Colin was the only one who clocked that something deeper was going on with Eloise and was the only one who asked her what exactly was up as soon as he did, so it only makes sense that he did the same with Benedict. Also, it kinda shows the audience that Colin and Benedict have now switched places. In season 2, it was Colin without a purpose and Benedict had his art. In season 3, Colin now has a purpose in life with his writing, and because Benedict has given up on art, he has no purpose anymore. Colin knows where he’s been, he would’ve been the perfect person to give Benedict advice.
But otherwise, I really loved his confession at the end of the season, it might actually be one of my favourites Bridgerton speeches because it really was tailored to her and spoke of someone who admired her and her resilience, I just wanted it to come earlier in the episode. Also, don’t come for me but I don’t really get the hype around the “bane of my existence, object of all my desires” speech because it spoke of sexual desire/lust and not love to me, I much prefer Anthony’s speech in s2 ep 8.
Ughhh you ate, these additions would’ve been so good!!
aww colin sneaking into their bedroom, wrapping his arms around her (maybe a little kiss on her cheek) and being able to finally sleep with pen on his side 😭 i love this idea so much!! oh we were ROBBED!
You ate this up bruh
Agree with all this! Just want to add though that Luke Thompson has confirmed that Ben is pansexual, not bi. Although, like you said had they given more time to cook that it'd have been more obvious to the audiences.
Honestly nothing is ever gonna touch Anthony's season i swear i was really excited for this season they even said that penelope would have a lot of suitors and will not be made fun of but that literally did not happen she forgives Colin in 5 minutes like seriously bruh what were they thinking and Francesca was not done justice with her scenes. I have to say i loved their glow up for colin and Penelope but the way everyhing was just so messed up it was infuriating
Never!!!❤
The curse of eight episode series💀
Season 1 is soooo great beautifully written … something that comes close is Queen Charlotte … for me season 3 is sooooo bad very bad too much was going on
So sad that we didn’t even see a wedding for Anthony and Kate or more promos
True no one can top Kanthony❤❤❤. Their chemistry is just something else
Every time Colin and Pen were on screen all I was focused on was her BREATHING like whyyy
Penelope's "heaving bosom" was a character all its own 😂😂
i so badly wish we saw a good ending for cressida i don’t even dislike her anymore now that i understand her situation i feel like they really could’ve given her a good solution to the situation
They almost ruined pen's character with the whistledown arch. The whole point of whistledown being pen was that she was so ignored in society that people didn't acknowledge her presence and she could hear their gossips, publish them, and still no one suspected her. Not that people would confid in her (seeing her as a friend) with their secrets and then she goes ahead and writes about them to ruin them in society's eyes, like what she did to Eloise or Thompson.
I hate how her character is written in the show. She's portraied almost as bad a Cressida is written in books, using her platform for her own greed. Which is why I don't understand why every other character is getting a redemption arch except her.
They all suck in the show anyway
She's not gone for good. She plays a part in benophies book!
all seasons of bridgerton had an iconic monologue between both the characters which all the angst throughout the season had led up to. however there was no particular scene that sticked out to me the way the other seasons did. It was just lackluster. I wish they showed little moments between Polin more.
i think it’s because they left out one of his best monologue’s from the books, “i love you with everything i am, everything i’ve been, and everything i hope to be.” why they chose not to include this ill never understand 😭
@@netflixpartyyomg that is adorable 😭 they really had to leave out the cute parts
I think the part where he admits he's jealous of her is supposed to be that impactful speech. It's a no for me.
@@netflixpartyy they fumbled in almost all aspects for me. Like don't even start me on the writing cause it infuriated me but what was even up with the make up team? The lash extensions and fake nails? The heave ass breathing? The god awful camera work? Even the green screens this season took me out like I couldn't take that balloon scene seriously for the life of me, what was the reason for that plot? It impacted exactly zero characters. Much like the whole of season 3😂
I actually like that Eloise wasn't just morphed into this perfect feminist. I feel like in future seasons they could explore her 'hypocrisies' that she is so obviously blind to. Maybe in a future season she'll be forced to do something in the name of her values instead of just preaching them to the masses. I love her. And I find her not doing a a 180 to be very realistic and full of potential storytelling and character developing. OH- I also hope that her being a bad friend towards Cressida at the end of the season will come back and bite her in the butt just for the sake of character development.
Oooo I do agree with this take!! I do really like her still (it’s hard not to) and I find myself excited for her season the most lately
As Eloise lover and someone that shares her dislike of marriage, I think it's understandable for her to hate the entire thing to the point of "preaching" when nobody listens to her. If anything, the frustration has piled up and as an ace, it's so annoying to always tell people I just am not looking for any romantic partners and certainly never want to have children. there's so many things to criticize with the institution of marriage (or assumption of romantic love as the only greatest love) and telling that to people could make you be seen as irrational or radical.
But yeah, definitely hope there would be more progress to Eloise for her to see things rather than berating other women for internalizing the expectations of them being wives and mothers to be women's essence. I havent seen the part 2 and I'm afraid I wouldnt want to see them. I'm so appalled with them going back to Cressida as well, she's really villain when there's complexity in her they allowed in season 3 and how the society and patriarchal expectations affected her to the point in previous seasons she's willing to tear down other women.
it's like they keep undoing the things they did.
John and Francesca- nope, love has to be dramatic. Cressida to be not just "bish" and how society turned her into one--nope she's just bish.
I agree there needed to be more episodes. WAY TOO MANY CHARACTERS/ SIDEPLOTS 😐😭
TOO MANYYYY
Colin needed to grovel more.. all the awful shit he said about pen.. she should have been yelling!
FR!!!
I mean Penelope should grovel too with the amount of shit she wrote about the bridgertons while visiting them and acting innocent
@@ccvv1119shut up
Penelope should’ve slapped Colin when he accused her of trapping him.
@@ccvv1119 Exactly. Thank you!!
i fully agree with everything you said. this season was boring. i wish they waited to release the polin story, we could’ve had all the gossip from Whistledown and we could’ve continued guessing who it was. What could they do now? Where could they take this for an interesting drama?
Such a good point, I wonder what the drama of the future seasons will be without the LW storyline. Though a part of me also hopes that with all the Whistledown stuff finally resolved, future seasons will be able to focus a lot more on their respective main characters and romances.
Honestly the thing that pissed me off the most with season 3 was how they COMPLETELY killed Benedict's art arc? He finished last season still studying the arts - literally 0 mention of that. His painting which was his passion for 2 seasons is never once brought up in season 3. Even when he's talking to the widow + the other dude at dinner; the dude asks Benedict what he likes to do (even giving painting as an option) and Benedict doesn't even have a line saying ANYTHING about it. Not even an "Oh I used to". Just genuinely upset me how they never referenced it.
Season 1 did a much better job of the friends to lovers trope, which is insane.
I literally skipped through Benedict’s entire storyline, and I’m not sorry for it.
Also, something about how everything was resolved and the season ended with a neat little bow on top made me feel some type of way. It didn’t really feel earned, and there was no payoff.
nah i was LIVING for violet × marcus ship arc this whole season like i was so invested in them. Its time for the queen to get her own man.
YESSS they were so cute!!
OMFGGG YOU REPLIED GIRLLL ILYSM 😭😭
Yes, time for her to get her garden watered 👀
Not a husband when George is still kicking
@@DA-yy8rswhat does George have to do with Violet and Marcus???
Agree w/ everything you said about Cressida & Eloise! I thought Eloise reading Jane Austen’s Emma in ep1 was a hint we’d get the ‘mean girl turned nice’ trope with Cressida, but instead Eloise threw her under the bus in part 2 😐
Omg I didn’t even notice that it was Emma!! They really should’ve just stuck to redeeming her character
Yup and we as the audience are supposed to be down for her season😂🎉 Congrats 🎉🍾
This has been a lesson on how to chuck character development out the window in one episode or less. That scene straight up put El back on the path of her selfishness again.
She just used Cressida when she had no one as an ear piece until she moved on enough to take Pen back in.
Goes to show how little they care about historical accuracy as Emma was not published until they year after this show was supposed to be set.
I feel like we're forgetting Philippa and Prudence (Penelope's sisters). I found them so funny and for me they carried this season. Also them with their husbands was hilarious.
Finally someone talking about Penelope’s heavy breathing!! lol I thought I was the only one who was slightly irritated at it
Netflix could've removed the th**some scenes and give us more Polin scenes or even a Lady Danbury flashback because WHO WAS SHE GOING TO ESCAPE WITH the night before her wedding??? 🥺🥺🥺
i got upset at the Francesca part bcs it kinda showed that there was love that wasn't like others (sexual/intense romantic and grand etc) but there could also be innocent, awkward pure and cute . and i do think thats important to show , since most ppl chose that dramatic love and it was just nice to have that
Nicola Coughlan shone this season, you can tell that she and Luke really like and respect each other. Also, she's 37, yet can convincingly play a teenager.
She is so stunning 🥹
37? HUH?
@@zemaraluciousclaudia jessie is 34 and she’s also convincingly playing teenager eloise…
@@whoisagniia omg genetics slay
thirty SEVEN???????????
idk how eloise can be so selfish and tone deaf when penelope told her that everyone can't be a briderton and most people dont have the freedom that she has. like penelope told her that in the first season. also, i love a lavender marriage.
exactly!! shows that she didn’t even take that argument to heart and actually reflect on it 😭
@@netflixpartyy omg, hey baddest!
Honestly, it’s the season everyone was waiting for. Also, mad props to Nicola Coughlan for being practically perfect in every way ❤
Love her so much 🥹🩷
Nicola is that girl
Yup. Love her down.
Came to add that I would’ve never had her reveal herself as Lady Whistledown to the whole ton: Firstly, it shows lack of consequence, we’ve heard them hating on LW (but also eating it up, I’ll admit). It doesn’t make sense for the people to be so nonchalant about a reveal this big, this woman was airing out their dirty laundry for years. Never made sense in the book to me why they cared about Lady Whistledown so much since she did nothing of consequence in the books but at least it makes sense that they would be nonchalant.
I would’ve instead had her request a private audience with the Queen. Then had Colin walk in with her in the castle, hand in hand, showing that he’ll always be by her side like he promised. He lets go of the hand, she steps forward “into the light” like the episode title, this stepping away from Colin is showing her true confidence, she’s independent, she can do this on her own. She says all the things she said in front of the ton, but instead now it is just to the Queen. Queen Charlotte looks impressed that a 20 year old girl managed to pull all this off, she reminds her of her younger self. The queen requests an alliance between the Crown and Lady Whistledown, Penelope accepts. Penelope walks to Colin, Colin gives his love declaration like he does at the butterfly ball and they walk out the castle. The Queen calls off the bounty and at the same time, Lady Whistledown announces her new alliance with the Queen, and Pen’s still allowed to remain anonymous, but now the ton is even more scared of Lady Whistledown since she’s working with the Queen, like they won’t even be tempted to test her.
That wouldve been a nicer sequence of events, but then her outing herself as Whistledown to the public enabled her mother to say that they got their wealth from Pen's earnings as Whistledown instead of from Cousin Jack so that that accounting guy hounding Lady Featherington could stop
You explained it perfectly! We needed more episodes of Colin giving Pen lessons and see how he handles and helps her when she gets anxious about the Whistledown mess. There was such a potential for romance and it was not expanded on at all. We for sure needed more episodes if they wanted to also focus on other Bridgeton siblings
Omg gabi got it, I didn't even realize ....yeahhh this season was about loving yourself, not the love relationship itself 😭
omg that makes so much more sense
Yeah, exactly. They said it would be the season for the wallflowers
I DO NOT THINK U UNDERSTAND HOW INCREDIBLE U ARE, i have been scouring the internet for commentary youtubers but all of them yap too much, u talk the perfect amount and when u do talk ur actually funny. thank you 😭😭😭
thank you this means a lot 🥹🩷
frrrr
As a plus size woman this season just felt like another slap to the face. Yes Nichola looked absolutely stunning, no doubt. But the story…. Once again it feels like we’re being over looked in favor of our thinner counterparts.
Im too emotionally exhausted to go more into depth but thats the condensed version.
I’m really sorry to hear this. I definitely feel like they gave Francesca so much screen time because they didn’t feel like a plus size character could hold up on her own. It made no sense to pretty much have equivalent screen time to the main character and a full storyline as if it’s her own season. Even if it wasn’t completely intentional, that’s definitely how it came off. I feel like our society tends to cater more towards “conventionally attractive” people without even realizing 😭
Queen Charlotte 🤝 The Audience here
“We must entrap the scribbler.”
you just broke down perfectly why i struggled so hard with this season. i'm not even a die hard polin fan but i wanted to root for them so badly, i think they did the actors so dirty. they spoke about so many scenes during screenings and press conferences that apparently didn't make the final cut (also i really need the deleted scene of those two idiots breaking furniture on set during sexy time, like they both set the chemistry was on fire for that take). i think they deserve soooo much better, because in the last episode you can see the chemistry between them, the love, the respect, the friendship we needed established SO much sooner to really enjoy them. they are really adorable and i wish we had gotten to see it more. also they literally didn't need a child that soon, that was so rushed. all the jokes at the end could've been easily done with auntie pen and uncle colin instead of them being parents.
p.s. and with benedicts story i was also sooooo close to skipping, and i never do that, however boring. give me gay awakenings any day but wtf, why not do it in a more clever way.
Lady Whistledown's identity should've remained a secret until the end of the show. Too many people found out so you knew she would have to come clean. Her identity should've remained a mystery. I wasn't satisfied with the ending. So now Penelope is going to write gossip under her real name? How does that work? She'll have to tone it down or everyone will hate her. So the gossip won't be as salacious, and people won't be as interested in reading it.
Every time I seen the Mondrich’s I just fast forward… literally I could care less about that mans club frr😭😭
i don’t get y they included them at all?? maybe the first scene of them finding out they’re titled now could be kept, but after they could’ve scrapped all their individual scenes and just had that family in the background or interacting with the bridgertons.
Their arc didn't even go anywhere, why do they exist💀
True😂
They just take away from the story and add nothing to it.
Honestly I was really disappointed in the second half of season 3. The love scene was soooo awkward and honestly I hated Benedict's storyline. Also, turning John's cousin into a woman, like... I was so looking forward to Francesca's love story with Michael and apparently we're gonna be robbed of that. The only part that I truly enjoyed and actually brought me the tears was Colin and Penelope's wedding, specifically the wedding vows. And Penelope looked stunning throughout the season. Still there are all these things that really bugged me and I'm not even sure I will want to watch future seasons of the show.
By the way, I would really love a reaction on Maxton Hall. It became my favorite show of the moment ❤
I completely agree the love scene was SO awk 😭 I had to look away!! I think I’m going to give Francesca’s edition a read, I think I might not be as upset about the gender change because I’m not familiar with Michael’s original character.
I feel like saying “we’re going to be robbed” about the gender swap is kind of unfair because even though Michael is going be Michaela now that doesn’t mean they can’t have the same great love story they have in the books. I understand there was some infertility tied in with that relationship and while I do think that representation is important, it sucks to see that the one relationship in this show that is representing for lgbt people gets attacked so much. I can understand that people love that original storyline in the books but it’s one changed relationship out of 8. I wish people would be understanding for how much this representation means for young gay people.
I liked that it was awkward bc it’s Pen’s first time and they had been friends before. Your first time can be awkward sometimes
@@ary550 I agree with you in that lgbt representation is important. I think that representation is equally as important for infertility struggles, especially in this era in which roe V wade, and women’s health care being taken away. I think Fran’s season could actually say something and bring to the forefront about infertility and women’s issues. I think it would be powerful because so many people watch bridgerton. Maybe having an lgbt character could potentially take away from that? Which is why a season like Benedict exploring bisexuality or maybe Eloise being part of the community would make lgbt conversations more impactful. I could see then depicting infertility in the lgbt community which is also important but I’m wondering if a dedicated season on the conversation might be more impactful. Regardless I’m excited to see where they take the show.
@@AthenaMews I totally agree and tbh I wish they had explored Eloise’s character instead of Fran’s as that makes more sense to me but the writers already took it in that direction and it is incredibly disheartening to see all hate and vitriolic comments people have been spewing. I hope they continue to explore infertility plot lines maybe with John and Fran or another female character entirely. Everyone can be represented and happy in this situation but the amount of homophobia I have seen directed towards this change is extremely disturbing. I really love the point you made about exploring women’s healthcare though, I do really wish more media talked about this issue.
HELP I WAS LITERALLY HOPING AND PRAYING YOU'D DO A WATCH PARTY ON THIS 😭😭🙏🏽🙏🏽
YAYYYY
Why is no-one talking about the sex scene? I felt so disgusted they just did it on a sofa and after that they were like "well,it was nice. Bye bye!"
Lol, I was thinking about their barely was any. I just wish that their first time was so different. When I think of Daphne and Simon, there was a little bit tension doing a Honeymoon, but then they proceeded, and they seem quite fond. But they seem like I don’t know it was just so rushed it was just like oh, well-….
the thing that explains it all to me is that this season has a new showrunner than seasons 1 and 2...and you can soooo tell.
i was kinda disapointed when they changed the gendre of micheal. i think only the people who read the books will get me. they changed way too many things and it just didn't fit well like s1 and S2. made me wish they didn't add_ delete any plot
no but why did she just fall for her husband's cousin in five seconds? that's my problem.
@@katgreer6113 true, im so done with this series. i guess i will rewatch S1 and S2 and being delulu
@@katgreer6113 I think she was just flabbergasted by her like when you see an attractive person you always take a double look just to admire or praise them idk
Cressida Cowper they can never make me hate you
She was so much fun 😭
My biggest issues with this season are exactly the same as yours
1. Not enough Polin scenes: Luke and Nicola do have fantastic chemistry, I don't deny that. Their first kiss was breathtaking, the carriage scene, speechless, but the fact they only had 40 MINUTES? when they're the lead couple of the season? As a friends to lover Polin fan, we needed much more scenes to see their characters build like they had in season 2
2. Hated benedicts storyline: it was a full on sex movie with EACH scene
3. Mondrich family storyline should have been cut out completely, every scene with them I forwarded, so annoying. They're storyline should've ended with the duke
4. Weirdly, I didn't like how much Francesca's story took soooo much time, she took more time away from Polin and this was there main season
NO i saw a reel where they gave a real numbers (stats caluculated) of the screen time of the main couples in their respective seasons. I think in season 1 daph & Simon had 92 mins of screen time together, Kate & Anthony had 86 mins and Pen & colin had 84/82 mins of screen time. I looks like they had less screen time because there was lot of side stories going on and so many new and extra characters and Unnecessary stories lines going on made it look that way.
You said it all!!
Too much side plots, like I don’t care about the Mondrich’s and the Violet romance stuff. It was supposed to be Colin’s season and yet, it felt like I was watching “The Featherington’s” like okay I get it Penelope is the FL and all but we didn’t got to see character development from Colin. This man was getting me eye rolling. His character was completely useless in part 2. Also, where was the declaration? Cause, I feel like we didn’t had THE Bridgerton declaration we get each season. Daphne’s “I burn for you” and all, Anthony’s “You are the bane of my existence” even king George “I cannot breathe when you are not near” such quotes that are so poetic and romantic and those which make us enjoy the Bridgerton’s love declaration and want to watch them over and over again.
I didn’t liked how the ton discovered LW identity at the ball. They all went alright you roasted so many of us during all these years but it’s over now, let’s go back to dancing? Didn’t made sense. Lacked of drama from my point of view. I didn’t got the chills from her speech at all.
Polin couple was… disappointing. The chemistry was there but not explored enough!!! It could’ve been way much better. Like instead of doing a weird montage switching from a conversation to Benedict’s treesome we could’ve had a scene from their meeting on the horse Colin mentioned at their wedding. Like wtf ? The montage was sooo weird. Also, I feel like they just filled blanks at the montage with those threesome scenes. It was so unhinged and unnecessary. This season was having so much potential, just even from the point of view that Penelope was both LW and the FL. Could’ve added so much more tension and drama! I feel like they restrained themselves this season because we kind of all knew who Colin was gonna end up with. But it is not a reason! Also, them having a baby was out of nowhere. When I saw their tree heads I just bursted out laughing because the camera angle was just weird. There is even more I could talk about but I will just stop there… Conclusion, Bridgerton went from one of my favorite shows to a nightmare I can’t seem to forget.
Thinking about the fact that to this time every Bridgerton season comes out every two years S4 should be around 2026. Until then, I don’t want to hear about Bridgerton.
Something about the babies at the end made me roll my eyes 🤣
"I don't know where that man went" LOL for reeaaaal where did Debling go
He travelled
The mondrich and benedict storylines should have been dropped
With the whole Francesca story, the only reason why people are mad is yes the gender swap but also bc it ruins what the show has built. And plus, Francesca even told her mom that there are different types of love and not all have to be thrilling and fast paced. I loved her with John and she loved him, it states in the books. Though John has a cousin and ( spoiler alert ) his cousin thirsts after John’s wife which is her but John dies so the estate and whole thing goes to him because he’s a man. We’re in the 18th century still, the story stated clear that men get passed down homes, the money, everything of the last man. They switched it to a woman knowing that John will soon die bc this whole show is based on the books, the money, estate, cannot go to her bc she’s a woman, I mean why change it that if the featheringtons were going to lose their home/estate and wealth only because Sir featherington left and they don’t have a man in charge or any man to be the next featherington. The mondrich family, what was the point of that story of Mrs. Mondrich aunt died and having the estate passed down to her family bc she has sons, I mean what was the point of lady Danbury being in her spot today bc of her husband/son. You see, people like consistency, it’s not about being gay it’s more about the storyline. They showed us Francesca having a genuine connection with John and states in the books she’s always wanted to be a mom, she suffers with infertility and she’s mourned over John’s death. Though she does fall in love with his cousin and stays in the estate. Also, woman ( and in this show ) at those times we’re got shunned by society for being a rake, it’s known men do it but a ladies reputation is very important for the marriage views and all that, the show even states it, in the books John’s cousin is a rake, a man who sleeps with woman and is yk playboy kinda guy, since they gender swapped it, It contradicts everything that she has built, especially in season one when Anthony catches with the duke. Anthony forces, Daphne, and the Duke to marry because he has tainted Daphne. What was the point of gender shopping if in these times and in the show, women cannot be rakes and be mischievous.
People are just upset that the show isn’t being constant and is twisting stories and revising them and not going along by the books, This is a fictional story, but it kind of discredits the author and what they have written.
Exactly!
Totally agree, not giving Cressida a redemption arc was one of my main disappointments. Like you make us sympathise* with her and her situation, she tries to change and then you banish sis as an ending :’). It was such a cop out. I wish that she at least escaped with the bounty money, before the Queen figured out she was fraudulent lmao and meeting Lord Debbling during her escape would’ve been epic!
I lover Bridgerton and I eat every season up but WAYYY too much was going on. I was low key disappointed pen didn’t hold a grudge against Colin longer bc he deserved it, and I feel like the way he suddenly fell head over heels for her was kind of unnatural. (In like 2 episodes) That’s why I think we need more episodes bc between all of the plot lines it almost felt like Pen and Colin weren’t the main couple. Nicola is stunning though!!
Pen was breathing so hard cuz they kept getting her into dresses 3 sizes too small 😞
I don't care that Francesca got flustered by a woman. I'd be so happy to see a sapphic love story on Bridgerton but I think Francesca was the wrong character to do it with. They put so much screentime and effort into showing that John and her love was worthy and how not every love story has to look the same. What was the point of Violet admitting she was wrong to Francesca and validating their love and happiness together? Only to throw it away at the last second for quick tease for a future season. IMO it felt cheap, unearned, and antithetical to themes they were exploring with Francesca and John.
Lord Stirling was my fav character and they did him dirty at the end making Francesa fall in love with someone else. They were building up an interesting idea of love being comfortable/quiet rather than stereotypically brash showing some nuance, but did all that just to tear it all down. Justice for Lord Stirling.
also i think the show did a lot of gaslighting to colin to make it seem penelope's lies were justifiable rather than give them time to make amends naturally.
@@diddo9338 Exactly, agree 100%
Justice for Michael who has been written out of his own story. Why not make Cressida the gay story and leave Michael alone.
A problem I had is that with the previous seasons, the main couples were always at least a bit mindful of people seeing them together unchaperoned, but then we get the carriage scene without any of them saying sth like "we should not be doing this/we cannot be seen together/etc." Really pulled me out of the illusion
You literally took the words out of my mouth. I saw this season as a self-love story for Penelope, which is why I ended up liking it so much. In terms of the romance, I would say it did end up lacking and I get why that was frustrating for Polin stans. I went into this having solidified Kanthony as my favourite and because of that I think I was able to see the self-love angle they were coming from as I wasn't really looking to stan Polin but even having said that they really fumbled with the romance aspect of their story which sucked. You could tell with Colin's love confession at the end too that this season was really about Penelope and her growing into this more confident version of herself. Overall I enjoyed it but the romance really left me wanting more and if they cut some storylines and got into more of their romance I really think it would have been the best season yet because it really had all the qualities to be.
I think a lot of people were excited about Penelope having a love story because she's not the usual type that gets the guy in shows/movies. I think a lot of people could see themselves in her. She gets to be more than someone's best friend sidekick, which is normally what the "bigger" girl gets. I think it's kinda sad that she's the one that got the self-love plot instead of getting to be swept off her feet and pined after. Because to me, Colin never showed himself going after her and romancing her. Just mostly Whistledown drama
A 33 minute video on Bridgerton?! 😍 ahhh I'm so excited!
thank youuu 🥹🩷
@netflixpartyy Of course! I loved and disliked this season (benedict, Michael... I mean Michaela, and the take away from Polin) 😪 But I loved the rest
I was just about to fall asleep and now I can’t😔
HAHA sorry!!
This whole season felt like they were just setting up for heaps of possible spin offs instead of actually just putting appropriate time into building the chemistry between Penelope and Collin. I felt they didn’t spend enough time showing me their connection being built which made me feel so weird when they were suddenly so in love 🤣 don’t get me wrong it was good but like you said, it could’ve been better if they had done more episodes and go into more detail!
I don't agree with you with the gender change of Francesca's other love interest just because she does remarry for kids that she unfortunately couldn't with John. If it weren't for that then I would have no problem because then her story would be about how to grieve as a woman. In her original story from what I ws told Michael was seriously pining over her when she was more than happily married and he had massive guilt about taking John's title and inheriting it all after he died. He felt even worse with still pining over Francesca. That seems like such a beautiful story and makes me wanna read the whole series.
Also I hated the undermining of the quiet love. Honestly as a quiet love person, I hated it. Quiet love is only loud in weird specific moments and I really felt those when they were just on the couch or when he gave her the rewritten music, those were screaming moments to me.
My 1st thought after finishing this season was it is ridiculous for me to wait 2 years for the next. 8 episodes should've been 12.
I completely agree about your analysis of Colin's character development. We understood Daphne, we understood Anthony... but I guess bc there is a reverse where Colin is the love interest and Penelope is the main. HOWEVER, we still saw flashbacks of Simon, learned about Kate through her mother and Edwina... I think because the writers introduced them 2 seasons ago, they figured we knew enough. There were a lot of great characters this season (Francesca, Cressida, etc) but Polin felt like an equal 10% plot and screentime to everyone else whereas in previous seasons it was more Daph/Sim 50%, Kanthony AT LEAST 30%!
ALSO I WAS *WAITING* for the flashback of them meeting for the first time (made me think Danny + Riley from Baby Daddy).... but we didn't get it -_-
CRESSIDA: I don't understand why they made us empathize with her and build an audience connection to her just to send her off in suffering! and WHERE THE HELL DID LORD DEBLING GO?!?!?!! I thought in part 1 it would be a bit of that cliche/ perfect tied-knots ending where everyone's with someone or happy but they literally made him disappear and screwed over Cressida. Lowkey Eloise wasn't a great friend to her either (falsely accusing her or exposing Polin, never listening, abandoning her...) and I was legit routing for Cressida by the end. she had her little moment in that red dress but why?
P.S. Anthony's hilarious this season
idk I never liked Colin at all. Since season 1 he has been doing nothing except like dragging and friendzoning Penelope and he was not much better this season, especially when he was soooo pissed about the Lady Whistledown stuff I'm like bruh I know she has written some stuff but can you not be at least a little happy or even impressed that Penelope could do something like that? Penelope deserves better imo
I think what (normal) people are annoyed with in regards to Michael(a), John and Francesca is because it immediately turns a story about finding love again, into what seems to actually being in love with your husbands sibling the whole time (and most importantly, whatever love you have for your husband pales in comparison to his sibling). I think it was rather nice for Violet to allow that sometimes love can be quiet and it was undercut, less so by the lightning bolt meeting with Michaela and more so by the lackluster kiss with John. Suddenly, Francesca's surety becomes naivety and ignorance of her own heart and frankly the disparate attraction makes it seem there'll be no waffling about getting with Michaela once John drops dead
@@TheSpindlecat I do agree, I honestly think that male or female they shouldn’t have introduced Michaela at all this season!!
im still not over the fact Edwina wasnt in this season i love her so muchh 😭😭
Bring back the old head of costuming and design. The last ball was tacky. The costumeing I am not someone who says you have to be historically accurate but all of that glitter cheap fabric so that you could save money was horrible. And if they spent more money on that on that cheap looking glitter fabric they were robbed! They spent too much time on side characters and didn't focus on Penelope and Colin. This thing of making Colin into a player didn't work! It worked with the Duke and it worked with Anthony because they were players from the very beginning. It was part of their character. Now I know they meant to show that Colin was trying to be who he thought society wanted him to be and he realized that it that it wasn't true and that he shouldn't be that. But in order to do that you actually have to spend time with him going through the realization. Also they just didn't spend enough time with Penelope and Colin. There should have been more time with him tutoring her. There should have been more time with him realizing how he felt about her instead of a couple of dreams! There should have been time of him groveling. Colin needed to grovel after what he did at the end of season 2. He is not stupid! He knows that saying to a bunch of eligible unmarried men in the Ton that he would never court Penelope is labeling her! There was just so much wrong! The clothes, the makeup, Penelope stuff was good but everybody else is pretty much sucked with rare exceptions. The balls were even ridiculous not beautiful at all like in previous seasons. I think this is another example of Netflix cutting the budget and telling them to produce the same results with little to no money to produce the same results. As far as costuming and makeup is concerned look at season 2. Season 2 was perfect! The amount of time you spent with the characters! The flashbacks letting you know why Anthony did not want to marry anyone who could love him. His trauma over his dad's death. Everything about season 2 including the pacing the pining and everything was perfect! You all just ruined Penelope's story! Oh this is bad very very bad. I hope they get their stuff together in time for season 4 because if they don't this is it for me it's not worth my time I will cancel my subscription.
Nicola ( i hope i spelled it correctly) is beautiful. And I'm glad they did showcase that. It is great to see average size women glorified for their beauty. But she was always beautiful. They did they best in the first two seasons with horrible hair design on purpose and horrible clothing that didn't fit properly on purpose to not show how attractive she is. It worked. I thought for the most part her dresses were beautiful. They were dressed this that I would like to own. Except for the dress that she wore to the ball the first ball where she has transformed herself. I felt that dress was not enough not at all! Now the dress that she wore when she was walking or promenading with Colin oh I love that dress. And several of her other dresses are really pretty. But I expected more from a transformational point of view for the first reveal of her changing her clothing and everything.
Girl Cressida's story got me hooked, the poor girl was trying to escape martial rape and she tried to tell Eloise about it and the girl just joked about it and moved on! Elosie is just a feminist to herself and not to anyone else
I do love Colin and why many of us love him is because of Luke’s subtle acting.
But do agree they did him dirty this season. Show wise, he wasn’t a player. In the books, his journals actually discussed his travels. The water, the beaches, the people he talked to. They did not need to make him a rake.
Also, his characterization was demolished. It really felt like the writers did not care about him at all.
Oh, ep. 6 was named after their book and Polin were barely even in it. The LW drama and the angst should have ended in that episode.
They had conversations while they were processing this and had their happy moments. And the show did not focus on that. Ugh!
24:08 Does anybody else get Chloe From Miraculous vibes with Cressida? Being redeemed just to be a scapegoat???
This season was boring, tbh
Part one was so hard to get into and I wasn’t excited for the second part at all 😭
Idc idc fran and michaela are gonna slay i was FEIGNING for a sapphic romance in bridgerton for a WHILE. After Eloise and Cressida I NEED IT
YOURE SO MEEE 😢 i was literally shipping Cressida and Eloise for the first half of the season, like, her book has one of the WORST love interests/plotlines, either bring back Theo or bring back Cressida for a full redemption arc!!
@@y2kayh I WAS LIVING FOR CRESOISE
a few things i feel u messed up. Cresida took credit bc she thought it was the only way to lose ALL suitors. she was giving up and penelope said she made lady whistle down to give herself a voice. she says now she will be a voice for the voiceless
thank you! 🩷
The way I want to see Netflix Party say that Polin CARRIED when they show that carriage scene 😂
Ekhane??
@@randomlyswatching9481 Hyaan ekhane!
I'm sorry, season 3 was bad 😭😭 I don't think I'm even excited for the next season anymore
I hated that they set up a beautiful quiet love only to burn it to the ground in the last 10 minutes. Completely removing all agency from Francesca.
We ended up hating Eloise and loving Cressida like wtf Netflix did a terrible job with season 3
There is difference between adding diversity and assassinating the character. I felt both Francesca and Benedict was shown confused, underconfident and completely off key. Instead of showing artistic side of Benedict, all he is doing is appearing confused and sleeping with anyone who offered. Can't u show the strength and the depth of that brilliant actor Luke Thompson whos playing the role of Benedict. Not to mention, in the kissing scenes I found Penelope was adding more effort than colin. She was the one who was trying to create chemistry, colin was simply doing his duty. Lack of chemistry, lack of passion...even the witty single liners were missing this season.
Completely agree! Such a waste of Benedict’s character. Apparently the next season is his so I’m hoping they do him justice
Penelope was definition adding more effort in those kissing scenes. But maybe they were trying to go the route of her not being used to physical intimacy and overcompensating by literally gulping at Colin like a fish out of water; but even then, it never got better, so I’d say the former might be more accurate for what actually happened.
okay but the only story line i wanted to know about was ELOUSE AND THE PAPERBOY!!! and they didn’t show it!! i hope they bring them back in season 4, because that would be so messy because of the class system!
Im in a weird position where I saw and acknowledged the flaws/issues that many people pointed out with this season and for the most part their correct ( i dont care much about the costumes, not being accurate or too modern. Im here for the plot lol).however at the same time, I was satisfied with this season?
Like is it the best season? Probably not. Could it have been better? Absolutely! But i can't say I WASN'T entertained 😂
Agreed, I think satisfied is a great way to put it!!
Penelope is like the Bridgerton version of an internet troll... all trash talk, no actual backbone. And Collin is just icky.
I was so disappointed with how they ended Cressida's arc. She's painted as someone making desperate final acts in a horrible situation and the only person that shows even an inkling of sympathy is Colin during their conversation, but he never once proposes a way to help her. I think it's bizarre that Eloise, even as a former friend, didn't make any attempt to help her, and I was really hoping that Penelope would extend an olive branch and send Cressida the £5000 she had originally requested so she'd be able to move away on her own. Especially since Penelope makes a speech about doing things that hurt people when she felt powerless, which is exactly what Cressida was doing. I wonder if the writers thought that we'd be happy to see Cressida get some sort of comeuppance, but by the end I really just felt bad for her.
All I’m gonna say is that the actors ate, the writers didn’t.
omg i hated bridgerton s3 sm 😭😭😭
like s1 and s2 were great but in s3, the makeup was too modern, the clothing fabric was cheap, and there were wayyy too many woke ideologies that came up throughout the season. (the whole threesome idea was unnecessary to the plot development.) not to mention the many unnecessary side plots that really led to nothing, and ended up making the series hard to follow.
What happened to Daphne helping Cressida find a match tho? Wasn’t that wat daphne offered in S1 to Cressida n order for her to keep what Cressida saw to herself?
U could tell this season had a different show runner than the other 2
Somethjng jjst felt off
cressida’s writing was very much giving chloe from miraculous ladybug
That's exactly what i was thinking
Wtf was this season
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I was def a Penelope anti fan before this and it took a minute but I came around on her slightly lol. But girl it’s killing me watching you pine for this boring man and write vicious stuff from the safety of anonymity
girl omg this is the REALEST review of this season that i've seen you just get it cause the shit i was reading on twitter i was like ????? there's no way we watched the same show
I believe Colin's attempts to find connection, meaning, and purpose, his class clown or hero personas, and his relationship issues all through the show are tied up in a kind of trauma reaction to losing his father and his mother's deep grief/depression at an impressionable age. These could all easily be explained as possible reactions to abandonment issues if the initial loss happened when he was old enough to remember but not enough to fix anything. Since he couldn't save his father or cure his mother's grief, the best he could do is entertain everyone and make them as safe and happy as possible with the tools available to a young boy. He may not have been able to progress past that until the family trauma had healed more through time passing and the eventual marriages of his older sister and brother (those relationships helped each sibling deal with their trauma, so they could be better help to Colin by example). It's obvious to me that Colin craves connection and commitment for roughly the same reason Anthony ran screaming from it for years. Because the tragic sudden loss of their father and their mother's extreme complicated grief took part of their childhood and made them all grow up too fast in some ways while stunting their development in others. Daphne and Anthony became de facto parents and head of household even while Daphne hadn't yet entered puberty and Anthony had only just reached his majority, years before either should have been expected to shoulder these burdens. Colin couldn't take on either role, so he became everyone's entertainment, their respite. But who comforts the comforting one? No one. Who respects the hard work behind entertaining everyone? No one. So he gave without anyone realizing how much he gave, worked for years with no one seeing that it was work. Emotional labour is a real thing deserving respect, but Colin and Benedict did so much of it while being passed by like wallpaper. It's frustrating.
real ones came from fable 🙏 ty for uploading queen
omggg thank you!!!
I was also rooting for Lord Deblin.....was actually disappointed she ended up with Colin...
I get how important representation is and I’m happy that we’ll be getting wlw for Francesca’s season… but damn I’m upset we won’t be having a Michael ☹️ He was my favorite in the books.
came here just to say girl i hope you watched/will watch queen charlotte because i just finished it after 2 days and i never finished the last episode of bridgerton season 3 because i was so fed up 💀 but queen charlotte is SOOOOoo good